We basically did in the past, albeit with other mechanical sirens. The one heard off the vintage fire truck is a Grifco 333, and it was one of the standard fire truck sirens until about the 1970s, when most of the country switched to electronic along with european sirens on some vehicles.
Twice as much as a ICE truck and after 10 years will need a battery replacement. Give me a truck with a diesel engine big water tank and ALL manual valves.
Doubt you will find any pump with manual valves these days. We replaced 5 trucks in our department last year, all Pierce rigs with waterous pump electrically driven. So much better as it's a breeze to get set up and start pumping compared to the older trucks. If you are driver like me you would love an electric pump instead of breathing in diesel exhaust while pumping. Battery life has nothing to do with age its about cycles, fire trucks will have low full cycles. Hence other evs have gone well over a million miles on the same battery. I agree on cost, for us it was $1.2m for electric vs $800k for ICE. We factored about 9k a year in fuel savings so the cost difference was not terrible but not worth it at this point. The real issue I would see he here is maintenance, that would worry me weather ICE or EV from Rosenbauer.
@@dereckjtbear2175 A truck specked out the way I would build it will operate after a EMP event/attack. While yours would be a paper weight when the country most needed it.
@breaklux3823 US diesel fire engines carry 750 gal. You need that much for rural areas for initial attack and vehicle fires. This toy doesn’t measure up.
Hahaha yeh right, they won't take off, this is a virtue signalling experiment (remember, it makes greenies and teals who would never fight a fire feel good about themselves) that has been funded by Rosenbauer throwing a truck at a small poorly funded fire service to get some publicity. It's the dictionary definition of a showbag - all bright and shiny on the outside, but full of sh!t on the inside!! How does this go at a massive 4th alarm fire where it needs to throw water through a monitor and 4 handlines for 4 -5 hours - answer, it doesn't! Fail!🙂
They tried this in indianapolis when I lived there. After a few months of people dying due to nonfunctional vehicles and massive repair bills. The city took the old diesel trucks out of moth balls refurbished them problem solved . Electricity batteries and water dont mix. By the way this is also happening with the ridiculous electric busses that leave people stranded often.
First of all, happens once in a decade at a departmental level. Second of all, these come with mobile generators to provide additional power capability for the 1 in 1000 cases where it’s needed
@@lukasgray9027 it has a built in diesel generator, that also is able to directly drive the pump, through a mechanical clutch, in case of electronics failure
It looks very nice indeed but you should consider that low autonomy and above all if it gets on fire because electrics get on fire more times than desirable it will be necessary 2 tankers at least to put it out....I wouldn't want it for me and my FF but that is just me.
That's actually one of the main takeaways from the Berlin Fire Department, where this was first tested (and proven good, 5 more engines have been ordered): the automatic shutters are destined to be broken. While they can be manually opened, so there is no fear of not being able to access equipment if its desperately needed, the gearbox from the drive motor needs to be fixed afterwards. And because of the "bar-lock" type of handles that every firefighter knows to use by heart, it's easy to assume they can in fact be opened manually.
This truck been having huge promotion all over the world...in euros,in USA and now in AU
nothing wrong about it ... actually very common with new trucks
Aus fire trucks should get the Q siren installed on the trucks you can hear it from a kilometre away.
We basically did in the past, albeit with other mechanical sirens. The one heard off the vintage fire truck is a Grifco 333, and it was one of the standard fire truck sirens until about the 1970s, when most of the country switched to electronic along with european sirens on some vehicles.
Twice as much as a ICE truck and after 10 years will need a battery replacement. Give me a truck with a diesel engine big water tank and ALL manual valves.
Doubt you will find any pump with manual valves these days. We replaced 5 trucks in our department last year, all Pierce rigs with waterous pump electrically driven. So much better as it's a breeze to get set up and start pumping compared to the older trucks. If you are driver like me you would love an electric pump instead of breathing in diesel exhaust while pumping. Battery life has nothing to do with age its about cycles, fire trucks will have low full cycles. Hence other evs have gone well over a million miles on the same battery. I agree on cost, for us it was $1.2m for electric vs $800k for ICE. We factored about 9k a year in fuel savings so the cost difference was not terrible but not worth it at this point. The real issue I would see he here is maintenance, that would worry me weather ICE or EV from Rosenbauer.
@BC-... You gotta get with times mate Or left behind with relics
These definitely won’t work in rural areas, water tank isn’t big enough.
@@dereckjtbear2175 A truck specked out the way I would build it will operate after a EMP event/attack. While yours would be a paper weight when the country most needed it.
does it carry enough water to put itself out?
It doesn't. Conventionally powered fire trucks do neither, btw.
@breaklux3823 US diesel fire engines carry 750 gal. You need that much for rural areas for initial attack and vehicle fires. This toy doesn’t measure up.
@@smorris281 That's it?
All swedish firetrucks carries more + additive for foam.
@@smorris281 The Rosenbauer RTX (North American version) can be spec'd with a 750 gallon tank.
Awesome that’s a seriously cool looking truck 😎
Hahaha yeh right, they won't take off, this is a virtue signalling experiment (remember, it makes greenies and teals who would never fight a fire feel good about themselves) that has been funded by Rosenbauer throwing a truck at a small poorly funded fire service to get some publicity. It's the dictionary definition of a showbag - all bright and shiny on the outside, but full of sh!t on the inside!! How does this go at a massive 4th alarm fire where it needs to throw water through a monitor and 4 handlines for 4 -5 hours - answer, it doesn't! Fail!🙂
They haven't got enough water on board to extinguish their own battery when it catches fire.
@@johnnz4375Not wrong!
You guys need more trucks like these I think it will make it better
They tried this in indianapolis when I lived there. After a few months of people dying due to nonfunctional vehicles and massive repair bills. The city took the old diesel trucks out of moth balls refurbished them problem solved . Electricity batteries and water dont mix. By the way this is also happening with the ridiculous electric busses that leave people stranded often.
Agree, smoke, mirrors and snake oil, with a few brown plain envelopes thrown in to grease things along.
Can it extinguish its own battery fire?
Mmmm, I mean if they have to pump for many hours at a large fire?😢
First of all, happens once in a decade at a departmental level. Second of all, these come with mobile generators to provide additional power capability for the 1 in 1000 cases where it’s needed
Electric is good to go for 2h, which is 99% of all incidents. It has a range extender , that can power the fire engine indefinitely.
@@lukasgray9027 There ya have it!
@@lukasgray9027 once in a decade? yikes imagine if you miss the once every 10 year job
@@lukasgray9027 it has a built in diesel generator, that also is able to directly drive the pump, through a mechanical clutch, in case of electronics failure
It looks very nice indeed but you should consider that low autonomy and above all if it gets on fire because electrics get on fire more times than desirable it will be necessary 2 tankers at least to put it out....I wouldn't want it for me and my FF but that is just me.
That's actually one of the main takeaways from the Berlin Fire Department, where this was first tested (and proven good, 5 more engines have been ordered): the automatic shutters are destined to be broken. While they can be manually opened, so there is no fear of not being able to access equipment if its desperately needed, the gearbox from the drive motor needs to be fixed afterwards. And because of the "bar-lock" type of handles that every firefighter knows to use by heart, it's easy to assume they can in fact be opened manually.
Awesome.... When it catches fire, it can put itself out.....
Just wait till it breaks down!
Garbage