Is Luna's + Magnificent Howl the Best Hand Cannon Now? (Damage Test) | Destiny 2 Into the Light
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- With the recent release of Luna's Howl, we decided to do a damage test to see how it stacks up against some of our top tier DPS hand cannons.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:22 Crimson
0:45 The Last Word
1:08 Spare Rations (Rapid Hit / Kinetic Tremors)
1:31 Hawkmoon
2:17 Ace of Spades
2:38 Warden's Law (4th Time's the Charm / Vorpal Weapon)
3:19 Malfeasance
4:01 Seventh Seraph Officer Revolver (4th Time's the Charm / Vorpal Weapon)
4:32 Luna's Howl (Subsistence / Magnificent Howl)
5:18 Crota's End (Demolitionist / Precision Instruemnts)
6:10 Eriana's Vow
6:47 Warden's Law (4th Time's the Charm / Vorpal Weapon)
7:17 Doubters Complaining
7:24 VOD Review
7:45 Outro
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Doubters getting a segment in the video is gold 😂
My streamer is a scammer in RuneScape and he continues to scam us on our eggies.
_GOD PLEASE CROSS!_ 😂
The diference between wardens law and eriana's vow is 899 damage. Thats actually insane
So basically splitting hairs.
@@bohba13 Warden's is definitely better though as it neither takes special ammo, or takes up your Exotic slot.
I do wish they'd buff Eriana's though, is has seriously been powercrept hard in multiple ways.
Wardens law got that high of damage cause all crits were hit. The first time, cross hit a body shot.
@@iiRooB yeah. That is true. It needs some more juice. Would upping the precision damage buff that is part of its kit work? (Leaving it untouched in pvp)
@@bohba13 That would be a nice addition. It would also be nice if it broke barrier shield faster, maybe in one shot like and energy slot Arbalest.
Not Cross' chat trying to gaslight him over the Eriana's Vow damage numbers 😂
Wardens Law on that final try really just said: fuck you Eriana
Spoiler its not
Thank you
Sadly 🥲
My friend thanks
*gasp*
Don’t even have to watch the video to know that. Getting as many hits in as possible as quickly as possible is what makes a handcannon so good with Lucky Pants. Not the damage perks.
Wake up babe, new Aztecross damage test just dropped
nothing new, he does these and we know the answer.
As faulty as always. 🤷♂️
@@KaeptnBollethat’s the biggest problem with these tests. they are real or consistent
As a warlock main, I’ve wanted a good 140 solar handcannon for my solar build for pvp for years and now I finally have one I love
Imo I've always wanted something to use that's even just barely good enough to replace Igneous Hammer as I outright hate ADS with that damn thing 😂
@@fotiacruz194 I just hate the fire rate because while I have a bunch of range, people can just 3 tap me faster
does not change the fact we want zowi’s bane
@@joemama-fq6qn yeah I just never got it because raids are very time consuming and I’m a busy person so I finally got the handcannon I’ve wanted now. Plus this leaves other options for people who don’t/cant raid or just don’t like z-bane
Why didn’t you just use the Not Forgotten beforehand?
The best part about the argument of erianas vs wardens law, is that you can run both. Ones legendary kinetic the other is exotic solar. It also isn't a bad decision for gms this season with unstoppable handcannon and erianas has built in antibarrier.
It's painful to play LP with 2 HC. Really painful
@@Skhal that's why you also run a cascade point gl.
Stuns aren’t stackable like that sadly
@@Catt-ur2kryeah but if you’re running double HC you can use warden’s law for unstoppables and eriana’s for anti barrier
Eliana’s vow lucky pants is really funny
Cross getting that perfect timing for Warden's Law just to steal away the eggplants 🤣
to be honest im still glad they changed the way magnificent howl works as it is just precision instrument lmao
It's more like legendary momento mori but somehow more lethal
@@ThomasTheTankEngine22 He's talking about old magnificent howl being just liek precision instrument
@@WGG-01yeah which would have been waay too OP if you could 2H/1B on demand. 120s with precision instrument aren’t even that good since final shot has to be a crit. New version of the perk is so much more tame. Only really usable in 6’s too
Nah old magnificent howl is better
@@ThomasTheTankEngine22It's like Memento Mori and Paracausal Shot had a baby
Thank u for all damage test. ❤ helps a lot to put together a build.
To further increase dps you can run stasis with the fragment that reloads your wepon on stasis melee hits allowing even quicker reloads and maximizing dps
Imagine a hand cannon with cascade point in the future, that would be wild!
AlSO people tend to FORGET that malfeasance burrowing shots have NO dmg drop off so you can damn basically use the gun like a scout rifle which is REALLY NICE, plus it has intrinsic unstoppable
Being as most times you would use this in a boss damage phase, you should have showed off malfeasance with someone tagging it with wither hoard to show the true power of it against a taken enemy. I feel as if it’s not blighted or a taken enemy, malfeasance is only at 77% capacity.
With it's 25% extra damage Vs taken, malfeasance would come in at 690,105. That's is damage of 552,084 x 1.25 for the extra 25% damage buff
if boss is taken use malfeasance if it’s not use wardens law simple and easy. witherhoard is a straight damage loss if your using it for dps still your doing shit very wrong.
Erianas was actually really surprising, I haven't used it in ages but if I remember correctly it has auto loading for it's catalyst might be able pair it up with apex to match surge mods and something like succession or supermacy in the kinetic slot for when the buff runs out. Gonna have to do my own testing
it’s not worth you will do 2-3x as much with simply dragons breath and wardens law.
I love my 7th seraph revolver with reconstruction and vorpal.Its my favorite with lucky pants.
Yeah that's what I got too, was kinda curious to see what it would put out.
My fave old school hand cannot was Better Devils.
The mag howl buff at 10x disappeared from the screen after the first shot even though there was room for it on the side. Not sure if that is just a visual bug or if something actually bugged and took away mag howl buff. Might be worth testing again, maybe against a not mag howl luna to see if the damage is different.
You can see the damage number go down after the 10th shot so it was definitely working.
I didn’t even see him kill 10 enemies to proc it
Bro what? He never even tested Lunas howl in this video though. Just finished it and didn’t see it even once. Isn’t even in the damage numbers at the end so what?
@@hatchell18 Are you blind? 4:33
@@hatchell18 Lunas did 398,551 dude, look again. Section for Luna starts at 4:30.
I think you should have tried Luna’s with precision instrument. It hits hard af.
something i tried out with the legendary kinetic weapons was run eriana's vow for special and I was shocked to see that it would reset the timer every time you swap in between the 2 hand canons with lucky pants on
You saying the buff stayed up longer than ten sec? Or the cooldown kept getting reset?
@@andrewji1190it didnt go away and even though it said out of luck was active as well it didn't take away from the damage, it was just something i noticed the other day and will prolly test it out more
@@DecafHobgoblin5if you are referring to the "illegally modded holster" buff, that relates to the handling and swap speed granted which will stay if you are swapping between hand cannons, the damage bonus is a different buff and if you're in "out of luck" then that buff is over.
@@enkerman i had never used it before and i'm glad they are revamping the buff section on the screen since this whole time i just thought the modded holster was the whole buff put together since the damage boost thing never shown for me due to buff clutter
@@DecafHobgoblin5the damage boost is a priority buff meaning it will go tot the top of everything, you didn’t see it because you tried to use two hand cannons with luck pants💀 it’s always on cooldown
Honestly for something like champions where you have a few mag howls loaded it could be pretty good because that initial first few bullets hits hard as hell
WL WITH THE PLAY FROM DOWNTOWNNNNN
Cross you been Edging us with this one 😂
Have you considered using stasis hunter in this test and throwing the melee out with the fragment that boost handling and reloads stowed weapons on Melee hits?
Right as i was wondering if he was going to drop a magnificent howl video lol
great vid 1 mil is coming your way azetc ☝🏾
I remember when Fatebringer was the meta, it was your go-to HC for PVE
Having high cal, explosive rounds and firefly eliminated red to yellow bars no questions asked. Perhaps Bungie didn’t want that again for D2 so HCs like that are honestly never used. Midnight and Luna’s are great HCs, but I feel like their stats needed to be bumped up or better perks needed to be on them, to spice up their damage. Can Luna roll incandescent frenzy together? If so wow if not, there you go. Oh well, hopefully FS makes HCs great again in PVE or why bother when rocket side arms exist or Warden’s
I was kinda hoping you'd do timelost fatebringer vs midnight coup and zaoulies bane! Those are my main handcannons all the time but idk if it's worth running something else and if timelost trumps midnight coup etc
Just wanted to add that champions are now classified as bosses and the boss spec does more damage to them whereas the major spec doesn't affect them
Doesn’t Malfeasance do more damage to both Taken AND enemies affected by Witherhoard? Would have liked to see Malfeasance damage numbers on Templar after someone shoots it with Witherhoard.
Erianas vow that high is interesting but all the more reason to pair merciless with wardens law and a good heavy option for DPS.
Honestly I was thinking pair wardens w erianas plus a envious/cascade GL to blow your load after you’re out of luck
Is it possible to prime eriana's with a few shots of wardens law to build up the buff quicker before hitting the big numbers with eriana's?
I have that Vorpal/4th times roll on adept warden's. Good stuff.
4th times is unnecessary if you have extended mag lol, you have just enough bullets to fire until the buff goes away
Word of Crota is definitely one of my favorite hand cannons
I found out if you get one taps with magnificent howl with subsistence you can have the same amount of stacks as long as you keep hitting crit kills
It's not just with subsistence. Magnificent Howl replenishes a stack of it's buff if you get a precision kill. So even at just one stack you could use it infinitely if all of your shots are 1 tap precisions.
@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 hmm I was thinking that might be the case but I wasn’t sure because all I had was a subsistence magnificent roll
So just curious what the Warden's Law roll is that he's using? Definitely looks like something worth farming for
I meant to farm wardens law the other week and I’m regretting it so hard right now ;-;
Luna, meet power creep.
yep
Are these with Catalyst (exotics) and I guess I should ask if it makes any difference
yooooo just got a Golden Lunas with slideshot and Howl + Opening shot on the same roll !!
I use precision instrument on my lunas and its so crispy i love it
Just wondering about an explosive payload, kinetic tremors midnight coup it's got a good mag size but I don't think payload or tremors get the luck pants buff
That’s why Warden’s is the King of PVE HCs 😌
It didn’t solo legend onslaught for nothing~
The double burst is oh so good and I can’t wait to get the new one which is Arc in FS. If you ever see Warden’s in the NF rotation in the next 5 weeks, grind it out. Coup and Howl are still great weapons in PVE but looks like they’re still meant for PVP. Warden’s gets the damage out fast as possible which is what you want when eliminating enemies quick…or Sunshot. You don’t want a rocket that kinda kills a room of enemies, but DOES kill a room of enemies. Maybe a buff to 140’s against PVE enemies? Like a 40% buff or something
hell the beautiful thing is you can go Eriannas and wardens law combo! why the heck not? :)
is there a reason you never tag him with witherhoard while doing malf damage? does that not scale up malf damage bc of the taken interaction?
Precision Instrument is just better, gives it the ability to 3 tap at further ranges to complete with 120s. I personally hate perks that require a kill for the gun to be good.
(ik this is a pve video but im just saying)
Slideshot max range with p.i roughly makes it 3 tap at 36m i think.
Does precision instrument 3 tap in PvP? I don’t think so.
@@freewulf_1214 what are you smoking
Luna’s 3 taps in PvP by itself with no buff. it’s a 140 now. i was using it last night and it melts. MH makes it a 2 tap if you can get 2 MH bullets loaded.
Forgot to test Midnight Coupe with Explosive Payload+Kinetic Tremors. 😢
🤔…wouldn’t that just be worse dmg..?
@@hardluckmk.52 I have no idea. I don't have teams like Cross or others to go out and test DPS like this.
@@Aurkus23 from my understanding explosive on every weapon except sweet business deals a percentage of the bullet’s dmg as the explosion, but sometimes explosions count as a second hit so it would be at best 30% of the dmg stays same but the rest ramps up with lucky pants twice as fast but not like crimson or warden’s law, dunno if it would matter
@@hardluckmk.52In PvE, explosive payload is a straight up 12.5% dmg buff to bodies and 15% to crits, that being said, Midnight Coup wouldn't be a candidate, KT isn't that much of a big change and you have to dump 3/4 of it's mag just to procc it and it being a 140 also works against it, 180s benefit most from Lucky Pants because of the fast fire rate
@@jackr.t.4459 ah, i was thinking about pvp then, never knew that for pve but yea guess there’s no perk combo that would allow any non 180+ hc to compete
Gotta get a Trust with Triple Tap and Frenzy or Vorpal. Currently testing one with triple tap and golden tricorn
After finally getting the godroll shiny for Luna in PVE…I just default back to warden’s law 😅
And I WANTED this gun, it’s kinda like “would people still love these weapons despite being nerfed into smithereens in the past?” so about that…maybe they should’ve kept their original power or we’ll just default to our other godrolls or crafted weapons 🙃
I like the shiny shader tho!
Eriana enjoyers almost won this time
It's honestly sad that a legendary primary beats an exotic special either buff erianas or nerf wardens law
i would like to see erianas on top is exotic use special ammo and need to reload and most important the sound is sick XD
This is what I wanted to know! Thank you for coming through again Cross!
Yea, but what about specifically solar hand cannons that use primary ammo? Kinetic is cool and all, but what if you need a solar to go with your build, such as a precious scars titan, where you NEED matching damage to proc the heals?
Surprised Cross didn't do a Malfeasane run with a Witherhoard on the boss to make it treated as Taken.
Doesn’t the special hand cannon do more damage when you aim for second proc it perk ?
Holy crap. I cannot believe Warden's Law beat Eriana's Vow. That is nuts man.
About as expected for Luna's Howl. Never meant to be a DPS powerhouse. Meant to be a healing & trash-killing monster with Heal Clip & Incandescent, which I am still hunting for. But I'm gonna get it baby, especially since I found meself a Heal Clip & Incandescent Helio this week, YAAAAH!
Thanks for the video Cross.
Is heal clip and kill clip good?
@@fxranger326 I mean, it's okay but I would recommend chasing the Heal Clip + Incandescent roll. It is so good.
@@adonutplaysgames
What's good for pvp?
I grinded out a heal clip + incan luna's and it's not that great. Healing from reloading just isn't as strong as resto x1. Just use Zauoli's, if you want to a solar HC
Maybe Luna would be better off, off of a solar subclass but at that point you have no synergy. And for anyone that brings up benevolence, unless your still holding tight onto your starfire idc ability spam is crazy already.
I got heal clip incandescent first wave 10 clear this week right at reset and havent switched off it lol. The artifact mods make lunas howl so damn good with the ignitions, i even used it in pantheon and literally had zero problems cleared pantheon with ease
So sad I wont be able to get Wardens Law. I just came back from a long hiatus and it doesn't look like it'll be back in rotation before final shape x.x
Damn, I need a Warden's law T-T
I use a randomized luna roll with enlightened action and incandescent I wasn’t too happy with the curated roll
Cross is right when he says to use malf on taken, but it also gets the buff on blighted enemies (enemies hit by witherhoard). Assuming witherhoard is always on the target, cross’s dmg on templar would have been *around 690,105* (25% buff)
where does midnight coup sit in this?
Did wardens law have boss spec mod on?
Warden popped off surprisingly
Now whats better, wardens law with anarchy, or malf against a taken enemy?
it has the model of lord high fixer from d1. it’s never leaving my energy slot
Is mag howl better than precision instrument on lunas pve dps?
no midnight coup with explosive payload/kinetic tremors?
I wonder how the enhanced Ikelos hand cannon would hold up.
How do I get wardens law if I miss the nightfall rotation, someone help!
You should try to get a full mag of magnificent howl, with the slidshot perk you can rack up 12 stacks, id love to see the damage of that
Stack maxed for me at 10 with Slideshot. Do you have a mag or mod to increase your mag size? If so, then likely Magnificent Howl is tied to your base mag size.
I wanna see a lunas with precision instrument. Won’t be too but I’d still like to see the numbers
i just wanna know why tf you wait so long to dodge,??? your reload animation is over half way completed and THEN you dodge to reload?
Warlock main 😉
It might not be the best but at least I’m not stuck to a kinetic. Now I can run mountain top with recombination and make up a hefty chuck of that damage
I think if they made the change for 'Hawkmoon' to use the 'lucky pants' buff it would actually see use of the weapon...
Need Luna's Howl vs epochal integration
How do you get wardens law??
Can you still get wardens law?
You should have someone else use witherhoard when testing malfeasance as that triggers the taken enemy damage buff
Correct me if I'm wrong but Mag Howl wasn't procc'd on the left side of the screen
Wait does dodge reloading proc magnificent howl?
I want my timelost fatebringer to get enhanced perks or be craftable, it's always been a top tier handcannon
No thorn test with the caty?
Not trying Midnight Coup?
What was on his wardens law anyone happen to notice
Lunas howl with Precision instrument?
6:28 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CALLING ME CRAZY!! Ive been using Erianas Lucky Pants since they changed them in Witch Queen, incredible combo. And Im a Titan main 😮
Yes I saw the end, IT DIDNT HAPPEN
Everyone forgets about Rose with Vorpal
What about precision instrument Luna’s?
isnt the animation for grapple quicker then dodging on hunter he should try that?
But didnt have any mag howl rounds loaded for the test,?
Laughs as I one tap the Luna’s howl player with my hawkmoon
7:01 This is what we subscribe for right here LOL
the law of the warden baby
I didn’t see Howl priced on that test
Basically for lucky pants it needs fast fire rate and big mag, if it doesn’t have those it’s most certainly not beating the competition also completely off topic, 270 degrees side question, how much is the sturm and stress dmg increase in both pvp and pve, just feel like using it again on the general topic of handcannons but i can’t seem to find the dmg increase of overcharged rounds and i’m no good with math
There is currently a glitch that can make Luna's Howl get infinite Magnificent Howl. I tested it, but not very precisely, and the damage output seems to be roughly 10% less than Warden's Law.
Okay but what about malfeasance, against a blighted Templar?
Why's no one mentioning applying witherhoard to templar to boost that malfeasance through the roof?
Is there anything about clan.