Warframe - Melee Afflictions, explained: Broken beyond imagination. | 001

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  • Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024

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  • @amolistic_
    @amolistic_  3 месяца назад +18

    Hope you all really enjoy this video, and the opening series of ["Explained" | by Amolistic.] !
    I spend tons of time making this video, and it is seriously challenging to document nearly all the perks of this arcane, to properly showcase the true potential of this arcane.
    If you really like what I do, feel free to like and sub, any kinds of support is greatly appreciated :)
    ***If there is anything you would like to point out or correct me on something, feel free to comment, will try my best to fit into this pinned comment.***
    Note 1: from @TiredDoktor6391 -
    Melee afflictions takes that damage value of all your procs (existing or applying), multiplies them by their remaining status duration and combines them.
    Then it will take that number and devided it by the status duration, then applies this proc 6 times.
    Note 2: from @Karmagasm - (with slight change)
    if melee attack is a forced form of ragdoll/knockdown, melee affliction will still apply the extra stacks even if the target didn't get the animations to indicate that it was afflicted by those conditionals, ie it still works against overguarded eximus units/demolists/acolytes.

    • @2005smtyJ
      @2005smtyJ 3 месяца назад

      Hello this is an awesome guide on the new melee arcane thank you for your hard work and research.
      This does now make me ask how this arcane interact with atlas' 1st?
      Anyway hope you have a wonderful day

    • @Dima666Air
      @Dima666Air 3 месяца назад

      try it with new jade meele

  • @NovaUmbral
    @NovaUmbral 3 месяца назад +66

    Your narration has improved so much, keep it up!

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_  3 месяца назад +19

      thanks :)

    • @finishihimTV
      @finishihimTV 3 месяца назад +1

      I thought it was AI

    • @celestialkitsune
      @celestialkitsune 3 месяца назад

      ​@@finishihimTV honestly same, dunno why the blatant lie 😂

    • @mmmJamSandwich
      @mmmJamSandwich 3 месяца назад +6

      ​@celestialkitsune that is clearly not an AI voice, that's clearly a person who's English is their second language

    • @vinvinthegreat
      @vinvinthegreat 3 месяца назад +8

      @@celestialkitsune bro has never heard an asian person speak

  • @ethanemerson4862
    @ethanemerson4862 3 месяца назад +42

    Melee Affliction + Harmony scythe + Kullervo = BIG HEAVY ATTACK!

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_  3 месяца назад +24

      least insane harmony moment

    • @ethanemerson4862
      @ethanemerson4862 3 месяца назад +2

      @@amolistic_ what can I say, I like big red numbers.

    • @bobbymoore8030
      @bobbymoore8030 3 месяца назад +7

      My favorite is Sampotes as it does fling +fling + fling. It breaks the game and leaves enemy corpses floating in the air.
      Edit: Plus saryn toxin lash for millions of damage without roar or any other buff.

    • @ethanemerson4862
      @ethanemerson4862 3 месяца назад +4

      @@bobbymoore8030 I might have to try that!

    • @bobbymoore8030
      @bobbymoore8030 3 месяца назад +4

      @@ethanemerson4862 Sadly it's not red crits but seeing multiple 2m white hits is still satisfying 😁

  • @TiredDoktor6391
    @TiredDoktor6391 3 месяца назад +27

    One thing that might answer your questions
    Melee afflictions takes that damage value of all your procs (existing or applying), multiplies them by their remaining status duration and combines them.
    Then it will take that number and devided it by the status duration, then applies this proc 6 times.
    This should explain why it will have exponential scaling beacuse everytime it triggers, it does this to all the procs.

    • @devar7502
      @devar7502 3 месяца назад +1

      Is this affected by status duration mods? God, I'm testing this
      *Edit: For a second I thought there was a negative status duration

    • @dustinrichardson6533
      @dustinrichardson6533 3 месяца назад

      @@devar7502 you can get -status duration on rivens; the wiki says that a negative status duration won't apply their DoT/debuff at all, so that probably won't work. Without doing any testing, the farthest you can push this would be getting -99% status duration and using it to dupe electricity procs(which deal a tick of damage when they're applied, instead of having to wait for the next status tick to deal damage). Provided TierdDoktor's formula is accurate, with just the continuous misery mod (+100% status duration to rifles) and no rifle riven, you're looking at 12(6 second duration doubled by continuous misery)/.06(status duration of the melee with -99% status dur)=200x the damage of the base electricity tick. This assumes that the status is still at full duration, which is perhaps a bit impractical, but a more realistic 90% efficiency still allows you to hit 180x the base proc's damage. This won't work with heat as it doesn't deal damage on tick 0(the tick that the status is applied) so with heat, you'd need at least 1s of duration on your melee limiting just how high you can push the numbers. Also, if you theoretically hit the jackpot on a riven that gave -99.99% status duration (provided a duration so low isn't just truncated to flat 0), you'd be dealing 18,000 times the damage of the original proc.
      I'd like to stress that I have not tested this in game, so all of this could be completely wrong or just impossible to achieve due to something I didn't account for, but if anyone wishes to do some testing, best of luck!

    • @alex140i3
      @alex140i3 3 месяца назад +1

      doesn't voruna's 2 work the same way with its status spreading?

    • @KhristianBolano
      @KhristianBolano 3 месяца назад

      Roar also double dips on DoT effects since it's faction damage. So everytime the arcane applies, the double dip seems to be transfered as well, and since it's a new status effect then the faction damage mod will apply again. That's how I understand it, because it's the only way something can actually scale infinitely.
      You don't even need Roar or being Rhino basically, you need strong status effects from any weapon (even the melee itself will do) and a faction mod.

  • @agingerbeard
    @agingerbeard 3 месяца назад +13

    It takes courage to produce content in a language that you are still perfecting, you have very good information and pacing, thank you for showing me the true potential of this arcane!!

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_  3 месяца назад +4

      Thanks for the words of encouragement, glad you learned something new from this video :)

  • @shadamethyst1258
    @shadamethyst1258 3 месяца назад +9

    Wow, that's an incredibly detailed explanation, thank you!

  • @chilX3467
    @chilX3467 3 месяца назад +6

    Arcane afflictions made gram prime great again. I've been testing melee afflictions with gram prime using a gas crit status build and it was killing level 200+ SP corrupted enemies with ease. I've found out the best stance for this build was rending crane standing combo since the combo only has 2 inputs with a guaranteed knockdown, it's fast, has a high damage multiplier, and doesn't throw you forward like other heavy blade combos

  • @Karmagasm
    @Karmagasm 3 месяца назад +4

    It should be noted that if your melee attack is a *forced* form of lifted/ragdoll/knockdown melee affliction will still apply the extra stacks even if the target didn't get the animations to indicate that it was afflicted by those conditionals, ie it still works against overguarded eximus units.

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_  3 месяца назад +3

      Ye, I accidentally found it out as well after this video (doing testing), lifted afaik does not work but ragdoll and knockdowns work.

  • @Sci-Fi_Freak_YT
    @Sci-Fi_Freak_YT 3 месяца назад +15

    As cool as this is it’s hard to top influence for me with its rift piercing tech.

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_  3 месяца назад +9

      Yeah, that's honestly understandable; anything that can pass through rift is just gamebreakingly powerful, regardless of the damage it provides.

    • @MythicqI
      @MythicqI 3 месяца назад +2

      wait its WHAT?
      influence can do WHAT??

    • @Sci-Fi_Freak_YT
      @Sci-Fi_Freak_YT 3 месяца назад +1

      @@MythicqI ye

  • @Josephkerr101
    @Josephkerr101 3 месяца назад +1

    12:07 "just look at this ramping speed. Holy s**t!" XD that had me laughing.

  • @MAGAPARIS
    @MAGAPARIS 3 месяца назад +1

    Good work good flow and narration love the little camera angle moves , keep going see you at the top

  • @fran11390
    @fran11390 3 месяца назад +6

    new amolistic video dropped, and its 15 minutes long? god damn son we bout to learn a lot aren't we
    thanks in advance for explaining this arcane, cause its description sounds very unimpressive to a pleb like me

  • @gabrielsalinas4386
    @gabrielsalinas4386 3 месяца назад +3

    Tenet Exec shockwaves can proc the arcane multiple times (force ragdoll) on a single slam. It's insane. Only problem is that the waves cannot proc status by themselves. Works great on a hybrid build with Tennokai, and as hyper Sickening Pulse for some warframe elemental abilities.

    • @vitae1342
      @vitae1342 3 месяца назад +1

      Can lavos aug proc forced status on waves?

    • @gabrielsalinas4386
      @gabrielsalinas4386 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@vitae1342 most likely yes, might be busted

    • @bartoszmoczkowski3225
      @bartoszmoczkowski3225 3 месяца назад +1

      Exec with saryn 3 and this arcane is so stupidly op. I was able to one-shot steel path enemies without any additional mods on the exec

  • @freedisappointment815
    @freedisappointment815 3 месяца назад +2

    Rhino some how became one of the best melee warframe because of those arcane and un-nerf roar. Even some frame intent to focus on melee are not as good as Rhino. Yeah, that is Rhino. Like everything work on him.

  • @Johnny_no_smiles
    @Johnny_no_smiles 3 месяца назад +2

    This and voruna is absolutely insane.

  • @chetasaur
    @chetasaur 3 месяца назад

    hell yeah, i have been having so much fun with this arcane on the harmony and reaping spiral stance!

  • @anthall1768
    @anthall1768 3 месяца назад

    Melee Affliction Harmony Heavy Attack with Yareli Sea Snares and Aquablade's Slash procs makes enemies evaporate. The procs from the abilities plus Harmony's innate Heat. Even though Sea Snares isn't procing Melee Afflication, Harmony is still "ragdolling" the target. Fun to watch.

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_  3 месяца назад

      Yes, because it carries over the damage dealt, including the slash proc from aquablades as well, like what I mentioned in the video. I am glad that you are entertained by the result you get.
      *Ragdoll and knockdown seems to work at all times, regardless of it being applied or not.

  • @devar7502
    @devar7502 3 месяца назад

    I like to call this the "Status Potential Energy"

  • @Kiribandit
    @Kiribandit 3 месяца назад +1

    Ive been thinking about getting this arcane, it looks rather powerful in status builds

  • @OggerFN
    @OggerFN 3 месяца назад +1

    Melee Duplicate the rarest (until jade shadows) melee arcane is also arguably the worst as it "only" doubles your damage when dealing specifically a yellow crit.
    While we have absolutely broken arcanes like influence and now this

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_  3 месяца назад +1

      The double hit can apply orange crits as well, thus you want to yellow crit and that hit to orange crit for max damage, some calculated that the best threshold for it is around the near-middle of 130-150% crit.

  • @HO1ySh33t
    @HO1ySh33t Месяц назад

    this really made slam meta even more broken than it already is.

  • @Benzinilinguine
    @Benzinilinguine 3 месяца назад +1

    I really hope they clarify the effect instead of...changing it...

  • @igamuramasa8876
    @igamuramasa8876 3 месяца назад +1

    Congratulations on the video great content of explanation.

  • @emanate0
    @emanate0 3 месяца назад

    does this work with oberons smite or saxum set bonus? thinking there might be some funky interactions here. ooo what about inaros elemental sandstorm with his 4? yo this is fun to tink about. anyway very interesting stuffs ty for explain

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_  3 месяца назад

      I don't know, but you could try.

  • @rcqr4148
    @rcqr4148 3 месяца назад

    ah so thats why my melee was randomly doing 200k plus dot lol

  • @Jubumby
    @Jubumby 3 месяца назад +1

    Jat kusar breaks this arcane on its own, just basic attacks are making enemies suffer dots that are fatal without combo even built, this arcane is so beyond broken

  • @novaprime8966
    @novaprime8966 2 месяца назад

    Theres a reason why arca titron in the hands of rhino is my fv combo and main go to

  • @abaddon5420
    @abaddon5420 3 месяца назад

    Can I ask how you got that simulacrum room? I've never seen it before

  • @joelisstillhere
    @joelisstillhere 3 месяца назад +1

    Very nice! subscribed

  • @mastersrequiem_2834
    @mastersrequiem_2834 3 месяца назад

    Very good Video, its was very understandable, thanks :)

  • @GruntMilaRose-gg9xy
    @GruntMilaRose-gg9xy 3 месяца назад

    Does this only work on rhino? Or can i put faction dmg multipliers on my melee to achieve the same effect

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_  3 месяца назад +1

      you can put faction mods as well, it still works, though the ramping speed will be different.

    • @GruntMilaRose-gg9xy
      @GruntMilaRose-gg9xy 3 месяца назад

      @amolistic_ ty for the reply! I've been utilizing melee afflictions with garuda and sampotes, and this arcane is the most broken thing in the game. I'm hitting 82 mil slash dot (sadly things die too fast and I can't find out the upper limits of dmg)

  • @yokeekee
    @yokeekee 3 месяца назад

    quality of content and information are really good. i appreciated. but what the point of this arcane when we can do just 1 slam kill everything ?

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_  3 месяца назад

      The point of using the arcane is the synergies it allows, those that are impossible without this arcane.

  • @nguyenhuyduc9151
    @nguyenhuyduc9151 3 месяца назад +1

    The problem is when i need it to shine, it dont! It happen with demolish and other boss

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_  3 месяца назад

      From what I heard after this video, forced knockdowns seem to have a bug where it will just work even though they can't be knockdown'd.

    • @nguyenhuyduc9151
      @nguyenhuyduc9151 3 месяца назад

      @@amolistic_ nice information. Because if i really want my melee do the hardjob, it will be demolish! Demolish before just armor strip and spam spam in one second( burston, toxocyst).
      And yes, heavy slam is still meta and got buff more and more after dante update. But it is boring as hell

  • @robinlefebvre4816
    @robinlefebvre4816 3 месяца назад

    I wanted to put this for atlas and his punches but i had this specific weapon for my ember just for the silly ragdoll i guess ill put it there too thanks

  • @Dragonoidalpha
    @Dragonoidalpha 3 месяца назад +1

    Is roar required, or do other faction damage buffs work as well?

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_  3 месяца назад +4

      11:51 Both bane mods and Roar works.
      (bro got caught in 4k for not watching the whole video frfr)

  • @eyywannn8601
    @eyywannn8601 3 месяца назад

    Do you think the 3rd intricacy will be patched out?

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_  3 месяца назад

      I suspect they will, eventually.

  • @reidaneVA44
    @reidaneVA44 3 месяца назад

    Youre doing good, keep it up

  • @thehighestground5151
    @thehighestground5151 Месяц назад

    Gonna use harmony with furis incarnon for big damage

  • @cyanide7270
    @cyanide7270 3 месяца назад

    I feel like i am being given a lecture from my parents that im a disappointment because i am not some big lawyer or doctor.
    Hiyaaaah, this not fuiyoh!

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_  3 месяца назад

      Very Malaysian Chinese moment

  • @liomurasaki
    @liomurasaki 3 месяца назад

    So you're telling me that using Chroma Toxin aura, with Harmony and Aflictions, and using 5 tau greens for toxin status damage, i can basically oneshot anything at any level?

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_  3 месяца назад

      You could try, but I suspect that it will take 2 or 3 hits to ramp up the toxin proc for harmony to expedite it and kill any level.

  • @fran11390
    @fran11390 3 месяца назад

    I wonder if the exponential scaling is unintended.

  • @anthonychase6906
    @anthonychase6906 3 месяца назад

    I have to see if its possible for excaliburs slash dash can inherit this from stat stick and knock people down

  • @anthall1768
    @anthall1768 3 месяца назад

    Does this work with Exodia Epidemic

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_  3 месяца назад

      Should work, it inflicts lifted status.

  • @MythicqI
    @MythicqI 3 месяца назад

    THEEEE SENTINELLL HAMMMERRRRRRRRR

  • @gushterell7989
    @gushterell7989 3 месяца назад

    Thank god ppl cream over garbage, maybe electric or influence wont be nerfed to los only.

  • @findmi2708
    @findmi2708 3 месяца назад

    when uncle roger play Warframe 1000 hours

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_  3 месяца назад

      Me and uncle roger born in the same country, that's prob why Iol (Malaysia)

    • @findmi2708
      @findmi2708 3 месяца назад

      @@amolistic_ no way?! really? i thought uncle roger is a Singaporean?

  • @joshuadrake9823
    @joshuadrake9823 3 месяца назад

    Tekko prime?

  • @wentallout
    @wentallout 3 месяца назад +1

    cmon man, these videos are going to make DE nerf the arcane. XD I love my harmony+affliction

  • @bigdaddyguru
    @bigdaddyguru 3 месяца назад

    Ty now I get it

  • @pocketvoid
    @pocketvoid 3 месяца назад

    I cant use heavy attack because enemies die way to fast with fire procs ;_;

  • @AO_Mafu21
    @AO_Mafu21 3 месяца назад

    It doesnt work on demolyst :

  • @abaddon5420
    @abaddon5420 3 месяца назад

    cool

  • @molecular_deer
    @molecular_deer 3 месяца назад

    dows it work on whipclaw?

    • @JCurry1123
      @JCurry1123 3 месяца назад

      Shouldn't be hard for you to try it for yourself. Whipclaw does have a knockback/ragdoll.

    • @molecular_deer
      @molecular_deer 3 месяца назад

      @@JCurry1123 i was wondering if it works on enemies CC'ed with her 4th. I didn't farm the arcane yet

    • @JCurry1123
      @JCurry1123 3 месяца назад +2

      @molecular_deer I think the Melee attack has to be the thing to apply the knockdown for this arcane to trigger. I'm not at my computer for another 3 hrs. Otherwise, I'd test it. I'll comment back when I get home if no one else has answered for you

    • @molecular_deer
      @molecular_deer 3 месяца назад

      @@JCurry1123 oh ok ty

    • @JCurry1123
      @JCurry1123 3 месяца назад

      @@molecular_deer i spent a few minutes messing with khora. it doesn't look like her abilities proc the extra stacks, only when i use the equipped melee weapon

  • @Zeldaboy453
    @Zeldaboy453 3 месяца назад

    W

  • @aceninjaofbalance9732
    @aceninjaofbalance9732 3 месяца назад

    Why does he sound like uncle Roger

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_  3 месяца назад +2

      I came from the same country that uncle Roger comes from (Malaysia).
      Malaysians have an extremely identifiable accent (If you hear a lot), due to the culture of Malaysia where you will have Malays, indians, Chinese, and more.

    • @aceninjaofbalance9732
      @aceninjaofbalance9732 3 месяца назад

      @@amolistic_ That is Awesome 😎😎😎👍

  • @BDrumev001
    @BDrumev001 3 месяца назад +2

    Now imagine you were playing an actual good Frame like Saryn...

  • @Bpyr
    @Bpyr 3 месяца назад +1

    Good edit, good content, sub from me, expect great things from you 🙏

  • @vonrelevanz1963
    @vonrelevanz1963 3 месяца назад +1

    This is a troll post, right?

  • @dododiese1
    @dododiese1 3 месяца назад

    If you want I can help you with your videos, especially translating your stuff if you can pay :)

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_  3 месяца назад

      I'm broke lmao but thanks :)

  • @gabrielsalinas4386
    @gabrielsalinas4386 3 месяца назад

    Tenet Exec shockwaves can proc the arcane multiple times (force ragdoll) on a single slam. It's insane. Only problem is that the waves cannot proc status by themselves. Works great on a hybrid build with Tennokai, and as hyper Sickening Pulse for some warframe elemental abilities.