"Foreign Students Undermining Higher Education" Says UK Home Secretary | Vantage with Palki Sharma
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- Опубликовано: 12 мар 2024
- "Foreign Students Undermining Higher Education" Says UK Home Secretary | Vantage with Palki Sharma
UK home secretary James Cleverly has said international students may be “undermining the integrity and quality of the UK higher education system”. Home secretary calls for visa review over concern that courses are being used as shortcut to gain work permits. This has left universities concerned. Foreign students numbers have already fallen by 33% this year and it could dip more if such statements continue. So why is London targeting foreign students? Palki Sharma tells you.
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No student should go where they are not respected.
Those who go there have limited options
@@defence3355 really? they have to spend thousands of dollars and they have no option you are joking
@@tarunshroti3255NO IT'S THEIR CHOICE
and no student should manipulate their education at the expense of others
Yes, please dont come to Canada
They will take u r Money and call u a thief,
Be careful students..
The students chose it
@@gokulkrishna4011 That's fine everyone choses the path they think it's gonna better there life, just be wise enough to not walk in to a trap, where people show u what u wanted to see till they they take what they wanted from you and then blame you for not being smart or careful enough,
@athmakur01 If u have guts u must be willing to take back whatever belongs to you . Once u have enough guts no one will think of cheating u
Britishers have a habit of cheating @@gokulkrishna4011
Tons of foreign students deserve no respect, tons of them are not there for study to begin with, they just want a job and abandon university as soon as they can, I know several example of those.
I had initially planned to retire at 62, work part-time, and save money, but the impact of high prices on various goods and services has significantly disrupted my retirement plan. I'm worried about whether those who experienced the 2008 financial crisis had it easier than I currently am. The volatility of the stock market is a concern as my income has decreased, and I fear that I won't be able to contribute as much as before, potentially jeopardizing my retirement savings.
The increasing prices have impacted my plan to retire at 62, work part-time, and save for the future. I'm concerned about whether those who navigated the 2008 financial crisis had an easier time than I am currently experiencing. The combination of stock market volatility and a decrease in income is causing anxiety about whether I'll have sufficient funds for retirement.
Thank you for the lead. I searched her up, and I sent her an email. I hope she gets back to me soon.
Scamming rats.
Scam trend. People watch out.
That’s my plan but I’m doing that in a country that pays well and allows me to save over half of what I earn ; something that can’t be done in the UK
U know the funny thing I say, I worked in Burgur King in Hatfield in the UK and I met University Graduate 1 have 2 bachelors degrees and 2 master degrees and he wasn't able to get a skilled job but the guy was a chineese genius. The UK has many talented foreign students and foreign immigrants who can contribute to their growth however they the UK Economy and Goverment does not have the skilled jobs. So skilled people end up working odd jobs in restaurants, heath care services, warehousing ext.
@@jain78343 Where are you doing your masters from and what's your major?
@@jain78343 Did you did any spring/ summer internships? And what are like the demographics of your class, ethnicity/nationality wise?
@barneystinson6494 Yeah, I did an internship in the summer. My class is full of asian people, but i get it because it's computer science and that too masters. But the university has very few foreigners. It's like if you leave my class, there are only 10 - 20 percent asians.
unless you study in Oxbridge or Imperial College
Well majority of Indian students look to just migrate and stay over .They have no intention of studying.
Foreign students pay SIGNIFICANTLY more in student fees; most times more than double the fees for local students. My advice is to go elsewhere.
Its to stop back door immigration that is the huge point missed in the story. The UK is full
They are in effect subsidising the fees of the British students, currently standing at £9250.
So my advice is, if that's what the British people want, then study in another country. When fees for British people significantly rise, my answer is you can not have the icing and cherry on the cake, don't complain.
All foreign students have to pay higher fees. I went to university with many foreign students. Most of them returned home after finishing their studies. Some of them stayed on to do further courses or got skilled jobs. What they did not do is bring their whole families over or whinge on that they could not bring their whole families over to live here permanently.
My advice is to stay in their own country.
Of course local student should pay less than foreign students. Their parents have been paying their taxes to the UK, what about yours?
No International students should go to the UK.
The UK is no longer making the environment conducive for international students.
The UK government is hostile to the international student!
Cleverly - that name doesn't suits him well, not clever enough !!! 🤣🤣🤣
your iq?
Better than yours lol@@user-bp1bk8tj5x
@@user-bp1bk8tj5x no he is not iq he is some user on the internet.
😂😂@@Shivang4
Indians spending 2 million rupee to work as a barista, janitor and waiters while their employer exploits them as they come back to share their flat room with 5 others are the real clever ones.
Some of the students get study visa to get into a university and then they skip the colleges and they work at small businesses unofficially. But they will still be paying the tuition fee. They work in two jobs so they send around 2 lakh home. That has been happening here. This is happening for low level colleges at UK. So dont think everyone is targeting others. There can be genuine concerns.
I second that ☝️
True!!
Finally someone with a brain. The UK is full.
Exactly!
Finally, you're a thinking man.
Once they try to run universities without international student's money they'll understand
They are only taking rich chinese students because chinese students pay cash 💰. They are not even taking their own, and then they have the audacities to blame the international students. Let's Go Cleverly!
The UK can survive without you, dear.
@@TheSereneWanderer87sure buddy
@@TheSereneWanderer87İndians Bro.. They Always Proud about it, Tell us How SuperPowerfull İndia is and have Number 1 Gdp Economic Cauntry Bla Bla Bla but Guess What, all of them want go Outside.. Now they cry about it on RUclips😂😂 ıf they dont like then why Keep going 😢😢😢
@@TheSereneWanderer87just be playing
As someone who's lived in the UK for years there's one thing I've observed when it comes to post study here, a majority of foreign students(foreigners) will not get those jobs they are reserved for the brits!!! Sorry Most of you will end up working in restaurants factories the gig economy and if you frugal enough to save up for a hgv licence(5000 pounds) that's the best you'll archive.... Plus you'll need a lawyer to help with your status to get permanent residency which might cost almost 7000 pounds for a five year route.... Please came to the UK knowing all this
Truth ❤
How do you think the native population feel.
@@MaryRead-1685 about what exactly
No need to get a post grad degree if you can't get a job
Which is great , every country must look after its citizens
I was one of the international students in the UK and purely only focused on getting my degree and worked part time jobs related to my degree to get revelant experience. This was also during the time Theresa May was prime minister and the post graduate visa was removed. This was the year brexit was voted in as well. I spent a lot on living expenses and travelling around the UK. Of course it was disappointing i couldn't stay longer but reading the political climate back then it seemed wiser to start my career somewhere else and until now it was still a good decision.
where do you suggest international student to look for career?
@@maggienoodle42they should go home and start contributing to their own countries
They say that students are studying there for a work visa as if it wasn't obvious. Its not a few bad actors 90% of students won't go abroad if they dont get access to high salary jobs, they will lose thier education export industry without atleast the opportunity of a work visa.
Brits just want international students to pay the highest fees and come back so that brits can just thrive their billion pound university business on going .
I pray all international students boycott UK .
Will you take in students from pakistan or bangladesh?
Exactly, coming from someone who lives in a developing country, going to school abroad is for one specific end goal and that is a chance to immigrate…
@@fairykelsie and they dont want it. It's not your call.
@@coldestbeer fair enough they don't want us, and it's within their legal rights to stop these visas, just pointing out that it would destroy their own country also in terms of ethics they are in the wrong (given that many places are poor because they plundered them)
Its good thing in my view, majority of students dont go abroad for quality education but either to escape the competition or due to mindset that they will study in "high standard " colleges.
Nothing bad in all that if it doesnt cost more than their house's worth. Anyone who is wasting millions abroad can literally start a business in India and earn probably better than the alternative.
Its high time we break this chain. Its nothing more than another form of slavery.
They might perhaps loved to become a slave
Stockholm syndrome is a real thing😂@@gokulkrishna4011
it's modern colonialism@@gokulkrishna4011
Most students going out of India go due to the lack of sufficient university seats and to escape the quota system. The grind is too hard locally, making British and other Western universities fairly easy for them.
The government should replace reservation with free coaching for backward castes but all students must face the examinations equally.
@utkarshg.bharti9714 University abroad is better than in India focusing more on learning than grades and professors are very helpful to students.If you think its only about seats you are thinking wrong.I am in US and came with experience though I was earning more than most people of my age and I know quality of life is better here than living in an place that is overpopulated and among people interfering in my life.Not everyone thinks about just money.
Don’t go to the UK, France, Spain or other places are more attractive and respectful. The UK has too many socioeconomic issues and the level of racism is just nonsensical. Let it go and invest in other countries.
Yeah black home secretary Indian prime minister. very racist.
Racism in the UK? Lol
@@benbim540as an indian, your pm is not indian at all he is brit.
@@sumukhshankarhegde2853 Yes he is but the point she was making was the UK is RASCIST and yet people of colour seem to do much better here than anywhere else. As u can see below.
Humphrey Vaughan ap David Gething (born 1974) is a Welsh Labour and Co-operative politician who has served as First Minister of Wales and the leader of Welsh Labour since 2024. He previously served as the Minister for Health and Social Services from 2016 to 2021 and Minister for the Economy from 2021 to 2024. He has been the Member of the Senedd (MS) for Cardiff South and Penarth since 2011. In March 2024, Gething won the Welsh Labour leadership election to replace Mark Drakeford and become First Minister of Wales, making him the first black leader of any European country. is of African descent.
Olukemi Olufunto "Kemi" Badenoch is a British politician serving as Secretary of State for Business and Trade since 2023 and President of the Board of Trade and Minister for Women and Equalities since 2022. Is of African descent.
Lieutenant Colonel James Spencer Cleverly TD VR (born 4 September 1969) is a British politician and Army Reserve officer who has served as Home Secretary since November 2023 and is of African descent.
Sue-Ellen Cassiana "Suella" Braverman KC née Fernandes; born 3 April 1980) is a British politician and barrister who served as Home Secretary from 6 September 2022 to 19 October 2022, and again from 25 October 2022 to 13 November 2023. is of is of African and Asian descent.
Dame Priti Sushil Patel DBE (born 29 March 1972) is a British politician who served as Home Secretary from 2019 to 2022. A member of the Conservative Party, she was Secretary of State for International Development from 2016 to 2017 Patel was born in London to a Ugandan-Indian family.
Sir Sajid Javid born 5 December 1969) is a British politician who served as Secretary of State for Health and Social Care from June 2021 to July 2022, having previously served as Home Secretary from 2018 to 2019 and Chancellor of the Exchequer from 2019 to 2020 is of Asian descent.
Humza Haroon Yousaf born 7 April 1985) is a Scottish politician who has served as First Minister of Scotland and Leader of the Scottish National Party (SNP) since March 2023. He served under his predecessor Nicola Sturgeon as justice secretary from 2018 to 2021 and then as health secretary from 2021 to 2023. is of Asian descent. plus the mayor of London is of Asian descent.
@Frederique41 Do France and Spain have this many people of colour in high positions in fact do the have any in high positions. The UK IS THE LEAST RASCIST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD I see no other country where ethnic minorities are in so many positions of power.
Humphrey Vaughan ap David Gething (born 1974) is a Welsh Labour and Co-operative politician who has served as First Minister of Wales and the leader of Welsh Labour since 2024. He previously served as the Minister for Health and Social Services from 2016 to 2021 and Minister for the Economy from 2021 to 2024. He has been the Member of the Senedd (MS) for Cardiff South and Penarth since 2011. In March 2024, Gething won the Welsh Labour leadership election to replace Mark Drakeford and become First Minister of Wales, making him the first black leader of any European country. is of African descent.
Olukemi Olufunto "Kemi" Badenoch is a British politician serving as Secretary of State for Business and Trade since 2023 and President of the Board of Trade and Minister for Women and Equalities since 2022. Is of African descent.
Lieutenant Colonel James Spencer Cleverly TD VR (born 4 September 1969) is a British politician and Army Reserve officer who has served as Home Secretary since November 2023 and is of African descent.
Sue-Ellen Cassiana "Suella" Braverman KC née Fernandes; born 3 April 1980) is a British politician and barrister who served as Home Secretary from 6 September 2022 to 19 October 2022, and again from 25 October 2022 to 13 November 2023. is of African and Asian descent.
Dame Priti Sushil Patel DBE (born 29 March 1972) is a British politician who served as Home Secretary from 2019 to 2022. A member of the Conservative Party, she was Secretary of State for International Development from 2016 to 2017 Patel was born in London to a Ugandan-Indian family. is of African and Asian descent.
Sir Sajid Javid born 5 December 1969) is a British politician who served as Secretary of State for Health and Social Care from June 2021 to July 2022, having previously served as Home Secretary from 2018 to 2019 and Chancellor of the Exchequer from 2019 to 2020 is of Asian descent.
Humza Haroon Yousaf born 7 April 1985) is a Scottish politician who has served as First Minister of Scotland and Leader of the Scottish National Party (SNP) since March 2023. He served under his predecessor Nicola Sturgeon as justice secretary from 2018 to 2021 and then as health secretary from 2021 to 2023. is of Asian descent.
plus the mayor of London is of Asian descent.
Dear UK. We thank you for this move. Atleast this move will knock some sense to some kids who want to go and study abroad for namesake.
Wooowww! Great comment. I wrote the same above.. do read 😊
Make sense now..
You're just being jealous 😭
@@enoskennedy1120 No, you are just being ignorant!
Such a correct opinion from parent a guess
When u children disturb you that they want to go abroad for a study and parents that love their kids ready to sell lands cars in order to make their kids happy
Which rubbish work pays the school fees the thicket house rent feeding
The job is not significant in total amount needed
Journalist did not know what she is saying
As a parent of a student that I sponsor to uk I can tell you that
The money needed to travel and even pay first deposit is so huge that their job of 10 pound per hour and total of 20 h allowed per week is rubbish
Children of rich families go for such courses
I got a PhD from the UK and it is next to worthless. Universities globally want PhD graduates from the States. So if you are looking for postgraduate studies, go to the States and avoid the UK at all costs. It’s an ungrateful country to the enormous economic contributions made by international students.
I guess you paid more attention to your care job instead of learning practical skills during your PhD
unless you study in Oxbridge or Imperial College
You've earned a PhD for which you applied, worked hard, and achieved. What more could you desire? Your purpose for coming here has been fulfilled; now, return whence you came, implement your learnings, and pursue your goals. What are your expectations? If you wish to work in the UK, that's a distinct path requiring a separate application. Don't deem your PhD worthless; you chose it, studied for it, and attained it. What more could you seek from the UK?
Rather blaming the gov be thankful to it that you have gained some knowledge which you haven’t gained in your country
The irony lol. You sound extremely ungrateful yourself.
It depends on what specialization you have completed. A PhD in computer science or mathematics is still valid any western countries if you have published three papers . You can apply for post doctoral research positions in US or Europe Or Australia or even China . So don’t think your PhD is invalid . Focus on developing your CV and publishing high quality papers.
Well you can't blame them, I have seen a lot of Indians who come here in the name of education and then change their visa to health care visa with the help of agents. Many don't even go to universities which affects their university's rankings on the global stage. If you come here and study and then look for a job that's understandable, and that is what the govt of the UK wants. Many abuse the law and still blame them for taking actions against people who misuse their laws 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Some second tier universities are also responsible for the mess. They just take anyone who can pay.
I've seen simialr situations. But what they do is take a course in something useless/easy in order to pass and then get whatever full-time job when they graduate.
@@frcluc Almost all our low paid jobs are filled by these students because our unemployed benefit brigade do not want to get up in the early morning.
@@garygeorge-wi7co Thank you for confirming that illegal employment exists.
Classic example of how you cut the same branch you are sitting on.
I am Indian living here since long and UK home secretary is very very True. University most are useless unless Oxford and Cambridge like. I have seen Indians students most most of them are here NOT for study but to work only. I have people who has told me they are here to work only and student visa is only a route.....they do UBER DRIVER JOBS SPITING PAN MASALA everywhere. I have seen with my eyes. Universities care about money but its reaching really high limit as it affects lifestyle of people here. Government will have to take strict action they can't just do money things. GENUINE STUDENTS BRIGHT are always welcome. BUT most are very shady. Education in India is very good most just doesn't care to do it.
Cheap courses?? Int students pay 3 times more than a local for the same courses
Who is exploiting who ?
Not all universities charge three times. For many second tier universities , it is about 30 to 40 percent more.
Why should someone go to UK to study after paying 4 or 5 times more fees than what a local student pay?
Well UK anyway doesn't have enough skilled workers be glad that we're still upkeeping your economy.
What do you mean? Thousands of doctors, engineers, technicians have crossed the English Channel by dingy. And more are on the day. They are housed in hotels and villages homes.
Indians go there because of their desperation and poverty in India, miserable living conditions
@@rushyendras9156 I was an Indian student till last year, I'm making more than double of the average salary in the UK! And I know a lot of Indians and other international workers who are making over 100k easily, just for the context only 4% of the UK population makes over 100k! Sir you're extra dumb and extremely stupid to be on the internet!
Most things are computerised and few things are manufactured. No need of workers.
@@user-1rg9f2-g3l6d don't compare legal foreign students with those undocumented sea fairing refugees.
He is 100% right. It's a common occurrence now to see International students doing illegal jobs and paying for making dissertations and assignments. As the job market in the UK is not very promising, Students are just trying to get PSW and make as much money as they can make in 2 years and go back to their home country. The home office is aware of this for a long time and finally, they are taking strict action. All they want is law-abiding, honest and dedicated students, that's all
Wait till they innate a law that affects you then you will see otherwise
@@nelsonmayo8856 These laws affect me as well, just as they affect everyone else. When some of us do something wrong, everyone else has to pay the price. That's the sad part
Nicely articulated... Please refrain from attributing blame to the government. Instead, adopt a mindset geared towards returning to your homeland equipped with the knowledge gleaned from your university degree. Why persist in remaining abroad upon completing your studies? Regrettably, a vast majority of students arrive in the UK under the misconception that they can secure employment and settle here, which is wholly erroneous. Complete your studies, return to your country, and apply the lessons learnt. Should you desire to work, numerous opportunities abound, albeit with requisite adherence to regulations and associated costs. Blaming the government for any misconceptions is unjustified.
The UK should be thankfull for anywone with a higher education, who's coming in and starts working. As a student, you're charged by the university and even if you find a few courses that are affordable, you still have to pay for your stay,which is getting more and more unaffordable due to the UK's failing economy.
But it fits into the picture. The UK is taking in migrants and houses them in hotels, but they try to get rid of anyone coming legally as soon as possible.
Can anyone please tell the gentleman that students from Europe, who are coming, because their university requires them to study abroad for a short period of time, are affected as well?
The UK is becoming more and more entiteled, uninterested in true knowledge exchange. You can't do everything remote. People need to see each other, work and live together and form friendships.
Without people young people from other nations, the country drifts further down to mediocrity and provincialism.😢
@@devaabiwell said👍👍
If they don't want foreign students why not study in your home country. 76 billion dollars into those home economies
Because quality is not good in their home country, don't worry they'll find another country for higher education, it's not like UK is the only option.
Its not about quality, it is about competition and quantity @@ajaxjaiswal3442
its hard to get into a good uni in their home countries india and china have good unis but if you are not good enough to get in those you would try to get in a good uni in the west coz well they just have better infra and rankings and are basically pay to win if you have decent intellect hence its better to study in those unis than study in an avg uni in their home country
@@ajaxjaiswal3442 Yeah, Canada, the US, Russia, China are better.
@@morninglion27 so basically western universities have lower standards?
Actually he does have valid points. I'm in Canada and we have domestic students turned away because universities get higher tuition from foreign students. That's an issue. Also it's adding to the housing crisis here which is already quite bad. And one of the reasons why some foreign students come over is indeed to use it as an easier way to immigrate, since we have similar benefits, not necessarily because they are actually interested in the course they enrolled in. So I'd agree they need to look at and make changes to the system. We should be doing that here too.
The foreign students after their studies are finding it difficult to get jobs in the U.K. as many employers will not employ them. They end up doing some work for survival before returning home. The students wanting to study in foreign countries should look at the opportunities after they graduate, whether they have enough jobs in their field of work, does the country discriminate beacuse of colour, religion, ethnicity etc, how costly is housing and food, cost of transportation etc
On many counts U.K. is lagging behind
People complaining about foreign students, do you know how much international tuition fees are ? The UK cannot survive without international students don’t fool yourselves.
Who told you that? Too many people trying to come to the UK using student visas and abusing the system trying to bring entire families over and refusing to leave afterwards. The cost to the UK of the influx of immigrants is far greater and needs to be stopped
The problem is manipulating the system. There are lots of African ( and I'm African) students and students from all over disguising while they actually want to live in the UK. No one will keep understanding that nonsense. Stop gaslighting UK people
Let the UK people decide if they can survive or not without foreign students.
I enrolled for a so called reputed University course fee £16500, the quality of teaching was poor, it was a heart breaking loss, had I knew I wouldn't come. Also there were no local students in my batch some say they have segregated to give the worst possible teaching to the international students.
Very true
International students have ruined the Canadian housing market with landlords buying up all affordable family homes to rent out to international students and putting 8 people in a 2 bed room apartment. These students are also not in college and just out working 40 hours a week to send money back to India. It's impossible for Canadians to find entry level work, minimum wage jobs, or part time work because these students are willing to work below wage and safety standards.
Same situation in other countries like Australia
Wrong there are certain jobs canadians don't like to work at.Another us capacity building .It's like trying to fill a container of 5 ltrs with 10 ltrs of water.😂
well that's free market economy😂
The best way is to cap student visas . Means the government has to allocate certain amount of students per annum. This will allow universities to sustain and lower the flow of students.
Then who blame really? the greedy CANADIAN landlords? Your own CANADIAN government who allowed this?? At the end of the day its the greed of your own people no?
Madam
My daughter is uk in study visa
20 hours is not a solution to pay even a house rent of 600 pounds per month and the school fees is even above the sky
It’s parents that are paying bills from so called poor countries in Africa etc
Young ppl want to see the world that is why they travel for studies
travel elsewhere. They made it clear foreign students not welcomed.... so why go to a place that doesnt want you there?
If you’re coming to UK to study, why would you bring your whole family? 🤷♂️
This is the thing. It’s because they want to bring the whole family and move there permanently and now are whinging that one to the routes to so that is no longer available to them.
Because of the immigration route. Everybody know your university is garbage
He is right. These people are students and they should be there just for studying and go home once done. Use their knowledge gained to work and make their home economy strong.
Work experience matters, just studying books or doing small assignments will not give anyone a working knowledge of their field of education. That's why so many people hiring want an experienced employee while hiring. And everyone knows that in uni you mostly teach yourself. So basically what you are saying is that, give the uk money while you teach yourself and form connections with people, only to go away and not learn any practical knowledge of the trade you went to school for. It's just bad business
@@Shss701There is placements available while studying your stream. It's called a sandwich...once you do that, go back to your country. This is what UKVI ask you even before you were granted a visa.
UK education standards and reputation has fallen away. You should be grateful for foreign students bringing money to UK economy
Wheres Sunak? Whats he doing for his ppl?
Dont come then
I work in HR, Recruiting Process.
I see this every day, it's true. (Cheap studys, undermining the education..., just for work visa).
Its shocking to me how many people here don't understand, if you come in here as students with the intention to work full time. Its a scam.
indians lol
@@coldestbeerWhat don't you understand ? Why else would people bother spending so much for ? For a piece of useless paper ? Of course it's for jobs or opportunities lol. No one goes to another place, another job, etc for "experience". They go for better opportunities. You do it, they do it, everyone does it. Did you really think they came here for the "education" ? No, levels of education especially in China and India are pretty good, even better than west when it comes to STEM which is why so many PHDs, Doctors and Engineers are from there even if they didn't come here originally to study.
@@coldestbeer even if someone come for work legally,what's wrong with that bro?? he or she is paying tax,more important they are working not stealing money!!
@@urmisen4271 Stop working with student visa you scammer. You'll be sent back. Ta-ta.
Despite having this visa the companies are not hiring foreign students because this visa is for 2 years and companies think about future and they don’t want to spend money on sponsoring students so they are asking them if they have other arrangements to stay in the country or else they are rejected.
Same old Tories same old LIES and SAME OLD RACISM.
Racism? How is it racism? You guys just throw that word anyhow and when don't go your way. SMH
The situation is same in Australia. The solution is asking the full course fee from the students before beginning of the course. And not allowing them to register in colleges if their initial visa was issued upon enrolling for a University course. If they try to register for colleges ditching the University course they got the visa on, then their visa should be cancelled. Solution is there but most politicians don't want to take action.
This is definitely happening on a massive scale in the U.K. People are abusing the student route, most definitely
Lamo he seems more happy when the boats show up rather than planes..
This is an opportunity for Indian universities to build more capacity in higher education to retain Indian students in India
They are going by believing they can settle there ......
And implement more reservation
@@coldestbeer if people are able to change their religion, we must allow people to Chan their caste. This will end reservation problem
@@arunkottolli lol dont tell me, they won't change caste if it benefits them.
@@arunkottolli how many Brahmins will convert to Dalits to get reservation ?
Yep
I am now under graduate visa I studied finance, I payed tens of thousands of pounds to study at the end they put restrictions so sever that it’s almost impossible to find a job that is willing to sponsor us. How do you want a new graduate entry level to get a job at 38k and also a sponsorship? they didnt put this 38k rule in the healthcare sector, it’s just despicable.
I’m leaving anyway but I understand now why the UK is always referred to as a thief.
I find this truly despicable.
This all sounds good if International students paid the same fees as home students
In that case why you allowed student to switch on care visa unless they finish their studies and why you allowed peoples to come on carer visa without any english and knowledge about care sector…u used them and now u dont want them ….bravo
Why these people are to UK where they are not respect.
peer pleasure, they mostly go to foreign country for just telling "I DID PG in so and so country and XYZ university", Actually doing PG in foreign without scholarship is a Debt trap
@jai123480 "I did PG in social media marketing to work in canada as a barista at tim hortons" accurate enough?
@@coldestbeerkind off, even some of my friends went for UK and Canada paying 40+ Lakh (per year) which is insane for shitty university they chose, just for cheap peer pleasure. I don't think they would get back such amount though earning soon and the visa is going to get extended max 2 years i think beyond that if they don't get a job there they have to come to India only
During old days white skin people had slaves and paid them with money or food, Now these students are paying their own money and being a slave
They didn’t know before going. I’m sure that now they do.
I stopped taking him seriously he said it is a "cheap" way of entering the UK. An average student spends about £35,000 to £40,000 for 1 year of university education.
Many MBA course fees are less than fifteen thousand a year for international students.
What Cleverly is complaining about is a feature of the system, not a bug. Change the system if you like, don't complain because it's working the way it was designed to do.
James "cleverly" doesn't even look like a true british..african or arab probably..it is always the copycats who wants to impress the masters the most :)
I will always advise foreign students to neglect the UK higher institutions. Most foreign students pay x3 or x4 of the tuition fees than the local students. If foreign students stop attending the UK universities, the local students school fees will increase. They have used foreign students tuitions to make up some aspects in the universities. Post graduate and research studies are filled with foreign students.
UK is absolutely right.. Significant number of foreign students, specially from India and Nigeria abusing the student visa system. Many of these so called students abusing the student via route to enter UK, and staying illegally even after their visa expires. UK has every right to ensure only quality and genuine students come to the UK. So the graduate visa is under review to check, what exactly students are doing, after they complete their studies.
University places are really difficult to come by in the UK if you want to do medicine and we have a shortage of Doctors and a retention problem in the NHS
The British government is like a shop owner who you give 1000 dollars for a product and then they stare into the ceiling and pretend you are not there. You tell him "I have just given you 1000 dollars for the product" and he would reply: "what 1000 dollars? Leave now before I call the police!"
Not true. I am a foreign student here and honestly I really appreciate the experience I’m having so far.
@@Lumpyspaceranger I am not referring to the education experience necessarily. Uk universities are currently exclusively admitting rich chinese students because they would pay cash, unlike uk unis who pay through loans (and about one third the price). They are not even admitting uk students anymore. Mr. James Cleverly should investigate the UK unis and the home office itself and not the international students. He cannot criminalize the poor students for wanting to make a future or a living, especially that they are not breaking any laws. This fat cat probably has hundreds of thousands of pounds if not millions. Why do you think UK left the EU, because the EU meant regulation and fighting corruption, which the Uk did not want to do. International students pay about 2500 pounds per graduate student visa which is also called a job seeking visa. Look how much money they are making, and then they have the audacity to say that international students are not allowed to have any jobs. Why would you call it a job-seeking visa then?!
Quite contrary, the indian immigrant thinks he owns that shop for buying an expensive product.
@@coldestbeer 😂 😂 😂 you mean he thinks he has shares in the country now!
@@GregorSamsa000the UK left the EU because the British people voted to, it was not a decision by the government. In fact the government at the time did not want to leave.
Get your facts straight before commenting.
As a UK citizen, I can safely say the UK has gone down the toilet. No other reason than a poor clueless government running the country. My advice to foreign students is to go and study where you're accepted and respected and not seen as a burden. This country would be screwed without foreign students and workers.
The Home Secretary is correct. He is reflecting on the public view. If a student has to come to UK, it should not be to get work visa or citizenship but to study and return. If university enrolments decrease, then better that the UK Gov subsidizes them because the benefits (tuitions fees) are nothing compared to the costs: services to migrants such as free primary & secondary education to dependants, health care, housing, etc.; uncounted costs of over-population, increased crime, mental health issues associated with increased cost of living & lack of jobs, etc.
I didn't know non British Citizens can get free health care and housing in the UK, where did you get this data from?
@@DRAGGOFFICIAL - NHS services are free. Housing to asylum seekers, unemployed, and those declared ill is free
@@user-qb8qq6bb9xnhs services free? international students pay a fee called the immigration health surcharge. get your facts right.
@@beatsbyscrilla - I am talking about what happens after the two years graduate visa ended. Most graduates and care workers sneak into fake marriages and become dependents of other ILR dependents who live on benefits. So, everyone pushes further the benefits budget.
@@user-qb8qq6bb9x NHS services are free to British Nationals and those who have indefinite leave to remain- Correct.
Asylum seekers are housed free of charge-correct
However, students aren't asylum seekers and most migrants in the UK aren't asylum seekers. They are in the country through work visas, mostly in health care and other sectors. They get no free health care or housing, and they have to pay upfront as part of their visa application for NHS services they may or may not ever use. It's a hefty amount too. It is there on the gov website for all to see.
That is true though. I was studying in the UK from 2022-23. And many students would just enroll for courses which they would rarely attend. Many were working full time for cash payment jobs. The main reason many were coming to the country was to get a work visa which was made easy after the graduate route scheme. There Are so many who have stayed after the graduate route visa got over and are staying without permit.
100% true, even lot of student are not genuine student, they just come to UK to settle down with false papers and so many got caught doing it. This India like blame games, their people are dodgy trust me. In my University full of Indian and Pakistani and they never attend the class and most of them text me to help them to sign in because their attendance is falling, and I helped a lot but now I said I can’t do anymore I have problem
Very true half of the students in my class don't attend class ..!
They have to deliver food
@Rivr23 you're obviously gaming the system, I'm sure you'll have no problem respecting the new immigration law then?
@Rivr23 The license for these ubereats and deliveroo can be rented where the jobs are done by the students and the original license owners take a cut. It is very common. And many employers knowingly employ those students and pay below minimum wages. @coldestbeer is after all knows what he is talking about.
Illegal immigrants are ok u
But giving visa to student who fueling you economy is a problem
No-one has a problem with giving student visas. The issues is that the students want to bring their whole families over and stay permanently.
Illegal immigrants are not OK, neither students come to the UK and stay/work illegally after graduation.
finally a smart comment
For all students who are trying to come to UK. Brace for hardships, even part times are hard to come by. Only come here if you have some millions to just let go.
Hi PS, I missed at 23:3o hrs got see now ?
Look at the system adopted in Germany, to develop the education system while developing the economy. Some schools in Germany do not accept tution fee from international student but they are still accepting them. So what is it that they are doing right? The minister should look at mandating students to move the total amount of upkeep to t UK banks before arriving in the country. This will develop the economy and also indirectly reduce number of students coming in to the UK
This is why Indians do masters in America. Only way to set a foot in the U.S. I see nothing wrong with it. Businesses need employees. Indian students need jobs.
Usa dream also dead...lacks of students dont have jobs...
Why don’t more Indians try to get jobs in India ? The whole world can’t allow mass migration from 1billion+ populated India
If india soo good why do you people come to our country's?
@@rihaanmiah3126lakh*
@@rihaanmiah3126India has the highest youth population in the world by far. Hence exams in India are very tough to clear & obtain a job. In Foreign countries usually one can get a job with even relatively less merit since their exams are usually much more easier when compared to Indian ones
Why doesn't Cleverly look at the illegal routes for citizenship taken by Khalistanis, Islamists, etc.??
Way would any student spend thousands of pounds to study in UK if they are not going to get a job there after completing their studies??
Maybe they can get an English or Scottish girl.
UK
Or maybe look at lindus too?
Exactly
@@user-1rg9f2-g3l6d maybe the Islamist is looking for it, but khalistanis are take their family race/ethnicity to these countries like uk,canada,usa, australia, germany.
Per your own report, foreign student numbers are down by a third.
And you said "Take Nigeria for example applications have dropped by 46% this year."
So somewhere between 30 and 50% of "students", on realising that they can't use the student visa as a route to work, are not coming to the UK.
The UK government, against the express wishes of the electorate, have for decades allowed uncontrolled migration.
The people of the UK are angry with their government for doing this, and the government is finally starting to realise that there is this anger.
As a result the UK government is trying to fix the problem that they created. The way that they go about this is not necessarily the right or best way, but they are finally addressing the problem.
Hopefully they will get the right balance between attracting students to the UK, and not increasing economic migrants.
I hope this is not all for the upcoming elections though.
As Africans it goes straight to our pains, spreading out to all our so called independent states but not free due to the tricky unilateral agreement. Every country must review the terms.
This is exactly what happened in Canada. Are these two countries coping with each other?
Canada was under the UK Dominion.
Countries are done with immigrants let each country develop its won and deal with its own issues
Why not study and work in your own country.
Most do. In India, for example, of a total 300 million students, only 1.3 million went abroad for studies in 2022. That's less than half a percentage point.
These are just symptoms of the main problems the uk government doesn't want to deal
this makes the assumption that all foreign students are the same, for example, the drop in % of students are the students who engage equally in economic activity as those who who came in. I would argue, the drop will be from those candidates who would have "abused, by cleverly's definition" the system. That said, freedom of movement of people, rich, poor, low IQ, or otherwise is fundamental to a diversified economy, and the more rules they put in, the more potential for unbalances to the free market.
Unfortunately, foreign students pay almost double what home students pay. Also, they contribute immensely to sustaining universities finances. Many lecturer will lose their jobs.
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0:02 Rishi is fedup with competition from India, he just wants himself to rule😂🤣
😂😂😂
And yet they continue to bombard us with useless emails, urging us to apply. I wanted to do my MBA there, but now it seems I have to look for alternatives like the US, Germany or possibly China. Would have loved to go to Russia, but it seems the situation is kinda rough at the moment.
Cleverly is not so Clever after all. How are the already struggling universities sustain their financial situations...?
The huge economy that depends on the foreign students, housing /accommodation, food and catering, shop's and suppliers. the list of domino effects behind it is not to be taken lightly..
The governance of the country is in shambles overwhelmed by the inability and Incompetence..
They have failed the country it's literally free falling..
This is true and not in just UK but everywhere.
How many immigrants does india take in yearly?
we have bigger things to care about, we don't make nuisance out of nothing. we welcome guest more than a family and offer citizenships too. We call earth is one family. India welcomes with smile and big heart, , instead of considering them as crowd. @@coldestbeer
@@randomr5830 since india is so advanced and progressive, stay there.
why don't you stop accepting foreigners, and no one is interested in working there. Maybe you should tell this to corporates and companies there who find nothing but incompetent people and had to look for skilled foreigners to run their companies. @@coldestbeer
He’s talking as if the students waltz in and start taking uni. Unis have an admission process and still charge students a premium. If they deem a student to be unfit, reject their application, jees. Cleverly you need a brain son.
If they are so much concerned, why issue visas at the first place?
Sources of cheap labour which helps to keep inflation down.
The truth is that a significant number of international students are using the guise of pursuing education as a means of attaining their real goal: the opportunity of living in a developed country. There's no problem with wanting a better life but being sneaky about it is wrong. That's why such countries should create other immigration programmes that allow people to apply directly to migrate, otherwise they'll keep exploiting the current system.
That's not to say there aren't plenty of students who just want to come, learn, maybe get relevant working experience and then go back to their respective countries.
That’s true and not everyone’s using it properly. Cleverly is clever
good job uk...this will definitely curved immigration
Right. Prioritize asylum seekers crossing the Channel on dinghies.
Lol like how?? Stop the boats not the students! They literally bring insane amount of money to the country!
@@kunalincredible yeah... but look at what he is stopping...
My parents came to England from Punjab.
I can tell you that
England is full of highly motivated , intelligent young people that are born in this country.
They are now denied opportunities in this country at universities because the universities can make more money giving places to foreign higher fee paying students.
Please chose another country for the sake of our uk born children.
My house cleaner, gardener, painter decorator, builder, resturant manager, car valet, shop keeper are all on student visas.
England can covers all courses with suitable applicants from our uk born cohorts each year. In fact I’m sure we can match the fees foreign born students pay, but unfortunately that option is not open to us because we want a fair society.
As a child of immigrants I am fully aware of why you really want to come to the uk and i don’t blame you for it.
But foreigners are sold a dream, which unless you have serious financial support, will turn into a nightmare very quickly because the cost of living is very high and it only gets worse every time another person comes from a foreign country to use the resources.
The people of England are very accommodating and it is not a racist nation, but it wants value for access to its resources
A lot of students was taking out loans just to come to the uk. Once they are here in the uk they used to switch to a carers visa. Due to these people coming and miss using the system it has turned out bad for genuine students. It the government have put these changes in place
I live in California and international students have inflated the housing market in my area. The local universities are favoring international students because they pay more money. The international are not subsidizing local students fees. I support any decision to restrict international students. I said restrict not stop entirely.
Maybe ask your politician to build more apartment
that's free market economy🤓
Restrict then there will no more international students. How much they benefit from international students .
The housing market is inflated because of tech companies, not universities.
Otherwise other states like Massachusetts, etc would have higher costs than California. 🤡
It’s like blaming international students for the high cost of living in NY completely ignoring Wall Street, Google, etc have offices there.
Same thing here in Canada. Our country is circling the drain due to mass immigration from the developing world. The international student visa is one of the ways that our corrupt governments in the West are allowing them to use /abuse the system / slip through the cracks in order to work their way toward permanent residency status / citizenship.
If you ever need an example of getting your cake and having it. Here is one
Nahh they're being extra stupid even for Tories, literally international students' fees are being used to give subsidies to local students!
This country can only absorb so much! And our own students here are already struggling! So the idea that they also have to compete, not just academically with bright students from all over the world, but economically too.... As well as competing for services like affordable housing... Only serves the rich and super rich in this country!
If international students consider that they grew the economy of a country, why they don't stay in their country of origin, and grow their own economy? Help your own country and don't be considered invaders.
You are a few centuries too late for the "invaders" comment
It's actual fact but unfortunately UK realised it too late..
The problem is we are a small island and cannot cope with mass migration.
It's not about overall GDP, but GDP per head, our standard of living drops.
I like legitimate Indian students, but they can't bring in their whole family.
That's LITERALLY a TYPICAL "PENNY WISE POUND FOOLISH" move. You ain't seen no'ing yet Dude!
Very Cleverly scapegoating foreign students for their failed governance. 😂😂
The foreign student tuition fee is a small fraction of the actual cost of educating a student. Taxes pay for the rest. Foreign students also lower wages
I don’t think foreign students lower wages because the industries ( services sector ) were moving to Poland for cheap labour . So, the UK is going to loose tax as well.
@@ANEEAMA the theory that foreign students do not lower wages has been debunked many times
@@skapur According to the new law, if a foreign student wants to get a job in the UK, the average salary for COS to issue is 38700 pounds for general skilled visa (median UK salary for such jobs) and if it is IT jobs, the median UK salary for IT jobs which is 45000 pounds to issue COS. Then how are foreign students going to reduce salary when the requirement for issuing COS is median UK salary?
Indeed, forign students pay three times higher fees than the local students. For example, local students pay 9k pounds for their courses and the same course forign student pay 27k for Russel group Universities. So, the forign student subsidize the education fee of the local students. Check university funding data, government has drastically reduced funding for the UK universities and the university sector will collapse without forign students.
@@skapuryeah just a theory on illegally run businesses with imaginary what ifs.
There are laws requiring higher salaries and requirements than average. If your extensive research was actually valid maybe you or these researches should report it to the labor or immigration department. 👍
I agree with the UK policy of not allowing family members. Students should study, not make babies and try to sponge on. Recently Australia has banned students from Punjab, Haryana, UP, and Bihar as they falsified qualifications. These states must reduce corruption in education or their students will continue to embarrass our motherland in foreign countries.
you guys don't talk about real fact,why do you pay for asylum seekers?? they don't have contribution in uk but students have
WHO ARE THESE FOREIGN STUDENTS?
WHERE DO THEY COME FROM? WHAT ARE THEIR AIMS?
We all know
delusion is the new solution i guess
I read there is a decrease in foreign students , consequently universities are laying off lectures and cancelling some courses
There are two sides of every coin.
I work for the UK's home office, same department 🏬 James is boss of.
This is true that foreign students have contributed to the UK economy but this is also true that they've used and abused the system. Those who can't wipe their own noses have applied for a care worker visa. They have paid agents some 15k pounds and got skilled worker visa. Home office got suspicious when almost every one was applying for care worker visa. So majority have abused the system and switched into visas they don't deserve
Students need to get a job and then leave when the visa expires. Unfortunately, lately, a lot don't and apply for asylum, also bring a lot of family members. It's not students' fault. It's the government to ensure abuse don't take place and give a chance to well deserved students.
The number has gone down because it's working. Yes, less money will be generated, but that's a price to pay for the fairer system.
Cleverly is right . Like it or not .
The assertions made in the report do hold some factual basis, however, the tone and insinuations presented are quite skewed. Let's dissect these claims:
Firstly, it is indeed accurate that the UK government has implemented certain restrictions on foreign students, such as hiking visa fees and reducing work visa opportunities. However, it's important to recognize that these measures are within the sovereign rights of the UK government to regulate immigration policies in a manner that best serves their national interests.
Concerning the utilization of university courses as a means to obtain work visas, it's not entirely BASELESS to suggest that some individuals may EXPLOIT such opportunities. The Graduate Route Visa was designed to retain talent that contributes to the UK's economy and academic landscape. However, it is imperative to ensure that it's not being misused. Investigations into potential abuse of this visa route are justified and necessary to maintain the integrity of the system.
While universities may express concerns about the impact of these policies on enrollment numbers, it's vital to prioritize the quality and intent of education over sheer quantity.
Additionally, the notion that these measures are solely targeted at foreign students, particularly INDIAN students, is unfounded. These regulations apply universally to ALL international students.
The assertion that Indian students are turning away from the UK due to these measures is also EXAGERRATED. A 4% decrease in applications hardly qualifies as drastic, especially when considering the global context and various factors influencing international student preferences.
Moreover, while foreign students do contribute significantly to the UK economy, it's not the sole responsibility of the UK to cater to their needs at the expense of national interests. The primary focus should be on providing quality education to domestic students while maintaining a balanced approach to international student recruitment.
In conclusion, while there are valid concerns raised in the report, it's crucial to maintain OBJECTIVITY and refrain from portraying foreign students, particularly Indian students, solely as VICTIMS.
The UK government has the right to regulate its immigration policies in a manner that safeguards its national interests while continuing to welcome genuine students who seek to contribute positively to the country.
Why the brightest talents will choose UK while the salary there is one third of that in the USA, even lower than in Germany, Canada, Australia. But living cost is higher than in those countries.
this country is overrated AF !
Then leave
Only Indians students can bring their whole family in the UK.I have many indians in my work place,they are students but they really not interested in study.They interested to come here as a student then later on they can switch it to work visa and bring their whole family😂😂
Well the government made with too easy for them. They didn’t even have to wait to switch to the work visa. They let tbem bring their whole families with them before they even started the course. Now that the family are here they have no intention of going back home even if they can’t get the right work visa.
At last its being addressed.....
It's the same case of Australia. Treating its best clients as garbage. Hello? These students don't depend on you to have their lifes.