CLARIFICATION: At 1:22 in this video, we say that Sweden had the most left-leaning results of any EU country. This is true, but it was equalled by Portugal, which also gave 10 out of 21 seats to left-wing and far-left parties. Eight seats went to the Partido Socialista (which sits in the EU's Socialists & Democrats bloc), one seat went to the Bloco de Esquerda (which sits in the EU's Left bloc), and one seat went to the Unitary Democratic Coalition (which also sits in the EU's Left bloc). Thanks for watching!
4:09 Riikka Purra's name was misspelled. The double consonants are very important in Finnish pronunciation (you can try this by setting google translate's language to Finnish and put the variations there). Also, 6:14, might have been very illustrative to point out that Anderson got 13.5% of the popular vote, so she alone could technically be 3rd largest party in these elections. Or in other words... it wasn't that the "green/left" was doing quite well in these elections (the green party actually went down for 4.7 percentage points from last elections), but Anderson herself did phenomenally well.
since the 20th century political science and reality says it does not make sense at al to have a one dimensional definition of politics. At least 2 dimensional is the norm. Everyone including politics and media fails to recognise this and reduces the political discourse into two vague words that mean different things every 50 years.
We are in the EEA / EFTA which is worse, since we are forced to follow EU laws, but we have no voting rights. And the worst part is that the deal was signed even though the majority of the country said no to joining the EU.
@@m4rt_ Being an EFTA country means that you’re a part of the EEA agreement, which gives your country access to the single market. The only laws you must integrate into the EEA agreement are the ones that affect the single market, i.e. affects your economy positively. The rest you don’t have to care about. A lot of people would probably consider that a great thing and not a worse version of being in the EU. You get all the significant benefits without having to do as much as other countries.
@@m4rt_ There are many EU laws we don't need to follow because we aren't fully in the EU, so the EEA is the best of both worlds. Norway in the EU would be disastrous for our sovereignty and our farmers
I'm Swedish and I think your analysis is accurate. Well done! However, I might add that historically there has only been a weak correlation between results in the EU-elections and in the elections for our national parliament. In our national elections there is often a fair amount of tactical voting.
Small Note, the only party in Sweden which actually lost a mandate was the Christian Democrats (KD), meanwhile the Left Party (V) gained a seat, so overall the mandates didn't change dramatically.
The nationalists of nordics tend to be pretty anti-eu, the voters more so than the parties themselves, and thus as some sort of protest they tend to not vote in EU elections.
In Finland, for example, the "nationalist" Finns party watered down their anti-EU rhetoric and goals quite a lot for this election, and also kept going along with the elite's very aggressive anti-Russia rhetoric while having been critical of NATO for many years before. Predictably, this alienated much of their voter base and they took a massive loss.
@@hyhhy The Sweden Democrats also toned down their anti-EU rhetoric, to the point where they're officially not even against EU membership anymore. Which I find hilarious because the party leader Jimmie Åkesson claims SD's stance on the EU was the main reason he joined the pretty openly racist party in 1995.
Sweden also had a huge 'strong candidate effect' in jonas sjöstedt who was previously the leader of the left party, and who always polled ridiculously well
Finland had basically the exact same thing with Li Andersson (who is a Swedish-speaker by the way). But people did not choose to vote for these leftist leaders so much just because they're "cool" or "smart" people.
He is also the only representative from the north, a region that has been historically very underrepresented in Swedish politics. Might explain why Jonas’ Left Party almost got as many votes over here as the Social Democrats.
You can probably say the same about the Christian party with Alice Teodorescu Måwe. They were so close to fall below the bar of entry and i firmly think she had enough "pull factor" to keep them in there. I don't really like her very much but she's rather popular on the right, probably popular enough to steal some votes from other parties mainly the Sweden Democrats.
In Finland, right-wing voters were not as invested in the election as leftists, and the Left Alliance leader Andersson is extremely popular, getting nearly 14% of all votes just by herself, the most ever in a Finnish election outside the presidential elections.
I wouldn't say that, Kokoomus voters always go out. When turn-out is low, the center-right usually perform better. It's just that the Finns Party didn't go vote
Same in Denmark. 46% of the population didn't vote, and frankly, the right-wing in Denmark has been in shambles (no coherent vision, empty rhetoric and broken promises.). Right wing of Denmark would rather not vote, than vote for people pretending to pander to them.
@@noone-pl2gj they rarely go, the recent parliament election was more of an exception and it was mostly dissatisfied Centre voters who went to vote for the Finns out of spite
As a dane i am pretty into danish politics, and if you look into the policies of even our "socialist" parties they are also very anti-immigrant. We have an EU test organised by "altinget", a newspaper in denmark, and they make questions, which the politicians answer, those questions included questions on immigration. Youre then supposed to take the test yourself, and figure out who you most agree with. But you can also just see all the politicians answers. The main kandidate for the danish social democrats answered very anti-immigration on all migration related questions. 1: Eu should have more boats in the Mediterranean to save the migrants? She answered disagree. 2: We should have migrant centers outside of the eu. She said agree. In denmark even the leftist parties are against migration, which most leftists parties arent in most of europe, which is why right parties have seen a surge in the rest of europe. 4/6 main candidates for left leaning parties all answered agree or strongly agree to having asylum centers outside of the EU. I cant speak for sweden, but in denmark every party is more or less for deporting migrants if not at minimum illegal migrants, and immigrants of all sorts who have been caught in criminal acts. So if youre already a socialist, and want stronger immigration policies, you dont have to change sides in denmark, because even socialist parties want fewer immigrants.
@@jasonhaven7170 I dont know what in my comment made you think about housing in copenhagen.. but there are many reasons why housing in copenhagen is so expensive.
@0:28 This is wrong. The center-right Finnish Coalition Party, whose emblem is shown here, didn't lose vote share. Instead, the populist right wing ECR Finns Party lost big time.
@@adamcrookedsmile The Left Party, Vasemmistoliitto, could be considered one. However I must say (biasedly) that the party approaches issues from a systematical and analytically honest perspective.
@@domenstrmsek5625 Potential reasons: 1 Finns used to be very anti-EU, pushing a narrative of "everything bad comes from EU", which has traditionally made the voters hesitant to vote in EU elections. 2 Finns used to maintain an image of being for the average joe. In the acting government coalition, they have went along with austerity politics, their chair embracing cutting from the poor, which may have led to alienating voters. 3 EU elections gather more interest from the educated demographic with background in university, open-mindedness and critical thinking, in which Finns are middle of the pack. 4 It has been argued that Finns didn't have an attractive list of star politicians as candidates. In comparison, the winners of the election in Finland, the Coalition Party and the Left, have been (1) pro-EU, (2) consistent in the image they upheld and the voter base they maintain, (3) attractive towards high income and/or culturally aware voters and (4) they had candidates loved and appreciated by the people in general, both having presidential candidates from earlier this year as massive vote-pullers.
They sure as fuck are when it comes to taking more of my money! Sure they make anti immigration election promises (that they don't really keep), which is a little right wing. But that doesn't change the fact that they are obsessed with using other people's money. The only reason we are getting a few tax breaks rn is because of venstre and moderaterne...
One of my friends think the scand socialist parties have parked themselves right in the center spot. The libertarians in Swedish C thought they could challenge that.
@@daniel-vr2pw It's still left but centre left. The left hasn't actually gone right that much except for immigration which every party needs to be against.
I can’t speak for all nordic countries.. But the two most important issues in Denmark were Climate Change and Defence (i.e Russia, and support for Ukraine). Both are topics that the right don’t tend to excel at..
Meanwhile in Sweden, we have Jonas Sjöstedt, a former party-leader for the Left Party, who is extremely popular, experienced and well-respected. He was a magnet on the left.
It is important to point out EU elections do not translate to national elections in Sweden. Something like what happened in France where new elections would never be called based on EU election results for example. People acting like the national elections will swing left now because of the EU vote but to put it into context the last times the greens did well in an EU election 15% in 2014 their national election results that same year was 6.89%. It just dosen't translate.
Voters tend to prioritize slightly different things internationally versus internally, but they rarely move from left to right between elections. You could, for example, think that climate change needs to be addressed at the EU level, labor policy at the national level, and social services at a local level.
Idk we'll see what happens. The right wing coalition is full of broken promises, heightened corruption, no real improvement in life quality, economy, jobs, welfare, or the immigration crisis. There's new scandals coming out on a monthly basis and the rhetoric from the extreme fringes is getting untasteful even for most in the coalition itself. I think we can expect a significant shift unless our population is properly lobotomized by then
Something similar also happened in The Netherlands: The biggest party in our national elections was the PVV (by far), but the biggest party in our EU elections was GL-PvdA, also with a low turnout rate.
One thing that I think this analysis misses is regarding Swedens stance on climate change as a political issue for the EU. Here in Sweden combating climate change has become one of the most prominent questions associated with EU elections, and less so with national politics. This is due to the rationale that climate change is global challenge which sees no borders. Parties with strong/trustworthy platforms on combating climate change have therefore done well.
@@jajefan123456789yeah but the EU doesnt so we're powerless. The EU mostly just focuses on European countries looking good, but we look good by using poor countries to do our dirty work, meaning polution doesnt go down but we look good.
You missed the mark. It is almost universally agreed upon in Sweden that 'climate and environment' are the most important questions for EU - that's why we vote more left in EU elections. The right simply has less ambitious environmental goals.
The Finns Party, it could be that their voters don't care for EU elections. Or, their popularity has dropped because they're in the government now. Hard to say which is it or maybe even both.
It is largely both. Majority of the people here are just tired of their bullshit at this point. Shows even in national polls where they just keep losing support while parties like Left Alliance and SDP gain support.
@@tommi7904 Because it said "alliance" and the UK politics' "First-Past-The-Post" system is based on all the parties being an enemy of each other, they don't work constructively, but they have to be against "the enemy" even if it makes their country go to hell. "Coalition" is a dirty word in the UK.
I love and you really got me and kill me with a lot of laughs when you show the exact extract clip from SVT announcing the results. And you put “Very dramatic” “very EUROVISION” 😂😂 and I can’t agree more with you guys it is SO SIMILAR TO EUROVISION FINAL TELE-VOTING VIBES! 😂😅😂😅😂 AND JUST A MOTH BEFORE SWEDEN HOST EUROVISION 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Thanks for the video guys! Greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽!
Haha it’s even more dramatic and Eurovision when the Swedish exit poll results is announced earlier in the night (which they didn’t show here) then they go party by party slowly and present the result separately. Especially for the smaller parties near the 4% threshold with a Eurovision split-screen for the 2 smallest parties 😅😅
Li Anderson broke the record for most votes on the EU elections in Finland by almost 100 000 votes. The previous record was held by the Paavo Väyrynen of the Center Party. It was set in 1996 and it was 157 000 votes.
In Denmark they only gained power and influence and when the far right party became the second largest party in Denmark (largest on the right) they simply did not join in to form a government. If you're the largest party on your side there's an unspoken rule that you take charge to form or join a government coalition! Especially when so many people vote for you to lead the country...
It's better not to join a government when you have to betray your voters for that coalition. Edit: you can see in germany what happens with social democrats and greens who have to make compromises with economically liberal parties like FDP
Well they did have power for almost 2 decades, being a support party of right wing governments. However after they became so large and didn't form a government, they almost went extinct, had multiple other fascist parties appear and take votes from them. Now they survive, but infighting on the right is still the norm, with each party competing on who can be the most racist, most denying of climate change and most populist for rural poor voters
@@wile123456 when they had to choose a new party leader and one of the candidates started talking about The Great Replacement conspiracy theory I knew they were completely lost...
@@wile123456wait until Muslims become a majority... Conservative Christians and Muslims can still agree on some things.... You have zero chances to last. I read the Quran.... You clearly have no idea what it's in there and Muslims should follow sharia otherwise they should explain Allah why they don't follow his LAW. Christians don't have a Law to follow for the simple fact that Jesus is clearly against the old testament so it becomes complicated.
@@Korfax124 I'm curious what part of it you think is a conspiracy, because different people seem to say different things on this and others intentionally obfuscate. Is different people groups, notably immigrants and natives, having different birthrates, which when doing the maths, would eventually result in something that might be described as a "replacement", if nothing is put in place to diminish it a conspiracy in itself? *Or* is it mostly just the idea that this is highly intentional and planned by some shadow government or the deep state or the Illuminati or whatever they wanna call them this week?
Yes, Enhedlisten is indeed more right than Liberal Alliance and Dansk Folkeparti /s I think you mean that the Social-Demokraterne is the entire left and they still have a less Conservative ideology than Venstre does. You sound like an incredibly low-information voter who's all in on Conservative ideology and is incredibly salty that it has lost influence. ¨ As bas a, for example, Social Demokaterne is, it's still a valid alternative to Venstre and far less destructive to Denmark as a whole.
That is just outright not true. That only applies to the social democrats. Which may not even be the biggest left wing party anymore, they weren't in this election, it was SF (The Democratic Socialist party)
Good analysis. I kinda feared how in depth this would be but Finland was well covered. The policies the parties in the government have pushed forwards have proven to be bad to many of their voters so those voters were likely to stay out of ballot boxes. In addition about Li Andersson, she is known to have her arguments filled with facts and for that she is rather respected by anyone in politics even if the politician in question would have differing and opposing views to her on the matter at hand. She is a rare breed and will serve the EU well. Basically her first comment after the results were out was that we must secure aid to Ukraine so there's that also.
Good point, EU parliamentary election turnout is always lower than in national or regional elections. Low is not good but it is normal. I bet the right wing will be awake in the Nordics the next time around and vice versa elsewhere
50% in countries who usually have 85-95% election turn out is quite significant. This usually means that it's more a matter of rallying the voters to even turn up then to convince them to vote for a political party. Here in Sweden for example the Greens ain't usually super popular but they really managed to get their voters out for the EU election which made them get a far larger vote-% then usual... usually they are at around the break point(4%) in national elections fluctuating between 4-6%, for them to have 13% in this election probably boils down mostly to lower voter turn outs then anything else.
As a swede. The main issue that I rarely see talked about is that the Swedish democratic voter base just didn’t vote. Only the greens really outperformed the polls. Having dropped a Swexit demand their base just didn’t show up. 50% of the people voted and the polls were roughly correct except for the greens and SD. The recent national poll put them back close to 20%. The Greens really did an incredible job galvanising their base to get out and vote.
I think it mostly has to do with the new migration pact in the EU being approved (that made migration policy on a EU level quite irrelevant in the debates, because it’s a sealed deal the 2024-2029 term) and Sweden having a significantly tougher migration policy and a very low rate of migration right now as a result of the conservative government (net negative asylum migration for the first time in modern Swedish history). Which I think affected voter priorities due to polls showing migration not being in the top 10 of what voters thought was the most important topic. Also, I think the Sweden democrats being part of the parliamentary support for the government and cooperating with them regarding policy gives them less of a rebellious/dissident image that makes it less appealing to vote for them - as well as some right wing voters being affected by the ECR group members being quite anti-Ukraine and pro Russia and uncomfortable with voting SD.
In Finland, the "right-wing populist" Finns party also dropped their Fixit goal and took a massive loss. The "left-wing populist" Left party, which is seen as the least pro-NATO party now, gained massively.
As a Swede, I think that being even more extreme won't help Sweden Democrats. They are successful when they tidy up, act seriously and cooperate with other right wing parties. This campaign, they tried waging war against the media and other parties, and also talked about extreme "replacement theories". Only their core base turned up because of that. It doesn't appeal to the ordinary Swedish voter.
@@hassetjifrebro8222 From a poll conducted before the election, so it means nothing. Furthermore, even that poll shows that the left wins easily, so being 20% (which doesn't show up to vote, as the election shows) means nothing if the left side is leading. Scaring away liberal voters with extremism is a bad idea if Sweden Democrats wants to win.
Many people around me voted for a different party in the EU election than in the Swedish general election, mainly because they wanted different questions to be pushed at an EU level
“Vaccinated against the The far-rigth” while stating they have been in government. Then shows Danish DF-party which famously has never been in government XD
Li Andersson is probably the most loved politician in Finland. She gets votes over party limits. She was amazingly popular in this election. She broke the old record almost by a 100 000 votes! She got total just shy of 250 000 votes, pulling two other left candidates into EU! All this while the far right Perusuomalaiset lost a seat. Also the "religious" party Kristillisdemokraatit lost their only seat. Kristillisdemokraatit really is just another right wing conservative party.
There is no Far-Right in Finland, and "Perusuomalaiset" are barely on the Right in the first place. "Kristillisdemokraatit" are not Right wing either. Regardless, I wonder if people would have known that Li Andersson is openly a Marxist... would people still vote for her.
@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Li Andersson is not marxist. Besides when a party is right or left-wing, it isn't solely tied to their economic policies, but to their social values and parties they form governments with.
@@otherhouse _"but to their social values and parties they form governments with."_ Social values have nothing to do with the left/right spectrum, which is about political policies and economics.
Dude, this now we get the surprising results of the france and uk elections bro this is amazing. Hopefully, europe can avoid fasc'ism as a gen z socialist the future for the eu looks brighter than it did a year or two ago
@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. how many times do we have to tell you? fascism is not a left-wing ideology, it is a right-wing ideology that sprung from ultra-nationalism, I find it ironic how your account is based on history, but you fail to understand a basic fact.
@@OatmealGrillBlazer _"fascism is not a left-wing ideology, it is a right-wing ideology that sprung from ultra-nationalism,"_ Still wrong. Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism/democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism. Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state." As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
@@OatmealGrillBlazer _"I find it ironic how your account is based on history, but you fail to understand a basic fact."_ How many book recommendations do you want, to counter your "basic facts" ? Also so that I know what books to recommend, you do know that Fascism is not the same thing as National Socialism, right?
I've said it since the beginning and I'll continue to say it. Europeans aren't turning more to the right they're turning against mass immigration and for most nations its only the right that recognise it as a problem. The second left and centre parties start taking peoples concerns about mass immigration seriously support for right wing parties essentially elaborates over night, like we're seeing in the Nordics. Hopefully other left and centre European parties wake up to this and save Europe from mass immigration aswell as from a decade under the far right.
It's not just that, I know people who don't care for that but they care for peace and many left parties are for more weapons, so they voted far right even though they are against everything of them. Also right politicians know how to use social media
Such a European statement, Americans accept their country as a melting pot and accept millions of immigrants and their country is the worlds strongest. Meanwhile Europeans are so racist they don't want Muslims in their country and their populations decline and economies stagnate Before I get a reply, I am a European btw
I´m very much left leaning and I´m against contemporary European immigrant policies. It´s not correct to let people enter a country illegally and make it very easy for them to stay. I´ll never vote for a far right party, but I might vote for a center party that is tougher on iligal immigration.
@@FrankeNamensKarim it's weird because 10 years ago it was conservatives and right wing people that felt our armies were getting cut way too short in Europe and that we shouldn't trust Russia. These days that flipped out of nowhere and many left wing people suddenly want to fight for their freedom and the conservatives want to roll over and submit.
As a Dane who us maried to a Chinese woman I can 1000% agree with the statement that the Danish Social democrats are driving down the road with far right immigration policies. that was a big reason why "danish people party" lost a lot of voters, because mainstream parties began to peddle even harder immigrations promises. It is embarrassing to be honest. Our PM suggested in a speech last year in April that non-ethnically Danish people committed on average 1200% more crime, compared to etnic Danes. That is just absurd. Imagine if that was true. Around 15-20% of the population is not etnically danish. That would leave our total population of around 2-3% criminals 🤣 it is completely bonkers.
1:36 error here. This is where they announced the election result, not the exit poll. Altough the exit poll result was announced in a similar fashion. Of course.
In Sweden, it was seemingly exclusively an issue of voter turnout. Traditionally left leaning areas (meaning inner cities) saw voting turnout as high as 70-80% while areas with more pro right wing voters saw a turnout as low as 30% in some cases. And to ascribe this to political policy during the election doesn’t seem very accurate as this isn’t something new. The last EU election was practically the same when it came to the over representation of voters in major cities.
This is the first time the Swedish far right has lost electoral support since they got into parliament in 2010. And traditional left leaning areas includes the rural north. The Left Party was almost as big as the social democrats in Västerbotten this election.
@@tveir7678 The “rural north” is very sparsely populated and the vast majority of the population inhabits a small number of (mostly) coastal cities. The example of Västerbotten that you brought up has nearly 80% of its population in its coastal municipalities, with 1/3-1/2 of the total population living in the two largest cities. The actual rural areas of Västerbotten and Norrbotten has some of the lowest turnout rates in the country. If I’m not mistaken some communities had less than a 15% turnout rate and the lowest turnout rate in an entire municipality was Dorotea with 22,4%. Actually, if you look at the highest and lowest turnout in municipalities throughout the country the story becomes quite different. This is seemingly more an issue of rural vs urban than Left vs Right.
@@hyhhy I believe that’s because the vast majority of the Swedish population is pro EU. In October 2023 Sweden had the second most favourable opinion of the EU after Poland.
I just imagine your ancestors, how pity they must have for you and all the leftists that allow the refugees to have everything they want, and yet disrespecting the local culture. I'm not a far-right extremist for saying that neither raised wrong.
Several corrections with regard to Denmark. At 0:26, you mention center and far-right parties losing vote share, but display the logo of the Conservatives, which gained vote share. At 2:20, you show 3 MEPs for the right and mention one unaffiliated MEP. However, you misidentified the unaffiliated MEP in your graphics, showing the Danish Democrats as being with the right when they are the unaffiliated group. The remaining seat, the Danish People's Party, is affiliated with the ID group.
@RushaMan how does giving tax cuts to millionaires and corporations, privatizing public tax paid utilities making them more expensive and worse, cutting social security from the people with the least, making education worse, make the welfare state any better? They make it deliberately worse so they can justify more money to go to the already rich. It's the oldest trick in the book to break proven better systems to the complain and sell them off to your buddies.
@@rappakalja5295 No, the socialist people’s party (the biggest winner) is promising more islam because of “international solidarity”, which just means more cheap labour for giant corporations at the expense of our people and culture. 👳🏿♀️🤜🏿👱🏻♀️
Migration not as much of an issue? In what world? The scandinavian left parties were able to notice their mistakes in regards to migration in time and actually change their stance, unlike the current ruling parties in my country, germany, or in france, who keep calling everyone racist who wants to tighten immigration laws. Hell, Olaf Scholz has said "we need to deport again" and was criticized for it from inside his party and by his own coalition partner. The Danish social democrats have a stance on immigration that almost rivals the far right parties in other european countries. Economically, many people prefer a more left leaning style, immigration just tends to be an exclusion criterium for voters. Guess why the BSW managed 6% in Germany despite being completely new. Left wing economics + hard stance on immigration. People just don't know whether to trust them yet.
I think it’s a combination of low voter turnout and that the right is currently in power since 2022 at least here in Sweden. People are always more critical of the ones in power. However in terms of seats it didn’t actually change much. Only one seat went from the right to the left.
I think people are somewhat ignoring the effects of the presidential elections that were held in Finland only some months ago. The EU elections are very much focused on personal popularity, and the leader of the Left Alliance Li Andersson was one of the candidates. The only presidential candidate to run in the EU elections. And she pretty much single-handedly dragged the two other member of Left Alliance with her. Those two didn't get in on their own votes. Li Andersson has basically been running a personal campaign for a year now, and was by far the most recognizable candidate on offer.
In Denmark the green left git a good election for lot off old social democrats voters have move that there angry over there have form a center government and cancel a holiday
Hvis man rigtigt er grøn er der bare heller ikke rigtigt nogen andre at stemme på hvis man ved lidt om EU-politik. Ø er bare traditionelt set anti-EU og deres gruppe i EU er også lidt mere til den anti-EU kommunistiske side. B er med i samme gruppe som V og M så selvom de siger de er mega grønne, så har de nok ikke meget at skulle have sagt i Renew. Så er der SF og Å tilbage. Å kom ikke ind sidst, og tror ikke Jannabis til Cannabis er det der får dem over grænsen. Så SF er det eneste grønne valg der også bliver oversat til en grøn stemme i EU.
All Western European countries are capitalist (and they became more so after the dissolution of the USSR) and they're all under the American ultracapitalist boot now. And inequality is increasing steadily in Nordic Europe as Sweden now for instance resembles Canada more than its Nordic neighbors in terms of inequality-adjusted human development
@@kataroquasinzki7383 : There is no Capitalism here, only left leaning Mixed economies. America doesn't have Capitalism either, just same mixed economies like 99% of the modern day countries. Regarding "inequality", the life and reality is unequal by default.
In Finland biggest surprice was that the left party improved result from 5-7% up to 17% and was more popular than sosial democratic party. This was due to the left being the only party opposing Gaza war from the begining. Additionally, Li Andersson was the only party leader with "young female leader" after Sanna Marin.
Still it is going to be a long road before we finally will have a left-wing Prime Minister, instead of the watered-down social democrat one. I will remain hopeful for that.
The message I get out of this is that Nordic left leaning parties have listened to their voters, unlike many in other countries that are continuing to double-down on failed or unpopular policies.
Two things for the swedish results: The far right is anti-EU and because of that less interested to vote in this election. And the far left party has been the only one on the palestinian side in the on-going war in Israel. That probably gave them some sympathi among certain groups of voters.
According to the exit poll numbers, the left would actually perform better and SD perform worse if only native Swedes voted in the election. Mostly due to the lowest turnout by far being in immigrant suburbs. So the biggest factor in the left wing surge is most likely that middle class and highly educated native Swedish urbanites voted in high numbers and prioritized Climate policy, Pro-Ukraine policies and EU cooperation. So I don’t think Palestine was that big of a factor.
@Minimmalmythicist Yes, and due to SD working with the government (achieving very low migration right now - but also some unpopular policies for far right voters such as the new gender law and many continued climate policies) and dropping all their EU criticism many dissident right voters probably see SD as less radical and interesting for a protest vote because they are de facto part of the “establishment” now. And being less rebellious means less drive to actually go vote.
@Minimmalmythicist Disagree completely, actually having very detailed information of what is going on in different institutions and seeing the increasing corruption or apathy to fight corruption makes people vote far right.
Muslims who are FAR right voting the far left is the most iconic thing possible 😂😂😂 well they are playing the long game so it make sense, what it doesn't is the far left supporting people who believe in theocracy 😂😂
The thing about the low voter turnout and higher turnouts from the greens doesn’t fully make sense for Denmark. The greenest party (alternativet) didn’t get a mandate for the eu.
Now, I can't speak for Finland or Sweden, but in Denmark, another reason for the left-ward shift is due to dissatisfaction with the incumbent coalition government between the Social Democrats (A), the Moderates (M) and the Liberals (V). Meaning these parties gained fewer votes than normal and many of the vote share moved further left than the Social Democrats, these being the Socialistic People's Party (SF, or the Green-Lefts) and the Red-Green Alliance. More conservative voters tend to stick with the Conservatives (C) rather than the Liberal Alliance (LA) who are considered more extreme and radical in their views, and even then, you'll find that most conservatives will vote for the more moderate centre-right Liberal Party (V). There are also many candidate tests provided by news outlets, helping voters figure out which specific candidates, rather than party, they align most with. These tests have been become increasingly popular in the last three elections, making it easier to figure out where a person lies specifically on the political spectrum, and thus help them decide which party or person they should vote for.
I really with you guys would use a different map projection. Mercator is just terrible for anyone not actively navigating the seas, but it feels even worse, dare I say Lazy, in this context, comparing northern and southern European countries. There are so many better maps out there, why use the worst one?
I'll always be confused about people who vote far right to be anti-establishment. They're conservatives. The core of all conservatism is maintaining the establishment. That's, like, the definition of conserving.
Not if your establishment want the opposite that conserve.... Conservatives don't want the politicians to be conserved that's ridiculous 🤦♂️ they want the societal structure, culture and norms ecc.... Also fasc*** are not conservative at all, only people who have no idea what they stand for can think that 🤦♂️ their entire art was based around progress....
And like, anti-establishment parties inherently can’t win. Because then, they are the establishment. Look at M5S in Italy. Hard anti-establishmentarianism in the 2018 campaign, after which they won 32% of the vote and got into the government (somewhat, it’s complicated). Turns out, they’re actually really bad at doing anything except yelling at the establishment, so in 2022, they lost 80% of their seats.
Im far right, i want to go back to the capitalism/free market, get rid of 90% of the gov and return freedom to people. I dont want to conserve current socialist hellhole
I mean there is conservative communism nowadays and other ideologies outside the norm. The establishment today is mostly liberal in the west, so what we call the right and the left are groups that reject the establishment but reject it in different ways.
Turnout for the EU elections are always low in DK. This one is the second highest turnout we've ever had, only falling behind the election before that, which saw a spike due to our national elections being a week later.
In Denmark some of the result going to SF, could also be credited to the thursday before the election, when there was a debate among all parties participating (which was broadcasted on live television), where a lot of people felt that the other candidates were just talking bad about all other parties, while the leading candidate from SF mostly focused on what they actually wanted to do, instead of focusing on the other parties and why they shouldn't be voted in. (this is what i have heard from a lot of people who normally don't vote for SF, but did this time)
Honestly, with the single exception of German SPD, that night was not neither a bad night nor a good night for the S&Ds. The French Socialists SOMEWHAT revived. Edit: the same cannot be said about the Greens, which they had it coming.
People around here tend to make sense. It's easy to work with that. When people stop making sense, it becomes increasingly more difficult to build complex and trustworthy structures.
remember those far right videos in 2017 about how Sweden is burning down and its gonna be a failed country and by 2025 nordic countries are done? what happened to all that?
Sweden has had to take special measure to combat gangs and crime. Mostly caused by one group. Even saying the will deploy the military. Thats pretty bad imo
2:35 "often described in media as far-right" made me skeptical, so I looked it up on my own. Going by what I can find the Finns Party is fascist with important figures having publicly known ties to nazi-movements across Scandinavia.
_"Going by what I can find the Finns Party is fascist with important figures having publicly known ties to nazi-movements across Scandinavia."_ That would make the Finns, a Far-Left party then, since both Fascism and National Socialism were 3rd position, socialist movements. Are you sure, that you are using those words correctly?
@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. I'd like to hear your take on how the politicians in The Democratic People's Republic of North Korea campaigned and earned a majority of the people's votes in their democratic elections....
In Denmark, nation-specific trend would also be the center coalition government unilaterally deleting a bank holiday just AFTER the 2022 election (nothing mentioned preelection) completely ignoring the usual union/employer organisation-deals. The EU-election has been the first chance to express disapproval with those parties (Soc.dem, Venstre, Moderates)
Wandered over here from Nebula to say I thought this is one of your better scripts. I may be wrong as I don't know about the subject matter, but I felt like you were able to have meaningful analysis without resorting picking facts to support a narrative (essentially the norm in today's "journalism"). More insightful and less calculated, IMHO. Thank you.
In Denmark we only have one anti-EU party, the rest is more or less for the EU, some just want less of it. And the anti-EU parti doesn't even want to leave the EU as of right now.
Maybe, maybe not. Some people think it's a good idea to send a MEP that a) will rot the EU institutions from the inside b) will do nothing at all for five years on taxpayers' money
@@Proton23757This is exactly it. Sure, there are immigrants in countries like France and Germany that have committed crimes, and by all means, those should be deported. However, the vast majority of immigrants are just trying to have a better life, and why should they be denied that? And they obviously won’t be fully integrated into whatever they moved to right away, no one is.
Unfortunately,. it seems the anti-immigrant factions have been pretty heavily appeased, so this may well lead to less support for Ukraine, unfortunately, especially given how much many anti-immigrant people are sympathetic to Vladimir Putin, if not outright support him.
Or maybe because the nordic countries are full of foreigners who vote left because they owe no allegiance to a country, culture and people that arent their own
The description for Denmark is slightly wrong. Of the 4 seats won by parties to the right of the Renew Europe group, 2 were won by parties intending to affiliate with EPP, 1 was won by the Danish People's Party, which sits in the ID group, and 1 was won by the Denmark Democrats, which prior to the election said it would join ECR, but has not formally committed to it yet. To the extent that there is an "unaffiliated MEP", that would be the one from the Denmark Democrats, who is still on the right. The graphic incorrectly seems to imply it's the MEP from the Danish People's Party.
Why did you use the Moderate party logo when saying the right lost percentages in Sweden? That is the only major party on the right that increased its share of the votes.
Possible yeah, see similar things happen in other countries in Europe. None of the center parties are really center, theyre right or left wing. In Netherlands the VVD has always been labeled as right wing/center right but their policies were quite left wing, even far left in some cases. CDA (supposed center) has been a green party too.
C is the old farmer's party. With lack of farmers it had to change. Right now it houses a mix of libertarians and social-liberals. More libertarians in the party org than in their voters.
Because our states are build on christian values of kindness (but also we aren’t super christian either, just culturally. Its very hard to explain.) Socialism is the kindest politics. We must all lift tougether or get crushed under the weight.
The right has been in power before in the nordics, and they've only made everything worse. Plus our "social Democrat" parties are not social anymore, being incompetent, cutting welfare, giving tax cuts to the rich and running on the same racist policies as the far right. It's why in Denmark they werent the biggest party anymore, after the spokesperson for integration in the social Democrats said some vile racist stuff straight out of the 1930's.
We want a video about Bulgaria 🇧🇬 It is a big political chaos here. The far-right Bulgarian political party 'Revival' (Vazrazhdane / Възраждане) will send 3 MPs in the EU parliament. They have good relationship with AfD in Germany.
They're not that similar at all, in Denmark even the left-wing parties oppose mass immigration, in Sweden it's a far more open topic and the recent talk of restrictions is really only due to the consequences that were being evidenced and making the left vastly unpopular, if the left did not reverse track on immigration in Sweden then their defeat would be a foregone conclusion because the problem just kept getting worse and worse and the government refused to answer the public's appeals. Whenever your government acts in such a manner arrogantly ignoring the wishes of the electorate, then they will get punished in the election for it, so the best thing the Swedish left is doing is precisely, push the right into awkward coalitions where it can't actually get any of it's more extreme proposals passed but can still be part of the "system" to undermine it's anti-system allure and additionally at least talk of restricting mass immigration even if you don't ultimately do it to placate the right's biggest selling point. You cannot counter the general public wishes and expect to win elections, if you notice that a lot of people are talking about a particular issue, that's a sign you cannot ignore it or you will lose seats, no matter how you feel about it, politics is about doing what the public wants not just what you want, you cannot afford such a disconnection between your party and the general public. Note that you need to follow through somewhat, if you start talking about opposing mass migration you can't do what the tories in the UK did and let in record numbers, that makes you look like a liar and your own electorate will bitterly despise you for it and revel in punishing you, look how many conservatives in the UK are openly cheering "zero seats" for the tories. That's punishment from your own electorate for lying and absolutely what you don't want in any circumstance cause that endangers your entire party.
I think there is an exhaustion about constant migration debate forcing everything else on hold. When people list their priorities, migration has been shrinking steadily. Like how much are you willing to trade and sacrifice for migration.
@@SusCalvin I think it reduces naturally as larger percentages of the population over time are of migrant background, as you naturalize more and more, that issue will get diluted, and other issues will arise. In Portugal for instance, at this point 1/10th of the population is made up of first generation migrants, if you expand that to the second generations then it's 1/3rd of the entire population. It's not surprising at all that this is not as big of an issue there as it might be in other European countries, and other countries will also experience that phenomenon over time and it's natural that it becomes less and less important as the demographics shift. I think it is shrinking yes, but not because of exhaustion, more so because of the demographics involved
@@liquidsnake6879 There is always a priority question in our coalition governments. I have to consider what I can give up to another party in order to get what I want. And I don't think people are willing to trade away other priorities they have, decade after decade, for migration.
I can tell what my dad did, when he got his voting papers he threw them in the trash and said "I did not vote No in the EU referendum(1994) to give a shit what Bryssel say or does".
@@JoaoOliveira-zk6yh Where did I write that he cries about not being represented? If he cared even a smidge about the EU he would have voted for the one tiny party that wants to leave the EU, but since he can't even be arsed to do that I doubt he cares about representation
CLARIFICATION: At 1:22 in this video, we say that Sweden had the most left-leaning results of any EU country. This is true, but it was equalled by Portugal, which also gave 10 out of 21 seats to left-wing and far-left parties. Eight seats went to the Partido Socialista (which sits in the EU's Socialists & Democrats bloc), one seat went to the Bloco de Esquerda (which sits in the EU's Left bloc), and one seat went to the Unitary Democratic Coalition (which also sits in the EU's Left bloc). Thanks for watching!
4:09 Riikka Purra's name was misspelled. The double consonants are very important in Finnish pronunciation (you can try this by setting google translate's language to Finnish and put the variations there).
Also, 6:14, might have been very illustrative to point out that Anderson got 13.5% of the popular vote, so she alone could technically be 3rd largest party in these elections. Or in other words... it wasn't that the "green/left" was doing quite well in these elections (the green party actually went down for 4.7 percentage points from last elections), but Anderson herself did phenomenally well.
Must have been because I came very near to it’s border when on Holliday in North Spain in May. 😁
since the 20th century political science and reality says it does not make sense at al to have a one dimensional definition of politics. At least 2 dimensional is the norm. Everyone including politics and media fails to recognise this and reduces the political discourse into two vague words that mean different things every 50 years.
@@cwpv2477 meaning? 🤣
@@marcbrasse747 the whole conversation is limited by wrong perception and stereotypes.
I was confused why you didn't talk about Norway and I remembered Norway isn't an EU member lol
We are in the EEA / EFTA which is worse, since we are forced to follow EU laws, but we have no voting rights.
And the worst part is that the deal was signed even though the majority of the country said no to joining the EU.
@@m4rt_ Being an EFTA country means that you’re a part of the EEA agreement, which gives your country access to the single market. The only laws you must integrate into the EEA agreement are the ones that affect the single market, i.e. affects your economy positively. The rest you don’t have to care about. A lot of people would probably consider that a great thing and not a worse version of being in the EU. You get all the significant benefits without having to do as much as other countries.
@@m4rt_ There are many EU laws we don't need to follow because we aren't fully in the EU, so the EEA is the best of both worlds. Norway in the EU would be disastrous for our sovereignty and our farmers
@@m4rt_you dont want access to schengen?
@@mathias6542 👀
I'm Swedish and I think your analysis is accurate. Well done! However, I might add that historically there has only been a weak correlation between results in the EU-elections and in the elections for our national parliament. In our national elections there is often a fair amount of tactical voting.
It's not "tAcTicAl vOotInG" it is just leftism for thee but not for me.
@@Neater_profile is it not leftism for me and not for thee? Im confused.
why swedish people do not vote for conservatives ?? i ask as a portuguese
@@bernardovital3170 because it is EU elections and they do not care.
swedenistan 😂 33% population no european 800 000 muslim , 77 000 somalien shame scnadinav white women welcome refugees
Small Note, the only party in Sweden which actually lost a mandate was the Christian Democrats (KD), meanwhile the Left Party (V) gained a seat, so overall the mandates didn't change dramatically.
But the left party was very close to 3 mandates
Yeah, but it should have shifted right. This is why Sweden doesn’t look like Sweden anymore. They doing it to themselves.
@@TheBoobanYou're not even Swedish, are you?
@@TheBooban BS, sweden is currently doing very well.
@@fra604 I’m a Swedish immigrant so watch out your bigoted assumptions.
The nationalists of nordics tend to be pretty anti-eu, the voters more so than the parties themselves, and thus as some sort of protest they tend to not vote in EU elections.
In Finland, for example, the "nationalist" Finns party watered down their anti-EU rhetoric and goals quite a lot for this election, and also kept going along with the elite's very aggressive anti-Russia rhetoric while having been critical of NATO for many years before. Predictably, this alienated much of their voter base and they took a massive loss.
@@hyhhy How does putins boot taste
@@hyhhy The Sweden Democrats also toned down their anti-EU rhetoric, to the point where they're officially not even against EU membership anymore. Which I find hilarious because the party leader Jimmie Åkesson claims SD's stance on the EU was the main reason he joined the pretty openly racist party in 1995.
@@hyhhyI’ve seen people on the right start to realize that while populism is a good starting point, populism alone is a dead end
@@americaninternationalist1917 true, it is how the austrian painter got to be chancellor
I love the Swedes’ Eurovision-style exit poll reveal more than I should
That's how all elections should be presented
What do you mean with "reveal more than I should"
That was exactly how I expected the Swedes to do it lol
Finland does it too
@@BigmanDogs "exit poll-reveal more than I should"
SVT making everything Eurovision is so funny
Really wish we had the same treatment for our elections here in the US
@@souvikrc4499 THE POINTS FROM CALIFORNIA GOES TO ...
@@Xeno_fqxb ROFL - Nice one
We may have an addiction please send help
@@souvikrc4499Isn't it already like that in the US?
Sweden also had a huge 'strong candidate effect' in jonas sjöstedt who was previously the leader of the left party, and who always polled ridiculously well
Finland had basically the exact same thing with Li Andersson (who is a Swedish-speaker by the way). But people did not choose to vote for these leftist leaders so much just because they're "cool" or "smart" people.
He is also the only representative from the north, a region that has been historically very underrepresented in Swedish politics.
Might explain why Jonas’ Left Party almost got as many votes over here as the Social Democrats.
You can probably say the same about the Christian party with Alice Teodorescu Måwe. They were so close to fall below the bar of entry and i firmly think she had enough "pull factor" to keep them in there. I don't really like her very much but she's rather popular on the right, probably popular enough to steal some votes from other parties mainly the Sweden Democrats.
Sjöstedt*
@@knightofsvea604 oh damn i actually thought something looked off with the spelling, checked the "edt" and thought it was correct
Oops
In Finland, right-wing voters were not as invested in the election as leftists, and the Left Alliance leader Andersson is extremely popular, getting nearly 14% of all votes just by herself, the most ever in a Finnish election outside the presidential elections.
I wouldn't say that, Kokoomus voters always go out. When turn-out is low, the center-right usually perform better. It's just that the Finns Party didn't go vote
@@noone-pl2gj I meant the far right, the Finns. Kokoomus are the most active followed by leftists
Same in Denmark. 46% of the population didn't vote, and frankly, the right-wing in Denmark has been in shambles (no coherent vision, empty rhetoric and broken promises.).
Right wing of Denmark would rather not vote, than vote for people pretending to pander to them.
@vem9583 oh of course, yeah. their turnout is all over the place. sometimes they go, sometimes not
@@noone-pl2gj they rarely go, the recent parliament election was more of an exception and it was mostly dissatisfied Centre voters who went to vote for the Finns out of spite
As a dane i am pretty into danish politics, and if you look into the policies of even our "socialist" parties they are also very anti-immigrant.
We have an EU test organised by "altinget", a newspaper in denmark, and they make questions, which the politicians answer, those questions included questions on immigration.
Youre then supposed to take the test yourself, and figure out who you most agree with. But you can also just see all the politicians answers.
The main kandidate for the danish social democrats answered very anti-immigration on all migration related questions.
1: Eu should have more boats in the Mediterranean to save the migrants? She answered disagree.
2: We should have migrant centers outside of the eu. She said agree.
In denmark even the leftist parties are against migration, which most leftists parties arent in most of europe, which is why right parties have seen a surge in the rest of europe.
4/6 main candidates for left leaning parties all answered agree or strongly agree to having asylum centers outside of the EU.
I cant speak for sweden, but in denmark every party is more or less for deporting migrants if not at minimum illegal migrants, and immigrants of all sorts who have been caught in criminal acts.
So if youre already a socialist, and want stronger immigration policies, you dont have to change sides in denmark, because even socialist parties want fewer immigrants.
"Socialist"
Is that why Copenhagen's housing is unaffordable?
@@jasonhaven7170 why "socialist"?
@@jasonhaven7170 I dont know what in my comment made you think about housing in copenhagen.. but there are many reasons why housing in copenhagen is so expensive.
@@jonahthrane812 They're not socialist.
@0:28 This is wrong. The center-right Finnish Coalition Party, whose emblem is shown here, didn't lose vote share. Instead, the populist right wing ECR Finns Party lost big time.
Which parties in Finland are populist left?
Why Finns failed
Left Finland?
@@adamcrookedsmile The Left Party, Vasemmistoliitto, could be considered one. However I must say (biasedly) that the party approaches issues from a systematical and analytically honest perspective.
@@domenstrmsek5625 Potential reasons:
1 Finns used to be very anti-EU, pushing a narrative of "everything bad comes from EU", which has traditionally made the voters hesitant to vote in EU elections.
2 Finns used to maintain an image of being for the average joe. In the acting government coalition, they have went along with austerity politics, their chair embracing cutting from the poor, which may have led to alienating voters.
3 EU elections gather more interest from the educated demographic with background in university, open-mindedness and critical thinking, in which Finns are middle of the pack.
4 It has been argued that Finns didn't have an attractive list of star politicians as candidates.
In comparison, the winners of the election in Finland, the Coalition Party and the Left, have been (1) pro-EU, (2) consistent in the image they upheld and the voter base they maintain, (3) attractive towards high income and/or culturally aware voters and (4) they had candidates loved and appreciated by the people in general, both having presidential candidates from earlier this year as massive vote-pullers.
Denmark's social democrats aren't really left at this point
They sure as fuck are when it comes to taking more of my money!
Sure they make anti immigration election promises (that they don't really keep), which is a little right wing.
But that doesn't change the fact that they are obsessed with using other people's money. The only reason we are getting a few tax breaks rn is because of venstre and moderaterne...
One of my friends think the scand socialist parties have parked themselves right in the center spot. The libertarians in Swedish C thought they could challenge that.
@@SusCalvin For some reason, it's really popular to pretend to be red, but actually just implement center-right policy.
@@daniel-vr2pw It's still left but centre left. The left hasn't actually gone right that much except for immigration which every party needs to be against.
@@icebox1954 I agree the left hasn't gone right, but the social democrats have, though.
Still preferable to any of the other right-wing parties.
I can’t speak for all nordic countries.. But the two most important issues in Denmark were Climate Change and Defence (i.e Russia, and support for Ukraine). Both are topics that the right don’t tend to excel at..
Meanwhile in Sweden, we have Jonas Sjöstedt, a former party-leader for the Left Party, who is extremely popular, experienced and well-respected. He was a magnet on the left.
It is important to point out EU elections do not translate to national elections in Sweden. Something like what happened in France where new elections would never be called based on EU election results for example. People acting like the national elections will swing left now because of the EU vote but to put it into context the last times the greens did well in an EU election 15% in 2014 their national election results that same year was 6.89%. It just dosen't translate.
Voters tend to prioritize slightly different things internationally versus internally, but they rarely move from left to right between elections.
You could, for example, think that climate change needs to be addressed at the EU level, labor policy at the national level, and social services at a local level.
Idk we'll see what happens. The right wing coalition is full of broken promises, heightened corruption, no real improvement in life quality, economy, jobs, welfare, or the immigration crisis. There's new scandals coming out on a monthly basis and the rhetoric from the extreme fringes is getting untasteful even for most in the coalition itself. I think we can expect a significant shift unless our population is properly lobotomized by then
Something similar also happened in The Netherlands: The biggest party in our national elections was the PVV (by far), but the biggest party in our EU elections was GL-PvdA, also with a low turnout rate.
Seems like a similar thing to US Mid Terms. The opposition party has a major advantage in turnout.
@@bobjenkins884 But the Dutch elections were 6 months ago. The new government isn't even in power yet. This wasn't a punishment against an incumbent.
@@TugaAvenger I didn’t know that
One thing that I think this analysis misses is regarding Swedens stance on climate change as a political issue for the EU. Here in Sweden combating climate change has become one of the most prominent questions associated with EU elections, and less so with national politics. This is due to the rationale that climate change is global challenge which sees no borders. Parties with strong/trustworthy platforms on combating climate change have therefore done well.
Glad to hear the Swedes actually have their priorities straight for the next generation, thanks for caring about us younger folk 🫶🏻
@@jajefan123456789yeah but the EU doesnt so we're powerless. The EU mostly just focuses on European countries looking good, but we look good by using poor countries to do our dirty work, meaning polution doesnt go down but we look good.
You missed the mark. It is almost universally agreed upon in Sweden that 'climate and environment' are the most important questions for EU - that's why we vote more left in EU elections. The right simply has less ambitious environmental goals.
The Finns Party, it could be that their voters don't care for EU elections. Or, their popularity has dropped because they're in the government now. Hard to say which is it or maybe even both.
The Finns typically underperforms in EU elections for a number of reasons. A drop down to 7% is still extraordinary.
Considering that they lost nearly half their votes, it‘s probably both.
It is largely both. Majority of the people here are just tired of their bullshit at this point. Shows even in national polls where they just keep losing support while parties like Left Alliance and SDP gain support.
it's both
Government coalitions are a lot more negotiable in Finland, I think? In Sweden the blocks quickly cement.
The conservatives in Denmark, whoose logo was shown in the beginning did not loose vote share
6:00 "Li Andersson, the leader of the socialist left alliance" is one confusing sentence to hear for people familiar with UK politics.
I had to pause and replay that bit a few times. It is such a strange thing to hear if you're British!
Hi, a Finn here. I'm not familiar with UK politics. Why was it confusing?
@@tommi7904 Lee Anderson is a UK politicians who went from centre left to centre right to far right.
@@merdufer thanks mate
@@tommi7904 Because it said "alliance" and the UK politics' "First-Past-The-Post" system is based on all the parties being an enemy of each other, they don't work constructively, but they have to be against "the enemy" even if it makes their country go to hell. "Coalition" is a dirty word in the UK.
I love and you really got me and kill me with a lot of laughs when you show the exact extract clip from SVT announcing the results. And you put “Very dramatic” “very EUROVISION” 😂😂 and I can’t agree more with you guys it is SO SIMILAR TO EUROVISION FINAL TELE-VOTING VIBES! 😂😅😂😅😂 AND JUST A MOTH BEFORE SWEDEN HOST EUROVISION 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Thanks for the video guys! Greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽!
Haha it’s even more dramatic and Eurovision when the Swedish exit poll results is announced earlier in the night (which they didn’t show here) then they go party by party slowly and present the result separately. Especially for the smaller parties near the 4% threshold with a Eurovision split-screen for the 2 smallest parties 😅😅
I spat my tea when I thought you said Lee Anderson. I guess Li Anderson from Finland has slightly different politics.
LOL same
Somewhat, yes 😅
Li Anderson broke the record for most votes on the EU elections in Finland by almost 100 000 votes. The previous record was held by the Paavo Väyrynen of the Center Party. It was set in 1996 and it was 157 000 votes.
One wonders if people would have known, that she is openly a Marxist... would people still vote for her.
In Denmark they only gained power and influence and when the far right party became the second largest party in Denmark (largest on the right) they simply did not join in to form a government. If you're the largest party on your side there's an unspoken rule that you take charge to form or join a government coalition! Especially when so many people vote for you to lead the country...
It's better not to join a government when you have to betray your voters for that coalition.
Edit: you can see in germany what happens with social democrats and greens who have to make compromises with economically liberal parties like FDP
Well they did have power for almost 2 decades, being a support party of right wing governments. However after they became so large and didn't form a government, they almost went extinct, had multiple other fascist parties appear and take votes from them. Now they survive, but infighting on the right is still the norm, with each party competing on who can be the most racist, most denying of climate change and most populist for rural poor voters
@@wile123456 when they had to choose a new party leader and one of the candidates started talking about The Great Replacement conspiracy theory I knew they were completely lost...
@@wile123456wait until Muslims become a majority... Conservative Christians and Muslims can still agree on some things.... You have zero chances to last. I read the Quran.... You clearly have no idea what it's in there and Muslims should follow sharia otherwise they should explain Allah why they don't follow his LAW. Christians don't have a Law to follow for the simple fact that Jesus is clearly against the old testament so it becomes complicated.
@@Korfax124 I'm curious what part of it you think is a conspiracy, because different people seem to say different things on this and others intentionally obfuscate.
Is different people groups, notably immigrants and natives, having different birthrates, which when doing the maths, would eventually result in something that might be described as a "replacement", if nothing is put in place to diminish it a conspiracy in itself?
*Or* is it mostly just the idea that this is highly intentional and planned by some shadow government or the deep state or the Illuminati or whatever they wanna call them this week?
6:18 The NCP candidate who received 88700 votes is called Pekka Toveri, not ”Pekka Ioveri”.
For me, the most surprising part of the results here in Finland was that the Left Alliance got more seats than the Social Democrats.
The danish left is more right wing than the swedish right wing just so you know.
Facts
Yes, Enhedlisten is indeed more right than Liberal Alliance and Dansk Folkeparti /s
I think you mean that the Social-Demokraterne is the entire left and they still have a less Conservative ideology than Venstre does. You sound like an incredibly low-information voter who's all in on Conservative ideology and is incredibly salty that it has lost influence.
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As bas a, for example, Social Demokaterne is, it's still a valid alternative to Venstre and far less destructive to Denmark as a whole.
That is just outright not true.
That only applies to the social democrats. Which may not even be the biggest left wing party anymore, they weren't in this election, it was SF (The Democratic Socialist party)
only on i9mmigration tho right?
that's not true
Good analysis. I kinda feared how in depth this would be but Finland was well covered. The policies the parties in the government have pushed forwards have proven to be bad to many of their voters so those voters were likely to stay out of ballot boxes. In addition about Li Andersson, she is known to have her arguments filled with facts and for that she is rather respected by anyone in politics even if the politician in question would have differing and opposing views to her on the matter at hand. She is a rare breed and will serve the EU well. Basically her first comment after the results were out was that we must secure aid to Ukraine so there's that also.
50% is not a low turnout at all, in croatia during our EU elections only 21% of the people voted.
Its low compared to our general elections. Normally in Denmark its like 89% turn out so its lower than normal yk. Thats also what he Said :)
Good point, EU parliamentary election turnout is always lower than in national or regional elections. Low is not good but it is normal.
I bet the right wing will be awake in the Nordics the next time around and vice versa elsewhere
50% in countries who usually have 85-95% election turn out is quite significant. This usually means that it's more a matter of rallying the voters to even turn up then to convince them to vote for a political party. Here in Sweden for example the Greens ain't usually super popular but they really managed to get their voters out for the EU election which made them get a far larger vote-% then usual... usually they are at around the break point(4%) in national elections fluctuating between 4-6%, for them to have 13% in this election probably boils down mostly to lower voter turn outs then anything else.
As a swede. The main issue that I rarely see talked about is that the Swedish democratic voter base just didn’t vote. Only the greens really outperformed the polls. Having dropped a Swexit demand their base just didn’t show up. 50% of the people voted and the polls were roughly correct except for the greens and SD.
The recent national poll put them back close to 20%. The Greens really did an incredible job galvanising their base to get out and vote.
I think it mostly has to do with the new migration pact in the EU being approved (that made migration policy on a EU level quite irrelevant in the debates, because it’s a sealed deal the 2024-2029 term) and Sweden having a significantly tougher migration policy and a very low rate of migration right now as a result of the conservative government (net negative asylum migration for the first time in modern Swedish history). Which I think affected voter priorities due to polls showing migration not being in the top 10 of what voters thought was the most important topic.
Also, I think the Sweden democrats being part of the parliamentary support for the government and cooperating with them regarding policy gives them less of a rebellious/dissident image that makes it less appealing to vote for them - as well as some right wing voters being affected by the ECR group members being quite anti-Ukraine and pro Russia and uncomfortable with voting SD.
In Finland, the "right-wing populist" Finns party also dropped their Fixit goal and took a massive loss. The "left-wing populist" Left party, which is seen as the least pro-NATO party now, gained massively.
As a Swede, I think that being even more extreme won't help Sweden Democrats. They are successful when they tidy up, act seriously and cooperate with other right wing parties. This campaign, they tried waging war against the media and other parties, and also talked about extreme "replacement theories". Only their core base turned up because of that. It doesn't appeal to the ordinary Swedish voter.
@@antonkarlsson7664 That argument would make sense if they're hurting in the polls. But they're not. They're still around 20%.
@@hassetjifrebro8222 From a poll conducted before the election, so it means nothing. Furthermore, even that poll shows that the left wins easily, so being 20% (which doesn't show up to vote, as the election shows) means nothing if the left side is leading. Scaring away liberal voters with extremism is a bad idea if Sweden Democrats wants to win.
4:50 "Something true is similar"😂 I think he mixed up his words
Many people around me voted for a different party in the EU election than in the Swedish general election, mainly because they wanted different questions to be pushed at an EU level
ah yeah good old people who dont know shit about politics
Yes, I also live in Sweden and I noticed that too
“Vaccinated against the The far-rigth” while stating they have been in government. Then shows Danish DF-party which famously has never been in government XD
Fedt, mere islam i Danmark.
They have not been in government, but supported hmgovernments from the outside, having their policies enacted without facing the test of power.
Your country needs to find Christ again.
@@vincentphilippart4669 that is just parliamentarianism for you. By that Logic Enhedslisten(communist’s) have have had the power from 2019-2022.
this channel is incredibly biased all the time
Li Andersson is probably the most loved politician in Finland. She gets votes over party limits. She was amazingly popular in this election. She broke the old record almost by a 100 000 votes! She got total just shy of 250 000 votes, pulling two other left candidates into EU! All this while the far right Perusuomalaiset lost a seat. Also the "religious" party Kristillisdemokraatit lost their only seat. Kristillisdemokraatit really is just another right wing conservative party.
Government accountability -- or government responsibility as we call it -- has hurt KD
There is no Far-Right in Finland, and "Perusuomalaiset" are barely on the Right in the first place. "Kristillisdemokraatit" are not Right wing either. Regardless, I wonder if people would have known that Li Andersson is openly a Marxist... would people still vote for her.
@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Li Andersson is not marxist. Besides when a party is right or left-wing, it isn't solely tied to their economic policies, but to their social values and parties they form governments with.
@@otherhouse _"Li Andersson is not marxist."_
According to her own words, she certainly is.
@@otherhouse _"but to their social values and parties they form governments with."_
Social values have nothing to do with the left/right spectrum, which is about political policies and economics.
Dude, this now we get the surprising results of the france and uk elections bro this is amazing. Hopefully, europe can avoid fasc'ism as a gen z socialist the future for the eu looks brighter than it did a year or two ago
You do know, that Fascism was a Far-Left, socialist ideology right?
@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. how many times do we have to tell you? fascism is not a left-wing ideology, it is a right-wing ideology that sprung from ultra-nationalism, I find it ironic how your account is based on history, but you fail to understand a basic fact.
@@OatmealGrillBlazer _"fascism is not a left-wing ideology, it is a right-wing ideology that sprung from ultra-nationalism,"_
Still wrong. Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism/democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism.
Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
@@OatmealGrillBlazer _"I find it ironic how your account is based on history, but you fail to understand a basic fact."_
How many book recommendations do you want, to counter your "basic facts" ? Also so that I know what books to recommend, you do know that Fascism is not the same thing as National Socialism, right?
I've said it since the beginning and I'll continue to say it. Europeans aren't turning more to the right they're turning against mass immigration and for most nations its only the right that recognise it as a problem. The second left and centre parties start taking peoples concerns about mass immigration seriously support for right wing parties essentially elaborates over night, like we're seeing in the Nordics. Hopefully other left and centre European parties wake up to this and save Europe from mass immigration aswell as from a decade under the far right.
It's not just that, I know people who don't care for that but they care for peace and many left parties are for more weapons, so they voted far right even though they are against everything of them.
Also right politicians know how to use social media
Such a European statement, Americans accept their country as a melting pot and accept millions of immigrants and their country is the worlds strongest.
Meanwhile Europeans are so racist they don't want Muslims in their country and their populations decline and economies stagnate
Before I get a reply, I am a European btw
I´m very much left leaning and I´m against contemporary European immigrant policies. It´s not correct to let people enter a country illegally and make it very easy for them to stay. I´ll never vote for a far right party, but I might vote for a center party that is tougher on iligal immigration.
I have to say that here in Finland, left wing parties are still very open to immigration so your theory doesn't work here.
@@FrankeNamensKarim it's weird because 10 years ago it was conservatives and right wing people that felt our armies were getting cut way too short in Europe and that we shouldn't trust Russia.
These days that flipped out of nowhere and many left wing people suddenly want to fight for their freedom and the conservatives want to roll over and submit.
As a Dane who us maried to a Chinese woman I can 1000% agree with the statement that the Danish Social democrats are driving down the road with far right immigration policies. that was a big reason why "danish people party" lost a lot of voters, because mainstream parties began to peddle even harder immigrations promises. It is embarrassing to be honest. Our PM suggested in a speech last year in April that non-ethnically Danish people committed on average 1200% more crime, compared to etnic Danes. That is just absurd. Imagine if that was true. Around 15-20% of the population is not etnically danish. That would leave our total population of around 2-3% criminals 🤣 it is completely bonkers.
God I wish we had coalition governments in the us😭
“Very Eurovision” best way to describe the elections, I’d wager
Classifying venstre as centre is amusing
But very true nowadays ;)
What is Venstre these days?
1:36 error here. This is where they announced the election result, not the exit poll.
Altough the exit poll result was announced in a similar fashion. Of course.
In Sweden, it was seemingly exclusively an issue of voter turnout.
Traditionally left leaning areas (meaning inner cities) saw voting turnout as high as 70-80% while areas with more pro right wing voters saw a turnout as low as 30% in some cases.
And to ascribe this to political policy during the election doesn’t seem very accurate as this isn’t something new. The last EU election was practically the same when it came to the over representation of voters in major cities.
This is the first time the Swedish far right has lost electoral support since they got into parliament in 2010.
And traditional left leaning areas includes the rural north. The Left Party was almost as big as the social democrats in Västerbotten this election.
The "far right" in Nordics watered down their criticism of NATO and EU a lot. Whereas the "far right" in Germany and France keeps it up.
@@tveir7678 The “rural north” is very sparsely populated and the vast majority of the population inhabits a small number of (mostly) coastal cities.
The example of Västerbotten that you brought up has nearly 80% of its population in its coastal municipalities, with 1/3-1/2 of the total population living in the two largest cities.
The actual rural areas of Västerbotten and Norrbotten has some of the lowest turnout rates in the country.
If I’m not mistaken some communities had less than a 15% turnout rate and the lowest turnout rate in an entire municipality was Dorotea with 22,4%.
Actually, if you look at the highest and lowest turnout in municipalities throughout the country the story becomes quite different.
This is seemingly more an issue of
rural vs urban than Left vs Right.
@@hyhhy I believe that’s because the vast majority of the Swedish population is pro EU.
In October 2023 Sweden had the second most favourable opinion of the EU after Poland.
@@tveir7678Their voters didn’t vote lol
And Norway's up there, chilling.
Grønland oslo
OMG! Please, pleeeease tell me the source, where that video of the Swedish results announcement came from. I need to see the whole video 😂
svt1 eu valvaka
Because we were raised right. Simple as.
And yet you don’t feel safe walking at night 🤦🏽♂️🤣
I just imagine your ancestors, how pity they must have for you and all the leftists that allow the refugees to have everything they want, and yet disrespecting the local culture. I'm not a far-right extremist for saying that neither raised wrong.
Did anyone else's UK brain melt for a moment when "Li Andersson" was mentioned as being a good politician 😂
Yeah a literal communist which she herself had stated.
As a Finn I've followed British politics and wondered what on earth is "our" andersson doing there 😂 guess it works both ways
@@gyderian9435 our Anderson is an awful guy, very dangerous guy. I'm pleased for you that he's not a Finn.
Excellent video adding some nuance to the EU election coverage!
DF is in ID and is far right in Denmark, not unafiliated
Yes, what makes TLDR's chart even weirder is that their elected candidate, Anders Vistisen, is likely to become the spokesman of the ID group.
@@runeodin7237 Exactly!
@@runeodin7237tldr sometimes let a little bit of their left bias to show, which is not something bad, it's impossible to be completely neutral.
Several corrections with regard to Denmark.
At 0:26, you mention center and far-right parties losing vote share, but display the logo of the Conservatives, which gained vote share.
At 2:20, you show 3 MEPs for the right and mention one unaffiliated MEP. However, you misidentified the unaffiliated MEP in your graphics, showing the Danish Democrats as being with the right when they are the unaffiliated group. The remaining seat, the Danish People's Party, is affiliated with the ID group.
They went left because it’s the only sensible decision.
Scandinavia is the only area on planet earth that had it’s head screwed on right
At least screwed on most correctly, here in Sweden we have problems with crime atleast, but yes, I agree with you
Good for the Nordics!
No, this means more islam and more strain on the welfare state.
@@RushaManDid the right wing governments which have done nothing to curb immigration tell you that?
@RushaMan how does giving tax cuts to millionaires and corporations, privatizing public tax paid utilities making them more expensive and worse, cutting social security from the people with the least, making education worse, make the welfare state any better?
They make it deliberately worse so they can justify more money to go to the already rich.
It's the oldest trick in the book to break proven better systems to the complain and sell them off to your buddies.
@@RushaMan Are the Muslim immigrants who want others to be Muslims in the room right now?
@@rappakalja5295 No, the socialist people’s party (the biggest winner) is promising more islam because of “international solidarity”, which just means more cheap labour for giant corporations at the expense of our people and culture. 👳🏿♀️🤜🏿👱🏻♀️
Migration not as much of an issue? In what world? The scandinavian left parties were able to notice their mistakes in regards to migration in time and actually change their stance, unlike the current ruling parties in my country, germany, or in france, who keep calling everyone racist who wants to tighten immigration laws. Hell, Olaf Scholz has said "we need to deport again" and was criticized for it from inside his party and by his own coalition partner.
The Danish social democrats have a stance on immigration that almost rivals the far right parties in other european countries.
Economically, many people prefer a more left leaning style, immigration just tends to be an exclusion criterium for voters. Guess why the BSW managed 6% in Germany despite being completely new. Left wing economics + hard stance on immigration. People just don't know whether to trust them yet.
I think it’s a combination of low voter turnout and that the right is currently in power since 2022 at least here in Sweden. People are always more critical of the ones in power. However in terms of seats it didn’t actually change much. Only one seat went from the right to the left.
Almost 2 seats but yeah
I think people are somewhat ignoring the effects of the presidential elections that were held in Finland only some months ago. The EU elections are very much focused on personal popularity, and the leader of the Left Alliance Li Andersson was one of the candidates. The only presidential candidate to run in the EU elections. And she pretty much single-handedly dragged the two other member of Left Alliance with her. Those two didn't get in on their own votes. Li Andersson has basically been running a personal campaign for a year now, and was by far the most recognizable candidate on offer.
In Denmark the green left git a good election for lot off old social democrats voters have move that there angry over there have form a center government and cancel a holiday
Hvis man rigtigt er grøn er der bare heller ikke rigtigt nogen andre at stemme på hvis man ved lidt om EU-politik. Ø er bare traditionelt set anti-EU og deres gruppe i EU er også lidt mere til den anti-EU kommunistiske side. B er med i samme gruppe som V og M så selvom de siger de er mega grønne, så har de nok ikke meget at skulle have sagt i Renew. Så er der SF og Å tilbage. Å kom ikke ind sidst, og tror ikke Jannabis til Cannabis er det der får dem over grænsen. Så SF er det eneste grønne valg der også bliver oversat til en grøn stemme i EU.
What would be the election results if voters in every country believed their elected officials weren't listening .....
Scandinavia has historically been a left leaning region due to its roots of communalism and social trust.
All Western European countries are capitalist (and they became more so after the dissolution of the USSR) and they're all under the American ultracapitalist boot now. And inequality is increasing steadily in Nordic Europe as Sweden now for instance resembles Canada more than its Nordic neighbors in terms of inequality-adjusted human development
Modern history is one thing. Pre-industrial era is another
@@kataroquasinzki7383 : There is no Capitalism here, only left leaning Mixed economies. America doesn't have Capitalism either, just same mixed economies like 99% of the modern day countries. Regarding "inequality", the life and reality is unequal by default.
@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. you're really obnoxious and biased
@@jasminv8653 : It's called being a realist.
Sweden presents their election result almost as they do in the ESC 😂
In Finland biggest surprice was that the left party improved result from 5-7% up to 17% and was more popular than sosial democratic party.
This was due to the left being the only party opposing Gaza war from the begining. Additionally, Li Andersson was the only party leader with "young female leader" after Sanna Marin.
Still it is going to be a long road before we finally will have a left-wing Prime Minister, instead of the watered-down social democrat one. I will remain hopeful for that.
The message I get out of this is that Nordic left leaning parties have listened to their voters, unlike many in other countries that are continuing to double-down on failed or unpopular policies.
Two things for the swedish results: The far right is anti-EU and because of that less interested to vote in this election. And the far left party has been the only one on the palestinian side in the on-going war in Israel. That probably gave them some sympathi among certain groups of voters.
According to the exit poll numbers, the left would actually perform better and SD perform worse if only native Swedes voted in the election. Mostly due to the lowest turnout by far being in immigrant suburbs. So the biggest factor in the left wing surge is most likely that middle class and highly educated native Swedish urbanites voted in high numbers and prioritized Climate policy, Pro-Ukraine policies and EU cooperation. So I don’t think Palestine was that big of a factor.
@Minimmalmythicist Yes, and due to SD working with the government (achieving very low migration right now - but also some unpopular policies for far right voters such as the new gender law and many continued climate policies) and dropping all their EU criticism many dissident right voters probably see SD as less radical and interesting for a protest vote because they are de facto part of the “establishment” now. And being less rebellious means less drive to actually go vote.
@Minimmalmythicist Disagree completely, actually having very detailed information of what is going on in different institutions and seeing the increasing corruption or apathy to fight corruption makes people vote far right.
Muslims who are FAR right voting the far left is the most iconic thing possible 😂😂😂 well they are playing the long game so it make sense, what it doesn't is the far left supporting people who believe in theocracy 😂😂
The thing about the low voter turnout and higher turnouts from the greens doesn’t fully make sense for Denmark. The greenest party (alternativet) didn’t get a mandate for the eu.
Will you make a video's about Belgium's (national and regional) election results?
peenit
no.
Will non beglians even be sble to grasp Belgium's political system?
@@tjrgwnfktwbag good point
@tjrgwnfktwbag nope.. noone does. Not even the Belgian prime minister
Now, I can't speak for Finland or Sweden, but in Denmark, another reason for the left-ward shift is due to dissatisfaction with the incumbent coalition government between the Social Democrats (A), the Moderates (M) and the Liberals (V).
Meaning these parties gained fewer votes than normal and many of the vote share moved further left than the Social Democrats, these being the Socialistic People's Party (SF, or the Green-Lefts) and the Red-Green Alliance.
More conservative voters tend to stick with the Conservatives (C) rather than the Liberal Alliance (LA) who are considered more extreme and radical in their views, and even then, you'll find that most conservatives will vote for the more moderate centre-right Liberal Party (V).
There are also many candidate tests provided by news outlets, helping voters figure out which specific candidates, rather than party, they align most with. These tests have been become increasingly popular in the last three elections, making it easier to figure out where a person lies specifically on the political spectrum, and thus help them decide which party or person they should vote for.
I really with you guys would use a different map projection. Mercator is just terrible for anyone not actively navigating the seas, but it feels even worse, dare I say Lazy, in this context, comparing northern and southern European countries. There are so many better maps out there, why use the worst one?
you mention that there was an unaffiliated MP in Denmark which won, which is not true, that went to the danish peoples party, who sits in ID
I'll always be confused about people who vote far right to be anti-establishment. They're conservatives. The core of all conservatism is maintaining the establishment. That's, like, the definition of conserving.
Not if your establishment want the opposite that conserve.... Conservatives don't want the politicians to be conserved that's ridiculous 🤦♂️ they want the societal structure, culture and norms ecc.... Also fasc*** are not conservative at all, only people who have no idea what they stand for can think that 🤦♂️ their entire art was based around progress....
And like, anti-establishment parties inherently can’t win. Because then, they are the establishment.
Look at M5S in Italy. Hard anti-establishmentarianism in the 2018 campaign, after which they won 32% of the vote and got into the government (somewhat, it’s complicated). Turns out, they’re actually really bad at doing anything except yelling at the establishment, so in 2022, they lost 80% of their seats.
@drewkaton6785 The far right is still conservative. They believe in either maintaining or returning to traditions. That's conservative.
Im far right, i want to go back to the capitalism/free market, get rid of 90% of the gov and return freedom to people. I dont want to conserve current socialist hellhole
I mean there is conservative communism nowadays and other ideologies outside the norm. The establishment today is mostly liberal in the west, so what we call the right and the left are groups that reject the establishment but reject it in different ways.
Turnout for the EU elections are always low in DK. This one is the second highest turnout we've ever had, only falling behind the election before that, which saw a spike due to our national elections being a week later.
This is great news
In Denmark some of the result going to SF, could also be credited to the thursday before the election, when there was a debate among all parties participating (which was broadcasted on live television), where a lot of people felt that the other candidates were just talking bad about all other parties, while the leading candidate from SF mostly focused on what they actually wanted to do, instead of focusing on the other parties and why they shouldn't be voted in. (this is what i have heard from a lot of people who normally don't vote for SF, but did this time)
Honestly, with the single exception of German SPD, that night was not neither a bad night nor a good night for the S&Ds.
The French Socialists SOMEWHAT revived.
Edit: the same cannot be said about the Greens, which they had it coming.
It was interesting to see the french Socialist Party almost "coming back from the dead", gaining the same amount of seats as Macron's alliance.
For real. German socialdemocrats and greens suffered clearly because of the ampel government
This was actually a bad night for the S&Ds in Austria, Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria and Slovenia.
People around here tend to make sense. It's easy to work with that. When people stop making sense, it becomes increasingly more difficult to build complex and trustworthy structures.
remember those far right videos in 2017 about how Sweden is burning down and its gonna be a failed country and by 2025 nordic countries are done? what happened to all that?
It didn't happen.
They were off by about 80 years.
Far right bullshit. The situation in Sweden is not nearly as bad as some people described it
Shootings and gang violence has gone up, but otherwise our issues are not much different to those of other EU states.
Sweden has had to take special measure to combat gangs and crime. Mostly caused by one group. Even saying the will deploy the military. Thats pretty bad imo
Norway is currently left, but will most likely switch next year
2:35 "often described in media as far-right" made me skeptical, so I looked it up on my own. Going by what I can find the Finns Party is fascist with important figures having publicly known ties to nazi-movements across Scandinavia.
_"Going by what I can find the Finns Party is fascist with important figures having publicly known ties to nazi-movements across Scandinavia."_
That would make the Finns, a Far-Left party then, since both Fascism and National Socialism were 3rd position, socialist movements. Are you sure, that you are using those words correctly?
@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. I am using those words correctly & the only guys calling that far-left are the fucking nazis
@@Argacyan _"I am using those words correctly"_
The Finns most certainly aren't Fascists by any means however. They are nationalists if anything.
@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. I'd like to hear your take on how the politicians in The Democratic People's Republic of North Korea campaigned and earned a majority of the people's votes in their democratic elections....
so far right
In Denmark, nation-specific trend would also be the center coalition government unilaterally deleting a bank holiday just AFTER the 2022 election (nothing mentioned preelection) completely ignoring the usual union/employer organisation-deals. The EU-election has been the first chance to express disapproval with those parties (Soc.dem, Venstre, Moderates)
6:02 I'm sorry but it cracks me up that Finland has a politician called Li Andersson who is on the left 🤣
Could we do a swap please? :-)
No swap 😁
@@henriikkak2091 Oh well, it was worth a try :-) Hopefully 30p Lee will be out of a job in 3 weeks 🤞
If you are from the UK, you have plenty of Andersson's in the Labor party.
Wandered over here from Nebula to say I thought this is one of your better scripts. I may be wrong as I don't know about the subject matter, but I felt like you were able to have meaningful analysis without resorting picking facts to support a narrative (essentially the norm in today's "journalism"). More insightful and less calculated, IMHO. Thank you.
If those towards the "far" right are anti-EU it'd sort of make logical sense for that grouping to have a lower turnout on EU elections
The far left in sweden is also anti-EU
Well, french and german anti EU parties did well
In Denmark we only have one anti-EU party, the rest is more or less for the EU, some just want less of it. And the anti-EU parti doesn't even want to leave the EU as of right now.
Maybe, maybe not. Some people think it's a good idea to send a MEP that
a) will rot the EU institutions from the inside
b) will do nothing at all for five years on taxpayers' money
Don't ask the far-right scum to be logical
I see a Eurovision-reference, I press like!
Because they aren't stupid or afraid of those scaaaaaary people...fleeing war and bloodshed.
HOW DARE THEY TRY TO CREATE A BETTER LIFE FOR THEMSELVES, WE NEED TO BUILD A WALL AND HEIL [REDACTED]
@@Proton23757This is exactly it. Sure, there are immigrants in countries like France and Germany that have committed crimes, and by all means, those should be deported.
However, the vast majority of immigrants are just trying to have a better life, and why should they be denied that? And they obviously won’t be fully integrated into whatever they moved to right away, no one is.
@@Proton23757take your pills buddy 👍
Unfortunately, the political discourse here in Sweden is not like what you seem to think it is. It's bad here too.
@@JesusOrDestruction It's literally a joke
According to SVT studies, a bigger turnout in Sweden would have benefited mostly the left parties and slightly the far right SD
Good to hear, hopefully this will help make the Eu keep supporting Ukraine in the following years.
Unfortunately,. it seems the anti-immigrant factions have been pretty heavily appeased, so this may well lead to less support for Ukraine, unfortunately, especially given how much many anti-immigrant people are sympathetic to Vladimir Putin, if not outright support him.
can I just ask, why is nody talking about belgium? I always hear about france but belgium barely mentioned if anything, what actually happened there?
Perhaps because people are more logical and don't fall for the right's fear mongering and false promises.
Or maybe because the nordic countries are full of foreigners who vote left because they owe no allegiance to a country, culture and people that arent their own
Perhaps when the Left tackles the right wing’s principal subjects, then those right wing parties lose :)
@@98TrueRocker98 Yeah, I'm sure 10%-20% of the population makes up 40-60% of the voters 👍 racism has rotted your brain.
I wish. The discourse is bad here too.
Or we did that years ago already
The description for Denmark is slightly wrong. Of the 4 seats won by parties to the right of the Renew Europe group, 2 were won by parties intending to affiliate with EPP, 1 was won by the Danish People's Party, which sits in the ID group, and 1 was won by the Denmark Democrats, which prior to the election said it would join ECR, but has not formally committed to it yet. To the extent that there is an "unaffiliated MEP", that would be the one from the Denmark Democrats, who is still on the right. The graphic incorrectly seems to imply it's the MEP from the Danish People's Party.
Why did you use the Moderate party logo when saying the right lost percentages in Sweden? That is the only major party on the right that increased its share of the votes.
M and two supporting parties, the liberals and christian democrats, compose the right at the moment. The latter two are the ones teetering.
It's baffling to me that we can't vote online yet.
Hackers and stuff
The "Centre" party in sweden is just right wing btw
yeah and S are basically center right now. "swedish at heart" holy shit
Possible yeah, see similar things happen in other countries in Europe.
None of the center parties are really center, theyre right or left wing.
In Netherlands the VVD has always been labeled as right wing/center right but their policies were quite left wing, even far left in some cases.
CDA (supposed center) has been a green party too.
They're liberal. Pro-immigration, green and socially progressive, but yes, economically right wing.
@@tveir7678 Yes they are liberals, liberalism is right wing
C is the old farmer's party. With lack of farmers it had to change. Right now it houses a mix of libertarians and social-liberals. More libertarians in the party org than in their voters.
Because our states are build on christian values of kindness (but also we aren’t super christian either, just culturally. Its very hard to explain.)
Socialism is the kindest politics. We must all lift tougether or get crushed under the weight.
Because they saw how the right is doing in other countries 😂
More "what" they are doing in other countries
No its because the right didnt vote in the EU elections cause they dont believe in the EU
The right has been in power before in the nordics, and they've only made everything worse. Plus our "social Democrat" parties are not social anymore, being incompetent, cutting welfare, giving tax cuts to the rich and running on the same racist policies as the far right. It's why in Denmark they werent the biggest party anymore, after the spokesperson for integration in the social Democrats said some vile racist stuff straight out of the 1930's.
The right is doing just fine.
We (swe and fin) have right wing govs at the moment as well
We want a video about Bulgaria 🇧🇬 It is a big political chaos here. The far-right Bulgarian political party 'Revival' (Vazrazhdane / Възраждане) will send 3 MPs in the EU parliament. They have good relationship with AfD in Germany.
They're not that similar at all, in Denmark even the left-wing parties oppose mass immigration, in Sweden it's a far more open topic and the recent talk of restrictions is really only due to the consequences that were being evidenced and making the left vastly unpopular, if the left did not reverse track on immigration in Sweden then their defeat would be a foregone conclusion because the problem just kept getting worse and worse and the government refused to answer the public's appeals.
Whenever your government acts in such a manner arrogantly ignoring the wishes of the electorate, then they will get punished in the election for it, so the best thing the Swedish left is doing is precisely, push the right into awkward coalitions where it can't actually get any of it's more extreme proposals passed but can still be part of the "system" to undermine it's anti-system allure and additionally at least talk of restricting mass immigration even if you don't ultimately do it to placate the right's biggest selling point.
You cannot counter the general public wishes and expect to win elections, if you notice that a lot of people are talking about a particular issue, that's a sign you cannot ignore it or you will lose seats, no matter how you feel about it, politics is about doing what the public wants not just what you want, you cannot afford such a disconnection between your party and the general public.
Note that you need to follow through somewhat, if you start talking about opposing mass migration you can't do what the tories in the UK did and let in record numbers, that makes you look like a liar and your own electorate will bitterly despise you for it and revel in punishing you, look how many conservatives in the UK are openly cheering "zero seats" for the tories. That's punishment from your own electorate for lying and absolutely what you don't want in any circumstance cause that endangers your entire party.
I think there is an exhaustion about constant migration debate forcing everything else on hold. When people list their priorities, migration has been shrinking steadily.
Like how much are you willing to trade and sacrifice for migration.
@@SusCalvin I think it reduces naturally as larger percentages of the population over time are of migrant background, as you naturalize more and more, that issue will get diluted, and other issues will arise.
In Portugal for instance, at this point 1/10th of the population is made up of first generation migrants, if you expand that to the second generations then it's 1/3rd of the entire population.
It's not surprising at all that this is not as big of an issue there as it might be in other European countries, and other countries will also experience that phenomenon over time and it's natural that it becomes less and less important as the demographics shift.
I think it is shrinking yes, but not because of exhaustion, more so because of the demographics involved
@@liquidsnake6879 There is always a priority question in our coalition governments. I have to consider what I can give up to another party in order to get what I want. And I don't think people are willing to trade away other priorities they have, decade after decade, for migration.
The Swedish Social Democratic Party is not really a leftist party and absolutely not a Socialist party.
Lee Anderson????
Exactly lmfao
Li Andersson*
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@@Purjo92 I know ;)
Honestly for Europes sake, it should be a continent wide thing... So blind that they can't even see they are being taken over.
I can tell what my dad did, when he got his voting papers he threw them in the trash and said "I did not vote No in the EU referendum(1994) to give a shit what Bryssel say or does".
Based
So he refuses to vote for Swedish EU representation and they cries that he has no representation 😂
@@JoaoOliveira-zk6yh Pretty much like everyone that complains but then doesn't vote.
@@JoaoOliveira-zk6yh Where did I write that he cries about not being represented? If he cared even a smidge about the EU he would have voted for the one tiny party that wants to leave the EU, but since he can't even be arsed to do that I doubt he cares about representation
If he cares about the economic wellbeing of his country, and exports he should care about what Brussels say. But if course, he can be a dumbass.
I thought that this was about Vikings going left to england and iceland