How Flood saw the "real soul" of the band during recording of Mellon Collie
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- Опубликовано: 22 окт 2021
- Celebrating 26 years of Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness. Full interview available here: • The Smashing Pumpkins ...
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Wow Jimmy looks young and healthy! Good for him
He always looked way older than everyone now he looks younger.
Melon Collie one of the greatest albums ever!
Fact
Holy Grail!
No1doublealbum
@@user-tg8tz4tl5z Yes. Agreed!!!!!!!!!!
Probably is the greatest album ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When the Pumpkins upload, my whole day is made. Takes me right back to 1995, it was a simpler time.
Simpler time. I agree. It's sad to be nostalgic. It's everything so lost.
@@romulocordeirokeoma Seriously, the feeling of nostalgia has truly become just sadness, you're absolutely right. 😔
@@TaraBrownBeautyandBody but knowing that somewhere there's still someone who thinks like me, gives me hope. Carry on and never give you, wherever u are. I wish you the best whatever i am.
@@romulocordeirokeoma Thank you so much!!! I wish the same for you!!! You're definitely not alone in feeling this way!!!! 🥰🥰
1million percent
I really wish Billy would work with Flood again. Mellon Collie is an absolute masterpiece.
Agreed one of my all time favorites and one of the most gifted all around producers. He made each artists albums more musical and sonically mixed better from Depeche,U2, Smashing Pumpkins, etc
This is the album that drew me in. It called me like no album/ band/ artist ever had before. I was so hooked, that’s when I discovered music could save me and hold me and transform my life. It was such a deep relationship that I had with these songs, I couldn’t explain it but I wasn’t alone when I had MCIS with me. ♥️
So grateful to Billy and SP & the fact that they’re still making music is giving me life.
Same here friend, MCIS was my lifeguard and still is.
Siamese is what got me but Mcis was the cherry on top! Seen them 4 times that tour and they were the best Rock n Roll band on the planet at the time.
Totally agree. Hearing that masterpiece want like anything I've ever heard before. Been listening to it for 3 months straight so far and it still doesn't get boring.
God bless flood for giving us this raw version of the pumpkins in a studio setting and making album history
"And in the eyes of the jackal i say KAAAAA - BOOOOM."
When this album released, I was a kid living in a rural area and didn't have cable or MTV. Prior to knowing about the album, a classmate in my 7th grade gym class was signing "Bullet with Butterfly Wings." I thought to myself, "Man I've got to get that album!" Thankfully I was able to purchase it that week! I remember sitting on my bedroom floor with a Sony Walmart special boombox that had a tape deck and CD player that I'd gotten for Christmas, and listening to this album. Over and over and over. Being a poorer kid in a rural area, it was a big deal to experience new music, and I really connected with this album. Thank you!
You’d think a band who set out to make the next masterpiece double album would mess it up but it’s genuinely one of the best if not the best double album to come out of the 90s. Mellon Collie is the pumpkins at their absolute strongest.
@WilshirecityBlues definitely
Add to that Corgans new adquired sense of grandiosity( , even if as whole the álbum feels kind of bloated and there are 3 or 4 songs the band shouldve left out , mellancollie is a masterpiece through and through unfortunately the band and fans never thought a peak was reached creatively
I prefer Siamese dream for its coolness but I have to admit Mellon Collie is the ultimate Pumpkins album : it is a masterpiece filled with all emotions : hot and cold.
Mellon Collie as an album had so much atmosphere within it. I think it covered a complete range of emotion. It still is and I imagine will always be my favorite record.
This is why MCIS is one of my favourite albums but the MCIS "era" - including all the Aeroplane Flies High stuff, the demos etc - is my favourite era of any band. Just so much breadth and depth and power and delicacy and honesty. The angry stuff really rages, the sad stuff really weeps, the delicate stuff is gossamer light.
Same
Early Pumpkins from 89-98 were so good you never knew where the B-sides began and the A-sides ended. There is just countless material never released that was equally as good. Also, the Gravity Demo's is still one of my favorite rough Pumpkins. Creativity during that era was top notch.
@@carefulicarus7393 Consistency. The Adore era is a tough pill to shallow. While I agree great material came out of that and the Machina era, and as a kid growing up through all of it, considered Machina a return to form, the Adore era isn't and wasn't the average fan's cup of tea and even took an extremely long time to grow on me. So don't get me wrong, I consider the Pumpkins the last real Rock act to ever exist, but like Machina showed us, it was an end of an age. Anyways, the point was consistency. Great material or not sprinkled throughout, couldn't make up for a force that had been consistent up till that point.
Obviously, it's all just my opinion and I expect others to feel different. Hindsight can shine things in a light that we didn't see in the moment. Laugh is still one of my favorite unreleased tracks and Hope was a downright beautiful instrumental that hardly anyone will ever know as well as Autumn. So I agree, they were there, just not many.
Jennifer Ever has an awesome guitar riff.
@@EvoSchecter Sun, East, so many to choose from. I literally don't know where to begin.
@@vitoguido3258 would be an awesome project for the band to work on. Only one can dream.
@@EvoSchecter I had like 5 different albums planned once upon a time utilizing content from Mashed Potatoes and just a lot of unreleased demos and shit. I never got around to putting any together though, I don't think. Maybe they're on a data disc somewhere. But yeah, today me would probably disagree with old me on the tracklisting, but there's certainly enough content to make at least 5 albums clocking in over forty minutes and surely a hell of a lot more that I deliberately chose not to include.
That was a band that understood the mission. And you could tell they had fun and loved what they did, so much so that they have years worth of material that has never seen a release. No other band from the 90s can say that. DMB started off good, but it wasn't long before they worked through even that. Though they are a band that has some hidden gems still unreleased too, but not like the Pumpkins. Pumpkins made music just to fucking make it. Certainly a band I would have wanted to work for. Cool, I just want 10 songs, but bring me 20 so I got a variety to choose from. Billy: too easy. Then shit happens and it is what it is. All good things must come to an end.
I was a bit put off when MCIS came out because it was so raw and aggressive. Gish, Siamese Dream, and Pisces Iscariot had a lot of sweetness, dreaminess, and psychedelia and then all of a sudden this record with so much rage and metal energy. A credit for them to pull it off, but in many ways it was a sharp turn.
Mellon Collie is a masterpiece, it was my introduction to Smashing Pumpkins. I love that record above anything else in their discography.
i love mellon collie but ive always had a slight problem with how muddy it sounds mix wise. i understand it was probably intentional. but the mixing and sounds on siamese dream are litteral perfection, almost to the point of being overproduced but i love it so much.
Agreed. Love the songs but don't care for the mixing. I actually prefer playing it on cassette. It's more subdued and Billy's voice is lower in the mix
Loved the material done with both Butch and Flood. I personally love the track layering of Siamese Dream. I think ultimately the core creativity and vision of the band will be there no matter who produces the songs.
Wow! Very eye opening! I remember buying that record and meeting Billy in Miami. Great album. Great memories!
full concert volume in a 10 x 10, i'm surprised they have any hearing or sanity left.I love how fired up billy is here you can tell he's feeling it. I love the duality of the record like he said, you can go from zero or x.y.u. right to 1979 and by starlight. it makes a full journey for sure.
MCIS & TAFH captured the eclectic sound this band’s all about. James’ mellow input was the perfect contrast to the brutality as Billy puts it.
Absolutely loved the album was an instant classic that still sounds perfect! It's really cool to hear the behind the scenes for crafting an album.
Flood is an amazing producer has been a part of many of my favorite all time albums!
Very cool that Flood let the full spectrum of you guy's creativity happen. Probably made the process fun! Good way to make records.
This gives me chills. I love hearing Billy talking about Mellon Collie with such positivity and passion.
This is one of the main reasons I still love the pumpkins. Their music is so raw and so pure that it creates a truly genuine sound that you can’t find anywhere else.
Flood is astonishingly talented at bringing the best out of those he works with, whether as engineer or producer. I find it absolutely amazing when I get into an artist/band and find out they've worked with Flood, usually during whatever peak era they have in their careers (no coincidence). SP, Depeche Mode, U2, Glasvegas, NIN...
Thank you for this upload! It really made my day.
Billy, you’re a legend man! You gotta add Bury Me into the regular setlist!!!
It's an awsome masterpiece of art in music, word, artworks and technique all in one album. Thanks SP for giving us this for all of us who recieved this album in the 90' and thanks for all the generations who could listen to it and appreciate the meanings behind it in the future.
One of the best double albums ever recorded, amazing production 👌
Yes! I am telling you I got that album for Christmas and I remember going into the basement where i could listen to them in peace and I would play each of the two disc's from start to finish over and over. It's truly a masterpiece.
Great to hear about behind the scene! Also, good for you Jimmy to be healthy here with us, and with the Pumpkins! Role models.
And thats one of the reasons why in my opinion that album is a masterpiece, I miss that rawness, it’s still there tho..somehow..love SP ❤️
Mellon Collie is a fucking album of contrasts... so brutal and loud and very gentle and pretty
love this insight! Wow the realness of these words
This is great, thanks guys!
O man.. now that I know that.. the song bodies is even more powerful to me now and the others Billy mentioned. I luv you guys very much in smashing pumpkins. I'm very thankful I got to grow up jamming out to you guys everywhere. Radio, CDs, party's etc. Billy is one of my top 3 musicians I'd dream of meeting and having a beer with. I'd also want to ask about the shape shifter. Thank you all so much for your hard work.. Keep rockin guys! 🏆
Still one of my favorite albums of all time. Its impact on me cannot be overstated.
❤️🍀♾🦋Beautiful🕊💋
I listened to Zeitgeist today...and WTF it blew me away. and to think it was looked down upon is simply baffling no other word for it.
The Gravity Demos were awesome...🪐
Words can't even.. I gotta hear more of this
MCIS was the last album to have the original 4 and was their most successful album as well.
not to be a jerk but Machina had the original 4 as well. But you are right that MC went diamond and to me is one of the two or three best double albums ever. I just don’t want you to get called out in a bar arguement and lose a bet is all #cheers
@@patrickreichert1442 Really? I always thought Melissa Auf Der Maur replaced her on that one? I'm not sure if D'Arcy had quit before the recording of Machina now.
… also, not sure how much of James and (especially) D’arcy is actually on the recorded versions of anything, talking of bar room bets, etc …
the original 4 were all on Machina. they did the arising tour in the middle of recording the album and D'Arcy left right after that. MADM just toured the Machina record.
I played Mellon Collie front to back so many times I had to buy 3 copies. I also have the Aeroplane box set hidden away somewhere, there are some real gems there. It's all good, Gish, Siamese Dream, etc., etc.
What a treat to view on a Saturday!
God bless you , Billy 🇮🇹🎩🌹
Flood is one of a kind! amazing!
This is awesome. It would have been great to hear this 20 years ago. But we'll take what we can now.
Was always curious about XYU. One of my favorite songs of all time. When I first heard it my world stopped. My mom kept calling me for dinner but I was frozen with chills. It makes so much sense that they recorded it live as a band as the hits are all eye contact hits. Insane song.
Love the video for Tonight
Really enjoyed Billy looking back on the recording process
What can I say about this band and that album that hasn't been said before. It's still my favorite piece of music to listen to. Some bands have a style or sound that they are married to and it can get old after hearing it over and over again but the Pumpkins are so musically interesting that that never happens to them.
This fact makes me appreciate that whole album in a new way, like adding sprinkles on top of ice cream.
Glad we got that album
Wish Flood would produce their new albums!
Mellon Collie was beautiful.
But why the band doesn't hire Flood again as a producer ? There were more emotions in the sound from 1995 to 2000. Less Classic Rock and more Emotional stuff.
Money. Producers still deserve it, but bands don't make it.
It doesn't always work like that though. Often it backfires. It's like if you had a really good relationship in the past and always want something like that again, if you actually dated that person again, it just wouldn't be the same. Those situations rarely work.
Should have brought Flood back for this final album of the Trilogy. But probably a logistical and financial issue, plus Covid.
I love The Smashing Pumpkins!
MC&IS CD 2 for me. Still my fave to this day. And the Zero EP 🖤
The ghoulish aspect was so real during the 90’s. Saw them on Halloween 98 and it was a cloud over dodger stadium.
Yup nailed it..everytime I hear this record..its the insane chaos, no holds bar attitude that comes full throttle put of the speaker. XYU and Ode to Noone is perfect example. Everytime i hear these songs i immediately think “is this real or the producer just left the room without telling anyone” as its absolute visceral
I could listen to Billy talk for hours
I would totally read a SP history book (and get all the Smashing Pumpkins to narrate the audiobook).
I heart Billy!!!!!
YES YES YES!!!!!!
i listened to this album front to back for a year straight when i was 15
Oui, du pur son cet album 👍
Slvrfck & geekUSA pretty brutal.
Edit: Jimmy hit it like a maniac, so much power.
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness is very close to who I am as well. Haha Maybe because it’s so influential in shaping who I am today.
🌈Adore is under rated 🎶💜 thanx beautiful Billy 🎃🌻
I love Adore, too.
No running with scissors Jimmy! Haha
I wish ALL of you was BACK together
James was the most relaxed one of the 4, I think.
I knew that album was different.
Sick
I remember photos of you wearing headphones.... We're they ear muffs... Hearing protection
Класс. Слов нет
Dear william , is there any chance that mellon collie can be re-released on vinyl , as a non special , limited deluxe edition , just a clean re-issue chances are thats its a record company thing holding it back , but look at all the back catalogues of bowie , beatles, stones et all , all available on vinyl , a 26th and a few months anniversary edition would make a nice christmas gift to myself
❤
Fucking legendary
Give me that
Fuck, I need to find the vinyl
I still think Mellon collie would’ve been vastly better as a single album, but the singles would be ep’s so you match the other tracks and the material that became part of the aeroplane stuff. So you’d have this amazing tight, flawless album and than all the songs that were actually written grouped up and released, for us crazy people, who also knew dozens of songs weren’t released (at the time) as like little album miniseries that extended that universe. I’m a bit amazed that when the whole anniversary stuff started that he didn’t go the other way and do like the big Wagner epic opera version of all the og songs nothing else as the 4 or 5 albums as how he saw them going together either. Obviously I can do my own version but not the same as well.
hoy es un gran dia
Я слушаю уже 25 лет потому что ребята крутые
gravity demos 🖤
James is actually the ghostwriter to all of Lambs Of God library.
Is that true?
So why don't you do it again!!?? :) We want that raw sound again!!
I can’t seem to find any videos or articles with Flood discussing the making of MCIS.
bring flood back
Nice Acéphale shirt
---- OK, I must know where these rusty scissors are on what tune?
I think it’s the percussion on Cupid De Locke
I hope the Pumpkins get to read this question; do you guys (whole band) plan on or would like to play Zwan songs?
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I watched the Let it be documentary last couple days and one thing I kept thinking is I would love to hear Billys thought on the footage. If you see this comment somehow do a little video on it if you have any interest in doing so.
I totally agree with you Billy.
I love songs like "Disarm", "Perfect', "1979" but not "Bodys", "Coma,", etc,. I always thought they weren't your true nature, and now, you are just confirming it. It was Flood, to sell more records. Mellon Collie is just you ... and sometimes I find myself looking at the cover image for hours. It is one of the best album ever written, by a true poet like you are.
I'm from Italy, so I had the pleasure to see you performing in Milan.
James acted like a complete 'a****' after the concert: I was right there at the front, and while all of you went to the backstage, James actually stayed on the stage looking for pretty and rich Italian girls to 'f**k'. Groupies I know, but I never ever forgot that feeling of dirt he left inside me.
Thank you S.P. for brightening up my younger days in Dublin.
My friends and I grew up @ Fibbers listening to you.
Marvelous '90s are inside me now. And it is my pain and pleasure to remember you. ❤️
MCIS is my favourite artwork ever. It is full moon in a clear night full of other (rock) star. But I don't believe Billy when he's saying that Bodies has no overdub... It's impossible
The Real band is no longer around :(
Need some more full volume, unsanitized Pumpkins
FYI as a designer is there a way that I can design the band merch brand? 😍
Where is the full version of this interview/ podcast??
When the fuck is the Machina Re-issue + triple album coming out?