I really enjoy the comments here. Please inform yourself before making dumb statements. This truck is in the testing procedure, so there will be some things improved in the final version. The firebrigades who are using them rn (Berlin / Amsterdam for example) say that this truck is nearly too capable. The electric System can be powered by a diesel generator when a call takes longer, but ou of 400 calls, the berlin firebrigade only had the generator turning on once, after a fire involving 7 cars. Screens have been in use on a lot of firetrucks over the last decade. the question is not buttons or screens, but userfriendly or not. there are buttons who are a piece of crap as well are there screens ;)
I'm reading most comments and just know these are American's who don't know and don't understand the capabilities of such vehicles because they only got their old hella big trucks you can't get in any backyard
Bruh have you seen the acceleration difference between a diesel motor and a electric motor? And please don't tell me they should power they're electric motors with a diesel engine, then I'd recommend thinking about efficiency. If you know this, you know how stupid it would be.
there is a power generator in every one of them, and 80l? of gas. They need to use it if action takes longer than 6h. So no. For 99% of calls they dont need to use it and they can 100% zero net. Its just in case bc who knows ;) its batter to have a plan b
its even being written on their page: There is a diesel engine auxiliary power backup system that automatically activates when the battery power goes below 20%. This is why is it is considered a "Range Extended Electric Vehicle" (REEV). That diesel system's sole purpose is to charge the batteries that run the all-electric drivetrain and pump for the duration of the call. It is estimated that over 95% of our calls will be completed prior to the batteries going below 20%.
@@PyroShields, only a diesel truck with catch fire much easier than the electric truck. If the RosenBauer catches fire, dollars to doughnuts it will be a problem with the diesel generator.
How about instead of making firetrucks that are more complex. With parts that are only made for that truck. Make a truck that is mechanically simple. With parts that are readily available (common). Not to mention with manually redundant systems. That touchscreen in nice but how long does it take to get a replacement? Especially when it's only made for that model truck.
I agree the more complex things get the harder they are to fix and on top of that there are more systems to fail especially with a emergency vehicle no matter what it is should be simple robust and very very straight forward to operate
The quest is there for the same thing in any technology that's trying to out-do the others by offering more choices. The bottom line is PROFIT. Proprietary Parts & Products = Profits. Trying for universality is SOCIALISM... which is what fire departments, police, roads, schools etc, actually are. Example of efforts toward simplicity: "A Fully Modular Laptop You Can Easily Upgrade Will Debut This Summer The Framework laptop comes from a San Francisco-based startup that's focused on creating a long-lasting and eco-friendly PC..."
Same, Our trucks did away with the big button boxes for K codes and made a tiny digital screen on the handpiece (progress) now I can hardly read the damn thing when I'm bouncing around in the cab, my ageing eyes don't help either.
I'm just not an early adopter--a bit of a skeptic. I feel like something as important as fire apparatus should be using tried and true technology. Let them make electric cement trucks for several years before investing in electric fire apparatus. My free thoughts... (you get what you pay for).
When they built these trucks I"m sure there were experts there to offer their advice what a firetruck must be capable to handle. Does this make any sense to you.
@PyroShields I understand. Sometimes experts make mistakes. I'm just sharing my thoughts. Let me ask this. What is the motive behind the electric fire apparatus? Did it originate because it performs better? Does it pump more water? Does it run longer without requiring refueling/recharging? Is it more cost effective?
@@PhoneRanger-ij4wc I'm sure you're aware how we are switching from ICE vehicles to EV's. I guess this is what you may call the pilot program. EV's do cost more so I doubt it's more cost effective. I'm not a first responder so I would not know the performance compared to diesel.
Switching from ICE to EV? Yes, some segments are experimenting with switching. I'm not sure the fire service should be one of the early places to have a "pilot program." You are aware that this vehicle still has a diesel engine onboard because the experts realize it is very possible that the electricity will give out. That is not "replacing" ICE. Again, just the opinion of an admitted skeptic.
What powers the PUMP. Theres no way its Batteries.. I wouldn't mind betting its a Diesel Engine. Can Anybody in the know Comment on this. HAS THE WORLD REALLY GONE THAT MAD 🤷♂️
Both. Usually it runs of an electric motor, but in case batteries are depleted, there is a BMW diesel engine, than can either work as generator or directly drive the pump (through the clutch).
Thankyou.. Ok MAYBE Electric Vehicles are a good thing. But an Appliance could be a (Base Pump) at a job for Hours. Electric Appliances. Are just a Waste of Tax Payers Money.
@@gregwoodward4991 well, most of American fire apparatus are already waste of taxpayers money: custom chassis, lots of chrome, gilded letters, non-standard colors etc. In Europe engine prices start from 250k and go up to 500k for some specialized ones. In the US it is quite common to see 800k or even 1M+ ones. Well, somebody has to pay for the looks...
@@gregwoodward4991 go look around. Many documents are public and easily googlable. Moreover, just found an article regarding electric Pierce: Portland payed $2.3 Millions for one engine, so in comparison Rosenbauer is actually cheap.
Getting in a tight parking space in one move to get the house fire put out before that house burned down, especially in america where a whole house can burn down in 10 Minutes
You think that Spending (1.8 Million Dollars ) Of Tax Payers Money... On ..ONE.. Fire Truck. Is the FUTURE.. When THOUSANDS of People are homeless living on the street. ..GOD HELP US ALL.. That people like you have an option. 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
@@gregwoodward4991 electric vehicles are the future weather you agree with me or not and by the way homeless people have options there’s homeless shelters, there’s organizations, and there’s the government.
@@johnhill1882 just found out, that Pierce Volterra costs 2.3M - this is crazy. And fire engines can actually be much cheaper, you just need sufficient commercial chassis.
The RTX is a piece of junk. They have class wide tank leaks, and they are severely undersprung, putting them at increased risk of rollover given their narrow, tall Euro chassis. They have limited battery range, so if they are on an extended scene a diesel generator kicks in to charge the battery and power the engine, eliminating the environmental benefits. AND they cost twice the price of conventional engines. They are just not ready for prime time!
This e-firetrucks are in service for years now in some cities around the world and have proven to work extremely well, 80% of missions purely electric. Extremely reliable and very low maintenance costs, and off course very low costs for power.
@@tedlangille there’s nothing lame about an electric vehicle… electric vehicles are the future as well as self driving cars they to are also the future.
@@tedlangille not true at all auto makers are still manufacturing and selling electric vehicles the only people who have hate towards electric vehicles are the older people us young people between the ages of 18 and 35 are all in favor of electric vehicles as well as switching to renewable energy sources… moving away from oil, coal, and natural gas should be our goal as Americans 🇺🇸 we Americans should be thinking about the future.
@@tedlangillea lot of young people including me support electric cars as well as renewable energy and yes we can move on and stop using oil, coal, and natural gas if we we put effort into it and switch to renewable energy.
No, you have to put some water on and then get as much foam on them as you can, then you put it on a roll-off container and fill that container up for water.
I really enjoy the comments here. Please inform yourself before making dumb statements. This truck is in the testing procedure, so there will be some things improved in the final version. The firebrigades who are using them rn (Berlin / Amsterdam for example) say that this truck is nearly too capable. The electric System can be powered by a diesel generator when a call takes longer, but ou of 400 calls, the berlin firebrigade only had the generator turning on once, after a fire involving 7 cars. Screens have been in use on a lot of firetrucks over the last decade. the question is not buttons or screens, but userfriendly or not. there are buttons who are a piece of crap as well are there screens ;)
You have to go through 20 comments to find one decent comment. We live in an idiocracy world.
I'm reading most comments and just know these are American's who don't know and don't understand the capabilities of such vehicles because they only got their old hella big trucks you can't get in any backyard
I'm actually wondering what they would say if they would see a rosenbauer panther😂
I bet it's a blast to drive. The one pedal drive is a nice feature.
love the long light on the sides (idk what they're called)
Lightrails
nice austrian Firetruck!
damn. Nvidia RTX 5090 is smaller than i imagined it would be
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Thank you for this awesome Video!
Is this AC or DC charging?
Cautiously optomistic. Looking forward to seeing followups on actual performance. Good stuff!
It has a diesel engine as well. The LA folks don’t charge theirs. Just run it on diesel.
😂
Bruh have you seen the acceleration difference between a diesel motor and a electric motor? And please don't tell me they should power they're electric motors with a diesel engine, then I'd recommend thinking about efficiency. If you know this, you know how stupid it would be.
nice. video of it pumping?
They are going to need an electric car charger at every fire hydrant
there is a power generator in every one of them, and 80l? of gas. They need to use it if action takes longer than 6h. So no. For 99% of calls they dont need to use it and they can 100% zero net. Its just in case bc who knows ;) its batter to have a plan b
its even being written on their page:
There is a diesel engine auxiliary power backup system that automatically activates when the battery power goes below 20%. This is why is it is considered a "Range Extended Electric Vehicle" (REEV). That diesel system's sole purpose is to charge the batteries that run the all-electric drivetrain and pump for the duration of the call. It is estimated that over 95% of our calls will be completed prior to the batteries going below 20%.
What is the fire department supposed to do when thier electric fire truck catches on fire
Same thing they will do if their diesel trucks catch on fire.
@@PyroShields, only a diesel truck with catch fire much easier than the electric truck. If the RosenBauer catches fire, dollars to doughnuts it will be a problem with the diesel generator.
Wow all new electric fire trucks Rtx nice sound Good 👍👏💯⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👏🇺🇸 usa you stay safe out there across America nice work 😎
All the gadgets hammer the range
How about instead of making firetrucks that are more complex. With parts that are only made for that truck. Make a truck that is mechanically simple. With parts that are readily available (common). Not to mention with manually redundant systems. That touchscreen in nice but how long does it take to get a replacement? Especially when it's only made for that model truck.
I agree the more complex things get the harder they are to fix and on top of that there are more systems to fail especially with a emergency vehicle no matter what it is should be simple robust and very very straight forward to operate
@@robertmoncur3781 Do you refer to Tesla or Apple?
The quest is there for the same thing in any technology that's trying to out-do the others by offering more choices. The bottom line is PROFIT. Proprietary Parts & Products = Profits. Trying for universality is SOCIALISM... which is what fire departments, police, roads, schools etc, actually are. Example of efforts toward simplicity: "A Fully Modular Laptop You Can Easily Upgrade Will Debut This Summer
The Framework laptop comes from a San Francisco-based startup that's focused on creating a long-lasting and eco-friendly PC..."
Well, in the US most of them use custom low volume chassis anyway (Pierce, Spartan etc ).
How long can the EV fire engine pump. Avoid like the plague.
Who puts out the fire when the fire truck batteries explode?
Fantastic piece of kit. Just prey your house doesn’t catch fire while this beast is at the start of a charge cycle.
That's why you charge it at all times unless its on a call.
Nice thing about this truck is, when batteries catch fire, you don’t need to find a fire truck else where 😂
ur lame af.
.....after 40+ years in Service...my thinking is Firetrucks need "switches" not "screens" 🤗
Same, Our trucks did away with the big button boxes for K codes and made a tiny digital screen on the handpiece (progress) now I can hardly read the damn thing when I'm bouncing around in the cab, my ageing eyes don't help either.
You can't teach an old dog new tricks.
@@PyroShieldsYou have to get a yound dog to teach him new tricks, which is the reason why they "buildt" a new dog. Very cool
Sounds like a washing mashine
A bit too much latency on the screen for my liking. But otherwise very nice!
Would this inspire a 'Next Generation' of firefighters? Soooo many screens...
Vancouvers new electric truck not working after 1 month of service
Lot's of things too fail and break
I'm just not an early adopter--a bit of a skeptic. I feel like something as important as fire apparatus should be using tried and true technology. Let them make electric cement trucks for several years before investing in electric fire apparatus. My free thoughts... (you get what you pay for).
When they built these trucks I"m sure there were experts there to offer their advice what a firetruck must be capable to handle. Does this make any sense to you.
@PyroShields I understand. Sometimes experts make mistakes. I'm just sharing my thoughts. Let me ask this. What is the motive behind the electric fire apparatus? Did it originate because it performs better? Does it pump more water? Does it run longer without requiring refueling/recharging? Is it more cost effective?
@@PhoneRanger-ij4wc I'm sure you're aware how we are switching from ICE vehicles to EV's. I guess this is what you may call the pilot program. EV's do cost more so I doubt it's more cost effective. I'm not a first responder so I would not know the performance compared to diesel.
Switching from ICE to EV? Yes, some segments are experimenting with switching. I'm not sure the fire service should be one of the early places to have a "pilot program." You are aware that this vehicle still has a diesel engine onboard because the experts realize it is very possible that the electricity will give out. That is not "replacing" ICE. Again, just the opinion of an admitted skeptic.
What powers the PUMP.
Theres no way its Batteries..
I wouldn't mind betting its a Diesel Engine.
Can Anybody in the know Comment on this.
HAS THE WORLD REALLY GONE THAT MAD 🤷♂️
Both. Usually it runs of an electric motor, but in case batteries are depleted, there is a BMW diesel engine, than can either work as generator or directly drive the pump (through the clutch).
Thankyou..
Ok MAYBE Electric Vehicles are a good thing.
But an Appliance could be a (Base Pump) at a job for Hours.
Electric Appliances.
Are just a Waste of Tax Payers Money.
@@gregwoodward4991 well, most of American fire apparatus are already waste of taxpayers money: custom chassis, lots of chrome, gilded letters, non-standard colors etc. In Europe engine prices start from 250k and go up to 500k for some specialized ones. In the US it is quite common to see 800k or even 1M+ ones. Well, somebody has to pay for the looks...
@solarissv777
THANKYOU for your reply.
800k ..
OH MY GOD !!
Are you SERIOUS
@@gregwoodward4991 go look around. Many documents are public and easily googlable. Moreover, just found an article regarding electric Pierce: Portland payed $2.3 Millions for one engine, so in comparison Rosenbauer is actually cheap.
That salesman needs to keep BOTH hands on the wheel when he's moving
What is the benefit of a crabwalking fire truck? Nothing?
Getting in a tight parking space in one move to get the house fire put out before that house burned down, especially in america where a whole house can burn down in 10 Minutes
What could possibly go wrong with this fine pumper? LOL.
No thanks. Take a hard pass on that.
A stupid solution to a non- problem. Hopefully soon we'll wakeup from this dystopian net zero nightmare.
Is it worth 1.8 Million?
Yes an electric vehicle is worth the 1.8 million dollars electric vehicles are the future.
You think that Spending (1.8 Million Dollars ) Of Tax Payers Money...
On ..ONE.. Fire Truck. Is the FUTURE..
When THOUSANDS of People are homeless living on the street.
..GOD HELP US ALL..
That people like you have an option.
🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
@@gregwoodward4991 electric vehicles are the future weather you agree with me or not and by the way homeless people have options there’s homeless shelters, there’s organizations, and there’s the government.
Most pumpers
start around $700K now. Ladder trucks are $1M plus. Nothing is cheap in the fire service.
@@johnhill1882 just found out, that Pierce Volterra costs 2.3M - this is crazy. And fire engines can actually be much cheaper, you just need sufficient commercial chassis.
Hmmm... doesn't this "electric" truck also have a diesel engine for backup? Terrible waste of money IMO.
The RTX is a piece of junk. They have class wide tank leaks, and they are severely undersprung, putting them at increased risk of rollover given their narrow, tall Euro chassis. They have limited battery range, so if they are on an extended scene a diesel generator kicks in to charge the battery and power the engine, eliminating the environmental benefits. AND they cost twice the price of conventional engines. They are just not ready for prime time!
I'M not sure the extra diesel exhaust is going to be much of a concern since YOU'RE AT A FIRE!!!!
Where I work truck exhausts have set garbage cans/recycling next to the rig on fire.
I've seen crash victims gasp for air from their exhaust. I think they park further away from the crash now for that
Lame
How is an electric vehicle lame ???
This e-firetrucks are in service for years now in some cities around the world and have proven to work extremely well, 80% of missions purely electric. Extremely reliable and very low maintenance costs, and off course very low costs for power.
@@tedlangille there’s nothing lame about an electric vehicle… electric vehicles are the future as well as self driving cars they to are also the future.
@@tedlangille not true at all auto makers are still manufacturing and selling electric vehicles the only people who have hate towards electric vehicles are the older people us young people between the ages of 18 and 35 are all in favor of electric vehicles as well as switching to renewable energy sources… moving away from oil, coal, and natural gas should be our goal as Americans 🇺🇸 we Americans should be thinking about the future.
@@tedlangillea lot of young people including me support electric cars as well as renewable energy and yes we can move on and stop using oil, coal, and natural gas if we we put effort into it and switch to renewable energy.
When the battery catches fire and turns into a blow torch with highly toxic fumes. You'll need to run away for days until it stops
No, you have to put some water on and then get as much foam on them as you can, then you put it on a roll-off container and fill that container up for water.