Warframe: This Has Been A Long Time Coming! The New Relic Meta
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How will you choose to open your cabbage?
With four kids breaking the cart
by destroying all of them for more ease
So I’m always short of Axi which is a pain so ied love for them to drop from a slightly wider selection of missions would be great but that’s a different matter as for leaching personally I’m always worried about been the weak link in a team, I never want to be that guy! but I know a lot of people aren’t bothered by that stigma.
As for how I will be doing it once the new mission comes I can honestly say nothing much will change I’ll just be doing the opening on a new title I just hope people don’t get carried away as it’s always a pain having to tell the team to slow down so we get the 10 shards before completing the mission (I doubt I’m the only one that’s ran into them types of pug were everyone is 8/10 when the mission ends because the team was killing too fast).
With a nice sharp knife :D
The konosuba way, with Steal! Sorry it was too easy :D
QOL next step is Filter for vaulted and no vaulted relic
This would be amazing to have. Already annoying enough that you can't switch tabs on the relics in missions.
OH MY GOD YES.
Wait this is actually amazing lol please implement this
Honestly a bud n me were talking about this they should remove all the primes that have a base version on the star chart from excal to saryin maybe nidus Mesa and atlas and do a steel path mission starting at like 500 or 1000 for the bosses for each respective frame minus excal prime but have those high level missions be how players get the older prime entirely an just get rid of the relics for those primes so they can cycle in newer primes in the prime vault so we can have a bit different variety in varzia an maybe player could get the prime necromec skin that came with nidus
@@tigersnight1559this idea makes absolutely no sense
but how does this affect the harrow chassis blueprint economy
Asking the real questions
It's gonna enhance it at first, as everyone will get double the amount of Harrow chassis BP, but eventually, that'll cause even more inflation and destroy the system.
Stonks, baby!
lmao currently sitting at 24 of them in my inventory
@@bleachedink only 24? Lol
With how much Steve is talking about Infested Liches to tease Rebb, it's obvious we'll be getting more railjack content with that as those two systems are pretty much in union with each other. So when Infested Liches drop, new proximas and other RJ stuff will as well.
That's what I'm thinking too, Steve has been teasing infested liches since the first devshort.
He could also be trolling big time haha
And the next DevStream has been teased to be a bigger one, partially due to it being live from Pax East, so I'm expecting the reveal to be then!
Hopefully they add some infested RJ parts, like infested guns, engines, etc.
@@zooky515the ship IS ALIVE! AHHHHHHHH
@@zooky515 Don't forget, maybe even Sentient parts. (Hopefully.)
rebbeca was an amazing community manager, she gets warframe and the game absolutely wouldn't be successful without her, and now as creative director she just keeps implementing banger after banger updates
That's also because she plays the game extensively, with max MR and all that. She gets warframe because she is one of us
@@alexandrecosta2567 oh but it takes a special kind of person to be able to identify what needs to be done
Most players have absolutely no idea what they are talking about when it comes to fixes for the game
@@zennim125 "They should just rebuild the whole game"
lmfao
@@alexandrecosta2567 Steve tested the game, Rebecca plays the game. I don't think Steve ever did one of the hard grinds like a f2p player would. Rebecca was right there with us escorting the slow ass drones in plague star. So yeah, spot on.
I want a type of mission where you can open multiple relics at once. I'm pretty sure I have literally thousands of relics, and I just want to be able to open like 10 at once or something...
Definitely. I'm getting far more relics than I can open and I'd like to open more of them per mission/round
So a cabbage buffet.
I hope for this but i hope they add it behind some sort of challenge i.e the longer you go in a survival or defense, the more u can open or something
Relics allways were "eras" basicly of time or something and comming up that omni fissure is a thing really shows that laboratory, zeriman and lua are timeless places. Imagine going back in time to see starting point of infested bioweapon or having missions while Orokin were on their Prime.
Man, I just *wish* the Void becomes relevant in the way you mention
Someday...
Build on the Lua spy time travel vaults.
agreed, killing those Orokin would be fun too.
Corrupted rework when lol. But imagine them having angel-like metallic skin instead of a gold filter over the top
Kept hearing omni-fisher missions and was preparing my fishing spear…
Fisure
Fissure
This is so great, can we all just celebrate how great this team is that work on warframe?
FACTSSS THOO
The QoL updates have been pretty amazing.
All hail space mom
You do realize that this changes absolutely nothing right...
@@UnusualDeathCauseElaborate, please. How does this change which changes the game "Change absolutely nothing"? And please be specific, don't just say "Work it out" or "It's obvious"
I have sooooo many Radiant Lith relics from running Elite Sanctuary Onslaught having another place to burn through them would be nice. Especially since even Steel Path Lith is pretty dull.
How good the Omni-fissure missions are would depend on what type of missions they're going to be (sounds like they're going to be endurance runs), because for opening fissures running capture or exterminate missions is still way better and faster for fissures, especially if running solo...
I've found running railjack skirmish missions with a 3 or 4 stack is the fastest way. Once you get the dome charges up, you can finish a mission in 3 minutes with almost no load time between missions. Plus you get railjack rewards for extra Plat, tough to beat.
who in their right mind run solo relics
@@dengar96 This man knows what's up. Fly ship, spam missile barrage, frag the core, Profit.
I'm sorry but if you're running Relics solo you're doing it wrong lol, you're missing out on so much possible loot. As annoying as some rando's can be, more chances of a gold piece are always worth it.
@@ColonelRosa People who just need the damn Void Traces
I already foresee radshares staying at prime release, axis and possibly neos being used in their respective runs and omnis being a bunch of liths and mesos.
I can't even imagine running out of relics lmao I have like 5 years of relics that I've been saving 😅 I liked the old school T1 -T4 void days
What we hope: Void Cascade Omnia
What we may end up with: Void Armageddon Omnia
You made me actually recoil at that thought
Why would I do that when I could do 2-3 capture missions instead?
Void Armageddon is a cool idea but holy hell they need to either make some type of multiplayer lobby and separate solo lobbies with multiplayer ones or shorten the gap between going from one exo damper to the next. Maybe make it like MVM where there's a path the enemies use and the exo dampers are in that path
So be it
@@uxtalzon exactly! Like a minute and a half each run. A minute if we didnt have to wait on the relic opening screen
Frankly from doing the Fortuna and Cetus rep grind, I have a backlog of Axi relics so damn full it's bigger than the rest of my relic piles combined....I'll gladly let people leech off that :P
Frankly i fucking love being the captain of my Railjack while playing sea shanties but my god the bugs on those ventures are more dangerous than the call of any siren ever, I simply wish that they get it stabilized a bit more for now at least
I run a lot of railjack, and I barely find any major bugs nowadays. Might be the PTSD from launch, but I think it's pretty good at the moment.
I hope they rework the kuva liches/ Sister of parvos just a little bit
Definitely this, give us the liches that were promised in the original trailers (something like an escalating series of railjack missions moving from underling to underling before facing the lich in a climactic battle)
The current farm murmur, stab system is so boring and ring dependent
Exactly and also do something about them being converted as well so they aren't just defenders on railjack. They need work
For sure, you have to farm quite a few relics, then you crack these relics for a random chance of droping the mods you need, then you have to find the right combination of mods, each mistake making the Lich much stronger (this one is kinda cool), then you can finally kill or convert.
I find the Relic/RNG aspect so unecessary, especially the relic part, feels like they added Kuva relics and fissures just so the Kuva Fortress would have an use outside of farming for Harrow and never touching it again after lol.
I feel like a point system like Kela de Thaym would be much better, yeah, Liches would be much easier to acquire, but there's a lot of RNG already (progenitor bonus percentage, ephemera, name, personality, etc) that i believe it wouldn't devalue the system too much.
I would also make them a "proper boss fight", after getting x number of points to challenge your Lich, you go to an Arena, alone, to fight him for the first time, he's super strong, the arena could have some debuffs or hazards, so it would be easier to get and fight a Lich, but the fight itself would be much harder, then it continues as always, if you die Lich get's even stronger, if you defeat him, he flees to Railjack, or they could flip it around, you fight him in Railjack first, then he get's to the Arena and that's the proper battle where you can kill or convert it.
The problem is, the theme of the game is power fantasy, and everyone deemed a lich killing us isn’t worthy enough. Lichs in this game is a theme clash.
@@Wheniwasyoung15nobody would touch the lich/sister system if that were the case. People already complain it takes too long to do them and that they force them to do railjack. They just need to reduce the murmur grind for Liches in particular, sisters are fine as is. I'm saying that as someone who had 30 Liches under my belt before the QOL rework.
I mean I'm probably gonna be doing a lot of the Lilith relics when a Lilth mission isn't on rotation as i just have so many hundreds of them.
What I've wanted for fissures more than anything is the ability to choose the mission type I want to run, I often don't see the game modes I want to be playing on rotation at all.
They could give Loki a skill similar to a reverse Nyx's Chaos, that makes the enemies see Loki like one of them and so not attack him.
Isnt that the same as invisibility?
@@Metal_Sign-Friday_Patchouli mechanically would be similar, but could be other advantages
@@rafaelbrisolara7599 oh I think I get what you’re saying. Make him become a target for enemy faction buffs like Shield Osprey?
That's a real nice blue energy colour on your Voruna
I imagine that Lith, Mesa and Neo will be used a lot, with axi being a lot rarer. I would probably only take axi into axi fissures to share with others, but have enough of the other three that i'd be happy with sharing with others.
I haven't seen a leech but I have seen the 2 volts that speeds everyone up to the point enemies stop spawning and the reactant is all the way in the starting area which the volts had no problem getting.
While they are at exit waiting to extract even if the rest of the team is still looking for the remaining reactant they caused the rest of the group to miss.
I have that happen like 30 times to the point if I see a signal volt in a void fissure I am leaving.
But... why? What's the point of making the reward pool smaller? They do it just for shits and giggles?
@@Szujhinzu 99% chance they don't do it on purpose, they simply don't even think to consider that everyone else might not have 10 reactant once they do.
OK
this is so huge, i have been waiting for this to finally get back on the grind
Funny thing is I got a screenshot of getting all 4 players having a Wukong Prime part, Neuro, Systems, Chassis, Chassis, gotta love that wukong had all parts on the same relic tier. This was a couple years back.
as vet player i really love the small stuff that they added
Best thing to ever happen to Warframe is that Space Mommy took her rightful place as our overlord! All hail Space Mommy!
Bruh
@@Justice_XI Couldn't be me going this crazy for Lotus.
@@ron9558 He's referencing Becca, right?
Space Mommy is best Mommy.
@@hagelmannenI mean, Lotus, but also Rebecca is the voice of Lotus. So, yes? And no?
So how you introduced it made me think that I could open multiple relics at once, something I desparately need with over 200 spare relics to crack and increasing (Something that would take over half a day to do at full efficiency) In reality, this doesn't seem like it'll change much for me. Maybe if I wanted to crack an Axi I'd take the Omnia fissure, but I fail to see how this would impact me.
It does kind of impede casual prime farming, where you're not looking for radshares or having your own co-ordinated group online, you could still run your relics and with the narrow band of a 4x fissure there'd be decent odds of someone else running the thing you want to.
For just getting void traces or popping forma its cool, but its one of those diluted loot pool systems for actually chasing specific primes.
The leech thing is kind of silly, you already put your Axi in to a public mission. The other guys relic has no bearing on your decision to crack that particular relic or odds getting anything out of it. Other then them running the same one as you, theres effectively no difference in what relic they run.
The difference would be if the other people are running more refined relics which is their choice so it's not like they're being exploited in the way tacticalpotato makes it sound.
Now that I think about it. I have never seen any fissure mission in Void Cascade
That's because de it's terrible at integrating new content into the existing game. Hence why people often complain about updates being content islands.
I honestly think as long as they make it so it can be only a certain type of mission it'll be super good for the 6 health of the game. Like I'll still run exterminations for the quick grind, and maybe even survival for the multi-grind. But if the omni is something I guess like point capture or mobile defense where it keeps moving and is also survival I'll have to think about it, which overall wouldn't be bad it'd give variety and incentive I think
Was lowkey excited that we were going to see the old key system be brought into the mix of things so that people wouldnt have to worry about running out of a specific relic they want to grind.
Gives me a chance for random things I don't have while also farming void traces for whatever I want to focus down.
Glad I've stayed subbed to you; this QoL change is amazing, but I haven't played in so long I forgot how beautiful the game is. And when did we get a book weapon?!
I woudn't mind omni fissures being the only fissures in the game. It would make it easier on the UI since we already have so many nodes and would make it so you good to have a less deliuded playerbase.
I can't believe this is the video that got me into Ambre Jaune.
I don't have to worry about leeches as much at all since I either solo or run with friends. Although I will say when I ran a good bout of public run I only had one host migration, but we got right back in the game. Everybody else was about getting it done thankfully
My main joy out of this is that I'll be able to do fissures on more interesting gamemodes like Alchemy or Void Flood
I don't really run relics too often, I kind of just constantly have relics sense I use the syndicates to just mass buy relic packs. Most of the time I doo relic openings I do it with friends so its 100% win for me since often they'll run out of relics half-way through the grind.
Those changes looks nice. But the only thing I want right now is Kullervo's 1 fixed. When I use it, my camera goes nuts.
Pretty good way to farm a specific set (all 4 pieces at the sale time)
Man I miss tower keys
*i'm really just hoping for, stalker mode or something similar will be coming soon.
*i don't know, maybe some stalker cosmetics or something, like the stalker mode effect around the screen and the helmet.
*i've been waiting ever since the first known announcement of stalker mode in the works- as well as the videos with it through the tenno-con it was first shown.
Did they state what level these omni missions would be? example: 80-110 outside Steel path (as a base marker). Did they state what mission types it was, or is it anything exclusive? (void cascade, void flood, mirror defense, etc)? Sorry for the odd questions, but I didn't have much free time the past weeks... thus know very little.
I guess an endless type omni-mission where you could do all four types at once strategically with your friends, maybe when a new prime drops, could be cool. But for a lot of us the the only everyday qol we are ever looking for is a SHORT mission that can be speed run to crack a relic. So a capture or exterminate ideally, or the occasional sabotage - something that can be burned through in 60-90 seconds max. Waiting strategically for those missions to appear is probably the main bottleneck. Relics can certainly be a major part of the grind in Warframe, but the grind is also finely tuned to motivate enough platinum buying, for example the ton of platinum they probably sell for resource boosters when a new prime drops. So I understand how hard it is for them, but not really the qol I’m looking for.
I’m still up for void storms unlocking like 4 at a time for a person
A potential way to avoid leaches, or to just incetivize radiant relics is to have a special currency in addition to void traces that allows players to buy packs of relics from a certain rank. This will allow the players using radiant axi relics to save up for a pack of axi relics so they don't feel like they wasted too much.
The incentive to radiants is a better chance for the rare drop… the “leeches” will most likely be trace farmers that now will get a chance for a rare drop from Axi’s while they get through their backlog of Liths and Mesos.
Not a great update, at least not as great as taters is making it to be.
so?
There is a currency. Universal Medallions.
Enough of them - as well as a Syndicate's own medallions - to buy Relic Packs in bulk would be great, because one on its own is lackluster as a reward given the balance between the quantity of rep acquired, VS the amount per pack.
Plus, all the Landscape Syndicates also sell Relic Packs. The ways are there.
i wish they would add somesort of system which would allow you to scrap the unwanted relics for Void traces and not some meager of 2-5 traces per relic but possilby around 10-15 Or possibility to Trade away the relics at npc such as Varzi in return for another relic of rotation choice. but that's just my personal wish. I have accumulated 8 or more different Lith relic types with stacks of 30-40.
I think the specific era missions will be fine- lower level for baby tenno (cuz god I hope there wont be MR1 players joining a high level Omnia) and if the mission for the Omnia sucks the specific era might still have a better one. I imagine most radshares would stick to using the era ones when good, unless maybe someone wanted to join with a different era relic that had the same piece, but that doesn't happen often.
These new missions won't be immune to the problems we already face in normal fissures. We already have leeches, the RNG can just sometimes be like "here's a forma for all of you" and you get nothing good, or everyone can get the common drop. As excited as I am to run any relics I like in one mission, I am somewhat underwhelmed by this. Definitely still stoked for more info though, could turn out epic.
What i want is to either open mutiple at once or to fucking sell them somewhere. i got to many and i really dont feel like cracking them.
A way to prevent leeches is to make it so you can only pick rewards of your relic tier or lower.
Maybe they allow you to have all rewards in a standard relic mission with some traces payment?
Jumped back in and saw these missions and i stayed warframe hawrd for days!! Yes please morr if this!
I wonder if this is the mode where they're going to introduce the long-forgotten omni forma.
I wish there was a way to run solo and crack multiple relics at once. like use 15 relics, have 15 rewards you select. Choose 1 reward and it cycles to next screen of next reward, left to right, and so on until you've selected 15/15.
As much as most of some people didn't like Railjack, I actually quite enjoy it and wished it was as seamless like when it was first revealed when you can fly straight to Fortuna and land your squad while the pilot is sending air support.
Was really hoping for “crack multiple relics at once”
That could have gotten this legendary tenno back on more frequent
Damn that relic selection screen could get a little intense. I have issues finding the next relic already if I didn't happen to plan them beforehand
Most of the time I crack relics solo running endless missions, usually survivals. Hopefully we get Lua Disruption omni fissure as an option, well anything Lua really
I dont think it will effect the market much in the long term. We will probably see vaulted stuff come down in cost for maybe a month or so, but it will come back up before too long. I'm just excited to continue longer farms with my friends, and to be able to get upgraded relic drops
At this rate, we should be able to craft either a "Relic Entanglement Stabilizer" or "Relic Entanglement Cypher" which either lets us drop a certain number of possible rewards from relics to make getting specific parts more likely, or just flat out pick the exact reward from the relic we need, make them 72 hour crafts and untradeable or mastery locked to MR25+, but you would think something that modifies the rolls a bit more than refinement would exist. At this rate id be happy with a Argon orbiter module that only lets one crystal decay every 24 hours instead of half
Did they ever mention how we could farm for Dante and his weapons? I don't remember
I mean it will probably just be another Lith mission basically as most will just use them as they have so many of them and might get better reward if someone use something else. Hopefully it will eventuelly get more random when people start using up Lith, though doubt as its just way easier getting than other relics.
I wonder if it would be possible to have a system where when you queue for a fissure, it’ll only match you with people who’ve also selected the relic you did. I have no issues making radshare groups manually but I would appreciate a faster easier way to get a group going
I love railjack mission! (Not Corpus one cus it takes too long and always require a full team to board the ship) I'm excited for more updates and rewards that comes from it.
Corpus Railjack sucks because it's just a taxi, there's no interaction between ship and frame layers
Doesn't change much, vet relic runners only run mission like marianna, armaros, roche and the void capture and exterminate. Might be good to do void cascade as relic can be an extra cherry
Imagine if you could open one of each era in one reward rotation.
2:36 a note should be added here
*but if you stay longer than 120 minutes you will be banned
I don’t think it’d be confusing for new players considering the areas for Omni fissures are all unlocked post new war and later quests
Does this new relic meta somehow match the efficiency of radshare for farming rares ?
Nice qol stuff.
The only thing I think is gonna be annoying about this is when inevitably someone is just trying to farm traces, and the only endless mission they have a backlog of relics for ends up being omnia. Like, I don't have enough Axis that I want to basically throw away to build up traces. So right now if the only endless fissure up is an Axi (definitely happened to me before), I'm just shit outta luck. With omnia that gives me another option, but now people are gonna complain if I rock up with unenhanced relics. Idk, this is cool but more than mission types, for me the main pain point of relics at this point really is the traces.
Its great, but will make things a lot easier, I hope that won't backfire too much... although with prime items always being in rotation, only for new things to return or take the stage for the first time.. it may be an unwarranted worry.
They’ve added soooo much to the game over the last couple years, but hardly any changes that make a difference. I come back after a year, play for 1-2 weeks farming parts and rep, then quit for another year because it’s still the same farm to spam melee attacks and nuke frames. I wish they’d work on a warframe part two already and make all the appropriate changes so it can be a real mutual player game and not just a lobby
I missed the old relic farm before this one they added
NEW RAIL JACK FEATURES HINTED!! LETS GOOOO
Dunno about you but I got a LOT of Lith relics and it'd be nice to have a fissure to crack them that isn't level 10-15 with enemies literally made out of paper.
Will they make it so that we can refine relics in endless missions with the reactant gathered from the endless mission?
It'd be cool if they made it possible to use multiple relics at once. I know how absurdly busted that would probably be, but after all my xbox stuff got ported to my pc account, the sheer amount of relics I now have would take tens of hours to get rid of, something I don't have time for, not to mention how burnt out I'd probably get from just playing the same mission endlessly on loop till each is cleared.
I hope we get some new Railjack content, bit niche but I love the potential of RJ
I’ve been waiting for new RJ content. Weird to have this big ass ship and not use it much. Hope they let us live in it
How is an omni fissure more rewarding than a radshare if you're targeting a specific prime part?
You can only pick one reward.
The thing is, if I want a particular piece, I'm gonna have a 4-man squad running all that same relic for 4 times the chance to get that piece. I don't run fissures beyond getting my own sets, so I probably won't be running this at all.
This game is too fun 🤩 I’ve been playing since 2016/2017 and the fun never ends
This sounds like a great way to cut down on the 1000+ relics I've got sitting in my inventory.
They should add a fissure mission where you can ONLY bring a certain refinement (radiant flawless etc. etc.) so that if you just want some prime junk you start up a public and everybody is on radiant. No leeches, everybody is happy.
has a quality of life i truly like the idea of mumur geting void relic
actualy i ask in "x" if they can add more void relics in veil
since i truly want to play with the necramechs and only veil and sactum are the only non open world content available
this make me happy
i asume the reason of one for all relic missions is because the stel path lilith and meso are the less played lobbys in the game
not mention lith and meso in railjack
i honestly wish they letme ride the necramech in the zarima but i am worry they may gona try to do stupid shit like lua traks missions
I don’t even play warframe anymore I just enjoy listening for some reason
im just wondering when we can get rid of the eximus overguard, really has been too long with it in the game.
all damage skills or AOE weapons dont notice the overguard, but CC frames and slow fire single target (or status stacking weapons) really heavily notice the overguard, which is the opposite of the intended effect.
I think the railjack thing is definitely infested railjack, I mean he said they're doing stuff for railjack, and we can't have a Infested lich without railjack for infested
Oh my god, a chance to unlock any relic I want on the same mission? That sounds like a good way to kill a whole day!
we need the option to open multiple relics
I feel like its great in concept but doesnt need to be a new mission or mode. Think just simply taking the railjack void missions and have players do 3 to 5 relics at a time would be a lot more easier development wise. That and/or have the endless void missions be increimental with their relics to have it be more of a risk reward factor.
5:20 time to find another farm.
Void Cascade is already overwhelming for loot. I NEED MOOOOORRRREEEE
Cannot please everyone but this is huge 🔥🔥
I get trade banned every time i try getting some plat. Its quite annoying as the last time I was banned for 8 months.
Really needs to be an update to syndicates.
New specters, syndicate mods and weapons. Those have been the same for a long long time.
(Saying that as a returning player from 5 years ago)
I'll be honest. Railjack after the first difficulty decrease felt properly difficult form the enemy you fight in frame to the railjack enemies. All roles had a defineitive impact and it overall was fun. After the third difiuclty decrease and the railjack rework it really became just a roadbump in terms of fun gameplay. It was a bad deceion personally at least to turn railjack from a co-op style mission back to a pure power fantasy settting as it really did remove most unique aspects and the "roles" from it.
leeching is something that can never be avoided. I have seen so many players drop a specter armed with a shedu press X to stay in place then they jump into operator form and hide in a corner during arbitrations. However this new relic offerring is a great bonus for clans so non clan players that enter public can expect to be seeing lith pretty much 90% of the time.
More railjack?! *Wishes to know more*