Hands On With a Smart Gun That Actually Works
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- It's taken more than a decade, but startup Biofire has created a Smart Gun that actually works. The gun uses fingerprints and facial recognition to register a primary user and hopefully prevent children and teens from picking up and accidentally discharging the weapon.
Ashlee Vance visited Biofire's headquarters to test the Smart Gun out and talk with founder Kai Kloepfer about the complicated questions surrounding its creation - like, will anyone buy one?
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I can see this working for prison guards and security that might have their handguns grabbed and being readily used against them, but for concealed carry for civilians I see more disadvantages than advantages over a purely mechanic firearm.
@@Mutation666
That might not be their market, but it is a valid use case. Even more valid, in my opinion, than a homeowner wanting to leave a gun lying around.
@@notahotshot in this case leaving a gun laying around would be perfectly safe and ideal storage would be unlocked concealment
You obviously don’t have any kids or think a child can fire a fire arm
@@kennethpaige-vt2jw if you read my comment above you will see that was talking about concealed carry, not home defense. The gun looks too big to carry anyway.
I can see the case for someone with small kids in the house but early firearm safety goes a long way for older kids and teens.
@@VeritasOmniaVincit176 I agree with you but wonder how long it would take to fire the gun in an emergency. If someone is in your face and you need to defend yourself very quick, will you be able to do it with this thing in time to save your life or will it take too long and you'll be shot dead before you're able to shoot back? I don't see this being very popular but I can see it being pushed by the lefts gun grabbers.
Imagine in the future, criminals need to hack a gun before using it 😂
Imagine in the future DAs actually charge criminals and send them to prison. There's a future no one thinks will come to pass.
in the future the black market is gonna have jailbroken guns like they do jailbroken iPhones
Imagine if u just ate some bbq and your fingers dirty
@@gocrazymike9935oh you better wash your hands
What future 10000 years from now ???? Believe there will still be enough regular guns to use for centuries to come
So, if you're an officer wearing a tactical/riot helmet with a face mask/shield and tac gloves, this will fail to work correct?
Correct.
ian from forgotten weapons has already said that this firearm is not meant for the police.
@@mrzac115 Think of this, if you're a police officer and someone grabs your weapon and tries to use it against you.
@JoseAntonio-yc3fi I think it's made for prison guards/security detail.
Incorrect. The facial recognition uses infrared 3D tech which can scan your face through coverings.
I wouldn’t rely on this for regular carry out in public. As far as at home, I can see having this readily available as a safer option. But in the event you need it and it malfunctions, you better be able to get to your safe pretty quickly!
You can get an instant access safe for about $100 and a biometric one for $200. The safes are proven tech and so are the handguns.
@@alexh4436 how are the handguns proven tech when they haven’t even hit the market yet or been torture tested?
You think the manufacturers haven't considered reliability when they designed this gun?
@@killer3000ad Probably about as much as the Ford Motor Company did with the Pinto.
@@killer3000ad no. They just want to get the product out to appease the gun control drones.
love the separation between "engineering" and "policy" haha.
one is words and fantasy.
the other is practical and physically possible.
Given the fact my iPhone doesn’t recognize my face at least 60% of the time, I’ll pass.
The facial recognition, I’m my experience, only works in optimal settings.
-enough lighting
-facing the screen directly
-nothing on my face
-no hat
Etc
Same thing with finger print. Had to do that several times to unlock my phone
Buy a 1911 in 1911 you can still use it in 2023. Buy a phone in 2019 no longer works in 2023, what are the odds of this still "Smartgun" working in five years yet alone in 100 years?
@@simonmaguire5250 thank you for your comment. you added a lot of value here. seriously.
@@y.a.salimu5601 who's that in your picture
In my personal completely uneducated opinion I think the main difference is that the gun has a dedicated fingerprint scanner. With the smartphone it’s probably an even smaller device and is competing with all the technology around it. With the smart gun it’s only electric purpose is fingerprints and face recognition. I’m sure they won’t release it until both are reliable seeing it’s been in design for a decade.
@@okay5583 computer laptops also have dedicated fingerprint sensors, and they still fail.
What happens when "they" disable your smart gun?
It does not seem to have that ability.... yhat we know of.
The gun has no wireless capability. It can only communicate through a USB port.
If biofire is lying about it, there are hundreds of DEFCON nerds that can't wait to tear the gun apart when it comes out.
I would love to see this get tested by some gun youtubers
yan from forgotten weapons tested it
@@brasileiroloko5375 He was under an NDA where he can only say what the company tells him to.
The company will not allow an independent review.
I bought one but won't be available until next year. Once I get it, I'll post it on you tube.
Black Rambo is about to put out a video on it. That's how I found this video.
ITs bad enough with regular firearms when you get FTFs and FTEs now you add a computer and two censors that need to work. Not for me.
The two sensors are a redundancy. Long story short, if there's a problem with the fingerprint sensor, that's why the facecam is in.
That's why you dont see Law enforcement or military using them. Member they had the glocks before any civis did?
"I have shot guns before but I am far from a gun enthusiast. In many ways I am Biofire's target audience." Probably the worst sort of person to have a gun like this. A person wants a gun for self defence, then they need to practice, practice, practice. A weapon that is more complicated and therefore more prone to failure should not be the weapon of choice for anyone who says that they are "far from a gun enthusiast."
How do you return the gun for service and disassembly if the technician can't test or take apart the gun bc the tech is not a registered user ?
It works, unless it doesn't work, like all tech.
Ryan McBeth is a cybersecurity guy and army vet and he also got to go out and make a video about this smart gun, he was impressed and talks alot about its functioning and reliability. Ian of Forgotten Weapons also did a video and it seems like the Smart part is pretty solid and reliable, the mechanical Gun part is still needing some love and Ian's video showed some trouble cycling but he was using a prototype, they still have a year before the launch edition pistols go out and 6 months after that is when the main production sales are forecast
You realize that your statement also applies to traditional firearms, right?
@@BrowncoatGofAZ mechanical failures are far less common than electrical and software failures.
@@Gallagher068 Appeal to Authority Fallacy.
The whole system relies on a battery. The gun might work well for a few years, but as that battery gets old the gun will be unpredictable.
So just replace the battery every year. You already have to maintain the mechanics of a regular firearm.
@@BrowncoatGofAZ That makes it sound even less appealing. I'll pass.
@BrowncoatGofAZ how about you buy him a battery r3tard
Battery technology is constantly improving and that includes battery life. The gun will need to be serviced regardless so you simply check the battery as part of the service. The whole point of this gun is home defence so battery usage would be minimal anyway. Even if the battery only lasts 10 years you’d simply replace it during the service at which point there would likely be a better battery that lasts 15 or 20 years. So it’s not a big deal
@@RR11333 I think you're being a little dramatic
This guy unironically gives me hope for our country. A hard work to create a simple solution to a real problem. Thank you Kai
This guy is freaking awesome...he is a true nerd 🤓 the official finger to glasses was placed in affect nice job bud 👍 👏
Also like to know in detail about the internal safety mechanisms. Is there a physical block btwn striker & primer? Explain how it’s Drop safe? How Trigger safety works internally? What if the battery dies? Given p320 revelations, I need more detailed info on how the internal safeties work.
Just a thought when using in the military what if you allow a Unit/Team be able to group their weapons to work between them like having all the unit guns have multiple IDs of the Team members
My iPhone 14 can’t even recognize my face half the time after all the years of innovation. This thing being a first gen gun of this type, pfffff, could you imagine a life or death situation and your gun isn’t recognizing your face 😂
That’s just you. I’ve had zero problems with mine
I’m still using my iPhone 10 and it recognises my face without issue even with glasses on in the dark
Zero problems with any face ID iphone I've used. Also, this has 2 forms of identification, and only requires 1 form to unlock the gun. If you have that much trouble with the face ID, then it will unlock with the finger print. It's not really an issue.
I worry about hidden design "features" like the ability of it to be remotely disabled (by someone other than the owner, if you know what I mean...).
the gun itself has no internet. it must be placed in the dock to even talk to the net. so if your out and about or its locked in a safe you have nothing to worry about.
@@mrzac115 ...but when you put it in the dock to recharge it, there is plenty to worry about. The ability to remotely disable guns is the wet dream and inevitable goal of big brother and the anti-gun folks.
@@desmobob900sssp you could also just not buy it? im lost why you care if you are not going to buy it? i would like to see this technology get better and become more mainstream. and for that reason i put a down payment on one. and will be buying one. im putting money towards the change that i want to see instead of just talking about it. if it does not work out oh well. but at least im trying to do something to prevent more school shootings by kids that get guns that are just laying around. and too come back to the hacking concern, im almost positive that more then likely you are over thinking the the security holes that this thing may or may not have. I would suggest that you wait until the product actually comes out before you make a baseless assumption on something without any evidence. But the more support for these companies that are trying to make better weapons, like for example BioFire here who's making a smart gun, is it better they're going to get. Just like any technology they have growing pains. They have problems. I mean people still wanted to keep their horses back then when automobiles were just starting to become a thing. They thought the automobile was pointless. And now we use them every single day. But it took years for them to get to that point. So we have to stop with the whole "No sMaRt gUNs ever!" talk. It is not going to help us come up with better solutions on how to keep people safe from firearms when they're in the hands of people who do not need to have them.
@mrzac115 Please, write another essay..
(Sarcasm)
As long as this isn't forced on the rest of society, buy whatever you want. 3D printing has let the cat out of the bag. Anyone who wants a firearm that has a PC and a 3D printer can make one.
I am curious about how the facial recognition would work with Identical twins down to two people who look similar?
There's probably a little wiggle room involved when it scans your face. Unless it uses the same tech that Apple does for theirs, where the gun scans your face with 10000+ infrared laser dots, creating a near perfect model of your face.
Love the idea- I use Vaultek biometric safes for safe storage. But- 2 concerns immediately pop up. 1- There’s no forward rail for a Tact Light (pistol flashlight). That’s crucial to me as large predators at night are my primary concern in the Rockies. Laser is great but, still one can’t aim at, let alone hit, what they can’t see in darkness. 2- I have serious questions about the reliability, especially over torture time, of the computer components in the pistol. An iPhone or laptop or drone or camera or Xbox etc is prone to mechanical failures in either its hardware or software. And those failures can arise out of the blue. One day it works, the next it doesn’t. So that concerns me! Additionally 3 Qs I HAVE- 1- Is it MOS capable? Can one have a smith slide cut to make it optics ready? Can one mount an RMR or other miniaturized reflex sight on it? 2- what caliber is it chambered in? Or what calibers is it offered in? 3- Is there a holster that accommodates its unique shape? It’s already extremely difficult to find a holster for a G19 with the GTL21 attached to the forward rail. I’d imagine this model would be even more difficult or near impossible to find a holster for unless the company has made one for it. Still I applaud Biofire & will probably get one, once I feel my concerns & questions have been addressed… which may be some ways off. But still, Biofire? phenomenal job advancing the tech.
I don't love the idea. Imagine the government could just remotely shut them down.
I will stick with my sigs and Glocks
Everyday, we stray closer to Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriot’s ID-tagged guns
As long as we can co-exist (the traditional and smart gun owners), I think it would be a pretty cool reality. I like options
He’s 25 years old been working on it for 10 years claims this is to stop children and teens from getting their hands on guns yet he started making this gun when he was 15?
I'm looking forward to seeing the gun out in open market and see how well it sales. I might even get one for my home.😊😊
Just my personal opinion, but I don't think it'll sell well.
a lot of people seem to forget that this gun is ment to be used in a home defense situation. youre not going to war with this thing, youre shooting a home invader with this thing.
Buy a 1911 in 1911 you can still use it in 2023. Buy a phone in 2019 no longer works in 2023, what are the odds of this still "Smartgun" working in five years yet alone in 100 years?
@@simonmaguire5250 Zero % chance
@@mortrob8371 Big doubt on that, firmware and the fact that through the software of the device the company can probably revoke your use of said firearm.
This is a great novelty but ultimately useless.
@@TarlZaralkait’s OFFLINE.
@@simonmaguire5250 but can a small child or teen use the smart gun maliciously. No? That's why it was made.
What happens if the battery runs out and I need the gun to protect me and my family and it won’t work
You're meant to keep it plugged into the charging stand when not in use.
By its very purpose, a gun has to be 100% reliable. You only truly need it in life-or-death situations. A mechanical system has much less modes of failure. You're adding computers, software, machine learning models, biometric sensors, batteries that need charging. All of these are prone to failure, no go for any self-defense situation.
Yes, but do you use the brakes in your car?
@@AshleeVanceHelloWorld I love my ABS systems. Very reliable on both my sports bike and my car
@@AshleeVanceHelloWorld Abs systems fail, but have a proven track record of being more reliable than a kid that has no history in making firearms, there are millions of cars on the road that have working reliable brake systems,
@@lestagez
"A kid that has no history in making firearms."
Do you think he is doing it in a vacuum, with no support from others with knowledge and experience? He's not a kid playing with Legos. He's a trained, educated, engineer and gunsmith, who is working with other trained, educated engineers, and gunsmiths.
@@lestagez fair, but one must start somewhere, no? plus you get the benefit of all that previous work.
I already have tech that keeps anyone but me from using my guns. It is called a safe. I can open it in less than two seconds.
my smart phone still sucks at finger print recognition as well as facial recognition. I would never use such a thing that my safety strongly relies on.
Which phone is that?
After the US Military (Especially all Special Forces Units) adopt this, I'll consider it.
Or the security apparatus for politicians.
They're not the market.
Ian made a video on this.
Military will never adopt these types of weapons. It's uses will be for civilian use, and possibly law enforcement. The military doesn't need a weapon to confirm it users. They don't want that, and is has no advantage.
I understand your point though. Weapon systems need to be tested and proven first.
Why does the us military need a home defense bedside weapon? Or do you speak before thinking?
@@n0oo7 Project much?
he says he’s not here to advertise, but the only reason I’m here is because today I saw it on a billboard while driving. Lol.
Will there be a judge dredd version? Where it blows off your hand if you're not authorized.
Target markets:
Prison Guards
Parents of young children
To be safer，we need nanomachines.
😂😂😂😂 Until the government locks your gun
That would require the gun to be linked to the internet
All local controlled data like your phone, they would need physical access to it.
Or any of the onboard electronic components break off due to vibrations not limited to accidental bumps and falls.
Also introduce the possibility of a bad solder joint anywhere on the electronic board/PCB.
I’m sure this will be a booth at defcon next year. Hack a smart gun!
@@MajorisMons you know they have been successfully placing electronics on firearms for a very long time now right? There are a great many electronic equipped optics with a long history of reliability, even operating on rifles with much greater recoil than this handgun.
Biofire isn’t allowing any independent reviews of this thing. Ding ding 🛎 huge red flag 🚩!!
I'm glad criminals will never attack when the batteries are dead or it's malfunctioning. Too bad criminals, and cops, won't use it for 'reasons'.
I'm sure it can't be turned off if your social credit score lowers. 🙄
4:32 “Am I cool to try it?” *No ear protection* Skips to next scene where he learned his lesson lol.
What happens if you need to charge your gun? Knowing me... I'd forget.
DEFINITELY GETTING ME A FEW OF THESE
How often is gun violence a problem because some "wrong" person is pulling the trigger?
Very often, did you miss the part where they said more children died from guns than cars. If it wasn’t a problem the product wouldn’t exist
I love this. I’m attached to my Glock but I’ll support this.
As an automation engineer that works with electrical equipment and buggy software daily, I will pass on any and all smart guns. I can't and won't trust the dependability of a smart gun because I know how easily stuff like this can fail, whether it be from an electrical standpoint and a wire getting loose and shoet circuiting or electrical interference, or the software not being properly optimized or written to detect your fingerprint in a timely manner (if at all).
Hold on, my gun needs an update you cant rob me right now....
thats not how it works
How do I shoot with gloves? How do I share the gun? How does this work when seconds matter? If this was only a range gun maybe it works. Would never trust this for personal defense.
It's meant for home defense - you're not supposed to be carrying this thing around.
Bozo
what happens when the battery dies? will the firearm still shoot or not?
I'm sure it would last quite a while and have an indicator
@@starshot5172
Cold and hot climates play a huge part in a batteries longevity.
First - it's built for home defense. Take your usual carry, leave this one at home.
Second - You're supposed to leave it plugged into the charging stand.
Total recall vibes ..💯
What if it's raining out? Will it hold up after it gets wet?
The target is home defense. Basically bedside. Just get a dumb-fire one if you're carrying.
Man I respect your work but what if hackers are able to hack into it somehow and it ends up going off by it’s self?? Is that a possibility since the gun is mostly electronic? Correct me if I’m wrong please
The gun doesn’t appear to be wireless and requires being placed into the holster on the terminal so someone would need to physically hack the terminal which they can’t do if either the gun or both are in a safe
Can anyone confirm whether this could be software patched into being a full auto?
No but it does share all the same mechanical components as any other fire arm, so a little know how and it could be fully automatic
This need to be battle tested in all weathers and fight conditions, like dark, hot, cold plus its circuitry need to be verified as well that it cant be hacked or altered by EMP burst or something like that
Ain’t nobody payen 10k for no iPhone gun I’ll stick to my 500$ glocks 😂
Once we have a change of government in my country, I will definitely order one for myself.
Anyone that's in a life-or-death situation your body temperature rises with your adrenaline level and the more yo body temperature rise sweat forms and a lot of people palms start sweating whenever they're nervous scared or uneasy this brilliant idea but this will get a lot of people killed sadly
$1,500 and I can’t put a flashlight /laser??? Might as well buy a GLOCK
Been thought of this as a kid
0:17 look at the quality of construction on the trigger
You can see the printlines on the plastic as well, this is probably not the final product.
What situation is this intended to prevent?
Little timmy with a irresponsible parent picks up the gun and shoots
@@chillout8185 An irresponsible parent wouldn’t buy this device. It literally prevents nothing.
No diff look than a maxim 9..just more safe and a story to tell
Just like what M said, “Its not just a Gun, its more like a Personal Statement”
What about a EMP I would really like to know
Judge Dredd Lawgiver
Does it have internet access or Bluetooth?
Neither. The dock can be plugged into the Internet for updates but you can just as easily side load the updates and import them via USB. Biometric data stays on the firearm which is air gapped.
If it pairs my phone on Bluetooth, then it recognizes me! 😂😂😂😂😂
You want one of these? Just be ready to pony up about $1,500!😊
How does the print sensor work? Does it only scan an intersection of your index finger? If that's the case, then you'd need to have your finger on the trigger, eh?
It'd probably be faster and more accurate if you put the finger print sensor where the thumb rests.
Hope this product saves lives. 🤞
Excelent !
I l9ve the idea of this but have many nitpicks. Especially whrn the frame is polymer
There are potential uses. Too much tech for CC though, as is. And anything that requires batteries to work raises issues...
Well, it’s designed for home defense, not CC.
So assuming you get ambushed in the street, In the process verification the aggressors would've emptied a whole round in your behind 😅.
It verifies in the time you need to aim. It has zero difference compared to a traditional gun, if it works. But so far it looks as if it indeed _does_ work. But that's not what it's designed for anyway.
A great option to Arm locations where firearms are not permitted... schools classrooms and hospitals etc
My only issue is who has access to these biometrics? I have nothing to hide but if this is another way of control or to be spied on I don't want it, if it's operability can be disabled by your device when the wrong person holds it then clearly it can be disabled remotely from an outside source while I hold it, show us that we're protected and we'll buy it, it's simple.
Do they have a gps system?
imagine getting killed cuz ur guns battery is empty hahaha
Great idea! More of those please! 😃 I would want that more!
Face recognition? How about when you in very dark place need to protect yourself!
Half of the people in the comments crapping on this clearly didn’t have the attention span to go even 4 minutes into the video… sad
I did actually, and I noticed that this system is inherently flawed. The fingerprint authentication portion took a few seconds and had to be carefully positioned to unlock. This has zero application for any self-defense situation and would only be for those who only use a firearm in a controlled environment like a gun range.
@@User-lg6dr exactly
@@User-lg6dr There are other reviewers of the gun and the guns responds faster than they can aim.
I understand the problem this is trying to solve is a difficult one. However, for this product to work, it has to convince me and everyone else that it can fire every time it needs to, in any condition. The Glock trigger safety was a great invention because it was created to alleviate a problem of the device not firing. This kind of safety on the other hand is specifically trying to make the gun not fire, and that seems dangerous.
I guarantee you, it does not actually work.
It has the Forgotten Weapons seal of being impressed if that makes you feel better about it.
@@BrowncoatGofAZ Yeah, it says a lot when most people have only heard of these guns through Ian
The fingerprint unlocking took what, a few seconds to accomplish and had to be precise. This wouldn’t work in a self-defense situation, ever.
it goes with facial recognition too，there is a infrared camera at the rear of grip
If you have young kids in the house to keep it secure takes at least a few seconds to take out of a safe or trigger lock or locked drawer
With a smart gun you could leave it loaded on your nightstand
@@notreally2227 Except when you just came in from a twenty below walk and are wearing gloves and a face mask... or you're complying with Bidet quarantine protocols. Yah, I can see this is a very useful weapon-- as a paper weight.
@@notreally2227 Wonder how well that works.... in the dark.
@@johnhud2536 Only an idiot would leave a loaded gun on a nightstand because it has "smart tech" There are plenty of options that have been shown to work for keeping guns away from kids. Besides the odds of a kid accidentally getting killed by a gun is far less then getting poisoned or drowning in a pool, so if you are going to employ facial recognition and fingerprint access those are the places they should be tried first, where seconds don't matter.
Black Rambo sent me here ✊🏾😂
Id like to see a stress test. One shot or even 5 shots doesnt tell me the actual gun part is reliable....
2,000 bucks that's a lot of money for some people to pay especially when you can buy a regular Glock for round 2 to 500 so the price is very high but then against new technology but maybe they'll come down in price
Robber- "Give me your money"
Me with the smart gun- "hold up bro my face recognition not working"😂😂😂
To encourage smart gun sales the govt could offer a tax credit
I trust 'smart guns' like I trust self-driving cars.
Looks like the cyber punk unity gun
What if the Yakuza cut off my right hand and I need to use my left hand to shoot???
If the Yakuza cut off your hand, you probably have bigger problems than using a weapon meant for home defense.
Californians better hope it doesn't work, or it'll be the only type of guns their overlords allow
I will trust my life to a gimmick that could fail at the worst moment
Too many points of failure for self defense in my opinion. And the fact that it needs a battery is concerning too, cuz EVENTUALLY that battery will fail. Interesting for cops though, cuz it eliminates the mortal danger of a suspect grabbing it.
This will go over as well as fake meat.
When LEO trust smart guns get back to us.
This is how you solve crimes.
S.M.A.R.T gun? sounds like "if you post something online that 'we' don't like, you're not gonna have any means of self-defense."
Absolutely zero reason for this. How about you go hug your neighbors, stop treating people like they're the problem, and recognize that by having a little respect goes a long way.
I disagree with there being no reason for this kind of product. However I agree with everything else you said in the second paragraph.
@@BrowncoatGofAZ i'm interested in hearing where you can see this as applicable?
i can only see this being useful in offensive measures against unarmed people.
@@matthewtreetree
1 that example applies for literally every firearm ever designed.
2 the idea behind this gun is to own a gun that you keep on your nightstand in case someone breaks in, but that only you and anyone you allow to register can use. This provides the option of having a home defense firearm that you can be sure that your children can’t use without you knowing.
What if you are in a life or death situation and for some odd reason it doesn’t recognize your face 😢😱🤕
I’ll stick to my Kimber .45 1911
How many times have we heard cutting edge only to find out it don't work lol