Doctor Who: Reviewing the "Rogue" Episode
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- Join me as we dive deep into the regency episode of Doctor Who - Rogue. In this review, we'll break down the episode's most thrilling moments, analyze character arcs. Whether you're a die-hard Whovian or a casual viewer, there's something here for everyone. We'll explore how Rogue ties into the rich tapestry of the Doctor Who Season 1.
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Bear in mind these are just my first impressions and my opinion could change by the time I get to reviewing the full season overall.
What did you think of this episode?
I did not like this episode. Because I was generally disinterested in the plot, it was confusing, I don't have a problem with a Doctor love story because that happens but the love story came out of nowhere, was unnecessary, went way to fast, and was contradictory. Didn't we establish in Legend of The Sea Devils that the Doctor decided not to form any more romantic attachments because she's felt too much heartbreak? Also the fight scene was horribly choreographed. Also how did Rogue get Ruby out of the death triangle? It is the first episode this season I would describe as "bad." I hope neither of the last two don't sink to this one's level.
However I have no idea what you mean by the whole crossover tangent. IDK how you got to that conclusion.
@@philosotree5876
Rogue gets Ruby out because it was only fitted for 6, he got in which took it over capacity so then he could push her out the same moment for it to turn on again.
The reason of the 14th doctor's bi-regeneration was to heal, and 15 is not as burdened as the doctor's before - thus may be more open to love again. The doctor is still taken aback at the proposal and the kiss is instigated by Rogue which I found fitting.
@@yoknom Good point, tho I still think it was too fast.
@@philosotree5876 Is it really too fast, if it's just Rogue's distraction to steal the send button from the doctor?
@@yoknom what do you mean?
I loved the relationship between River and the Doctor and I don’t mind him having another dropping in and out of each others lives type relationship.
I don't think I explained that well enough in this video if I am honest, maybe need to do a video on river at some point:) , it was just the romantic, flirting side I didn't love, I do like river and I like river and the doctors episodes but not so much the whole basically left with no choice but to "love" one another when it is very clear they are not "in love" with one another.
Can I just say I think that this is the best the Doctor has ever looked? The velvet jacket, the whole look, I wouldn't be mad if this was the main outfit (even though 15 seems to switch every episode). I get it won't ever be as iconic as Tennant's suit and sand shoes, or some of the other main stay outfits, but damn the fit is fire
Loooks fantastic in this episode! Costume department done great!
I love period pieces, so I was definitely the target audience for this episode.
As far as the love component, you need to remember that this is a doctor that has healed himself. He doesn’t have the emotional damage that the previous doctors were dealing with
I do get that, but you gotta admit it was all a bit rushed and fast for the "love" side of things.. Had it been part of the series where rogue and the doctor got to know each other and then they kissed in this episode and the doctor lost rogue.. I'd probably have been okay with that but it just seemed odd/rushed tbh, it's a lot for a dedicated fan of the show to deal with since we have been so used to the doctor being the same way for so many years.. This is a big big step.
@@TardisTalks for that, they would have needed more shooting time with Ncuti, which they didn't have, sadly. Because Ncuti was still shooting on sex education at the time they started filming this season
Great episode, 2nd best 8.7/10
To me, this was not a filler episode, it's a setup for future storylines.
But first: I think the amount of crying is just right. I think it shows how important "saving lives" is to the Doctor, which so far he always held back because of his issues.
Rogue was another "doctor coded" character after Ricky in Dot and Bubble, and he gets set up as a reoccurring character.
Then it plants another hint of the boss mentioned by The Meep.
It also has another moment of "Ruby dies", which is a theme in some episodes now.
You already mentioned the Susan Twist bit, what's maybe more significant is, that again she is 'mother'-like.
-> she's the nurse to the space babies, the 'caring' ambulance interface, the mother in Dot and Bubble, and now again described as someone's mother
If you argue like you do, then how many other episodes were also filler so far? Boom? 73 Yards? Space Babies?
I loved it, some of it reminded me of Wild Blue Yonder where the Doctor didn't know which Donna was the right one and nearly left the real Donna to die on the Space Ship. I loved River Song so if we had a story arc involving Rogue I'd love it! I hope he and The Doctor get together one day.
I thought it was smart to couch the declaration of love, the proposal and the rejection as part of the cosplay, but sorta not. I don't think it was an immediate LOVE, but a real connection that was part of the drama of the overall theme of the episode.
1813 Regency aristocracy was white, any other skin colour to be seen, belonged to servants. Also, for two men to be seen kissing, they'd be in jail, as it was illegal.
Just for once in this season, we will get an episode purely based on Sci-fi, one where the Dr has to use his intellect, and not one where the Dr either stands and cries, or has a song and dance.
That’s simply not true
the Duchess of Sussex is not actually the first woman of colour to have been part of the British upper classes. Dangerous Freedom, the latest novel by Trinidadian author Lawrence Scott, tells the story of the real historical figure Elizabeth Dido Belle, the mixed-race daughter of enslaved woman Maria Belle and Captain Sir John Lindsay. Born in 1761, she was taken in by her great-uncle, Lord Chief Justice William Murray, first Earl of Mansfield, and raised amid the lavish setting of Kenwood House in Hampstead, London, alongside her cousin Elizabeth. It was a rare arrangement, most likely unique, and today she is considered to be Britain's first black aristocrat.
On top of what Cashel wrote, they only kissed when all the Humans had already left the room. Also, Rogue didn't know about that era, so it wouldn't have made a difference for how it played out either way.
I don't think this was a bad episode but it wasn't a for me episode.
I am not a fan of period dramas so have never seen things like Bridgerton. There were moments I liked in the episode but the whole thing felt off to me. I can't put my finger on what it is but it just didn't feel right.
The set up for romance with Rogue didn't feel right. It needed more time however the main thing I love about the kiss is the anti-woke brigade will be going out of their tiny minds over it 😂
If this is something like a tv show within a tv show then it MIGHT make more sense.
Yet again the Doctor doesn't save the day someone else does it just overall feels off.
Oh and I saw nothing that changes the Doctors life unless Rogue is the one who waits because he is going to be waiting a long long time as the Doctor made it clear he wasn't going to look for him too Ruby.
Yeah overall not one I will be wanting to rewatch more than once (and then it will be to see if I missed much having watched at midnight totally shattered).
Bottom of the list for me in the series so far which is a shame I was really hopeful with the way the episodes had been going.
Yeah I hope when I rewatch it will change my perception on the episode but I do agree with you to be honest 😊
Incredible episode.
I love how RTD is pushing the envelope and making the snivelling 'anti-woke' types soil themselves.
More of this sort of thing please!!!
Theyve all been rubbish except this one thank god keep it going 🎉
Right. So. Didn't like this one.
Firstly, the relationship between Rogue and the Doctor was... stupid. I'm not a fan of the Doctor being in (romantic) relationships in general (with the possible exception of River Song), but this one was even worse. It was just so forced. Like.. my guy, you've known him for half an hour. Stop.
The modern music (besides maybe _Can't Get You Out of My Head_ which I thought was kind of fun, even if a little cringy) just really took me out of it and I thought was completely unnecessary and just a bad creative decision.
The bird 'aliens', despite one or two of them looking (in my opinion) pretty good, were lazy. I'm bored of RTD (and just DW in general, really) just using animals and calling them aliens. The Judoon, The Catkind, Leandro, The Lupari, etc. etc. It's boring, and it's lazy. Make some bloody aliens, for god's sake. Honestly, I don't think we even really needed to see aliens anyway - it would've been much more ominous and threatening to just see them change from looking like one person to another - like the Family of Blood.
Why didn't Ruby try to blend in? Not even a little bit? Sure, she's wearing time-appropriate clothing, but besides that, she sticks out like a sore thumb. She should've at least tried to blend in, then maybe slipped up, rather than just.. be a 21st Century northern girl. I'm not saying she should've put on an accent or anything, but.. you know what I'm saying.
Too many Bridgerton references. Just stop. One was kind of funny, maybe. Well.. not really, but I get the appeal to people who watch the show. But it's like with the modern music; references to modern culture - especially from characters other than Ruby - were weird and, frankly, off-putting. The Bond reference was kind of fun, but still felt misplaced. Bridgerton was mentioned twice in the opening ten minutes. Too much.
Wasn't a fan of all the mentions of cosplaying. I'd get it as a reference from Ruby as a 21st Century human. Somewhat acceptable from the Doctor, but less so. But something just feels wrong with 'alien' birds mentioning cosplaying. It just felt off to me.
Also, I can't be the only one thinking that Ruby seems to be becoming a little like Clara2.0 in some ways..? Hear me out - the Doctor thinks she's dead, so condemns the Chuldur to 600 years of suffering. This is so extreme for the Doctor. So extreme. It gives me Hell Bent vibes. That's not a good thing.
Ruby's fight scene felt so stiffly choreographed and totally out of place. And silly. There's not really much more to say about it than that.
I love that Ncuti's Doctor cries. I think it's a really good message and shows how in touch with his emotions 15 really is. But the more you do it, the less impactful it gets. It's been every episode with the single exception of 73 Yards (I might be wrong there though). It's too much. It just stops mattering. The tears feel so undeserved here, anyway - again, he'd known him for no more than 30-35 minutes. Similarly, there have been too many companion fake-out deaths this season. If we include the 60th Specials, that's Donna in The Star Beast and Wild Blue Yonder and Ruby in Boom. She's also in mortal danger in The Devil's Chord. If the stakes are always ridiculously high but always get resolved, eventually there are no stakes. Eventually it's just predictable and boring. We're already dangerously close to that. Stop it.
Just a quick side-note - I didn't realise that the painting was of Susan Twist until they practically told us in the 'Next Time on Doctor Who' section. I get that plenty of people will notice before that, but really it just didn't look much like her, ultimately defeating the whole point of her being included.
Honestly, in terms of comparing it to Space Babies - which I thought was appallingly bad - I'm undecided. I found this one more enjoyable to watch than Space Babies - purely because it was just less.. I don't even know what.. maddeningly irritating? - but the narrative is just so much worse; there's barely any plot, and what little story there is doesn't make much sense. At least Space Babies had a proper storyline.
(Edit - Just so this isn't a complete downer, here are some of the things I liked about the episode:
> Some genuinely funny moments
> Rogue's reaction to stepping inside the TARDIS
> The episode looked stunning; the set was fantastic and the costumes were brilliant
> The short moment with Ruby stopping the Doctor and encouraging him to grieve - despite not being given the proper time and attention it should have received (and being stupid in the first place), it was nice to see her taking that moment to comfort him
> I thought the way that Ruby casually took a glass of wine from the servant as she walked past was excellent)
I actually get your point of view. I will give the romantic plot something. Its seems more balanced than rose but i feel like its another riversong but worse
"But the more you do it, the less impactful it gets."
Not for me. For me, it hits more when the characters show their emotions. The other doctors showed that in other ways, some worked better for me and others worked not as good for me. I guess that's different for everyone. I love, that Ncuti cries with me in these moments, because yes, I had tears in my eyes in those situations as well. I can see, that it might not be as enjoyable for people who don't cry, but please don't say that's a bad thing or that it gets less impactful on a factual level. It's all personal preference.
Personally, I did not buy into the attraction between the Doctor and Rogue. I know it was written to tell me they were attracted to each other but I did not believe the chemistry as written, especially how it was rushed through in a single 45 minute episode. It felt forced. Regarding the Doctor crying all the time...yes, my kids and I discussed that too. Crying is absolutely fine but not every episode. The audience should be granted the gift of crying for the main character but this latest series takes that emotional responsibility away from the audience. The tears have to be earned and built up to.
There really aren't enough episodes in this season and the creative team is trying to cram far too much into each episode. I have only moderately enjoyed the season so far.
100% agree.
Please name a screwdriver that was worse?
Well, I’m not a fan of the drink…
@@paparazzo99 I bet more than 2.11 million were served on Saturday night though lol
@juliadarch9278 Probably, and that’s perfectly fine. I wouldn’t never yuck their yum just because I don’t like vodka.
If you’d like a less snarky answer, I loved Jody but I’m also not a fan of her screwdriver.
Jackson Lake's screwdriver was less functional,but still looked better.
Personally I hated Capaldi's Sonic Shades
Does Colin's Sonic Lance, count?