Why Armenia Wants to Join the European Union
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With tensions growing between Armenia and Russia, the Armenian Prime Minister has expressed interest in applying to join the EU. So in this video, we'll explain whether this is likely or even possible and what this says about Russia's regional influence.
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Let them join, it would be funny if they got into EU sooner than Turkey.
Poetic Justice
Turkey will not join the EU anytime soon, perhaps when Erdogan is gone and they done a 180 on their politics, until then no-way.
This comment reminds of a meme where Timmy Turner was praying with the caption ""God please let Armenia and Georgia in the EU before Turkiye because it would be so funny". And honestly, that is pretty funny
@@mailio4536 Ignorant ... what was the baltics 30 years ago .. or Poland or Hungary?
So many countries have already skipped the line past turkey that it's not funny anymore imo.
If it wasn't for Russia being stupid, they probably could have worked out a deal with turkey, becoming temporary allies in order to connect the markets of China and Europe via a land route
They learned that the CSTO article 4 is not worth the paper is printed on. Europe as a Partner isn't perfect, but way better than Russia
So are we gonna pretend that expansion fatigue isnt real, that 2015 migrant crisis didn't happen and that France Netherlands and Austria haven't yet lifted expansion ban? I think there are now 6 or more states waiting EU to permit them to join in the limbo, last member was Croatia in 2013, so logical conclusion is that this is no more than an empty promise.
@@Dotalol123 if they do join it'll take many years before it actually happens
@@Dotalol123 Before you blame the EU for being too slow ..... remind me when Armenia even met merely half of the accession criteria? I must have missed it.
@@tomlxyz My point exactly, EU is not a country club, its highly regulated economic union riddled with heavy bureaucracy, for a country to join it must do extensive and very expensive reforms that are very unpopular for the citizens. Since politician job is to win elections and stay in power those reforms are in 90% half done and badly implemented examples(Romania Croatia Hungary Bulgaria) Because of this there is consensus in EU that no country will be allowed without stict evidence that reforms are implemented properly. This can create a several decade tiresome process that can be seen in Serbia, Albania, North Macedonia, Kosovo, if you think this limbo is good just feel free to visit any of these countries and see for yourself the futility of this process, its a fools errand...
What's in it for the existing members? What would we gain - other than Hungary 2.0?
Do you know that I am an Armenian and I am in favor of joining Europe because you cannot imagine what Russia has done to us and not only Russia wants to see us as part of it, but Armenia has always fought for its independence. Russia's policy should be stopped.
Россия только -за! Только перед тем, как пойдёте в Европу,не забудьте забрать всех своих соотечественников из России. Дружною толпою вперёд к светлому будущему! Мы на прощание помашем платочком. Почему-то все ваши угнетённые едут к угнетателям в Россию.🤔 Вы забыли,кто вас спас и не дал истребить окончательно. Если б не Россия, вас бы Турция давно уничтожила.
What has Russia done to Armenians (except for saving you from genocide many times)? Can you elaborate?
Россия претворился стротегическим союзником Армении боллее 25 лет, но когда Армения больше всего нуждался в помоши от России и ОДКБ , то они предали Армению. С одкб можно понять как то, но Россия за что. Зачем тогда Армении такой союзник, который подерживает врагов армении а Армению винят вовсех грехах. Армения лиш хочет зашишать свой суверенитет.@@xxxyyy8779
@@xxxyyy8779 pretended to be a savior. otherwise there would be no genocide. The whole world sees perfectly well how Russians “save” Ukrainians
We Armenians are not Europeans and survived by rejection of western poison. Armenia-First CIA Country. We used to be Christians.
Why not? It's safer than many EU member countries. Armenia is less corrupt than Hungry or Albania. The freedom of speech and press is protected. The economy is doing well despite all the obstacles. I don't understand all the passive aggressive comments comparing Armenia to African countries and Afghanistan. I think Armenia deserves to be a member country.
Just hate and lack of education
ALL THE HATE IS FROM THE AZERBAIJANI ‼️‼️ ‼️‼️ ‼️‼️ ‼️‼️
You are brainwashed if you think there is freedom of speech in EU that I live in
They are orthodox therefore aganinst (homosexuality) your first principles 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
why not? because your country goverment is goin to be used just like other EU countries and many serious properties that belong to armenians will be bought by some foreigner who can change any moment and many more schemes(like keeping weapons they dont want to store at their territory, which will create a situation for your country with a neighbor if you know what i mean) , later when you realise what happend will be late af
Many good points but press freedom is lacking? Dude Armenia ranks higher in press freedom index than Poland, Cyprus, Hungary and Slovenia, I guess the EU needs to catch up to Armenia on this one lol
Right? I don't think they were very careful when writing the script...
I like this channel but they can be so sloppy it’s embarrassing. They have no excuse for it by this point, especially if they want to be taken seriously
@@Noidonteatbabiesstopasking I agree with you. I've noticed some improvement, but the amateurish mistakes and omissions are still too prevalent for a channel that is attempting to be professional. Just a few months back, they made a video claiming that Armenia, Russia and Iran were forming an axis against Azerbaijan and Turkey - I was dumbfounded seeing that, since we were already well into the complete degradation of relations between Yerevan and Moscow that they are speaking about here.
@@adoberoots Armenia is in top 6 safest countries in the world
@@adoberoots yeh and it's funny because in reality it's Russia , Turkey and Azerbaijan are forming axis against Armenia. Yes Russis is partner for Armenia but just on the paper in reality Russia and Azerbaijan have a lot of cultural common things so.
If granted Candidate Satus, they will probably join with Georgia or after them as EU would want some connection with them first. Georgia at least has a sea connection like Cyprus.
Agreed - I would argue Georgia's stand alone membership itself would be too risky, so they would probably join together in 2030.
what about turkey, i think it would deteriorate relations with them as they have been trying to apply for so long and dont like the armenians.
and maybe after some years the break away regions of gerogia will reconsider joining geogia again after seeing prosperity with EU membership. just wishfull thinking but still
@@2909dk I personally think Turkey should join, too.
@@haykk5375 Turkey is a damned if they do damned if they dont kinda situation, very powerful and a regional power aswell as naval power, but a lot of theur values dont align and they have serious issues with greece aswell.
I wish all the best to my Armenian brothers and sisters, love and support from Tajikistan 🇹🇯 ❤🇦🇲
Maybe Tajikistan should also join EU
Don’t know if Armenia will make it over the EU line but governmental reform and changes to societal norms is a good start no matter what.
It may happen, but probably not in the next decade. In any case, Armenia's reforms have been quite effective - its democracy indicators are well above all of the current ex-USSR EU candidates (Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova), and the country also has a higher per capita GDP than all of them. If any of those three makes it, then Armenia shouldn't have much to worry about.
Agreed.
@@adoberoots Really? I'm going to look a bit into that. I was under the impression Georgia was doing the best out of the 3 Caucasus countries. 🤔
@@dyawr Yes - Georgia is the closest to Armenia, but nonetheless Armenia scores higher than Georgia in all of those categories (GDP per capita, Democracy Index, Press Freedom Index, and Human Freedom Index). [I posted this response earlier but it got removed, I'm guessing for the links, so I'm reposting it here without links but you can search for all of this on Google] Here is some data with sources for you:
[1] Per Capita GDP - *Armenia: $9,090;* Georgia: $8,570
Source: GDP Per Capita by Country - IMF World Economic Outlook, October 2023
[2] Democracy Index - *Armenia: 5.42;* Georgia: 5.20
Source: Democracy Index 2023 - EIU (The Economist Intelligence Unit)
[3] Press Freedom Index - *Armenia: 49th place;* Georgia: 77th place
Source: Reporters Without Borders - Press Freedom Index 2023
[4] Human Freedom Index - *Armenia: 33rd place;* Georgia: 42nd place
Source: The Human Freedom Index 2023 - Cato Institute
Hope this helps :)
I’m happy for Armenia 🇦🇲🇪🇺
A move that pisses off Erdogan and Aliyev is an inherently funny move
imagining Armenia ended up in EU before Turkey and keep denying Turkey's EU membership, only allow Turkey to join in exchange of Armenia's NATO membership
Lol if there is a Armenian left by that time
@@vaninhhuu3215 tbh I wouldnt want a second Orban in EU politics with turkey as a member
You’ll laugh when he ships you more migrants 😂
@@vaninhhuu3215 Doubtful if Turkey even wants to join EU in its current form and to take orders from Brussels.
Armenia in NATO? Sure, it is welcomed to join in the war effort against Russia 😊😊
Then Turkey and Azerbaijan will check out and see if there are still any Armenians left in Armenia.
I am so happy,love armenians,our peoples and countries have so similar history and faith,but Gergia must come to.Greetings,from Bulgaria,healt and happynes
I have been in Bulgaria, in Golden Sands, greetings from Armenia love you guyes))
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❤❤❤❤Tank you
The entry of Georgia and Armenia into the EU would bring the EU closer to the Asian market, which would reduce logistics costs slightly and also increase the power of the EURO currency.
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As a Russian liberal, I fully support Armenia's integration to the EU! 🇷🇺💖🇦🇲🇪🇺
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As Armenian, I think that Armenia needs to be only with Russia. There is no democracy at all in West. Everything is fake, double standards.
I’m sorry to hear you have liberal diseases,
How long you’ve been suffering with that deadly illness?
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They erased my comment lmao, RUclips you suck
the Caucasus has always been considered half European, half Asian
sort of
There is nothing European about the Caucasus
Armenia is fully in Asia.
Armenians is in middle east
@@citizenoftheworld6868 I encourage you to visit Yerevan first.
@@citizenoftheworld6868 The people and cultures share much European heritage.
I think providing Armenia with EU candidate status will help solve most of the issues mentioned. For starters it would signal that the EU is serious and Armenia could decouple faster from Russia, also it would provide the EU with leverage and Armenia with the incentive to carry out reforms at a faster pace.
Also Armenia’s press freedom ranking is above many EU nations including Cyprus, Poland and Slovenia. And its GDP per capita is slightly above other EU candidate countries such as Moldova and Georgia. By democratic indexes it is also above some EU countries such as Hungary. And although Armenia is in Asia, so is Cyprus. So all in all I think it is a good idea for both the EU and Armenia to increase ties as much as possible, if not to the extent of giving them candidate status, perhaps other measures.
@@strpet27 wait, the country of my origins gdp per capita is higher than that of Moldova and Georgia? How? You learn something new every day i guess.
And how will the EU help Armenia get back its landß
@@FilipChilyan Do some research on your country of origins more frequently then. Things are changing fast these days.
@@alexlehrersh9951 Armenia didn't lose any land and not trying to claim any. EU candidacy will provide geopolitical support and unlimited access with weapons purchases in the short term and access to a larger develop market and help with reforms in the longer term.
I think we're all agree to say that the offices of russia are not gold enough.
Turkey is European, but Armenia isn't
Turkey is Arab and asian, armenia is european in land culture and history
@@akatasakayaki1668 haha what? Turks are turkic people completely different etnic. And 5% of turkey is in europe while Armenia not even located in europe, fully in asia...
@@akatasakayaki1668 haha what?? Turks are turkic people different etnic... And 5% of turkey is in europe while armenia is not even located in europe and fully in asia...
@@akatasakayaki1668 what are you drinking?? Turks are turkic people completely different from arabs.. also 5% of turkey is in europe, armenia competely located in asia..
As an Armenian, anyone you ask here, will agree joining the eu is a good idea
You As an Armenian aren't you concerned, how Iran would react? Because I don't think they would like the idea of having a western Organization Reaching their border. And also a U-S ally.
@@MrAintGotNoBitches as an Armenian I do not think Iran would mind, what they would mind is having the Armenian lands shared with Azerbaijani, Iran won't be happy if Azerbaijan continues to demand and claim more Armenian borders and lands, this will weaken Iran's border with Armenia, both politically and historically talking, Iran and Armenia has a very strong bond since ancient times, and we both appreciate each other, not that now days Iran's politics will rejoice if Armenia enters the EU, but I do not think that would create a problem rather than a SOLUTION for Armenia's safety from Russia and Azerbaijan. And personally I think the problem is Putin and not that much Azerbaijan itself, as it is Russia that pushes Az to attack and claim Armenian lands. I hope this helps. All the best to you
@@harmony5807 Man, you are very active when it comes to videos around Armenia. And thank you for your opinion because I was just curious what Armenians think About them potentially joining the EU. But I also noticed that some Europeans fear letting Armenia join would let Iran and Turkey join. Potentially.
@@MrAintGotNoBitches 🤣that was so funny, you are right I am reactive on Arm videos, but that is personal, I am not a man but a woman if that matters🌌and I care cause I am from Armenia and that is normal as the video is talking abt my birth country. I wish You a wonderful journey of life in this inifinite dream we human call life. By the way I like your name, surname 🙏
@@harmony5807 Thank you for the nice compliments and I wish you the best in life and for the Armenian people. And also thank you, you're the 1st person complimented me on my surname
greetings to Armenians from Marseille 🎉🎉🎉
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Tg, Paris est magique!
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Armenia and Georgia should join the EU at the same time. This is the most correct option, it will also allow Europe to control the North-South land route.
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Let my man in
i want them to join
its settled then
I object to them joining (I don’t care either way, I just want political concessions)
@@mechaleonidas207 haahaha the first and biggest step is already done then
It could be risky, considering the political instability that comes with living next to Russia.
Pachi called it we have no choice for them to join then
Man, I'm half asleep and misread the title as "America" instead of Armenia and was very confused (and amused) for about 3 seconds there.
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The United States wouldn't qualify for the EU even if it was in Europe.
It would need to get rid of the death penalty and it seems that
a lot of Republicans and some Democrats love the death penalty,
possibly because they see executing people as part of their fundamentalist "Christian" ideology.
As well the United States shouldn't qualify because it's not really a full fledged democracy.
If it gets rid of voter suppression, gerrymandering, the electoral college, the absurd policy of having two senators for every state and having partisan state party members run elections differently in every state and gave full control of federal elections to an unbiased, neutral election commission using standard rules everywhere in the country then it might qualify but those things are very unlikely to all happen within a century.
Also, if members of the EU are nervous about a country as big as Turkey joining the EU then they will also be nervous about having a huge country with a huge economy such as the United States join. I'm sure they would worry about some European industries being wiped out by American competition.
"I will build, a great wall, and make Europe GREAT AGAAAAIN!!"
-Trump probably in an alternative universe
@@Masterlewger Well he's pretty late to the party, the communists already tried that whole "big wall in Europe" thing before and we all know how that went. XD
@@free4fire keeping people out vs keeping people in
Thanks!
Historically, Armenia had close relations with Rome.
Armenia were the part of byzantine empire itself, the first christian country, and christianity is the backbone of european culture and shaped the europe to what it is today.
@sevakyeritsian9644 modern EU is largely secular and values freedom of all religions.
@@plainText384 Maybe that is why people lost their morals
@ArevikArmenakyan the EU is much more moral than what came before (facist dictatorships, various empires and monarchies, etc.). Really, Europe is the most moral it has ever been.
@@plainText384 Your point seems to lean towards peace rather than morality, which aren't exactly the same. Sure, Europe has moved away from its history of dictatorships and empires, but that doesn't automatically make it the moral high ground. Look at what's happening today - sexual violence on European streets is becoming normalized, some people are embracing made-up pronouns, parents are taking kids to strip clubs, and anyone who speaks out is labeled discriminatory. Tolerance is important, but it shouldn't excuse moral decay.
I hope we could be candidate this year!
Just be smart. You guys are playing a dangerous game. Don't let emotion put you in a bad situation.
@@EuroMaidanWasAnInsurrection Dangerous in what sense? Armenia needs to join forces with the civilized world that recognize its sovereignty, unlike Russia. Standing alone in this turbulent geo-political world is more dangerous.
@@haykk5375 Switzerland stands alone. They seem fine. It's not up to me. I'm American. It's up to the Armenians and the rest of the EU. Just make sure you never ask us Americans to bail you out for your choices like Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan seem to do. I'm voting against helping any country not named America.
@@EuroMaidanWasAnInsurrection thanks)
@@EuroMaidanWasAnInsurrection Switzerland can stand alone because all their neighbours are friendly but its harder to negotiate with Azerbaijan .Switzerland had a hard time convincing Germany to not attack in ww2
If we use the word "Geographically" it means we use "Geography" to describe something, and "Geographically" there is no separate continent of Europe, why? Because continents are divided according to major tectonic plates and there is no separate European tectonic plate, purely "Geographically" there exists the Eurasian continent.
The true division of Europe and Asia is not geographic, it is subcontinental at best and that's also as arbitrary as it can get, otherwise, it is mostly political, geopolitical, and cultural/historical/religious.
Both Georgia and Armenia are European because they are 2 of the most ancient Christian countries in the world, even if you forget religion and don't pay attention to it (even though Christianity today is largely European religion) it is actually not about religion at all, but whatever culture it brings, Protestant, Catholic, or Orthodox doesn't matter as some of the major things for all Christians is the same, thus the closest people for Georgians and Armenians are Europeans.
Now historically, Georgia and Armenia even though both struggled like nobody else on this planet, still have vastly different histories, Armenia peaked very early, while Georgia peaked in the Middle Ages, both followed feudalistic rule that is exclusively European type of ruling. Due to the coast, Georgia had very early influence from ancient Greeks and much better relations with the Roman Republic and later the Roman Empire, during the Byzantine times relations were changing, but it was the same sphere of influence and Armenians had a significant population in Anatolia too.
This narrative of "Oh, they're not Europe" is pretty dumb, whoever mentions this can be labeled as an idiot, cause they know nothing about geography, history, religion, cultures, politics, geopolitics, and so on.
One thing though which is geographic and it won't go away is that Armenia has no sea coast unlike Georgia or Cyprus, I don't see it ever becoming a member until Georgia becomes a member and good for them as even though Georgia struggles right now it is still much closer to the EU.
Continents being divided based on tectonic plates is nothing but an opinion, not a fact, and some people shouldn't talk as if it was a fact. There's no consensus on what defines a continent
Continents are not defined by plate tectonics. Otherwise India, Arabia, etc. Would be their own continents.
Also, while Christianity is fairly widespread in Europe and the Vatican is in Europe, Christianity is not a European religion. In 2010 only about 1/4 of Christians lived in Europe, with about as many living in Africa and significantly more living in the America's.
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I hope they do!
I, as an Armenian, dream of the day when Armenia will become one of the members of the big family of the European Union. I pray every day that Armenia breaks off relations with Russia. With Putin, it is Russia that always persecutes neighboring states so that they are at enmity with Armenia in order to remain in the Caucasus I hope that the Europeans will help Armenia get out of Russian captivity, I hope that they will help our Favorite example, Minister Nikol Pashinyan and the Armenian people
Hm, now I have to read up on Morocco‘s application . Including northafrica probably gives the option of „Roman Empire“ somewhere
More like a Roman Republic.
What were you talking about in second sentence?
Did North African nations want to join due to Roman Empire history or what?
@danielsurvivor1372 he's talking about the historical ties. North Africa was part of the Roman Empire, that's where it's connected to the rest of Europe
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@@DefnitelyNotFred it is usual option in many games to recreate the Roman Empire, especially paradox games
As a turkish, i think it will be a good opportunity for young armenians (about jobs or education) and i also believe that armenians easily integrate to europe society. So.. it is a good choice for them.
But, there is russia you know. membership of armenia and also georgia may cause russia to become even more aggressive. It may even cause russia to attack these countries. I'm not sure if eu membership worth the risk.
In every way, i wish the best for armenians.
As an Armenian I do not think personally I want my country to join Eu, I would rather appreciate removing Russian army, being removed from Putin dictatorship and aggresivity, and rather have a PEACE with Azerbaijan,( Russia pushes Azerbaijan to attack and claim more Armenian lands, the problem is Russia's government) and open border with Turkey so the young people of Armenia and Turkey can get to know each other, start to appreciate more and stabilize normalize the relationship both politically, economically and culturally then being a part of Eu, I am not desperate, unless that is the last solution for Armenia to have peace and safety over Russia and Azerbaijan then I would agree. With love to you and Turkish people from Armenia💜🪐🙏
@@harmony5807 all you said are exactly my thoughts. we should be together, we have to trust each other(this hate has to end) and only this way we can protect ourselves from outside. I hope we all see these days in our short lives. Lots of love to you all💙
@@harmony5807Based armenian.
Armenian education is on a surprisingly high level. Got my PhD in Switzerland easily just having Armenian school education. Lvl of knowledge and analysis in European schools/universities is pretty low by our standards. So, I wouldn't like to adopt European education. Jobs? Yeah. Economics? Certainly. Weapons and technology? Sure. But not education.
Russia is a wild dog. It will keep on being aggressive if it wants to.
@@alittlestoryy there is no correlations between what I said and between what you are saying. I already wrote down that we need weapons and technology. Most likely you replied to a wrong person or misunderstood the essential of the message.
Let them in, I want cheaper Armenian cognac!
ahahaha yes they have great cognac, i was there at one several years ago
😂yes and lavash bread everywhere in Europe 😊
@@user-ym4go7ig3q nasty shit
This is also the right moment to be creative and bold enough to find new pathways towards stronger bilateral relations with other members of the Eurasian economic union, including with pro-liberal and democratic civil society actors in Russia and Belarus. Isolating Putin and weakening his czarist-like idea of an imperialist Russia must be a key objective for all Europeans.
Not a big fan of Putin but if Russia and Belarus are weakened, no prizes for guessing how the inner Eurasian zone will become. 😊😊
Hopefully the US can get out of NATO. Europeans are way too focused on Russia, it's clear the world has moved on from Russia since the end of the cold war. Europeans just want to follow Russia into irrelevance.
@@jmhorange are you trying to kill people with nonsensical comments?
This would be one of the best strategic moves Europe could do. It would be standing up against two hostile acting dictators at the same time; Putin and Erdogan.
The West has a history of using Turkey to counter Russia. So Erdogan has little to worry.
And the autocratic Shah of Iran too
Armenia is entirely in Asia it shouldn’t be allowed
@@varaneckas1994 I think Europeans should be allowed to define for themselves who they want in European community or not, not some ASD geography geeks obsessed with arbritary lines drawn on maps centuries ago.
Idk if involvement in the affairs of the region while not having your own comprehensive and united foreign policy is a good idea
This might sound crazy, because believe it or not, EU can piss of 3 dictators with a single decision lol
Aliyev wants his “west Azerbaijan back” erdogan is not trying piss himself when too many people are saying that the Armenian genocide happened and Iran just wants Azerbaijan back, it’s that simple
As a Swede, I would support em joining purely for the sake of them joining before Turkey.
No rush, Turkey will not be joining anytime soon anyway I am sure if it took Armenia 50 years they would still join before Turkey.
I think all those t** rr organizations joined sweden. Sweden is going to join t**rr union sooner than Turkey joining EU...
Turkey will never join the EU. There are many reason why that would be bad for the EU. And then there is Greece.
As a Turk, I would support em joining purely for the sake of them joining before Türkiye.
Armenia is between rock and the hard place, Russia in the north Azerbaijan and Turkey in the west, they don't have a single ally in 2000km around them, not a fun place to be tbh, i wouldn't bet on them...
Spiritually and culturally, Armenia is part of Europe, this Christian country has had close contacts with ancient Rome and Byzantium since time immemorial...
It seems to me that sooner or later Armenia should become part of the European Union
good detailed video i enjoyed this. Welcome to the European Union Armenia
Georgia would have to join together with Armenia, otherwise it would be an isolated landlocked country joining EU.
Georgia is already a candidate and they will likely join together.
It wouldn't be the first time an EU member doesn't have a border with another member.
Go Armenia 🇦🇲, I want them to join. From Romania 🇷🇴.
no thank you. Let us first deal with the Romani beggars from Romania and Bulgaria in the street of EU first.
EU won’t exist soon, what are you on about
@@kiz11a what a dumb statement
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Excellent and informative video! Armenia will join the EU one day! 🇦🇲🇪🇺 Armenia is culturally, historically, linguistically, and politically as European as any other European country! Love from Brussels, Europeans will welcome you back home to the Pan-European family once you break free from Russian colonial rule ❤
I'm from Russia, I am for Russia without Putin. I love Armenia🇦🇲❤️, Armenia is a very free country, but Putin wants Armenia to obey his rules, I am definitely against it
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Love Armenia 🇦🇲 from Africa
Africa is not a country😂
@@arkangel2000 I know that we African have 54 countries. You seem like jealous that because i love Armenia 🇦🇲 🫤🫤 you may be from Azerbaijan or Turkey those two countries hate Christians that much 😤😤
@@BsG-np9kq Azerbaijan is a post-Soviet country and one of the most secular states in the world. Azerbaijan does not care about this topic.
@@BsG-np9kq😂idiot
LET ARMENIA JOIN THE EU!
Go Armenia! heres hoping to a new bright future ahead for this troubled land
They reap what they sow, they must be held to account for their crimes at international courts
@@JN-wr9he😂sure just like turkey in the armenian genocide. Also, what about baku and sumgait pogroms 😅yeah think b4 you make your Muslim Ass.sound stupid
@@JN-wr9hecrimes? I won’t talk about Armenian genocide and Azerbaijan bombing Armenia
@@Armenian_mapping talk about tens of thousands of azerbaijanis killed by armenians and hundreds of thousands ethnically cleansed
@@Armenian_mapping In 2020, Armenia bombed Ganja, Terter, the capital of Azerbaijan Baku and many other cities. I come from Karabakh, from which you kicked me out 30 years ago, for 30 years you have not surrendered a single district. But you knew that only Khankendi and the surrounding area were inhabited by Hays (Armenians), and in the other 7 districts there were Azerbaijanis, whom you drove barefoot into the cold. After 30 years, we have returned our rightful lands, and I can return to my homeland.
“That's a great plan, Walter. That's f***in' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss f***in' watch”
As an Armenian, this is a brilliant and balanced explanation of the situation.
I would also add that in its recent resolution, the EU has finally openly condemned the ethnic cleansing in Nagorno Karabakh (Artsakh), underlined the right to return of the Armenians of Artsakh and slammed EU representatives (such as Charles Michel) for publicly praising and congratulating Baku's Dictator, Ilham Aliyev. for his recent fraudulent "re-election".
UN raports says there is no ethnic cleansing in Karabagh. Maybe fascist war mongering france decleard some raports but who takes them serious ? Ethnic cleansing azerbaijanies in Khojali genocide is another story...
No big fan of Aliyev but do you really think the EU will help Armenia to counter Turkey and Azerbaijan?
I believe you understand the history better than me. Therefore I shall not elaborate. 😊😊
They condemned but did nothing,while at same time recognised Kosovo while Nagorno Karabakh is same as Kosovo
@@tekinfomedi Armenia doesn't need the EU to "counter" anyone. It can fund its own weapons purchases and security. Armenia needs geopolitical support from countries who support global order unlike Russia, who doesn't recognize its sovereignty.
What ethnic cleansing?
they should do it for the sole purpose of adding another alphabet to the euro notes
Armenians have contributed hugely to arts, entertainment, and all of the STEM fields.
Gorky, surrealism, reddit, MRI, atm, color television, mRNA vaccines, mig jets, cancer therapy, las Vegas, MGM, cement trucks, they saved the West during WW2, aznavour, and so so much more.
Imagine what a wonderful, contributive country Armenia would be if just given a break.
Ever since the Roman empire countries have feared what Armenia could become, but there is no malice in the Armenian culture. The EU has a real chance here to strengthen the world by allowing a prosperous Armenia, but they have to act fast
Armenia is surrounded by alla countries. it wants to be part of the West not some backward civilization. Also it doesn't want to be close to Russia either.
Thats a pretty racist comment. Do you know anything about cultures surrounding Armenia? Stop using a Roman picture and embarrass us.
@@MarkhasSteelfort Armenia is surrounded by barbarity and savagery - Chechen Republic full of alla warriors, Azerbaijan that invaded part of it, Turkey that committed genocide against Armenians. Great company that is not racist to them at all.
@artifexdei3671 What is is alla country? Also, Armenia shouldn't have dreamt of a greater Armenia and betray the empire trusting the Russians. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Lets not forget they have killed a lot of Turks and Kurds too.
Armenia is in the border of Europe, and just outside, yes... but that's "just" geography. If science and reason ruled the world we wouldn't have this kind of problems in the first place.
As an Armenian, I am pushing for my government to make this historic move.
The problem is that the government is full of ex-regime members, overt or covert. Since its independence no Armenian leader was truly pro Western, those who decided to look towards the West were killed in the October 27th parliament attack in 1999. An attack that many respected experts in Armenia belive has Russian fingerprints on it.
Basically any government that wants to finally break free from thr Russian shackles has to fight 30 years of institutional and business ties, and mindsets, not an easy task considering that Russia is using neighboring Azerbaijan's oil dictator Aliyev as a blunt tool against Armenia. With every pro EU move, Aliyev ramps up new territorial demands and threatens war. However it seems that the public demand for change is too big to be silenced by threats and coercion.
Also, Armenia isn't in West Asia, it's in Euro Asia, and is a member of other European organizations.
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Nicely presented and informative, thank you.
I would only just like to suggest responding to those ignorant comments by showing them the geologic map of Europe, whose border with the Asiatic plates passes through the Paleoasian Suture, which coincides with the *LESSER* Caucasus Mountain Range, thus leaving much of the South Caucasus within Europe.
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Even if Armenia will never join the EU, the progress that will be achieved to be able to theoretically join. Will be a big step forward for the country and it's citizens.
Keep dreaming
no country will be allowed to join the EU before Eu have had some major reformation with the veto-rule. France and other countries have said so.
there's plenty of time for that.
- first Armenia has to formally ask the EU if they may start the joining process.
- then every EU member has to grant that status.
- then Armenia has to comply to the Copenhagen criteria
- and then every member has to finally accept them as a new member.
and all those steps will take a lot of time. probably at least 15 years.
(if Russia doesn't decide to invade them next)
Agreed, Democracy is supposed to be about a majority winning, not a 100% vote thingy
@@Masterlewger yes and the entire union should not be held hostage by one country.
It’s just ridiculous. Every poor country wants to join the EU. Why do we have to let it and grt embroiled in their troubles?! They don’t help us.
@@TheBooban because in the long run even those "poor" places will strengthen the (European) Union. more citizens means more power on the world stage.
and the EU needs that power to stay sovereign instead of becoming a vassal of the US, Russia or China.
and with time those "poor" nations can and will become better. both for their citizens (quality of living etc) and as a member of the Union.
look at Poland, when they became part of the Union they were decades behind (North-Western) Europe, and now they are on track to become a better place to be than the UK (if the current trend continues for the next 15 to 20 years).
that shows that sometimes the richer members have to support the less well of nations to strengthen/benefit the whole Union.
it will take money and effort, but in time those nations become assets to the Union.
Wasn't this same video released last week on TLDR Daily 🤔🤔
Never!
Georgia and Armenia should enter the European Union together. Imagine how much anger that would generate in Moscow, Ankara and Baku.
And the European Union would get two new alphabets and a strong foothold in the Caucasus.
The goal is not to anger anyone but these countries aligning with the civilization they identify with.
@@haykk5375 Yes, but Turkey and Russia certainly wouldn't be happy about it.
Keep alienating people, keep causing chaos, keep sowing hatred and you shall reap what you sow, European.
@@MegaGigaPetarD would Iran, an ally of Armenia, be happy?)
@@user-fh9zz5kv3p Iran won't be thrilled about that, that's for sure.
Why don't you put subtitles?
Do it
Well the culture is European so why not...
No it's not
@@gusgrow9768 Yes it is
@@gusgrow9768 they're Christian to begin with...
So is Russia's. That's obviously not a very strong argument in itself.
@@Theorimlig at least we got some kind of democracy for now unlike russia
Good luck to Armenia from Russia! 🍀
Same (I'm Russian too) 🇷🇺🤝🏻🇦🇲🇪🇺
Thank you, hopefully someday we can live without war or a risk of war, although Russia’s elite was always aggressive towards smaller countries, our people go well togheter,
they hate democracies those dictator countries azer turk russia
@vladimirputin check it out
Sounds ironic :)
Even if Armenia doesn't end up joining the EU, they are still open for stronger French ties between governments which comes with the benefit of being western aligned nation.
Yea yea. Warm 🍑 frenchs
Then they should be careful about the French as they love to milk nations for their resources.
Keep dreaming
You should do a video about Cape Verde wanting to join EU. It was a thing years ago, but I don't know if they still want.
They are African. Wouldn't make much sense...
Why not do it yourself, instead of telling others what they "should" do.
@@usernamename2978It's just a suggestion since the channel is (clearly capable of) producing a lot of content.
Cabo Verde should join as well. Strong cultural ties to Europe, part of the same greater archipelago as the Canary Islands & Madeira (Macaronesia) and since they're islands, we don't have immigration issues.
let them in and let Mali in too .
While it is a little bit of a stretch, I think you could make a case that Armenia is also a borderland country of the 'European' continent.... Historically there's been many lines drawn near or even through its current territory as the continental divide, and it is west of the Urals. Ultimately, who is the arbiter of such things anyhow?
I would strongly support this application. A candidate status doesn't equate a membership (See Turkey or Serbia) but can have positive value on their democracies and rule of law (North Macedonia, Albania...). A join accession with Georgia would be beautiful and the best duck you to Putin, if he is still alive by the time this would happen (10-15 years at best). Also, geographically Europe means nothing, Europe is more cultural and politics. You don't use any mountain chains to separate continents so using the Caucasus and the Urals mountains always felt weird to me.
The EU doesn't take geography into account, otherwise Cyprus in Asia wouldn't be a member
North Macedonia, Albania Georgia and Armenia such a great combination of based countries that will make the eu great again
@@belstar1128to make EU great again, it doesn’t matter who joins, but the change of the fossilised old mentality of Western Europe. After the fall of the Steel Curtain, they were so full of themselves, that even 30 years later they still live in the 90'. China is not in famine anymore, Russia is not devastated anymore, EU doesn’t have a privileged status in Africa anymore, and east Europe is not the poor Cousin from the village anymore. If EU can’t absorb small nations like Albania, Montenegro or N.Macedonia, than it is shameful to act as a great player in the world stage.
@@Masquerade456I mean it's not entirely true, because obviously, Central Asian countries like Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, some Middle Eastern countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran can't join, but every country in EU is European, Cyprus is located in Asia, but still is in the proximity of Europe, and they are culturally european
@@Masquerade456 The copenhagen criteria require the applicant to be European - either geographically, culturally or politically. So geography does matter, but it isn't an exclusive requirement.
Armenia should join ,Great idea.
I didn't know this was a divisive thing, I always think of the US where Armenian's are treated as just another branch of Eastern Europeans, I guess because they're Christian and linked historically to Russia
I don't think Armenians are treated like Eastern Europeans.
It's really not. Erdoghan funded troll farms spread propaganda to undermine Armenia's efforts.
3:39 the information is delivered incorrectly!
Not only the PM but every smart Armenian wants to join the EU. And roughly saying 80% of us want this to happen
Thanks everyone who supports our membership. ❤
Much love to Armenia From Georgia . 🇬🇪🇦🇲🇦🇲🇬🇪 Armenia is the father of christian countries becouse it the first Christian country in the world.
Thank you. We have to be together against Russia.
We are all getting to see what a diplomatic move looks like when it's 3 decades late
Mayotte, French Guiana, Ceuta, etc are already in the EU, albeit because they are foreign departments of states already inside the union. I guess the question is more about shared values and culture than geography.
imagine turkey, ukraine, georgia and armenia joined. russia would have basically to coats at eu-lakes😂
Turkey's EU joining plan has been floating around for years.
Turkey will never join
@@tekinfomedisuspended as there is less than zero chance they will join. It was a joke they were ever offered a candidate status
@@tnickknight yeah i dont understand why our government applied for it in the first place.Most people i know dont consider themselves european
@@tekinfomedi we cant join unless we get rid of this authoritarian regime
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Scotland has a better chance ...
Armenia has strong support from France & Greece, without noone really having a problem with it in the EU. Armenia got all its chances if it manages to avoid conflict.
@@SchusT45, hungry will not allow
Yes, Scotland has a much better chance
Scotland already had a chance. They said no to independence from London back in 2014 only to be forced out of the EU against its will and sink with the Brexit ship. In order for Scotland to become an EU member again it has to be an independent state, but that won't happen any time soon.
scotland is scammed by the UK unfortunately , you have the gas and oil and the land mass and people that is a treasure for them, it will be not easy but maybe if you have a real leader you can do it !
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Another thing why the EU needs Caucasus and especially, Georgia as it has a sea coast and connection with the EU states is that the EU is heavily dependent on others, some EU countries were heavily dependent on Russia a few years ago, some are dependent on African countries, some imports also go through Turkey.
The thing is that you can never trust Russia, any type of dependence on Russia is a tool in their hands to punish you. African countries are heavily influenced by Russia and China lately, they're thrown into economic black hole by China and sooner or later they'll be in huge debt, increasing Chinese influence and control. Turkey is historically a geopolitical "player" like literally a player of many sides, they drift around and choose with whom to side, even today they seemingly are on Ukraine's side, but some shady things happen. I also believe Turkey will never become an EU member and it has nothing to do with Islam or geography, Turkey is simply too big both as an economy and population and it'll significantly shift power balance in the EU that Germany and France will never want, while Georgia and Armenia are small and can't do something like that.
The only other way for the EU to get imports from Asia, including some necessary resources are through the Caucasus and Georgia's sea coast. Even better if the EU contacts Central Asian countries that have shit ton of resources and instead of further strengthening big boys in the region the EU pays for resources to Central Asian countries, this is the best outcome for the EU in many ways, as the EU gets way cheaper resources and it can't be used as a tool against the EU and at the same time they'll strengthen Central Asian countries that are contested lands between China and Russia.
I mean, you just name a resource and Central Asian countries have it, gas, oil, uranium? Azerbaijan if democratized also has shit ton of resources, Georgia if properly developed can generate incredible amount of electricity in hell of a lot of "green" ways.
It is a good thing for Europe that Turkiye has large lands, a large population and a large economy. But as you said, in such a situation, France and Germany, which are leaders in European politics, will not be happy with us Turks coming and getting ahead of them. This unity is not possible, especially with the increasing conservatism and fascism in Europe. It is not a problem for us, but what will happen if this attitude of Europe does not change and relations between Turkiye and Russia increase? Will they beg America to "help us"? This is not a threat, just the passengers on the ship named 'Europe' will watch their captains (Germany and France) sink the ship.
Just two cents, European and Asian continent are the same, Eurasia.... (Minus Indian sub continent and Arabian Peninsula).
Exactly, Europe is a political definition, not geographic.
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No it won’t, it’s too vulnerable.
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I'm surprised so many people think they can't join because it isn't Europe. The Southern Caucasus is the border between Asia and Europe, sometimes considerd European, sometimes Asian. Countries like Israel, Lebanon or Iran are definitely in Asia and won't ever join but Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan could be considerd as European countries and could therefore join the EU.
I mean 10-15 years ago Turkey being in "Asia" was a problem for the EU.
Of course, current problems are mostly Erdogan and democracy in Turkey, but still.
Armenia is not located in Europe. Both Georgia and Azerbaijan are partly in Europe.
But I don't think this is a deal breaker for them joining EU. I'm sure the EU would love a (future) country like Greenland to join them.
Cypress is technically (geographically speaking) also not in Europe.
@@fastertove Taiwan is more European than Armenia. been to both.
@@berkekadircelik6282Being Asian was never the problem with Turkish accession.
@@koenkoen1270 These European Supremacist would allow israel into EU too, as the Zionist Settlers are mostly from Europe. Then they will Fully Support Occupation of Palestine.
Georgia needs to join first.
why ? in reality Armenia is European country by history and culture and considered by world history as one of the countries who made european democracy, but Georgia NOT. In Reality Europe admits Georgia just because of Armenia
Do you even understand what kind of stupidity you said?@@user-ym4go7ig3q
Both at the same time would be best.
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@@user-ym4go7ig3qHow Armenia join EU without Georgia? Did you really think Armenia join without Georgia it means you don't know geography 😉
As an armenian i say be open with everyone.
If you look at this from a military point of view this is pretty bad for Russia Georgia already want to join nato and eu now Armenia wants to join the eu Russia invading Ukraine was a big mistake from geopolitical standpoint
I think Armenia deserves being in EU, considering how bad they have been treated in history and how defiant they are, true european nation outside of europe
No, it's Asian.
I'm not in principle opposed to Armenian membership, but that argument makes no sense. Lots of nations around the world have been treated badly and shown defiance, what does that have to do with being European?
this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard
So Europeans should pick up struggling random states in the Caucasus and be expected to bankroll them because they are "defiant" lmao? - try selling that to the people
@@HeadsFullOfEyeballsbecause Europeans have been abused the most especially in the modern century.
I think the EU needs to make a choice first. Is it a supranational organisation or a country? I think it is wise to make it a (very diverse) country, seeing what happens in Russia, China and the USA.
Right now there appear to be lots of EU-lovers who want the United States of Europe or the Euro-soviet.
The extent of interest in a Brussels central gov seems strong.
There is already talk of an EU army.
Then need to have same langue ,official langue in Yugoslavia was Serbo-Croatia and everyone knowed that langue and still fall apart ,when i am in Italy 99% public workers dont speak 1 word in English and expect for you to know Italian
@@dzonikg These numbers look quite a bit better for young Europeans, so I think there's hope. France needs to swallow its pride and let English be the sole lingua franca (hah) of the EU.
European federalism is growing
@@dzonikg I don't think it's strictly necessary. Both India and Canada hold together despite having more than one official language. It is of course on a whole different level in the EU with our 24 official languages, but I still think this isn't a prerequisite or even necessarily a goal.
Armenia should join EU just because the prices in Armenia are way higher than in EU itself...
First, Armenia has to get into NATO to even be considered to apply for EU membership. First is security, second is social-economic stuff. I'm hard to believe that for Armenia will be easy to get into NATO, considering there's Turkiye. And even it will be in NATO, it will be much harder to get into EU, just look at Albania and N. Macedonia. Getting into EU, is not a formal alliance like Euro-Asian union of Russia. To be in EU, it will mean, that billions of euro will be poured into the Armenian economy. But for this, Armenia has to solve all the issues, I'm doubt that this country has no corruption issues. Corruption is a barrier many countries had in their journey to EU. EU won't give those huge money for investments if those money will not be used for real for the whole population.
Eu membership has nothing to do with NATO membership
@@user-gd2rg8xg2y I wouldn't say nothing, but they are separate organizations, yes.
Bulgaria joined EU in 2004 and is more corrupt even then Russia
@@user-gd2rg8xg2y It definitely has, especially in the eastern Europe. For Rep of Ireland it doesn't. All the countries of Eastern Europe that went into EU, at first entered NATO. Poland, Czech Rep, Romania, Bulgaria, Baltic states etc. You've got to secure yourself before thinking of EU. Keep in mind that EU has to make investments in the countries newly admitted, you cannot risk to do this, in a country with high security risk. Finland is another example that entered EU from very begin and only recently entered NATO.
@republicofhandball8815 this is factually incorrect for one simple reason, no where in the eastern european enlargement process was NATO membership even remotely mentioned. How do you explain Cyprus and Malta joining the eu during the eastern enlargement and not being NATO membesr? The EU and NATO are two completely separate institutions. Besides the future of the EU is to develop its own unified military command and enforce greater joint security measures, this will inevitably replace NATO and solve the issue of Turkey being a threat to Europe, which it is.
Really? That would be wonderful if they started the accession process!! Wow, we mai finally have a more united Europe after all. The Caucasus is Europe too, this may finally mark a shift in global mentality & lift this region out of more or less anonimity & a geopolitical grey zone...
I was actually hoping for Armenia's reorientation ever since the Karabakh conflict & Russia's *disastrous* absent handling of it...
Russia was the main mastermind behind Nagorno Karabakh war in 2020. It was testing waters for Ukraine invasion and selling out Armenia to get Turkish support later.
Russia didn’t have to do anything. Legally, even Armenia didn’t recognise Karabakh as a part of Armenia. The western stooge Pashinyan just surrendered Karabakh to Azerbaijan, as was his plan all along, and conveniently blamed Russia for it allowing him to push the western agenda through.
EU has been meddling in Armenia's internal affairs since they became independent. EU could not care less about Armenians, they need the land to meddle from there in Rusia and Iran.
Armenia joining EU will benefit and help them in more ways.
You mean like how it benefited Greece(?)
As a Hungarian, I say Yes! I'd like to see Armenia join the EU!
Glad to hear that
Respect from an Armenian 🙏🏼
Hungary + Armenia will make the eu great again
As much as I'd love Armenia to join the EU, fact of the matter is, it's just not happening unless Georgia also joins and subsequently creates a semblance of a maritime bridge between them and the rest of the Union through the Black Sea -- and even then, I don't even know if Georgia even has a genuine maritime border with Romania/Bulgaria thanks to the Russia/Turkey sandwich in there, so it's likely still flimsy at best.
I agree that Georgia and Armenia should join together. All Black Sea countries have unhindered access to it for communications, so it would be a direct link to the EU for both countries.
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The thing about the Black Sea access is I don't just mean communications, but transportation too; the Schengen treaties are among the most important aspects of the European Union, and the only EU country that isn't part of it, Ireland, is only as such because they chose to opt-out, not because they were denied it.
@@Brown95P Transportation is included in communications. E.g. you can directly ship cargo from Constanța, Romania or Burgas, Bulgaria to Poti, Georgia.
Georgia will be the bridge and join at the same time.
I’m glad to see they’re taking measures to break away from Russia, however I doubt they’re anywhere close to joining the EU. As for the EU, it still has its own internal problems, so bringing in Armenia would cause further issues. Also, I think the EU should somehow prioritise bringing in the Balkan states as it would make much more sense.
If Armenia breaks away from Russia, Iran will be added to the list of enemies.
Armenia will cease to exist regardless of it's relations with Turkey
Armenia wouldn’t be the first non-European country in the EU. Cyprus is also a non-European member.
But, Greeks are Europeans
@@FalconfromRF Ok? Cyprus still isn't in Europe. They're separated by Anatolia.
Time to rename the EU the World Union if this keeps up
Does the EU have tiers? That could be a very interesting possibility for Northern Africa, Turkey, and further East. We want to both benefit from lack of trade barriers, while maintaining our identities.
It doesn't have tiers, no.
@@HeadsFullOfEyeballsIt sort of is, but tiers need more refining as Macron pointed out regarding the veto power recently.
I am all for it! RuZZia proved to be an unreliable partner. All they had to do was defend a thin corridor and they couldn't even do that!
Armenia is a part of Europe in every sense of the word except for MAYBE geography (South Caucasus could be defined as Europe as well). Armenia has always been part of the broader European Christian civilization group, being intimately connected with the Byzantine sphere and so on. Geography isn't everything. Like with Georgia, they are european christian outposts outside of traditional Europe. Unlike Turkey, which while holding a part of geographic Europe, are certainly not a part of the European civilization.
saying European civilization is crazy
Western Europe was always ready to sell its "outposts" to Muslim rule, lol. Culturally Eastern Christian people who are praising the west are either suffering from childish naivety either they have an open desire to subvert it's own culture.
@@siyacerEurope largely shared a civilization. They may have fought wars against each other but shared the same religion, same political structures, and the ruling families all came from all over Europe, most of the rulers weren't from the country they ruled.
We are Europeans, we have a civilization, arguably the most influential one, cope.@@siyacer
@@BeerHero667 who is "we"? I have no interest in the words of the Yakubian ape.