Why does everyone dislike this? It's a video explaining how Darren did the experiment, and I find it awesome that someone has put this video together. It shows us that Darren used a prerecorded video to trick the contestants into thinking they had actually thrown the tambourine and punched the curtains. They actually didn't do anything.
You're getting thing completely wrong. Rather than being a stage-erforming 'magician', Derren is a psychological illusionist (not to say that he doen't perform the odd 'magic trick' here and there) Daniels and Copperfield are entertaining in their own right, but Derren Brown is 'cutting edge' and 'new' in the light of him bringing such psychological illusions to the forefront of his show, rather than relying on sexy girls, explosions and dry ice.
According to wikipedia: "In his book, Tricks of the Mind, Brown reveals that, contrary to claims when the show was aired, Séance did not go out live. He said it was necessary to make people believe that it did at the time.[19]" So there would have been plenty of time to edit out parts of the video before it was shown. There need have been no prerecording. The main video of the entire room was edited, the spirit cabinet wasn't edited, this explains why main video is shorter than the cabinet video
Also, if you were to research and read Tricks of the Mind, Derren's utterly FANTASTIC book, you'll know that the show was not aired live...it was just made to 'feel' live to enhance the effects for the viewers.
I saw him do this live last night. I have no idea how lol, he had like 3 people in it at one time and he opened the curtain too fast for the people to do anything. Itwas freaky and cool. I love it!! He tied this girl up and blinfolded her and the bell still rang, and the black board had this name on it this other dude had written down. It was great!
I also saw him do this live in Grimsby last night as part of the enigma tour, amazing to see it happening live, spoke to the woman who he'd put into the cabinet after and she cant remember doing any of it, very, very clever.
No video editing required...the girl was handling the tambourine herself, as was shown later. She had no conscious memory of doing so because he'd hypnotised her before she sat down. You can clearly see this happening.
She wasn't a stooge, and the CCTV was not edited in any way. They split up the screen and have 2 signals coming into the video. Then they have to align the videos so they match up. The just didn't do a good job there and that is why Caldesilk thinks this is some kind of a scam.
Hmmm that does seem suspicious- especially the fact that the curtain throwing matched but the tambourine throwing didn't? I'm all for people analyzing Derren's effects this way. I always love to hear other people's theories, etc.
Mr. Brown is a master of misdirection. How he achieves his effects are what he is most dishonest about. I believe he uses much simpler methods than anyone realizes. "The System" special is a great example of what I believe he is doing during in a lot of his video clips. Only letting you win. You have to flip a coin thousands of times to get it to land heads ten times in a row. He shows you that miracle and lets your mind be confounded into believing the impossible and just revel in the wonder.
...he explains in his book 'Tricks of the Mind' that it was not live and it was just claimed to be live to get people to feel they were part of it, part of the trick. It's not 'rigged', the trick worked as planned, it works on the viewers.
they cut to an identical feed just as the curtain is closed in sync and its so dark inside you cant see the woman but they messed up the timing and somone sneaked into the curtains and threw it too early... no other explanation that the feeds will go out of sync instantly
What I mean is, he's out right said it wasn't live. They had to say it'd be live to make people believe the stuff about the spirit. If you're going to attack something, attack something that the attackee hasn't actually stated themselves.
I always enjoyed magicians that pretend they are really supernatural. From the Davenport Brothers to Uri Geller to Sylvia Brown and the Long Island Medium. It's called 'working strong' and you NEVER even give a wink and a nod. There's a second person and that can easily be deduced ( Even a ROLLED-UP back curtain can contain a person). GREAT TRICK!!!
I know it's not magic, but the question remains: just why doesn't the tambourine get thrown at the same time in both clips? Neither of them looks like it was edited to me. Was it done in multiple takes?
er... right, are you not aware it wasn't actually live? Although the delay of the tambourine throwing is weird, the other points are invalid. I think it's just a few cuts to be honest.
what part of magic, suggestion, psychology, misdirection and showmanship don't you understand? Under the category of magic alone anything goes to achieve the illusion.
two points: First one. How did u come with this idea of comparing the vids ?, I think it´s very interesting. Second point. What did U try to prove ?, I don´t get it.
oh my goodness!! Derren tells us fans that it's all fake!! .. He knows he doesn't possess any sort of supernatural powers and that its all a trick using 'psychology, misdirection and showman-ship" ... He respects his audience by letting know that.. of course its all bloody fake!! Where you expecting him to use real magical powers? because there's no such thing!
It is called video editing and it is used in 100% of today's programs! The video at the right is raw because it could not be edited and the one at the left have been cut to keep the rhythm of the program. There is not video trick here, just a waste of time.
I'm Sorry to burst your bubble and all that but, the 'cctv' footage wasn't in the original transmion. also i think you will find that he was showing the 'live' aduance how it was done AFTER the show as part of the cool down. What you have found is just a bad bit of editing.
how can it be an edit... its shown what happens in the other footage... and i have seen derren perform this live twice in his enigma show.... what is wrong with you? in a nice way...
i don't think you have any concept of video editing and seem to foolishly assume that both left and right videos are real-time. also field video editing is ridiculously easy, i could cut out segments from a video in 30 seconds or less in the field to show only what's relevant.
But what he does is interesting anyway i don't know what your saying everyone knows that he doesn't claim to be phsycic or any other supernatural thing, so what are you saying,. His work on suggestability is interesting and what he does with subliminal messages is phsycological, you need to keep an open mind when watching his stuff. he's never claimed to be a scientist or even that he's doing a scientific experiment.
You're getting thing completely wrong. Rather than being a stage-erforming 'magician', Derren is a psychological illusionist (not to say that he doen't perform the odd 'magic trick' here and there) Daniels and Copperfield are entertaining in their own right, but Derren Brown is 'cutting edge' and 'new' in the light of him bringing such psychological illusions to the forefront of his show, rather than relying on sexy girls, explosions and dry ice.
Why does everyone dislike this? It's a video explaining how Darren did the experiment, and I find it awesome that someone has put this video together. It shows us that Darren used a prerecorded video to trick the contestants into thinking they had actually thrown the tambourine and punched the curtains. They actually didn't do anything.
when he revealed the show was fake he didn't mean that the people involved were stooges.
If the tambourine doesn't fly, you don't get to be on tv. I'd throw it, too.
You're getting thing completely wrong. Rather than being a stage-erforming 'magician', Derren is a psychological illusionist (not to say that he doen't perform the odd 'magic trick' here and there)
Daniels and Copperfield are entertaining in their own right, but Derren Brown is 'cutting edge' and 'new' in the light of him bringing such psychological illusions to the forefront of his show, rather than relying on sexy girls, explosions and dry ice.
yea, very good point. the curtain closing is in sync but the tambourine throwing was delayed.
According to wikipedia: "In his book, Tricks of the Mind, Brown reveals that, contrary to claims when the show was aired, Séance did not go out live. He said it was necessary to make people believe that it did at the time.[19]" So there would have been plenty of time to edit out parts of the video before it was shown. There need have been no prerecording. The main video of the entire room was edited, the spirit cabinet wasn't edited, this explains why main video is shorter than the cabinet video
Also, if you were to research and read Tricks of the Mind, Derren's utterly FANTASTIC book, you'll know that the show was not aired live...it was just made to 'feel' live to enhance the effects for the viewers.
I saw him do this live last night. I have no idea how lol, he had like 3 people in it at one time and he opened the curtain too fast for the people to do anything. Itwas freaky and cool. I love it!! He tied this girl up and blinfolded her and the bell still rang, and the black board had this name on it this other dude had written down. It was great!
@clivebull1 Derren Brown has stated that he has never used nor will he ever use stooges.
I also saw him do this live in Grimsby last night as part of the enigma tour, amazing to see it happening live, spoke to the woman who he'd put into the cabinet after and she cant remember doing any of it, very, very clever.
No video editing required...the girl was handling the tambourine herself, as was shown later. She had no conscious memory of doing so because he'd hypnotised her before she sat down. You can clearly see this happening.
he didn't hypnotise her. you have been fooled by a simple trick
dearren brown is a genius
This is NOT to be confused with the original Spirit Cabinet with Francis Willard, the ORIGINATOR'S decendent. TOTALLY different and CONFINED.
She wasn't a stooge, and the CCTV was not edited in any way. They split up the screen and have 2 signals coming into the video. Then they have to align the videos so they match up. The just didn't do a good job there and that is why Caldesilk thinks this is some kind of a scam.
The pictures run in time,particularly at the end,when the tambourine ejects.If they run in time why the delay?!
Hmmm that does seem suspicious- especially the fact that the curtain throwing matched but the tambourine throwing didn't? I'm all for people analyzing Derren's effects this way. I always love to hear other people's theories, etc.
Mr. Brown is a master of misdirection. How he achieves his effects are what he is most dishonest about. I believe he uses much simpler methods than anyone realizes. "The System" special is a great example of what I believe he is doing during in a lot of his video clips. Only letting you win. You have to flip a coin thousands of times to get it to land heads ten times in a row. He shows you that miracle and lets your mind be confounded into believing the impossible and just revel in the wonder.
...he explains in his book 'Tricks of the Mind' that it was not live and it was just claimed to be live to get people to feel they were part of it, part of the trick. It's not 'rigged', the trick worked as planned, it works on the viewers.
they cut to an identical feed just as the curtain is closed in sync and its so dark inside you cant see the woman but they messed up the timing and somone sneaked into the curtains and threw it too early... no other explanation that the feeds will go out of sync instantly
he does lie....but he admits it. Its part of the game.
He even said so in his book!
Nice I liked this...
What I mean is, he's out right said it wasn't live. They had to say it'd be live to make people believe the stuff about the spirit. If you're going to attack something, attack something that the attackee hasn't actually stated themselves.
I always enjoyed magicians that pretend they are really supernatural. From the Davenport Brothers to Uri Geller to Sylvia Brown and the Long Island Medium. It's called 'working strong' and you NEVER even give a wink and a nod. There's a second person and that can easily be deduced ( Even a ROLLED-UP back curtain can contain a person). GREAT TRICK!!!
Does anybody know where I can see the whole Séance thing, please message me if you do!! Or somebody please upload it.
i wouldnt read too much into it. just a litlle edit for tv. its clear what is going on
Maybe they edited out a couple of seconds? Apart from the curtain thing everything is is identicle...
I know it's not magic, but the question remains: just why doesn't the tambourine get thrown at the same time in both clips? Neither of them looks like it was edited to me. Was it done in multiple takes?
er... right, are you not aware it wasn't actually live?
Although the delay of the tambourine throwing is weird, the other points are invalid.
I think it's just a few cuts to be honest.
what part of magic, suggestion, psychology, misdirection and showmanship don't you understand? Under the category of magic alone anything goes to achieve the illusion.
The footage on the left has been cut, purely for entertainment and duration purposes,. I don't know what you re trying to prove?
If you think this isnt real then type in on youtube ' Spirit Cabinet Revealed' and click on the first one the old one, its definetly real
two points:
First one. How did u come with this idea of comparing the vids ?, I think it´s very interesting.
Second point. What did U try to prove ?, I don´t get it.
oh my goodness!! Derren tells us fans that it's all fake!! .. He knows he doesn't possess any sort of supernatural powers and that its all a trick using 'psychology, misdirection and showman-ship" ... He respects his audience by letting know that.. of course its all bloody fake!! Where you expecting him to use real magical powers? because there's no such thing!
It is called video editing and it is used in 100% of today's programs! The video at the right is raw because it could not be edited and the one at the left have been cut to keep the rhythm of the program.
There is not video trick here, just a waste of time.
The seance wasn't live... I don't understand the point of this?
So how does this work live then? Because he has does this trick many, many times on tour.
I don't know
so?
I'm Sorry to burst your bubble and all that but, the 'cctv' footage wasn't in the original transmion. also i think you will find that he was showing the 'live' aduance how it was done AFTER the show as part of the cool down. What you have found is just a bad bit of editing.
how can it be an edit... its shown what happens in the other footage... and i have seen derren perform this live twice in his enigma show.... what is wrong with you? in a nice way...
you are missing the point of Derren Brown
Personally, I find that girl in the spirit cabinet quite hot.
people will always try to debunk derren brown and showmen like him. what's the point though? enjoy the show, maaan...
mate he performed the same thing live! go and watch 'enigma;!!!!!1
I wished it really was hypnosis. :( Now I'm dissapointed in Derren.
I'm not permitted to say. -_-
i don't think you have any concept of video editing and seem to foolishly assume that both left and right videos are real-time. also field video editing is ridiculously easy, i could cut out segments from a video in 30 seconds or less in the field to show only what's relevant.
But what he does is interesting anyway i don't know what your saying everyone knows that he doesn't claim to be phsycic or any other supernatural thing, so what are you saying,. His work on suggestability is interesting and what he does with subliminal messages is phsycological, you need to keep an open mind when watching his stuff. he's never claimed to be a scientist or even that he's doing a scientific experiment.
you have to much time on your hands :D
I just think it's cool :|
yes , I knew it, all his shows are riged
no
You're getting thing completely wrong. Rather than being a stage-erforming 'magician', Derren is a psychological illusionist (not to say that he doen't perform the odd 'magic trick' here and there)
Daniels and Copperfield are entertaining in their own right, but Derren Brown is 'cutting edge' and 'new' in the light of him bringing such psychological illusions to the forefront of his show, rather than relying on sexy girls, explosions and dry ice.