Pashinyan came to rule as an anti-Russian candidate in 2018 before the war. They were already decoupling from Russia, hencewhy Azerbaijan saw the opportunity to take back Karabakh and Russia didn't interfere as a way of punishment.
Well is America that different? .... I mean they are openly saying they will abandon their allies in the moment of need.... And at least Russia has a very big reason: a very difficult war....
@@MarketsDriveTheWorld A war Moscow caused and could easily end. I agree with your first statement, but Ukraine can not be used as an excuse to not support your allies.
I did not reach that part yet before seeing your comment. So I somehow thought that was a German word for some reason. The real meaning threw me for a loop haha
@@shafsteryellowAccording to the UN article 5, the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh have the right of self determination as an indegenes people. Hence it's a disputed area. Don't swollow the turkish propaganda just because they label them self as muslims.
@@Praduewkwklwell Putin say he wants a multipolar world..... With Russian in the EU it would definitely be a multipolar world.... EU money industry and know how + Russian resources and nukes..... Vladivostok may be very far but its people are overwhelmingly Europeans.
Makes sense. Armenia has seen just how reliable an alliance that Russia’s in charge of when they initiated the CSTO’s mutual security clause during its conflict with Azerbaijan in 2020, only to be utterly ignored. This, combined with Russian peacekeepers doing absolutely nothing to stop further clashes from 2021-2023, and it’s no wonder why the Armenians are looking for other, more reliable security guarantees.
Here's another interpretation. 1. The vast majority of the 2020 war as well as the preceding in the 90s was over the status of Nagorno Karabakh. This is not internationally recognised Armenian territory and is in fact Azerbaijani. The CSTO didn't have any obligation to intervene as long as official Armenian territory was mostly unaffected which it was. The collective security wasn't invoked as a result. Therefore it was basically at best a colonial war otherwise a country fomenting separatists in its neighbour. 2. The ceasefire was negotiated with significant Russian assistance and likely pressure on Azerbaijan to stop despite their significant military advantage by then. It was possible without this that NK could have fallen there and then but Russia didn't allow it. 3. The major clashes after this happened after the start of the Russo-Ukrainian war when Russia got kind of busy otherwise it's unlikely it would have happened. I've always thought that the Ukrainian war dragging off has severely destabilized multiple areas of the world. Despite this the principle of Russian intervention under CSTO if official Armenian territory was significantly affected was still recognised by both sides and that line wasn't crossed. 4. Armenian actions of leaning towards the West and trying to curry favour from both sides did nothing to endear them to the Russians. If you want someone to fight for you you've got to pick a side properly. 5. There is no plausible security guarantor apart from Russia. The West did nothing when NK fell. No sanctions, no weapons, no troops. Armenian is frankly too far away and NK too disputed for people to care. The EU needs Azerbaijani energy resources in the foreseeable future and the US doesn't care unless Armenia was actively fighting Russia or China in which case they might give some weapons to deplete them. Russia however is willing to at least mostly guarantee Armenian territorial integrity and that still holds but Armenian actions are rapidly makig that less likely and make Russia more willing to accept Azerbaijani and Turkish requests.
They didn't and couldn't initiate the CSTO mutual security clause because the land Azerbaijan was invading even Armenia recognized as Azerbaijani land. Armenia was already moving away from Russia under Pashinyan before the war, also why Azerbaijan saw the opportunity to take back the land.
@@nath9091The CSTO clause was invoked sometime in 2021 or 2022, when Azerbaijan invaded the internationally recognized borders of Armenia. Not 2020 when it was the disputed Artsakh territory, which even Armenia recognized as a separate entity.
Well is America that different? .... I mean they are openly saying they will abandon their allies in the moment of need.... And at least Russia has a very big reason: a very difficult war....
If you are aware, our country Poland was among the earliest, as far as in 2000s, to endorse Armenia's EU membership. At the time, only our country sympathised with Armenia's miserable location (a reason why we defied Turkey to recognise the genocide in 2005), and it was our country that questioned our Hungarian friends' decision to extradite Ramil Safarov back to Azerbaijan. Hopefully they will be allowed to join.
Armenians and Poles were in the same situation throughout history, finding themselves at the crossroads of more powerful land-hungry countries and being invaded and partitioned many times. It speaks to the standards of Poles that they would do the right thing although it may hurt their relations with other countries. Many countries could learn a thing or two from Poland.
Given that the Ottoman Empire helped Poland by refusing the partitions, and even offered refuge for thousands of Poles during that dark era (including the famous Adam Mickiewicz and Jozef Bem, both died in Ottoman soil), I have to admit Poles have bigger balls for such a daring act.
The EU (and NATO afterwards) would only want Armenia to join in order to poke at Russia. Even if one hates Putin (or Russia in general), they should not ignore this fact as fact. Macron does not give an euro of a damn about Armenia (or anyone else for that matter).
And yet, your country bought recently Bayraktar drones from that horrid place. Basically funding Turkey's war machine to wage war against two of your fellow EU members in the future. How about that?
@@Nevio857 On same page here. EU needs to straighten out their own allies first. While not major, there's still divides in EU and strive, they need to fix it first before adding even more members. They don't want Orban 2.0 😅
@@danielsurvivor1372 please don’t compare Armenians to Turks. I don’t know what the Orbon reference is about. Christian was the first Christian nation so you could very well say that Armenia was the first democratic nation. And all of this has nothing to do with racism that I’m saying.
@@Nevio857 you understand nothing about the link between Asia and Europe. If you want to destroy Europe, let Putin and the Turks continue to collaborate. They are collaborating on trade. They are collaborating even worse on oil. And Armenia and Georgia are the two countries who will maintain European and American power in the region. so you go back to the books and learn a little bit about what you’re talking about. And just a little fact about Armenia economy being that you think it’s the most poor country, it has all the financial signs needed to qualify as a potential investment for the coming years, the highest GDP growth rate, year over year in the region, Lowest inflation rate, highest ranking in terms of safety. to add to that Armenia has extremely high level of untapped resources, including water, which will become the next “oil” resource investment in the coming years.
Great to see Armenia moving away from Russia, If they are gonna stand a chance against Azerbaijan they're gonna need as much relianle partners as possible
@@VinnieMFyes. But Turkey and Azerbaijan have and always will allies of convenience. They barely stand for the same values and somehow are more war criminals than the US. The west will have to weigh whether they value alliances or morality more.
@@VinnieMF No, both Turkiye and Azerbaijan have good relations with the west, or more appropriately *necessary* allies in the west. For Armenia to join the eu means that they will have to disclose their territorial disputes in which the west was never very favorable towards Armenia. Meaning that most likely Turkiye and Azerbaijan will get their so wanted open connecting road, but Armenia will also guarantee that such connection to these two countries will not affect their sovereignty. Also not to mention for Europe the connection to Azerbaijan through an ally alongside with another eu member in Caucasus is probably their wettest dream.
I love how Trump says that banning Tiktok would help Facebook, when in reality it would probably mostly help google. If Tiktok dies, people will probably move to RUclips shorts, not Instagram reels. And that also means that Google will surely be heavily in favor of that bill, that's a ton of potential lobbying money to ensure that it passes
Part of the art form but small details matter. I really liked how when Ben said the words 'turning away from Russia", you had a picture of Armenia literally turning away from Russia.
It''s worth noting that the Armenian Foreign Minister had expressed the similar desire to break away from Russia when in a summit in Antalya, at the neighbouring Turkey, the arch-enemy of Armenia. Turkish media would not give a damn about Armenia at all except regarding Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, yet they were eager to bring this news in, showing just how much respect for Russia has fallen. Given Armenia is Russia's [once] 200 years old ally, this is a clear evidence that Russia is an unreliable ally to take on. This will be an alarming sign for India and Vietnam to watch on, since Armenia is no normal country given its tie to Russia. If China attack India or Vietnam based on Chinese imperial ideology, how are they going to respond? Asking treacherous Russia to do something beyond reach especially with Russia openly endorsing China's claims?
Vietnam has been cosying up to both China and USA, it's actually a very good diplomatic move. Their economy and market (not to mention strategic location) is quite desirable for both powers so there's a bidding war going on.
India and Vietnam don't need Russia's help, nevermind ''relying'' on them. Last I checked, despite their supposed strength on paper, the Chinese military has literally never won a conflict against an outside power. Hell they already tried to invade Vietnam in 1979. Guess how that turned out?
@wotermelon_ China is 100% smarter than Russia. But who know what's gonna occur next? We used to have the Austrian painter who, maximising respect the world gave to Germany and its industrial people at the time, created a bloodbath aftermath. Maybe we should be cautious of everything.
All my prayers for Armenia! Maybe, they are in Asia, but they were the first ever Christian state and even have their own Christian Church since the beginning of times. So, spiritually and mentally, they are more Europeans. Morevoer, Armenia has less than 3 Million people, like Moldova. I am sure they have a chance of being accepted in shorter time than the big applicants.
They aren’t in Asia. They are in the caucusus, which is the highest point in Europe. This part of the border changes its definition every century anyway. Before the border was Ukraine.
a copy-paste from a previous comment. Azerbaijan not only captured Nagorno Karabakh, which they are currently resettling with Azeri. But the bigger thing is that they also crossed the border at multiple places and are now controlling multiple border regions in Armenia proper. a key point that you missed.
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Not really. How come a Russian satellite has the same ideology with the rest of the EU? Baltics& Eeastern members of the EU, all revolted to oppression while Armenia enjoyed being protected by Russia until they abandoned them. Nobody in the EU wants to feed starving, incompetent countries anymore.
Armenia’s press freedom ranking is above many EU nations including Cyprus, Poland and Slovenia. Its GDP per capita is around $9000 which is below all EU members but above other EU candidate countries such as Moldova and Georgia. By democratic indexes it is above some EU countries such as Hungary. Although Armenia is in Asia, so is Cyprus. Armenia is still quite far from joining EU, but providing it candidate status would provide it with the security to decouple from Russian blocks. All in all I think it is a good idea for both the EU and Armenia to increase ties.
@@OnlySubhumansWorkAtRUclips I was hoping for a discussion with others on their opinions on the subject but instead I get whatever it is your attempt is.
The issue is a lot of those countries wouldn't qualify for the EU if they applied now. Hungary has backslid into a semi dictatorship and is a thorn in the side of the EU. Armenia might need to meet a higher standard to join, although geopolitical pressure might speed up the process (tensions with Russia will help).
@@mnm1273 I completely agree that they need to achieve higher standards before joining, however considering Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia have received candidate status I believe giving Armenia candidate status is fully justified as well.
Hi, I'm an American Armenian and I'll keep this factual: - Pashinyan is NOT shifting towards the West, it's a facade to look like Armenia is shifting away. The Armenian government, in 30 years, has NEVER had a formal lobbying presence in Washington D.C. to try and form stronger Alliances with the US and get strategic arms deals. - The NDA (National Democratic Association) political party is the only pro-west party in Armenia and spent $300k in DC - which was separate from the government, and it got 2 congressional hearings on Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh) last year. - The ANCA/AA are two ineffective American grassroots advocacy groups in DC (not lobbying) - and spent 30 years trying to get the US to recognize the Genocide, not spend any money on hiring lobbyists to prevent the next one. This is Russian supported and problematic. - The current government has attempted to dismantle the strength of the 13+ million people in the Diaspora - as a weak, non-connected Diaspora will keep them in power. It's been 30+ years since the diaspora was unified and focused. The path forward has to be Pro-Armenia - which is a combination of engaging the EU, USA, and balancing that with economic and defense alliances with India and Iran. Armenia needs the Taiwan approach, make something economic and ironclad so it will be the porcupine when foreign invaders like Turkey or Azerbaijan meddle. Russia was never the answer, never will be.They are an economic and energy partner but NOT the defense or political ally.
@@santiagoo.8958 Iran actually is not aligned with Azeribaijan, they've been friends with Armenians for over 1000 years! Approximately About 22 million ethnic Turkics (same in Azerbaijan) live in northern Iran, so the Ayatollah would not want to strengthen Azeris positions in the region. They also transport goods through Armenia in Syunik, so they would protect the borders of Armenia if attacked.
Yeah, Armenia is literally between the hammer and the anvil. The country truly needs a good political class right now. Like, a very good one. And not only now, but like always. I do not envy that position.
@@antoninodarioconti6347 It's certainly a challenge to persuade Armenians to be more pragmatic and focus on states-building. I'm optimistic we will build it.
The EU has nothing to do with people lobbying in the US. Your thinking of NATO the military alliance. The two are separate in every way and your free to join one or the other or both. The EU is a trading and political bloc with free movement of goods and people with rule of law standards. Ukraine, moldova and Georgia are joining the EU but none can't join NATO as Russia has invaded a bit of each of them, which bars them from joining.
As of now, it seems like their relation with Iran is stable. At the end, Iran also wants to work in its own interests and they aren't always the same as Russia's.
Its worth noting that Iran and Armenia's friendly relations arent out of ideological agreement, but rather to counter the strategic interests of their mutual enemies, Turkiye and Azerbaijan.
@@hasinabegum1038 Their long-term interests are very much in opposition to one another. Sooner or later, Turkey and Iran will have to settle their differences.
I’m confused, is there precedent for a non-European country applying for EU membership before. I just assumed a country at to actually be in Europe to be in the European Union 🤔
For what it's worth, as a European I am in favor of both Georgia and Armenia joining, even though they are in Asia. After all, I don't think it's that important to be fiscal towards continental borders. Let's think about the fact that the largest forest in the European Union is located in South America, in the Amazon forest.
@@hasinabegum1038 I hope that Albania, North Macedonia and Blackmountain will join the EU before 2030. I hope that the other candidate nations will join by 2035.
Well Ukraine makes sense as its under active war. Turkey is currently not even democratic so unless they get their sh** together they will never join EU. I could see Turkey joining in the future when they have a more secular government.
Even if Turkey becomes more Democratic, there is no way that it gets accepted into the EU. Greece and Cyprus will forever block it and most European Countries don't want Turkey in the EU.@@holysword876
@@holysword876Not only a secular government but completely revamped society after a looooong secular rule. They need to be hardcore Atatürk state for 30+ years after they can be considered to be ready to join.
I don't think Geert Wilders would mind either if Armenia became a member of the EU. Geert Wilders is very popular among the Armenian diaspora in the Netherlands. He is often present at the commemoration at the Armenian Genocide Memorial in the Netherlands. Of course, thousands of Turkish-Dutch always come to protest against his arrival and against the Armenian ginocide monument. Wilders is always clear, he says he supports the Armenians and tells the Turks that they should go back to Erdogan's country.
There doesn't have to be. Malta and Cyprus aren't connected. Neither is French Guiana or the oversees EU territories....there is NO rule saying the EU has to be "territorially connected"
Armenia better up its defense real quick. We have heard this story a few times before but maybe Russia will be too busy in the near future to do anything significant.
@soumyajitdas1729Azerbaijan and Turkey is way way clever than armenia. Dont worry. Armenia better recognize its borders and stop invading its neighbours.
The Netherlands have a proportional representation voting system with no threshold for getting into parliament so every government is a coalition government. The most seats any party had in parliament was about 55 of the 150 or so.
@@Auditormadness9 You guys can pay for them. I do not want to pay a single dime to support and feed corrupt and incompetent countries. No more EU expansion.
We need Armenia in the EU. Every country we can remove from the Russian sphere of influence is worth inviting - and Armenia has taken big strides towards democracy, anti corruption policies and economic stability in the last decade or so. The Armenian people is also just great from my own experience. Very hard working and a good pick for cheap labor which I as a small business owner is in favor of.
I don't think Iran will be interested in abandoning Armenia. Iran tacitly approved American presence, if this means safeguarding Armenia from Azerbaijan and Turkey. You forget that Iran didn't react when Armenia jointly drilled with American force.
Armenia is surrounded by 2 hostile irridentist dictatorships, Azerbaijan and Turkey. Tough spot to be in but joining the EU would help balance its tough geography.
You shouldn't say "Gurt Vilders" but Geert Wilders (the /ee/-sound as in the British pronounciation of pEErs, and the /w/-sound als in What). That is the correct way of saying his name.
I have been to Armenia and it’s quite clearly a country which should take its place among western nations. Having said that l cannot imagine it happening unless there is a collapse of power in Russia. This is possible but not probable
I feel bad for Wilders, it's bizarre you can have such a big party that represents so many people, yet it's still such a large struggle to get to govern the country. He's been in parliament for so long, he deserves to be PM. It's about time to get a couple leaders again who aren't from the two Holland provinces to represent the rest of the country. And if he really can't become PM, then I hope for Caroline to take his place ngl
I love that you left out that Azerbaijan not only captured Nagorno Karabakh, which they are currently resettling with Azeri. But the bigger thing is that they also crossed the border at multiple places and are now controlling multiple border regions in Armenia proper. And a defensive alliance which doesn't react to border incursion and occupation is worthless.
Best case scenario would be good relations for the EU with both Armenia and Azerbaijan. Who are sadly historic enemies, and would be easy to compromise but such trilateral good relation highly benefit all three stakeholders and would be a great feat of strength to achieve.
@TLDR Daily 3:22 1. you pronaunce his name as Géért Wilders. 2. while it was in the talks. the new cabinet form is going to be called "Program Kabinet" which is slightly diffrent from the "Extraparliamentary cabinet"
I mean it doesn't matter if they apply, they're not gonna be let in. If Montenegro has been stuck as an applicant for 16 years despite being a fairly uncontroversial applicant that has actually made great efforts to conform to the EU rule of law, it's safe to say that Armenia would never join the EU this century even if they do apply. Also, Turkey would throw a hissy fit. Which would be funny mind you but yeah, the EU and NATO needs Turkey too much to let it happen.
Turkey won’t b allowed in the EU, it’s too big logistically, Georgia & Armenia could theoretically get in but they’re behind the western Balkans & likely even behind Moldova & with the EU slowing down expansion it will likely take a long time, no reason for Armenia not to apply tho as they have nothing to lose forming the connection.
@@anthonytitone No Turkey is stuck in limbo because they don't conform to the freedoms required to be a member. For example it's illegal to criticize the President which is simply not allowable. Erdogan has been making the situation worse not better so they are further and further from meeting the required goals for joining.
@@jonathanbuzzard1376 I know that’s part of the equation & Erdogan certainly isn’t helping but even if Turkey meets every requirement they won’t b allowed in because of their size. Europeans will never allow a country of 85 million Muslims free movement through the Schengen area, especially when many EU countries have better job opportunities pushing more immigration. To b clear I support allowing Turkey into the EU if they meet requirements but I don’t believe the EU feels the same way & Turks know it
abandoned by CSTO, abandoned by russia, abandoned by the world. its insane how little is being done about the constant azeri aggression towards armenia.
The 100g bars of 70% dark chocolate i regularly buy have already gone up from £1.50 each to £2.75 over the last year or so! I don’t know how I’ll cope if there starts being actual shortages. I need my real chocolate
chocolate is the only thing thats at 2019 prices in my country. the only thing where prices went back down. i like my chocolate, so i pay attention to it
@@BeesKneesBenjamin I am living in Belgium, I am fairly proxy to the dutch National mood, I visit there sometimes. And whilst I recognise it’s not perfect there at the moment, Wilders will never not be racist, he literally wants to persecute a specific minority group. If you can’t see that I’m afraid you might have some self reflection to do on your views on ethnicity.
@@BeesKneesBenjamin Jesus Christ the political situation in this part of the world is bleak, I hope you manage to see past blind racist ignorance one day and improve the electorate by doing so. One day Europe will be free of racist populism.
@@Rafs-on-the-roof Ah snap out of your unrealistic bubble for once rather than immediately defaulting to stuff like "racism" and "populism". It's naïve to think we don't share the same DNA as that of our ancestors. I'm sorry to say but it's quite clear people are discontent in countries with a lot of immigration, and a lot of conflicts currently going on in the world are mostly motivated and end with pursuing a more culturally homogeneous area, no matter what culture or on what continent it is happening. This is universal, this is not race related whatsoever. It's normal to respect the culture of someone else in their own country where everyone shares the same standards and values. Whenever you go on a holiday to a different part of the world, the majority of people try to dress modestly and respect the local rules. However, it is strange to expect acceptance of an entire population for outsiders to adhere strictly to their roots when both systems are incompatible. This is already a bit of an issue with the Netherlands and regions like Noord-Brabant, Limburg and Fryslân having completely different ancestry and a historical background but being institutionally generalized by the Dutch government. Even in your own country there's a bunch of shenanigans going on between Flanders and Wallonia simply because there's two large cultural regions (in this case not diving into east Belgium) that have difficulty to set aside their differences, resulting in Belgium being turned into a federation. Now these are regions all geographically close together, still with a similar set of morals, imagine having a large group of a completely different continent coming here and forcing it upon everyone to smoothly cooperate. Obviously these details will show up in numbers, and whilst it is not nice to generalize, ethnicity does play a substantial role in functioning in society when people refuse to integrate. The political situation isn't bleak, this situation looking from a bigger picture is the default, and history repeating itself for the millionth time. Everyone wants a safe utopia, but it has never existed and it will probably not exist in our timespan as long as we're still being born with the same caveman brain we've had throughout history. As long as people want to feel unique, be different, pursue different religions, and adhere to their own cultural backgrounds, there will never be a world without some turmoil, alienization and other problems. Everyone is welcome in this country, no matter what race, all people expect is for you to adopt our culture, our standards and our values. If you're against them or refuse, then I don't understand why you came here in the first place. I don't know about you, but personally I am pro different identities myself, I love different cultures, I love visiting different countries, meeting different people, learning about different cuisines, hearing different opinions on how to solve various problems, but in order to keep this system alive, it is important to be more protecting of your own culture. Like some things considered normal in other peoples cultures I think is very offensive, there will be things in mine other people find offensive. I don't expect them to adapt to me, I also wish people didn't expect me to adapt. As for racist populism? Open a book every now and then, and travel to a different continent but skip the capital city for once.
What does Armenia bring to the table that benefits the EU? I mean sure I can understand Armenia looking for new partners when CSTO proved (again) to be a joke. But why should that be the EU's problem or responsibility? The EU is not a free handout of wealth. If Armenia has nothing to offer that makes their membership in one way or another economically beneficial for the EU as a whole, then tough luck. The wealth of the EU only works when everyone contributes. So what does Armenia bring to the table?
that's precisely the reason it won't happen anytime soon. the wealthy northern member states are against further eastward expansion. neither ukraine or georgia will be let in in the short-term too. the EU is looking to reform and integrate more closely before adding new members
Armenia brings more than many other small EU countries, including access to the natural resources in the region that don't go through Turkey and an alternative logistics access to Indian Ocean. Overall, EU is more about aligning European countries with similar cultural values. Armenia definitely doesn't need EU "handouts" as its GDP is growing much faster than EU's and its debt is much lower than EU average.
joining EU doesn't mean you are automatically bulletproof or have security at your door. majority of EU countries hate the politics of Brussels. EU is seen in negative light in Eastern Europe because of how EU policies affected their countries. EU basically likes giving members some crumbs and pretends everything will be fine. also, Bulgaria for example is extremely corrupt country, yet still was able to be part of EU, for whatever reason. Bulgaria is still the poorest EU member country.
@@LevisH21never said the EU is perfect, but what you are saying is not right. the EU is responsible for most advances in civil rights and progressive lawmaking in europe. i havent had a single law come out of a national government that i was proud of while many came out of the EU parliament. nearly always the problem is the EU council which urgently needs to be reformed. that the majority of EU countries hate politics of the EU is an utter lie. the EU countries are the EU politics, nothing as of now can be done to sideline them. you have fallen to the lies of populist who do things that are necessary through the EU and then blame the EU for those policies that are necessary but unpopular. also the EU is a security alliance, that in its wording actually is stricter than NATO!
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@@larissamello374 they’re both large and significant enough that a union would realistically be “we’re both joining each other” not “US joins EU” or “EU joins US”. Neither side would accept a unilateral merger.
To be honest i think it will happen eventually, I don't know if I will see it but I sincerely believe that the EU its the next model for nations to cooperate. USA will take a longer time because of their power and imperialistic ideals but eventually I see every nation in some kind of federation.@@aflack482
Its better this way. With the location it wouldnt be good for Turkey to be a western puppet state, Turkey would benefit more from being a neutral country if we had a president who wasnt a puppet like erdogan
Ya think? And good riddance. No need for warmongering, fascist empires in the world let alone the EU. But if I'm gonna be completely honest, there are 5 million Turks in Germany alone. All ready to fullfill Erdogan's dreams of controlling from the inside the European continent as soon as he gives the signal. In fact, Turks in Germany already are trying to form a party in order gain a foothold in Germany's parliament and as such the EU's. Just imagine what will happen if these creatures come to power. Add in a few million more if you take into account the other western European countries and well... we're royally fucked. Because we "respect human rights" to the letter and don't want to be labelled Islamophobs by these creatures.
The problem with the TikTok ban is that 1) it's very likely unconstitutional, and 2) doesn't solve the root of the problems that it supposed to solves. China can easily just buy data of US citizens from data brokers even more easily than it could get from TikTok. The easiest thing to do would be to actively establish strong internet privacy laws and ban the selling of user data to third parties, but the Republicans took a sledgehammer to privacy regulation during the Trump administration, so we know what their stance is on that.
It's funny how people think Russia will just watch this joining with its eyes closed. Armenia is surrounded by Turkey and Azerbaijan, which are its biggest enemies and if Armenia does something against the interest of Russia such as serving as a military base of NATO then Russia will start supporting Azerbaijan and Turkey on the conflicts between those three. I think the best option in the hand is forging good relations with the neighbors. If Armenia becomes a part of Europe Iran will abandon it too and its only ally nearby will be Georgia, which is not so effective.
"wAiT, buT aRmEniA isn't EUROPEAN!!!" Wow, the amount of racism in the comments is astonishing! Armenia is culturally European, it is more tied to Europe, than the Middle East. Also if you're so pedantic on geography, Cyprus is in Asia and it's an EU state, Georgia, which is a candidate is also in Asia and should I even mention Malta?
a. Is EU membership for Armenia really likely or could the Eastern European country between already EU-hyped Georgia/Sakartvelo to the north, an increasingly treacherous Iran to the south, and two of Yerevan's most hated enemies respectively NATO-member Turkey to the west and an overwhelmingly emboldened Azerbaijan to the east? b. Who will be taking Wilders' place as the Dutch prime minister replacing Rutte?
unfortuantely, they had no choice. turkey was a part of NATO, azeribaijan is a close ally *or satellite depeniding on how you view it*. Armenia was forced into CSTO for protection, and CSTO did absolutely nothing to help them
@@Aegis--- Do you think Russila will just stay reactless against Armenia's "betrayal"? Armenia is leaning more towards Europe, which Russia hates the most and all their foreign affairs are meant to fight against the expanding West.
Georgia and Armenia should ALWAYS be very close allies of each other and close allies of EU and NATO. Unfortunately instead of invading Azerbaijan (which would of been MUCH better option) Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia didn't care about the genocide vs Christian Armenians in Nagorno-Karabah, that was done by the Muslims of Azerbaijan with the help of Turkey. Not helping Armenia is a big shame not only for the Russia but also for the EU, USA, NATO and the entire west.
It's surreal how TLDR has the time to make videos on topics with great perspectively and precariously long term unpredictablity like Armenian (or any future new EU membership). whilst TLDR has rather appaulingly made zero content on the ongoing climate crisis from global warming of which has concretely measured risks and immediate to long term dangers. Maybe for some audiences it's more "politically correct" to ignore the elephant in the room.
I don't think you understand what the word news means. Georgia's application is a change of the situation that's noteworthy Also they do cover climate change, especially in the positive section about changes that might impact.
@@mnm1273 not to mention coverage of things like significant climate conferences. Indeed, they’re a news channel not a climate science channel. They’re on nebula too iirc, so you have plenty of options like Climate Town and Simon Clark on there which they clearly are happy to work with
As it turns out
Armenia really didn’t appreciate being abandoned when they were attacked
Who would have thought
easy on the sarcasm lil buddy. dont you have homework to do?
Pashinyan came to rule as an anti-Russian candidate in 2018 before the war. They were already decoupling from Russia, hencewhy Azerbaijan saw the opportunity to take back Karabakh and Russia didn't interfere as a way of punishment.
Armenia played dumb games and won dumb prizes. Who would have thought
Well is America that different? .... I mean they are openly saying they will abandon their allies in the moment of need.... And at least Russia has a very big reason: a very difficult war....
@@MarketsDriveTheWorld A war Moscow caused and could easily end. I agree with your first statement, but Ukraine can not be used as an excuse to not support your allies.
And Russia’s influence in the Caucasus drifts further and further away.
Is that smart as Armenia would face regional isolation?
@@tiglishnobody8750They don’t have a choice.
If Russia wanted an ally in the Caucasus, don’t do nothing as they get invaded.
Independence for Chechnya!
Russia won’t let it join.
@@tiglishnobody8750 Would they really face regional isolation? Georgia is also attempting to join the EU
I love how TLDR feels much more human compared to a lot of other news platforms (ex. Ben laughing at "Zuckerschmuck").
Completely agree. I get excited whenever they put out a video even if it's something I know absolutely nothing about.
Couldn't agree more! I came to the comment section to comment about the "Zuckerschmuck" laugh. Absolute gold to watch.
I did not reach that part yet before seeing your comment. So I somehow thought that was a German word for some reason. The real meaning threw me for a loop haha
Isn't it antisemitic, though? Calling him that?
It would make sense for Armenia and Georgia to make a joint application.
Georgia already made EU application and got candidate status
Makes more sense Armenia and Azerbaijan to make a joint application.
@@pablobomgiorno8273 Azerbaijan has a worse track record of respecting human rights and democracy than Russia.
No, Azerbajan is a muslim shithole
@@NaviamoldGeorgia got rejected.
Armenia loosing Nagaro Karabak really hit the nail in the coffin.
Their illegal occupation?
@@shafsteryellowAccording to the UN article 5, the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh have the right of self determination as an indegenes people. Hence it's a disputed area. Don't swollow the turkish propaganda just because they label them self as muslims.
@@shafsteryellow , what illegal occupation? They were there before the Turkic people
@@shafsteryellow Go open some objective history books, you heretic.
@@iulianviorelmosteanu2800 then why are you silencing Catalan independence, dear Europeans? they were there before anyone else
6:37 I always love moments when Ben cracks up at comedic comments/news
Lmao no amount of compusre can read trump quotes with a serious face
Fr, Seeing him laugh on here is rare
2:31 seems like he was about to laugh here lol
I could see him trying not to laugh a couple of times through this
Definitely my favourite part. He doesn't break composure often but when he does it's always the funniest shit
Even Japan will join the EU before Turkey, lol
YES
I bet Russia will join before turkey. 😂😂
@@MarketsDriveTheWorldvladivostok-lisbon union state?!??!
@@Praduewkwklwell Putin say he wants a multipolar world..... With Russian in the EU it would definitely be a multipolar world....
EU money industry and know how + Russian resources and nukes.....
Vladivostok may be very far but its people are overwhelmingly Europeans.
We are in the same petroleum dollar debt trap, so...
Drop everything else... chocolate cannot be in crisis! 😨
Makes sense. Armenia has seen just how reliable an alliance that Russia’s in charge of when they initiated the CSTO’s mutual security clause during its conflict with Azerbaijan in 2020, only to be utterly ignored. This, combined with Russian peacekeepers doing absolutely nothing to stop further clashes from 2021-2023, and it’s no wonder why the Armenians are looking for other, more reliable security guarantees.
Here's another interpretation.
1. The vast majority of the 2020 war as well as the preceding in the 90s was over the status of Nagorno Karabakh. This is not internationally recognised Armenian territory and is in fact Azerbaijani. The CSTO didn't have any obligation to intervene as long as official Armenian territory was mostly unaffected which it was. The collective security wasn't invoked as a result. Therefore it was basically at best a colonial war otherwise a country fomenting separatists in its neighbour.
2. The ceasefire was negotiated with significant Russian assistance and likely pressure on Azerbaijan to stop despite their significant military advantage by then. It was possible without this that NK could have fallen there and then but Russia didn't allow it.
3. The major clashes after this happened after the start of the Russo-Ukrainian war when Russia got kind of busy otherwise it's unlikely it would have happened. I've always thought that the Ukrainian war dragging off has severely destabilized multiple areas of the world. Despite this the principle of Russian intervention under CSTO if official Armenian territory was significantly affected was still recognised by both sides and that line wasn't crossed.
4. Armenian actions of leaning towards the West and trying to curry favour from both sides did nothing to endear them to the Russians. If you want someone to fight for you you've got to pick a side properly.
5. There is no plausible security guarantor apart from Russia. The West did nothing when NK fell. No sanctions, no weapons, no troops. Armenian is frankly too far away and NK too disputed for people to care. The EU needs Azerbaijani energy resources in the foreseeable future and the US doesn't care unless Armenia was actively fighting Russia or China in which case they might give some weapons to deplete them. Russia however is willing to at least mostly guarantee Armenian territorial integrity and that still holds but Armenian actions are rapidly makig that less likely and make Russia more willing to accept Azerbaijani and Turkish requests.
They didn't and couldn't initiate the CSTO mutual security clause because the land Azerbaijan was invading even Armenia recognized as Azerbaijani land. Armenia was already moving away from Russia under Pashinyan before the war, also why Azerbaijan saw the opportunity to take back the land.
@@nath9091The CSTO clause was invoked sometime in 2021 or 2022, when Azerbaijan invaded the internationally recognized borders of Armenia. Not 2020 when it was the disputed Artsakh territory, which even Armenia recognized as a separate entity.
Well is America that different? .... I mean they are openly saying they will abandon their allies in the moment of need.... And at least Russia has a very big reason: a very difficult war....
@@MarketsDriveTheWorldWhen has NATO ever failed to uphold its security guarantees?
6:39 you know it’s funny when the presenter can’t hold his face when quoting Donald Trump’s words in literal detail.
I find it a bit funny that in the “tldr good news” the sentence “two bodies have been recovered” is featured…
Ideally Armenia would eventually join NATO as well, but there is no way in hell that Turkey will allow that to happen.
If Greece was not already a NATO member, Turkey would even block NATO membership for Greece.
Turkey is a problem. They've been a problem ever since the conquest of Constantinople
@@shafsteryellowfound the aliyev bot
From what I recall from my history lessons, they attempted to do so not too long after the fall of the USSR and yeah Turkey was indeed the issue.
Especially since Turkey Backed Azerbaijan in their recent land grab.
A chocolate shortage!!!!!! Enough is enough! Things are getting out of hand now!!!!!
This but unironically
If you are aware, our country Poland was among the earliest, as far as in 2000s, to endorse Armenia's EU membership. At the time, only our country sympathised with Armenia's miserable location (a reason why we defied Turkey to recognise the genocide in 2005), and it was our country that questioned our Hungarian friends' decision to extradite Ramil Safarov back to Azerbaijan. Hopefully they will be allowed to join.
Armenians and Poles were in the same situation throughout history, finding themselves at the crossroads of more powerful land-hungry countries and being invaded and partitioned many times. It speaks to the standards of Poles that they would do the right thing although it may hurt their relations with other countries. Many countries could learn a thing or two from Poland.
Given that the Ottoman Empire helped Poland by refusing the partitions, and even offered refuge for thousands of Poles during that dark era (including the famous Adam Mickiewicz and Jozef Bem, both died in Ottoman soil), I have to admit Poles have bigger balls for such a daring act.
The EU (and NATO afterwards) would only want Armenia to join in order to poke at Russia. Even if one hates Putin (or Russia in general), they should not ignore this fact as fact. Macron does not give an euro of a damn about Armenia (or anyone else for that matter).
They didnt help us, lol. They were busy with their own problems
And yet, your country bought recently Bayraktar drones from that horrid place. Basically funding Turkey's war machine to wage war against two of your fellow EU members in the future. How about that?
I am supporter for letting Armenia and Georgia join the EU. This will make the EU stronger.
Armenia can join anything they want but not before conflic is resolved and reparations paid. Otherwise europe is just giving asaylum to criminals
How will it make the EU stronger? Especially Armenia is a very poor country, but my biggest concern is their extreme conservative way of thinking
@@Nevio857 On same page here. EU needs to straighten out their own allies first. While not major, there's still divides in EU and strive, they need to fix it first before adding even more members. They don't want Orban 2.0 😅
@@danielsurvivor1372 please don’t compare Armenians to Turks. I don’t know what the Orbon reference is about. Christian was the first Christian nation so you could very well say that Armenia was the first democratic nation. And all of this has nothing to do with racism that I’m saying.
@@Nevio857 you understand nothing about the link between Asia and Europe. If you want to destroy Europe, let Putin and the Turks continue to collaborate. They are collaborating on trade. They are collaborating even worse on oil. And Armenia and Georgia are the two countries who will maintain European and American power in the region. so you go back to the books and learn a little bit about what you’re talking about. And just a little fact about Armenia economy being that you think it’s the most poor country, it has all the financial signs needed to qualify as a potential investment for the coming years, the highest GDP growth rate, year over year in the region, Lowest inflation rate, highest ranking in terms of safety. to add to that Armenia has extremely high level of untapped resources, including water, which will become the next “oil” resource investment in the coming years.
Great to see Armenia moving away from Russia, If they are gonna stand a chance against Azerbaijan they're gonna need as much relianle partners as possible
The west would need to decide whether it is worth muddying relations with Turkey
Isn't the West taking Armenia in with open arms just causing unnecessary friction with Azerbaijan and Turkey, much more import alies?
@@VinnieMFyes. But Turkey and Azerbaijan have and always will allies of convenience. They barely stand for the same values and somehow are more war criminals than the US.
The west will have to weigh whether they value alliances or morality more.
The West is not a reliable partner and they would be willing to use Armenia as a proxy.
One side being bad, does not make the other side saintly.
@@VinnieMF No, both Turkiye and Azerbaijan have good relations with the west, or more appropriately *necessary* allies in the west.
For Armenia to join the eu means that they will have to disclose their territorial disputes in which the west was never very favorable towards Armenia. Meaning that most likely Turkiye and Azerbaijan will get their so wanted open connecting road, but Armenia will also guarantee that such connection to these two countries will not affect their sovereignty. Also not to mention for Europe the connection to Azerbaijan through an ally alongside with another eu member in Caucasus is probably their wettest dream.
6:55 love the smirk at 'the beans'
I love how Trump says that banning Tiktok would help Facebook, when in reality it would probably mostly help google. If Tiktok dies, people will probably move to RUclips shorts, not Instagram reels. And that also means that Google will surely be heavily in favor of that bill, that's a ton of potential lobbying money to ensure that it passes
Vive la GRANDE ARMÉNIE !!! Pays fantastique avec un pople fier et magnifique ❤️
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Part of the art form but small details matter. I really liked how when Ben said the words 'turning away from Russia", you had a picture of Armenia literally turning away from Russia.
It''s worth noting that the Armenian Foreign Minister had expressed the similar desire to break away from Russia when in a summit in Antalya, at the neighbouring Turkey, the arch-enemy of Armenia. Turkish media would not give a damn about Armenia at all except regarding Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, yet they were eager to bring this news in, showing just how much respect for Russia has fallen. Given Armenia is Russia's [once] 200 years old ally, this is a clear evidence that Russia is an unreliable ally to take on.
This will be an alarming sign for India and Vietnam to watch on, since Armenia is no normal country given its tie to Russia. If China attack India or Vietnam based on Chinese imperial ideology, how are they going to respond? Asking treacherous Russia to do something beyond reach especially with Russia openly endorsing China's claims?
Vietnam has been cosying up to both China and USA, it's actually a very good diplomatic move. Their economy and market (not to mention strategic location) is quite desirable for both powers so there's a bidding war going on.
India and Vietnam really don't need Russia's help to take on China.
@@namvu2362 A bit of playing Finlandisation worked, for now. However, Vietnam isn't Thailand to play both sides and it is worth a warning to remember.
India and Vietnam don't need Russia's help, nevermind ''relying'' on them. Last I checked, despite their supposed strength on paper, the Chinese military has literally never won a conflict against an outside power. Hell they already tried to invade Vietnam in 1979. Guess how that turned out?
@wotermelon_ China is 100% smarter than Russia. But who know what's gonna occur next? We used to have the Austrian painter who, maximising respect the world gave to Germany and its industrial people at the time, created a bloodbath aftermath. Maybe we should be cautious of everything.
All my prayers for Armenia! Maybe, they are in Asia, but they were the first ever Christian state and even have their own Christian Church since the beginning of times. So, spiritually and mentally, they are more Europeans. Morevoer, Armenia has less than 3 Million people, like Moldova. I am sure they have a chance of being accepted in shorter time than the big applicants.
what do you want to say?!! Christianity is a European religion?!! Did you know that Christianity originated in the Middle East??
Europe is not christian.
They aren’t in Asia. They are in the caucusus, which is the highest point in Europe. This part of the border changes its definition every century anyway. Before the border was Ukraine.
Long live Armenia!
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a copy-paste from a previous comment.
Azerbaijan not only captured Nagorno Karabakh, which they are currently resettling with Azeri. But the bigger thing is that they also crossed the border at multiple places and are now controlling multiple border regions in Armenia proper.
a key point that you missed.
I welcome Georgia and Armenia joining the EU 🇪🇺
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I dont
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Of course you don’t. You’re some Pakistani squatting in London.
@@cugeltheclever3766you noting is zero
Armenia joinung the EU would be an absolute blessing. It is where it ideologically belongs. 🇪🇺🤝🇦🇲
Not really. How come a Russian satellite has the same ideology with the rest of the EU? Baltics& Eeastern members of the EU, all revolted to oppression while Armenia enjoyed being protected by Russia until they abandoned them. Nobody in the EU wants to feed starving, incompetent countries anymore.
@@koenkoen1270A few years ago people wanted to get out of Russian influence over the country, this year they are succeeding
It's gonna join this late autumn
Armenia’s press freedom ranking is above many EU nations including Cyprus, Poland and Slovenia. Its GDP per capita is around $9000 which is below all EU members but above other EU candidate countries such as Moldova and Georgia. By democratic indexes it is above some EU countries such as Hungary. Although Armenia is in Asia, so is Cyprus.
Armenia is still quite far from joining EU, but providing it candidate status would provide it with the security to decouple from Russian blocks. All in all I think it is a good idea for both the EU and Armenia to increase ties.
I take Transnistria before armenia!
@@OnlySubhumansWorkAtRUclips I was hoping for a discussion with others on their opinions on the subject but instead I get whatever it is your attempt is.
@@strpet27 🤣🤣🤣
The issue is a lot of those countries wouldn't qualify for the EU if they applied now. Hungary has backslid into a semi dictatorship and is a thorn in the side of the EU. Armenia might need to meet a higher standard to join, although geopolitical pressure might speed up the process (tensions with Russia will help).
@@mnm1273 I completely agree that they need to achieve higher standards before joining, however considering Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia have received candidate status I believe giving Armenia candidate status is fully justified as well.
Hi, I'm an American Armenian and I'll keep this factual:
- Pashinyan is NOT shifting towards the West, it's a facade to look like Armenia is shifting away. The Armenian government, in 30 years, has NEVER had a formal lobbying presence in Washington D.C. to try and form stronger Alliances with the US and get strategic arms deals.
- The NDA (National Democratic Association) political party is the only pro-west party in Armenia and spent $300k in DC - which was separate from the government, and it got 2 congressional hearings on Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh) last year.
- The ANCA/AA are two ineffective American grassroots advocacy groups in DC (not lobbying) - and spent 30 years trying to get the US to recognize the Genocide, not spend any money on hiring lobbyists to prevent the next one. This is Russian supported and problematic.
- The current government has attempted to dismantle the strength of the 13+ million people in the Diaspora - as a weak, non-connected Diaspora will keep them in power. It's been 30+ years since the diaspora was unified and focused.
The path forward has to be Pro-Armenia - which is a combination of engaging the EU, USA, and balancing that with economic and defense alliances with India and Iran. Armenia needs the Taiwan approach, make something economic and ironclad so it will be the porcupine when foreign invaders like Turkey or Azerbaijan meddle.
Russia was never the answer, never will be.They are an economic and energy partner but NOT the defense or political ally.
Isn't Iran aligned with Azerbaijan? considering the millions of azeris that live in northern Iran
@@santiagoo.8958 Iran actually is not aligned with Azeribaijan, they've been friends with Armenians for over 1000 years! Approximately About 22 million ethnic Turkics (same in Azerbaijan) live in northern Iran, so the Ayatollah would not want to strengthen Azeris positions in the region. They also transport goods through Armenia in Syunik, so they would protect the borders of Armenia if attacked.
Yeah, Armenia is literally between the hammer and the anvil.
The country truly needs a good political class right now.
Like, a very good one.
And not only now, but like always.
I do not envy that position.
@@antoninodarioconti6347 It's certainly a challenge to persuade Armenians to be more pragmatic and focus on states-building. I'm optimistic we will build it.
The EU has nothing to do with people lobbying in the US. Your thinking of NATO the military alliance. The two are separate in every way and your free to join one or the other or both.
The EU is a trading and political bloc with free movement of goods and people with rule of law standards.
Ukraine, moldova and Georgia are joining the EU but none can't join NATO as Russia has invaded a bit of each of them, which bars them from joining.
What about Armenia's relation with Iran? Will Iran still continue to have good terms with Armenia even if it joins the EU and gets closer to the west?
As of now, it seems like their relation with Iran is stable. At the end, Iran also wants to work in its own interests and they aren't always the same as Russia's.
Its worth noting that Iran and Armenia's friendly relations arent out of ideological agreement, but rather to counter the strategic interests of their mutual enemies, Turkiye and Azerbaijan.
@@johnvanjohn825Turkey is not enemy of Iran.
@@hasinabegum1038 Their long-term interests are very much in opposition to one another. Sooner or later, Turkey and Iran will have to settle their differences.
@@johnvanjohn825 And also, something that's usually overlooked is that Armenians are the most powerful and influential minority group inside Iran.
6:40 that chuckle was gold
Fake laughter
NO NOT THE CHOCOLATE CRISIS
I’m confused, is there precedent for a non-European country applying for EU membership before. I just assumed a country at to actually be in Europe to be in the European Union 🤔
For what it's worth, as a European I am in favor of both Georgia and Armenia joining, even though they are in Asia. After all, I don't think it's that important to be fiscal towards continental borders. Let's think about the fact that the largest forest in the European Union is located in South America, in the Amazon forest.
Cyprus also isn't in Europe. It's more about cultural heritage and values than geography
@@sonneh86ie. christianity i guess
What your opinion about Albania joining EU
@@tobiasit2190 Cypriots are essentially Greek, although in a possible reunification Turkish-speaking Cypriots would also be European citizens.
@@hasinabegum1038 I hope that Albania, North Macedonia and Blackmountain will join the EU before 2030. I hope that the other candidate nations will join by 2035.
At this point kazakhstan will joined the EU before turkey and Ukraine
Well Ukraine makes sense as its under active war. Turkey is currently not even democratic so unless they get their sh** together they will never join EU. I could see Turkey joining in the future when they have a more secular government.
Even if Turkey becomes more Democratic, there is no way that it gets accepted into the EU. Greece and Cyprus will forever block it and most European Countries don't want Turkey in the EU.@@holysword876
@@holysword876 fair enough
@@holysword876Azerbaijan is one of The Most secular countries on The planet with extremely secular government,Secular people,Secular constitution
@@holysword876Not only a secular government but completely revamped society after a looooong secular rule.
They need to be hardcore Atatürk state for 30+ years after they can be considered to be ready to join.
I don't think Geert Wilders would mind either if Armenia became a member of the EU. Geert Wilders is very popular among the Armenian diaspora in the Netherlands. He is often present at the commemoration at the Armenian Genocide Memorial in the Netherlands. Of course, thousands of Turkish-Dutch always come to protest against his arrival and against the Armenian ginocide monument. Wilders is always clear, he says he supports the Armenians and tells the Turks that they should go back to Erdogan's country.
Actually Dutch people have had enough of feeding incomptetent, corrupt countries. That's why we voted for him.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ARMENIA IN THE EU
Armenia can consider it but it will never happen. There's no territorial continuity with mainland Europe.
There doesn't have to be. Malta and Cyprus aren't connected. Neither is French Guiana or the oversees EU territories....there is NO rule saying the EU has to be "territorially connected"
Armenia in the EU could be a great way of making Russia lose power in the Caucasus
Armenia better up its defense real quick. We have heard this story a few times before but maybe Russia will be too busy in the near future to do anything significant.
Where would they invade from? The fucking sky?
@@socire72 Iran is right there, Putin is buddies with them. Also, more of a reason to step up the invasion of Georgia.
@soumyajitdas1729Azerbaijan and Turkey is way way clever than armenia. Dont worry. Armenia better recognize its borders and stop invading its neighbours.
The Netherlands have a proportional representation voting system with no threshold for getting into parliament so every government is a coalition government. The most seats any party had in parliament was about 55 of the 150 or so.
Nice to hear something positive from a story involving China and Taiwan for once
Id rather they join than albania or Serbia
Certainly not Albania. Edi Rama is taking orders from Erdogan anyway.
@@georgedevries3992 get a job and start paying the Germans back 😂
@@shafsteryellow Turkish girls doing prostitution in Germany 😢
@@shafsteryellow And you say that because you assume I am a what, exactly?
Or you just wanted to be mean, like the good little heretic you are!
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Would be nice to have Armenia in the EU in the future.
Why it's a shit economy
@@shafsteryellowthus join to fix
@@Auditormadness9 You guys can pay for them. I do not want to pay a single dime to support and feed corrupt and incompetent countries. No more EU expansion.
@@shafsteryellowour economy was developed very much after 2018 democratic revolution, also we have very fast growing IT sector
The real place of Armenia its EU family
"Extra-parliamentary" in English sounds like it should mean "out of parliament", and not what you mean at 4:49.
We need Armenia in the EU. Every country we can remove from the Russian sphere of influence is worth inviting - and Armenia has taken big strides towards democracy, anti corruption policies and economic stability in the last decade or so. The Armenian people is also just great from my own experience. Very hard working and a good pick for cheap labor which I as a small business owner is in favor of.
You sure do love WW3.
@@Raul_MenendezRussia doesn’t have a right to influence nations
Not something Russia is willing to start WW3 over
@Raul_Menendez it's preferable to russian rule
I hope armenia gets in :) the armenians have been though a lot of crap and this might be the end of that
I don't think Iran will be interested in abandoning Armenia. Iran tacitly approved American presence, if this means safeguarding Armenia from Azerbaijan and Turkey. You forget that Iran didn't react when Armenia jointly drilled with American force.
Armenia is surrounded by 2 hostile irridentist dictatorships, Azerbaijan and Turkey. Tough spot to be in but joining the EU would help balance its tough geography.
You shouldn't say "Gurt Vilders" but Geert Wilders (the /ee/-sound as in the British pronounciation of pEErs, and the /w/-sound als in What). That is the correct way of saying his name.
I have been to Armenia and it’s quite clearly a country which should take its place among western nations. Having said that l cannot imagine it happening unless there is a collapse of power in Russia. This is possible but not probable
It's piss poor
@@shafsteryellowBaku will be under sea soon
It would far more advantageous if Georgia also joined
Armenia and Georgia will likely join together.
both georgia and armenia should join
As an Azerbaijani I wish good luck to Armenia. The entire South Caucasus should strive for the European Union.
No. Just Armenia and Georgia.
Why not Azerbaijan?@@ch.t6768
So when you giving back Nagorno-Karabakh?
@@Da__goatThat's not something this person can influence. Be kind toward your fellow humans please.
I never understood why and how the Caucasus is thought to have anything to do with Europe.
I feel bad for Wilders, it's bizarre you can have such a big party that represents so many people, yet it's still such a large struggle to get to govern the country. He's been in parliament for so long, he deserves to be PM. It's about time to get a couple leaders again who aren't from the two Holland provinces to represent the rest of the country. And if he really can't become PM, then I hope for Caroline to take his place ngl
I love that you left out that Azerbaijan not only captured Nagorno Karabakh, which they are currently resettling with Azeri. But the bigger thing is that they also crossed the border at multiple places and are now controlling multiple border regions in Armenia proper. And a defensive alliance which doesn't react to border incursion and occupation is worthless.
thank you for raising this point!
nobody talks about this.
Yes. Away from dictators and gang eaters.
was somebody just spouting ben really funny jokes in between each shot or something lmao
Best case scenario would be good relations for the EU with both Armenia and Azerbaijan. Who are sadly historic enemies, and would be easy to compromise but such trilateral good relation highly benefit all three stakeholders and would be a great feat of strength to achieve.
@TLDR Daily 3:22
1. you pronaunce his name as Géért Wilders.
2. while it was in the talks. the new cabinet form is going to be called "Program Kabinet" which is slightly diffrent from the "Extraparliamentary cabinet"
1. Wtf is an é?
2. Wtf are two é's?
I mean it doesn't matter if they apply, they're not gonna be let in. If Montenegro has been stuck as an applicant for 16 years despite being a fairly uncontroversial applicant that has actually made great efforts to conform to the EU rule of law, it's safe to say that Armenia would never join the EU this century even if they do apply. Also, Turkey would throw a hissy fit. Which would be funny mind you but yeah, the EU and NATO needs Turkey too much to let it happen.
Turkey won’t b allowed in the EU, it’s too big logistically, Georgia & Armenia could theoretically get in but they’re behind the western Balkans & likely even behind Moldova & with the EU slowing down expansion it will likely take a long time, no reason for Armenia not to apply tho as they have nothing to lose forming the connection.
@@anthonytitone No Turkey is stuck in limbo because they don't conform to the freedoms required to be a member. For example it's illegal to criticize the President which is simply not allowable. Erdogan has been making the situation worse not better so they are further and further from meeting the required goals for joining.
@@anthonytitone I mean yeah sure, they might as well try. But I really hope that they're not actually relying on it happening anytime soon.
@@jonathanbuzzard1376 I know that’s part of the equation & Erdogan certainly isn’t helping but even if Turkey meets every requirement they won’t b allowed in because of their size. Europeans will never allow a country of 85 million Muslims free movement through the Schengen area, especially when many EU countries have better job opportunities pushing more immigration. To b clear I support allowing Turkey into the EU if they meet requirements but I don’t believe the EU feels the same way & Turks know it
@@anthonytitoneAlbania may join EU although It's 60% Muslim
abandoned by CSTO, abandoned by russia, abandoned by the world. its insane how little is being done about the constant azeri aggression towards armenia.
How was it abandoned it was illegally occupying Azerbaijan... Russia had no authority to intervene
@@shafsteryelloweven when azerbaijan attacked armenia proper? 🤔
@@shafsteryellow Azerbaijan was shelling Jermuk, a town of 6000 people in Armenia proper.
The 100g bars of 70% dark chocolate i regularly buy have already gone up from £1.50 each to £2.75 over the last year or so! I don’t know how I’ll cope if there starts being actual shortages. I need my real chocolate
chocolate is the only thing thats at 2019 prices in my country. the only thing where prices went back down. i like my chocolate, so i pay attention to it
Just add some sawdust
is it possible, they are so far?
Cyprus is technically in Asia isn't it?
@@AvetVardanyan-i2pCyprus is an island with a large Greek population, if you compare that to Armenia you're just being dishonest.
@@zoomerboomer1396armenia is in Europe
@@jeremiahmerritt7463 Armenia is in Asia.
Well japan is very far from Europe but in practice they are part of the west so the same geopolitical side.
The headline for the Wilders section threw me for a loop for a second there, almost busted out the champagne :(
Trust me, if you would've lived in the Netherlands, you'd understand this movement
@@BeesKneesBenjamin I am living in Belgium, I am fairly proxy to the dutch National mood, I visit there sometimes. And whilst I recognise it’s not perfect there at the moment, Wilders will never not be racist, he literally wants to persecute a specific minority group. If you can’t see that I’m afraid you might have some self reflection to do on your views on ethnicity.
@@Rafs-on-the-roof Ohhh you bet I can see that XD, and so do many others
@@BeesKneesBenjamin Jesus Christ the political situation in this part of the world is bleak, I hope you manage to see past blind racist ignorance one day and improve the electorate by doing so. One day Europe will be free of racist populism.
@@Rafs-on-the-roof Ah snap out of your unrealistic bubble for once rather than immediately defaulting to stuff like "racism" and "populism". It's naïve to think we don't share the same DNA as that of our ancestors. I'm sorry to say but it's quite clear people are discontent in countries with a lot of immigration, and a lot of conflicts currently going on in the world are mostly motivated and end with pursuing a more culturally homogeneous area, no matter what culture or on what continent it is happening. This is universal, this is not race related whatsoever.
It's normal to respect the culture of someone else in their own country where everyone shares the same standards and values. Whenever you go on a holiday to a different part of the world, the majority of people try to dress modestly and respect the local rules. However, it is strange to expect acceptance of an entire population for outsiders to adhere strictly to their roots when both systems are incompatible. This is already a bit of an issue with the Netherlands and regions like Noord-Brabant, Limburg and Fryslân having completely different ancestry and a historical background but being institutionally generalized by the Dutch government. Even in your own country there's a bunch of shenanigans going on between Flanders and Wallonia simply because there's two large cultural regions (in this case not diving into east Belgium) that have difficulty to set aside their differences, resulting in Belgium being turned into a federation. Now these are regions all geographically close together, still with a similar set of morals, imagine having a large group of a completely different continent coming here and forcing it upon everyone to smoothly cooperate. Obviously these details will show up in numbers, and whilst it is not nice to generalize, ethnicity does play a substantial role in functioning in society when people refuse to integrate.
The political situation isn't bleak, this situation looking from a bigger picture is the default, and history repeating itself for the millionth time. Everyone wants a safe utopia, but it has never existed and it will probably not exist in our timespan as long as we're still being born with the same caveman brain we've had throughout history. As long as people want to feel unique, be different, pursue different religions, and adhere to their own cultural backgrounds, there will never be a world without some turmoil, alienization and other problems. Everyone is welcome in this country, no matter what race, all people expect is for you to adopt our culture, our standards and our values. If you're against them or refuse, then I don't understand why you came here in the first place.
I don't know about you, but personally I am pro different identities myself, I love different cultures, I love visiting different countries, meeting different people, learning about different cuisines, hearing different opinions on how to solve various problems, but in order to keep this system alive, it is important to be more protecting of your own culture. Like some things considered normal in other peoples cultures I think is very offensive, there will be things in mine other people find offensive. I don't expect them to adapt to me, I also wish people didn't expect me to adapt.
As for racist populism? Open a book every now and then, and travel to a different continent but skip the capital city for once.
What does Armenia bring to the table that benefits the EU? I mean sure I can understand Armenia looking for new partners when CSTO proved (again) to be a joke. But why should that be the EU's problem or responsibility? The EU is not a free handout of wealth. If Armenia has nothing to offer that makes their membership in one way or another economically beneficial for the EU as a whole, then tough luck. The wealth of the EU only works when everyone contributes. So what does Armenia bring to the table?
that's precisely the reason it won't happen anytime soon. the wealthy northern member states are against further eastward expansion. neither ukraine or georgia will be let in in the short-term too. the EU is looking to reform and integrate more closely before adding new members
@@tylerprudhomme reform is necessary, expansion is necessary
Were you saying the same thing when Ireland joined the EU? Or is it just when former Eastern Block countries consider joining the EU?
Armenia brings more than many other small EU countries, including access to the natural resources in the region that don't go through Turkey and an alternative logistics access to Indian Ocean. Overall, EU is more about aligning European countries with similar cultural values. Armenia definitely doesn't need EU "handouts" as its GDP is growing much faster than EU's and its debt is much lower than EU average.
IF TÜRKİYE ENTER FIRSTLY, Ermania MAY ENTER LATER ON THIS.
How could you ignore the fact that Azerbaijan invaded Armenia proper in 2021 and in 2022! Russia and CSTO just ignored it.
With this I realise that I haven't had some simple chocolate in a while.
I support my government 🇦🇲
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That would mean adding a new alphabet to euro banknotes. 😮
They should
Any TL:DR Daily video where Ben laughs multiple times is a good video to me! 😂
Isn’t Armenia in Asia? 😂
So is most of Turkey, but they're still trying to join. EDIT: Also, Israel is in Eurovision.
Kinda... but they also play in UEFA.
Armenia, like Georgia and Cyprus, are Christian.
Turkey is linked to Europe through history with the many empires as well as their ties to Greece and the roman empire.
@@wile123456so is Armenia.
7:20 notice that none of those reasons for high chocolate prices are "the companies stopped using slaves"
armenia lets goo 🇪🇺❤🇦🇲
joining EU doesn't mean you are automatically bulletproof or have security at your door.
majority of EU countries hate the politics of Brussels.
EU is seen in negative light in Eastern Europe because of how EU policies affected their countries.
EU basically likes giving members some crumbs and pretends everything will be fine.
also, Bulgaria for example is extremely corrupt country, yet still was able to be part of EU, for whatever reason.
Bulgaria is still the poorest EU member country.
@@LevisH21never said the EU is perfect, but what you are saying is not right. the EU is responsible for most advances in civil rights and progressive lawmaking in europe. i havent had a single law come out of a national government that i was proud of while many came out of the EU parliament. nearly always the problem is the EU council which urgently needs to be reformed.
that the majority of EU countries hate politics of the EU is an utter lie. the EU countries are the EU politics, nothing as of now can be done to sideline them. you have fallen to the lies of populist who do things that are necessary through the EU and then blame the EU for those policies that are necessary but unpopular.
also the EU is a security alliance, that in its wording actually is stricter than NATO!
"...double their business"
*suppressed laughs*
Armenia, Georgia and Ukraine must apply together. It’s all make sense. They are fleeing away from the Moscow regime.
You cannot deny geograpy, when you have Iran as a neighbour, Russia in the region. Another deadly trap for Armenia
georgia is already an EU candidate country! cyprus is an EU country.
why shouldn't armenia?
Armenia it is Eastern Europe with Georgia🇬🇪🇦🇲🇪🇺 Armenia is the first Christian nation in the world 🇦🇲🇪🇺 Armenian Nagoya Eastern Europe🇪🇺🇦🇲 Armenian culture, Armenian language, Armenian mentality and nation European🇪🇺🇦🇲 Armenia and Georgia together Eastern Europe🇪🇺
Armenia is fully in Asia but they are Indo-European Iranians.
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Armenia is not Iranian. It’s a cousin of Greek.. You’re Circassian which isn’t even indo-European.
Armenia🇦🇲❤️
My dyslexia read Armenia as America 😭😭
I feel clickbated.
It would be easier for the EU to join America. It is the smaller that joins the larger.
@wotermelon_What about Land size and economy?
@@larissamello374 they’re both large and significant enough that a union would realistically be “we’re both joining each other” not “US joins EU” or “EU joins US”. Neither side would accept a unilateral merger.
@@kikivoorburgwouldn’t this be a wacky world
To be honest i think it will happen eventually, I don't know if I will see it but I sincerely believe that the EU its the next model for nations to cooperate. USA will take a longer time because of their power and imperialistic ideals but eventually I see every nation in some kind of federation.@@aflack482
I do not think Turkey is ever gonna get in the EU at this point
Its better this way. With the location it wouldnt be good for Turkey to be a western puppet state, Turkey would benefit more from being a neutral country if we had a president who wasnt a puppet like erdogan
Ya think? And good riddance. No need for warmongering, fascist empires in the world let alone the EU.
But if I'm gonna be completely honest, there are 5 million Turks in Germany alone. All ready to fullfill Erdogan's dreams of controlling from the inside the European continent as soon as he gives the signal. In fact, Turks in Germany already are trying to form a party in order gain a foothold in Germany's parliament and as such the EU's.
Just imagine what will happen if these creatures come to power. Add in a few million more if you take into account the other western European countries and well... we're royally fucked. Because we "respect human rights" to the letter and don't want to be labelled Islamophobs by these creatures.
They don't want to. Erdoğan has shown all the europhile turks the blatant agenda of the eu
The problem with the TikTok ban is that 1) it's very likely unconstitutional, and 2) doesn't solve the root of the problems that it supposed to solves. China can easily just buy data of US citizens from data brokers even more easily than it could get from TikTok. The easiest thing to do would be to actively establish strong internet privacy laws and ban the selling of user data to third parties, but the Republicans took a sledgehammer to privacy regulation during the Trump administration, so we know what their stance is on that.
It's funny how people think Russia will just watch this joining with its eyes closed. Armenia is surrounded by Turkey and Azerbaijan, which are its biggest enemies and if Armenia does something against the interest of Russia such as serving as a military base of NATO then Russia will start supporting Azerbaijan and Turkey on the conflicts between those three. I think the best option in the hand is forging good relations with the neighbors. If Armenia becomes a part of Europe Iran will abandon it too and its only ally nearby will be Georgia, which is not so effective.
😂 Azerbaijan doesn't need russian help
"wAiT, buT aRmEniA isn't EUROPEAN!!!"
Wow, the amount of racism in the comments is astonishing! Armenia is culturally European, it is more tied to Europe, than the Middle East. Also if you're so pedantic on geography, Cyprus is in Asia and it's an EU state, Georgia, which is a candidate is also in Asia and should I even mention Malta?
Perhaps you should tone dow your own racism a bit?
Armenia is a middle eastern christian state
@@hasinabegum1038 Armenia is not middle eastern
you look like iranian and claim to be a european, being christian wont make you european.
@@hasinabegum1038middle eastern can't be Christian
a. Is EU membership for Armenia really likely or could the Eastern European country between already EU-hyped Georgia/Sakartvelo to the north, an increasingly treacherous Iran to the south, and two of Yerevan's most hated enemies respectively NATO-member Turkey to the west and an overwhelmingly emboldened Azerbaijan to the east?
b. Who will be taking Wilders' place as the Dutch prime minister replacing Rutte?
Lebanon must join the EU 🇱🇧🇪🇺🇱🇧🇪🇺
So should china
It will only take 50 years!
Armenia will be warmly welcome to the European family. 🇵🇱🤝🇦🇲
Thank you. Armenian people have taken significant role throughout polish history, we have a lot of historical ties 🇦🇲♥️🇵🇱
@@Yerevan-yl5oh Yes! And joining the EU will be an excellent opportunity to tighten these good relations!
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5:47 there are other platforms, like this one.
Trusting Putin in the First place, was a foolish choice.
Well when you have them right at the north and the turks at the south i dont think they had another logical choice sadly
unfortuantely, they had no choice. turkey was a part of NATO, azeribaijan is a close ally *or satellite depeniding on how you view it*. Armenia was forced into CSTO for protection, and CSTO did absolutely nothing to help them
@@Aegis--- Do you think Russila will just stay reactless against Armenia's "betrayal"? Armenia is leaning more towards Europe, which Russia hates the most and all their foreign affairs are meant to fight against the expanding West.
The Ukraine thing had no impact on Armenia's decision and loosing Nagorno had everything to do with jt
It did in that it proved that Russia's ultimate goal is to annex its former Soviet "allies"
Georgia and Armenia should ALWAYS be very close allies of each other and close allies of EU and NATO. Unfortunately instead of invading Azerbaijan (which would of been MUCH better option) Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia didn't care about the genocide vs Christian Armenians in Nagorno-Karabah, that was done by the Muslims of Azerbaijan with the help of Turkey. Not helping Armenia is a big shame not only for the Russia but also for the EU, USA, NATO and the entire west.
What a joke. They are not even bordering the EU…
Türkiye and Georgia want to join the EU so it basically borders
It's surreal how TLDR has the time to make videos on topics with great perspectively and precariously long term unpredictablity like Armenian (or any future new EU membership).
whilst TLDR has rather appaulingly made zero content on the ongoing climate crisis from global warming of which has concretely measured risks and immediate to long term dangers.
Maybe for some audiences it's more "politically correct" to ignore the elephant in the room.
I don't think you understand what the word news means. Georgia's application is a change of the situation that's noteworthy
Also they do cover climate change, especially in the positive section about changes that might impact.
@@mnm1273 not to mention coverage of things like significant climate conferences. Indeed, they’re a news channel not a climate science channel. They’re on nebula too iirc, so you have plenty of options like Climate Town and Simon Clark on there which they clearly are happy to work with
WHY DO I NEED TO LOOK AT YOU, JUST PUT VIDEO ON WHOLE SCREEN
Viva Armenia Viva EU
Why would an Asian country be allowed to join the EU. I know Turkey applied but at least part of Turkey is in Europe.
In this respect Russia should be in EU. Geographically and historically much closer to EU than turkey
mannnn Turkey gonna be salty abt this one lmao
as a turkish girl we dont care eu or europe lmao :)
@@xxxxxx-rg6qr If you dont care about eu or Europe, why watch a video about Eu then? lmao :)
Armenia is Just applying
@@nihil_hd1598the video isn't solely about Europe? I don't want my country to be a part of NATO, but i still keep up-to-date with NATO activities.
ı want to watch because ı love this channel generally nothing special :)@@nihil_hd1598
Will Morocco join EU? Algeria ?
They're not Europeans culturally, unlike us
When the EU was born, Morocco asked to join this organization but was rejected
@@armeniangirlieeWhen the EU was born, Morocco asked to join this organization but was rejected