It would be rad for Disney to make a surfcoaster branded to Aladdin (magic carpet ride). It could go through the Cave of Wonders as it collapses, with lava themed water effects as you escape the cave with the lamp. Could be cool.
Easily S&S El Locos are the model I'd push most to see more of. They're basically 'grown up' wild mice that are significantly more thrilling while being fairly affordable for medium sized parks.
It's probably too similar to the Eurofighter, which many parks already have. And the parks which don't have them are probably larger parks which need higher-capacity rides, or smaller parks which can't afford them. The El Loco solves neither of those issues.
@@me-myself-i787Perhaps, although the subject of this video is models we wish we saw more of. There are few very thrilling coasters out there which can fit on such tiny plots of land. It was still affordable enough for parks like Indiana Beach and I think it was an excellent addition to the Adventuredome in Las Vegas. Even with it being a really fun model, I'll openly acknowledge it can also seem redundant at parks that already have coasters like Eurofighters, wild mice, etc.
You two are so good at making videos together, I’ve never seen two people record a video where they both get a pretty even time talking with it still sounding natural. It’s like you don’t hear them interrupt each other, but it also doesn’t look or sound like they’re reading off a script. Really impressive and something that I think a lot of people don’t really notice.
I feel like FLY does everything so well, even without any theming it would be an amazing ride. In the front you get some really fun airtime. And then the back gives some absolutely insane positives. Then the theming ontop of it makes it a brilliant package
in this case I'd say it's more of "I wish this ride type could make a return" but I'd really love to see more swinging suspended coasters. I've only ever done The Bat at King's Island, but it's so much fun! I'd also think that, decades later, companies like S&S should be able to fix some of the flaws Arrow's designs had, like their durability
Vekoma and S&S are partner companies, maybe they could figure something out. I would really like them to refurbish Vortex at Wonderland, it's getting rough a bit.
No other type of coaster flows like a fully swinging suspended coaster. The inverted rigid-mount coaster is a poor man's version and just whips riders around.
Based on how S&S perfected Arrows design on the 4D coaster, id love to see more. X2 is super extreme and not for everyone and the only other one is in Japan.
I have ridden X2 and thought it was great albeit rough. Just got back from Japan a few weeks ago and I can confirm that Eejenaika fixes and improves on everything wrong with X2. It is the most insane experience I have ever had on a coaster and seeing Mount Fuji upside down is something I will never forget!
Dollywood is now completely balanced with family/extreme coasters with the new addition of Big Bear Mountain (5 & 5.) I'd like to see an I305-esq giga come next to solidify it as a worldwide destination park while throwing us enthusiasts a big juicy giga bone 😊
I think the reason the Chance Hyper GTX didn't take off is that it isn't marketable. They don't have a lot of height or speed that will draw people in.
You could say the same thing about Maverick back when it opened. CF took a gamble and it paid off: still one of the most popular rides in the park despite not having amazing stats. It is all about packing a thrill, no matter the height/speed.
@@josephqualtier961 is it though? There are so many other models smaller parks could go for that would be as cheap and as marketable. Not to mention gimmicky coasters are starting to become a little more popular with smaller parks wanting to draw in more people
• I agree with the new flying Dutchman coasters. F.L.Y. is just too good for it to be a one a kind. • Gerstlauer family coasters are probably the best out there currently. The ideas are amazing. A new one for 2023 is Firlefranz in Germany. You launch backwards onto a spike and go through the layout normally first and then again backwards. • I wanna say we need more Vekoma STC's. Only one is operating, Hals über Kopf in Germany. Suuuuuper smooth. • What I wanna add to the list now is maybe a bit controversial. Maurer Sky Loops. The prototype on Germany still rides like new and the Hangtime is just awesome.
I really want anothe one like Lech coaster Poland is just to far. Not that i would mind some more STC still think the better B&M are better. But its so nice and reridable.
Speaking of Straddle coasters, I want the Vekoma motorbike coaster to take off! They have a great sense of speed with great fast banked turns. We just got Tron, but that’s been the only installation since 2011. Boosterbike At Toverland fits amazingly in that park, and I also have a soft spot for velocity at Flamingoland. Very Underrated coaster because it has a rare yet forceful Vekoma Hydraulic launch, I’m so glad you guys will be riding it soon.
for me id like a revamped spaghetti bowl coaster. Joker's Jinx is one of my all-time favorite and I think with a greater launch and more inversions and Intamin style banked turn it could be amazing, or put them in the dark like with flight of fear
I’d love to see more of Gravity Group’s junior woodies. Oscars wacky taxi is so much fun and I can see where lots of parks would benefit from one of these.
Some people from that other park on coney island last summer and they had plans to see if they could fit a vekoma space warp (formula from energylandia) on it they have some land behind their inverted family coaster that might fit.
Its mind boggling how the Chance hyper gtx hasnt been installed at parks like Waldameer, Knobels, or Holiday World. I so wish there was a 4D coaster like Eejanaika at Kings Island, or Cedar Point.
The problem with the HyperGTX is that they're too small for the big parks, and for the price a smaller park could get a similarly-sized wooden coaster and several other rides. It's the same reason why Intamin Mega-Lites don't sell well. As for the 4D, they're a massive investment.
4d coasters are usually too intense for the GP, plus they would probably think they're the exact same as Gatekeeper and other wing coasters. A hyper GTX could be a worthy replacement for Vortex, however!
@@VestedUTuber HyperGTXes are basically Raptors if they didn't have a single rail, and Raptors sell pretty well right now! If they made the layout more intense and added a few inversions like Lech Coaster they would probably sell pretty well! Or parks could just get a bermuda blitz...
@@lightningboat Cost is still a factor. RMC's single-rail track design vastly reduces costs, as it's just made from plate and extruded steel and can simply be bolted together. The HyperGTX's track design is a lot more complex and has to be welded together, and that increases the cost of fabrication. Same goes for Intamin's truss box track on their Mega-Lites. Additionally the RMC Raptor train design is suited to extremely compact layouts, so the minimum size for a Raptor is a lot smaller than that of a HyperGTX.
What about the Art Engineering Mega Coaster. I know that lagoon had someone else do the track manufacturing but I think that the model has fantastic potential and needs more models
Six Flags New England is in DESPERATE need of a top notch launch coaster. Intamin or the new Vekoma launch coasters would give the park an awesome trifecta of Superman, Wicked Cyclone, and then the launch coaster.
I’m pretty sure Hyper GTX never took off because there’s no quirk to it. Eurofighters have beyond vertical drops, Raptors ride on only one rail, etc. It certainly isn’t the cost though i’m pretty sure lightning run was $7 mil which is good for that price. My question would be though why did the Intamin mega lite get 5 sales if this didn’t, maybe because there were more parks that needed something like that at the time ig. And on the straddle coasters juvelen and jet rescue have both been for families they just happened to be more intense lol
I feel like the success of 4D free spins hurts the likelihood of parks getting new non-free spin 4D coasters. Your average guest probably won't realize how different the 2 are since they have similar gimmicks, so why would a park pay $30 million for a massive 4D coaster that needs a big plot of land when they can get the same gimmick on a small footprint for 1/3 of the price (couldn't easily find and real numbers, but the one i did find said they're $10 million).
The X2/Eejanaika/Dinoconda model of rail-controlled 4D flips now seems massively overengineered--if you were designing that kind of thing from scratch today you might use the Guardians of the Galaxy model of battery-powered motors under computer control. And the Free Spin just leaves out control entirely (though I guess there are track magnets that induce some of the flipping), which makes the whole system simpler.
A friend of mine and I had the exact idea for a channel we never got around to starting and u guy’s literally got each n every one that we were talking about 💀
S&S 4D is definitely at the top of the list for me. I'd also like to see RMC do more Topper track woodies. I realize that a lot of people assume Lightning Rod killed that but the reliability is still low and that has more to do with the launch than just the track type. I think the Topper track could still be used for lift hill coasters. And similarly, we need Intamin to build more prefabs. Nothing by Gravity Group or GCI compare to the RMC Topper track woodies or Intamin prefab (and that includes the good but overrated Voyage.)
1. I wish Gravity Group did more large scale wooden coasters (150 feet+). Hades 360 is good and we all know The Voyage is amazing so they've proved they can make great large wooden coasters. 2. B&M Flyers or new Vekoma flyers at least in the US. 3. Roller soakers. I know this model is pretty much extinct but it thought they were pretty fun especially on hot days. Though I'd like to have more of a similar water war type model in the US 4. Intamin prefabs. While these have encountered some issues recently these are still great rides that I wish there'd be more of. 5. RMC topper track. Everything RMC makes is fantastic. Since these count as wooden roller coasters so I'm sure a park somewhere could build one of these to break every record for a wooden roller coaster and make it a mind blowing experience. 6. I'd like a launched coasters that have the power of the hydraulic and reliability of LSMs. I'm baffled that in 2023 that engineers haven't figured out either how to make the hydraulic launch as reliable as the LSM, make LSMs as powerful as hydraulic (which I think is possible), or make a new launch that's as powerful as the hydraulic launch and reliable as the LSMs.
IF....Cedar Fair decides to bring back the Orient Express to WoF, I wish they'd ask Chance Rides or Vekoma to do it. The stats wouldn't have to be record breaking, it's a fan favorite like the Zambezi was, so people would get excited no matter what.
#! for me: Arrow Suspended Coaster (Vortex at CW, Bat at KI) . This ride IMO has INSANE potential. I absolutely love this type of ride. If you want to see what this ride is capable of go watch a POV of Eagle's Fortress. That was INSANE>
I think there is a massive space for indoor spinning rides. Guardians has really shown how much a well themed spinner in doors can go hard. That ride is pretty basic and it's amazing how much the disorientation from dark ride settings adds to the spinner. If you gave me time traveler in a dark warehouse themed up with lights, I'd love to see it.
I would like to see more gerstlauer hyper infinity coasters like der schwur des karnan at Hansa park. And gci hybrid coasters with inversions and infinity flyer trains like the new Zambezi zinger.
I think that the INVERTED POWERD COASTER from MACK RIDES is also a ride time we need to see more! Only I actually new already that there are too expensive, so I understand why they're not much out there, but stil.
The one that is perfect for my home park is the Chance Hyper GTX. My home park is Michigan's Adventure. We desperately need a better steel coaster than Mad Mouse, Thunderhawk and Corkscrew. RCDB says Lightning Run was $7 million. I've also heard recently that our last addition, the relocated SLC cost about $10 million. So it seems to me like the Hyper GTX is probably the best coaster we could get in the range that Cedar Fair may be willing to spend on this park. Speaking of which, there's some brand new track on Shivering Timbers and tons of new track and NEW PROFILING on Wolverine Wildcat. Between that and the Titan track last year WW is becoming really good. Serious good ejector pops in the front row. Believe it or not it reminds me of Mystic Timbers! The last lap is still a meat grinder but it seems like it's getting a huge section of new track every year. Pretty soon it'll be brand new again. But better. I rode it when it was brand new, it's definitely becoming better.
I think a mach extreme spinner would also do really good at Hershey or Cedar Point. Cedar Point in particular could do something crazy with it and it just makes sense that they have that model
I feel like true 4D coasters need to have a rework before they become popular installations. Wing coasters will inherently have a bit of a rattle just by the nature of the train's design, and that shakiness is increased exponentially when you add in the rack and pinyon mechanisms that allow the seats to flip on true 4Ds. Additionally, there is so much steel involved in 4D coasters, so there would need to be some way to make the track require less material so that they can be more affordable to build. ALSO, I think the world would benefit from installing some smaller 4D coasters as well; like, on the scale that Arrow originally intended them. I think that would be the most popular iteration of the 4D coaster we would ever see, if it were to ever come to fruition.
It does seem like most US park chains have the coaster brands they like to stick to, and don't want to take risks with a new kind of ride... On a side note, I'd love to see a video of you going over the evolution of coasters, how 20-30 years ago, it was all about breaking records and being as intense as possible, but now it seems parks are way better at making rides just plain 'fun', and don't care as much about height or speed records.
My home park is Gardaland... We desperately need a new major coaster, we haven't seen one since 2015. Now, there are a few options in my opinion, but my biggest dream would be a Mack X-treme Spinner, and considering that Merlin is working with Mack for Exodus, it may not be as impossibile as it sounds... Merlin also loves to work with B&M, so a Surf Coaster could be another possibility, and I wouldn't mind it at all, although Gardaland deserves a truly standout coaster imo. And if the park decides to go for a family/thrill type of ride, something like Juvelen would be absolutely amazing. Whatever the model is going to be, I think Gardaland needs a launched. We have too many lift hills lol
I feel like a vekoma flyer would fit perfectly on the hillside where mountain sliderwinder used to be. That part of the park is already aviation themed with Barnstormer. I’m not sure how big of a footprint an extreme spinner has, but that’s what I think Dollywood needs the most next
I feel like there are some reasons why there aren’t more of these models. Surf coasters: Parks want to see how Pipeline performed before trying to buy one Hyper GTX: They can’t market it nearly as much if parks Next Gen Flying Coaster: I’m not sure, but the price could be expensive, however that is just speculation as I can’t find the price of fly anywhere Xtreme Spinner: Very expensive considering Leviathan (the giga) cost only about $2m more than time traveler. Millie costed the park $1m less (not factoring inflation) I305 costed the park the same as Millie (to be fair, it wasn’t exactly a hit.) Even top thrill dragster costed less than time traveler (not factoring inflation.) If these parks could build a high capacity, gp magnet giga, or a spinning coaster, I think they’d opt for the giga. Now if a park like KI with a large budget and already has a giga, I could see it. Extreme Straddle Coasters: Not sure. It feels like the only active buyer of these in America is the seaworld chain, and even then, they don’t make extreme versions. I just don’t think it fills many holes in a parks lineup or something. I’ve never been on one, so I can’t comment much on the ride experience, and I can’t find a price for any of these rides. Intamin Megacoasters: The parks that don’t either have an old gen version or an Intamin LSM are either new parks or don’t have the budget. Energylandia got Hyperion four years after the park was built which is pretty insane, and Kondaa was Walibi Belgiums fourth coaster after Compagnie des Alpes became independent in 2005. As you guys said, Intamin launches are also probably this models biggest competitor and they are opting for that because it has a similar ride experience and they may or may not cost less and definitely take up less space. Gerstlauer family coasters: there are twelve of these already not including one under construction and set to open in 2024. You just don’t think there are many because there aren’t many in the US New Gen Vekoma: I just don’t think American parks trust Vekoma after their terrible excuse of an invert even though Europe is popping with these. I think we are taking a step in the right direction with big bear mountain and circuit breaker however. I am certain there will be a fair amount of these by 2030. 4D coasters: I mean they cost almost as much as Time Traveler and take up a massive plot of land. It costed 25m USD or 3.5b Japanese yen.
I would love to see more coasters like Cosmic Rewind, where there is a controlled spin that points you to what it wants you to see. I had a blast with that ride.
I wonder why there aren't more Zierer Elevated Seating Coasters in general. Verbolten is the only one in the US now (Crossbow is now in Sweden). I am not a fan of Verbolten as the ride grossly overshot the intensity for a family coaster (and the show building is an eyesore and not very good inside), but if they gave it another shot at another park (and if it had a drop track, the drop should be longer to give a decent moment of freefall rather than just a pop and a slam), I'd give that a fair evaluation.
Although you may only see them at small parks, Id love to see more El Locos pop up. They're great small footprint, small thrill rides that would be great for small parks like Wild Waves, Frontier City, Silverwood, heck even La Ronde could use something like that. And even though we probably won't ever see another Vekoma stingray again, I hope with the New Gen coaster that they revive the idea, work out the bugs and sell them off to smaller parks looking for a thrill.
Having done all S&S compressed air launch coasters (except in China) we need MORE! I miss hypersonic so much at my home park. Looking at Max Force showing what they are capable of is exciting!
I just rode it last month!!! It is far and away the most insane experience I have had on a coaster. I rank it 2nd behind Velocicoaster only because the ride system is not the most comfortable and / or re-rideable. But honestly that first drop is like being thrown out of a moving plane in a washing machine. When I saw mount fuji upside down I knew I was riding something Elite and Special!
I think that the coaster type that we need a lot of is the launched topper track coaster. The prototype didn't work well but if given a second chance, RMC could really perfect it!
I just saw the top comment saying how Disney should create a surf coaster themed to Aladdin with the flying carpet and going through the Cave Of Wonders or Arabia, since Aladdin is one of my favourite Disney movies and just one of my favourite movies I love that idea. Tokyo Disneysea has an Arabia section so maybe it could make a great spot there and just expand the Arabia section, but I’ve never been to Tokyo Disneysea or Japan in general, I also think Walt Disney World could be a great idea since I have been there (and loved it) maybe they should make an entire new park themed to Aladdin, Arabia, and The Cave Of Wonders and add a ride like that but it’s quite a crazy and big idea. I’m also just a general ride enjoyer and not any sort of critic or enthusiast when it comes to rides that I’ve been on, there are rides I love but I still dislike ones I don’t like and this Aladdin surf roller coaster idea sounds awesome. Another cool idea could be a surf coaster themed to Treasure Planet when Jim Hawkins is surfing around in the sky. Disney should really hear about an idea like this and take and if not, all y’all coaster enthusiasts can constantly BUG Disney until they eventually do it or something. Idk but I think the idea is cool and so god damn fun. 😊👍
I feel like the surf coaster is a PERFECT fit for my home park, Six Flags over Texas. Unless they want to install an Intamin blitz, which is the dream.
We need more Larsen Loopers by Golly, each loop larger than the last. I'd like to see more Dinn Woodies with curvy layouts - cause less confusion for riders, maybe Dinn up that Steel Vengeance. JK Guys, great video, I'd love to see more of all the coasters mentioned, especially the Mack Spinner Model. I think one of these would be the perfect new coaster for Holiday World soon. It has that certain vibe to it.
In terms of US, I do want to see more Gerstlauer Infinity models. I know they're starting to come now, but with their versatility, reliability, and relatively cheap cost, I want to see Infinity coasters everywhere! For me, I think a launched inversion machine would be the perfect replacented for Volcano at KD.
Honestly, its a damn shame the cost (and space) is probably the biggest reason we dont have as many giga coasters overall. Like give me more Fury 325, heck, even a little more tame version of I305 would be such a huge hit with the GP. I'm just grabby hands when it comes to gigas
Ride to happiness was only actually 18 mil, which seems pretty affordable for the big chains, it would be a larger investment, but very doable for larger parks.
I'd LOVE to see more SFX coasters get built! My worry is the long production of Mission Ferrari will scare off US parks but i would be beyond onboard with that Avengers E-Ticket coming to Disneyland being the first SFX coaster in the US!
I’d love to see S&S revive the suspended coaster. Vortex at CW is amazing and I wish I could have gotten to ride Eagle Fortress and Bug Bad Wolf before they were dismantled.
Said it before, but I'll say it again. Cedar Point should absolutely consider replacing Corkscrew with a B&M Surf. It'd work well in that long, thin footprint if they don't add a Gerstlauer Infinity, and they can keep the iconic double corkscrew. And when Rougarou bites the dust, that'll be an insanely massive footprint for either a Mach XSC or modern Vekoma Flyer.
My home prark is PortAventura in Spain, recently Prove Fly and I think it has been one of the best experiences I have had on a roller coaster, and in PortAventura we lack attractions of this caliber in some areas. sorry for my bad english
I do hope Universale is going to buy it. Its an incredibly nice looking park with some good coasters but man the operations and fast policy's kills the joy for me.
Great video! Quick tip and I think you already saw it, but next time put the light in a different spot. You can see it in the reflection on your main camera. Or use a big soft box.
Yeah, we've been experimenting with different lighting set ups to get the best set up- the main issue we've encountered is the posters reflect anything we put behind them, so it's been annoying to deal with. A soft box is definitely something we should consider.
Seems like the B&M Surf Coaster went instantly from "they're building what?" to "there must be more of these" once the first one opened. The Surf Coaster and the Vekoma neo-flyer are sort of the same pattern, that they're switching from an old model of crushing people with super-extreme positive Gs to doing something more nuanced with the same basic idea. Enthusiasts always complain that the Chance Hyper-GTX hasn't caught on, but it seems to me that's for enthusiasts, whereas the Surf Coaster has this hook that could appeal to a really broad public.
All these models you really had great insight on WHY they should be here in the states and I appreciate it. That said, when you said if you dont live in california, you may never ever even know something like x2 is around and it makes me so sad. As an enthusiast I love hearing people talk about coasters as a more GP stance. But if more people can experience a 4-D coaster, it would make me so happy. Ps: I really hope Viper at SFMM gets the boot soon, yes its classic, yes its rough, but also on a good day you can get some great rides in....however....Its had its time to shine and my god what I would love to see on that plot of land is ENDLESSSSSSSSSSSS. Its such a beast of an area to work with and I can only imagine anything NEW GEN would just be phenomenal. After that....lets get ninja outta here and add an insane new gen vekoma terrain multi launch! lol unpopular opinion
Slightly different but how about reviving defunct ride models with modern tech? Thinking update to the Ultra twister. From the UK, would take any new coaster to add to those stats. Usually have to wait about 8 years between the real good additions. Oh, there was a buzz on the audio. Just letting you know as you seem to be AV nerds :)
If the stand up coaster can be successfully revived, I don't see why the Ultra Twister or Pipeline couldn't(other than big tracksize to capacity ratio, or how easy heartlining with CAD is nowadays)
Great video! If you look at RCDB Lightning run only cost 7 million dollars. It is incredibly affordable and I think alot of smaller parks should look at investing in a coaster like it
I’d love for carowinds (home park) to remove night hawk and maybe vortex and replace it with a new gen vekoma flyer so that they don’t lose the effect of the flying coaster right through the entrance but replace and upgrade nighthawks (crap) experience. Also the lake night hawk is over could be even more incorporated into the flying layout.
I know there is already one in Orlando but I 1000% want a Super Mario themed surf coaster at Super Nintendo World. If you have been on Pipeline you will know why.
2:18 I'm assuming Chance is charging a premium on the model. I'd agree it's likely the cost and/or competitors having a cheaper alternative. Or, maybe many parks don't have relationships with Chance and/or trust them enough? 7:50 It's a bummer the water effects weren't on for your ride on Yippee. It looks awesome when it's turned on.
Surprised that you didn't add intamin pre fab woodies. Sure, the upkeep is a bit difficult but the ride experience is so so different from normal woodies. I love a good rattle but having that buttery smooth experience is just so cool on a woodie that is packed with airtime.
FLY got it right with what flying coasters should be. People ride them to experience the flying position rather than being on their back and disoriented from constant inversions.
It would be rad for Disney to make a surfcoaster branded to Aladdin (magic carpet ride). It could go through the Cave of Wonders as it collapses, with lava themed water effects as you escape the cave with the lamp. Could be cool.
It would be cool yeah, but it would take them 10 years to build it ig hahha
OK, but Disney needs to acknowledge B&M's existence first.
Fantastic idea, but way too cool for Disney to do it. They are retarded after all.
Another idea I had was a Sonic The Hedgehog themed Surf Coaster themed to City Escape
@@Coolharry64 That sounds like a top priority...for a Dubai park.
Easily S&S El Locos are the model I'd push most to see more of. They're basically 'grown up' wild mice that are significantly more thrilling while being fairly affordable for medium sized parks.
It's probably too similar to the Eurofighter, which many parks already have. And the parks which don't have them are probably larger parks which need higher-capacity rides, or smaller parks which can't afford them. The El Loco solves neither of those issues.
@@me-myself-i787Perhaps, although the subject of this video is models we wish we saw more of. There are few very thrilling coasters out there which can fit on such tiny plots of land. It was still affordable enough for parks like Indiana Beach and I think it was an excellent addition to the Adventuredome in Las Vegas. Even with it being a really fun model, I'll openly acknowledge it can also seem redundant at parks that already have coasters like Eurofighters, wild mice, etc.
You two are so good at making videos together, I’ve never seen two people record a video where they both get a pretty even time talking with it still sounding natural. It’s like you don’t hear them interrupt each other, but it also doesn’t look or sound like they’re reading off a script. Really impressive and something that I think a lot of people don’t really notice.
I never noticed that but ur right
I feel like FLY does everything so well, even without any theming it would be an amazing ride. In the front you get some really fun airtime. And then the back gives some absolutely insane positives. Then the theming ontop of it makes it a brilliant package
in this case I'd say it's more of "I wish this ride type could make a return" but I'd really love to see more swinging suspended coasters. I've only ever done The Bat at King's Island, but it's so much fun! I'd also think that, decades later, companies like S&S should be able to fix some of the flaws Arrow's designs had, like their durability
I agree, I've only done Vampire at Chessington which is fun but with modern technology, vekoma could reintroduce this model
Yeah was going to post the same. I’ve only ever done big bad wolf and I’d like to see someone do a modern take on it.
Vekoma and S&S are partner companies, maybe they could figure something out. I would really like them to refurbish Vortex at Wonderland, it's getting rough a bit.
I love this response! I did "top gun" aka "the bat", "ninja" and "iron dragon" .. honestly loved them all.. would love to see a redesign of them
I really wish we had more Arrow suspended coasters. They were perfect for family coasters, but you could also make them a little more thrilling.
No other type of coaster flows like a fully swinging suspended coaster. The inverted rigid-mount coaster is a poor man's version and just whips riders around.
Yes I totally agree!!!
Based on how S&S perfected Arrows design on the 4D coaster, id love to see more. X2 is super extreme and not for everyone and the only other one is in Japan.
It’s a shame we don’t have more
There's one in China as well. But yeah, we need more of them.
It was also $55 million, including the X2 refurb (X was $45 by comparison)
I have ridden X2 and thought it was great albeit rough. Just got back from Japan a few weeks ago and I can confirm that Eejenaika fixes and improves on everything wrong with X2. It is the most insane experience I have ever had on a coaster and seeing Mount Fuji upside down is something I will never forget!
there's also one in china
Dollywood is now completely balanced with family/extreme coasters with the new addition of Big Bear Mountain (5 & 5.) I'd like to see an I305-esq giga come next to solidify it as a worldwide destination park while throwing us enthusiasts a big juicy giga bone 😊
I think the reason the Chance Hyper GTX didn't take off is that it isn't marketable. They don't have a lot of height or speed that will draw people in.
You could also say that about the Intamin or Mack Rides Mega-Lites.
@@ericthomason8463 those weren't very successful either. There were only 2 Mack Mega-Lites and 5 Intamins.
It’s marketable and cheap for a small park though
You could say the same thing about Maverick back when it opened. CF took a gamble and it paid off: still one of the most popular rides in the park despite not having amazing stats. It is all about packing a thrill, no matter the height/speed.
@@josephqualtier961 is it though? There are so many other models smaller parks could go for that would be as cheap and as marketable. Not to mention gimmicky coasters are starting to become a little more popular with smaller parks wanting to draw in more people
• I agree with the new flying Dutchman coasters. F.L.Y. is just too good for it to be a one a kind.
• Gerstlauer family coasters are probably the best out there currently. The ideas are amazing. A new one for 2023 is Firlefranz in Germany. You launch backwards onto a spike and go through the layout normally first and then again backwards.
• I wanna say we need more Vekoma STC's. Only one is operating, Hals über Kopf in Germany. Suuuuuper smooth.
• What I wanna add to the list now is maybe a bit controversial. Maurer Sky Loops. The prototype on Germany still rides like new and the Hangtime is just awesome.
I really want anothe one like Lech coaster Poland is just to far. Not that i would mind some more STC still think the better B&M are better. But its so nice and reridable.
I love to see your shirt/ souvenir collection you have acquired over the years.
Speaking of Straddle coasters, I want the Vekoma motorbike coaster to take off! They have a great sense of speed with great fast banked turns. We just got Tron, but that’s been the only installation since 2011. Boosterbike At Toverland fits amazingly in that park, and I also have a soft spot for velocity at Flamingoland. Very Underrated coaster because it has a rare yet forceful Vekoma Hydraulic launch, I’m so glad you guys will be riding it soon.
I highly doubt hydraulic launches will be coming back, unless they can be made more reliable.
@@triple7marc yeah bc vekoma isnt doing that anyomore idk but maybe LIM could be a fit
for me id like a revamped spaghetti bowl coaster. Joker's Jinx is one of my all-time favorite and I think with a greater launch and more inversions and Intamin style banked turn it could be amazing, or put them in the dark like with flight of fear
Definitely fun to look at
I’d love to see more of Gravity Group’s junior woodies. Oscars wacky taxi is so much fun and I can see where lots of parks would benefit from one of these.
Vekoma has had such an unexpected yet impressive comeback. I'd love to get to ride one of their next-gens in the US!
Some people from that other park on coney island last summer and they had plans to see if they could fit a vekoma space warp (formula from energylandia) on it they have some land behind their inverted family coaster that might fit.
Its mind boggling how the Chance hyper gtx hasnt been installed at parks like Waldameer, Knobels, or Holiday World. I so wish there was a 4D coaster like Eejanaika at Kings Island, or Cedar Point.
The problem with the HyperGTX is that they're too small for the big parks, and for the price a smaller park could get a similarly-sized wooden coaster and several other rides. It's the same reason why Intamin Mega-Lites don't sell well.
As for the 4D, they're a massive investment.
Waldameer has no room and holiday world because lightning run is an hour away and it’s too similar I guess
4d coasters are usually too intense for the GP, plus they would probably think they're the exact same as Gatekeeper and other wing coasters. A hyper GTX could be a worthy replacement for Vortex, however!
@@VestedUTuber HyperGTXes are basically Raptors if they didn't have a single rail, and Raptors sell pretty well right now! If they made the layout more intense and added a few inversions like Lech Coaster they would probably sell pretty well!
Or parks could just get a bermuda blitz...
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Cost is still a factor. RMC's single-rail track design vastly reduces costs, as it's just made from plate and extruded steel and can simply be bolted together. The HyperGTX's track design is a lot more complex and has to be welded together, and that increases the cost of fabrication. Same goes for Intamin's truss box track on their Mega-Lites. Additionally the RMC Raptor train design is suited to extremely compact layouts, so the minimum size for a Raptor is a lot smaller than that of a HyperGTX.
What about the Art Engineering Mega Coaster. I know that lagoon had someone else do the track manufacturing but I think that the model has fantastic potential and needs more models
I would like to see more intamin launch Lyft hill rollercoasters 🎢
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Six Flags New England is in DESPERATE need of a top notch launch coaster. Intamin or the new Vekoma launch coasters would give the park an awesome trifecta of Superman, Wicked Cyclone, and then the launch coaster.
I really feel like SFMM is gonna get vekoma to breathe new life into viper instead of tearing it down🤞
I'd love to see more free flowing bobsled rides like the one at Knoebels
I wonder why there hasn't been a new Mack Bobsled since 2001. Bobsleds are great family coasters, sitting with your kid.
Yessss I love Knoebels
@@100DollarHeadache Well they aren't the best coaster in the rain. Half the time they can't ride.
Up next roller coaster elements we need more of:
1. More station fly-thrus
I’m pretty sure Hyper GTX never took off because there’s no quirk to it. Eurofighters have beyond vertical drops, Raptors ride on only one rail, etc. It certainly isn’t the cost though i’m pretty sure lightning run was $7 mil which is good for that price. My question would be though why did the Intamin mega lite get 5 sales if this didn’t, maybe because there were more parks that needed something like that at the time ig.
And on the straddle coasters juvelen and jet rescue have both been for families they just happened to be more intense lol
I feel like the success of 4D free spins hurts the likelihood of parks getting new non-free spin 4D coasters. Your average guest probably won't realize how different the 2 are since they have similar gimmicks, so why would a park pay $30 million for a massive 4D coaster that needs a big plot of land when they can get the same gimmick on a small footprint for 1/3 of the price (couldn't easily find and real numbers, but the one i did find said they're $10 million).
The X2/Eejanaika/Dinoconda model of rail-controlled 4D flips now seems massively overengineered--if you were designing that kind of thing from scratch today you might use the Guardians of the Galaxy model of battery-powered motors under computer control. And the Free Spin just leaves out control entirely (though I guess there are track magnets that induce some of the flipping), which makes the whole system simpler.
A friend of mine and I had the exact idea for a channel we never got around to starting and u guy’s literally got each n every one that we were talking about 💀
S&S 4D is definitely at the top of the list for me.
I'd also like to see RMC do more Topper track woodies. I realize that a lot of people assume Lightning Rod killed that but the reliability is still low and that has more to do with the launch than just the track type. I think the Topper track could still be used for lift hill coasters. And similarly, we need Intamin to build more prefabs. Nothing by Gravity Group or GCI compare to the RMC Topper track woodies or Intamin prefab (and that includes the good but overrated Voyage.)
We really need to see more large scale Gravity Groups. The Voyage and Hades are superb. But nothing like these are build anymore.
Intamin Inverts, preferably launched, imagine Velocoaster or Pantheon like layout but inverted.
1. I wish Gravity Group did more large scale wooden coasters (150 feet+). Hades 360 is good and we all know The Voyage is amazing so they've proved they can make great large wooden coasters.
2. B&M Flyers or new Vekoma flyers at least in the US.
3. Roller soakers. I know this model is pretty much extinct but it thought they were pretty fun especially on hot days. Though I'd like to have more of a similar water war type model in the US
4. Intamin prefabs. While these have encountered some issues recently these are still great rides that I wish there'd be more of.
5. RMC topper track. Everything RMC makes is fantastic. Since these count as wooden roller coasters so I'm sure a park somewhere could build one of these to break every record for a wooden roller coaster and make it a mind blowing experience.
6. I'd like a launched coasters that have the power of the hydraulic and reliability of LSMs. I'm baffled that in 2023 that engineers haven't figured out either how to make the hydraulic launch as reliable as the LSM, make LSMs as powerful as hydraulic (which I think is possible), or make a new launch that's as powerful as the hydraulic launch and reliable as the LSMs.
IF....Cedar Fair decides to bring back the Orient Express to WoF, I wish they'd ask Chance Rides or Vekoma to do it. The stats wouldn't have to be record breaking, it's a fan favorite like the Zambezi was, so people would get excited no matter what.
Watch Knotts install a "Pipeline" style hyper coaster in place of that Giga coaster that I'm still hoping for here on the West Coast.
#! for me: Arrow Suspended Coaster (Vortex at CW, Bat at KI) . This ride IMO has INSANE potential. I absolutely love this type of ride. If you want to see what this ride is capable of go watch a POV of Eagle's Fortress. That was INSANE>
I think there is a massive space for indoor spinning rides. Guardians has really shown how much a well themed spinner in doors can go hard. That ride is pretty basic and it's amazing how much the disorientation from dark ride settings adds to the spinner. If you gave me time traveler in a dark warehouse themed up with lights, I'd love to see it.
I would like to see more gerstlauer hyper infinity coasters like der schwur des karnan at Hansa park. And gci hybrid coasters with inversions and infinity flyer trains like the new Zambezi zinger.
I think that the INVERTED POWERD COASTER from MACK RIDES is also a ride time we need to see more!
Only I actually new already that there are too expensive, so I understand why they're not much out there, but stil.
I think universale or disney could do something really nice with it yes.
Dollywood will get a Vekoma thrill coaster next. They likely bought a coaster package from Vekoma. I should go to Vegas.
The one that is perfect for my home park is the Chance Hyper GTX. My home park is Michigan's Adventure. We desperately need a better steel coaster than Mad Mouse, Thunderhawk and Corkscrew.
RCDB says Lightning Run was $7 million. I've also heard recently that our last addition, the relocated SLC cost about $10 million. So it seems to me like the Hyper GTX is probably the best coaster we could get in the range that Cedar Fair may be willing to spend on this park.
Speaking of which, there's some brand new track on Shivering Timbers and tons of new track and NEW PROFILING on Wolverine Wildcat. Between that and the Titan track last year WW is becoming really good. Serious good ejector pops in the front row. Believe it or not it reminds me of Mystic Timbers! The last lap is still a meat grinder but it seems like it's getting a huge section of new track every year. Pretty soon it'll be brand new again. But better. I rode it when it was brand new, it's definitely becoming better.
Arrow suspended coasters pleeeeease 🤩 also yes to modern Vekomas
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I think a mach extreme spinner would also do really good at Hershey or Cedar Point. Cedar Point in particular could do something crazy with it and it just makes sense that they have that model
I feel like true 4D coasters need to have a rework before they become popular installations. Wing coasters will inherently have a bit of a rattle just by the nature of the train's design, and that shakiness is increased exponentially when you add in the rack and pinyon mechanisms that allow the seats to flip on true 4Ds. Additionally, there is so much steel involved in 4D coasters, so there would need to be some way to make the track require less material so that they can be more affordable to build. ALSO, I think the world would benefit from installing some smaller 4D coasters as well; like, on the scale that Arrow originally intended them. I think that would be the most popular iteration of the 4D coaster we would ever see, if it were to ever come to fruition.
It does seem like most US park chains have the coaster brands they like to stick to, and don't want to take risks with a new kind of ride...
On a side note, I'd love to see a video of you going over the evolution of coasters, how 20-30 years ago, it was all about breaking records and being as intense as possible, but now it seems parks are way better at making rides just plain 'fun', and don't care as much about height or speed records.
I hope Circuit Breaker opens soon and we get more Tilt Coasters soon
My home park is Gardaland...
We desperately need a new major coaster, we haven't seen one since 2015.
Now, there are a few options in my opinion, but my biggest dream would be a Mack X-treme Spinner, and considering that Merlin is working with Mack for Exodus, it may not be as impossibile as it sounds...
Merlin also loves to work with B&M, so a Surf Coaster could be another possibility, and I wouldn't mind it at all, although Gardaland deserves a truly standout coaster imo.
And if the park decides to go for a family/thrill type of ride, something like Juvelen would be absolutely amazing.
Whatever the model is going to be, I think Gardaland needs a launched. We have too many lift hills lol
They could replace blue tornado with an STC would be a major upgrade
I'd like to see more RMC Raptors. I think they're so fun, and you can fit them on a small footprint.
The Intamin vertical lift coaster model like Fahrenheit would be great. They’re so unique but they’re also small and don’t require a ton of room
I’d love to see the B&M Surf at Knott’s Berry Farm! Right over the lake across from Hang-time.
I feel like a vekoma flyer would fit perfectly on the hillside where mountain sliderwinder used to be. That part of the park is already aviation themed with Barnstormer. I’m not sure how big of a footprint an extreme spinner has, but that’s what I think Dollywood needs the most next
I feel like there are some reasons why there aren’t more of these models.
Surf coasters: Parks want to see how Pipeline performed before trying to buy one
Hyper GTX: They can’t market it nearly as much if parks
Next Gen Flying Coaster: I’m not sure, but the price could be expensive, however that is just speculation as I can’t find the price of fly anywhere
Xtreme Spinner: Very expensive considering Leviathan (the giga) cost only about $2m more than time traveler. Millie costed the park $1m less (not factoring inflation) I305 costed the park the same as Millie (to be fair, it wasn’t exactly a hit.) Even top thrill dragster costed less than time traveler (not factoring inflation.) If these parks could build a high capacity, gp magnet giga, or a spinning coaster, I think they’d opt for the giga. Now if a park like KI with a large budget and already has a giga, I could see it.
Extreme Straddle Coasters: Not sure. It feels like the only active buyer of these in America is the seaworld chain, and even then, they don’t make extreme versions. I just don’t think it fills many holes in a parks lineup or something. I’ve never been on one, so I can’t comment much on the ride experience, and I can’t find a price for any of these rides.
Intamin Megacoasters: The parks that don’t either have an old gen version or an Intamin LSM are either new parks or don’t have the budget. Energylandia got Hyperion four years after the park was built which is pretty insane, and Kondaa was Walibi Belgiums fourth coaster after Compagnie des Alpes became independent in 2005. As you guys said, Intamin launches are also probably this models biggest competitor and they are opting for that because it has a similar ride experience and they may or may not cost less and definitely take up less space.
Gerstlauer family coasters: there are twelve of these already not including one under construction and set to open in 2024. You just don’t think there are many because there aren’t many in the US
New Gen Vekoma: I just don’t think American parks trust Vekoma after their terrible excuse of an invert even though Europe is popping with these. I think we are taking a step in the right direction with big bear mountain and circuit breaker however. I am certain there will be a fair amount of these by 2030.
4D coasters: I mean they cost almost as much as Time Traveler and take up a massive plot of land. It costed 25m USD or 3.5b Japanese yen.
Id love to see more swinging suspended coasters. I recently rode Iron dragon and it was so much fun.
I would love to see more coasters like Cosmic Rewind, where there is a controlled spin that points you to what it wants you to see. I had a blast with that ride.
I think zeirer should make more drop track coasters. (Verbolten)
I wonder why there aren't more Zierer Elevated Seating Coasters in general. Verbolten is the only one in the US now (Crossbow is now in Sweden). I am not a fan of Verbolten as the ride grossly overshot the intensity for a family coaster (and the show building is an eyesore and not very good inside), but if they gave it another shot at another park (and if it had a drop track, the drop should be longer to give a decent moment of freefall rather than just a pop and a slam), I'd give that a fair evaluation.
Although you may only see them at small parks, Id love to see more El Locos pop up. They're great small footprint, small thrill rides that would be great for small parks like Wild Waves, Frontier City, Silverwood, heck even La Ronde could use something like that. And even though we probably won't ever see another Vekoma stingray again, I hope with the New Gen coaster that they revive the idea, work out the bugs and sell them off to smaller parks looking for a thrill.
What we really need are more Giovanola hypers. The fact that we have only 2 is a crime
The two we have now are shite
We need more B&M hypers. Not because they're rare, but because you can never go wrong with a B&M hyper
Having done all S&S compressed air launch coasters (except in China) we need MORE! I miss hypersonic so much at my home park. Looking at Max Force showing what they are capable of is exciting!
I LOVE SPINNING COASTERS!! I was waiting for you to mention them lol 😭
Eejanaika for me is the greatest rollercoaster ever built. I can only dream they build one in Europe, but I can't see it ever happening.
I just rode it last month!!! It is far and away the most insane experience I have had on a coaster. I rank it 2nd behind Velocicoaster only because the ride system is not the most comfortable and / or re-rideable. But honestly that first drop is like being thrown out of a moving plane in a washing machine. When I saw mount fuji upside down I knew I was riding something Elite and Special!
I think that the coaster type that we need a lot of is the launched topper track coaster. The prototype didn't work well but if given a second chance, RMC could really perfect it!
Yeah maybe with a gentler rolling launch instead
Ever been on wildfire?
I just saw the top comment saying how Disney should create a surf coaster themed to Aladdin with the flying carpet and going through the Cave Of Wonders or Arabia, since Aladdin is one of my favourite Disney movies and just one of my favourite movies I love that idea. Tokyo Disneysea has an Arabia section so maybe it could make a great spot there and just expand the Arabia section, but I’ve never been to Tokyo Disneysea or Japan in general, I also think Walt Disney World could be a great idea since I have been there (and loved it) maybe they should make an entire new park themed to Aladdin, Arabia, and The Cave Of Wonders and add a ride like that but it’s quite a crazy and big idea. I’m also just a general ride enjoyer and not any sort of critic or enthusiast when it comes to rides that I’ve been on, there are rides I love but I still dislike ones I don’t like and this Aladdin surf roller coaster idea sounds awesome. Another cool idea could be a surf coaster themed to Treasure Planet when Jim Hawkins is surfing around in the sky. Disney should really hear about an idea like this and take and if not, all y’all coaster enthusiasts can constantly BUG Disney until they eventually do it or something. Idk but I think the idea is cool and so god damn fun. 😊👍
I feel like the surf coaster is a PERFECT fit for my home park, Six Flags over Texas. Unless they want to install an Intamin blitz, which is the dream.
We need an invert here at Kennywood. A Vekoma STC would be a perfect fit for us. We work well with Sansei.
We need more Larsen Loopers by Golly, each loop larger than the last.
I'd like to see more Dinn Woodies with curvy layouts - cause less confusion for riders, maybe Dinn up that Steel Vengeance.
JK Guys, great video, I'd love to see more of all the coasters mentioned, especially the Mack Spinner Model. I think one of these would be the perfect new coaster for Holiday World soon. It has that certain vibe to it.
I would loveeee to see more Mack hyper coasters I’ve done 2 in Rivals and Hyperia and think they are increadible and hoping we get loads more!!
In terms of US, I do want to see more Gerstlauer Infinity models. I know they're starting to come now, but with their versatility, reliability, and relatively cheap cost, I want to see Infinity coasters everywhere!
For me, I think a launched inversion machine would be the perfect replacented for Volcano at KD.
I got off Eejinaika and screamed like Peter Griffin "WHY ARE WE NOT FUNDING THIS!!!"
Honestly, its a damn shame the cost (and space) is probably the biggest reason we dont have as many giga coasters overall. Like give me more Fury 325, heck, even a little more tame version of I305 would be such a huge hit with the GP. I'm just grabby hands when it comes to gigas
Ride to happiness was only actually 18 mil, which seems pretty affordable for the big chains, it would be a larger investment, but very doable for larger parks.
There needs to be more rcca wooden hypers with vertical loops
I'd LOVE to see more SFX coasters get built! My worry is the long production of Mission Ferrari will scare off US parks but i would be beyond onboard with that Avengers E-Ticket coming to Disneyland being the first SFX coaster in the US!
I’d love to see S&S revive the suspended coaster. Vortex at CW is amazing and I wish I could have gotten to ride Eagle Fortress and Bug Bad Wolf before they were dismantled.
Intamin should bring back the suspended catapult coaster! More launched inverts!!
Said it before, but I'll say it again. Cedar Point should absolutely consider replacing Corkscrew with a B&M Surf. It'd work well in that long, thin footprint if they don't add a Gerstlauer Infinity, and they can keep the iconic double corkscrew. And when Rougarou bites the dust, that'll be an insanely massive footprint for either a Mach XSC or modern Vekoma Flyer.
I could really use more boomerang coasters. 😋
My home prark is PortAventura in Spain, recently Prove Fly and I think it has been one of the best experiences I have had on a roller coaster, and in PortAventura we lack attractions of this caliber in some areas. sorry for my bad english
I do hope Universale is going to buy it. Its an incredibly nice looking park with some good coasters but man the operations and fast policy's kills the joy for me.
Just imagine Valleyfair adding something similar to Phonix and Lech Coaster to give them an elite ride I’ve been hoping for this for a long while
We Need More Gerstlauer hypercoasters Like Karnan
Great video! Quick tip and I think you already saw it, but next time put the light in a different spot. You can see it in the reflection on your main camera. Or use a big soft box.
Yeah, we've been experimenting with different lighting set ups to get the best set up- the main issue we've encountered is the posters reflect anything we put behind them, so it's been annoying to deal with. A soft box is definitely something we should consider.
Seems like the B&M Surf Coaster went instantly from "they're building what?" to "there must be more of these" once the first one opened.
The Surf Coaster and the Vekoma neo-flyer are sort of the same pattern, that they're switching from an old model of crushing people with super-extreme positive Gs to doing something more nuanced with the same basic idea.
Enthusiasts always complain that the Chance Hyper-GTX hasn't caught on, but it seems to me that's for enthusiasts, whereas the Surf Coaster has this hook that could appeal to a really broad public.
All these models you really had great insight on WHY they should be here in the states and I appreciate it. That said, when you said if you dont live in california, you may never ever even know something like x2 is around and it makes me so sad. As an enthusiast I love hearing people talk about coasters as a more GP stance. But if more people can experience a 4-D coaster, it would make me so happy.
Ps: I really hope Viper at SFMM gets the boot soon, yes its classic, yes its rough, but also on a good day you can get some great rides in....however....Its had its time to shine and my god what I would love to see on that plot of land is ENDLESSSSSSSSSSSS. Its such a beast of an area to work with and I can only imagine anything NEW GEN would just be phenomenal. After that....lets get ninja outta here and add an insane new gen vekoma terrain multi launch! lol unpopular opinion
Just give them some better padding then X2 though i have difficulty walking after 3 rides on it.
You guys are awesome!!
Slightly different but how about reviving defunct ride models with modern tech? Thinking update to the Ultra twister.
From the UK, would take any new coaster to add to those stats. Usually have to wait about 8 years between the real good additions.
Oh, there was a buzz on the audio. Just letting you know as you seem to be AV nerds :)
If the stand up coaster can be successfully revived, I don't see why the Ultra Twister or Pipeline couldn't(other than big tracksize to capacity ratio, or how easy heartlining with CAD is nowadays)
Chance Hyper GTXs would be fantastic at any small park, I prefer it to the RMC in the same park, I really want to see more of those.
Before Dollywood added Big Bear Mountain, I figured they would have added a Vekoma flyer or MACK extreme spinner
Great video! If you look at RCDB Lightning run only cost 7 million dollars. It is incredibly affordable and I think alot of smaller parks should look at investing in a coaster like it
I think the fine folks planning that park in Riyad should see this video. They love throwing money at extravagance.
I’d love for carowinds (home park) to remove night hawk and maybe vortex and replace it with a new gen vekoma flyer so that they don’t lose the effect of the flying coaster right through the entrance but replace and upgrade nighthawks (crap) experience. Also the lake night hawk is over could be even more incorporated into the flying layout.
I expected to see Sandy’s Blasting Bronco on this list! Are there more of those anywhere?
I know there is already one in Orlando but I 1000% want a Super Mario themed surf coaster at Super Nintendo World. If you have been on Pipeline you will know why.
i hope that liseberg puts spinning trains on helix
B&M already builds wing coasters. How much longer until they rotate the seats? Wing launch coaster with rotating seats. Yes please. 😊
B&M gigas are one I’d like to see more of, although I think they’re just too big and expensive for 99% of parks.
The original S&S 4D Coaster would’ve been cooler with the name Joker they really missed such a cool chance doing that for Great Adventure
You guys need to think of Yukon quad at Le pal.
I would love another flying coaster. I still miss X-Flight/Firehawk, and something akin to F.L.Y would be perfect for Cedar Point or KI.
Jet Coaster and Juvelen look so much better than Wave Breaker so I want to see more if those for sure.
2:18 I'm assuming Chance is charging a premium on the model. I'd agree it's likely the cost and/or competitors having a cheaper alternative. Or, maybe many parks don't have relationships with Chance and/or trust them enough? 7:50 It's a bummer the water effects weren't on for your ride on Yippee. It looks awesome when it's turned on.
Surprised that you didn't add intamin pre fab woodies. Sure, the upkeep is a bit difficult but the ride experience is so so different from normal woodies. I love a good rattle but having that buttery smooth experience is just so cool on a woodie that is packed with airtime.
watching this in the line for Valravn at cedar point, its a 1 hour wait
FLY got it right with what flying coasters should be. People ride them to experience the flying position rather than being on their back and disoriented from constant inversions.