What are the psychological effects of consuming violence online? | Sebastian Junger | Big Think
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"The internet is an exciting and a dangerous place," says journalist and documentarian Sebastian Junger.
He argues that because of thousands of years of evolution, our bodies react to seeing decapitations on screens as if they were happening in front of or to us.
According to Junger, the internet is too new for us to really understand the long-term effects it will have on our lives.
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SEBASTIAN JUNGER
Sebastian Junger is the #1 New York Times Bestselling author of THE PERFECT STORM, FIRE, A DEATH IN BELMONT, WAR and TRIBE. As an award-winning journalist, a contributing editor to Vanity Fair and a special correspondent at ABC News, he has covered major international news stories around the world, and has received both a National Magazine Award and a Peabody Award. Junger is also a documentary filmmaker whose debut film "Restrepo", a feature-length documentary (co-directed with Tim Hetherington), was nominated for an Academy Award and won the Grand Jury Prize at Sundance.
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TRANSCRIPT: The internet is sort of this crazy amazing and sometimes sort of bullying environment. In a way it’s an exciting and a dangerous place. Because of the internet we can all of us now with a few clicks can watch video of incredible atrocities being committed against other people. That’s new in human experience. I mean usually if you’re watching someone’s head get cut off you’re in a situation where you’re either part of that and you have some moral responsibility or your own head is about to get cut off. But either way your body goes into a sort of fight or flight reaction which is programmed by hundreds of thousands of years of evolution. When you see violence your body is ready, readies itself to deal with violence.
So now what we can do is watch violence from the safety of our couch. Our body doesn’t know we’re sitting on our couch. The moral debate in our minds isn’t engaged the way it is when someone’s head is actually getting cut off in front of you. That has real consequence psychologically for people and personally I just don’t watch anything online that I wouldn’t be okay with seeing in person.
Seeing violence up close and personally I know the effect that it’s had on my psyche, on me as a person and I don’t want it. I just don’t watch it. And I do worry about young people who have access to this. It has to be harming them and we haven’t had the internet long enough to see how that harm will play out through the course of someone’s life.
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I saw a beheading video when I was in my teens. It was horrible, the only thing I learned was to never be curious online again. It sucked, but now when I hear about some crazy viral video like that I just shrug it off, I don’t want to see that crap now.
Interesting question, if only some big thinkers gave an answer...
This couldn't have been more obvious (rme). I really had to think big on this one.
Lol yeah, gore is bad m´kay?
...and if only youtube commentators shut up their ignorance spitting.
...and if only youtube commentators sh*t up their ignorance spitting.
@@daniels.os. there was no argument or facts in this and the logic just makes sense in our modern sensibility but is for anybody interested in history just obviously wrong. You can read all you want about the scale of the worst crimes of humanity but what will stick whit you is the individual horror story's.
so this is pretty annoying as he is going off his own personal experiance and not actually arguing with scientific evidence. thought i was actually gonna hear a good argument but no its just an anecdotal argument.
Nope because this notion of violence in media causing people to become violent has been debunk by science over and over.
That's why he doesn't have any scientific evidence because like i said the scientific evidence proves that the two has no connection.
I mean mortal combat is an example that has over the top violence but you don't see people running around trying to tear spines out of people. Its like he thinks humans are incapable of distinguishing reality from the "fake".
Or he forgets a little thing called suspension of disbelief.
@HarleyHilderson asking big questions to make you think is fair, but the question he raises isn't new, nor is there anything to provoke thought aside from him more or less saying, "but think of the children!"
The reality being real violence in media has been prevalent via news reels showing holocaust victims, the nightly news showing the horrors of vietnam or the plane slamming into tower two played on a non stop 24 hour loop for a month. If you want to raise a questions, bring up the analogous situations, explain to me how its different from all of those times in the past where real violence was in the media. Not, "well, we just don't know..." because someone who doesn't even have to think big about the question will have better answers and a better provocation for thought.
Came here to get triggered. Got triggered.
@@xMckingwill Very different things. I watch gory movies all the time and gory games, and its a whole different level when i see actual violence online or irl (wich i saw some). Even not being up close the violence it affected me- and i felt similar things with what ive seen online, not like any fictional violence.
'Harm' that some people mention can mean many things. My stepdad worked with emergency rescue for a hospital and was morbidly fascinated by it (and completely numbed of by violence and death)- thing is the reason why he chose that career was a single traumatic experience where he saw gore upclose when young.
It affected him, numbed him to it, and caused the morbid fascination.
Now, that kind of numbeness to it is normal across medicine- doctors increasingly get detached, its the nature of the job. So its not 'harm' as the side effect of the job- but at the same time it affected a kid so much he couldn't shake the image off and it led some of the most important decisions he made throughout his life- and i bet no one, probably not even you, would want their kid to have that kind of experience and that kind of impact. So theres some sort of harm there.
Now, i as a kid didn't suffered the same- despite me playing mortal kombat all the time and loving horror movies. But one time i started spying on some of his work, because some of the manuals and whatnot he had were very graphical; It turned my stomach some images, but at the same time it had a macabre lure- i was seeing the human body and life itself in non colored glasses and in a very dehumanizing way that was novel and intrigued me.
Thats when he talked about his experience and how it number him- and frankly not wanting to be cold and numbed like him i just stoped and kept away from it.
Seeing online isn't the same thing as irl- for the brain it gets pretty close, but its never the same, as one part of the body gets ready other parts know you're in no danger or responsibility; But high exposure to lots of things (even good things) can affect us, and bad things even more. When younger i digged through dark corners online, and more then once found gory threads of anons talking about it- where they mentioned another anon that ended up killing, chopping and posting the pictures online; I also remenber stumbling into gory tumblrs, some of wich had daily posts and a very active tumbler (answering questions and whatnot)- that meant someone was spending hours daily consuming real life gore, thinking about it and craving for more.
Does that mean they all become killers? No. Some? Also doubtly, as thats something someone would probably be inclined to do instead of 'pushed' by media consumption alone- the question is can this sort of thing lean someone with predisposition? Probably yes- and the hard data to measure that is very hard to get or even comprehend, also because people are far too unique and that such a small niche. Most people inclined to this kind of violence would seek and find triggers by theenselves no matter what, and some don't need any trigger of course, but how many do and by how much? How much other aspects of their lives and current situation affect that? Its too many variables- but its easy to see how for most of those folk thats not a healthy behaviour.
Another example: some thug worshiping blogs\tumblrs are amazed by violence in the other style, the non-gory\killer type but the numbing one. Of course most are kids that like to imagine a life of crime they will never indulge in- but ive saw upclose two minors (probably criminals, i live in Rio de Janeiro) talking excitidingly about how some thug was filled with so many bullets parts of him detached in an execution near the entrance of a favela. Apparently neither saw it, they were relating what they heard, but still fascinated by the thing- and i bet they watch that kind of stuff on their phones. It all contributes to numbing violence down, so the day it comes they have a victim at gunpoint they will find it far easier, if not appealing, to act tough and do that violence thenselves. It changed from something horrible to something 'tough', to be proud of.
Point is: you're also talking from your experience. YOU don't get affected by it that way, doesn't mean others don't. Whats different between a kid like that that pulls the trigger and his colleague next to it that chickens out at the last second? How much exposure they had to watching the violence online, how bad is things at their home, their personality, their genetical predisposition, what by how much? That kind of data science can't get. Our tools of research are primitive frankly, since its all assuming things from very basic observation. But for some people from our guts to come sense say that this stuff is definetly not helping anything and probably making things worse.
@@Vincer False assumption what i said is not from my POV, or my anecdotes there are scientific studies that CONCLUDE viewing violence in the form of someone getting shot in the head in a movie like deadpool and/or beheadings in mortal combat even realistic deaths in movies does not lead people to do more violence. Obviously I'm not talking about actually seeing someone getting shot and killed or blown up for irl in front of you in this limited sense i think you are right.
That being said in your case (to a lesser extent) and in the "outliers" those people who ultimatly killed already had those preexisting tendencies or issues before viewing said violence and one could argue would have ended up that way eventually. ( otherwise explain genocides and all the death and killing before the advent of the "online".
In addition to your points about using your "guts" to determine if something makes sense or not, is irrational and stupid. Here is an example:
People felt in their guts the bubonic plague or the black death must have been caused by witches an magic. Wrong.
While our tools for learning about the world may not be perfect is sure as hell better than using our "guts". Those tools show that there is ZERO evidence to suggest such a connection things because if what you say is true then why has the global murder rate been decreasing since the advent of the internet and video games? This single point on its own blows an enormous hole in your argument.
"It has to be harming them but we have no evidence"
Same thing bothered me. And we've had horror movies since before the internet so..?
Hanna Clark ...what? He’s talking about actual murder and killing on camera. That shit is everywhere on the internet and I’ve seen teenagers laughing at that shit all the time
Hanna Clark Hes also witnessed actual death and violence like me and knows the difference between the brutally uncomfortable and horrifying nature of its reality and the feeling you get watching a video of it. Pretty confident that was his point
Scotty Sorenson fair enough
Hanna Clark sorry didn’t mean to come off like an asshole 😞. Was prolly in a bad mood. Take care 🙏
Anyone remember the WPD subreddit? I learned to stay away from Mexico and Brazil forever, that riding bike in Asian countries (mostly China) is a good idea to avoid (if you can), to run when someone pulls a knife, that kids are magnetically-drawn to putting themselves in a position to be killed if left unsupervised, that lying on a train track can be an excruciatingly slow way to go. I can go on but I’ll kill it there.
Don't stay away from Brazil. Stay away from Rio De Janeiro. Hahaha
Oh man your comment made me remember all those vids that i watched on that Subreddit it's really horrible. I still get scared remembering those vids. Hope, Reddit removes it i guess you can't access through the Reddit app
Rafa Matavelli literally St Louis is more dangerous than rio. 66 > 35 homicides per 100,000
As bad as that sub is, I certainly drive more carefully and am more cautious around vehicles because I've seen what can happen if you aren't. It reminds me of a gun safety class I took and the instructor showed a bunch of bullet wounds so we would understand how serious the subject is. In some ways I think it's good to expose yourself to these things before you're possibly put in the situation.
@@rafamatavelli3399 Amazon and Northeast are also hellholes in this country
I think it's funny how when people say the Internet makes people violent they completely forget that it used to be normal to see people get executed or fight to the death.
Or burned alive or the popular hung, strung and quartered and many more crowd favorites.
... and there was a lot more violence. So this checks out.
@@ZyTelevan my point is that there was no Internet and the people where more violent.
Humans are naturally assholes, we don't need the Internet for that.
@@maximellow5745 and lets not forget that : "Crowds of twenty thousand and more would turn out to see them[public executions], including plenty of kids and families who had traveled a great distance to be part of the excitement." Like you said, humans are naturally assholes :D .
"our body doesn't know we're sitting on a couch"
It does, though.
VUTFC dude I stopped the video and was gonna comment but you took the words out of my keyboard. Lmbo Goodman
the body doesn't know we're watching things on a screen and they're not really in front of us
@@SyNcLife That is incorrect.
Lol I I’m blind I thought you wrote “your body doesn’t know your sitting on the couch”
I posted this to another comment, but is just as or more fitting here......"I see alot of him projecting his own inability to seperate fantasy from real life onto everyone else. He straight up says that peoples bodies don't know the difference between a movie and someone being beheaded right in front of them, I call complete bullshit." And I'll ammend that comment as he goes on to say that psychologicaly we can't distinguish the difference either, to which I call further bullshit.
There are people in this world that truly do have issues seperating fantasy from reality, and people that have seen horrible things, and any violence either fantasy or not triggers bad memories, but you cannot say that is the norm, and base all entertainment, news and other content upon that.
We should definitely be studying before and afters of somebody who has actually seen violence, and watches a violent video. With people who have never been in a very violent situation. It may give us more insight on how PTSD effects the natural responses in the body as well as how we could possibly combat this normal response to bring relative ease to the sufferings of the illness.
Years ago I accidentally watched a video where someone fell out of a plane and you see them hit the ground and die. It still bothers me to think about it. I'm even uncomfortable watching those videos where people are doing stupid stunts and fall and injure themselves. I actively avoid violence online because I find it disturbing and I don't want to become desensitized to the suffering of others.
I’ve played my fair share of violent video games in my life and have seen plenty of violent hollywood movies. Both as a kid and as an adult. I knew and still know the difference.
When I see gore (beheadings, etc.); my stomach churns just as much as yours and I feel just as depressed for some time for seeing that.
As a teen; maybe I didn’t feel as sick/depressed after seeing gore but I still felt a very strong empathy for whoever was the victim in those vids (wondering what it would be to lie there knowing my head would get cut off; thinking about the injustice, etc). If anything it’s made me more empathic and averse to gore and violence.
Today I rly do think twice before watching something like that. I realize now that I can’t unsee and unhear what I’ve seen and heard and don’t want those images spooking around in my mind for days on end.
Exactly this. Some people think humans can't tell the difference between real life and video games / movies, but it's definitely possible. Fiction novels are read the same way (second reality / suspension of disbelief).
The thing with Gore sites is there’s a few types of people that research and gorge on this type of content.
There’s those that seek to know the true colours of society beyond the western world. How a diminished justice system, higher poverty and crime rate effects the local population. This often amounts to a level of violence that we can’t comprehend unless we witness it for ourselves. I had no idea the Mexican drug cartels cut people’s faces off, remove their limbs and light them on fire until I watched it. I’d read about it but words don’t accurately describe and there’s always this feeling of doubt about the reality of the violence in literature.
Then there’s those that seek it for sexual gratification. Murder porn, horror, snuff... Those that wish to gain pleasure from the suffering of offers. These people often coincide with those that fantasies about killing, murder and death.
And lastly there’s those that find it humorous, a comfort of darkness in what is already a bleak existence.
Violence is around us but most of us never have the misfortune to see it.
I wouldn’t say visually being subjected to violence has effected me in any negative way. I’ve never been in a fight, I don’t wish to ever be in a fight... but I’ve learnt one thing... I’m very comfortable living in the UK and I don’t see a need to go anywhere that doesn’t have a stable government or law and order anytime soon,
I watch alot of gore, like extreme gore, people getting killed, torn to pieces, filleted alive, shootings. I am a perfectly fine human however, it gives me the reality of this world how it is, I think it made me stronger.
Yea same 🚬
Earlier in time, everyone saw violence and kids also. Violence to other tribes, violence to animals. And no, it wasn't always a "fight or flight" situation. Violence was a part of their environment, so they adapt. It is only a few last centuries when you can find a group of people who do not encounter violence in some way or another, excluding tragic deaths. This man, is an example of that group of people, living under a white blanket. It is good, that we can evolve from that violence, but people must know what is surrounding them and maybe change that in the future. By closing eyes, nothing will change.
Look into the neuroscience research before disliking this. We're not talking about video games here, but actual peoples getting heads cut off.
IvanAndreevich It's hopeless, looking at these comments. It seems like they are just not listening or haven't taken a basic biology, physiology course or even psychology. The idiocracy is a real thing. I notice people don't have even the most basic understanding of how their body and mind work, and everyone thinks they are so smart they don't have to consider another point of view. Disagree, sure but at least try to understand exactly one is disagreeing with. Some of these people want to believe they are so tough, and can not be affected by a beheading, if you are not affected something is abnormal about that. Not normal, in terms of how the average human would respond. That is part of the question the man is posing. People are being desensitized to, what only a couple decades ago would be considered extreme violence.
I've been online since 2003 and never saw someone's head being cut off, so it's really up to who's going online and what they're looking for.
You're missing out on reality, brother
Sticks and stones will be my bones, but words will never hurt me.
But there is no 'un-see' button...
Sticks and stones will BREAK my bones, not "be" my bones. LOL
'Playing violent video games just makes you more awesome' - Neil Degrasse Tyson.
It's good practice. You don't freeze then when the video game turns into larp.
I certainly drive more carefully and am more cautious around vehicles because I've seen what can happen if you aren't. It reminds me of a gun safety class I took and the instructor showed a bunch of bullet wounds so we would understand how serious the subject is. In some ways I think it's good to expose yourself to these things before you're possibly put in the situation.
Most people can watch fictional violence because they know it is just that, fictional. Of course I would not watch real violence.
The big problem is these days no one blinks an eye seeing someone being dismembered or brutally stabbed anymore on media. Unless it happens to them directly, you will turn a blind eye. The fact the 18 or 16 on a film or video game doesn't mean 18 or 16 to the rest of the public unless you're a Christian, is the sad reality
Violence is real. This is like someone saying "society will suffer if we let violent westerns continue" in the 50's. The notion that some people shouldn't be exposed to it is actually extreme privilege.
I had consume gore videos at a young age and man I had looked away for almost every video, after awhile I kept going back to it due to my curiosity of what the outside world is really like beyond the land of the free. And I can tell you I hated myself for doing that, I couldn’t sleep, I had nightmares I also day dreamt almost everyday thinking about those people going through such agony from evil. It came to a point I thought of my family and how close I want everyone to be and out of danger because I wouldn’t know losing a love one to horrible people like that.
I try to train my body and mind to become dangerous to scare anyone who opposes my family and not show weakness but in the end people need to understand it’s not the violence that sets it all, it’s the distance they are prepared to go, many things about humans scare me till this day and I want to seek therapy for it.
I watched a very gruesomely, violent series, and woke up at night feeling like I was about to pass out, cold sweat, palpitations! I hadn't experienced that for a while, and I was trying to figure out why! I was wondering if it was a heart problem or clot or something else. I called 911, and they put me in a monitor, but didn't really find anything. I'm starting to wonder if watching that violence caused my body to react this way! I've been checked before, and they never find anything. I'm never watching anymore violence, and will see if the problem occurs again. If it does, then I'll have to go back to the doctor, it doesn't, then I've learned something valuable, that no one talks about!
Lucky you. He's talking about real life violence.
None because we go over this over and over and over.
Small Think
I'm experiencing emotional numbness after watching graphic contacts repeatedly,Im becoming less nervous.
What about when they watch too much of gore, violence, abuse, Any messed up things to the point they become desensitized, is it PTSD?
It'll depend on the type and 'amount' of violence consumed, means by which it's consumed and which psychological effects are studied, since 'psychological effects' underlie all action/inhibition.. Excited for the vid though, hope it's not mumbo jumbo.
Food for thought: I physically feel pain whenever I see someone get hurt, even in a movie. So, watching people get hurt isn't particularly my favorite pastime, either. However, that pain connection only lasts as long as I don't tell myself, "it's just a recording; it isn't real." So, the point about "our body doesn't know we're sitting on our couch" doesn't exactly hold much water when it's definitely possible to know of, and be aware of, the fact that i'm sitting on a couch (or a computer chair, in this case, I guess). My main point is that, while I don't particularly enjoy playing violent video games, or consuming violent media, because it does pain me on occasion, I can dull that pain by injecting reality, and by saying "it simply isn't real. It's an image on a screen, a collection of pixels." I find that, for the same / a similar reason, some people don't find themselves fearful of horror movies. Sure, I still feel people's pain and suffering whenever I see someone in pain or suffering in real life, but I don't think that video games / movies are a good analogy to real life - they're curated, and acted out; they're not real.
Mario: ‘it’s a me...go a commit a da violent crime’
witnessing violence in person knowing the danger and consequences is completely different.
You mean as compared to real life violence?
Dr of psychology ? I'm not , but the question , violence on line . Well how suseptable to suggest ion are you ? The games have suggested content between character s . The music can move them to act . The pictures most times show grafic imagaes of destructive be havior , and this goes on for hours . You tell me ?
By long-term your psychological will be damaged. it's either by loss of empathy or worst. 2nd hand trauma . And any worst reaction to us when you come to like it.
You need to stop worrying about violence online, in films and in games, and worry about the violence on your fucking plates and the shit storm that it is causing.
Hello :) Very interesting topic :) I know that many people critisise tv shows and games for too much violence. I agree that too much violence for just a violence is not a good thing. But I would like to ask about the other face of a coin (sorry if I m doing mistakes I m not very fluent in English). So, my question is what about empathy? Does too much violence gathering by our brains via media makes us more violent and less empathic? Or - and this is my guess - some frames of violence seeing on the screen of tv makes us even more empathic and caring for anothers pain? :) What about the moment when we absorb violence but in such way that we care for a charachter, a hero even more - we stick for the heroes becouse they suffer innocently, or becouse they suffer for a great case? And for example we can be more caring and empathic after seeing a historic movie about historic violence for example - being more caring toward animals after seeing a movie about cats burning on stake during the medieval wiches trials?
Please think about the case when some better games and movies - even though violent - make us more empathic and caring and becouse of them we can think more about ethics. Recently I've heard that "The Whicher 3" game is one of those games which can make gamers think more about ethical issues, and not only fighting and massacres. Not every violence is a bad thing. Art can be about violence too, but thats not a bad thing :) Thats my guess. :)
We as humans were evolutionary equipped for being inside a violent action. :) This is not the same as doing it to others, or even not the same as liking to see it in tv and be happy with it. But we are equipped evolutionary for withstanding the scenes of violence. Thats my guess :)
What do u think? :)
I used to strongly oppose the view that violent games and movies have a significant negative impact. But I'm more open to it now because I think it could produce a subconscious need to be violent. You see (or play) so many heroes saving the day with violence, that part of your subconscious says: "I want some of that". Still skeptical, but Sebastian Junger was one of my favorite guests on JRE. He reports veterans or war refugees longing for the experience they escaped from, as it was fulfilling (or igniting?) deep-seated longings for comradery survival and sense of purpose.
Woah video games and movies are diffrent one is watched one is played you dont watch the piano do you?
I think that children with a bad domestic situation (whatever your definition of that may be) are especially susceptible to the things you are describing. When a child grows up with morals, values and a emphatic compass (again, this is totally up to the reader what they would entail) I think the influences of violent entertainment are next to none.
Watching the progress of screen violence over time, the goalposts continue to be pushed further and further. "IF" no harm has been done so far, how far will this be permitted to go, virtual reality is in its infancy, so what then?
Whatever half-baked thought Sebastian is trying to put out needs to be completely inverted. In once sense he is correct in that subjecting ourselves to this violence is causing us harm; because this stuff is depressing.
The problem is the reverse... people who are disconnected from real world violence. Those who simply choose to leave it out of their minds and not subject themselves. They have disconnect with reality.
Politicians who order violent acts... take holidays when their country is in crisis... corporations utilising sweat shops, investors funding deforestation resulting in the killings of indigenous people.
The problem is not those who consume violence, but those that consume none.
The same argument was used against violence in movies and video games and both never were able to show any evidence. Crome stats seem to indicate that as video game violence was on the uptake, crime rates went down. I am not a fan of watching real-world violence, but I understand the appeal that makes for many. (sports, shock and awe, or otherwise)
It's got me pissed giving the bullying dealt with
I Watched the news …. they are scarier , and I can't chose what the news are , but I can chose on what link to click ….
Really? Is it scarier? I've never seen any media show someone's head being ripped off... but I've seen that and worse online... what are you talking about?
@@daniels.os. 1st of all why do you watch people get theirs head chop off ?
2nd yes things like this do end up in the news. They don't show the full footage but, but still they covered it.
@@dkq2k No, I don't watch them. But it is reachable online. I saw it once, it was traumatic.
I can't see that explicit gore on media.
So, again... how can media news be worse than explicit graphic uncensored gore footage available online? Are u ok?
@@daniels.os. Well the media is talking about every day 3 times a day .... On the internet you can find them only if you are looking for it.
@@dkq2k So... is someone forcing you to watch the news, uh? You are as free to watch the news as free to search online, my dear. So, stop the bullshit. Media is not scarier than the deep web. Argue what you want but u know I am right.
Except violence as a part of our stories throughout history (from Plato to Shakespeare to Stephen King to the visual representation of Game of Thrones) has undoubtedly had similar effects, meaning it must not have that much of an effect besides radicalizing some while simply entertaining others (leaning in the 'net positive' direction because people who listen to stories are more often than not citizens who have no associations with a violent lifestyle like in that of a military).
About the only difference between stories with violence in them and 'violence online' is how they're consumed because the human imagination can be just as vivid as, if not more so, than seeing it depicted in a movie or a video online.
The universe, and therefore the world, is a violent place, and that's essentially never going to change because of the universe's hostility toward life itself. We may have stumbled into and evolved to become compatible with our world, but... leaving the atmosphere without a way to survive is a very quick reminder that the world, and the universe, will NEVER be sunshine and rainbows.
TL;DR depicting (or viewing) violence isn't an inherently bad or negative thing. uncivilized, sure, but the world around us is about far more than civilization, and that's what makes life interesting.
EDIT: Yikes, I'm not the only one who noticed this guy didn't make much of a point XD protip: read the comments before commenting
Im from israel i saw a lot of gore at the last war. I feel that really fucked me up😢
maybe you should get the fuck out of a country that's not yours so there wont be any war hm?
Great point ❤ gotta be mindful!
Yeah... NO! This is the same argument as "violent games makes people violent/scared". Not a SINGLE shred of evidence here. :/
I do wonder how it effects young developing minds. But for me an old guy, watching violence is for educational reasons to better myself in self defense. Go to Active Self Protection channel and you will see what I'm talking about. I have to see the good guys prevailing more than the bad guys though. If I watch too many clips with criminals winning it causes me to get depressed. Violence is part of life on earth, so it doesn't pay to put blinders on. Learn from the mistakes of others and be vigilant...maintain situational awareness and spiritual fitness always and train for the types of scenarios that can occur. Realize that criminals think differently than you, so compliance does not always work. You can be shot point blank for simply being in the way.
We don't always know what we are doing is not something we would consent to nor are we always given a choice, just like life can be, but if we are given a choice to remember not to be involved in anything you wouldn't be involved with in real life is a healthy thing to encourage.
"A famous person thinks something! They must be an expert on whatever! Let's put that on the internet as though he actually has knowledge in this field."
Good job, Big Think.
Nowhere near all the gratuitous violence that we see in films and soap operas
I ended up here because of some gore video I watch I was looking on self defence videos and some how I ended watching this guy recording a women she was beaten soo much her face is swell, so much blood is allover floor and her clothes then he grabbed a gun start waving around her face but she was totally unfazed like she gave up I couldn't continue anymore of that. But I couldn't take her out of my mind how helpless she was, how easily anyone can end up in that situation, what she did to him, so many questions. Gore video can sometime good to make you not to forget how evil this world is, but if you are like me emotionally bonded to victims like that can mess your mind.
The question itself is simplistic and wrong. It’s here to push a narrative.
What is the psychological effect of consuming psychobabble online?
Maybe he is right... who knows. For me is too late, I lost all hope in humanity.
Sick speculation. This is really what I come to Big Think for.
It is a interesting question. But it's the kind of question that is best left to Psychologists and Psychological Scientists. In general science should always be left to scientists and professionals in the field in question. Because scientists and professionals in a given field are the only ones who have the knowledge, experience and work in the given field to give their answers any real weight.
What about reading a good story by E. A. Poe? Does your body know you're just reading a story?
How about some evidence?
This guy looks like a business man who just woke up in a trailer park...
I’ve seen so many beheading, suicide and homicide videos online. It made me really depressed over time. Yall don’t watch this stuff. Im in movie gore for lifee:p
Makes me glad I grew up with the Andy Griffith show and homer Pyle not what's on nowadays
Perfect for the citizens of countries who wage war in other countries 🙄
The youtube recommended this to me? I watch WWII for the history, for the learning bit.
This guy is perma-triggered.
You want to believe that seeing violence in a game or movie is harming? Imagine letting them live a mundane suburban life and then they grow up to discover that the world is a dangerous place filled with people enacting atrocities and horror upon each other. I'd prefer to ween them into the fucked up shit in this world using media entertainment than have them stumble on some shit later in life that shatters their safety bubble.
Violence is in human's nature though. Better to "out" it through the means of entertainment then harming a fellow person.
As a massive big brain zoomer, this boomer doesn't make any sense
it is not just the Internet but movies, TV shows and even music. Like John Wick (AKA my favorite), it’s stucked in my head for quite a while, and somehow at the same times, normalizes the perception of violence.
If(lack of self control && knowledge of killing methods && reason to kill) {killer};
I thought it was going to talk about videogames
✌️ Norman Peale famously said change your thoughts and you change your world. The main man @evenkingsfall (his insta) always says you have to THINK BIG to WIN BIG! Always keep that mindset! Looking forward to your next video 🙏
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I need bestgore merch!
This man has seen some shit
Your body doesn’t know your sitting in the couch.😘
Nothing. Fake narrative. Very sad. This has been proven fake!
Simmer down. They haven't actually said anything yet. I airs in 8 hours 🙄
Oh nevermind they tipped their hand in the description.
But yeah research is clear. Increase in violent fantasies but a sharp decrease in violent behaviour. But they try to spin that as something bad.
Proving they are more concerned about controlling your private thoughts than reducing actual violence.
This was...underwhelming....
I usually start my day with coffee and a beheading video
Bullshit video that shouldn't be put on your channel. Where's the big thinking here? "I has to be harming" - that's it?
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agree.
What is this stammering nonsense
Internet trolls all over the comments...😂
Oh urry up would ya... I gotta pick up the kids from the piano... I mean 🤔 the library 😌