EDIT: (7/10/2021): OKAY SOME *HUUUUUUUUUGE* Information just got dropped so I will be delaying the Super Special Hunter Video most likely to late tonight OR Tomorrow morning. The information was that game changing so I have to retool my video to incorporate it, since it is honestly ridiculously good stuff. Sorry for the delays! Apologies for the wonky audio at points! Still learning how to use my mic! Also the community discord is now live so feel free to join and say hi or lurk! Discord: discord.gg/2fc7Daj72b Twitch: www.twitch.tv/everydere Twitter: twitter.com/everydere
If you like close range and being right in the thick of the fight, gunner is the pp management sub class you should use. If you prefer long range and avoiding fights then you want force as your pp management class.
I was thinking of doing Hunter as main and sub as Fighter so I can use all the melee weapons I like. Sword, dual blades, gloves, spear. If not that then Hunter and Techniker. Only problem is, I don't like passives or skills the drain def or HP to improve atk, so I'm not gonna turn those on.
Yup! I was getting a lot of questions about subclasses from you and others, so I decided to do a quick rundown of all the subclasses since my videos usually ended with a vague "It's your personal preference" *leaves without elaborating* LOL
Lasers go *BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR* RaFo is seriously one of my favorite combinations in this game from how freakin awesome it is in the PP department! Lasers ftw!
I used to play Erwin in Soulworker, so I main Gunner/Ranger now to fill the niche of the character. I loving it, and the fact that Ranger also have Spread Shot, I can spend my Gunner point into PP recovery
Ohhh how is Soulworker now? I saw that it had a re-release under the company on Steam but I didn't really try it out yet. Also! GuRa is super fun and I love how spread shot is shared so we can just take it on the Ranger Tree vs the Gunner Tree!
@@everydere yeah, the game was initially published by Gameforge previously, but was shut down and re-release under the original company. It seems the game in a better condition now, however, after gameforge version was shut down, all progress are wiped and can't be carried over, so I'm tired of playing all over again. that's why I'm trying PSO2 NGS now. And honestly I'm glad I did, it have so much freedom. No Class locked & No Gender locked. It's all I ever wanted so far
@@totallynotacat9761 Oof that sounds super scuffed, didn't know it was gameforge as the initial publisher. I haven't had that many good experiences with game forge OTL. I'll definitely try out the new published SoulWorker since I havent tried it. Also glad you're able to play NGS and enjoy it! The game's only going to get better the further we get with updates =D! Although I hope SEGA implements a free shop pass through some points soon, since it was taken out of the FUN scratch right before NGS drop.
I have a level 20/20 RaGu (the sweet sauce bois) and have multi-weapon'd Rifle/Launcher, Launcher/TMG, TMG/Wired Lance. I absolutely love it. I think RaFo will probably be the best class once we have unlocked all of the spells -- like Zanverse, for "Our DPS". Great video!
Dude RaFo is so strong, I'm actually scared for once we get Zanverse on it LOL. I think it's going to completely decimate everything once you can zanverse from across the wordl + Fear erase. Thankies for sharing your class combos by the way!
I played around with Te/Ra using status reduction and the Deband status reduction with a Launcher/Talis multiweapon to use the Talis Weapon Action to fuel PP regen for Fear Eraser with Geant units. Has been pretty fun and gives Techter some much needed sustained damage consistency. Also the boosted Resta is nice for topping back up with one resta after getting punched in the face during Fear Eraser.
Ohhh I've seen a lot of TeRas recently in my UQs and they're all amazing! Techter's such a sick class from all the different combos you can do with it. My build is mostly focused on purely TeFo but I might switch where I placed the talis skills back onto my Techter
I am using Te/Fo on my Main. I have 7 Characters and since one of my alts is dedicated to the role of the mage (Force), I basically "butchered" the Force Skilltree fully for my Techter Main and I think personally that this benefits me the most and I have fun with it. :) Good overview! This definetly helps new players and all of the people who are not sure what to pick! ^^
Yeah butchering the force tree for me, really helped out my Techter Tree + other classes where I use Force as a pure subclass (no rod). I did purchase a second skill tree though just in case I want to play purely force and figure some cool stuff out. Thanks for the feedback by the way! Today was supposed to be a hunter in depth breakdown, but I went with a subclass video since a lot of people were asking about subclasses.
i mostly use gunner and force as subclasses also. i main fighter knuckles mainly because i was roleplaying as a punching kinda character, but have since tried out other weapons and found myself still really liking the knuckles. maybe its just the sound it makes when i hit things being super satisfying, idk. anyway, my playstyle is heavily focused on relentless attacking, so i butchered my gunner skill tree by putting everything into offensive PP recovery so i never have to pause even for a moment to get PP back to cast fighter PAs. it also helps that with a gunner as my sub, i can equip a rifle that lets me make up for knucke's lack of AoE and difficulty with very high targets (like pettas vera when they are flying) (oh, i also sometimes play ranger and techter to fill roles when i go for UQs, and force is for those two)
Yeah I end up doing the same playstyle as you when I use knuckles aka super aggressive attacking. Rifle I find compliments the playstyle so much especially for AoE since homing darts is pretty damn good! For me I mainly chose knuckles since I could shoryuken tbh LMAO
Thankies! Also it's called "* Junkyard Dog" , you can obtain it from the OG PSO2 Player shops still, it came from the Blazing Beats Scratch (This is guilty gear x blazblue) so it may be a liiiittle pricy. I would recommend to do your weeklies on OG PSO2 until you hit meseta needed overtime since a lot of people won't be relisting their OG PSO2 stuff. Hope that helps you out!
i kinda messed up my skill tree at the very beginning of the game, so i bought that skillbook thingy ;-; and this video saves TONS of people who face the same problem with me, thanks a lot good sir edit: now i have Hunter as my one-and-only subclass, since it gives a lot of survivability and i love braindeadly facetanking enemy attacks
TL;DR (first I am not an expert, and I didn’t proofread, watch the video to get complete understanding). Subclass is for the passives and photon arts. Since the game is still in its early stages, don’t commit all you skill points into a build for a subclass unless you are 100% certain. Resetting pass is hard to come by or will cost money. All suggested build are on the video. Disclaimer, subclasses really should just be what fits your play style and what is fun. Force: Natural PP gain, downed enemy, or charging PA, you get PP. Gunner: Active PP again, ever hit means you get PP Fighter: 5% damage increase. You can specialize in one weapon at your own risk Techter: can match weak element, awake sole will give a chance of PP gain Hunter: Damage resistance due to iron will and hunter physique. Ranger: decrease status ailments effects. Tips on choosing subclass: choose the weapon you want to use that your main class can’t. Then choose on the active/passives you want (based on the descriptions above and your own experience). Finally how fun do you find the combo. I didn’t not proofread this, not am I an expert. Just thought this could help people.
Yup this is a great TL;DR! And to add upon this: Braver: Access to Bow/Katana Brave Combats & HP Regen on knockdown recovery. Bouncer: Access to Jet Boots/SB's Fanatic Blade. Fanatic Blade was nerfed for multi-weps due to it *completely breaking the game* . Jet Boots is the main reason for Bo sub, since you'll be able to do combinations like TeBo and use Jet Boots exclusively over your wand/talis.
Techer / Fighter. Main weapon is talis / DS multi wep. I play this so I can shifta / deband my friends, aoe heal, and eley down. I primarily use talis for dps, but during down phases swap to DS to dump pp for big dmg. DS photon blast is stronger than techer's talis blast and you can dealdy archer right after since it gives you full whirlwind from photon. Also since talis is forced to use dodge I can bind DS block to use that instead of dodge sometimes. I currently have a resi talis / ds jsut because I was debating between dagger and DS when I was making the talis. The vialto with a fixa attack woudl likely be better. My armor is affixed for hybrid damage so I have about +20% to both attack types. (using 3 of the tech + melee red box armors). Obv I'm not max damage, but this lets me swap and use DS really well, which is more fun than just using talis (or wand).
Oooo I haven't seen a Talis+DS multi yet, that sounds really sick! Also I 100% build my classes based on fun/QoL over max damage as well LOL. With all the combinations in the game, and how the majority are just within 1-3% difference, there's so much variety to do in this game that it's great. I hope SEGA moving forward keeps all the possibilities for class combos viable!
Personally i only put 1 point into pp conversion since anything more is very overkill and I barely need to use it anyway Instead I put the points into rod counter weapon action skills so I can multiweapon with talis and still hv a counter that also increase elemental down charge with elemental bullets And for my main class techter tree I just got all the passive skills and shifts deband
Yooo that's actually smarter than what I did! I tested out 3/5 PP convert and it's still virtually the same as 1/5. Since I have some extra skill tree passes i'll probably do that for the Talis+Rod wep action. (I've been using wand for the parry action, but Elemental Bullet would be 90x more helpful). Thanks for sharing!
I do Te/Fo as well, but I find the 5/5 conversion vital when going for Barta/Zonde effects, or during burst phases or the Photon Energy Bursts in combat zones. It basically lets me spam my spells/smash literally infinitely, even despite the fact I am charging my spell every so often. At 1/5, I would still spend about a third of every phase attacking to get PP back. As for counter with elemental, I have the Wand counter that causes rage to trigger and simply ignored the more or less useless parts of the Shifta/Deband tree (the revive one, time extender, and party range one), all of which really are over kill on a skill that naturally has a 90second duration, a generous AoE that lasts for 5 seconds on the ground, and only 15 seconds of CD. Its easy enough to drop it a couple seconds after your get in range of the boss, and give other melee ample time to get into the AoE. It is also simple enough to segue towards where the ranged characters (really should be) stacked, to drop the buff on them every so often during a movement phase. In the combat maps, its really simple to just drop it either in a central location at the start of every encounter or in the middle of the path everyone else will have to walk into to pick it up. In either scenario, if someone is failing to get buffed, I really consider that to be on them at that point, because I can't see their buff status, but they can. If they aren't actively doing what they need to do to keep it up, despite the generous windows of opportunity the S/D skill naturally offers, they are the ones doing something wrong.
@@everydereHonestly, no. Revoke seems like it would be completely useless, since its not like elements actually heal things. I skipped that point without even a thought. The Talis revoke seems like it may be useful if you are a legit talis main, but I simply revoke by using a Wand PA or attack with the wand. And yeah, I agree about buffing. This game does not follow the trinity, and there are no dedicated support classes. As a Techter, we simply sacrifice a bit of mobility and a bit of burst DPS for a hell of a lot of utility - party buffs and the only class in the game that can reliably do part damage, add to the knockdown meter, and elemental down meter at the same time. Our job is not to make sure that everyone else is constantly buffed, regardless of what they are doing, but to do damage and buff when we can. Was in a UQ fighting the dragon boss a couple days ago, and by chance we had 4 techters and no ranger. I was a little worried about how that was gonna go, until we ended up downing and/or shocking the boss through over half the fight.
@@ianwells7916 Dude my last UQ like a couple days ago was 4 Techters all of them TeHu + 1 Ranger and me on Hunter, and it was the fastest UQ I've ever had LOL.
Ra/Fo for sure. Nothing beats infinite eraser in a PSE burst. Want that burst to last basically forever? Get 2 or 3 and cross the streams. This laser spam has the bonus side effect of insane blast generation. Fi/Hu is a close second for me when I want a more action-packed experience. DR is just nice on fighter, bonus having no increased damage taken for overload AND no knockback so you can focus on doing all that single target DPS and ignore the hits you might be not so good at swaying yet. Some say it has not so great PP efficiency but that can be fixed with food buffs.
Yup! RaFo is hella hype! And FiHu is my second as well, a lot of people really don't value the extra damage reduction but it REALLY helps for times you're not playing completely perfectly. I run the same setup for PP efficiency as well through my food
Fighter main, I usually sub gunner when I am feeling to fly around with daggers and sometimes force whenever I use Double Saber since Double Saber has alot of Iframes and during s natural pp recovs are nice 🤣
I do the same! FiGu for TDs and FiFo for DS LOL! It really works out super well having two different PP options. Edit: On knuckles, I end up switching between the two depending on what im doing as well
I would try knuckles but am out of resources to unlock the potencial, plus there is no Straga Knuckles🤣🤣 Yes am Living on the edge 3 Geant Armors and Lvl 3 Straga Potency🤫
Same! I've been doing HuFo/HuGu, I find when I use partizan HuGu works out better for me, but if I'm doing Sword+WL HuFo works better for me, since I can pop PP convert and dump 6 calibur streaks + more in one burst phase
I go with Fi/Ra. Not for anything other than the utility of having ranged weapons where needed for farming purposes. Waiting for Braver to make that the main so I can utilize Bows and Katana's alongside Fighter as my sub
Sick combination! I'm waiting for Braver too because I REALLY want to combine it with other weapons. I'm still trying to decide between BrFo/BrFi or BrHu for which braver I'ma do. One more monthh! Also Bouncer with fighter will probably be sick as well once that drops!
The skill trees at this stage of the game seem pretty simple, like you can easily unlock every skill for every weapon choice and still put a bunch extra into the passive boosts. The difference between each point in the passive boost is pretty negligible too, so you might as well have all the gameplay stuff first and foremost so that when you play that class it works as it's supposed to. Ranger is easily the worst subclass (just too circumstantial, I've only had an ailment one time thus far) unless you want its weapons, i.e. the LAUWNCHER. You can still get assault rifle off of gunner. So that's literally it, the launcher.
Yup, for my force tree I'm buying a second one since I have one tree for TeFo specifically, and another for Force shenanigans. But even if you don't focus ALL your points into that, there's enough points in Force to get all the skills along with pretty decent PP natural recovery AND *you still have PP Convert + PP Eradication Gain* which makes it insanely great! Honestly, I think SEGA will end up adding more SP down the line which will make choices less different.
Bad condition ward and reduction was very useful for me since im a fighter main and I use 3 geant units. Makes the status ailments not so noticeable/annoying
Since PSO2NG is coming to PS4/5 in August, I'm gonna join. I plan on playing thru the old PS02 content before NG, but I still think hunter will be my main class if not fighter. I never like tanking over speed, but since Hunter is still decent with speed, I'm gonna try it for the power. Play the swords look great. What I'm wondering about is if I play the old content before NG and pick Hunter and fighter as sub, does that mean they'll be bosses that as flying high out of reach I can hit? This happened in Portable 1 and 2 and I think in Universe. Sometimes the game forced you to play a mage or shooter to hit the target while it was hiding or flying far away in the air. In NG it seem you can always reach the foes even with just melee if you master jump and attacking. But what about the old days in the earlier content?
Thank you for your video, I have just subscribed ! Now, I am only using Fi as a sub-class to benefit for more down potency and a better PP management. I will definitely try Gu and Fo for more PP boosts as a Hu or a Bo. I wonder though, how useful a Hu can be as a sub-class for a Bo ? Hunter Physique can be really useful for the anti-knockback it provides, especially to protect you for combo interruption. Furthermore, I have specialized myself in the use of elemental weapons (Glissen, Flamel... not Frostal since there was no Frostal Sword and Bo was basically not out yet) and I will certainly get the Wind weapons on both of my main classes. The idea being to have a large elements coverage while fighting heavily on melee rather than casting spells. For now, the choices are limited but I will get more options and more opportunities to make use of my sub-palettes with time. Thank you again for your content, I will check more for sure ! :)
Thank you! BoHu should work out pretty well especially as a training tool as you get adjusted to the playstyle. Jet Boots and Soaring Blades as of the Retem update, have realllly good defensive options on top of offensive uses. Also specializing in Elemental weapons sounds sick af, Im really hoping SEGA ends up an affix or new upgrade option that'll allow us to imbue elements onto our weapons. For the actual subclass I use, I actually stick with BoFi or BoFo since the tech skills can be shared with a Fo subclass.
I do like going Force/Ranger. Was working on Hunter subclass as well so I have a Foursis rod Multiweapon with a Foursis Wire added on. Since I am working on leveling ranger in the subclass slot, its been useful. I got all ranges in a pinch. Seldom ever need to use PP Gain in Force. Keep basic attack set for mouse 2, rod weapon action on 3. Spam whichever element tech I need. Them use the AOE of the wired lance to gain back some PP rapidly while dealing damage. And if course I still have a foursis Rifle Rod multi in another slot since Ranger is current subclass. So, I have options.
@@everydere I can agree there. I suppose this was a balance to avoid OP behavior. Though it least you can do this with the Resurgir line. Though you do mot get the same Potential bonuses.
@@Terra-Quattuor Yup Resurgir we can do it annnd I was hoping the new Glissen would allow us to as well (Since it is a 3* event series), but unfortunately it doesnt T_T. I woulda loved a lightning Rifle
@@everydere We can wait and see if more Glissen items will be added for week 2, unless another element comes after. This may have been done, again, for balancing. Lightning daggers would have been, woof
Okay, two questions... 1: Is it okay to just take on the passives from the subclass but maintain use of the main class weapon(s)? I'm not really good at switching between weapon styles. (i.e melee to ranged or vice versa) I tried it with my Hunter going between my sword and wire lances. Not fun. 2: What would you say is the best subclass for a Force by way of damage boosts?
So to answer your questions! (Sorry for the late reply) 1. Yes it is 100% okay to just take on the passives from the subclass! For Hunter specifically in your case, you can multi-weapon Sword+Wired Lance at the weapon upgrade areas. This allows you to seamlessly switch between the two weapons at a cost of around ~200k meseta. IMO though, 9/10 times I just stick with one weapon and ignore switching between attack types. This is completely feasible to do too since in Retem there's not a lot of times where an aerial gap closer is really needed. 2. Absolute best subclass right now and strongest class combo in the game is FoBo ( Force with Bouncer subclass), max out the bouncer subclasses' downed damage multipliers and Force will pretty much delete everything in the game.
@@everydere Cool! Thanks so much. And it's cool about the late replies. I'm playing on three different characters. Hunter, Gunner and Force. if I have to look for help on one I just set it aside and play as the other two until I find what i need. I gave my Hunter a Force subclass for faster PP restore and my Gunner has a Hunter subclass for more durability.
@@shadowjudge921 Ooo those are some solid choices. For me personally I've ended up maining Gunner so I've been running GuBo/GuFo primarily for either PP or more downed states. I used to run GuHu back when the game launched so I could use TMGs+Swords and it was reallly fun too LOL. HuFo I ended up playing a loooot of until Retem's drop and then I went back to playing Gunner. IMO I think HuFo is probably one of my favorite class combos in the game especially with the new PAs that just dropped.
Fi/Ra but use Launcher as main weapon because testing if my damage will increase using overload even do subclass get 10% damage reduce but affix all precision
I believe overload does apply to your subclass weapons, so on Fighter it would come out to be a net gain on Burst(Downed) phases? Since you'll have 115% Defeat Advantage + 120% Overload, vs Ranger's 105% Defeat Advantage + 10% Main weapon potency + Blight Rounds if you place it on too (Assuming you do RaFi vs FiRa). Excited to hear what your testing comes out to!
@@everydere I think it is main class weapons only. The text says main class and fighter weapons. But you REALLY need to be careful with it since the big thing with fear eraser is, well, you are GOING to eat damage if you want max uptime. So that extra damage taken can significantly hinder your DPS if you are constantly having to cut it short to avoid death where without that you could have just tanked the hit. EDIT/Update: it does not seem to apply to non-fighter weapons. Just tested on my Fi/Hu attacking with a hunter weapon with and without overload showed no change. Against the particular enemy with a base 4* I was doing 63-76ish damage on the first sword swing and after activating overload I was still doing about that much albeit it was harder to keep track of since I also had to focus on not dying with overload up lol. So unfortunately all you are doing by using your sub weapon as the main weapon is hurting the main weapon's damage against things that are not down AND not being able to self-apply blight.
Hello wanted to ask about multi weapons for sub class, umm does the augments and potentials of the main weapon affect the sub weapon like for example TMG being the main and sword being the sub?
So I believe, and anyone can correct me on this, the potential definitely affects your sub weapon, however augments are a different case. If you apply Precision III for example, it affects TMGS,Launchers,Rifles on your multiweapon, but not the Sword portion of your multiweapon. This is because Precision III/Might III/Casting III apply *only to Ranged/Melee/Technique weapons* so they would have to match. I think in the future, SEGA will probably implement some more raw potency augments probably around Braver's drop, to even out the hybrid weapons augmenting. Hope that helps you out!
i honestly don’t care about sub THAT much when i play fi, pp conversion from fo can be helpful but if you’re using knuckle and can get in some consistent counter then pp management should not be a problem. I do wish the br skill tree can come with passive crit boost like in the base pso2 but at this point i don’t think it’ll be possible since that passive boost will literally make br the go-to sub for everything else, and i assume that’s not what sega wants. maybe when they expand the skill trees we will be seeing those skills to appear, idk right now ngs doesn’t have a class as a subclass with skills that add on to your main class offense capability except fi. with that being said i feel like picking a subclass is basically for the weapons that class uses and some minor stuff that comes with the subclass.
Yeah I'm super curious tbh what Braver is going to add for their subclass skills, we have potentially Crit Boost or Weak Potency Boost (I'm assuming this would replace Weak Stance). And both of those would be too game changing and make it the main subclass LOL. I agree too where I think SEGA is trying to promote making subclasses basically minimal to the point you just use the weapons themselves, over the actual class skills. I think going forward, we'll probably get some more clear choices, but at the same time I 100% can see SEGA just keeping our subclass skills the same as it is right now (Super minor increases that barely change gameplay).
@@everydere well it could be possible that br has some good passive skills, from what we can see in the trailer katana combat becomes the pb for katana, rapid fire becomes the default shot pattern on bow so points for those skills are gone, given some skill points on katana counter buff and the possible banish arrow skill on bow (i saw some arrows lingering on the enemy in the trailer that’s why i think there can possibly be a discount banish combo) i think there should be 5 or so extra skill points if we maxed out the weapon-related skill points. maybe it will have that recov skill from the base pso2, or sega can totally butcher the possibility of br as a subclass by giving it some mediocre passives lol
@@XDD50Hz Oh god I just realized what if SEGA actually allows banish arrow to work with non-arrow attacks LMAO. Rise of the old OG PSO2 TeBr Rikauteri setup where you use ilbarta + banish to create instant death to a single target. Although I think SEGA may try to prevent that considering Chain Trigger only works with purely TMGs now.
@@everydere yeah, sega seem to be limiting the skill synergy within the weapon by itself rather than cross-weapon, fair enough but they really need to iron out the skills since rn CT has a long list on what can glitch out itself, so if banishing combo will ever be a thing then it better not be as glitchy🤦♂️
The multi weapons I’m sort of disappointing on the system as far as right now because some of the weapons that I want to multi weapon with they are not available because they don’t have a rifle maybe more other weapons of that particular weapon but mainly I’m noticing there’s not much rifles like the giga bosses drop they don’t drop any new rifle which I really hope they add soon because I have a sweet launcher that I got off of one I want to get some crazy battle point on my character but I can’t if I don’t have the rifle to multi weapon with my launcher🙁 I have Ranger is my main and force as my sub just felt like a little rant though love the game but I really hope they improve it soon
Dude I 10000000% understand, I have the same exact gripes about the multi-weapon system. It went pretty well until we hit 4*s and realized weapons had to be in the same series. I REALLY hope SEGA eventually just makes every series like Resurgir where it has ALL weapons, so we can actually make some cool combos. One of the combos I really enjoy is legit only tied to Resurgir + the Glissen series (Sword+ WL). But both aren't that optimal for me to use *F* compared to Cattelya/Straga. I love the game too but mannn it really needs be changed later down the line LOL
as a Fighter main, and in my perspective, it's easier to learn the pattern and try to press the weapon action a split-second before the monster attack (because most of the weapons' activation are there) hope that helps!
It's pretty much down to learning the battle pattern, but best place to try and learn the parry timing would be to head to the Cocoon "Defeat the Enhanced Enemy". Usually I time my parries to be .25-.5s before the attack connects for it to work. Hope that helps you out!
Depends on the weapon. They all have different windows. For fighter and hunter weapons you kinda just have to learn what the attacks look like and it becomes more prediction parry than reaction. The best enemy I have found that really showcases this is (whatever the double blade-arm enemy is) since it has very obvious patterns but also some timings that make reaction parry harder than just knowing what it is going to do. For ranged attacks it is just do it a moment before the attack would connect, careful though as many ranged enemies have follow-up attacks that seem to be timed to catch you right at the end of the animation where you have infinite hyper armor but no i-frames. I have eaten a lot of damage due to this and I really think it needs a rework.
I've rather been enjoying using Ranger as a sub the past few days with my Force main, slightly backwards from the norm I'm aware.. most have talked with say to swap them. I had been using Hunter sub for wire-lances and though I miss them a bit, not as much as I thought I would as the homing darts are really great mobbing in some ways better in terms of effiency I'm finding, like less pp used an such.. though the "Laso" move with the wire-lance is a bit quicker for active normal attack PP regeneration I feel.. don't got any hard data on which is "actually better by the numbers" lol. still get'n the hang ofthe skills and how to weave rifle and/or launcher with my Rod.
If you multiweapon your main weapon with wired lance you can still use the weapon action even without a Hunter sub. You only need a Hunter sub for PAs.
Yeah homing darts are really really great and fun! It's hard for me to find out which one is better by the numbers too since Force at any point gives you eradication PP gain on nearby enemy death for AoE. Overall glad you're enjoying the game and have a pretty cool combo!
Oh dailies! Since honestly speaking, there is super limited content on NGS at the moment). Bare minimum I do is dailies to keep my classes leveling (this also prevents burn out too!)
Until braver is released I main techer and gunner im not sure of it works this way but the reason why I use techer and gunner is cause of the shifta and deband and the range damage and tech damage and melee damage if it works that way at least. I use the machine pistols for range damage then tech damage to knock the enemy down then I hit them with matching element wand melee attacks. I tried going for all attack types melee range and tech
I can't wait for Braver too! Once it drops, I'm going to 1000% go really hard on it and max it to it's extreme asap LOL. Also nice combo with TeGu! I honestly was about to switch to techter as I wait for Braver, but ended up sticking with Hunter
@@everydere Hunter is amazing I just like to be able to use multiple types of damage types I like very versatile no matter the range or damage type which is why I'm excited for braver
@@unclemelon48 Yeah im in the same boat for why I want Braver too! I think SEGA with the defense quests (this drops with Braver) will give us some more general potency augments, so we can do more hybrid gear in the long run. atleast I hope so LOL
It mostly depends imo on your playstyle + weapon, if you need more pp per active then Gunner would be better. But if you want to do something like infinite calibur streak spam on a weak point, Force+PP conversion would be better. Personally I end up using Force slightly more during mobbing
Yknow I was actually thinking about that, and I have 7 Skill Reset passes to test it. Only downside, is currently i have that overflow glitch so my status shows -6789754589% resist LMAO
@@everydere well it didn't fully negate it but it reduced the dmg taken from status and status duration quite a bit. Since I speced more in bad condition ward(the one that reduces how potent the status is) things like big froga poison didn't do like 10 dmg a tick (if I remember correctly bare with me here) The recent experience I had with geant and bad ward was that of mostly getting frozen. Compared to me running GuFi to RaFi I stayed frozen considerably longer with GuFi than RaFi
@@XDD50Hz it depends on the demand. If everyone is squishy, I would go with Hu Main. If we have a good hunter main, I'll go Te. Area Resta is fantastic.
@@alucarderipmavtube if i’m not mistaken you use hu main for the warcry aggro draw? honestly warcry doesn’t even help that much when every boss has multiple aoe attacks, you’re playing it in a too “conventional mmo” way imo
Yeah I can't wait for Bouncer especially to see how SEGA works out the PP restorate Fields + Crit fields along with Jetboots! I kinda wonder which PAs they're going to keep for jetboots too since every weapon is generally reduced down to 2-3 PAs total.
Yup! FoGu is some ridiculous PP regen, and GuFo as well. BoFo is infinite PP too (Bo has the same PP eradication bascically as Fo). For me, I primarily play HuFo since it allows me to just twisting zapper everything repeatedly until death for PSE bursts. FoGu though is hillariously fun for me since it just enables you to spam 24/7.
I freakin love those names LMAO. And it's 100% true TeHu is such a surprisingly really fun combo that I didn't expect to be so freakin fun, literal chad LOL
@@everydere i wish it would either charge faster, or hit harder. Or nerf it a bit (not that it needs it) and just make it an extra attack similar to some of the special partisan weapon action attacks
@@chunkblaster Ohhhh kinda like assault charge? I would love that honestly. Tie it to Rifle's weapon action, on successful dodge press weapon action again to instantly spread shot. It would make Rifle's combat feel like a mobile powerhouse which would be sick!
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EDIT: (7/10/2021): OKAY SOME *HUUUUUUUUUGE* Information just got dropped so I will be delaying the Super Special Hunter Video most likely to late tonight OR Tomorrow morning. The information was that game changing so I have to retool my video to incorporate it, since it is honestly ridiculously good stuff. Sorry for the delays!
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If you like close range and being right in the thick of the fight, gunner is the pp management sub class you should use. If you prefer long range and avoiding fights then you want force as your pp management class.
On top of that, if you're focusing on grinding Force's PP eradication makes grinding PSE bursts extremely easy thanks to 24/7 full PP!
I was thinking of doing Hunter as main and sub as Fighter so I can use all the melee weapons I like. Sword, dual blades, gloves, spear. If not that then Hunter and Techniker. Only problem is, I don't like passives or skills the drain def or HP to improve atk, so I'm not gonna turn those on.
thanks for breaking it down to simplicity
I imagine this was in the making when I was asking about subclasses, but great video as always! Clear and concise with great info.
Yup! I was getting a lot of questions about subclasses from you and others, so I decided to do a quick rundown of all the subclasses since my videos usually ended with a vague "It's your personal preference" *leaves without elaborating* LOL
Honestly such an underrated channel I hope things go well for you
Thank you! I hope all my future content will help more players out!
Ra/Fo - Lasers all the way, Everyday
Lasers go *BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR* RaFo is seriously one of my favorite combinations in this game from how freakin awesome it is in the PP department! Lasers ftw!
I used to play Erwin in Soulworker, so I main Gunner/Ranger now to fill the niche of the character. I loving it, and the fact that Ranger also have Spread Shot, I can spend my Gunner point into PP recovery
Ohhh how is Soulworker now? I saw that it had a re-release under the company on Steam but I didn't really try it out yet. Also! GuRa is super fun and I love how spread shot is shared so we can just take it on the Ranger Tree vs the Gunner Tree!
@@everydere yeah, the game was initially published by Gameforge previously, but was shut down and re-release under the original company. It seems the game in a better condition now, however, after gameforge version was shut down, all progress are wiped and can't be carried over, so I'm tired of playing all over again. that's why I'm trying PSO2 NGS now. And honestly I'm glad I did, it have so much freedom. No Class locked & No Gender locked. It's all I ever wanted so far
@@totallynotacat9761 Oof that sounds super scuffed, didn't know it was gameforge as the initial publisher. I haven't had that many good experiences with game forge OTL. I'll definitely try out the new published SoulWorker since I havent tried it. Also glad you're able to play NGS and enjoy it! The game's only going to get better the further we get with updates =D! Although I hope SEGA implements a free shop pass through some points soon, since it was taken out of the FUN scratch right before NGS drop.
I have a level 20/20 RaGu (the sweet sauce bois) and have multi-weapon'd Rifle/Launcher, Launcher/TMG, TMG/Wired Lance. I absolutely love it.
I think RaFo will probably be the best class once we have unlocked all of the spells -- like Zanverse, for "Our DPS".
Great video!
Dude RaFo is so strong, I'm actually scared for once we get Zanverse on it LOL. I think it's going to completely decimate everything once you can zanverse from across the wordl + Fear erase. Thankies for sharing your class combos by the way!
I played around with Te/Ra using status reduction and the Deband status reduction with a Launcher/Talis multiweapon to use the Talis Weapon Action to fuel PP regen for Fear Eraser with Geant units. Has been pretty fun and gives Techter some much needed sustained damage consistency.
Also the boosted Resta is nice for topping back up with one resta after getting punched in the face during Fear Eraser.
Ohhh I've seen a lot of TeRas recently in my UQs and they're all amazing! Techter's such a sick class from all the different combos you can do with it. My build is mostly focused on purely TeFo but I might switch where I placed the talis skills back onto my Techter
I am using Te/Fo on my Main. I have 7 Characters and since one of my alts is dedicated to the role of the mage (Force), I basically "butchered" the Force Skilltree fully for my Techter Main and I think personally that this benefits me the most and I have fun with it. :)
Good overview! This definetly helps new players and all of the people who are not sure what to pick! ^^
Yeah butchering the force tree for me, really helped out my Techter Tree + other classes where I use Force as a pure subclass (no rod). I did purchase a second skill tree though just in case I want to play purely force and figure some cool stuff out.
Thanks for the feedback by the way! Today was supposed to be a hunter in depth breakdown, but I went with a subclass video since a lot of people were asking about subclasses.
i mostly use gunner and force as subclasses also. i main fighter knuckles mainly because i was roleplaying as a punching kinda character, but have since tried out other weapons and found myself still really liking the knuckles. maybe its just the sound it makes when i hit things being super satisfying, idk.
anyway, my playstyle is heavily focused on relentless attacking, so i butchered my gunner skill tree by putting everything into offensive PP recovery so i never have to pause even for a moment to get PP back to cast fighter PAs.
it also helps that with a gunner as my sub, i can equip a rifle that lets me make up for knucke's lack of AoE and difficulty with very high targets (like pettas vera when they are flying)
(oh, i also sometimes play ranger and techter to fill roles when i go for UQs, and force is for those two)
Yeah I end up doing the same playstyle as you when I use knuckles aka super aggressive attacking. Rifle I find compliments the playstyle so much especially for AoE since homing darts is pretty damn good! For me I mainly chose knuckles since I could shoryuken tbh LMAO
Great video. 👍 I'm wondering what sword you were using and if we can get it still?
Thankies! Also it's called "* Junkyard Dog" , you can obtain it from the OG PSO2 Player shops still, it came from the Blazing Beats Scratch (This is guilty gear x blazblue) so it may be a liiiittle pricy. I would recommend to do your weeklies on OG PSO2 until you hit meseta needed overtime since a lot of people won't be relisting their OG PSO2 stuff.
Hope that helps you out!
@@everydere ya it's sol badguy wep from the game
i kinda messed up my skill tree at the very beginning of the game, so i bought that skillbook thingy ;-;
and this video saves TONS of people who face the same problem with me, thanks a lot good sir
edit: now i have Hunter as my one-and-only subclass, since it gives a lot of survivability and i love braindeadly facetanking enemy attacks
No problem! I messed up my skill tree too since I wanted to have my talis skills on one tree instead of both LOL
@@everydere happens in almost every mmo
TL;DR (first I am not an expert, and I didn’t proofread, watch the video to get complete understanding).
Subclass is for the passives and photon arts. Since the game is still in its early stages, don’t commit all you skill points into a build for a subclass unless you are 100% certain. Resetting pass is hard to come by or will cost money. All suggested build are on the video. Disclaimer, subclasses really should just be what fits your play style and what is fun.
Force: Natural PP gain, downed enemy, or charging PA, you get PP.
Gunner: Active PP again, ever hit means you get PP
Fighter: 5% damage increase. You can specialize in one weapon at your own risk
Techter: can match weak element, awake sole will give a chance of PP gain
Hunter: Damage resistance due to iron will and hunter physique.
Ranger: decrease status ailments effects.
Tips on choosing subclass: choose the weapon you want to use that your main class can’t. Then choose on the active/passives you want (based on the descriptions above and your own experience). Finally how fun do you find the combo. I didn’t not proofread this, not am I an expert. Just thought this could help people.
Yup this is a great TL;DR! And to add upon this:
Braver: Access to Bow/Katana Brave Combats & HP Regen on knockdown recovery.
Bouncer: Access to Jet Boots/SB's Fanatic Blade. Fanatic Blade was nerfed for multi-weps due to it *completely breaking the game* . Jet Boots is the main reason for Bo sub, since you'll be able to do combinations like TeBo and use Jet Boots exclusively over your wand/talis.
Techer / Fighter. Main weapon is talis / DS multi wep. I play this so I can shifta / deband my friends, aoe heal, and eley down. I primarily use talis for dps, but during down phases swap to DS to dump pp for big dmg. DS photon blast is stronger than techer's talis blast and you can dealdy archer right after since it gives you full whirlwind from photon. Also since talis is forced to use dodge I can bind DS block to use that instead of dodge sometimes. I currently have a resi talis / ds jsut because I was debating between dagger and DS when I was making the talis. The vialto with a fixa attack woudl likely be better. My armor is affixed for hybrid damage so I have about +20% to both attack types. (using 3 of the tech + melee red box armors). Obv I'm not max damage, but this lets me swap and use DS really well, which is more fun than just using talis (or wand).
Oooo I haven't seen a Talis+DS multi yet, that sounds really sick! Also I 100% build my classes based on fun/QoL over max damage as well LOL. With all the combinations in the game, and how the majority are just within 1-3% difference, there's so much variety to do in this game that it's great. I hope SEGA moving forward keeps all the possibilities for class combos viable!
Literally was sitting in front of my monitor trying to think of a subclass when this video appeared haha.
What perfect timing LMAO
Personally i only put 1 point into pp conversion since anything more is very overkill and I barely need to use it anyway
Instead I put the points into rod counter weapon action skills so I can multiweapon with talis and still hv a counter that also increase elemental down charge with elemental bullets
And for my main class techter tree I just got all the passive skills and shifts deband
Yooo that's actually smarter than what I did! I tested out 3/5 PP convert and it's still virtually the same as 1/5. Since I have some extra skill tree passes i'll probably do that for the Talis+Rod wep action. (I've been using wand for the parry action, but Elemental Bullet would be 90x more helpful). Thanks for sharing!
I do Te/Fo as well, but I find the 5/5 conversion vital when going for Barta/Zonde effects, or during burst phases or the Photon Energy Bursts in combat zones. It basically lets me spam my spells/smash literally infinitely, even despite the fact I am charging my spell every so often. At 1/5, I would still spend about a third of every phase attacking to get PP back. As for counter with elemental, I have the Wand counter that causes rage to trigger and simply ignored the more or less useless parts of the Shifta/Deband tree (the revive one, time extender, and party range one), all of which really are over kill on a skill that naturally has a 90second duration, a generous AoE that lasts for 5 seconds on the ground, and only 15 seconds of CD.
Its easy enough to drop it a couple seconds after your get in range of the boss, and give other melee ample time to get into the AoE. It is also simple enough to segue towards where the ranged characters (really should be) stacked, to drop the buff on them every so often during a movement phase. In the combat maps, its really simple to just drop it either in a central location at the start of every encounter or in the middle of the path everyone else will have to walk into to pick it up. In either scenario, if someone is failing to get buffed, I really consider that to be on them at that point, because I can't see their buff status, but they can. If they aren't actively doing what they need to do to keep it up, despite the generous windows of opportunity the S/D skill naturally offers, they are the ones doing something wrong.
@@ianwells7916 Ooo thanks for the indepth insight! Yeah I did notice at 1/5 I would have to attack every other time once my PP dipped to
@@everydereHonestly, no. Revoke seems like it would be completely useless, since its not like elements actually heal things. I skipped that point without even a thought. The Talis revoke seems like it may be useful if you are a legit talis main, but I simply revoke by using a Wand PA or attack with the wand.
And yeah, I agree about buffing. This game does not follow the trinity, and there are no dedicated support classes. As a Techter, we simply sacrifice a bit of mobility and a bit of burst DPS for a hell of a lot of utility - party buffs and the only class in the game that can reliably do part damage, add to the knockdown meter, and elemental down meter at the same time. Our job is not to make sure that everyone else is constantly buffed, regardless of what they are doing, but to do damage and buff when we can.
Was in a UQ fighting the dragon boss a couple days ago, and by chance we had 4 techters and no ranger. I was a little worried about how that was gonna go, until we ended up downing and/or shocking the boss through over half the fight.
@@ianwells7916 Dude my last UQ like a couple days ago was 4 Techters all of them TeHu + 1 Ranger and me on Hunter, and it was the fastest UQ I've ever had LOL.
Ra/Fo for sure. Nothing beats infinite eraser in a PSE burst. Want that burst to last basically forever? Get 2 or 3 and cross the streams. This laser spam has the bonus side effect of insane blast generation.
Fi/Hu is a close second for me when I want a more action-packed experience. DR is just nice on fighter, bonus having no increased damage taken for overload AND no knockback so you can focus on doing all that single target DPS and ignore the hits you might be not so good at swaying yet. Some say it has not so great PP efficiency but that can be fixed with food buffs.
Yup! RaFo is hella hype! And FiHu is my second as well, a lot of people really don't value the extra damage reduction but it REALLY helps for times you're not playing completely perfectly. I run the same setup for PP efficiency as well through my food
Fighter main, I usually sub gunner when I am feeling to fly around with daggers and sometimes force whenever I use Double Saber since Double Saber has alot of Iframes and during s natural pp recovs are nice 🤣
I do the same! FiGu for TDs and FiFo for DS LOL! It really works out super well having two different PP options.
Edit: On knuckles, I end up switching between the two depending on what im doing as well
I would try knuckles but am out of resources to unlock the potencial, plus there is no Straga Knuckles🤣🤣 Yes am Living on the edge 3 Geant Armors and Lvl 3 Straga Potency🤫
I’ve been maining hu/gu with swords wired lances and a rifle/tmg. Hits hard at any range and just eats every hit I take
Same! I've been doing HuFo/HuGu, I find when I use partizan HuGu works out better for me, but if I'm doing Sword+WL HuFo works better for me, since I can pop PP convert and dump 6 calibur streaks + more in one burst phase
I go with Fi/Ra. Not for anything other than the utility of having ranged weapons where needed for farming purposes. Waiting for Braver to make that the main so I can utilize Bows and Katana's alongside Fighter as my sub
Sick combination! I'm waiting for Braver too because I REALLY want to combine it with other weapons. I'm still trying to decide between BrFo/BrFi or BrHu for which braver I'ma do. One more monthh! Also Bouncer with fighter will probably be sick as well once that drops!
what is the song in the beginning? I think its maybe some persona 5? sounds very familiar like I heard it a million times.
The skill trees at this stage of the game seem pretty simple, like you can easily unlock every skill for every weapon choice and still put a bunch extra into the passive boosts. The difference between each point in the passive boost is pretty negligible too, so you might as well have all the gameplay stuff first and foremost so that when you play that class it works as it's supposed to. Ranger is easily the worst subclass (just too circumstantial, I've only had an ailment one time thus far) unless you want its weapons, i.e. the LAUWNCHER. You can still get assault rifle off of gunner. So that's literally it, the launcher.
Yup, for my force tree I'm buying a second one since I have one tree for TeFo specifically, and another for Force shenanigans. But even if you don't focus ALL your points into that, there's enough points in Force to get all the skills along with pretty decent PP natural recovery AND *you still have PP Convert + PP Eradication Gain* which makes it insanely great! Honestly, I think SEGA will end up adding more SP down the line which will make choices less different.
Bad condition ward and reduction was very useful for me since im a fighter main and I use 3 geant units. Makes the status ailments not so noticeable/annoying
Ohh definitely at that point, there's so much -% status that I can see the Bad Condition skills workin out!
Was i the only one laughing when kept sayin PP 😭✋
Thanks for good info!
No problem! If you've got any questions feel free to ask =D!
Since PSO2NG is coming to PS4/5 in August, I'm gonna join.
I plan on playing thru the old PS02 content before NG, but I still think hunter will be my main class if not fighter. I never like tanking over speed, but since Hunter is still decent with speed, I'm gonna try it for the power. Play the swords look great. What I'm wondering about is if I play the old content before NG and pick Hunter and fighter as sub, does that mean they'll be bosses that as flying high out of reach I can hit? This happened in Portable 1 and 2 and I think in Universe. Sometimes the game forced you to play a mage or shooter to hit the target while it was hiding or flying far away in the air. In NG it seem you can always reach the foes even with just melee if you master jump and attacking. But what about the old days in the earlier content?
Thank you for your video, I have just subscribed !
Now, I am only using Fi as a sub-class to benefit for more down potency and a better PP management.
I will definitely try Gu and Fo for more PP boosts as a Hu or a Bo. I wonder though, how useful a Hu can be as a sub-class for a Bo ?
Hunter Physique can be really useful for the anti-knockback it provides, especially to protect you for combo interruption.
Furthermore, I have specialized myself in the use of elemental weapons (Glissen, Flamel... not Frostal since there was no Frostal Sword and Bo was basically not out yet) and I will certainly get the Wind weapons on both of my main classes. The idea being to have a large elements coverage while fighting heavily on melee rather than casting spells. For now, the choices are limited but I will get more options and more opportunities to make use of my sub-palettes with time. Thank you again for your content, I will check more for sure ! :)
Thank you! BoHu should work out pretty well especially as a training tool as you get adjusted to the playstyle. Jet Boots and Soaring Blades as of the Retem update, have realllly good defensive options on top of offensive uses. Also specializing in Elemental weapons sounds sick af, Im really hoping SEGA ends up an affix or new upgrade option that'll allow us to imbue elements onto our weapons. For the actual subclass I use, I actually stick with BoFi or BoFo since the tech skills can be shared with a Fo subclass.
@@everydere Thank you for your insight ! 🙂
I do like going Force/Ranger. Was working on Hunter subclass as well so I have a Foursis rod Multiweapon with a Foursis Wire added on. Since I am working on leveling ranger in the subclass slot, its been useful. I got all ranges in a pinch. Seldom ever need to use PP Gain in Force. Keep basic attack set for mouse 2, rod weapon action on 3. Spam whichever element tech I need. Them use the AOE of the wired lance to gain back some PP rapidly while dealing damage. And if course I still have a foursis Rifle Rod multi in another slot since Ranger is current subclass. So, I have options.
Ohh nice combos! I wish our multi weapons would let us slap a wire onto everything LOL cause I wanna have one with my cattelya setup
@@everydere I can agree there. I suppose this was a balance to avoid OP behavior. Though it least you can do this with the Resurgir line. Though you do mot get the same Potential bonuses.
@@Terra-Quattuor Yup Resurgir we can do it annnd I was hoping the new Glissen would allow us to as well (Since it is a 3* event series), but unfortunately it doesnt T_T. I woulda loved a lightning Rifle
@@everydere We can wait and see if more Glissen items will be added for week 2, unless another element comes after. This may have been done, again, for balancing. Lightning daggers would have been, woof
@@Terra-Quattuor ooo that's super true! Lightning Daggers lets goooo SEGA LOL
I butchered my hunter tree by making it a subclass focus and not taking iron will.
I didn't know you can change your main class.
Okay, two questions...
1: Is it okay to just take on the passives from the subclass but maintain use of the main class weapon(s)? I'm not really good at switching between weapon styles. (i.e melee to ranged or vice versa) I tried it with my Hunter going between my sword and wire lances. Not fun.
2: What would you say is the best subclass for a Force by way of damage boosts?
So to answer your questions! (Sorry for the late reply)
1. Yes it is 100% okay to just take on the passives from the subclass! For Hunter specifically in your case, you can multi-weapon Sword+Wired Lance at the weapon upgrade areas. This allows you to seamlessly switch between the two weapons at a cost of around ~200k meseta. IMO though, 9/10 times I just stick with one weapon and ignore switching between attack types. This is completely feasible to do too since in Retem there's not a lot of times where an aerial gap closer is really needed.
2. Absolute best subclass right now and strongest class combo in the game is FoBo ( Force with Bouncer subclass), max out the bouncer subclasses' downed damage multipliers and Force will pretty much delete everything in the game.
@@everydere Cool! Thanks so much.
And it's cool about the late replies. I'm playing on three different characters.
Hunter, Gunner and Force. if I have to look for help on one I just set it aside and play as the other two until I find what i need.
I gave my Hunter a Force subclass for faster PP restore and my Gunner has a Hunter subclass for more durability.
@@shadowjudge921 Ooo those are some solid choices. For me personally I've ended up maining Gunner so I've been running GuBo/GuFo primarily for either PP or more downed states. I used to run GuHu back when the game launched so I could use TMGs+Swords and it was reallly fun too LOL. HuFo I ended up playing a loooot of until Retem's drop and then I went back to playing Gunner. IMO I think HuFo is probably one of my favorite class combos in the game especially with the new PAs that just dropped.
Fi/Ra but use Launcher as main weapon because testing if my damage will increase using overload even do subclass get 10% damage reduce but affix all precision
I believe overload does apply to your subclass weapons, so on Fighter it would come out to be a net gain on Burst(Downed) phases? Since you'll have 115% Defeat Advantage + 120% Overload, vs Ranger's 105% Defeat Advantage + 10% Main weapon potency + Blight Rounds if you place it on too (Assuming you do RaFi vs FiRa). Excited to hear what your testing comes out to!
@@everydere I think it is main class weapons only. The text says main class and fighter weapons. But you REALLY need to be careful with it since the big thing with fear eraser is, well, you are GOING to eat damage if you want max uptime. So that extra damage taken can significantly hinder your DPS if you are constantly having to cut it short to avoid death where without that you could have just tanked the hit.
EDIT/Update: it does not seem to apply to non-fighter weapons. Just tested on my Fi/Hu attacking with a hunter weapon with and without overload showed no change. Against the particular enemy with a base 4* I was doing 63-76ish damage on the first sword swing and after activating overload I was still doing about that much albeit it was harder to keep track of since I also had to focus on not dying with overload up lol. So unfortunately all you are doing by using your sub weapon as the main weapon is hurting the main weapon's damage against things that are not down AND not being able to self-apply blight.
@@ShiningDarknes Yooo thanks so much for testing and the insight!
Hello wanted to ask about multi weapons for sub class, umm does the augments and potentials of the main weapon affect the sub weapon like for example TMG being the main and sword being the sub?
So I believe, and anyone can correct me on this, the potential definitely affects your sub weapon, however augments are a different case.
If you apply Precision III for example, it affects TMGS,Launchers,Rifles on your multiweapon, but not the Sword portion of your multiweapon. This is because Precision III/Might III/Casting III apply *only to Ranged/Melee/Technique weapons* so they would have to match.
I think in the future, SEGA will probably implement some more raw potency augments probably around Braver's drop, to even out the hybrid weapons augmenting. Hope that helps you out!
@@everydere Thank you for the reply I'll just opt out of the multi weapons for now since Cattleya TMG might not work well with the sword :)
i honestly don’t care about sub THAT much when i play fi, pp conversion from fo can be helpful but if you’re using knuckle and can get in some consistent counter then pp management should not be a problem. I do wish the br skill tree can come with passive crit boost like in the base pso2 but at this point i don’t think it’ll be possible since that passive boost will literally make br the go-to sub for everything else, and i assume that’s not what sega wants. maybe when they expand the skill trees we will be seeing those skills to appear, idk
right now ngs doesn’t have a class as a subclass with skills that add on to your main class offense capability except fi. with that being said i feel like picking a subclass is basically for the weapons that class uses and some minor stuff that comes with the subclass.
Yeah I'm super curious tbh what Braver is going to add for their subclass skills, we have potentially Crit Boost or Weak Potency Boost (I'm assuming this would replace Weak Stance). And both of those would be too game changing and make it the main subclass LOL.
I agree too where I think SEGA is trying to promote making subclasses basically minimal to the point you just use the weapons themselves, over the actual class skills. I think going forward, we'll probably get some more clear choices, but at the same time I 100% can see SEGA just keeping our subclass skills the same as it is right now (Super minor increases that barely change gameplay).
@@everydere well it could be possible that br has some good passive skills, from what we can see in the trailer katana combat becomes the pb for katana, rapid fire becomes the default shot pattern on bow so points for those skills are gone, given some skill points on katana counter buff and the possible banish arrow skill on bow (i saw some arrows lingering on the enemy in the trailer that’s why i think there can possibly be a discount banish combo) i think there should be 5 or so extra skill points if we maxed out the weapon-related skill points. maybe it will have that recov skill from the base pso2, or sega can totally butcher the possibility of br as a subclass by giving it some mediocre passives lol
@@XDD50Hz Oh god I just realized what if SEGA actually allows banish arrow to work with non-arrow attacks LMAO. Rise of the old OG PSO2 TeBr Rikauteri setup where you use ilbarta + banish to create instant death to a single target. Although I think SEGA may try to prevent that considering Chain Trigger only works with purely TMGs now.
@@everydere yeah, sega seem to be limiting the skill synergy within the weapon by itself rather than cross-weapon, fair enough but they really need to iron out the skills since rn CT has a long list on what can glitch out itself, so if banishing combo will ever be a thing then it better not be as glitchy🤦♂️
@@XDD50Hz CT glitching out is pretty much the whole reason I'm now a Hunter OTL
The multi weapons I’m sort of disappointing on the system as far as right now because some of the weapons that I want to multi weapon with they are not available because they don’t have a rifle maybe more other weapons of that particular weapon but mainly I’m noticing there’s not much rifles like the giga bosses drop they don’t drop any new rifle which I really hope they add soon because I have a sweet launcher that I got off of one I want to get some crazy battle point on my character but I can’t if I don’t have the rifle to multi weapon with my launcher🙁 I have Ranger is my main and force as my sub just felt like a little rant though love the game but I really hope they improve it soon
Dude I 10000000% understand, I have the same exact gripes about the multi-weapon system. It went pretty well until we hit 4*s and realized weapons had to be in the same series. I REALLY hope SEGA eventually just makes every series like Resurgir where it has ALL weapons, so we can actually make some cool combos. One of the combos I really enjoy is legit only tied to Resurgir + the Glissen series (Sword+ WL). But both aren't that optimal for me to use *F* compared to Cattelya/Straga. I love the game too but mannn it really needs be changed later down the line LOL
Can you do a revamped video. I want to know is a Hunter x Bouncer worth it
So, Braver-Hunter is a terrible combination?
To do parry is it only to learn battle pattern or there is a sign when to parry?
as a Fighter main, and in my perspective, it's easier to learn the pattern and try to press the weapon action a split-second before the monster attack (because most of the weapons' activation are there)
hope that helps!
It's pretty much down to learning the battle pattern, but best place to try and learn the parry timing would be to head to the Cocoon "Defeat the Enhanced Enemy". Usually I time my parries to be .25-.5s before the attack connects for it to work. Hope that helps you out!
Depends on the weapon. They all have different windows. For fighter and hunter weapons you kinda just have to learn what the attacks look like and it becomes more prediction parry than reaction. The best enemy I have found that really showcases this is (whatever the double blade-arm enemy is) since it has very obvious patterns but also some timings that make reaction parry harder than just knowing what it is going to do.
For ranged attacks it is just do it a moment before the attack would connect, careful though as many ranged enemies have follow-up attacks that seem to be timed to catch you right at the end of the animation where you have infinite hyper armor but no i-frames. I have eaten a lot of damage due to this and I really think it needs a rework.
I've rather been enjoying using Ranger as a sub the past few days with my Force main, slightly backwards from the norm I'm aware.. most have talked with say to swap them.
I had been using Hunter sub for wire-lances and though I miss them a bit, not as much as I thought I would as the homing darts are really great mobbing in some ways better in terms of effiency I'm finding, like less pp used an such.. though the "Laso" move with the wire-lance is a bit quicker for active normal attack PP regeneration I feel.. don't got any hard data on which is "actually better by the numbers" lol. still get'n the hang ofthe skills and how to weave rifle and/or launcher with my Rod.
If you multiweapon your main weapon with wired lance you can still use the weapon action even without a Hunter sub. You only need a Hunter sub for PAs.
Yeah homing darts are really really great and fun! It's hard for me to find out which one is better by the numbers too since Force at any point gives you eradication PP gain on nearby enemy death for AoE. Overall glad you're enjoying the game and have a pretty cool combo!
I 100% agree with this video and how do you have all the classes pretty high level I just got my hunter to level 20 😂
Oh dailies! Since honestly speaking, there is super limited content on NGS at the moment). Bare minimum I do is dailies to keep my classes leveling (this also prevents burn out too!)
Can you please make an ASMR 2nd channel where you just talk softly about game info?
*crinkles plastic* So today we're going to *crinkles paper* Talk about *scratches sand* the balance of NGS
Until braver is released I main techer and gunner im not sure of it works this way but the reason why I use techer and gunner is cause of the shifta and deband and the range damage and tech damage and melee damage if it works that way at least. I use the machine pistols for range damage then tech damage to knock the enemy down then I hit them with matching element wand melee attacks. I tried going for all attack types melee range and tech
I can't wait for Braver too! Once it drops, I'm going to 1000% go really hard on it and max it to it's extreme asap LOL. Also nice combo with TeGu! I honestly was about to switch to techter as I wait for Braver, but ended up sticking with Hunter
@@everydere Hunter is amazing I just like to be able to use multiple types of damage types I like very versatile no matter the range or damage type which is why I'm excited for braver
@@unclemelon48 Yeah im in the same boat for why I want Braver too! I think SEGA with the defense quests (this drops with Braver) will give us some more general potency augments, so we can do more hybrid gear in the long run. atleast I hope so LOL
Kinda torn between Force and gunner subclass for PP
It mostly depends imo on your playstyle + weapon, if you need more pp per active then Gunner would be better. But if you want to do something like infinite calibur streak spam on a weak point, Force+PP conversion would be better. Personally I end up using Force slightly more during mobbing
How u get that head piece?
Hi hi! It's called "Maikagura Fox Mask" its from OG PSO2 and you can still purchase it from OG PSO2 Player shops! Hope that helps you out
I wonder if Ranger as a subclass with maxed ailment reduction skills could be useful with Geant units
Yknow I was actually thinking about that, and I have 7 Skill Reset passes to test it. Only downside, is currently i have that overflow glitch so my status shows -6789754589% resist LMAO
Before I reset my tree, bad condition skills do help a lot with it
@@Sullyvian Ohhh that's really interesting! Did it basically negate the whole geant armor effect?
@@everydere well it didn't fully negate it but it reduced the dmg taken from status and status duration quite a bit. Since I speced more in bad condition ward(the one that reduces how potent the status is) things like big froga poison didn't do like 10 dmg a tick (if I remember correctly bare with me here)
The recent experience I had with geant and bad ward was that of mostly getting frozen. Compared to me running GuFi to RaFi I stayed frozen considerably longer with GuFi than RaFi
I'm playing a tanky support so Hu/Te or inversely Te/Hu. That is until Bouncer is released.
if you go for a support role then better be using te/hu since s/d is main class only skill
@@XDD50Hz it depends on the demand. If everyone is squishy, I would go with Hu Main. If we have a good hunter main, I'll go Te. Area Resta is fantastic.
@@alucarderipmavtube if i’m not mistaken you use hu main for the warcry aggro draw? honestly warcry doesn’t even help that much when every boss has multiple aoe attacks, you’re playing it in a too “conventional mmo” way imo
Yeah I can't wait for Bouncer especially to see how SEGA works out the PP restorate Fields + Crit fields along with Jetboots! I kinda wonder which PAs they're going to keep for jetboots too since every weapon is generally reduced down to 2-3 PAs total.
@@XDD50Hz you know what else they should really bring back? Zanverse and Megiverse.
Fo/Gu for godly PP regen?
Yup! FoGu is some ridiculous PP regen, and GuFo as well. BoFo is infinite PP too (Bo has the same PP eradication bascically as Fo). For me, I primarily play HuFo since it allows me to just twisting zapper everything repeatedly until death for PSE bursts. FoGu though is hillariously fun for me since it just enables you to spam 24/7.
Hunter Ranger
me with gunner and waker: o-oh 👁👄👁
Oh shit saw you in ship 2 earlier
Oh Hi! LOL
TeHu for Gigachad; TeFo for DownDaddy
I freakin love those names LMAO. And it's 100% true TeHu is such a surprisingly really fun combo that I didn't expect to be so freakin fun, literal chad LOL
Spread shit is so trash, it takes forever to charge it and it's like slapping the enemy with a pillow
I feel like it's more for burst phases to give Ranger/Rifle more burst during it, but it always seems to come out at the most awkward times for me *F*
@@everydere i wish it would either charge faster, or hit harder. Or nerf it a bit (not that it needs it) and just make it an extra attack similar to some of the special partisan weapon action attacks
@@chunkblaster Ohhhh kinda like assault charge? I would love that honestly. Tie it to Rifle's weapon action, on successful dodge press weapon action again to instantly spread shot. It would make Rifle's combat feel like a mobile powerhouse which would be sick!
@@everydere yes exactly! would love something like that
I'm starting to hate PSO2, you have to buy everything just to do something. They even want me to buy something...just to even delete a save data my unwanted character. If it wasn't for PSO2 I would of been quit