Turbo Snow Removal! Direct Attach vs. Loader Attach Front Blades for Compact Tractors
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2022
- Does the turbocharger provide any 'boost' for snow removal? Which is better? Direct Attach or Loader Attach snow blade? Johnny X proves that he is up for the challenge of moving this large snowfall.
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Why is watching snow roll of the plow so satisfying?
54" blower on the same mount on my 1025R. For the gravel driveway, I just lower the shoes until I have a good base so as to throw fewer rocks. I run the thing all over the yard. Around the garage. Out to the burn pile. Up the hill for the kids' sled run. Make a nice path for the propane delivery, they appreciate that. Don't get me wrong, there are times a plow would be nice, but the blower moves snow way further off the beaten path. Keep bringing the great content!
I Agree 👍👍
💥 Once again Christy, Thanks for the awesome camera shots! This video is excellent. 👍
*Keep on tractoring!*
I agree with you, the hydraulic angle on the blade would be a “must”. I see you didn’t suffer from lack of power😉. You and Johnny X did a great job on the snow, and Christy was again “The Super Trooper” to brave the elements and make it all fun to watch. What a team! Blessings.
I remember when you were using a Case mini-excavator. I hadn't realized I had not subscribed. I am now subscribed and thoroughly enjoyed watching hing this video. Great content as usual! The sound quality is probably the best I've heard on ANY videos of numerous other channels! Loved hearing the tractor leg down as you opened the driveway apron! Great video Tim, hoping to upgrade to a Deere diesel tractor that you've got before too long. Best wishes for you and yours for 2022!
Thanks for the kind words, Tom!
It's amazing that God gives you all that land, money, equipment, even a YT channel, while others struggle just to put food on the table, or even keep warm. God is so good.
Its amazing how many questions you answered for me just watching the video!! Thank you for all you do for us DIYers
Tim. Plowing snow is my kind of winter sports. I love watching the snow roll off the blade.
Great video Tim! This snowplow video is so satisfying
Great video Tim and Christy. I have a gravel driveway about a half mile long so keeping rocks out of the yard is a huge challenge. The "float" position using the loader-mounted Frontier AF10F plow simply puts too much weight down on the skid shoes if you don't have a snow pack underneath. My solution was to purchase two 12" smooth edge disc blades like you would use on a field plow and weld them to the existing shoes. They are dish shaped like the skid shoes and a much larger surface area to distribute the weight and let the blade float across even loose gravel.
awesome!!!! love the snow removal and trying different options!!!! Great job!
Tim, your having toooooo much fun! In the past I plowed my drive but in recent years I switched to a snow blower. Best wishes.
All the snow this winter has brought on some great content!
Good morning so enjoy watching snow removal videos.
Definitely fun to watch Johnny X just throw the snow in high gear! 40 degrees and rain in Iowa today, stay warm!
The drone footage keeps getting better and better!
In 2001, snow that fell in January/February between you and West Lafayette was still on the ground in the ditches along I65 in May. A couple years prior to that saw Christmas day at least in southern Indiana hit over 65F followed by New Years day having a high around 5F. If there's one constant about the weather in my home state, it is the variability :)
I spent most of the early 2000s in central California. There, if the daily highs were more than three degrees different from day to day, my coworkers complained about how much the weather changed, not to mention the lady who was "absolutely freezing, having to wear a cap and gloves and everything" when it was 55F outside.
Very nice video tim and kristie and Johnny turbo ploughing easy with the snow 👌💪
I think I would also prefer this setup than the other one, beautiful day for snow removal 👍🏻. Have a great weekend to you both 🙋🏼♂️🙂👍🏻
A good old-fashioned snow plow video, always a winner (for a Texas boy). Great drone footage.
Fun to watch and listening to the machine run too !!
Great video, We don't have a lot of snow in east central Alabama. I enjoyed watching you work with Johnny
Love my blower. Throw that snow as far as you can. Takes less time than a blade. Great video. Was fun watching you plow.
Great video Tim Christie looks like she was having a really good time even if it was 18°
I love that blade, so smooth at the rolling of snow. I Plowed Roads for 15 years with a Sander/salt spread gravity down Big front Snow plow. Side angle. YES you are so right. We would get three plow trucks out on the main highway through town. And the removal of snow off right of way with just a gravity down Plow worked wonders.
Tim, get rid of that stone and bring in some asphalt reclaim. Stuff will pack down like cement and you won't have to worry about any springtime clean-up. A stone driveway is a pain in areas you get snow. Great vid!
Love the new exhaust tone on Johnny X!
I can definitely see the advantage to that type of plow
Good video
Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow. Enjoy the removal process Tim. I hope Christy's keeping warm out there?
Use to have one years ago by far best way to move snow. Very quick. Low cost. Easy storage. Angle a must have. Chains on the back tires make this the perfect setup.
I love snow plowing. I bought a John Deere x570 last year and needed a snow plow so I built a hydraulic plow from scratch I have a few videos of it in action you might like! Great video y’all keep it up
I know this is an old video but I'm really only just getting cought up on you guys. I love seeing this setup again. It takes me back to the old videos. My wife and I have a small farm and have a Ford 3000 with a front end Loader as well as a Satoh Buck Compact with a loader and four wheel drive. Last summer we aquired a Ford LGT165 garden tractor (we like em blue lol) it was the first time I'd plowed snow with a little garden tractor and blade since I was in my 20s. I've been using a larger tractor with loader ever since and after all these years and with all this other equipment I still say an angle blade on a little tractor is the best way to go
Looks like a great setup for your locale. I live with northern Wisconsin weather which needs a bit more. I have an old pickup plow mounted on a SSQA plate on the Workmaster 55 loader. I keep the plow shoes set fairly high and run the lift chain loose. This gives me good float, doesn’t pick up much stone from the drive but still allows me to build tall snow banks.
Hey Tim: I have a 1023e with a 54 inch snow blower and I wouldn't be without it. We traded in a 350 with a belt drive blower after one year because it couldn't cut it. We were forever breaking shear pins so frequently I had my pockets full of them and tools to replace them. In the three years since we moved up to the 1023e we have never broken a shear pin. We could use the turbo kit though as when we are moving heavy deep snow the rpm sometimes drops to around 2000 under load. Sometimes the snow here in the Kawartha Lakes region of Ontario is so deep the drift cutters are barely visible in the drifts. I also have the heavy hitch with 8 suitcase weights on the 3 point hitch and I don't need to put on the chains. The only thing with the blower is you always need to be aware of which way the wind is blowing or else you end up eating snow. Cheers.
Great video Tim I like how that blade works. Excellent job Christy video taping love the drone shots.
Here I am again watching this video! Can't wait to push some snow!
That machine is impressive!
Those are great plows. Had one on a 4100 where I worked that was great. I just prefer a loader mounted now as I use my loader for other things all winter and can take the plow on and off as needed. More snow please here. Great video Tim and Christy. 👍✊
Just got this setup for my 2320, definitely the way to go if you don't get big snows. We got 8" here in sw ohio last week, this plow shined, cut my plow time in half!
Hey Tim..Very impressed with the performance of Johnny X and that plow. I can definitely see why you really like that plow...especially with Johnny X's new found power...LOL!
The 54 inch blade with wings works great. Great video. Just got the Curtis plow for the Gator, installing it now.
It works well too. Only issue is not enough hands to hold the control.
Great Video!!!
When you have to plow near a trailer or a building make your first pass 4’ or so away from the object. When you make the second pass closer to the object you shouldn’t have to worry about getting pushed into it. It also helps keep the excess snow from overflowing onto what your plowing away from.
Nice setup👍
what a powerhouse Jonny x has shown to be...
Lady and the Tramp! I'm sure I'm not the first in the comments to answer with that but we did just watch that movie within the last month or so with the girls. I liked hearing your opinion on the blade. I tried a snow blade on my tractor during that last snow and was impressed by how much it could push. I'm ready to switch back to the mower now though. Enough winter for me :) Nice video guys.
Me too! Watched a spring video yesterday…saw the dark green grass! Made me ready for spring!
Here in Minnesota, I was out driving around and noticed huge piles of snow pushed up after the 14+ inch's we got a few weeks ago and you could tell who blows their snow and who pushes their snow and It seemed to me that the snow blowed properties were a lot cleaner looking ,Than the ones that were using tractors with loaders, I enjoy all of you and christy's videos and wish I was there helping you guy's. God Bless
Awesome - always a pleasure to view your videos.
Hey Scott! Good to hear from you. Thanks for watching!
Looks like a lot of fun
The one major benefit to a loader-attached system (and you did broach the subject) is the ability to hoist the snow as you pile it up, which may be a key to the operation depending on snow frequency and how your driveway/lot is set up. Great video and fun to watch!
Love the drone shots
I have the same plow for my 1023e and love it.
I have a JD 318 garden tractor (down) that I have the snow/pow blade setup and really miss it this year. Like you I enjoy plowing. Only thing missing on my setup is the hydraulic angling. Great video.
I live in FL now, but grew up in N. Ill. I actually miss plowing snow. Used to use a JD317 garden tractor with basically the same blade. Didn't have the HP your setup has, but it still was fun. The blizzard of 1978 was a great time, I plowed 1/4 mile of road before the road crews made to us. Great memories!
It is relaxing watching these types of videos, have a great weekend.
Thank you! You too!
Thanks ya'll! 56 degrees here today, quite unusual but hey I'll take it. You really hear and see the working grunt of the Johnny X with the turbo. What a difference. (Still wish J. Deere would take note and follow) I'm like you, I prefer the blade closer to the tractor. Seems to work better in concert with the tractor. Christy you are becoming quite the expert with your drone operation and of course when counseling Tim! LOL! Stay blessed!
Your having too much fun on that little Johnny 😁😁👍🏼
I do have a 47in snow thrower. I love it. I went with the forward hook up not on the three point. This year I went with my bucket because of the gravel driveway
I enjoy plowing snow. Like watching it done too.
Still enjoying your videos. Have a wonderful day
Thanks for watching!
That little plow can move a lot more than I expected! I like using a large bucket on our skid then I can move it all and not worry about drifting from the piles that a blade makes. Took a bit with the 12" heavy snow last time.
Fantastic setup. You've got the weight and 4WD. For my long (400') driveway I use a stand up snow blower for deep snow 6" plus and clean up using my garden tractor with a 4' blade. Your setup is a plus since you have the torque of the diesel motor, plus 4WD, and the blade is the perfect height. The JD 1025 is a fantastic sub-compact tractor. My personall favorite is the blade on a sub-compact tractor. Snow blowers are great for deep snow. A blade and snow blower covers all bases.
Love the Gen-X vid! That Tractor is tuff like Gen-X'rs
Enjoy all your videos! Very informative and useful. My name is also Tim from Wisconsin and just bought a 1025r and love it 😀 . Keep up the good work. Now I need to order some of your coffee ☕️s .
As always I enjoyed the video very much and I agree when u said about it being fun to watch , probably the main reason I love winter is that I get To go out and plow snow , makes me feel like a kid again lol
Enjoyed watching your videos and find myself wishing I had my tractor still not there yet but hopefully one day soon was fun watching you play on Johnny x
Thanks for watching. You’ll get it someday! Keep working at it!
No hesitation with Johnny X to push the snow banks!
Morning Tim.
Love it Tim. Like the drone footage. Thanks again. I have the same setup. Works great in my flatland property in southeastern Michigan.
Bill
I enjoyed this video!
I like this set up better than the loader plow. It appears you have more tractor control and it may be that the turbo extra power helps as well. Either way it’s doing a great job with that amount of snow ❄️ Have a Blessed Day
As someone who pushes snow for a living, that little tractor has got some umph!! Great video as always Tim.
Yea, kinda surprised. It was a light and fluffy snow, but the turbo really does seem to help.
…and surprised I had enough traction to push that much.
@@TractorTimewithTim yes definitely. Imagine adding a bit more weight on that thing. The snow it could push!
You mentioned drifting I use a blower because of the drifting. You can blow it in the direction the wind blows and minimize drifting. Plus down and back you’re done. Much quicker. If you hear rocks stop and lift up to prevent rocks in the yard. Love your videos.
Interesting video, Tim. I have a 758 with a 54 blower. I've never had any interest in a plow before. But after watching this video I might consider getting a blade.
Very nice video!
A lot of snow there. I'm glad we missed it this time. Our last significant snow left my driveway drifted over with 18" to 30" between the previous storms snow berms. The snow was so smooth I couldn't tell where my driveway was. It took me 2 days to clear it with my little Ford and Edge Tamer equipped bucket so UPS could get through. It's 2600 feet and hilly.
This is my first season using the quick hitch 60” blade. Unfortunately Deere never really published a manual for this dedicated to the 1025r. Makes it challenging to remember how to install it. Seems to be fitting the bill well, but I have wondered if I would have been better off going with a plow on my loader arms. Of course, then I would need the 3rd function to pivot the plow. Happy with what I have as it is working fine.
Another great video! thanks! You really need to get Johnny X a nice paint job... some hot rod flames and red paint or something!!
I’m going to have to start a channel called “Tim made me do it”. Started following you a few months ago and tomorrow I am taking delivery of a new 1025R that the guys at the dealership were calling the Swiss Army knife of tractors. 🤦♂️🤷♂️😝
Great video! I agree that the front quick hitch with the angling and float availability is excellent! The only thing to add regarding fitment is that the 2020 and new 1025R's seem to have a slightly different quick hitch than the 2019 and older. You should consider upgrading to the 60" front blade! You could then add the plow extensions if you still feel the need for them, but you'd have more blade coverage over the 54".
I would be curious where you heard that they are moving away from the quick hitch option and moving to a front 3 point hitch option? I ordered a 2020 1025R with the 60" quick hitch front blade and heard nothing about moving away from this. Below is a video from a previous plowing event I had, with my setup. I also looked at the attachments brochure online for the 1025Rs and if you go to page 19, you'll see they still have offerings for the 54" front blade (60" isn't listed but it does exist because I have it haha). They also have listings for the front quick hitch for the 1023E/1025R. It's not until you step up to the 3 Series, do they say you need to get the front 3 point hitch (second link). It could be that the brochure is not up to date and they've brought it down to the 2 Series now. Just curious though where you heard this.
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I agree with you Tim on the direct attach blade. I think the added downpressure has to do with the geometry of the loader arms. I believe with the loader down, it might be past the center line, so front pressure causes the loader to try to go down even more. I know my G1800 is nothing like your 1025, but the front snow blade works the same. Thanks for sharing, J
Great job, Tim. That plow does work really nicely. Great comparison between this and the loader mount snow plow. That’s one thing about our loader mounted plow, I can’t get the snow to roll off and I hesitate to go faster. I do like the ability to stack it higher because we get snow after snow. -Chad
Have you tried the popular comments: wax the blade (this really does help for me). PAM...this doesn't help much for me. ..and let the blade get cold before you touch the snow with it.
The award definitely goes to Christy for braving the work. Tim was playing more than working.
Exactly!
Hey Tim let's see a snowblower on Johnny x
Tim, I have the MTD snow plow on my lawn tractor. To make it easier pre-pay your blade with PAM cooking spray. Slides off better and no snow sticking to the blade.
I like that plow it works great 👍
I have a 1023e w/ Deere's direct attach 60" blade and 54" snowblower and I love it. I also have the OTC cab (thanks for the ttwt discount). I like how this blade works in float mode and with the blade close to the front of the tractor with no ballast box it keeps the tractor short in snow configuration. To me, the down side of this setup is how it basically locks up my tractor for winter use only. Approaching 70 years young what is required to remove the direct attach kit and snowblower drive to reinstall the loader arms if I need to use my pallet forks or grapple is a getting to be a bit much. (must be nice to have multiple tractors :-)) I upgraded to this setup from a small lawn tractor with 42" blade for snows up to about 8" and a walk behind snowblower for the deeper stuff. Having now seen what the 1023e can move I'm thinking the snowblower is overkill for my needs and trading the plow/hitch/snowblower for a FEL mount plow. If I get anything too deep for that plow there's always the FEL bucket with Edge Tamers (I'm retired so if it takes all day playing in the snow with my tractor... :-)) This way I'll have use of my grapple and pallet forks with minimal back pain between snowstorms. PS: You only need driveway markers for the first snow. If they get buried while plowing no problem. You now have the snowbank marking your driveway. I usually put mine in a foot or two off the side of the driveway and don't worry if they get pushed over or buried.
Watching snow roll off the front blade is as satisfying as turning dirt with a plow. Speaking from experience with all forms of snow removal and with you only seeing 1 snow like this a year, it wouldn't be cost effective for you to have a blower on a 1025. They are crazy expensive plus unless you have a nice hard packed base to start with, you'll be launching stones as far as it can throw along with grinding up the inner impeller throat with that road base rock. I've finally gotten into a new home with 400ft black top driveway and later added a bunch of road base for a turn around and trailer parking areas and still have to be mindful of not using blower too early in the season in that area especially if vehicles or house windows in range. I've added 1/4" UHMW sheet curled in the throat to save the blower and help blow snow further. But this gravel area I will gently blade with higher clearance and pack 2" into it for a thicker base before attempting to go over with a JD 47 blower. Its up 1" for clearance but the stones still manage to get in there and tossed depending on contours or if the blade scalped the area previously. Part 2 of that prob for you would be you don't have a power sweeper broom (yet) and we might learn some new curse words come spring when time to get them out of your lawn :)
That was a good snow and you looked like you had fun. I have a 54" snow blade that I used on an old 1974 John Deere 140 lawn and garden tractor that I still have. After watching this video I think I will try to add extensions on it like you did and see if I can adapt it to fit on my 2038r.
Artillian.com for extensions.
Tim you have a lot of drive way to plow. That just means more time on a johnny. Have fun no matter how you look at it.
I have struggled with a lot of the same issues you have. One is having to make multiple passes with deeper snow to clean up over-spill, traction issues, and large bank issues. 99% of my plow customers have gravel driveways which is always a challenge. I have never tried a snow pusher but have used pretty much every other means of moving snow. This year I purchased a snow blower for my 5075E and it's the bomb for deep snow. Granted it's slower, but it's one pass, and it's gone. No build-up. I extended the skid shoes so it leaves around 2" on the ground minimizing gravel problems. Then do a quick pass with the blade to take it down as far as the conditions allow. You are in a unique situation where you have multiple tractors that are not doing much during the winter months. You could have one set up with a front blower, another with a blade, and another with a pusher. My blower is rear mounted which is kind of a pain-in-the-neck, literally but not too bad. This allows me to have the blade on the front. There isn't mush I can't tackle with this setup. I used to have to deal with drifts with the bucket. I still use it sometimes in uncharted territory that I don't know what's under the snow. You might want to give it a try. It's way faster and more efficient. I love running the blade the most too but if you're doing it commercially you have to be more efficient. The fewer times you have to move the same snow the better.
Christy,
Nice video. Love the drone footage.
Bill
Those tires are terrific in the snow! The R4 tires that came on my Massey refuse to hookup in the snow. Thanks for another great video!
Yep r- 4 tires are for running on the road
Good Works Tractors did a video, or maybe two, showing how to cut groves in the R4's and his newfound traction was pretty impressive. But stock, Versaturf is way better than R4 in the snow.
@@carlstrohm3785 I saw that episode and considered doing it. Too many projects, not enough time. Lol.
I run a X739 with a 54 blade. also got a 47 blower for the 1-2ft storms.. but i love the blade!!
I also added a 3 inch C channel to top of plow to make plow higher
I built a plow for my loader on the 2032r and absolutely love it. It has alot to do with the design of the float setup on the plow and skid placement I can scrape a driveway to the concrete and go down the gravel or across the lawn without digging up grass or rock without changing anything besides the curl angle. The float position on the hydraulics have never worked we for plows lol been there.
Nice video. looks like fun. Up in Canada in the snow belt we can get a foot or 2 a day for a week straight. Some years I have pics that I can walk up on the cottage roofs in winter. So for us a blower is a must.
However a blade to make a base is also a must to stop blowing gravel on the lawns. Nice to have a blade for the start and a blower to blow your piles back so you can push again. Now you have to have 2 tractors. I don't mine have 2 Kubota's. No Johnny here.
Thanks for the discount code. Ordered a Skid-Lift 2230 s today.
WooHoo! Very handy!
I liked this video. I have a 1025 and I plowed snow with the front attached plow but I didn't like that I couldn't pile the snow very high. I built a loader mounted plow and I love it. I have hydraulic angle on the blade. After I mount on the loader I curl the loader all the way back and lower to the ground. Then I release all the pressure and unhook the 2 hoses and hook up the hoses for the swivel. The curl will stay all the way back with hoses unhooked. I had trouble with the steering with the blade angled and I found I could put put 5 42# weights on the bracket on the front of the machine with the loader mounted. Took care of the steering problem. I have a rubber cutting on the plow and it slides over the rocks on the driveway. You have to see it to believe how well it works. Have a good day.
Was beautiful for a while pushing 40s last couple days and rain tonight 8 inches is gone back to grass in most spots .
Call me weird but it’s so satisfying watching you push snow.
I enjoy it too…as I mentioned in the video.
@@TractorTimewithTim and I’m sure it’s great when you’re behind the wheel!
Good Afternoon Tim & Christie…You both live in a really nice place!! I would really like to put a turbo on my B 3350!! Right now we have a front loader on our tractor but I have always preferred a plow!! This year we have really gotten the snow but the last heavy snow season was 2013. I have snow piled in my circle 7 ft high! in some places. Love the snow but there are times when I hate to plow though….