@@sarangfied Who knows, maybe. It is just probably difficult to manage 12 girls group. Now they are in 2 companies (5+%] and Chuu and Yves are extra too, it will be probably financially easier to do smaller projects and then to make a cooperation project. That actuallz seems a very good idea to split them, we will see. Their mutual bond is strong and their connection to the fandom too, so they are probably a group that can pulll something so unique off. We will see.
I feel like we would've gotten all of that still under BBC if Jaden wouldn't have left or BBC would've been more interested into pushing lore in MVs. But in the end, I'm glad that all 12 girls made it out of that hell of a company.
1. The dreamcatcher can also been seen (albeit slightly) in XIIX teaser with Gowon, it's supposedly inside the car that she's chasing. 2. Our "frog" officially changed her animal to "teddy bear". I noticed this in all of their recent instagram posts, but also, Yeojin always had a "dual animal representation", the teddy bear has been there since her debut (quite literally in her debut photos) and she always preffered the bear over the frog. (You later pointed the stuffed teddy as her outfit accessory) 3. When we get a look of the building, there are 2 things to notice: 1) the building is round (or roundish) like the building in Eclipse; 2) the buidling has leveled stairs, like the leveled platform from ++ album and hi high. 4. In the audition room, the Doughnut shirt judge is the only one to not clap, the other two judges do, some said this is a reference to the Donut company that BBC worked with that caused a lot of issues and controversy. The middle judge has an hourglass, which is funny, considering they already have a digital clock to check time, so I guess the hourglass might be a reference to their world tour poster, it also had an hourglass (and coincidentally, an hourglass has a similar shape to a moebius strip, or infinity, just vertical). 5. The scene where Gowon holds the crystal is again reminiscent of the XIIX teaser, where she opens her clasped hands to "release" butterflies. As she sits down at the table, it's a direct reference to One&Only, when she's sitting at the front and Yves and Chuu sit further away from her on both sides. Also, someone pointed out that the quartz geode is just a half, so they might (hypothetically) look for the other half. (Additional info, the room they're in, has similar flowery wallpapers like her debut pictures, and it also looks a tad bit similar to Hyunjin's room in Around you). 6. As some already pointed out, Vivi behind the camera is a reference to her behind the camcorder in EILY. 7. A lot of people miss the fish tank behind the girls when they're doing the "sensitive ah ah-ah-ahhhh" part in the roller skating ring dance break. Literally the reference to our fish girl and SITR. (Plus pink and purple neon colours) 8. The weird sqare hallway that Hyunjin looks at but walks away from (after she leaves the sleeping capsules room), reminds me a bit of that black and white room in Why Not where 2Jin did the dance. 9. When you mentioned how the Earth is opposite, it reminded me of all the "opposite" situations in Loona. For one, Yves and Vivi's storyline, this was discussed on a number of occasions, and we still don't know if those were real or a dream. WHICH BRINGS ME TO "SENSITIVE", the whole MV looks like a dream someone (in this case Hyunjin) would have, and the weird guy looking at them from the shadows reminds me of how Kim Lip looked at herself in Girl Front, or how Hyunjin and Choerry communicated with the mirror/map in the same MV (which is located in LA "coincindentally"). The shadow guy could very well represent BBC, and I'll take that interpretation any day.
8:32 i read somewhere that the satellite formation could represent Loossemble(5 facing light) and ARTMS(5 in the shadows) with 2 just outside of screen(Chuuves) 10:03 also read somewhere the kinda creepy figure could be Jaden Jeong or anyone who tried to absorb the members before their wake 14:52 ever wondered why it’s Vivi manning the ship? it’s bcs she’s a Robot. it seems like she could access the control panels out of nowhere
About Jaden, I don't know what the Ssemble girls' opinion of him is, but considering he signed with the other 5, chances are some might've had better relations with him than others. People are different, and they appreciate different business partners. Just because Heejin, Kim Lip, Jinsoul, Choerry and Haseul like working with him, doesn't mean Hyeju or other girls do. Specifically yyxy members, I think they had the worst experience with Jaden. Anyway, I don't think the shadow guy is Jaden, but it could very well be BBCs CEO or a CEO of another company (cough, Universal Music Japan, cough), heck they even referenced the Donut guy. Edit: I saw another comment about the shadow guy being Jaden, but not in a negative way, as in, referencing future collabs with artms. In that case it could be him, as this person mentioned the hairstyle too. I don't know what to think anymore. 🤡
@@Miraiana honestly this is a very solid take and very plausible; we did hear many negative rumours about him back then, and while they may be rumours, it doesn't mean that none weren't true. although, yes i would like to be optimistic about jaden being the shadow person ^^
Just a mini reminder that ViVi was already a "CYBORG" after "Love&Live" in my POV... (Android meant full robot, but she seem transferred after that) Besides,there were also a cryo. pod for her in the cabin...
One thing I just noticed, when you see Vivi in front of her captain's panel in the spaceship, the CORE ANALYSIS - DRIVE STATUS graphic is two pentagonal cylinders, ie: two 5 sided structures. ARTMS and Loossemble are two 5 member groups. I wonder... 🥰
Ok, i'm an idiot and my brain was reaching for what I desired 😳they are HEXAGONAL cores, so 6 sides each. I mean it still makes 12, but please forget this comment...
17:04 eyes are watering. What?! totally missed that detail. I love the reference! I've always loved the intro, so this is really soothing the nostalgia.
In the mv, in some scenes we can see how they are searching for their friends because in their teaser "searching for their friends" (the rest of LOONA) they showed all the spots where the members of LOOSSEMBLE are looking at the sky. In the minute 3:50 Gowon and Hyeju are watching the sky, 3:51 Hyunjin is looking the sky and at 8:30 Hyeju and Yeojin are also watching the sky.
i couldn't really tell what animal it was but the stuffed animal on yeojin's skirt could be referencing how she changed her representative animal to a bear
Since 1/3 had the ballet yyxy had the hip/hop With oec being offscreen yet probably a mixture of both dance styles Maybe we have simultaneous timelines/different pov memories going on in the dreamland cuz of where the members comes from
And many of us exactly think the same. I mean two ladies in a car, holding hands. It looks really similar to that scene with Thelma and Louise. And the meaning behind that would also be interesting.
A couple of interesting thing is on the posters there's a green on for Haseul and the pink head phones for Heejin. Also the sticker patterns on Gowon is reminiscent of Heejin's stickers in Why, Not.
They played an audio clip during the showcase which some people allege is the convo Gowon and Hyeju are having while on the steps outside 🥹 I was at the show but didn’t connect that clip with the MV I just thought the convo was really cute 😭
I saw footage! They say is the convo bc it's immediately after the auntie scene and makes sense. It's also GoWon and Hyeju's voices, apparently. This is the subtitled dialogue: - Hey look, remember? - Of course. Still beautiful. - That's where we were. - Are we okay now? - Yes, because we're together. - Happy to be together. - Do you think it's even more beautiful place that we're going? - You'll love it. Everyone is waiting, so let's go. - Let's go. And the spaceship footage rolls
oh btw, all members have butterflies on their outfits in the dream concept part. Gowon's is on her cowboy boots and Hyeju's is the lace part of her hard rock shirt :D
the LOONA members are extremely special. I cannot begin to exaggerate and even explain how much the members cherish and love one another. This just shows the efforts- the struggle to fight against the one common foe. Although LOONA are split up into different agencies and projects, we can safely assume that all members are ensuring to take their struggle story and incorporating it into the lore (it’s just so obvious at this point). They are going to reunite once again, with the lore progressing more and more over time. OT12 for the Win!! And thank you Eric for making this video
Yeojin's little stuffed bear on her skirt is because she's officially no longer a frog, she's a bear. And 2021-7 would also make sense on HyunJin's pod, because that's Loona's first music show win as 12 members.
i think all of this is somehow connected to FLIP THAT. the planet being flipped, the telescope scene, the idea of an alternate course of events, they watching a reminiscent of WhyNot on a TV (another video that plays with the idea of traveling tru time).
Nice video! But there are some things I noticed in the mv too. The first one is in the part where they are in the car, in the final fifteen seconds before they disappear, they all reminded me a lot of their teaser from the Origin album. Especially Gowon. The second thing is in the room where the capsules are, it reminded me a lot of the BBC practice room..., with a glass wall of several doors in the background. And the third thing is before Hyunjin meets Vivi, she passes through a hallway, stops and looks at the camera, while she is in the dark, this is a reference to Hyeju in the Cinema Theory teaser.
As a nerd I knew you count the frames Cuz of the ending I knew it'll be the longest cuz I feel since inception this maybe the longest lore MV we got outside of intro/teasers.... I love how our brains work, and I love how we are going to get to add to the lore we had from the beginning instead of a retcon... It's a reboot...
I think the man in the dark who sees them while he runs is Jaden Jeong, because of his haircut he always styles his hair like that, if it's him it would be good news, right?
OK so I'm not the only one that thought this! He never made an appearance before so why now raises a few questions, especially not it the group mv for the group he isn't managing. But jaden watching would be cool. I also think of Kim lip watching herself in girl front, so maybe a member stand in (there is the males play members for storyline theory)
I'm conflicted, because if it's a good thing, (like Kim Lip in GF) I'd be happy, coz then we know they're referencing future collabs with Artms. But if the shadow guy is a "bad guy", then I hope it's not Jaden, but one of the CEOs...
11:55 The stuffed toy on yeojin skirt seems looks like a teddy bear... As far as I remember, Teddy bear was meant to be Yeojin's animal but BBC change to frog before debut... (Probably the debut song match "The Frog Prince" theme so they forced her to change...)
in addition to the wonderful theory comments aside this, i would love to note that with you pointing out the possible settings this mv is in the loonaverse, the 3 judges in the auditions are wearing suits. the only other ppl wearing suits currently are oec and i feel that this does solidify the setting of them moving to earth, from eden !
okay while streaming the mv again i noticed that the shirt has a black mother duck and a regular yellow duck chick. tell me I'm looking too much into this if i really am but... black aquatic birds remind me quite a lot of the ugly duckling story. but we actually find out that said duckling was actually a cygnet - a baby SWAN ! which is none other than yves' animal. it also helps that in her mv video where she golf putts all the animal toys, her animal is represented by a cygnet too - which, putting both themes together, adds to the song's message of becoming "new." not to mention, the message of this shirt seems to also be a nod to the chaotic story of loona's history and its current state of affairs. i feel that the duckling might be an allusion to chuu also being outside of this group along with yves, just here in visual rep as to show their support in spirit.
7:15 little note about the audition scene: typically with dance auditions, you’ll first audition in a group and then be called back individually if the judges want to see more of you before making a decision. in this case it would make sense that hyunjin was called back, because she’s the leader of loossemble and this audition in the video might’ve been a factor in her being chosen as the captain of loossemble in-universe. just a neat extra detail :)
on the destination while they are in the ship, it has loona’s debut date! maybe instead of going to earth to find them they are in fact going back in time to loonas debut to restart everything
Just stating the obvious, but Vivi being the only one awake (indicating she doesn't need sleep?) and controlling the ship is probably cause she's an android.
@@dnxrtms I would actually love to see it, mostly because singling out the only non-KR member of the group as a different race entirely has... well, quite the implication. Not to mention how she has almost always been singled out in other ways, e.g. line distributions & center time
@@balaynganiyebe Exactly. I feel like that plot line worked well bc the loona verse mirrors our reality. At first it was cool to introduce viví as different bc she was but now that she has mastered korean/korean culture they should utilize that plot point. it’s an interesting idea what it means to be an android nowadays and why it might not be what everyone wants- maybe viví wants to be human or maybe she needs to be. the scope could be grander than what i am imagining , there’s so much potential
I want to say, and another video said as well, the 2 ladies at the beginning are very reminiscent to the American film Thelma and Louise which explores women breaking the mold.
The coordinates is actually London which was the first leg of the ARTMS European Tour since there isn't a Longitude you put 0 (51 degrees N and 0 degrees W is London). I tried doing the same thing as you did but it didn't give any coordinates.
I personally have a theory that the white figure who chases the girls in ARTMS' "Birth" is somewhat of a mother figure. the way they fall as babies and she grows them like obedient flowers I think ties into "Flower Rhythm" as well! and they seem to realize she indeed is not a true mother or guardian, and are trying to escape her, however she comes to collect them and bring them back. It also reminds me of how the girls in YYXY's "Love4Eva" were kept locked with the blond lady who raised them to be perfect, and how they wish to run away and escape her, as well!
I think the clock in the car is amount of members 12:00:00 (LOONA 12) ↓ 05:00:00 (Loossemble 5) ↓ 00:00:12 (OT12) They are looking for their friends. So I believe that we can see OT12 in the future😢❤
i think it’s referencing the donut lawsuit. when Loona was still with bbc they made a contract with a company called donut for the girls to promote their app but bbc never followed through and so donut sued bbc. it was the start of bbc going bankrupt iirc
i've been struggling to figure out why hyunjin was the only member to have 2 outfits for the dream ver concept. i mean sure vivi has photos of her with/without pink hat but hyunjin's two looks are so completely different.. why tho if they changed their minds mid shoot and decided to go for the denim look that ended up in the mv, why not just leave out images of the other look altogether? why use those for her individual cover and other album inclusions? did no one at any point find it a bit odd to include a whole second look for just one member and not the other four? i'm not concerned about the matter of being fair, i'm sure it's got nothing to do with that - i just couldn't quite wrap my mind around this, why this seemingly intentional decision of keeping two hyunjin outfits? the second look has no butterfly motifs tho, only stars and teddy bears (which could relate to yeojin's plushie?)
Also, you didn't mention that in the cryo-pod scene, two of them are different and have a white panel at the foot of the pod, numbers 9 (Yves) and 10 (Chuu). Interesting... 🤭🫠
@@Hidye1 It could be, but there are a lot of ceiling lights and they are as evenly spaced as the pods themselves, so i'm not sure I think there would only be bright reflections on only those two pods... anyway, it's all wonderfully epic.
the old ladies at the beginning were actually saying "loosemble roty"
I'd believe it
Yasss i love loosemble not LOOSSEMBLE 😍😍😍
@@Triplesss-obichloosemble, loossemble, re-assemble, however you wanna spell it it's still pronounced "roty" 🥰
The old ladies actually said "loosemble ended 5th gen and got 1928282 Grammys" it's true i was there
ViVi being the one to take the picture also reminds me of her with an analog camera in her solo MV
oh right !! also imho it seems like a nod to her whole loona theory vid where she records her time training with loona
I love how loona is giving us solos, New units and units comebacks.... I wished for that, Just didn't know OT12 needed to end for it to happen
To be fair if they were in a better company I feel that we could already get unit comebacks and or maybe units
@@sarangfied Who knows, maybe. It is just probably difficult to manage 12 girls group. Now they are in 2 companies (5+%] and Chuu and Yves are extra too, it will be probably financially easier to do smaller projects and then to make a cooperation project. That actuallz seems a very good idea to split them, we will see. Their mutual bond is strong and their connection to the fandom too, so they are probably a group that can pulll something so unique off. We will see.
I feel like we would've gotten all of that still under BBC if Jaden wouldn't have left or BBC would've been more interested into pushing lore in MVs. But in the end, I'm glad that all 12 girls made it out of that hell of a company.
honestly this is a bit heartbreaking... however it is just as cathartic and hubristic
they havent ended tho!!!! the members said they want to comeback as 12
1. The dreamcatcher can also been seen (albeit slightly) in XIIX teaser with Gowon, it's supposedly inside the car that she's chasing.
2. Our "frog" officially changed her animal to "teddy bear". I noticed this in all of their recent instagram posts, but also, Yeojin always had a "dual animal representation", the teddy bear has been there since her debut (quite literally in her debut photos) and she always preffered the bear over the frog. (You later pointed the stuffed teddy as her outfit accessory)
3. When we get a look of the building, there are 2 things to notice:
1) the building is round (or roundish) like the building in Eclipse;
2) the buidling has leveled stairs, like the leveled platform from ++ album and hi high.
4. In the audition room, the Doughnut shirt judge is the only one to not clap, the other two judges do, some said this is a reference to the Donut company that BBC worked with that caused a lot of issues and controversy.
The middle judge has an hourglass, which is funny, considering they already have a digital clock to check time, so I guess the hourglass might be a reference to their world tour poster, it also had an hourglass (and coincidentally, an hourglass has a similar shape to a moebius strip, or infinity, just vertical).
5. The scene where Gowon holds the crystal is again reminiscent of the XIIX teaser, where she opens her clasped hands to "release" butterflies.
As she sits down at the table, it's a direct reference to One&Only, when she's sitting at the front and Yves and Chuu sit further away from her on both sides.
Also, someone pointed out that the quartz geode is just a half, so they might (hypothetically) look for the other half. (Additional info, the room they're in, has similar flowery wallpapers like her debut pictures, and it also looks a tad bit similar to Hyunjin's room in Around you).
6. As some already pointed out, Vivi behind the camera is a reference to her behind the camcorder in EILY.
7. A lot of people miss the fish tank behind the girls when they're doing the "sensitive ah ah-ah-ahhhh" part in the roller skating ring dance break. Literally the reference to our fish girl and SITR. (Plus pink and purple neon colours)
8. The weird sqare hallway that Hyunjin looks at but walks away from (after she leaves the sleeping capsules room), reminds me a bit of that black and white room in Why Not where 2Jin did the dance.
9. When you mentioned how the Earth is opposite, it reminded me of all the "opposite" situations in Loona. For one, Yves and Vivi's storyline, this was discussed on a number of occasions, and we still don't know if those were real or a dream. WHICH BRINGS ME TO "SENSITIVE", the whole MV looks like a dream someone (in this case Hyunjin) would have, and the weird guy looking at them from the shadows reminds me of how Kim Lip looked at herself in Girl Front, or how Hyunjin and Choerry communicated with the mirror/map in the same MV (which is located in LA "coincindentally"). The shadow guy could very well represent BBC, and I'll take that interpretation any day.
Captions for one of Yeojin's teaser photos said something along the lines that she's actually a bear cursed as a frog
wow this is deep, love thissss
8:32 i read somewhere that the satellite formation could represent Loossemble(5 facing light) and ARTMS(5 in the shadows) with 2 just outside of screen(Chuuves)
10:03 also read somewhere the kinda creepy figure could be Jaden Jeong or anyone who tried to absorb the members before their wake
14:52 ever wondered why it’s Vivi manning the ship? it’s bcs she’s a Robot. it seems like she could access the control panels out of nowhere
About Jaden, I don't know what the Ssemble girls' opinion of him is, but considering he signed with the other 5, chances are some might've had better relations with him than others. People are different, and they appreciate different business partners. Just because Heejin, Kim Lip, Jinsoul, Choerry and Haseul like working with him, doesn't mean Hyeju or other girls do. Specifically yyxy members, I think they had the worst experience with Jaden.
Anyway, I don't think the shadow guy is Jaden, but it could very well be BBCs CEO or a CEO of another company (cough, Universal Music Japan, cough), heck they even referenced the Donut guy.
Edit: I saw another comment about the shadow guy being Jaden, but not in a negative way, as in, referencing future collabs with artms. In that case it could be him, as this person mentioned the hairstyle too.
I don't know what to think anymore. 🤡
@@Miraiana honestly this is a very solid take and very plausible; we did hear many negative rumours about him back then, and while they may be rumours, it doesn't mean that none weren't true.
although, yes i would like to be optimistic about jaden being the shadow person ^^
Just a mini reminder that ViVi was already a "CYBORG" after "Love&Live" in my POV...
(Android meant full robot, but she seem transferred after that)
Besides,there were also a cryo. pod for her in the cabin...
One thing I just noticed, when you see Vivi in front of her captain's panel in the spaceship, the CORE ANALYSIS - DRIVE STATUS graphic is two pentagonal cylinders, ie: two 5 sided structures. ARTMS and Loossemble are two 5 member groups. I wonder... 🥰
Ok, i'm an idiot and my brain was reaching for what I desired 😳they are HEXAGONAL cores, so 6 sides each. I mean it still makes 12, but please forget this comment...
Ooop. Imagine that do a collab later on omg
17:04 eyes are watering. What?! totally missed that detail. I love the reference! I've always loved the intro, so this is really soothing the nostalgia.
In the mv, in some scenes we can see how they are searching for their friends because in their teaser "searching for their friends" (the rest of LOONA) they showed all the spots where the members of LOOSSEMBLE are looking at the sky.
In the minute 3:50 Gowon and Hyeju are watching the sky, 3:51 Hyunjin is looking the sky and at 8:30 Hyeju and Yeojin are also watching the sky.
I'm crying at the OEC posters in the Hyeju photo omggg
Hyeju’s shirt already having a meaning and me glossing over it just proofs how starved we were of lore 😭
i couldn't really tell what animal it was but the stuffed animal on yeojin's skirt could be referencing how she changed her representative animal to a bear
The Audition part is reminiscent of love forever, MV by YYXY.
Omg for a second I didn't know what you're talking about cause I'm used to it being written as "love4eva by yyxy"
The team did a good job on this debut, nice title song choice, nice choreo, nice visuals and aligning with the original loona storylines
I would've never analyzed that shot of Earth at the end.
Since 1/3 had the ballet
yyxy had the hip/hop
With oec being offscreen yet probably a mixture of both dance styles
Maybe we have simultaneous timelines/different pov memories going on in the dreamland cuz of where the members comes from
omg yes this is perfect tbh !!!!!!
i got a huge thelma and louise vibe for the part with the ladies in the car as well
Yassss same
And many of us exactly think the same. I mean two ladies in a car, holding hands. It looks really similar to that scene with Thelma and Louise. And the meaning behind that would also be interesting.
I got the Flashdance vibes from the audition part. A film about living out the dreams
A couple of interesting thing is on the posters there's a green on for Haseul and the pink head phones for Heejin. Also the sticker patterns on Gowon is reminiscent of Heejin's stickers in Why, Not.
They played an audio clip during the showcase which some people allege is the convo Gowon and Hyeju are having while on the steps outside 🥹 I was at the show but didn’t connect that clip with the MV I just thought the convo was really cute 😭
I saw footage! They say is the convo bc it's immediately after the auntie scene and makes sense. It's also GoWon and Hyeju's voices, apparently. This is the subtitled dialogue:
- Hey look, remember?
- Of course. Still beautiful.
- That's where we were.
- Are we okay now?
- Yes, because we're together.
- Happy to be together.
- Do you think it's even more beautiful place that we're going?
- You'll love it. Everyone is waiting, so let's go.
- Let's go.
And the spaceship footage rolls
@@reismaur yesss omg thank you for posting it! 🩵
Great video as always. A minor thing but at the ship scene when Vivi turns around to greet Hyunjin her earring piece sort of looks like antlers to me
oh btw, all members have butterflies on their outfits in the dream concept part. Gowon's is on her cowboy boots and Hyeju's is the lace part of her hard rock shirt :D
the LOONA members are extremely special. I cannot begin to exaggerate and even explain how much the members cherish and love one another. This just shows the efforts- the struggle to fight against the one common foe.
Although LOONA are split up into different agencies and projects, we can safely assume that all members are ensuring to take their struggle story and incorporating it into the lore (it’s just so obvious at this point). They are going to reunite once again, with the lore progressing more and more over time. OT12 for the Win!! And thank you Eric for making this video
Yeojin's little stuffed bear on her skirt is because she's officially no longer a frog, she's a bear. And 2021-7 would also make sense on HyunJin's pod, because that's Loona's first music show win as 12 members.
oh wait you're so right, I love this award show date theory sm !!!
i think all of this is somehow connected to FLIP THAT.
the planet being flipped, the telescope scene, the idea of an alternate course of events, they watching a reminiscent of WhyNot on a TV (another video that plays with the idea of traveling tru time).
vivi and hyunjin are such a good actriz
The old ladies at the start actually said "oh this debut is gonna end" at the start 😊
The old ladies in the beginning said "stan loossemble and odd eye circle"
I knew hyeju's shirt had some connection to lore😭💖
Yeojin said in fabb(?) that she changed her representative animal to a bear
Nice video! But there are some things I noticed in the mv too. The first one is in the part where they are in the car, in the final fifteen seconds before they disappear, they all reminded me a lot of their teaser from the Origin album. Especially Gowon. The second thing is in the room where the capsules are, it reminded me a lot of the BBC practice room..., with a glass wall of several doors in the background. And the third thing is before Hyunjin meets Vivi, she passes through a hallway, stops and looks at the camera, while she is in the dark, this is a reference to Hyeju in the Cinema Theory teaser.
2:52 *bear. i think yeojin's representative animal has been confirmed as a bear on several occasions recently
as she shoulddd
That hyeju shirt is just about loona, heaven and hell at the same time whilst making memories
As a nerd I knew you count the frames Cuz of the ending I knew it'll be the longest cuz I feel since inception this maybe the longest lore MV we got outside of intro/teasers....
I love how our brains work, and I love how we are going to get to add to the lore we had from the beginning instead of a retcon... It's a reboot...
Around you 10 minute version is the longest lore MV
@@sofija642 your so right i never really watched the 10min version cuz well thats when the lil webseries was coming out as well
Africa is believed to be where the Garden of Eden is. So them taking off from Africa is taking off from the garden of Eden
ooh wait this is kind of a great noddd
Hi Hidye I wanted to say thank you for having close captions in your videos. As a non American viewer it really helps me understand
I think the man in the dark who sees them while he runs is Jaden Jeong, because of his haircut he always styles his hair like that, if it's him it would be good news, right?
OK so I'm not the only one that thought this! He never made an appearance before so why now raises a few questions, especially not it the group mv for the group he isn't managing. But jaden watching would be cool. I also think of Kim lip watching herself in girl front, so maybe a member stand in (there is the males play members for storyline theory)
@@BenjiMac.it could be Yves tho. Like in the vivi's solo mv. And right after that escene, the members are in a skate park!
I'm conflicted, because if it's a good thing, (like Kim Lip in GF) I'd be happy, coz then we know they're referencing future collabs with Artms.
But if the shadow guy is a "bad guy", then I hope it's not Jaden, but one of the CEOs...
@@Miraiana if it is a bad guy I can't see it being jaden.
What if it’s yves? Remember when vivid memories were skewed and yves was a guy? Maybe it’s like this.
11:55 The stuffed toy on yeojin skirt seems looks like a teddy bear...
As far as I remember, Teddy bear was meant to be Yeojin's animal but BBC change to frog before debut...
(Probably the debut song match "The Frog Prince" theme so they forced her to change...)
5:05 my fave reference ❤️💙💜
when i tell you i bursted laughing when i first saw the donuts shirt LMFAOOO WE LOVE BBC SHADE
in addition to the wonderful theory comments aside this, i would love to note that with you pointing out the possible settings this mv is in the loonaverse, the 3 judges in the auditions are wearing suits. the only other ppl wearing suits currently are oec and i feel that this does solidify the setting of them moving to earth, from eden !
okay while streaming the mv again i noticed that the shirt has a black mother duck and a regular yellow duck chick. tell me I'm looking too much into this if i really am but... black aquatic birds remind me quite a lot of the ugly duckling story. but we actually find out that said duckling was actually a cygnet - a baby SWAN ! which is none other than yves' animal. it also helps that in her mv video where she golf putts all the animal toys, her animal is represented by a cygnet too - which, putting both themes together, adds to the song's message of becoming "new."
not to mention, the message of this shirt seems to also be a nod to the chaotic story of loona's history and its current state of affairs. i feel that the duckling might be an allusion to chuu also being outside of this group along with yves, just here in visual rep as to show their support in spirit.
It's great still having you around!
All the girls have butterflies in their looks. Not just loona 1/3. Go Won has them on her boots and the lace part on Hyeju’s top is a butterfly.
that grandma wearing beret's side grin kinda looks like gowon ❤
7:15 little note about the audition scene: typically with dance auditions, you’ll first audition in a group and then be called back individually if the judges want to see more of you before making a decision.
in this case it would make sense that hyunjin was called back, because she’s the leader of loossemble and this audition in the video might’ve been a factor in her being chosen as the captain of loossemble in-universe.
just a neat extra detail :)
on the destination while they are in the ship, it has loona’s debut date! maybe instead of going to earth to find them they are in fact going back in time to loonas debut to restart everything
okay wait this actually blows my mind, that's such a good observation
Just stating the obvious, but Vivi being the only one awake (indicating she doesn't need sleep?) and controlling the ship is probably cause she's an android.
Oh yes!! :-))
it's still weird seeing as there is a capsule for her that is meant for the other human members, but yes this would be an excellent nod
maybe some plot in the near future is about her becoming human@@balaynganiyebe
@@dnxrtms I would actually love to see it, mostly because singling out the only non-KR member of the group as a different race entirely has... well, quite the implication. Not to mention how she has almost always been singled out in other ways, e.g. line distributions & center time
@@balaynganiyebe Exactly. I feel like that plot line worked well bc the loona verse mirrors our reality. At first it was cool to introduce viví as different bc she was but now that she has mastered korean/korean culture they should utilize that plot point. it’s an interesting idea what it means to be an android nowadays and why it might not be what everyone wants- maybe viví wants to be human or maybe she needs to be. the scope could be grander than what i am imagining , there’s so much potential
Let’s not forget that the old ladies are reminiscent of the movie Thelma $ Louise… which hits different knowing what Loona went through to escape BBC.
The older women holding hands before driving is also a reference to the film Thelma and Louise.
I want to say, and another video said as well, the 2 ladies at the beginning are very reminiscent to the American film Thelma and Louise which explores women breaking the mold.
Didn’t realise this was already uploaded and just commented a load on the loosemble reaction video 😂
8:32 theres 12 panels, 2 in the dark, 3 together (oec) and then on the other side theres 5 (loossemble)
2+3+5=10
i failed math@@xannymun
@@iicookieii6641 a mood
Could be wrong but I think the stuffed animal in Yeojin’s outfit is her new representative animal in the Loona lore, a bear.
The coordinates is actually London which was the first leg of the ARTMS European Tour since there isn't a Longitude you put 0 (51 degrees N and 0 degrees W is London). I tried doing the same thing as you did but it didn't give any coordinates.
9:13 I feel you
15:26 oh i didn't notice that MODE: 12/7 could be the OEC comeback date
I personally have a theory that the white figure who chases the girls in ARTMS' "Birth" is somewhat of a mother figure. the way they fall as babies and she grows them like obedient flowers I think ties into "Flower Rhythm" as well! and they seem to realize she indeed is not a true mother or guardian, and are trying to escape her, however she comes to collect them and bring them back. It also reminds me of how the girls in YYXY's "Love4Eva" were kept locked with the blond lady who raised them to be perfect, and how they wish to run away and escape her, as well!
I forgot to mention I bring this up because of HyeJu's shirt lol 😅
I thought Vivi said ‘wasup’
Now I'm just imagining ViVi going "wasup" and dapping HyunJin up...
6:12 lol. the shade💀
Wait, is the donut a reference to the legal battle with the company of the same name?
wait i just got that lmfao??
I'm not going to spoil your concert, but you will find out the conversation the older version of HyeJu and GoWon had there.
You missed the two ladies at the beginning. The ladies are a reference to an old movie about two ladies who become free against the norms
It has nothing to do with the members being older
I think the clock in the car is amount of members
12:00:00 (LOONA 12)
↓
05:00:00 (Loossemble 5)
↓
00:00:12 (OT12)
They are looking for their friends. So I believe that we can see OT12 in the future😢❤
At the end of "Flip That" video, it reads "Everything flipped,....."
Maybe that's why the Earth they're travelling to is flipped. Idk.
The moaning at 13:12 caught me off guard 😂
I love this kind of video ♡
Also 12 satellites on the roof but two are not in the light.
Just me that thinks the space ship sounds like a train??? We've seen trains before too.
Notice how Vivi is the only one not on the polaroid ? I think she kept it with her so she wouldnt miss the members when they were asleep 😭
Could the Man in the dark be one from 'Kiss Later' ?
I could be wrong but the curved hallway 4:17 that yeojin, gowon, and hyeju walked in looked a lot like the hallway from Ptt !
ooh actually that's a great observation, I also didn't think of it as I mostly remember OEC & Yves being the ones staying there the most
Im sorry im a stupid orbit. Can someone explain the donuts? Iykyk but i dont 😭
i think it’s referencing the donut lawsuit. when Loona was still with bbc they made a contract with a company called donut for the girls to promote their app but bbc never followed through and so donut sued bbc. it was the start of bbc going bankrupt iirc
@@charley6554 oooooh ok! Thank you so much!
Also that's the only judge who didn't clap
i've been struggling to figure out why hyunjin was the only member to have 2 outfits for the dream ver concept.
i mean sure vivi has photos of her with/without pink hat but hyunjin's two looks are so completely different.. why tho
if they changed their minds mid shoot and decided to go for the denim look that ended up in the mv, why not just leave out images of the other look altogether? why use those for her individual cover and other album inclusions? did no one at any point find it a bit odd to include a whole second look for just one member and not the other four?
i'm not concerned about the matter of being fair, i'm sure it's got nothing to do with that - i just couldn't quite wrap my mind around this, why this seemingly intentional decision of keeping two hyunjin outfits?
the second look has no butterfly motifs tho, only stars and teddy bears (which could relate to yeojin's plushie?)
I think there are only two in the pods..... Yves and Chuu.....
i wonder if this is the girls going back and undoing the BBC crap and making a better timeline for Loona!! lol not that far fetched!
Also, you didn't mention that in the cryo-pod scene, two of them are different and have a white panel at the foot of the pod, numbers 9 (Yves) and 10 (Chuu). Interesting... 🤭🫠
I believe that's just the reflection of the lights in the ceiling but you never really know with loona mvs...
@@Hidye1 It could be, but there are a lot of ceiling lights and they are as evenly spaced as the pods themselves, so i'm not sure I think there would only be bright reflections on only those two pods... anyway, it's all wonderfully epic.