Thanks for the calm overview of these changes. The one that kills me is the extremely high percentages. You sold a sticker! Great, we’re keeping half. Half?! Yikes! Since this is a new change I will wait and see if they course correct in a few weeks. I also want to see if this helps eliminate tag spammers and thieves.
@@DetourShirts In fairness, I marked all my products up to 150% margin after their tier announcement and I’ve sold 3 stickers since then. People will clearly still pay a lot for a sticker if they really like it.
I opened my RB shop yesterday following the tips on RB dashboard, like profile pic, shop banner, social link, bio, payment info, and uploaded 16 designs. today i got the email notification that RB classified my account as premium. not sure what i done correctly but i learn the design skill from Juna, and i applied it to RB, Teepublic. Those designs are actually the same with my Teepublic account, but currently my Teepublic account still classified as Apprentice (shop opened for 1 week), and i've followed all the correct way for setting up the account. What i like is that RB hold the newly opened shop, after they review, they will notify which category you are in, after that your shop will go live. but for Teepublic, they just assigned apprentice for a new store, i do not know if i still get the chance to move up to Artisan category
Great video, Juna, a nice antidote to some of the hysteria I've seen on certain other channels! I've left feedback today asking RB to publish the precise criteria for each tier and suggesting that accounts which make very small amounts of money each month should be exempt from fees. Beyond that, I'm just going to wait and see how things pan out.
Thanks for your comment.... yeah I didn't want to cause a panic or have people just follow me for no reason...... everyone can decide for themselves... I'm waiting to see what happens too
If you are fee sensitive, Etsy might not be a good choice. They charge 20 cents for each listing (which doesn't sound like a lot for one listing but it can really add up fast when you're uploading a lot of designs) and then you have to renew the listings every 4 months for another 20 cents each. They also have fees when you sell. And while running ads is optional, but it can be a way to get your listing seen higher up in the search results. And the ad fees and listing fees are due whether or not you make any sales at all.
@AnimalsLover Congrats on getting sales on Etsy! That's great! I personally never tried Redbubble (intuitively every time I considered it I felt it wasn't the right place for me). You are right, they are very different platforms.
@@DetourShirts But...For a beginner, it may be wise to apply your mech by Amazon system in what comes to uploading and setting to manual renewals. Basically, create xx amount of products, if they don't sell for that 0.20 fee then ditch what doesn't work, and make more of what works. For beginners...it may take some time to make designs that don't suck 🤔
Thanks, Juna. I took the survey and expressed my disatisfaction with the tier system. I've been on the platform for years now, and both of my accounts are standard. I don't think it's fair, and I don't care if they decide to ban me.
I am confounded by the paradoxical occurrence that one of my most successful accounts, adorned with a Fan-artist emblem and boasting an impressive catalogue of 1880 designs, has been subject to suspension, despite having amassed a substantial 11.5K sales. In stark contrast, my second account, which is meagre in both content and performance, with only 24 designs and a solitary sale to its name, has been bestowed with a premium tier. Such an incongruous situation has left me in a state of perplexity and bewilderment.
My Redbubble account, which I opened two weeks ago was suspended as was my Tee public account. I'm perplexed as I did my due diligence, and checked to make sure that the quotes used on my tees were not copyrighted nor trademarked. I appealed my suspension, but I don't think that will help. Did you use a different computer to open up your other account? Please let me know.
Well, I think it is because, we all know, that 80-90% of the stuff, on RB, is garbage, and rarely makes a sale, so how would they get any money from that. They are putting stores, who make consistent sales, into that category, because that is the only way to get money from this. The 80-90% of people rarely make one sale, so they're going after the people who are making consistent sales. They won't go after the people who are featured as their "feature artists," but they will go after someone who is making consistent sales, and who is making them a lot of money, because that 80-90% hasn't made them a dime, and are just filling their site with garbage. I see misspelled words, and the same graphics over and over, being used on RB, so, I believe, they will take from people, such as yourself, because it's the only way to make money from this stupid idea.
I've heard this exact thing from many other multiple account designers. RB Is cash-starved and trying to make quick money. They stick a big account in standard and take that 37% fee off of a much bigger pie. And what happens if that big account can't afford to just de-platform? Looks like a lot of small, new accounts are being put in premium.
@@Dakotagirl823 Be glad - I've been selling consistently on RB each month until Jan 2023 and since then zero sales so assume somehow became invisible - recently did a reverse image search on just one of my designs and found at least 3 sellers on RB selling a full range of products with that design. As RB are so poor at monitoring what gets added to the site you may well find copycats selling your uploads anyway! Hope that helps ... plus after RB have taken this extra wadge from your royaltie and still got to pay the taxman ... what's going to be left then?!
Thanks for this tutorial! I just went to check out my tier and I'm Premium, yessss!🙏 Oh, I'm so happy! My thanks to you, because you explained precisely where to go and find out about account status! Thanks👍
Thank you for your insight and your diplomatic candor. I'm going to stay on RedBubble for now, but if my profits don't improve in the next year, I have no loyalty or problem with leaving RedBubble. On the bright side, I'm optimistic that the wisdom YOU provide us will help me to be successful. Thank you, Juna!
Thanks Juna! They put my account to standard, and I will wait it out as well just like how you decided to do. Good to know there’s a survey link, I will fill one out too, and perhaps most of the sellers should consider leaving a feedback there, even though I am not sure if they’d ever read them based on their track records… at least we tried
Juna, thanks for your RedBubble perspective. I was waiting for yours and Ryan Hogue's to help me think through whether to continue with RedBubble. One question I've had for a long time and you mentioned in this video--that you don't sell on Etsy. Can I ask you why? I tried looking for a video where you may have talked about that decision but I'm not able to find one. If it is something you're up for sharing, I would really appreciate your perspective in not being on Etsy.
So I stopped Etsy because it wasn't passive enough for me. I have a 9-5 and I need PODs that at are more set it and forget it. Etsy takes a lot of work. You have to answer messages, create mockups, do customer service... it's a lot more work and the more designs I add the more work I added to myself it was not scalable for the time I had. I got sales but I knew it was not sustainable for me with a 9-5 and my other PODs. I also didn't like having to keep track of all my sales individually. So it was mainly a time thing.
@@DetourShirts So, taking the costs, flexibility, and actual results/sales, which is your top POD platform? Teepublic? How about if you want to sell other products besides t-shirts? I was about to start a new shop and I thought Etsy could be a good option but I am open to any suggestions :)
@@DetourShirts For sure. Doesn’t sound like a great option for beginners anymore. I think they’re being vague cause they want to see how negatively this may affect them.
I just look at it as the cost of doing business. We now share the cost of storage, marketing, production, shipping, and customer service. The recent surge in accounts auto uploading 50 scaled versions of the same basic design a day has put a huge load on systems.
Good comment. I also think the proliferation of scaled designs is a problem, which displaces or dilutes the unique content, when pushed with spam tags, etc.
Erving more traffic often translates into being the workhorse for RB, driving it to potentially other sellers. The profit margin is not so low if you want to compete. It’s a fast slide to the bottom including RB if tself
Sadly people who auto upload crap to multiple platforms are the ones to thank. They upload, endless crappy designs and don't consider the platform they are uploading to. Amazon, Zazzle, Merch, Redbubble , Etsy are all cleaning house, closing accounts and making it harder to make money, not because they want to penalize the sellers but they want to get rid of the people who do NOT CARE about the quality of their work, and are just blindly uploading ugly designs and not going into fix their listings to make them look professional. So thank you makers of automated uploading tools, we have YOU to thank for this, IMHO.. I predicted this would happen several years ago when Automated uploaders became the rage. I said they would destroy the good thing we had, and here it is. I feel sorry for those just starting out.. who don't have already established accounts.
Your comment raises a good point. The auto uploading of "scaled" designs such as "Worlds Greatest (X)" is likely a problem for Redbubble (or their goals for the biz). They reduced the number of uploads from 50 per account to 30 a few months ago. I suspect that was due to the many auto uploaders that dump designs each day into the system.
RedBubble does own TeePublic but they are run completely separately and TeePublic has no plans (as of today) to do any tier system or extra fees.... in fact if you look at their pay structure and uploading it's completely different as well.
I hope things work for all Redbubble sellers. I am new to print on demand, & this youtube page. I am so new, haven't made a sale yet, because I am only have one design lol. I am slowly posting on on different sites, but Rebbubble is my starting point. I don't want to apply to Amazon Merch, until I build some experience, to increase my chances to getting accepted, not get banned. Thanks
I checked my site and I’m at premium tier. I sold a shirt today but the last time I sold anything on RB was in December 2022. I’m not sure what will happen in May when it takes affect but I’ll wait and see what happens before I make any decisions. Also I have 500+ artworks.
I'm doing what you are doing. I have a Redbubble shop with about 275 designs. I haven't really been working heavily lately on it because I focused my attention elsewhere. I'm in the premium level. I'm going to wait it out and see what happens. I won't be unloading like crazy though just in case I do have to delete my store in the future. I am nervous they will do this to Teepublic where I seem to do much better on.
Unless you have a highly targeted shop that is successful 275 designs is beyond nothing. Believe it or not you are the average Redbubble uploader that has caused this to some degree. RB had about 2 millions designers and most of them don't make much money at all but it cost RB lots of money to have all these designs up on their website via server space and potential risk for infringement etc. The only shops with 200 designs or so that are highly successful are RUclipsr/Influencer shops, good designers who joined RB when it started so had first mover advantage and people who have multiple shops that already mastered RB so know what designs sell and how to boost it up to Page 1 when searched that also Mastered SEO on RB. If you're not one of these groups, having 275 and "waiting it out" is as useless as having 0 designs and not working on the shop, it's a lose lose. There's people who make $10,000 a year on RB which is success but not the actual success you can get on RB or Teepublic, Etsy, Amazon etc. That's beginner success or lazy success. I watch a RUclipsr who makes Thousands on RB per month because he had 17 shops, and just sold I believe 8 in a bundle for like $170k to someone. I am 100% sure that's more success than anybody subscribed here including myself. If you want REAL success on RB it takes full dedication and Scale, same with TeePublic. You need thousands of designs which is not impossible. And these RB rules are nothing to be scared of at all, if you ain't making much money, you still ain't with a Standard account. If you ARE making lots of money, then the fee will be a small % for you. So what is everyone freaking out about? I don't agree with the policy/fees but it's not something to run from. You make $100 a month and you'll make like $50, $1000 a month and you'll make like $900, $10,000 a month and you make like $9,100 after the fee and it only impacts you if you actually make money so you're not paying RB out of pocket you're paying from profit. Why are you guys scared? it doesn't make sense to me. Go scale your shops and be successful already. If you make $1000 a month in 1 shop that is minor success. That's not going to change your life. $1000 across 10 shops will because that's 6 figures a year or $3000 across 4 shops will because that's 6 figures a year, That's real success that I think we all want but we're not doing it because we're being lazy and complacent with minor success. if you can make money doing POD, you can make more money doing POD, it just take scale.
@@drjonesey5 I am in the premium level. (as stated in my comment that you replied on) I am not sure why you wrote this all out. I am an artist and do have a unique style and niche. I am content with how my stores do. I was only agreeing with Juna and plan on doing what he is going to do. I only stated I was "scared" about Teepublic because there was not a set in stone criteria on what level you are put in with this new Redbubble tier set up. I do well in my Teepublic store, more than my Redbubble. I'd prefer things do not change on that platform.
Hi, juna! Do you think that with the new tiers system, the artists will earn way less money? I'm starting on redbubble actually, naming my account, making my bio, etc... What would you advise me to do as a beginner? How do I adapt myself to the new tiers system to make the most of it?
I think the problem is that it isn't exactly clear how we can make our shop move up. I know people who have inactive shops with few sales who are premium and people who have active shops with followers and sales who are standard. I am done doing free work for RB when there is no indication it will help me move up. If they want us to make more sales, why take away the newsletters and things that would teach us how to do that? If anything, give us more of that stuff.
I'm leaving RB after 3 yrs, never been accepted by Amazon so I will be researching tee public or another platform. Thank you for the info. I was going to leave a I think once they see that I unsubscribe they'll get.
I'm done with them. I'm not going to reward them for this terrible policy by staying. Everything is set up to make certain Standard stays Standard so they can continually take money from us. It also seems REALLY arbitrary who is ending up in which category. Some high sellers are in Standard. It breaks my heart to nuke my stores, but I just did my taxes and saw I'm still operating in the red when I consider what I pay for things like Canva, Kittl, and Creative Fabrica. I did better than the previous year and was hoping this year would be when I'd see a profit. No way am I going to voluntarily put myself in a deeper hole. Some people have suggested making your designs private for now. If people want to wait and see, that seems to me the better option.
I joined RB 3 month ago and get only 2 sales of sticker I had mix feeling because my is premium may be I Promot my product on social media 95% of traffic I get is through social media only
This is what I'm talking about. Small new sellers are being put in premium, and medium to large size sellers are being put in standard. Good way for redbubble to make some money for themselves.
WOW! That's a shock. Opposite of what I suspected. I assumed the Premium went to the big sellers or those who had many sales over several years on the platform. Hard to understand their method (Red's choice). But, you are lucky (or have what they want to see on the site).
Hi Juna! in your experience, what and when is the best type and time to use different options of garments from the same category provided by printing services such as printify, for example, t-shirts Gildan 2000 vs Gildan 5000 vs Gildan 64000, differences are mostly in weight and material, does this matter for customers or it doesn't really make a difference? also, can you kindly help me out with the (universal) px sizes and resolutions of things - or rather what is accustomed in the pod business - for example, t-shirts, stickers, coloring books, patterns etc. or if it cant be easily covered in a comment then i would love to see a video about it Thank you!
I'll probably make a video.... but in the meantime I think shirt types are personal preference I usually go by color..... I like using 4500x5400 px for my product and it works pretty well for the most part.
Hi Juna, I was looking through Redbubble best selling t’s and it is confusing when you see t-shirts on there that are close to using trademarks. You might have done a video on this but can you give some pointers re getting close to this without getting cancelled. I noticed your Team Jacob t-shirt which doesn’t mention Twilight, so it is safe. Just need your knowledge and wisdom. Thank you, Wendy
I did that one a long time ago and luckily it didn't get taken down but I know better now.....It's better to just stay far away.... there are some fan art stuff that is legal but otherwise I would stay away from copyrighted stuff it's really tricky and hit and miss.
So Printul is just a printing app.... if you use printful with Shopify or Etsy or something else... yes you can definitely use a mockup from Canva or anywhere... I would also include the printful mockups to show the different colors
@@DetourShirts All the wasted time. So sad for so many. Just this year, made a whopping $50. Oh, and let's not forget the 175 take down notices of copyright infringement that I had to file to RB. Then there is the sub standard printing of tshirt. What a Stellar outfit.
Essential = Basic (Cheaper) T-Shirt Premium = More Expensive/Higher Quality T-Shirt Fitted T-Shirt = A Tighter Fit Shirt Long T-Shirt = Longer (so you can cover your pants a little more) Shirt
I have 10 designs on RB 😅 Just started and this happens hahah. Until there is a clear line between when standard turn into premium or whatever, im not going to spend my time there anymore.
in short, i just wanna know is there still any chances for beginners like us or should we leave? they charge money according to our earning and peoples who linked their PAYONEER account also charge little bit and is there's only few dollars we can get
Hi , after watching your video, I sent a suggestion to Redbubble requesting to consider deducting a fee if monthly sales exceeded Us$ 100 along with my username. After a couple of days time I got an email saying my account has been suspended . It's surprised and disappointed as I usually create designs by using Canva and kittl platforms. I had about 2000 designs uploaded there. Do you have any idea?
Hello sir, I am from India. Sir i am very sed. Design show of my teepublic store is not happening. There are 70 design in my store which have been delivered for 40 days but the show is not happening.Sir, I had also put a request but nothing happened. Sir tell me what to do.
Watch my TeePublic video here.....ruclips.net/video/1-bNBlgKJBY/видео.html If you did everything there it could be your designs. Create designs people want to buy
Wow that sucks! I’m on standard and going to be paying half my profit in fees. Yet, they say I have a free account. (See the top of the tier table). I’m in Australia, so don’t have much choice for POD locally 😢 😢 😢 ❤️🇦🇺
There is so much things to learn when you begin. I like creating but I just begin to learn about attracting traffic. Also if you only doing design around trending topics won't that make redbubble to uniform. I do often abstract art. That is not a trending topic I think.
Great video. BTW, did you see they also made changes to their affiliate commission ?? Their stock has been going down so much it's insane. Also- tiers appear to be random, got so many people in my group that have consistent sales that do their own marketing placed as standart, and people with 0 marketing and 2 sales from a year ago- made to be premium. super random.
I was thinking of starting a (professional) RB account to gain some extra money but after seeing this shit, I'm not so sure I want to do that because there's no way I can get out of the Standard tier anytime soon. I'm motivated to start print on demand so I'm gonna probably just start with another website instead...
Hey guys, please share to me: how much you earn on RB monthly and how many works you have now on RB and since when you started uploading works there? Just wonder is it worth to spend time working with RB or income is too low even for good designers?
There are more options that just leaving or staying! If RB are suddenly taking 30% from us, then one option is to increase our percentages to allow for this. Of course, it will make things more expensive, which will push RB further down the shitter but it's still an option.
The other option is to not care and make more money via scaling shops. They are only taking 30% or more from folks who are standard and not making much money. They are not taking 30% from anyone with the other 2 accounts nor anyone making great money on RB. Most folks make less than $100 on RB per month which is why they are doing this as most folks on RB are not producing much or any revenue for them but make up the bulk of the designs on their server space which cost money. There are like 2 million Designers on RB. If you make $5000 a month they ain't taking 30%, if you make $500 or more they only take $92. Are we really going nuts for $92 if we make decent money on RB? Most won't even get $92 taking because most don't even make $500 a month on RB. If I was making $50 a month on RB and thy took 50%, I wouldn't care, I wasn't making anything really in the first place and once I hit $500 it's only $92 which is fine by me. if you make $1000 per month, it's still only $92. If you make a lot, it's a small %, if you don't make much, ok, you still not making much anyway.
This change motivates me to upload more on Redbubble and to become more active there. I know a lot of people hate this change and I understand their point of view, especially if it has a negative impact on their business. But for me, I'm on the other end of the spectrum. I've been on Redbubble for around three years, and I quickly learned I hated the environment, what with all the spamming and thieving and low-quality designs drowning out those that try to do it right etc. So, I was very inactive and in my time there I've only ever uploaded less than 200 designs. I visited my account once every few months and my designs are mostly original artwork. In fact, I mostly just visited to see if someone was stealing any of my designs from Amazon Merch. I've been placed in the premium tier, so I know sales are not the one criterion that will keep you out of standard tier, since I've done very little in sales. But I do check off the other requirements (unique original designs, follow the rules - no spamming, I don't make cheap copycats of other design, I don't infringe). So for me, I feel like I'll invest some more time to see if I enjoy it better. Redbubble did say that once you're in the premium or pro tiers it is unlikely you will ever find yourself moved to the standard tier. That makes me think they're using the standard tier as a gateway to filter out some accounts that won't (or can't) fit into their new standards. Of course, I may be wrong, and they might just have gone bat-shit crazy, but only time will tell. 🤷
@AnimalsLover That's interesting! So, if I read you correctly, your largest account is standard, but the smaller shops are premium, but only generate $3 (three dollars) per month. I don't know your shop, but that makes me suspect there must be something very different about those two premium shops. You don't have to elaborate, but if you can share what you think may have caused this difference, please let us know. I suspect Redbubble is putting "Premium" status on shops they think have the most potential in the future, due to something they want to project to the public (perhaps very trendy unique designs, Fan Art, etc. ).
Just think how much time it takes a designer to create his work. It takes hours and hours to make something superb in order to be able to sell it. that in the end that design would cost cheap, plus the platform charges you a fee. it's a waste of time and it's time to abandon the sinking ship.
If I have to drive traffic then I'll just to my own website. The whole point of these platforms is they bring the buyers and sellers bring the art. I haven't started yet, so this cements my decision to just create my own site.
@@DetourShirts I have to add that long existing platforms like Ebay are failing at the traffic thing too. I don't who explained business to these clowns but their biggest offering is driving traffic. If you can't do that, then you don't have a business. Great channel BTW! :)
Hi Juna, You like some others who are very knowledgeable in this business have nothing good to say about this Redbubble (RB) disastrous change. RB has dugged it's own grave!!! My next step will be advising Redbubble that I'm out. I'll also give them an explanation as to why. Thanks to you and others for keeping us informed.
It seems like a fight from AI art posted but this will just add more AI accounts. I kinda get they didn't want to up the base price to keep artists, but still increase cost. I did close the S6 shop, but I will keep RB as is and post when i get a chance.
Wouldn't AI art get categorised as unique designs though, because it's not been published before and doesn't use licensed clipart, and therefore be accepted by RB? If people are being set at premium for AI shops, that would really be unfair on true artists.
@@happybunny1329 honestly dont think they care if the art is ai or not, but that too many are submitting to the site and making the browsing experience worse for those who are shopping. I think its there way of trying to up the quality of posting while lessening the number of submissions, but it might just back fire.
I dumped S6 when they said they would deduct shipping fees from our profit. I was getting undersold with my own design when I had the same design in both CP and Amazon, so I oped out of the marketplace on CP. With RB I will raise fees and wait and see.
holy shit! thanks for this amazing video! I've recently started my redbubble store and drive a lot of traffic from my pages on insta and tiktok (175k followers) and even sold 47 products in the first month and now this fee. wtf? I'd better move to some other platform for sure. hope some redbubble rep will reed this comment... redbubble is great by handling all the "dirty" work but maaaan.... thats not cool.
I think you look at this in a very reasonable manner. I can understand that they need to address issues with IP infringements, low quality designs and so on, but they handled this badly. It shows that you can't rely on Redbubble as a business partner, which is true for the other platforms as well. As they say, don't put all your eggs in one basket.
If Redbubble bought Teepublic.. I have to wonder if they will implement this same system over there? Your thoughts? I know you don't have a crystal ball, but if that is the mind set of Redbubble, one has to wonder if it will happen on their other platforms they own.
I wonder if they are planning to charge customers a yearly subscription fee to shop there as well. So my prices are all up to reflect the cost of these fees. Prices Redbubble right out of the market place. Total insanity. Hey any one want buy a t-shirt? I got lots of them, only forty five bucks each. Have a good day everyone, I have to go I have a couple of other pod sites that are going to be getting a lot more attention.
Been on RB since 2016. Made $21 on 300+ designs in total in all those years. Made 1000x more on other platforms for the exact same designs. No Marketing of my own. RB has always been last in my list to upload anything because of this. I am a pattern maker and thinking maybe they only want sticker designers and pop culture? Why offer blankets and home decor if this is the case? I am also “standard”
I meet all the requirements to be Premium, my profile is complete (social media, covers, etc), I have 100 unique designs created by me from scratch (not copying anyone), I have social accounts (Instagram, facebook, pinterest) and I drive traffic to them, never had a problem following their community guidelines and yet they put me on Standard tier! Those fees are crazy high in addition to product prices! But the most absurd thing is that there are many users in the comments on videos like this, that say they have like 5 designs and don't have sales and they are Premium! I'm so mad right now thanks for pointing out the survey I'm gonna hit them hard.
We should all increase our prices by 40% or 50% that's will probably affect negatively the whole platforme income and then...( if they are smart enough to see that ) they will make the situation back as it was
The problem with their murky tier system is they could keep bestselling accounts on Standard just to milk their earnings and there's nothing anyone could do about it.
unfortunately l'm not bothered with what RB is currently going trough as my account got suspended 2 days ago for no reason whatsoever. l never tagspammed, never violated their TOS on copyrights or other things. And was selling there for 3 years without ever getting a designs removed. l know the TOS for POD pretty well after doing it for 3 years and still have no clue why l got suspended. l'm not bothered with them, l hope they go bankrupt, and the way they are treating their sellers, that's only a matter of time, FU Redbubble
It looks like the best option is to make more sales. The more sales you make the less you pay. And the ones that sell less will pay more. Solution: sell over 500 dolars. Simple. 😂
They asked us to create fan art in accordance with the rules of their corporate partners, so I created my own fan art and tagged it in accordance with their rules. Woke up this morning to an all out ban. No thanks. I'm done with them
Thanks for the calm overview of these changes. The one that kills me is the extremely high percentages. You sold a sticker! Great, we’re keeping half. Half?! Yikes! Since this is a new change I will wait and see if they course correct in a few weeks. I also want to see if this helps eliminate tag spammers and thieves.
Yeah... you got to mark up sticker so high just to get $2 profit and they want half of it.
@@DetourShirts In fairness, I marked all my products up to 150% margin after their tier announcement and I’ve sold 3 stickers since then. People will clearly still pay a lot for a sticker if they really like it.
A comprehensive, well balanced presentation of the latest RB changes. I would love you to do a Shopify setup video! Thanks.
Yes... Shopify video on the list
Oh boy, I went thru their facts and glad to hear your views. Thks Juna
Glad I could help
I opened my RB shop yesterday following the tips on RB dashboard, like profile pic, shop banner, social link, bio, payment info, and uploaded 16 designs. today i got the email notification that RB classified my account as premium. not sure what i done correctly but i learn the design skill from Juna, and i applied it to RB, Teepublic.
Those designs are actually the same with my Teepublic account, but currently my Teepublic account still classified as Apprentice (shop opened for 1 week), and i've followed all the correct way for setting up the account.
What i like is that RB hold the newly opened shop, after they review, they will notify which category you are in, after that your shop will go live. but for Teepublic, they just assigned apprentice for a new store, i do not know if i still get the chance to move up to Artisan category
Yes! Congratulations!!
Great video, Juna, a nice antidote to some of the hysteria I've seen on certain other channels! I've left feedback today asking RB to publish the precise criteria for each tier and suggesting that accounts which make very small amounts of money each month should be exempt from fees. Beyond that, I'm just going to wait and see how things pan out.
Thanks for your comment.... yeah I didn't want to cause a panic or have people just follow me for no reason...... everyone can decide for themselves... I'm waiting to see what happens too
Hi Juna, Yes, I would love to see a video about driving traffic to offers on a website, or to RedBubble.
Thanks,
John
You got it
Thank you very much Juna. Your thoughts/comments on the issue are very helpful
Glad I could help
hello .thanks a lot Juna for info about Redbuble ..😊
You are very welcome
If you are fee sensitive, Etsy might not be a good choice. They charge 20 cents for each listing (which doesn't sound like a lot for one listing but it can really add up fast when you're uploading a lot of designs) and then you have to renew the listings every 4 months for another 20 cents each. They also have fees when you sell. And while running ads is optional, but it can be a way to get your listing seen higher up in the search results. And the ad fees and listing fees are due whether or not you make any sales at all.
@AnimalsLover Congrats on getting sales on Etsy! That's great! I personally never tried Redbubble (intuitively every time I considered it I felt it wasn't the right place for me). You are right, they are very different platforms.
Collean, thanks for taking the time to comment up above, I am not yet on Etsy, and your comment is helpful (as a warning).
Yes... totally agree... Etsy can cost you money... sometimes more than you make so you got to watch out.
@@DetourShirts But...For a beginner, it may be wise to apply your mech by Amazon system in what comes to uploading and setting to manual renewals. Basically, create xx amount of products, if they don't sell for that 0.20 fee then ditch what doesn't work, and make more of what works. For beginners...it may take some time to make designs that don't suck 🤔
Thanks, Juna. I took the survey and expressed my disatisfaction with the tier system. I've been on the platform for years now, and both of my accounts are standard. I don't think it's fair, and I don't care if they decide to ban me.
Thanks for you comment.... glad you left feedback for them
I am confounded by the paradoxical occurrence that one of my most successful accounts, adorned with a Fan-artist emblem and boasting an impressive catalogue of 1880 designs, has been subject to suspension, despite having amassed a substantial 11.5K sales. In stark contrast, my second account, which is meagre in both content and performance, with only 24 designs and a solitary sale to its name, has been bestowed with a premium tier. Such an incongruous situation has left me in a state of perplexity and bewilderment.
Yeah.... I don't understand it either.... I really wish RedBubble would be more clear with their sellers... It's like they don't care
My Redbubble account, which I opened two weeks ago was suspended as was my Tee public account. I'm perplexed as I did my due diligence, and checked to make sure that the quotes used on my tees were not copyrighted nor trademarked. I appealed my suspension, but I don't think that will help. Did you use a different computer to open up your other account? Please let me know.
Well, I think it is because, we all know, that 80-90% of the stuff, on RB, is garbage, and rarely makes a sale, so how would they get any money from that. They are putting stores, who make consistent sales, into that category, because that is the only way to get money from this. The 80-90% of people rarely make one sale, so they're going after the people who are making consistent sales. They won't go after the people who are featured as their "feature artists," but they will go after someone who is making consistent sales, and who is making them a lot of money, because that 80-90% hasn't made them a dime, and are just filling their site with garbage. I see misspelled words, and the same graphics over and over, being used on RB, so, I believe, they will take from people, such as yourself, because it's the only way to make money from this stupid idea.
I've heard this exact thing from many other multiple account designers.
RB Is cash-starved and trying to make quick money. They stick a big account in standard and take that 37% fee off of a much bigger pie. And what happens if that big account can't afford to just de-platform?
Looks like a lot of small, new accounts are being put in premium.
@@Dakotagirl823 Be glad - I've been selling consistently on RB each month until Jan 2023 and since then zero sales so assume somehow became invisible - recently did a reverse image search on just one of my designs and found at least 3 sellers on RB selling a full range of products with that design. As RB are so poor at monitoring what gets added to the site you may well find copycats selling your uploads anyway! Hope that helps ... plus after RB have taken this extra wadge from your royaltie and still got to pay the taxman ... what's going to be left then?!
Thanks for this tutorial! I just went to check out my tier and I'm Premium, yessss!🙏 Oh, I'm so happy! My thanks to you, because you explained precisely where to go and find out about account status! Thanks👍
Glad I could help
Thank you for your insight and your diplomatic candor. I'm going to stay on RedBubble for now, but if my profits don't improve in the next year, I have no loyalty or problem with leaving RedBubble. On the bright side, I'm optimistic that the wisdom YOU provide us will help me to be successful. Thank you, Juna!
Thanks Steve... I like your comment very much.... glad to help
Yes to setting up/doing/directing traffic please
You got it
Thank you for the video, great job explaining, I would like to know how to drive more traffic for our store...
Social media is a good start... but be smart about it don't just blast it everywhere
Thanks Juna! They put my account to standard, and I will wait it out as well just like how you decided to do.
Good to know there’s a survey link, I will fill one out too, and perhaps most of the sellers should consider leaving a feedback there, even though I am not sure if they’d ever read them based on their track records… at least we tried
I hope that works out and yes I hope all sellers do the survey
Great idea, I’m going to send feedback, DONE!
I hope they hear from a ton of sellers
Thanks, mate!
You're welcome!
Could you do a tutorial on Zazzle☕️Thanks
Yes... I do need to add that to the list
Juna, thanks for your RedBubble perspective. I was waiting for yours and Ryan Hogue's to help me think through whether to continue with RedBubble. One question I've had for a long time and you mentioned in this video--that you don't sell on Etsy. Can I ask you why? I tried looking for a video where you may have talked about that decision but I'm not able to find one. If it is something you're up for sharing, I would really appreciate your perspective in not being on Etsy.
So I stopped Etsy because it wasn't passive enough for me. I have a 9-5 and I need PODs that at are more set it and forget it. Etsy takes a lot of work. You have to answer messages, create mockups, do customer service... it's a lot more work and the more designs I add the more work I added to myself it was not scalable for the time I had. I got sales but I knew it was not sustainable for me with a 9-5 and my other PODs. I also didn't like having to keep track of all my sales individually. So it was mainly a time thing.
@@DetourShirts So, taking the costs, flexibility, and actual results/sales, which is your top POD platform? Teepublic? How about if you want to sell other products besides t-shirts? I was about to start a new shop and I thought Etsy could be a good option but I am open to any suggestions :)
I don’t understand how some newer sellers with not a lot of sales and designs got premium, some people with a lot of designs and sales are standard.
Yeah... it's so random
Been waiting for this ❤
Thanks... I hope it's helpful
@@DetourShirts For sure. Doesn’t sound like a great option for beginners anymore. I think they’re being vague cause they want to see how negatively this may affect them.
I just look at it as the cost of doing business. We now share the cost of storage, marketing, production, shipping, and customer service. The recent surge in accounts auto uploading 50 scaled versions of the same basic design a day has put a huge load on systems.
Yeah... higher costs everywhere
Good comment. I also think the proliferation of scaled designs is a problem, which displaces or dilutes the unique content, when pushed with spam tags, etc.
Erving more traffic often translates into being the workhorse for RB, driving it to potentially other sellers. The profit margin is not so low if you want to compete. It’s a fast slide to the bottom including RB if tself
Yeah... agreed... I'm interested to see how this plays out
Sadly people who auto upload crap to multiple platforms are the ones to thank. They upload, endless crappy designs and don't consider the platform they are uploading to. Amazon, Zazzle, Merch, Redbubble , Etsy are all cleaning house, closing accounts and making it harder to make money, not because they want to penalize the sellers but they want to get rid of the people who do NOT CARE about the quality of their work, and are just blindly uploading ugly designs and not going into fix their listings to make them look professional. So thank you makers of automated uploading tools, we have YOU to thank for this, IMHO.. I predicted this would happen several years ago when Automated uploaders became the rage. I said they would destroy the good thing we had, and here it is.
I feel sorry for those just starting out.. who don't have already established accounts.
Does make it tough for new users... we will see if this cleans up RedBubble
Your comment raises a good point. The auto uploading of "scaled" designs such as "Worlds Greatest (X)" is likely a problem for Redbubble (or their goals for the biz). They reduced the number of uploads from 50 per account to 30 a few months ago. I suspect that was due to the many auto uploaders that dump designs each day into the system.
The 60-designs-day guy 😑
Yeah, but Cancelling would mean losing some of my designs? Not all of my designs are saved on my Canva app..so I don't know what to do?
Always save the PNGs..... I not sure you can download it from RedBubble
Please, a tutorial on setting up printify for a Sophify would be great.
I'll add it to the list
Doesn’t RedBubble own TeePublic? I’m betting we’ll see the same thing there. Thoughts?
AND YES!!! Please 🙏🏼 A Shopify set up tutorial!!
RedBubble does own TeePublic but they are run completely separately and TeePublic has no plans (as of today) to do any tier system or extra fees.... in fact if you look at their pay structure and uploading it's completely different as well.
I hope things work for all Redbubble sellers. I am new to print on demand, & this youtube page. I am so new, haven't made a sale yet, because I am only have one design lol. I am slowly posting on on different sites, but Rebbubble is my starting point. I don't want to apply to Amazon Merch, until I build some experience, to increase my chances to getting accepted, not get banned. Thanks
Yeah... I hate to see companies fail even if they aren't doing the right thing at the moment.... they have so much potential
I checked my site and I’m at premium tier. I sold a shirt today but the last time I sold anything on RB was in December 2022. I’m not sure what will happen in May when it takes affect but I’ll wait and see what happens before I make any decisions. Also I have 500+ artworks.
Thanks for sharing... I hope things get better
I have an account with 140 designs and 970 sales. High quality designs. I put my heart into them. I still got Standard tier.
Yeah.. makes no sense... I don't get it
WOW! That's the opposite of what I would expect. Shocking really.
Please do a video of how I can create a website, add an ecommerce store and connect to Printful. Thank you
Working on it
And the same with teepublic about accounts being terminated, unless that has changed, which personally I have not tried.
Yeah... they need to fix that
I'm doing what you are doing. I have a Redbubble shop with about 275 designs. I haven't really been working heavily lately on it because I focused my attention elsewhere. I'm in the premium level. I'm going to wait it out and see what happens. I won't be unloading like crazy though just in case I do have to delete my store in the future. I am nervous they will do this to Teepublic where I seem to do much better on.
Unless you have a highly targeted shop that is successful 275 designs is beyond nothing. Believe it or not you are the average Redbubble uploader that has caused this to some degree. RB had about 2 millions designers and most of them don't make much money at all but it cost RB lots of money to have all these designs up on their website via server space and potential risk for infringement etc. The only shops with 200 designs or so that are highly successful are RUclipsr/Influencer shops, good designers who joined RB when it started so had first mover advantage and people who have multiple shops that already mastered RB so know what designs sell and how to boost it up to Page 1 when searched that also Mastered SEO on RB. If you're not one of these groups, having 275 and "waiting it out" is as useless as having 0 designs and not working on the shop, it's a lose lose. There's people who make $10,000 a year on RB which is success but not the actual success you can get on RB or Teepublic, Etsy, Amazon etc. That's beginner success or lazy success.
I watch a RUclipsr who makes Thousands on RB per month because he had 17 shops, and just sold I believe 8 in a bundle for like $170k to someone. I am 100% sure that's more success than anybody subscribed here including myself. If you want REAL success on RB it takes full dedication and Scale, same with TeePublic. You need thousands of designs which is not impossible. And these RB rules are nothing to be scared of at all, if you ain't making much money, you still ain't with a Standard account. If you ARE making lots of money, then the fee will be a small % for you. So what is everyone freaking out about? I don't agree with the policy/fees but it's not something to run from. You make $100 a month and you'll make like $50, $1000 a month and you'll make like $900, $10,000 a month and you make like $9,100 after the fee and it only impacts you if you actually make money so you're not paying RB out of pocket you're paying from profit. Why are you guys scared? it doesn't make sense to me.
Go scale your shops and be successful already. If you make $1000 a month in 1 shop that is minor success. That's not going to change your life. $1000 across 10 shops will because that's 6 figures a year or $3000 across 4 shops will because that's 6 figures a year, That's real success that I think we all want but we're not doing it because we're being lazy and complacent with minor success. if you can make money doing POD, you can make more money doing POD, it just take scale.
Thank you both for sharing your comments.
@@drjonesey5 I am in the premium level. (as stated in my comment that you replied on) I am not sure why you wrote this all out. I am an artist and do have a unique style and niche. I am content with how my stores do. I was only agreeing with Juna and plan on doing what he is going to do. I only stated I was "scared" about Teepublic because there was not a set in stone criteria on what level you are put in with this new Redbubble tier set up. I do well in my Teepublic store, more than my Redbubble. I'd prefer things do not change on that platform.
hi Juna hope all is well with you. just a quick question is RB allowed to sell AI images? thanks you
Yes you can!
Hi, juna! Do you think that with the new tiers system, the artists will earn way less money? I'm starting on redbubble actually, naming my account, making my bio, etc... What would you advise me to do as a beginner? How do I adapt myself to the new tiers system to make the most of it?
Make sure to create designs that people are looking for... raise your prices to get a good profit and share your designs on social media
I think the problem is that it isn't exactly clear how we can make our shop move up. I know people who have inactive shops with few sales who are premium and people who have active shops with followers and sales who are standard. I am done doing free work for RB when there is no indication it will help me move up. If they want us to make more sales, why take away the newsletters and things that would teach us how to do that? If anything, give us more of that stuff.
Yeah.... If it was more clear how to move it that would be a good incentive but just working hard not knowing is tough
I'm leaving RB after 3 yrs, never been accepted by Amazon so I will be researching tee public or another platform. Thank you for the info. I was going to leave a I think once they see that I unsubscribe they'll get.
Thanks for your comment....Hope you can find something else you like doing
Hi, juna. So what about the old profit/margin system that you could set as you see fit, like 60% for redbubble and 40% for me on my earnings?
Yeah... you can still change it if you want
I'm done with them. I'm not going to reward them for this terrible policy by staying. Everything is set up to make certain Standard stays Standard so they can continually take money from us. It also seems REALLY arbitrary who is ending up in which category. Some high sellers are in Standard. It breaks my heart to nuke my stores, but I just did my taxes and saw I'm still operating in the red when I consider what I pay for things like Canva, Kittl, and Creative Fabrica. I did better than the previous year and was hoping this year would be when I'd see a profit. No way am I going to voluntarily put myself in a deeper hole. Some people have suggested making your designs private for now. If people want to wait and see, that seems to me the better option.
Thanks for sharing your comments... I hope things get better for you
I left Redbubble yesterday. I'm going to focus just on my Zazzle stores now.
Good plan.... I hope that works out for you
@@DetourShirts Thank you.
I joined RB 3 month ago and get only 2 sales of sticker I had mix feeling because my is premium may be I Promot my product on social media 95% of traffic I get is through social media only
Wow. Premium with 2 sales you must be doing something they like
This is what I'm talking about. Small new sellers are being put in premium, and medium to large size sellers are being put in standard. Good way for redbubble to make some money for themselves.
WOW! That's a shock. Opposite of what I suspected. I assumed the Premium went to the big sellers or those who had many sales over several years on the platform. Hard to understand their method (Red's choice). But, you are lucky (or have what they want to see on the site).
I also got premium and I’ve never even had a sale and I only a handful of designs, it makes no sense.
Why my redbubbled work not showing in shop.its new account plz reply
If it's new I would give it a few days
@@DetourShirts thanks it's work
Thanks Jona, You are the best for me all the time, I would love you to do a Shopify setup video! Thanks. .... / Your fun from Algeria.
Planning on it
Hi Juna!
in your experience, what and when is the best type and time to use different options of garments from the same category provided by printing services such as printify, for example, t-shirts Gildan 2000 vs Gildan 5000 vs Gildan 64000, differences are mostly in weight and material, does this matter for customers or it doesn't really make a difference?
also, can you kindly help me out with the (universal) px sizes and resolutions of things - or rather what is accustomed in the pod business - for example, t-shirts, stickers, coloring books, patterns etc.
or if it cant be easily covered in a comment then i would love to see a video about it
Thank you!
I'll probably make a video.... but in the meantime I think shirt types are personal preference I usually go by color..... I like using 4500x5400 px for my product and it works pretty well for the most part.
Hi Juna, I was looking through Redbubble best selling t’s and it is confusing when you see t-shirts on there that are close to using trademarks. You might have done a video on this but can you give some pointers re getting close to this without getting cancelled. I noticed your Team Jacob t-shirt which doesn’t mention Twilight, so it is safe. Just need your knowledge and wisdom. Thank you, Wendy
I did that one a long time ago and luckily it didn't get taken down but I know better now.....It's better to just stay far away.... there are some fan art stuff that is legal but otherwise I would stay away from copyrighted stuff it's really tricky and hit and miss.
@@DetourShirts Ok, thank you Juna
Hi June. I think ther is going to be an uproar about this.
Oh yeah... there already is one
My designs are not showing in shop what should i do ??
You could try writing to RB or try to make designs that you think the RedBubble audience would like to see.
Please my question is about printful, can I change the mockup to my own mockup from canva
So Printul is just a printing app.... if you use printful with Shopify or Etsy or something else... yes you can definitely use a mockup from Canva or anywhere... I would also include the printful mockups to show the different colors
@@DetourShirts okay, thank you for the reply. Please can you make a video on this? I'm using woocommerce
Well, if RB sells my IP, regardless of how low my sales are, then they are using my IP without compensation. Anyone know a good Class Action Atorney?
I think you signed something or agreed to something to be on RedBubble but I can see what you are saying
@@DetourShirts True. But,those rules have changed.
@@DetourShirts All the wasted time. So sad for so many. Just this year, made a whopping $50. Oh, and let's not forget the 175 take down notices of copyright infringement that I had to file to RB. Then there is the sub standard printing of tshirt. What a Stellar outfit.
I am wondering, will they change teepublic fee structure next...
I really don't think so... not anytime soon anyway... they are totally different
In redbubble im so confused in tshirt types can u help me with that?
Essential = Basic (Cheaper) T-Shirt
Premium = More Expensive/Higher Quality T-Shirt
Fitted T-Shirt = A Tighter Fit Shirt
Long T-Shirt = Longer (so you can cover your pants a little more) Shirt
I have 10 designs on RB 😅 Just started and this happens hahah. Until there is a clear line between when standard turn into premium or whatever, im not going to spend my time there anymore.
Yeah....I wish they would make it clearer
Thank you
You are very welcome
Sir, It is possible to logout that account and create another account and put the same design in it. Will there be any problem in that.
You can't have 2 active accounts with the same designs
Sir, if first deactivate the design from the account then what is possible
in short, i just wanna know
is there still any chances for beginners like us or should we leave?
they charge money according to our earning and peoples who linked their PAYONEER account also charge little bit
and is there's only few dollars we can get
There is always a chance.... it just got harder
@@DetourShirts let's try, how it goes
but atleast it is far easy than paying them by ourselves monthly
Can we try to discover the minimum sales to move to Premium?
I have 1.5k sales and I'm still Standard.
Yeah... RB is so vague... probably on purpose
Hi , after watching your video, I sent a suggestion to Redbubble requesting to consider deducting a fee if monthly sales exceeded Us$ 100 along with my username. After a couple of days time I got an email saying my account has been suspended . It's surprised and disappointed as I usually create designs by using Canva and kittl platforms. I had about 2000 designs uploaded there. Do you have any idea?
Yikes.... sorry to hear that.... I have no idea why RedBubble would do that.
Pls share how to setup printful
Yes... I will have to make a video
Hello sir, I am from India. Sir i am very sed. Design show of my teepublic store is not happening. There are 70 design in my store which have been delivered for 40 days but the show is not happening.Sir, I had also put a request but nothing happened. Sir tell me what to do.
Did you complete your profile details?
Watch my TeePublic video here.....ruclips.net/video/1-bNBlgKJBY/видео.html If you did everything there it could be your designs. Create designs people want to buy
The Fees are in place only when you make a Sale Correct?
yes, no regular monthly fee. But you pay for every single sale you make, even if it is just a dollar for a sticker.
That is correct... you basically just get paid less
Wow that sucks! I’m on standard and going to be paying half my profit in fees. Yet, they say I have a free account. (See the top of the tier table). I’m in Australia, so don’t have much choice for POD locally 😢 😢 😢 ❤️🇦🇺
So it is still FREE technically but yes you will get less per sale.
@@DetourShirts 😭🤯
There is so much things to learn when you begin. I like creating but I just begin to learn about attracting traffic. Also if you only doing design around trending topics won't that make redbubble to uniform. I do often abstract art. That is not a trending topic I think.
I think they say trending topic when they just mean the want you to design something that sells trending or not.
@@DetourShirts ah ok.
Great video.
BTW, did you see they also made changes to their affiliate commission ?? Their stock has been going down so much it's insane. Also- tiers appear to be random, got so many people in my group that have consistent sales that do their own marketing placed as standart, and people with 0 marketing and 2 sales from a year ago- made to be premium. super random.
I agree Mey, the tiers are so random.....thanks for sharing your thoughts
I actually opened a new account yesterday and uploaded 8 designs that are super simple and got premium. 🤷♀
thank you for mention this, their stock dropped so much that they in despair have to make money to the investors so the tiers it's the response lol
I was thinking of starting a (professional) RB account to gain some extra money but after seeing this shit, I'm not so sure I want to do that because there's no way I can get out of the Standard tier anytime soon. I'm motivated to start print on demand so I'm gonna probably just start with another website instead...
Good luck... I hope you find something that works for you
Hey guys, please share to me: how much you earn on RB monthly and how many works you have now on RB and since when you started uploading works there? Just wonder is it worth to spend time working with RB or income is too low even for good designers?
It depends on how much you need it to be worth it.... I make about $200-$300 per month
There are more options that just leaving or staying! If RB are suddenly taking 30% from us, then one option is to increase our percentages to allow for this. Of course, it will make things more expensive, which will push RB further down the shitter but it's still an option.
Great point... I should have mentioned that.... you could increase prices... I totally missed it.... thanks for your comment
@@DetourShirts you're welcome
The other option is to not care and make more money via scaling shops. They are only taking 30% or more from folks who are standard and not making much money. They are not taking 30% from anyone with the other 2 accounts nor anyone making great money on RB. Most folks make less than $100 on RB per month which is why they are doing this as most folks on RB are not producing much or any revenue for them but make up the bulk of the designs on their server space which cost money. There are like 2 million Designers on RB. If you make $5000 a month they ain't taking 30%, if you make $500 or more they only take $92. Are we really going nuts for $92 if we make decent money on RB? Most won't even get $92 taking because most don't even make $500 a month on RB.
If I was making $50 a month on RB and thy took 50%, I wouldn't care, I wasn't making anything really in the first place and once I hit $500 it's only $92 which is fine by me. if you make $1000 per month, it's still only $92. If you make a lot, it's a small %, if you don't make much, ok, you still not making much anyway.
Yeah, great point. I guess that Redbubble just got 30% more expensive for buyers.
This change motivates me to upload more on Redbubble and to become more active there. I know a lot of people hate this change and I understand their point of view, especially if it has a negative impact on their business. But for me, I'm on the other end of the spectrum. I've been on Redbubble for around three years, and I quickly learned I hated the environment, what with all the spamming and thieving and low-quality designs drowning out those that try to do it right etc. So, I was very inactive and in my time there I've only ever uploaded less than 200 designs. I visited my account once every few months and my designs are mostly original artwork. In fact, I mostly just visited to see if someone was stealing any of my designs from Amazon Merch. I've been placed in the premium tier, so I know sales are not the one criterion that will keep you out of standard tier, since I've done very little in sales. But I do check off the other requirements (unique original designs, follow the rules - no spamming, I don't make cheap copycats of other design, I don't infringe). So for me, I feel like I'll invest some more time to see if I enjoy it better. Redbubble did say that once you're in the premium or pro tiers it is unlikely you will ever find yourself moved to the standard tier. That makes me think they're using the standard tier as a gateway to filter out some accounts that won't (or can't) fit into their new standards. Of course, I may be wrong, and they might just have gone bat-shit crazy, but only time will tell. 🤷
Thanks for sharing your perspective.... hope you do well
@AnimalsLover That's interesting! So, if I read you correctly, your largest account is standard, but the smaller shops are premium, but only generate $3 (three dollars) per month. I don't know your shop, but that makes me suspect there must be something very different about those two premium shops. You don't have to elaborate, but if you can share what you think may have caused this difference, please let us know.
I suspect Redbubble is putting "Premium" status on shops they think have the most potential in the future, due to something they want to project to the public (perhaps very trendy unique designs, Fan Art, etc. ).
@AnimalsLover you're right, I would be pissed if I was placed in the standard tier. That's why I said I understand why many people hate the change.
I don't think they care about Artists leaving?
Yeah... I'm sure they had to see that scenario play out
Just think how much time it takes a designer to create his work.
It takes hours and hours to make something superb in order to be able to sell it.
that in the end that design would cost cheap, plus the platform charges you a fee.
it's a waste of time and it's time to abandon the sinking ship.
Very good points... thanks for sharing
My failing accou t is the only one on Premium on RB....so I will try to upload only on that one for now to get sales without cuts.
Good plan
If I have to drive traffic then I'll just to my own website. The whole point of these platforms is they bring the buyers and sellers bring the art. I haven't started yet, so this cements my decision to just create my own site.
Great point
@@DetourShirts I have to add that long existing platforms like Ebay are failing at the traffic thing too. I don't who explained business to these clowns but their biggest offering is driving traffic. If you can't do that, then you don't have a business. Great channel BTW! :)
Which Shopify layout is that?
My shopify layout is called Debut
@@DetourShirts Thank you, was having a bit of a hard time with layout
My redbubble shop is premium. Hmm. I think the way they judge which tier your shop will be is not on sale, but via social engagement.
They definitely want social engagement.
Hi Juna,
You like some others who are very knowledgeable in this business have nothing good to say about this Redbubble (RB) disastrous change. RB has dugged it's own grave!!!
My next step will be advising Redbubble that I'm out. I'll also give them an explanation as to why.
Thanks to you and others for keeping us informed.
You are very welcome
I have seen people that have only made 11 sales put on premium whereas I had 300 sales and put on standard
Yup... makes no sense
I left RB in 2021, they don't have products I design for 😀, zazzle, Society6 and KDP are my platforms 😉
Good to know... thanks for sharing... I forgot to mention KDP
@@DetourShirts I do well on KDP with very specific books 👍
It seems like a fight from AI art posted but this will just add more AI accounts.
I kinda get they didn't want to up the base price to keep artists, but still increase cost.
I did close the S6 shop, but I will keep RB as is and post when i get a chance.
Thanks for sharing... Hmmm I didn't think about the AI part of this
Wouldn't AI art get categorised as unique designs though, because it's not been published before and doesn't use licensed clipart, and therefore be accepted by RB? If people are being set at premium for AI shops, that would really be unfair on true artists.
@@happybunny1329 honestly dont think they care if the art is ai or not, but that too many are submitting to the site and making the browsing experience worse for those who are shopping. I think its there way of trying to up the quality of posting while lessening the number of submissions, but it might just back fire.
In a way it seems like we are working for Redbubble and not ourselves. Not sure about this.
They definitely are taking more
Society 6 is adding fees as well
Yup... that's what I hear
@@DetourShirts and now TeePublic :/
I dumped S6 when they said they would deduct shipping fees from our profit. I was getting undersold with my own design when I had the same design in both CP and Amazon, so I oped out of the marketplace on CP. With RB I will raise fees and wait and see.
holy shit! thanks for this amazing video! I've recently started my redbubble store and drive a lot of traffic from my pages on insta and tiktok (175k followers) and even sold 47 products in the first month and now this fee. wtf? I'd better move to some other platform for sure. hope some redbubble rep will reed this comment... redbubble is great by handling all the "dirty" work but maaaan.... thats not cool.
Nope... I wonder how they are doing now... it's been like 3 months or so
I think you look at this in a very reasonable manner. I can understand that they need to address issues with IP infringements, low quality designs and so on, but they handled this badly. It shows that you can't rely on Redbubble as a business partner, which is true for the other platforms as well. As they say, don't put all your eggs in one basket.
Totally agree with not putting all you eggs in one basket...very scary
What are our options !
I share it in the video.... Lot's of other POD sites out there... my top 3 would be Amazon, TeePublic or Etsy... they all have really good traffic.
Hi Juna, may i ask u does teepublic have new tiers and fees like Redbubble? i'm a newbie here 🙃thxxxxxx
Nope... no new tiers or fees on TeePublic
@@DetourShirts ok thx
If Redbubble bought Teepublic.. I have to wonder if they will implement this same system over there? Your thoughts? I know you don't have a crystal ball, but if that is the mind set of Redbubble, one has to wonder if it will happen on their other platforms they own.
They are run separately and even their pay structure and upload processes are different... I don't they will do a tier system anytime soon.
Hi can you make a tutorial on making videos on youtube
You bet.... that would be fun
I wonder if they are planning to charge customers a yearly subscription fee to shop there as well. So my prices are all up to reflect the cost of these fees. Prices Redbubble right out of the market place. Total insanity. Hey any one want buy a t-shirt? I got lots of them, only forty five bucks each. Have a good day everyone, I have to go I have a couple of other pod sites that are going to be getting a lot more attention.
Thanks for your comment... would be funny if you sell a $45 shirt
Been on RB since 2016. Made $21 on 300+ designs in total in all those years. Made 1000x more on other platforms for the exact same designs. No Marketing of my own. RB has always been last in my list to upload anything because of this. I am a pattern maker and thinking maybe they only want sticker designers and pop culture? Why offer blankets and home decor if this is the case? I am also “standard”
Thanks for sharing your story.... I don't get a lot of sales on patterns either.... I think you are right about the stickers
Thanks for making this video. I think RedBubble has lost their mind. Please make a video on how to setup a Shopify account.
Right.... I still have that on the list... thanks for the reminder
No no cool bans on redbubble and even now it is pro and super, ambitious ;)
Thanks for your comment
I'll have to check out Teepublic
Oh yeah... it's worth a look
Not necessary driving traffic to your own designs. It’s working for “the Man.”
Good point... thanks for sharing
I meet all the requirements to be Premium, my profile is complete (social media, covers, etc), I have 100 unique designs created by me from scratch (not copying anyone), I have social accounts (Instagram, facebook, pinterest) and I drive traffic to them, never had a problem following their community guidelines and yet they put me on Standard tier!
Those fees are crazy high in addition to product prices! But the most absurd thing is that there are many users in the comments on videos like this, that say they have like 5 designs and don't have sales and they are Premium! I'm so mad right now thanks for pointing out the survey I'm gonna hit them hard.
Sorry to hear that....yeah, I don't understand their tier system either
@@DetourShirts I just increased my markup by 100% on all products. Let's see.
It's really a sad moment for all. BUT u really do have straight face in all ur videos not gonna lie😂😂
I have no emotions 😂 I just don't want to influence the audience... people should decide on their own... it's a big decision
We should all increase our prices by 40% or 50% that's will probably affect negatively the whole platforme income and then...( if they are smart enough to see that ) they will make the situation back as it was
Not a bad idea to increase profits
They just increased fees, they are now taking over half of artists income
Yikes... sorry to hear that
Yea they increased crazy b**
The problem with their murky tier system is they could keep bestselling accounts on Standard just to milk their earnings and there's nothing anyone could do about it.
unfortunately l'm not bothered with what RB is currently going trough as my account got suspended 2 days ago for no reason whatsoever. l never tagspammed, never violated their TOS on copyrights or other things. And was selling there for 3 years without ever getting a designs removed. l know the TOS for POD pretty well after doing it for 3 years and still have no clue why l got suspended. l'm not bothered with them, l hope they go bankrupt, and the way they are treating their sellers, that's only a matter of time, FU Redbubble
Thanks for sharing.... time will tell... hope you find something you like doing
It looks like the best option is to make more sales. The more sales you make the less you pay. And the ones that sell less will pay more. Solution: sell over 500 dolars. Simple. 😂
Thanks for sharing
It seems like more and more subscriptions are doing this. Upping the price and added an extra income.
Yeah... POD is not the same anymore
They asked us to create fan art in accordance with the rules of their corporate partners, so I created my own fan art and tagged it in accordance with their rules. Woke up this morning to an all out ban. No thanks. I'm done with them
Yikes... thanks for sharing