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@@jasonwilliams2852 I bought a maxtrac kit that had brake lines lift spindles and rear shackles. I bought all Moog front end parts all ball joints tie rod ends and energy suspension a arm bushings top and bottom for truck. I put it all together and I have 5 inch lift in the front and about 2in in the back I need to get the back up higher I don't know how to do it. I think that I need to weld on shackles to the rear axle to get rear axle under leaf springs instead of on top of leaf springs. But the find a shop that will do it is very questionable. Maxtrac lift did work good in the front Perry don't know what to do. I'll post my solution when I find the answer. But I think it is performance four-wheel drive shops that will just do the flip kit for you you need a flip kit on this because putting longer Shackles on the rear end is going to make for a while a rough ride. It's either that or longer leaf springs that are arched so the truck is up higher. People telling me an add a leaf will do it as well but I think it'll be way too stiff. I'll post my answer later the problem is they don't make a Fabtech lift kit anymore and I've researched it and they just they don't make it anymore. Jack did it back while ago and it isn't available anymore it's what's on the video. It's an injustice to us as 10 drivers that we can't get a flip kit no more for that rear end to raise it up. Lee's everyone's have to go to a shop to put a weld in purchase on the top of the axle so they can put it
Mossman your problem solving is really good and the methotic way you overcome each stage of a project convicts me to calm down and stay with it. Thanks for the vids
Awesome job, did a 97 with 3" spindles and shackles in the rear. Then did a 2" body lift and 31" tires baddest looking S10 pre runner in south Florida.
I did my 02 S10 blazer 2wd last year with a 3in. Body life, lift spindles with upper ball joint spacers after moving the ball joints under the control arm's cause I also had a 2in spring lift in the front and with flipping the rear axle and the 35's I figured that I had somewhere around 10 to 12 inches of lift, and it drove great, oh I did have to get a little longer driveshaft to be safe. I wish I could post pictures.
You do such a good job of making your videos helpful to the average diyer good video once again. Road salt is an evil necessity in the northern and eastern states.....it sure causes a lot of cursing at least when I am working on vehicles
That's awesome had no idea a flip kit was available no grinding off the Old Spring perches Andre welding into the right position I love it. Takes the guesswork out
nice job moss man !! , i would have cleaned and painted that dust plate , and added paint to the callipers before install but thats just me ......your doing what i wish i could do , when you serviced deiseal engines for 32 years , nothing has wheel bearings in it except the motors .....thanks for upload ive learbed alot today !.....happy new year my friend !
I wish I could buy all new parts on every project, but I don't have an unlimited budget. Sometimes I have to put hard work into a project to save money. I think that is "genius" as you say.
@@mossman381 I was going to buy the same kit did you need to get bigger wheels I was talking to someone about this and they mentioned id need 17 inch wheels
Thats a good video...i had a 2000 isuzu hombre..same thing as a s 10 just the front looked different..same exact spindle lift in front but just shackles in the back..anyway great video..learned alot👍
With the right Tires, you can mostly anywhere I can go in my 02' Blazer ZR2 on 33"s All Terrain tires. I live near the beach here in SE Texas & I can run in 2 wheel drive where most run 4x4. Mud is a different story but in sand, if you don't stop? Your good
If you use your head and plan where you stop a 2-wheel drive will work most places. We have snow up here in Wisconsin so that complicates the wintertime.
@@mossman381 I would like to do an axle flip on mine instead of having the adjustable shackle drop I've already got mine on the 4-inch mark I need one more inch to make it level! That kit that you got must have been one of a kind!
Good video, I know this video is not new however I was under the impression that you should only torque your rear ubolts after the truck is sitting on the ground w/ weight settled in. Correct me if I am wrong.
I like how they hammer all the bolts tight with air tools then say when the weight of the truck is on we retorqued the bolts. They have over torqued just about every single bolt they hammered with the air tool.
Mossman, remember the video I made for you to see my 02 Silverado you liked? Well, I just bought the same year same cap long-bed Duramax. I guess I'll try to do some videos of what I do to it as I go. But it's just as clean as mine now and it's one of 3 colors I like, it's white. Runs so freaking good and only has 160,000 miles owned buy an older man. I have so many plans for it and a programmer is going to be the first. Wished I lived near you, I would have had you do all the work if you wanted. Ok I'm going to watch your new video on this little S 10 :) thums-up!
I have a 2000 Chevy blazer and want to lift the front to help clear 31’s, If I do the same thing and don’t touch the back I know it will sit higher in the front which is what I want but not look squatted. If you would have not touched the back you think it would still of looked alright?
Can you just use 3 inch lift shackles in the rear and whould you need longer shocks or can you still use the stock shocks great video a little confusing for a newbie
@@mossman381 thanks great video thats what i am doing to my 2000 s10 extreme cant stand lowered trucks looks terrible and bottoms out on bumps so i am lifting it 3 inches thanks for the info
So I am going to be hopefully getting a 94 4door 2wd. I went to the drawing board immediately on what I'd want to have done.. I first thought that I wanted to do a 2wd conversion to 4wd with no knowledge on what it would take to get there lol. That idea quickly went out the window after doing some research. Does lifting a 2wd drive give any advantage for it? At this point I'm now on the fence if I want to do a clean Street truck or still go with the off road/ overland direction - with maybe a 2-3 inch lift and swap for the OEM 4x4 style Jimmy/Blazer wheels and some nice alterrains - what's your thoughts on a lift on a 2wd when it comes to advantages? Thanks
Your truck will look good no matter which way you go. Lower or raised. I had no use for a lowered truck. I go off the road quite a bit. You do have to be careful when going off the road with a 2wd but I use my head to keep me out of trouble. Build the truck for the way you will use it. If you never go off the paved roads then a street truck look would be awesome. I little lower with good street tires. It will handle better than a lifted truck too. Good luck with your build.
@@mossman381 Right on, thanks for the insight. Looks like I have a decision to make, I do plan on taking the misses and the dogs on some camping trips - On those trips I don't think I'll be doing any serious off road driving, maybe some trails getting to where we need to go, but nothing crazy. Thanks again
Bump:: if you flip the bolt itself it doesn't bind up when aligning the axle again,(I barely remember but flip them so they're facing up in the pack not down I think)and I paused it but I hope you end up welding the "new perches" correct pinion angle among tightening everything up is very important as I'm sure you know, if it's a parts runner ya might be OK with just tacks but as I read you go off road quite a bit, welding the new perches is 100% required for those beginners thst may be reading this, you CANNOT rely on the ubolts holding everything together, and believe it or not I've been asked "where one can pick up a pinion angle!" Lol just get an angle finder and the tailshaft should be around-2/-4 ISH, the angle of your pinion on rear end needs to be opposite so it lines up your Dshaft. ESPECIALLY if you haven't gotten a 1 pc steel DS and still have the factory "3 pc" with the very weak joints all over it(thanks GM) anyways good video again..ill hit play and pray you welded this kit...ALSO JUST MY OPINION! Not hating on any of it, I wish more people shot their work! How's the 20 year old kid supposed to learn without doing right? And multiple videos can give them ideas...wish this stuff was around when I was still wet 'hind the ears , ill tell ya that!!
Just wondering ..... What u think about shark bite brake line fittings? Like /hate/ neutral abt them? For use on repairs like these....rotted in some but the rest is spotless where in some cases, one may not have enough room to flare.
I have a compression fitting on the fuel line on this truck. It's held for years now. Never used the shark bite fittings. If a compression fitting is done right it should hold as long as the line holds.
Yea you could of rented a spring compresser sometimes you buy your parts at the auto parts store they will charge x amount of money 💰 and then when you return the spring compressor you get your money back.
What was the brake line off of? or could you post up a part # please, that would be awesome as that is something everyone doing this lift wastes tones of time on.
The way most of your nuts and bolts probably should of been pre-treated with PB Blaster and aloud to soak for serval hours. This will just make life a little easier.
Just focusing on the rear end portion, How long did that part of it take you? Brake lines, driveshaft, flip kit and all? Looking to do this on a 4x4 model Chevy Blazer
The rear didn't take long but I did some other things like diff cover and rear wheel seals and filming takes time. I already did my rear shackles which were a real pain because of rust. You can see that video in the playlist for this truck.
Will work, but need to hit it with a hammer and pry bar to get it out. Good job man. I did almost the same setup on a family members S10. Add a cheap lock rite or Aussie locker and will go decent Offroad.
hello @mossman381, nice job. I'm lifting my chevy S10 2001. As you explained in the video, new brake hoses are needed. What length of hoses did you get? Maybe another chevy truck model hose that fits? I'd appreciate your comment. Regards
@@mossman381 nice job. As you explained, new front brake hoses are needed. What length for hoses did you use? maybe other chevy model hoses that fit? Thanks in advance
@@crduartew I don't remember the hoses I used. The guy at Carquest helped me find one. He was a guy I knew from way back. The new guys at the parts stores are no help. I wouldn't even waste my time asking them now. Trying to remember anything about them but it was a long time ago.
Great video! My son and I are trying the same thing on an 83 S10 but I can't find a spring over axle kit anywhere. You have any suggestions? I can find the spindles for the front, just nothing for the rear.
No, it's just a longer rear shackle for the leaf spring. That will give you lift. You can usually buy a lift kit with the spindles and the rear shackles together.
Vacuum bleeder, Harbor Freight, $35. Hands free and by yourself, the best way to bleed breaks ever. You won't be sorry. Requires shop air. Easiest way to remove those rivets is use die grinder and cut cross slots in the head and then air chisel or hammer/chisel. Then pin punch or small drift to knock out remaining. Like the rear diff cover. Guess I was late to this party.
Hey, love the videos! Funny that i came across your channel right when i was lifting my 2wd almost the exact same just shackles for the rear. What lines did you use when u extended them for the spindle? You said you were able to find the at you local store.. im gonna need to extend mind and just was wonderin if you could help out! Thankyou
I would have to make a lot more off RUclips before I could take on another project. My channel doesn't seem to grow all that much and I am not sure why. I tried starting a paid channel to help with projects but nobody wanted to help.
Question. How do you feel about the lift? It looks like the front is lower than the back? Is that how you wanted it? Cause, I have an 03 2wd 4.3 long wheel base s10 and I wanna put a lift on it, but nothing seriously expensive, would you recommend this?
The next few videos will answer a lot of these questions. The rear is a little high. Didn't know the flip kit was like a 5-6" lift. Probably could just go with rear shackles to get a cheap lift. This truck is almost complete and I have been driving it. It drives surprising well. It's a little more stiff than before but I think it's the new shocks and new springs up front.
I have a question I’m gonna buy these exact spendals and was wondering how you ran factory wheels it says in the description 17” wheels or bigger factory wheels will not work
I didn't use factory rims although the factory rims did fit before I got my new rims and tires. I trimmed some of my upper control arm when I got the bigger tires. It wasn't hitting the tire but was very close. Didn't want to chance wrecking expensive BFG tires. Here is the video: ruclips.net/video/H31u9qQTKAM/видео.html I need to get spacers or I should have gotten rims with a little less backspacing. That would eliminate the problem completely.
I am not really sure. I don't remember them saying 17" or bigger when I bought mine. I had my original rims and tires on the truck and everything cleared.
did you had any bounce at the front end after installing them? I've put the same lift on a 93 blazer, with brand new coil springs and it bounces like a low rider! any idea why?
i Like your video, only way bolt on lift kit. on a 2wd chevy S10, But there is a big injustest, on this. I saw your video and decided to lift my 2002 2wd, truck. so i got a maxtrack lift spindle kit with brake lines and shocks, with lift shacles for the rear. I noticed before I bought parts that one offered, the rear end flipkit , fabtech ft 7268-8. I have called fabtech about this part but it is no longer offered, discontinued. Problem is I LISSENED TO YOU. you said in your video that a person did not need a flip kit to make, truck level out. now i nave a truck that is lifted with the front way higher the the rear. and no easy way to raise the rear, and no shop will touch the rear end to raise it to level out truck, I woulder now how to level truck. NICE VIDeo ! I spent over 1000 dollars so far. what next
@@mossman381 the manufacturing company that made my kit is called maxtrax. Bought new spindles shocks brake lines shackles and rear shocks . Came in the kit. The problem now is the Friday in got about a 5 inch lift from this kit. I replaced all front end parts and put Moog Springs in the front. Put the shackles in the shocks in the back in the back only got about a two and a half inch lift . so I need another two and a half inch lift in the back. I used the shackles that maxtrac supplied in their kit Suspension is stiff. I wouldn't want to put a taller shackle on there because the one I have on there is pretty long. I believe I put it on a longer shackle on there, ride would be unruly stiff. I believe I need to do an axle flip on the rear to get the right suspension hide and ride. Involves welding new shackles on top of axle housing Arrowhead which no shop wants to do. I'm very surprised that you replied back to me. I wonder how to level this truck out. I sure would hate to have to take the lifting spindles off. But it might come to that. Thank you once again. I'm surprised you replied!
I reply to most comments and am always willing to help others. Do you have a link to the kit you used? 5" of lift on the front and 2.5" in the rear doesn't sound right. Usually the kits have a similar amount of lift so the vehicle is close to level. A shackle won't effect the ride. It doesn't change the spring rate of the leaf springs. I longer shackle or an add-a-leaf lift for your rear springs. The add-a-leaf will make your suspension stiffer.
Sorry I don't have time right now to look up my maxtrac part number and what not at the moment. Preciate your help. Who else makes a flip kit? I need a flip kit to get me that extra two maybe three inch lift in the back. Here's a picture of my truck and I'll came out. I put news Moog stock Springs in front. And all Moog ball joints tie rod ends everything's new energy suspension polyurethane bushings in a arms. Here's a picture of my truck! Looks like I can't send you a picture of my truck but I thought I could. Who makes the flip kit for an S10 2 wheel drive tell me buddy please.?!
As far as I know you can't get a flip kit anymore. I found a MaxTrac 3" lift kit for $697. According to the what I saw they only put a 1" lift shackle in the kit. That won't be enough. If you did use a 1" lift shackle you need a longer one.
I don't think there is any need to lift more. The 4.3 isn't going to turn huge tires very well. Then the axles aren't meant for huge tires either. You can modify anything to do anything if you have the money. I am just trying to fit 31" tires under this one.
@@mossman381 then all you needed was a body lift lol I think, once you take off on the tube, come back and slap the coils and body lift. The sky is the limit, that's what the s stands for
@@chrisgosselin6399 I don't like body lifts. They are the cheap way to lift. Much better to lift with the suspension. I think the s stands for small. These are very small trucks.
I also used to hate on them for there gross body gaps but I noticed blazers naturally sit higher on the frame a 2in body lift will make a stock s10 show the same amount of frame as a blazer I feel the 2in keeps the body safer if you ever bottom out in a hole or going over a steep ledge. 3in Body lifts tho not advertised do fit second gens but from the side it dose show quite a bit of frame but you can fit 33 by 13.5 on 10in rims if you push it to the limit
Great video! I just did a rear lift the same way with the same brackets. I had a quick question. Did you get longer shocks for the rear? If so, what kind? Thanks.
I got factory size shocks from Advance Auto. Went with the good Monroe shocks. Seems to be working fine. You have to have the truck on the ground to install them.
mossman381 one more quick question bud. I finished the installation but I seem to have extreme negative camber. Did you have to get new upper control arms? My spindle seems slanted with causes the camber issue. Let me know. Thanks.
You are going to have a hard time finding that flip kit. They don't make it anymore. You can do a shackle lift in the back to match the spindle lift. A lot easier too.
It's not actually "flipped" its just repositioned. Axle sits on top of leaf springs. You're just putting the axle under the leaf springs which obviously raises the ass end up higher. The axles is approximately 3.5 inches so by moving it from on top to underneath is how you get the 3+ inches of lift.
The project has already really gone too far for what the truck is. Had to stop spending money at some point. The control arms are fine. They have some scale but they solid.
My truck is a 2001. I think the 98 would be the same but I would recommend you put your truck specs in your Amazon garage. Then you can check to see if the parts will fit your truck.
The factory line does go in front. With the lift spindles the line will hit the ball joint. You would need a 90° bend to run the factory way. I like the way I have it run. It's out of the way and has good length for turning and full suspension drop.
I have a 94 s10 4x4 8 inch's on 35s truck became useless for everyday use it's a toy I also have a 95 2 wheel I'm 6.5 and broke my hip 2 years ago Im looking to lift my 2 wheel drive to get in and out of it because it sit so low factory plus with a mini spool these 2 wheel drives go just about anywhere my 4 wheel can plus u have 22x14 I'm wanting to fit under it look at it as you spend your money your way I'll spend mine did a 80 luv like this 20 years ago it's now a pre runner and a 4.3 with a stall and a 700r4 I go places 4x4 can't and I can fly pretty high
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What about the Springs??
Hey so did you use the shackles? Just making sure before I buy the shackles too, I am planning on doing mine as you did yours
@@jasonwilliams2852 I bought a maxtrac kit that had brake lines lift spindles and rear shackles. I bought all Moog front end parts all ball joints tie rod ends and energy suspension a arm bushings top and bottom for truck. I put it all together and I have 5 inch lift in the front and about 2in in the back I need to get the back up higher I don't know how to do it. I think that I need to weld on shackles to the rear axle to get rear axle under leaf springs instead of on top of leaf springs. But the find a shop that will do it is very questionable. Maxtrac lift did work good in the front Perry don't know what to do. I'll post my solution when I find the answer. But I think it is performance four-wheel drive shops that will just do the flip kit for you you need a flip kit on this because putting longer Shackles on the rear end is going to make for a while a rough ride. It's either that or longer leaf springs that are arched so the truck is up higher. People telling me an add a leaf will do it as well but I think it'll be way too stiff. I'll post my answer later the problem is they don't make a Fabtech lift kit anymore and I've researched it and they just they don't make it anymore. Jack did it back while ago and it isn't available anymore it's what's on the video. It's an injustice to us as 10 drivers that we can't get a flip kit no more for that rear end to raise it up. Lee's everyone's have to go to a shop to put a weld in purchase on the top of the axle so they can put it
Mossman your problem solving is really good and the methotic way you overcome each stage of a project convicts me to calm down and stay with it. Thanks for the vids
Awesome job, did a 97 with 3" spindles and shackles in the rear. Then did a 2" body lift and 31" tires baddest looking S10 pre runner in south Florida.
I did my 02 S10 blazer 2wd last year with a 3in. Body life, lift spindles with upper ball joint spacers after moving the ball joints under the control arm's cause I also had a 2in spring lift in the front and with flipping the rear axle and the 35's I figured that I had somewhere around 10 to 12 inches of lift, and it drove great, oh I did have to get a little longer driveshaft to be safe. I wish I could post pictures.
Did your 35's rub much? I'm thinking of putting 33's on my S10
You do such a good job of making your videos helpful to the average diyer good video once again. Road salt is an evil necessity in the northern and eastern states.....it sure causes a lot of cursing at least when I am working on vehicles
The rust sure doesn't help any :)
That's awesome had no idea a flip kit was available no grinding off the Old Spring perches Andre welding into the right position I love it. Takes the guesswork out
It is a cool idea but not sure they make them anymore. I couldn't find it online but didn't look real hard because I was able to buy this kit used.
nice job moss man !! , i would have cleaned and painted that dust plate , and added paint to the callipers before install but thats just me ......your doing what i wish i could do , when you serviced deiseal engines for 32 years , nothing has wheel bearings in it except the motors .....thanks for upload ive learbed alot today !.....happy new year my friend !
“It was a real fiasco!” (Proceeds to change a ball joint the hardest way possible instead of replacing the control arm)
✨genius✨
I wish I could buy all new parts on every project, but I don't have an unlimited budget. Sometimes I have to put hard work into a project to save money. I think that is "genius" as you say.
Hell yeah! A 2WD lift! That blue is signature Fabtech color, for sure.
Once I figured the bolts were hitting the axle the flip kit fit like a glove. Yup, Fabtech blue.
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I was going to buy the same kit did you need to get bigger wheels I was talking to someone about this and they mentioned id need 17 inch wheels
Good info,, I have a 89 i am wanting to lift,, I am wanting the prerunner look just something different
You are doing such a nice job with this truck. Its really start to clean up like a little diamond.
Hey mossman I think it would be really cool if you lined up all your rigs and did a quick overview, keep up the good work!
Thank You for adding a link.
I already add the spindles to my list.
Thats a good video...i had a 2000 isuzu hombre..same thing as a s 10 just the front looked different..same exact spindle lift in front but just shackles in the back..anyway great video..learned alot👍
With the right Tires, you can mostly anywhere I can go in my 02' Blazer ZR2 on 33"s All Terrain tires.
I live near the beach here in SE Texas & I can run in 2 wheel drive where most run 4x4. Mud is a different story but in sand, if you don't stop? Your good
If you use your head and plan where you stop a 2-wheel drive will work most places. We have snow up here in Wisconsin so that complicates the wintertime.
Looking good Randy! Can’t wait to see what’s next on the S10 and midnight!
u got a pre runner now looks good
Yup, pre runner. Some people get all bent out of shape when people lift 2wd trucks and lower 4wd ones. I have done both :)
This video reminded me I didn't put the seal on my bearings when I changed my rotors two years ago...opps
Surprised they have lasted 2 years without a seal.
Who needs shocks LOL 🤣 man you did an awesome job you spent quite a bit of money to I love these little super trucks!!
Spent some money and time but the truck is back rolling again and looks great.
@@mossman381 I would like to do an axle flip on mine instead of having the adjustable shackle drop I've already got mine on the 4-inch mark I need one more inch to make it level! That kit that you got must have been one of a kind!
Found the flip kit on Ebay. It was used made by Fabtech.
I thought I was the only one lifting 2wd trucks.. I am about to lift a 92 Mighty Max 2wd this weekend!!
Got a 2001 GMC Sonoma 6 inch suspension 2 inch body and a 2000 Ranger same , both 2wd lol they look better not into off-road but they look tougher
Good video, I know this video is not new however I was under the impression that you should only torque your rear ubolts after the truck is sitting on the ground w/ weight settled in. Correct me if I am wrong.
I don't think leaf springs need to be on the ground to tighten u-bolts.
@@mossman381 these videos state you must retorque on the ground.
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Yes, some suspension parts need the weight on them but not leaf springs. My guess is he is talking about the front parts.
I like how they hammer all the bolts tight with air tools then say when the weight of the truck is on we retorqued the bolts. They have over torqued just about every single bolt they hammered with the air tool.
Mossman, remember the video I made for you to see my 02 Silverado you liked? Well, I just bought the same year same cap long-bed Duramax. I guess I'll try to do some videos of what I do to it as I go. But it's just as clean as mine now and it's one of 3 colors I like, it's white. Runs so freaking good and only has 160,000 miles owned buy an older man. I have so many plans for it and a programmer is going to be the first. Wished I lived near you, I would have had you do all the work if you wanted. Ok I'm going to watch your new video on this little S 10 :) thums-up!
Sounds like a good truck. I will take a look at the video when you post it.
Yes for the loft kit finally someone makes sense lol
I have a 2000 Chevy blazer and want to lift the front to help clear 31’s, If I do the same thing and don’t touch the back I know it will sit higher in the front which is what I want but not look squatted. If you would have not touched the back you think it would still of looked alright?
Can you just use 3 inch lift shackles in the rear and whould you need longer shocks or can you still use the stock shocks great video a little confusing for a newbie
I think you could just do shackles but I haven't done that myself. You will need longer shocks or extensions for your shock mounts.
@@mossman381 thanks great video thats what i am doing to my 2000 s10 extreme cant stand lowered trucks looks terrible and bottoms out on bumps so i am lifting it 3 inches thanks for the info
Must've been a heck of a pothole to bust that spring ;) She's got a nice rake :D
Grandpa did some off-roading because he had a big garden on one of his daughters land. I am guessing something happened there.
dont let your brother in law see it, he will want it back lol
Big block and headers next? :)
By the way, your intro is among the best, in my opinion
I love my new intro. Thanks for noticing. I haven't gotten much feedback from it so didn't really know if anybody liked it.
So I am going to be hopefully getting a 94 4door 2wd. I went to the drawing board immediately on what I'd want to have done.. I first thought that I wanted to do a 2wd conversion to 4wd with no knowledge on what it would take to get there lol. That idea quickly went out the window after doing some research. Does lifting a 2wd drive give any advantage for it? At this point I'm now on the fence if I want to do a clean Street truck or still go with the off road/ overland direction - with maybe a 2-3 inch lift and swap for the OEM 4x4 style Jimmy/Blazer wheels and some nice alterrains - what's your thoughts on a lift on a 2wd when it comes to advantages? Thanks
Your truck will look good no matter which way you go. Lower or raised. I had no use for a lowered truck. I go off the road quite a bit. You do have to be careful when going off the road with a 2wd but I use my head to keep me out of trouble. Build the truck for the way you will use it. If you never go off the paved roads then a street truck look would be awesome. I little lower with good street tires. It will handle better than a lifted truck too. Good luck with your build.
@@mossman381 Right on, thanks for the insight. Looks like I have a decision to make, I do plan on taking the misses and the dogs on some camping trips - On those trips I don't think I'll be doing any serious off road driving, maybe some trails getting to where we need to go, but nothing crazy. Thanks again
be safe in whatever you do since you are taking misses with ya ....happy new year young man !
Bump:: if you flip the bolt itself it doesn't bind up when aligning the axle again,(I barely remember but flip them so they're facing up in the pack not down I think)and I paused it but I hope you end up welding the "new perches" correct pinion angle among tightening everything up is very important as I'm sure you know, if it's a parts runner ya might be OK with just tacks but as I read you go off road quite a bit, welding the new perches is 100% required for those beginners thst may be reading this, you CANNOT rely on the ubolts holding everything together, and believe it or not I've been asked "where one can pick up a pinion angle!" Lol just get an angle finder and the tailshaft should be around-2/-4 ISH, the angle of your pinion on rear end needs to be opposite so it lines up your Dshaft. ESPECIALLY if you haven't gotten a 1 pc steel DS and still have the factory "3 pc" with the very weak joints all over it(thanks GM) anyways good video again..ill hit play and pray you welded this kit...ALSO JUST MY OPINION! Not hating on any of it, I wish more people shot their work! How's the 20 year old kid supposed to learn without doing right? And multiple videos can give them ideas...wish this stuff was around when I was still wet 'hind the ears , ill tell ya that!!
Just wondering ..... What u think about shark bite brake line fittings? Like /hate/ neutral abt them? For use on repairs like these....rotted in some but the rest is spotless where in some cases, one may not have enough room to flare.
I have a compression fitting on the fuel line on this truck. It's held for years now. Never used the shark bite fittings. If a compression fitting is done right it should hold as long as the line holds.
Yea you could of rented a spring compresser sometimes you buy your parts at the auto parts store they will charge x amount of money 💰 and then when you return the spring compressor you get your money back.
We have some spring compressors. There was a reason I didn't use it but forgot it's been so long now.
What was the brake line off of? or could you post up a part # please, that would be awesome as that is something everyone doing this lift wastes tones of time on.
The way most of your nuts and bolts probably should of been pre-treated with PB Blaster and aloud to soak for serval hours. This will just make life a little easier.
I use Blaster but this truck was pretty bad. Probably the worst I have even seen.
Just focusing on the rear end portion, How long did that part of it take you? Brake lines, driveshaft, flip kit and all?
Looking to do this on a 4x4 model Chevy Blazer
The rear didn't take long but I did some other things like diff cover and rear wheel seals and filming takes time. I already did my rear shackles which were a real pain because of rust. You can see that video in the playlist for this truck.
How much fun was it getting the front coil back in?
Another option for the back is a longer shackle and add a leaf.
The coil spring was a struggle. I made my own tool to help with the install. Check the playlist for this project to see that.
I used a internal spring compressor. Still a pain in the ass.
I have a spring compressor but when I looked at the space to work in I didn't think I would be able to get it out once installed.
Will work, but need to hit it with a hammer and pry bar to get it out. Good job man. I did almost the same setup on a family members S10. Add a cheap lock rite or Aussie locker and will go decent Offroad.
The calipers were moved up on the new spindle so the original brake hose should have worked ?????
Original brake hoses won't work.
hello @mossman381, nice job. I'm lifting my chevy S10 2001. As you explained in the video, new brake hoses are needed. What length of hoses did you get? Maybe another chevy truck model hose that fits? I'd appreciate your comment. Regards
@@mossman381 nice job. As you explained, new front brake hoses are needed. What length for hoses did you use? maybe other chevy model hoses that fit? Thanks in advance
@@crduartew I don't remember the hoses I used. The guy at Carquest helped me find one. He was a guy I knew from way back. The new guys at the parts stores are no help. I wouldn't even waste my time asking them now. Trying to remember anything about them but it was a long time ago.
u do great work man fuck what others say they cant get it up is all lol
Think maybe CariD may have the rear flip kit currently.
I don't think that flip kit is made anymore. I bought it used.
Look at that rust! I’m sure glad I live down here in Texas lol
Looking great Randy!!
The truck is nearly done now and I love it. Can't wait to show everybody the completed truck.
Great video! My son and I are trying the same thing on an 83 S10 but I can't find a spring over axle kit anywhere. You have any suggestions? I can find the spindles for the front, just nothing for the rear.
I don't think they make the flip kit anymore. I would just get a rear shackle lift kit. That will match the spindle lift much better anyway.
@@mossman381 I have seen those just not sure how they worked. Will that allow me to put the axle under the spring?
No, it's just a longer rear shackle for the leaf spring. That will give you lift. You can usually buy a lift kit with the spindles and the rear shackles together.
@@mossman381 thanks for the reply. Your help is greatly appreciated!!
Good video
Vacuum bleeder, Harbor Freight, $35. Hands free and by yourself, the best way to bleed breaks ever. You won't be sorry. Requires shop air.
Easiest way to remove those rivets is use die grinder and cut cross slots in the head and then air chisel or hammer/chisel. Then pin punch or small drift to knock out remaining.
Like the rear diff cover.
Guess I was late to this party.
Hey, love the videos! Funny that i came across your channel right when i was lifting my 2wd almost the exact same just shackles for the rear. What lines did you use when u extended them for the spindle? You said you were able to find the at you local store.. im gonna need to extend mind and just was wonderin if you could help out! Thankyou
CARQUEST # BHA38102. And then you will need an adaptor to get to your factory line. 7/16-24 inverted female to 3/8-24 inverted male.
What is the torque for the upper and lower ball joint? Thank you
Your next project truck should be an 80’s squarebody!
I would have to make a lot more off RUclips before I could take on another project. My channel doesn't seem to grow all that much and I am not sure why. I tried starting a paid channel to help with projects but nobody wanted to help.
u may need taller springs in the front to level u out though other wise awsome truck
great video !!!
Question. How do you feel about the lift? It looks like the front is lower than the back? Is that how you wanted it? Cause, I have an 03 2wd 4.3 long wheel base s10 and I wanna put a lift on it, but nothing seriously expensive, would you recommend this?
The next few videos will answer a lot of these questions. The rear is a little high. Didn't know the flip kit was like a 5-6" lift. Probably could just go with rear shackles to get a cheap lift. This truck is almost complete and I have been driving it. It drives surprising well. It's a little more stiff than before but I think it's the new shocks and new springs up front.
Did the caliper ever interferes with the lower control arm? Mine make contact depressing the caliper and loosing brakes till I pump them up
I didn't have any problems like that.
I have a question I’m gonna buy these exact spendals and was wondering how you ran factory wheels it says in the description 17” wheels or bigger factory wheels will not work
I didn't use factory rims although the factory rims did fit before I got my new rims and tires. I trimmed some of my upper control arm when I got the bigger tires. It wasn't hitting the tire but was very close. Didn't want to chance wrecking expensive BFG tires. Here is the video: ruclips.net/video/H31u9qQTKAM/видео.html I need to get spacers or I should have gotten rims with a little less backspacing. That would eliminate the problem completely.
mossman381 so I can run my factory rims and tired no problem temporary until I get a set of tires money is tight or should I get a one inch spacer
I am not really sure. I don't remember them saying 17" or bigger when I bought mine. I had my original rims and tires on the truck and everything cleared.
did you had any bounce at the front end after installing them? I've put the same lift on a 93 blazer, with brand new coil springs and it bounces like a low rider! any idea why?
No bounce. Do you have good shocks installed?
Nice video thank u
i Like your video, only way bolt on lift kit. on a 2wd chevy S10, But there is a big injustest, on this. I saw your video and decided to lift my 2002 2wd, truck. so i got a maxtrack lift spindle kit with brake lines and shocks, with lift shacles for the rear. I noticed before I bought parts that one offered, the rear end flipkit , fabtech ft 7268-8. I have called fabtech about this part but it is no longer offered, discontinued. Problem is I LISSENED TO YOU. you said in your video that a person did not need a flip kit to make, truck level out. now i nave a truck that is lifted with the front way higher the the rear. and no easy way to raise the rear, and no shop will touch the rear end to raise it to level out truck, I woulder now how to level truck. NICE VIDeo ! I spent over 1000 dollars so far. what next
That is weird. My lift kit has the rear way higher than the front. What kit did you buy?
@@mossman381 the manufacturing company that made my kit is called maxtrax. Bought new spindles shocks brake lines shackles and rear shocks . Came in the kit. The problem now is the Friday in got about a 5 inch lift from this kit. I replaced all front end parts and put Moog Springs in the front. Put the shackles in the shocks in the back in the back only got about a two and a half inch lift . so I need another two and a half inch lift in the back. I used the shackles that maxtrac supplied in their kit Suspension is stiff. I wouldn't want to put a taller shackle on there because the one I have on there is pretty long. I believe I put it on a longer shackle on there, ride would be unruly stiff. I believe I need to do an axle flip on the rear to get the right suspension hide and ride. Involves welding new shackles on top of axle housing Arrowhead which no shop wants to do. I'm very surprised that you replied back to me. I wonder how to level this truck out. I sure would hate to have to take the lifting spindles off. But it might come to that. Thank you once again. I'm surprised you replied!
I reply to most comments and am always willing to help others. Do you have a link to the kit you used? 5" of lift on the front and 2.5" in the rear doesn't sound right. Usually the kits have a similar amount of lift so the vehicle is close to level. A shackle won't effect the ride. It doesn't change the spring rate of the leaf springs. I longer shackle or an add-a-leaf lift for your rear springs. The add-a-leaf will make your suspension stiffer.
Sorry I don't have time right now to look up my maxtrac part number and what not at the moment. Preciate your help. Who else makes a flip kit? I need a flip kit to get me that extra two maybe three inch lift in the back. Here's a picture of my truck and I'll came out. I put news Moog stock Springs in front. And all Moog ball joints tie rod ends everything's new energy suspension polyurethane bushings in a arms. Here's a picture of my truck! Looks like I can't send you a picture of my truck but I thought I could. Who makes the flip kit for an S10 2 wheel drive tell me buddy please.?!
As far as I know you can't get a flip kit anymore. I found a MaxTrac 3" lift kit for $697. According to the what I saw they only put a 1" lift shackle in the kit. That won't be enough. If you did use a 1" lift shackle you need a longer one.
Good work 💪
Where did you find the diff cover?
Will this work on a 1999 s10
did you use spring compressors to get those new springs in?
I made this tool ruclips.net/video/O85Y2V2A-c0/видео.html
What about lift coils and ball joint flip there's more lift to be had
I don't think there is any need to lift more. The 4.3 isn't going to turn huge tires very well. Then the axles aren't meant for huge tires either. You can modify anything to do anything if you have the money. I am just trying to fit 31" tires under this one.
@@mossman381 then all you needed was a body lift lol I think, once you take off on the tube, come back and slap the coils and body lift. The sky is the limit, that's what the s stands for
@@chrisgosselin6399 I don't like body lifts. They are the cheap way to lift. Much better to lift with the suspension. I think the s stands for small. These are very small trucks.
I also used to hate on them for there gross body gaps but I noticed blazers naturally sit higher on the frame a 2in body lift will make a stock s10 show the same amount of frame as a blazer I feel the 2in keeps the body safer if you ever bottom out in a hole or going over a steep ledge. 3in Body lifts tho not advertised do fit second gens but from the side it dose show quite a bit of frame but you can fit 33 by 13.5 on 10in rims if you push it to the limit
Did you need to replace the drive shaft
No
Very nice video
Great video! I just did a rear lift the same way with the same brackets. I had a quick question. Did you get longer shocks for the rear? If so, what kind? Thanks.
I got factory size shocks from Advance Auto. Went with the good Monroe shocks. Seems to be working fine. You have to have the truck on the ground to install them.
mossman381 thanks a lot! Appreciate it
mossman381 one more quick question bud. I finished the installation but I seem to have extreme negative camber. Did you have to get new upper control arms? My spindle seems slanted with causes the camber issue. Let me know. Thanks.
With a spindle lift everything should have stayed like the factory as far as camber. I am running factory control arms top and bottom.
Do have to use the rear flip kit or does it matter
You are going to have a hard time finding that flip kit. They don't make it anymore. You can do a shackle lift in the back to match the spindle lift. A lot easier too.
mossman381 summit has em I just checked
They have a lift kit with shackle lift for the rear. You won't find a rear flip kit.
mossman381 summit racing has a flip kit I just went there yesterday and looked em up
did u have issues with this spindle hole being too big for the ball joint/
No
@@mossman381 say can not use stock rims and use 17" or bigger rims? yours look stock
Where can I get one for a 1993
Hi I wanna know where you got the axle Lift flip kit thanks
Got it used on Ebay. They don't make the kit anymore.
Ok so I want to do this but what should I do as far as the rear flip kit? I cannot find the other bracket anywhere
Look at my top post in the comments.
I like what u did their
Can you use these same items on a 2 door blazer???
Not sure.
Ok so if you flip the axle though wouldnt reverse be forward and vise versa
It's not actually "flipped" its just repositioned. Axle sits on top of leaf springs. You're just putting the axle under the leaf springs which obviously raises the ass end up higher. The axles is approximately 3.5 inches so by moving it from on top to underneath is how you get the 3+ inches of lift.
Would the kit go to the 1996.
I think so but you should verify that the kit you buy will fit.
Would you need different parts to lift a 4x4 2003 s10?
The rear would be the same but the front is very different on a 4x4.
All that rust is why you spray down the underside after you drive salted roads .
What kind of wheels and tires are you gonna run?
The video is coming soon :) I think you can probably guess the tires by now.
You should of put a set of upper and lower A arms.
The project has already really gone too far for what the truck is. Had to stop spending money at some point. The control arms are fine. They have some scale but they solid.
Is everything you need to lift a 98 s10 2wd 4.3 in your description??
My truck is a 2001. I think the 98 would be the same but I would recommend you put your truck specs in your Amazon garage. Then you can check to see if the parts will fit your truck.
@@mossman381 are they pretty accurate on knowing if they fit.
I have found it to be pretty reliable.
Shouldn’t the line be in front of that caliper and not through that ball joint?
Good video. Nice editing.
Good work.
The factory line does go in front. With the lift spindles the line will hit the ball joint. You would need a 90° bend to run the factory way. I like the way I have it run. It's out of the way and has good length for turning and full suspension drop.
if anyone knows, will this spindle lift kit prevent tire rub on 235/75r15 ?
It won’t
mossman dis the geometry of the control arms change
Control arms should be in the same place as the factory spindle.
Where did you get the new hubs from
Local CARQUEST.
What’s the point of lifting a 2wd though?
What's the point of lifting any vehicle? To fit bigger tires. I have no use for a low truck.
I have a 94 s10 4x4 8 inch's on 35s truck became useless for everyday use it's a toy I also have a 95 2 wheel I'm 6.5 and broke my hip 2 years ago Im looking to lift my 2 wheel drive to get in and out of it because it sit so low factory plus with a mini spool these 2 wheel drives go just about anywhere my 4 wheel can plus u have 22x14 I'm wanting to fit under it look at it as you spend your money your way I'll spend mine did a 80 luv like this 20 years ago it's now a pre runner and a 4.3 with a stall and a 700r4 I go places 4x4 can't and I can fly pretty high
I definitely would have replaced the control arms as rusted up as that whole thing is LoL
They are solid.
Disturbed.S10 this guy knows what he’s doing when it comes to rust that much is certain
Where can I find 2 or 3inch lift kit for 1989 Chevy S10 2 W/D
Quick search will find many products. I got my stuff on Ebay.
rough country sells the kit
Can someone link the fab tech shackle flip kit for this truck?
I don't think it's made anymore.
Lifting a 2 WD?
Why not just get a 4x4?
That is all explained in earlier videos but the short version is it was my grandpa's last truck. I have no use for a low 2wd truck.
Plus some of us cant afford a 4x4
Where can i get this flip kit
I don't think they make the kit anymore.
@@mossman381 where did you get it tho ill search and see if i can find it
I found it on Ebay.
@@mossman381 okay im looking for some to do the axle flip on my 03
@@mossman381 they still have them but i haven’t came across the ones like you got where its got the plate for the bump stops