FORMER BIG LICK TRAINER CARL BLEDSOE MOCK PREPARES GEN'S ICE GLIMMER FOR INSPECTION

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  • @lucindra766
    @lucindra766 3 года назад +359

    It's so sad and annoying how these people treat their horses in this industry. I'm so glad that this horse was rescued and the trainer was charged for soring him.

    • @rockwithmoss1901
      @rockwithmoss1901 11 месяцев назад +1

      Once again, someone who knows nothing about it. From personal experience and or direct information has an opinion

    • @ligt18098
      @ligt18098 11 месяцев назад +12

      @@rockwithmoss1901 anyone who condones horse soring condones abuse. Soring is literally making the horse 'sore' lol

    • @0hMyLife
      @0hMyLife 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@rockwithmoss1901 is this comment your way of telling the world you sored horses???? Is that YOUR experience????? Bet you still sore horses to this day.....

    • @petfried
      @petfried 10 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@rockwithmoss19018:53 Are you seriously suggesting that big lick practices are not harming horses? Then you probably also believe that Earth is a disc.

    • @CrazyHorseFarm643
      @CrazyHorseFarm643 7 месяцев назад

      rockwithmoss1901
      -THIS MSG IS FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!
      You are delusional- pain is inflicted on these horses - their movements are AWKWARD- NOT NORMAL- get a grip, a clue or an EDUCATION! This sport is DISGUSTING 🤢

  • @akiyachef_5213
    @akiyachef_5213 2 года назад +116

    Thank you so much for showing us what lengths big lickers will go through to pass inspection. I hope this horse continues on its recovery and never sees the torture of big lick again.

    • @lynnejones9785
      @lynnejones9785 Год назад +3

      Why is this considered abuse? A good DQP or VMO will find any anomalies in spite of all the color. Carl is not hurting the horse.........he's making the feet look better for inspection. What's the problem? Even if the color were allowable he still isn't harming this evidently sound calm horse. I guess an actress coloring her hair or having it done before a performance is self-abuse in your opinion? No difference between the horse and the actress. EXCEPT......the horse does not have an opinion. Quick question........do you ask your horse if it wants to carry you bareback or with a saddle on a trail ride bc all those tight straps may be considered abuse by some people?

    • @MaryRose10661
      @MaryRose10661 Год назад

      Get yourself educated please on big lick and what they do to make the horse walk a very unnatural gate. Like soring with acid and chains on their feet. Not to mention the overal abuse of letting the horse in these stacks for 8 months a year which put very much strain on the hindlegs. When these horses no longer perform to their standards, they get thrown into auctions barely walking at all.@@lynnejones9785

    • @oldpostreviver2624
      @oldpostreviver2624 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@lynnejones9785what an imbecile ... Why do you think the covering up is even taking place ?

    • @oldpostreviver2624
      @oldpostreviver2624 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@lynnejones9785here you go so you have no further excuse to defend these sick bastards, here you'll see why it even has scars to be covered to begin with and what they do to cause the scars:
      ruclips.net/video/yDygeHVZ6qw/видео.htmlsi=pTjLV53lIYZsEJK-

    • @kayleemarie1901
      @kayleemarie1901 10 месяцев назад

      @@lynnejones9785he’s covering up the freaking scarring and hair loss on the horses feet because of the chemical burns it got from soring. How is this ok to you?? It IS abusive. All these people care about is hiding abuse and winning money.

  • @pixelfurnace
    @pixelfurnace 9 лет назад +293

    To be clear, is this an ex-trainer showing how someone would hide the scars/marks on a horse entering a show ring?

    • @billygoboy48
      @billygoboy48  9 лет назад +110

      Moxie That is exactly what you are looking at.

    • @Painthorsetrainer
      @Painthorsetrainer 9 лет назад +76

      Moxie The scars are caused by burning the horse with chemicals. This is called soring. It is done on Tennessee Walking Horses. It is supposed to be outlawed, but, as this ex-trainer shows, there are tricks to hiding the facts.

    • @gojobuddy
      @gojobuddy 9 лет назад +9

      +Moxie That's exactly what it is and he's a pig and should be going to jail. There would be no other reason for that horses hair to be like that. I'd guarantee you no way is that spray paint being used in the way it was meant to be used. I'll bet if it's mad for cows. It's to blacken the hoof not on the skin.

    • @pseudo2257
      @pseudo2257 9 лет назад +52

      +gojobuddy This is a mock preparation he is doing this to show how it can be done he has stopped showing and realized how wrong making a horse perform the big lick

    • @gojobuddy
      @gojobuddy 9 лет назад +17

      Pse Udo I guess so after he got caught. Now he's showing other's how to do it. Sounds like a great guy!

  • @slicksnewonenow
    @slicksnewonenow 5 лет назад +232

    "I'm 38 and have been thinking about shooting myself in the head for all the pain I've caused to animals over the years"....
    Jeez. How can this guy sleep at night?

    • @staceyevans2315
      @staceyevans2315 4 года назад +67

      At least he was able to realize what he has done and move on from soring. That's more than I can say than to other brain washed people. It still haunts him anyway.

    • @priscillawilliams7142
      @priscillawilliams7142 3 года назад +24

      Instead of thinking about yourself, Do something to help the TWH. The horses are the one in abuse and pain, help stop the Big lick, and the abuse, use your experience to stop, the cruelty of the animals, educate people and the industry. Please help

    • @emiliak8286
      @emiliak8286 3 года назад +3

      Could you please put a time stamp?

    • @kristiwetsel9531
      @kristiwetsel9531 3 года назад +21

      Can't always change your past , but you can change your future though and I'm glad he did

    • @cheesethekoala8756
      @cheesethekoala8756 3 года назад +23

      @@priscillawilliams7142
      That’s exactly what he’s doing. I’m not sure exactly what he does I think he’s raising awareness, I don’t know if he’s out here as an investigator too but he’s doing his best to help.

  • @alexistaylor9078
    @alexistaylor9078 Год назад +17

    Such an important video, I'm grateful to Mr. Bledsoe for showing people what goes on behind the scenes. I gasped when the camera went around and showed the back of his pasterns, that poor baby. Amazing and horrifying how well it was able to be hidden in just a few minutes.

  • @KFrost-fx7dt
    @KFrost-fx7dt 3 года назад +59

    My childhood equestrian club had a black TWH named Jewel. He was a delight to ride, a total gentleman, and he really seemed to like people and especially kids. He needed special shoeing on his front hooves, with a composite pad between the shoe and his hoof. He also had white scars on his lower legs and hair loss just like this horse. Now I understand why! Before my club bought him, his previous owner must have ridden him in the big lick. I sad that such a good horse was abused and I think of him every time I watch your videos. If I could afford to be a horse person I would rescue Tennessee Walkers, they all deserve a normal life.

    • @realmeanie
      @realmeanie Год назад +6

      You were lucky to be able to ride him after having been a Big Lick horse! The damage that is done to their ligaments and joints from soring is irreparable! ABSOLUTELY REPULSIVE!

    • @KFrost-fx7dt
      @KFrost-fx7dt Год назад +1

      @@realmeanie he was always a junior division horse: no galloping, no precision drill, no jumping, no gymkhana. His life was walking and trotting around an arena, the occasional parade, and teaching kids how to groom and saddle horses. He was always perfectly quiet and gentle and a very smooth ride. He was the kind if horse to help give confidence to new riders. Now that I think back his name was Black Diamond. They had a brown TWH named Jewel also, and I don't know his past but both horses wore pads on their front hooves while none of the others did.

    • @lynnejones9785
      @lynnejones9785 Год назад

      He probably was abused from long ago. But I have another comment as well. When people start writing in elementary schools holding a pencil and over the years develop a callous where the pencil rested against a finger from all those years of writing, is that considered abuse? This is a very poor analogy but it does point out that some things are not as bad as they may appear to be at first blush. For the past 30+ years or so, soring has become an abomination within the WH Industry. People within the industry who abuse their stock are shunned and disliked. Our horses have to be clean and sound without a hint of sorness, lost hair or a callous and this is the way it has been for the last 30+ years. Why are you people still bashing using info from close to 50 years ago as well as pure ignorant lies? Performance horses are clean and sound and have to be to get admitted to the showring through stringent inspections by VMO's and DQP's at every show. We in the industry love our big lick horses, the flatshod show horses and the trail horses! They all exhibit the same gaits and soundness in the showring. I truly wish people who are ignorant of the breed, and especially the big lick horse would learn the facts, learn the breed , the training and the rules regarding the showing of this horse. But no.....all of you constantly bash this breed bc you do NOT KNOW the facts. You prefer to condemn good people and the best horse on earth with our ignorant spouting of pure crap!! And a lot of that is mainly bc you don't understand anything about the breed and just love negativity. I, for one, urge you to out your money where your ignorant mouth is and if you personally see any abuse (not an opinion, but real abuse, to report it.........get info such as names, place of occurrence, license plate numbers, etc and REPORT it. We in the WH Industry, especially the big lick folks, would appreciate any help from anyone stopping the abuse in any shape form or fashion of our breed. Out horse is sound and honest. We would appreciate you TWH bashers to please get your facts and educated opinions in order before spouting off and exhibiting constipation of the brain and diarrhea of the mouth.

  • @hegymnastics670
    @hegymnastics670 2 года назад +32

    This is DISGUSTING . I have been a rider for almost 3years and this has always been a absolutely gross and abusive thing to do to these horses. I really think that the “big lick” sould be banned from horse shows and just in general. I’m so happy you posted this video so people actually see how RUDE and NASTY this is. I pray these horses get the right care one day.

    • @lynnejones9785
      @lynnejones9785 Год назад

      First of all. You don't know what the hell you are talking about. Maybe this post will help bring you up to date with the truth. The TWH abuse is untrue. Carl is not a hero. He should have stayed in the industry and continued to do good there. I don't know why he didn't and I have known him and his family since he was about 5 yrs old. Maybe this information will help you to understand why the big lick TWH abuse is a lie.. The TWH is protected by the federal government and laws are in place to protect it. Maybe you are not current on the laws. You cannot cover scars on a horse as they are palpable and can be felt under the hair. So that is a myth. In fact, rules are that a horse cannot have ANY foreign substance on them at all. NOTHING . Especially before going through inspection. That was just one mistruth in that video. There is and has been an end to this. Years ago. TWH's are the soundest and cleanest horses of all breeds. All this to-ing and fro-ing about the big lick horses being abused and mistreated is just not true. I have been in this industry over 60 years and I know. I know where it was and how far it has come to having a good clean sound horse. Get an education about this great breed and what's the REAL truth. Go to some TWH barns and shows. See for yourself. Ask to ride one. I promise you if you ride one today, you'll own one tomorrow. The TWH bashers are ignorant and live in lies from 30-50 years ago. The violators of the Federal Horse Protection Act are subject to suspensions, huge fines and jail time. Why would anyone EVER break that law and I'm telling you everyone in the WH Industry knows this law and are very careful to comply. EVERYONE knows this except the people who don't.........the sensational seeking TWH bashers with their ignorant opinions. We in the industry love our horses and applaud the riddance of soring and the showing of sound, clean horses. I just will never understand why bashers of any thing or person don't bother to get their facts straight before jumping on that false bandwagon. If you don't like to watch our horse then move on. We are not abusive to our horses and if we were there are serious consequences. The honest people in this industry love this horse and the last thing wanted is any sort of abuse of it. Every word of the above is the real truth.

    • @rockwithmoss1901
      @rockwithmoss1901 11 месяцев назад

      And your direct experience and knowledge comes from riding some kind of horse that has nothing to do with tennessee walking horses or racking horses

    • @AccidentallyOnPurpose
      @AccidentallyOnPurpose 4 месяца назад +1

      @@rockwithmoss1901You don't need to ride TWH to understand Big Lick gaits are not natural and are a result of abuse. Anybody who has been around horses long enough can go to one of those events and see the pain the horses are in

  • @valerieking2371
    @valerieking2371 2 года назад +70

    It's hard to believe people can be so cruel to a animal 💔😞 . Thank you Carl for being willing to share what goes on behind the scenes of the cruelty of the Big Lick for horses that have no voice.

    • @lynnejones9785
      @lynnejones9785 Год назад

      Tell me why you think this is cruel? Have you not ever colored your own hair? Is it cruel for people to do that to themselves? If this horse were sore he would not stand there calmly allowing it. DUH........is that too much common sense for you to understand? I'll tell you something else. Rules state no foreign substance (and that means ANYTHING) is allowed on the pastern area before inspection. Now is Carl so wonderful? But he is still not harming this horse in any way.

    • @horsehaircreationsbykaren
      @horsehaircreationsbykaren Год назад

      @@lynnejones9785 hey! Dumb Dora, this how they cover up blisters, scars, scabs, wounds caused by the action devices. Do you color your hair to cover up blisters on your scalp caused by someone putting kerosene on your head? Geez,!

    • @heidinewcombe696
      @heidinewcombe696 Год назад

      @@lynnejones9785 Stop defending these horse abusers. These horses are crippled by these animals for no reason other than an exaggerated gait. They have weighted and stacked shoeing that destroys the legs and hips of an animal. We know about the blistering process and then the chains on the fetlocks to agitate the sores. We see them coming through the horse auctions when they can no longer show them, sold to be euthanized humanely because they are in such pain. Big Lick showing should be stopped, period! The judges should be held accountable for what they are encouraging.

    • @wholeshebang1
      @wholeshebang1 Год назад +8

      @lynnejones9785 - The horse has *stacks* - basically, "high heels," completely *unnatural* and *harmful* to his *health - his feet, legs, spine and soundness - attached to his hoofs. That is intentional *cruelty.* Tendons in the *tail* are also *severed* and "tail set" devices used to get the unnatural, raised position, which is desired in competitions. Only Arabians have a "tail-raised-high" *naturally,* due to conformation and musculature.

    • @Sinner1660
      @Sinner1660 Год назад +5

      ​@@lynnejones9785If you knew minimal things about the big lick industry you'd realise how your comment is misguided *in this context spesifically*. I mean you no hate but... Your comment implies you haven't listened to this video and merely observed with your EYES/haven't got much knowledge on this topic yet. (nor do I, I just found this rabbit hole yesterday) I say implies because, ofc, I don't know you, for all I know you're a big lick veteran.
      But I politely disagree with your approach here.
      If you're interested in what I'm on about...👇
      This guy is using just sprays, yes. ....yet he literally mentioned it's to cover the past scars of the process of the 'training'.
      The stacks(pad things) are there 24/7 not just for the shows, it forces them to walk in a way that entirely decimates their muscular skeletal systems. By a young age these horses are physically damaged and some even look odd visually.
      It's similar to making us walk on our heels at all times whilst also on all fours with acid on our wrists and ankles with chains on to increase the pain so we flick our limbs out in a way that satisfies a different species to us.
      Now doesn't that sound absurd 😂
      They put chains on after wrapping the lower legs/fetlocks in petrol (yeah that surprised me, perhaps they said diesel) or other caustic/burning substances so when these horses do their infamous gait their leg flicks are from a pain response from the chains whacking their burned fetlocks. Akin to us burning our fingers on the stove and flinching. Apparently.
      Yes he's just using sprays. We can ALL see that. But the REST of us realise he is showing how they hide the injuries from past (not seen here) abuse.
      I'd advise you to understand the full context before you scold someone else who actually is on the right track.
      This torture/abuse or rather at least, discussing/showing aspects of how they hide it from judges. Even with the 'rules' in place it's not going to be painless for their spines and feet.
      So does this still sound as trivial as whatever it was you compared it to?
      Again no hate.
      I just find this all very interesting topic.
      Take care, internet stranger.
      😏👍

  • @elsa3312
    @elsa3312 9 лет назад +116

    Show horses--baby powder on the white socks to make them brighter--no harm no foul. A little oil on the mane to enhance the color--no harm, no foul. THIS IS NOT THAT. This cruelty has been going on for a long, long time, BUT, social media can CHANGE THIS. The word is able to be spread as never before!!

    • @pseudo2257
      @pseudo2257 9 лет назад +10

      I totally agree! I ride a paint horse in the hunter world and those white socks are a pain in the ass to keep clean so we use spray white -similar to this video- to cover up stains! This video is covering up scars from cruelty! It's two different sides of the spectrum

    • @markwalsh6138
      @markwalsh6138 4 года назад +4

      The show horses are thouroughly inspected and so there is none of the abuse that occured in the distant past. The Horse industry has caused abuse in many breeds.

    • @staceyevans2315
      @staceyevans2315 4 года назад +4

      I think the most effective thing to do is to teach future generations of this horrific disease of an industry. Older generations are too far gone to be saved. We must teach our children about this.

    • @staceyevans2315
      @staceyevans2315 4 года назад +3

      @@markwalsh6138 There are other ways to hide it. They can cause pain somewhere else on the horse instead of the ankles to hide the soring. There's also an example in this video as obvious.

    • @slashclaw8781
      @slashclaw8781 3 года назад +2

      Use dark magic on the abusers, punishing spell for them to feel the pain the horse feels

  • @kropotkinnie
    @kropotkinnie 3 года назад +84

    this ex trainer is a good person even if he doesn't think it. he can't go back and fix what he's done, but he can prevent such things from happening in the future, and do more good than harm in the end. he's got a good heart and is trying to help and that's what matters most now

    • @debmcd6836
      @debmcd6836 2 года назад +17

      Yes and I am sure the people at the celebration give him a hard way to go in sure he's lost friends but thank him for standing for something good and honorable his testimony carries weight his voice can change this

    • @StandedInUtah
      @StandedInUtah Год назад +10

      It's difficult and courageous to accept that you were wrong and tell everyone what you did. To then step forward and expose former friends and colleagues for doing the wrong requires a hero.

    • @lynnejones9785
      @lynnejones9785 Год назад

      The TWH abuse is untrue. Carl is not a hero. He should have stayed in the industry and continued to do good there. I don't know why he didn't and I have known him and his family since he was about 5 yrs old. Maybe this information will help you to understand why the big lick TWH abuse is a lie.. The TWH is protected by the federal government and laws are in place to protect it. Maybe you are not current on the laws. You cannot cover scars on a horse as they are palpable and can be felt under the hair. So that is a myth. In fact, rules are that a horse cannot have ANY foreign substance on them at all. NOTHING . Especially before going through inspection. That was just one mistruth in that video. There is and has been an end to this. Years ago. TWH's are the soundest and cleanest horses of all breeds. All this to-ing and fro-ing about the big lick horses being abused and mistreated is just not true. I have been in this industry over 60 years and I know. I know where it was and how far it has come to having a good clean sound horse. Get an education about this great breed and what's the REAL truth. Go to some TWH barns and shows. See for yourself. Ask to ride one. I promise you if you ride one today, you'll own one tomorrow. The TWH bashers are ignorant and live in lies from 30-50 years ago. The violators of the Federal Horse Protection Act are subject to suspensions, huge fines and jail time. Why would anyone EVER break that law and I'm telling you everyone in the WH Industry knows this law and are very careful to comply. EVERYONE knows this except the people who don't.........the sensational seeking TWH bashers with their ignorant opinions. We in the industry love our horses and applaud the riddance of soring and the showing of sound, clean horses. I just will never understand why bashers of any thing or person don't bother to get their facts straight before jumping on that false bandwagon. If you don't like to watch our horse then move on. We are not abusive to our horses and if we were there are serious consequences. The honest people in this industry love this horse and the last thing wanted is any sort of abuse of it. Every word of the above is the real truth.

  • @hallon510thorne3
    @hallon510thorne3 8 лет назад +188

    STOP!!!!! THINK HOW THE HORSE FEEL!! I HATE YOU!!! STOP 💔💔💔💔😢😢😢😢

    • @godillysillybilly6024
      @godillysillybilly6024 6 лет назад +29

      Hallon 510 Thörne you idiots he is not actually doing it he is showing how it would be done he did it in the past but doesn’t do it anymore

    • @godillysillybilly6024
      @godillysillybilly6024 6 лет назад +16

      Camilla Johansson sigh... did you seem him put diesel fuel. NO. Did you see him put oil mustard. NO. Did you see him put raps. NO. Did you see him put chains. NO. Sorry honey, but i think you should get your eyes checked, just an advice.

    • @anonymousjet
      @anonymousjet 5 лет назад +17

      @Camilla Johansson He is demonstrating how he would have done it if he was still in the Big Lick industry.

    • @salomeberger9543
      @salomeberger9543 4 года назад +2

      Godilly SillyBilly yeah bc they obviously wouldn’t show that in the video. Alone the blocks are extremely abusive maybe you should get your mind checked

    • @aero3318
      @aero3318 4 года назад +5

      Salome Berger dude the point of the video is to show how abusive the industry is

  • @janhall1641
    @janhall1641 8 лет назад +118

    Poor Glimmer. He's being SUCH a good boy and he Doesn't like it - "pulling against the handler out of memory". This isn't hurting him but he expects it to. Poor lad.

    • @rockwithmoss1901
      @rockwithmoss1901 11 месяцев назад

      Once again, some youtube kitty has been given a platform to spout off their opinion based on no facts

  • @elsa3312
    @elsa3312 9 лет назад +134

    Thank you to Carl Bledsoe. We have all made mistakes in our lives. He realized his mistake and is now helping to stop this cruelty.

  • @ioncareee
    @ioncareee 3 года назад +42

    Man, so many people in the comments are either too dumb to read the caption or too dumb to listen to what he is talking about.
    Thank you for raising awareness on what to look out for.

  • @Painthorsetrainer
    @Painthorsetrainer 9 лет назад +129

    This makes me sick to my stomach to watch, even though I know it doesn't include the actual horrible application of burning chemicals to the horse's skin. All this cruelty to make horses "beautiful" in a Big Lick competition. Along with the 5" stacked shoes, this practice should be made illegal.

    • @horselover4338
      @horselover4338 7 лет назад

      Victoria Smith it is

    • @susanholmes8468
      @susanholmes8468 7 лет назад +2

      Totally agree. That paint is toxic to the horse!!!!!!!

    • @kinleyeq5857
      @kinleyeq5857 6 лет назад +3

      Pigs and Pipes Oh I agree! I only think this because of the cruelty behind it. If you take a look at the horses without the rider they are beautiful!😢

    • @kinleyeq5857
      @kinleyeq5857 6 лет назад +2

      Pigs and Pipes I forgot to put the big lick on their😂

    • @michellelopez4603
      @michellelopez4603 5 лет назад +3

      It doesnt even look good to me

  • @Jojo-j8z2w
    @Jojo-j8z2w 3 месяца назад +2

    It’s amazing that some people go out of their way to save these horses and I’m so glad for people like that

  • @alainamurray1480
    @alainamurray1480 6 лет назад +28

    Their showing y'all the truth that they do put chemicals on their feet and does hurt them. Please help stop this cruelty. Please somebody

  • @Sophia_Equestrian777
    @Sophia_Equestrian777 3 года назад +13

    I’m so happy that someone is healing this horses ankles from all the pain and chemicals that was Applied to it

    • @DGHJUKL
      @DGHJUKL 7 месяцев назад

      i dont think he is healing it he said he did big lick for 30 years and that he is preping the horse for a big lick show

    • @AccidentallyOnPurpose
      @AccidentallyOnPurpose 4 месяца назад

      You can't heal it, the scars are permanent. He is just showing how abusers cover the scars to they don't get noticed at show

  • @109367
    @109367 3 года назад +21

    Even if they outlawed soring, there are so many ways people are getting around it, up to and including paying off the vets inspecting the horses. Also the stacks break the horse's down and destroy their bodies, especially when the stacks are applied at just 18 months old while the horse is still developing to physically mold it into this unnatural way so it moves "better" it's not just the soring, these action devices also need to be banned and this horrible "gait"

    • @Anastasia2048
      @Anastasia2048 2 года назад +5

      I agree. Anyone who thinks it's okay to ride 2 year old horses in stacks and chains definitely would have no qualms with soring.

    • @debmcd6836
      @debmcd6836 2 года назад +3

      Needs to come with stuff punishment or banning if they are caught so they won't risk it

    • @lynnejones9785
      @lynnejones9785 Год назад

      Soring has been against the law since 1970. Crooked trainers and cheaters will always find a way to cheat. You should not blame all trainers and owners for the intentional evil done to horses by some. Our big lick horses are sound and clean. But we continue to get bashed by people such as yourself that are so uninformed you know nothing of the modern big lick horse. However, I agree with you about the two year olds. I don't think there should be a division for 2 yr olds at all. I agree they are not developed to handle the physical stress that young. However, you could also say the same for racing T-breds. They race 2 yr olds and I think that is detrimental to them. The Walking Horse Industry does a pretty good job of watching out for the safety and health of the big lick and flatshod horses. Many many years ago and I can't remember the year, the industry moved the 3rd gait, the canter, not to be executed in the showring until a horse's 4 yr old year. The junior horses (first year working a canter) had always been in the three yr old year from the very beginning of showing Walking Horses) I wish they would move the 2 yr olds first year under saddle in the showring to their 3 yr old year. However, please get educated first about what you intend to bash. Not doing so makes you not look credible.

    • @horsehaircreationsbykaren
      @horsehaircreationsbykaren Год назад

      @@lynnejones9785 big lick looks like ass, ya know? Like your face! The horse is not trimmed nor shod to his natural balance, that in itself f'ing up the coffin bones. Being a farrier, I know this shit.

    • @vintagelady1
      @vintagelady1 10 месяцев назад

      @@lynnejones9785 Horse crap. If they do such a "pretty" good job of regulating, how come these horses regularly show up in auctions & rescue places with broken hips & scarred feet, unable to walk normally? Big Lick is nothing less than abuse, whether the horse is 2 or 12, why would you torment it by forcing it into an unnatural (and very goofy-looking) way of moving? How dare you defend these people. Tell you what, if it's so cool, why don't you put big weighted platform shoes & chains on your kids & make them walk around that way so they'll prance pretty? And if soring was made illegal in1970, explain Glimmer & all the products sold to hide the scars from soring? Why isn't part of the inspection to wipe down the pastern & fetlock with a baby wipe & if anything shows up, the horse, trainer & owner are banned for life? B/c it's still commonly done & you know it. Credibility? From someone who abuses animals so they walk pretty? Bite me.

  • @vicki8681
    @vicki8681 Год назад +9

    My God these people are sick . They’re so gentle and tolerant of the pain these monsters give.hope they get to experience the pain they give

    • @lynnejones9785
      @lynnejones9785 Год назад

      First of all. You don't know what the hell you are talking about. Maybe this post will help bring you up to date with the truth. The TWH abuse is untrue. Carl is not a hero. He should have stayed in the industry and continued to do good there. I don't know why he didn't and I have known him and his family since he was about 5 yrs old. Maybe this information will help you to understand why the big lick TWH abuse is a lie.. The TWH is protected by the federal government and laws are in place to protect it. Maybe you are not current on the laws. You cannot cover scars on a horse as they are palpable and can be felt under the hair. So that is a myth. In fact, rules are that a horse cannot have ANY foreign substance on them at all. NOTHING . Especially before going through inspection. That was just one mistruth in that video. There is and has been an end to this. Years ago. TWH's are the soundest and cleanest horses of all breeds. All this to-ing and fro-ing about the big lick horses being abused and mistreated is just not true. I have been in this industry over 60 years and I know. I know where it was and how far it has come to having a good clean sound horse. Get an education about this great breed and what's the REAL truth. Go to some TWH barns and shows. See for yourself. Ask to ride one. I promise you if you ride one today, you'll own one tomorrow. The TWH bashers are ignorant and live in lies from 30-50 years ago. The violators of the Federal Horse Protection Act are subject to suspensions, huge fines and jail time. Why would anyone EVER break that law and I'm telling you everyone in the WH Industry knows this law and are very careful to comply. EVERYONE knows this except the people who don't.........the sensational seeking TWH bashers with their ignorant opinions. We in the industry love our horses and applaud the riddance of soring and the showing of sound, clean horses. I just will never understand why bashers of any thing or person don't bother to get their facts straight before jumping on that false bandwagon. If you don't like to watch our horse then move on. We are not abusive to our horses and if we were there are serious consequences. The honest people in this industry love this horse and the last thing wanted is any sort of abuse of it. Every word of the above is the real truth.

    • @rockwithmoss1901
      @rockwithmoss1901 11 месяцев назад

      This paint job is causing absolutely no pain and it's only in your mind that this is cruelty

  • @teganr641
    @teganr641 8 лет назад +19

    i don't think people realize that the guy putting up these videos is not the guy in the video. i think he puts these up to create awareness. people keep commenting things as if he is the one doing these acts.

  • @AngelKittiez
    @AngelKittiez 3 года назад +35

    People this is someone who doesn’t do this stuff, he is showing you how people who DO train the “big lick” hide the scars from the chemical wounds

    • @taurusggrl890
      @taurusggrl890 2 года назад +5

      He did this for 30 years by his own admission. I'm disgusted. What caused his change of heart? In addition to this nonsense the big lick gate ruins these horses hind ends and cripples horses started at 18mos under saddle. For all the horses abused by him I can't forgive.

    • @michelleberthold6270
      @michelleberthold6270 2 года назад +4

      @@taurusggrl890 he got caught out....maybe jail time
      How many horses did he not torture

  • @sondraleonard212
    @sondraleonard212 11 месяцев назад +5

    So glad Glimmer is now safe and retired at a Tennessee Rescue !!

  • @captaincruise_eq.8652
    @captaincruise_eq.8652 2 года назад +8

    If this horse is rescued and they are showing how it’s done in a mock show prep why does this horse still have stacks?

    • @amandasaeger4052
      @amandasaeger4052 2 месяца назад

      they probably just rescued him, and are showing us the process with the stacks on. they take them off, trust me.

    • @amandasaeger4052
      @amandasaeger4052 2 месяца назад

      also, MOCK SHOW PREP

  • @worried_sickk5811
    @worried_sickk5811 3 года назад +24

    Thank you billy for documenting the abuse that goes on in the big lick.

  • @cameronring4103
    @cameronring4103 6 лет назад +16

    So why was this filmed? It seems like this is simply a tutorial showing others how to hide soring scars.

    • @godillysillybilly6024
      @godillysillybilly6024 6 лет назад +14

      Cameron Ring he is an ex-trainer you brainy he is showing this to educate people he doesn’t actually do this.

    • @lyssakate
      @lyssakate 5 лет назад +18

      Trust me, other trainers already know. This is for people that don't know to learn what to look for

  • @littleloner1159
    @littleloner1159 5 лет назад +37

    I'm confused why people think the painting job is the big issue.
    Facepaint does only hurt when you get it into open wounds.
    This particular horse does not get hurt by the paint, but horses can get hurt by paint sprayed on sored feet.
    Thank this man for showcasing how it would be done.
    And thank him for owning up to his mistakes and stopping.

    • @pandano.4539
      @pandano.4539 4 года назад

      so u agree what this STuPeD Pease of shit is duwing?

    • @staceyevans2315
      @staceyevans2315 4 года назад +9

      @@pandano.4539 They don't. But this man was able was able to realize what he was doing.
      He was probably really young when he started soring horses. Kids are naive and look up to adults and trust them. As a kid, you don't realize the faults you do. At least he stopped. Unlike a lot of other people from this dumb industry.

    • @InsideEquestrian
      @InsideEquestrian 3 года назад +2

      The painting job is not a big issue but the fact that he supports this industry is a huge issue! This is abuse! They use the intentional infliction of pain to a horse's legs or hooves in order to force the horse to perform an artificial, exaggerated gait. Yes, the horses already have a natural gait but they use caustic chemicals-blistering agents like mustard oil, diesel fuel, and kerosene which when applied to the horse's limbs, cause extreme pain and suffering!

    • @littleloner1159
      @littleloner1159 3 года назад +1

      @@InsideEquestrian wasnt that the gist of the video? All of these techniques bad the obvious since the dude stopped and will not do it again?...
      So if i remember correctly he is not using techniques that hurt the horse nowadays?

    • @InsideEquestrian
      @InsideEquestrian 3 года назад +1

      @@littleloner1159 Well the creator of the video did not do these things himself he is spreading awareness but I am talking about the person in the video... The horse still has its soaring shoes on and they are spraying his legs to blend in with the shoes for the next show. I am not sure fully so I cannot judge but from the looks of it it seems as though he is prepping the horse for the next show "not training."

  • @emanovska
    @emanovska 9 лет назад +36

    This is a great video about how the cheaters cheat. So hideously cruel.

    • @infinitywarriors6996
      @infinitywarriors6996 2 года назад +1

      He’s fixing him

    • @ytcommenter375
      @ytcommenter375 2 года назад

      @@infinitywarriors6996 hes hiding his scars

    • @debmcd6836
      @debmcd6836 2 года назад +1

      This guy needs a job inspecting and catching them

    • @lynnejones9785
      @lynnejones9785 Год назад

      @@ytcommenter375You cannot "hide" scars. VMO's and DQP's can feel scars and believe you me, they know what they are doing. He is making the pastern hair look better and that's about the size of it. The entire horse is made to look better. All that crap he's putting on him makes the hair look better and the skin feel better but it does not hide scars. Scars are palpable.

    • @lynnejones9785
      @lynnejones9785 Год назад

      @@infinitywarriors6996 No, he's not. He's prepping him to make the pastern hair look better to go through inspection, which is against the rules anyway. NO FOREIGN SUBSTANCES can be on the pastern area. Period. If the horse is suspected of being sensitive he is turned down after palpations by a VMO or DQP. If a foreign substance is suspected, the pastern area is swabbed and sent to the lab . It would be stupid if he were "fixing" him right before going through inspection. Clearly you know not of what you speak.

  • @crowleysridgegirl
    @crowleysridgegirl 8 лет назад +13

    Can't some of you read??

  • @Coloradowildlifelover
    @Coloradowildlifelover 10 месяцев назад +1

    Horses need to be protected!

  • @Equine_Samantha
    @Equine_Samantha 4 года назад +4

    us: baby powder
    them: car oil, chains, stacks

  • @Stephon723
    @Stephon723 3 месяца назад +1

    6:40 He starts to realize it's a set up

  • @mindyelliott9545
    @mindyelliott9545 2 года назад +3

    I dislike you but at the same time thank you for letting people know what happens to theses beautiful horses that don't deserve it!!

  • @rhyanonstuddert7384
    @rhyanonstuddert7384 Год назад +1

    This is absolutely disgusting and even more disturbing that he can be so casual about explaining it, like there's nothing wrong with it at all. Just awful.

  • @kimc1748
    @kimc1748 2 года назад +3

    I have seen several videos now on what they do to these Tennessee walking horses. It's repulsive and disgusting! I don't see developing any partnership at all with a horse getting down on your hands and knees and covering up the scars of abuse! Partnership and working with the horse correctly begins with developing the bond from the ground up in a riding ring around pen classical training natural training! To artificially make a horse carry their weight on the back end and not correctly develop that is wrong and it will cripple horse before their life expectancy is up! I am just amazed that these horses stand there and not even fight and not even defend themselves against this horrific human behavior! God bless these horses because no one else will! I hope to God that this inhumane Behavior will stop! Rather it's the big wick rather it's saddle seat rather it's five gated horses rather it's horse racing things can be done more humanely and you get a better product! And you have a horse that is developed correctly and has a good longevity! There's no need to wreck a horse before the age of 7 years old! Horses have a long life so we should cherish that and we should respect that and we should embrace that and work with it! They are not digital technology they are living beings just like us and they are on the planet just like us we all have to be here together and we should all work together in a happy safe Humane manner! I know because I rescued my Arabian mare from the saddle seat bar that was highly abusing her and I had her from the age of seven till she passed at the age of 30! And guess what she was doing going second third level dressage at the age of 28 years old! There's more to the story but that's basically it in a very small nutshell! And believe me after We rescued her there was a time that she wanted to kill everybody because of all the pain that she endured from being in that saddle seat Barn! It took over a year for her to trust not only humans but especially women. Because it was the women in the barn who did the most damage! If it wasn't for the farrier the vet and the dentist to provided free services cuz they couldn't stand to see her suffer in pain this horse would have never had a chance and there was a man that was going to buy her because he wanted to sell the horse for meat! After all the torture that's what she was heading for! I stepped in with my mother and we were able to obtain her papers and take her home and give her the life in the career that she deserved and it took a while! Oh so God bless these Tennessee walking horses something needs to be done soon and fast this is carried on too long and too many smooth talking people covering up and telling too many bull crap stories and songs and dances on their soap boxes just so that way I could keep on doing what they're doing which is abusing these Tennessee walking horses change your outlook change the way you work with your horses change the way you show them because there's other things that you can do with them that can make them look wonderful and make them be natural and Pastor life in the career that they deserve in the show right and in the barn and everyday life! These judges that judge these shows there's only one thing I have to say is that I have never seen such shallow-minded people in my whole entire life very narrow tunnel vision! They don't even care what torture these horses go through they just want to see a big show in the big ring that's all they care about is their own self proclaimed satisfaction they don't care about the horse they don't care about the natural gate they don't care about the natural beauty that these horses have and to do something so cool to these sweet loving gentle animals who stand there and take the crap from the judges to the trainers to the Riders to the handlers to the inspection people! I do not know how you people live with yourselves and sleep at night shame on all of you!

  • @silkelange6013
    @silkelange6013 Год назад +1

    For me as German it's absolutly animal abuse. It's heartbreaking to see this Video.....just in this minute it has to stop!!!!

  • @Showgirlable
    @Showgirlable 4 года назад +7

    He is just showing what is done before a Competition. He is showing how riders prepare the horse to pass inspection.
    This man got out of the Bad Business of soring. He is making up for it by providing information on what is so wrong with Big Lick.

  • @amberboston3154
    @amberboston3154 4 года назад +4

    Did noone see the word 'mock' in the title?

  • @Nast405
    @Nast405 8 лет назад +12

    WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE NOT CHARGED WITH ANIMAL CRUELTY?

    • @anonymousjet
      @anonymousjet 5 лет назад +6

      They are if they're caught. But people can be swindled out of things with money. A shame, really.

    • @lynnejones9785
      @lynnejones9785 Год назад

      Because it is NOT cruelty or abuse. If you were educated about it you would know it.

    • @kseniacatxxx3899
      @kseniacatxxx3899 Месяц назад

      ​@@lynnejones9785In no world is hurting animals not abusive.

  • @molly_equestriann
    @molly_equestriann 2 года назад +6

    This is so sad and so annoying ho these people treat their horses!! I’m so so SO glad this horse was rescued and the trainer was accused.

    • @lynnejones9785
      @lynnejones9785 Год назад

      First of all. You don't know what the hell you are talking about. Maybe this post will help bring you up to date with the truth. The TWH abuse is untrue. Carl is not a hero. He should have stayed in the industry and continued to do good there. I don't know why he didn't and I have known him and his family since he was about 5 yrs old. Maybe this information will help you to understand why the big lick TWH abuse is a lie.. The TWH is protected by the federal government and laws are in place to protect it. Maybe you are not current on the laws. You cannot cover scars on a horse as they are palpable and can be felt under the hair. So that is a myth. In fact, rules are that a horse cannot have ANY foreign substance on them at all. NOTHING . Especially before going through inspection. That was just one mistruth in that video. There is and has been an end to this. Years ago. TWH's are the soundest and cleanest horses of all breeds. All this to-ing and fro-ing about the big lick horses being abused and mistreated is just not true. I have been in this industry over 60 years and I know. I know where it was and how far it has come to having a good clean sound horse. Get an education about this great breed and what's the REAL truth. Go to some TWH barns and shows. See for yourself. Ask to ride one. I promise you if you ride one today, you'll own one tomorrow. The TWH bashers are ignorant and live in lies from 30-50 years ago. The violators of the Federal Horse Protection Act are subject to suspensions, huge fines and jail time. Why would anyone EVER break that law and I'm telling you everyone in the WH Industry knows this law and are very careful to comply. EVERYONE knows this except the people who don't.........the sensational seeking TWH bashers with their ignorant opinions. We in the industry love our horses and applaud the riddance of soring and the showing of sound, clean horses. I just will never understand why bashers of any thing or person don't bother to get their facts straight before jumping on that false bandwagon. If you don't like to watch our horse then move on. We are not abusive to our horses and if we were there are serious consequences. The honest people in this industry love this horse and the last thing wanted is any sort of abuse of it. Every word of the above is the real truth.

  • @Finik5555
    @Finik5555 2 года назад +2

    Это издевательство над лошадью.Гореть в аду тем кто это практикует.

  • @kathybradbury
    @kathybradbury 2 года назад +6

    The way the stacks destroy the legs of these horses, you’d think anyone who loves this animal wouldn’t patronize these shows.

    • @lynnejones9785
      @lynnejones9785 Год назад

      Actually, padded shoes on Walking Horses protect the tendons and muscles from impact stress as they strike the ground. University studies prove it. Pads do not destroy the legs. Period.

  • @kathybradbury
    @kathybradbury 2 года назад +1

    Why was this horse still in stacks?

  • @loriparker2163
    @loriparker2163 Год назад +5

    My mom had a Tennessee Walker and she never did this to her horse 😢

    • @lynnejones9785
      @lynnejones9785 Год назад

      Was it a big lick horse? This "grooming" of the pastern area to try to hide anomalies is against the rules. But it is not harmful or painful to the horse. A good DQP or VMO will find a problem if there is one. Callouses, loss of hair and any type of soreness is what the inspectors are looking for and no amount of grooming will get past them. The grooming just makes the hair look better........much like you combing your own hair or coloring it before you go out to do anything. But it is against the rules albeit it is harmless. Does that make sense to you? .

  • @dianebradshaw7955
    @dianebradshaw7955 2 года назад +5

    SO HAPPY GLIMMER IS FREE FROM THIS AT LAST

  • @jerritrahan9149
    @jerritrahan9149 2 года назад +2

    Mock my ass. He's still doing it. The shoes are on aren't they.

    • @cashewbutter943
      @cashewbutter943 Год назад

      This was a recently rescued horse, you can’t just take these stacks off or you’ll cause severe injury to the horse. Notice how run under the heels of the front hooves are. It’s a very long and gradual process

  • @dianebradshaw7955
    @dianebradshaw7955 3 года назад +6

    ANYONE WHO IS INVOLVED IN BIG LICK SHOULD BE IN JAIL

    • @debmcd6836
      @debmcd6836 2 года назад +1

      💯 agreed

    • @lynnejones9785
      @lynnejones9785 Год назад

      The TWH is protected by the federal government and laws are in place to protect it. Maybe you are not current on the laws. You cannot cover scars on a horse as they are palpable and can be felt under the hair. So that part of your post is a myth. In fact, rules are that a horse cannot have ANY foreign substance on them at all. NOTHING . Especially before going through inspection. That was just one mistruth in that video. There is and has been an end to this. Years ago. TWH's are the soundest and cleanest horses of all breeds. All this to-ing and fro-ing about the big lick horses being abused and mistreated is just not true. I have been in this industry over 60 years and I know. I know where it was and how far it has come to having a good clean sound horse. Get an education about this great breed and what's the REAL truth. Go to some TWH barns and shows. See for yourself. Ask to ride one. I promise you if you ride one today, you'll own one tomorrow. The TWH bashers are ignorant and live in lies from 30-50 years ago. The violators of the Federal Horse Protection Act are subject to suspensions, huge fines and jail time. Why would anyone EVER break that law and I'm telling you everyone in the WH Industry knows this law and are very careful to comply. EVERYONE knows this except the people who don't.........the sensational seeking TWH bashers with their ignorant opinions. We in the industry love our horses and applaud the riddance of soring and the showing of sound, clean horses. I just will never understand why bashers of any thing or person don't bother to get their facts straight before jumping on that false bandwagon. If you don't like to watch our horse then move on. We are not abusive to our horses and if we were there are serious consequences (thanks to the cheaters and crooks) . The honest people in this industry love this horse and the last thing wanted is any sort of abuse of it.

  • @mrsdragonite
    @mrsdragonite 3 года назад +8

    My mom was an exercise rider for River Downs and Turfway park. Horses are treated so, so poorly. As a child I'd lash out at owners I'd see hitting or cussing their horses but I was just mocked and yelled at too. Some really abusive, fùcked up people end up working with horses. My mother ended up finding all manners of womanizers and pedophiles too. My childhood suffered for it. I just do not have a good impression of horse handlers.

    • @rockwithmoss1901
      @rockwithmoss1901 11 месяцев назад

      So your experience is based on someone else's opinion of what they think they saw or think they know

    • @mrsdragonite
      @mrsdragonite 11 месяцев назад

      @rockwithmoss1901 No, did you read? It's what I saw as a child. When is there ever a good time to abuse an animal because it doesn't listen? Humans are so arrogant. Touch grass.

    • @0hMyLife
      @0hMyLife 11 месяцев назад

      @@rockwithmoss1901 are you mentally damaged?? Can you read???? This was all this person's life experiences. THEY saw abuse! Their mother brought womanizers and pedophiles into their life!!
      You're "special".....

    • @kseniacatxxx3899
      @kseniacatxxx3899 Месяц назад

      ​@@rockwithmoss1901I don't think you understood their comment...

  • @freereinartstudio1463
    @freereinartstudio1463 Год назад

    thank you for sharing this info.

  • @JonalynH
    @JonalynH 10 месяцев назад +1

    All that to hide the scars from abuse.

  • @susanholmes8468
    @susanholmes8468 7 лет назад +5

    This poor horse is so patient......this should be banned immediately.

  • @honeybearasmr2912
    @honeybearasmr2912 3 года назад +3

    THIS IS SO MEAN TO A HORSE!!!! I am a equestrian and I have not seen anything so mean to a horse. PLEASE MAKE THIS STOP RIGHT NOW!!!!

  • @ProphetessShelleyannBellet
    @ProphetessShelleyannBellet 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you for doing this video this is just the truth of what everyone already knows they will go to all links because they've been doing this for years and they've gotten away with it they know that it's wrong and it's all for money most of these trainers that's how they make their money and they're not going to let anybody stop them just want to say thank you for doing this video and I pray more people will share this❤ globally

  • @colleencarroll4190
    @colleencarroll4190 Год назад +2

    It needs to be done to those that do this to horses and the people that ride them like sacks of rocks! You are witnessing INHUMANITY and BULLY TACTICS TO THOSE THAT CANNOT PROTECT THEMSELVES - - THE HORSES!

    • @lynnejones9785
      @lynnejones9785 Год назад

      Read this. It may help your understanding of how far off-base you are with your TWH bashing. The TWH is protected by the federal government and laws are in place to protect it. Maybe you are not current on the laws. You cannot cover scars on a horse as they are palpable and can be felt under the hair. So that is a myth. In fact, rules are that a horse cannot have ANY foreign substance on them at all. NOTHING . Especially before going through inspection. That was just one mistruth in that video. There is and has been an end to this. Years ago. TWH's are the soundest and cleanest horses of all breeds. All this to-ing and fro-ing about the big lick horses being abused and mistreated is just not true. I have been in this industry over 60 years and I know. I know where it was and how far it has come to having a good clean sound horse. Get an education about this great breed and what's the REAL truth. Go to some TWH barns and shows. See for yourself. Ask to ride one. I promise you if you ride one today, you'll own one tomorrow. The TWH bashers are ignorant and live in lies from 30-50 years ago. The violators of the Federal Horse Protection Act are subject to suspensions, huge fines and jail time. Why would anyone EVER break that law and I'm telling you everyone in the WH Industry knows this law and are very careful to comply. EVERYONE knows this except the people who don't.........the sensational seeking TWH bashers with their ignorant opinions. We in the industry love our horses and applaud the riddance of soring and the showing of sound, clean horses. I just will never understand why bashers of any thing or person don't bother to get their facts straight before jumping on that false bandwagon. If you don't like to watch our horse then move on. We are not abusive to our horses and if we were there are serious consequences (thanks to the cheaters and crooks) . The honest people in this industry love this horse and the last thing wanted is any sort of abuse of it.

  • @LifeAsAHunterJumper
    @LifeAsAHunterJumper 2 года назад

    Horses deserve better this makes me cry.

  • @tammyfox6060
    @tammyfox6060 Год назад +1

    These horses are horribly abused and tortured . These horses should be shown at a natural hate and not with this kind of shoeing. I have seen their back ends have broke down and could not recover. I also saw these type of shoeing top the whole hoof off and expose the sensitive tissue. This type of shoeing needs to be banned..STOP BIG LOCK SHOWING...

  • @kathyaronson2104
    @kathyaronson2104 4 года назад +5

    "Oh what a tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive."

  • @dianekruger5977
    @dianekruger5977 Год назад +3

    There's a rescue group in Tennessee that protest at Big Lick shows. They go to Auctions where horses are sold mainly to what are called Kill Buyers, meaning, people who buy horses to sell for slaughter, for people to eat in other countries. Anyways, Tennessee walking horses end up there at auction when they can no longer perform. They have rescued some. I remember one video on their RUclips channel, I think it was a Tennessee Walker, with a broken leg.

    • @dianekruger5977
      @dianekruger5977 Год назад +3

      The rescue group is called Horse Plus Humane Society. They rescue other animals as well, dogs, cats, puppies, kittens, even a Salcata tortoise, you name it , they try to rescue it. They also mentor other rescues. Just watched a new video earlier, where they took debt fetal their mentoring to the auction. It had me bawling as usual. They bought a Belgian Draft Mare there. Was so thin, and dehydrated, she laid down, unable to stand any more. They gave her ekectrolytes, an enema to rehydrate her. They got her back on her feet, and by next day on trailer back to the shelter.

    • @lynnejones9785
      @lynnejones9785 Год назад

      What about all the other breeds? Most TWH are retired to the trail or pleasure ranks when they get older, and older in the TWH Industry is 20+ years old. One 6 time Amateur World Grand Champion was 26 years old at the time he won his last Amateur World Championship. Walking Show Horses are in the ring performing longer than any other breed that I know of with maybe the exception of endurance and competitive ride Arabians. They also have a long performing age limit. Big Lick protesters are mostly ignorant of anything about the Big Lick horse. It's just an over 50 yr old lie that has been long laid to rest they are protesting and they don't even realize it. I ask anyone and I mean anyone who sees anyone abusing a TWH big lick or otherwise to speak up not on a stupid TWH bashing forum like this one but to REPORT to authorities with valid, truthful information and not just something another fanatic has passed on to you. If you see it, report it. And that goes for any breed of horse being abused by anyone. But make sure you know what actual abuse is first. Get to know the breed, the people and the education about them.

  • @kojikakoifish2862
    @kojikakoifish2862 3 года назад +3

    If there is an amount of money you can be paid to pour gasoline on a living creature, please see yourself out of the industry.

  • @loganjohnson8010
    @loganjohnson8010 3 года назад +2

    You fools this is how someone would hide scarring this is not a video of someone scarring.

  • @mzpups
    @mzpups 2 года назад

    Wait so does he support big lick or not?

  • @windfall331
    @windfall331 3 года назад +7

    THis is so sad- how much effort they went to coverup the evidence of soring.
    TWH are some of the most gentle horses around.

    • @siiiiiuu7
      @siiiiiuu7 2 года назад +1

      That's what breaks my heart even more. They took the gentlest, sweetest horses and brutalized generations of them.

  • @paardjesz7772
    @paardjesz7772 2 года назад +2

    i'm litterally crying right now :(

  • @henrybaker2721
    @henrybaker2721 Год назад +1

    The horses have no voice show us people need to stand up help each other out with ending this abusive sport we are the people's voice😎 help the horses

  • @Suggestion_Box_Full
    @Suggestion_Box_Full 2 года назад +7

    Can you imagine being rescued and then thinking you are about to put back into it with this "mock prep"

    • @lynnejones9785
      @lynnejones9785 Год назад

      So what's the problem? It is a mock prep and is against the rules of showing a Walking Horse but it is not harmful or painful to the horse. Do you not color or comb your hair aka "mock prep" before you go out in public?

  • @juliasvantesson2993
    @juliasvantesson2993 8 лет назад +4

    How can you do that?!!!!!

  • @kendradarnell5858
    @kendradarnell5858 2 года назад +1

    Stop the big lick, stop the big lick, stop the big lick.

  • @wilmaeriksson4259
    @wilmaeriksson4259 8 лет назад +3

    How can You do something like this? ?!?😡😡😡😠😠😤😤😡😡

  • @journeybjorklund3454
    @journeybjorklund3454 Год назад +1

    i feel so bad for these horses😥😢

  • @XCircusBabyX
    @XCircusBabyX 2 года назад

    Is this man putting toxic chemicals that will hurt the horse on if this is a mock preparation of soring? Because I hope not. Soring is cruel and abusive

  • @kajsasonnerfelt1323
    @kajsasonnerfelt1323 8 лет назад +2

    what is your problem?

    • @anonymousjet
      @anonymousjet 5 лет назад +1

      He's only demonstrating how it would have been done if he was still in the industry. But as it says in the title, in the video, and in the description, this man is no longer involved with Big Lick Walkers and the horse shown in the video is freed from his torment.

  • @gojobuddy
    @gojobuddy 9 лет назад +6

    You can see where the horses back right leg had an ulcer on it.

  • @barbc3040
    @barbc3040 9 лет назад +15

    I went and checked some sorrel TWH big lick horses...the man's right--their feet are a different color altogether.

  • @francescapisani8269
    @francescapisani8269 6 лет назад +4

    HATE! THIS POOR HORSE IS AN ANGEL😢

    • @kittycatdays8719
      @kittycatdays8719 3 года назад +3

      This is purely a demonstration of what Big Lick “trainers” do to cover up scarring.

    • @kittycatdays8719
      @kittycatdays8719 3 года назад +4

      He isnt actually hurting the horse. He used to compete in Big Lick but came to his senses.

  • @libbydibby
    @libbydibby 3 года назад

    Should I be saying good things or bad thing? (I don’t support big lick)

  • @That-cob-called-muffin9
    @That-cob-called-muffin9 3 года назад +1

    This is so sad and the horse is obviously sedated because no horse would stand that still if someone is trying to cover up sores this is unfortunately happening in my area but I brought in the RSCPA and they saved all the horses from the barn

  • @DKSarah1
    @DKSarah1 9 лет назад +4

    People who do this to beautiful animals like this should burn in HELL!

  • @nicholettesalazar6993
    @nicholettesalazar6993 4 года назад +2

    This is why if someone doesn’t do anything about the big leak we should at least make it to where before the horse ever goes in to the show they are legs have to be rinsed off with soap in front of witnesses

  • @salutmademoiselle756
    @salutmademoiselle756 8 лет назад +18

    How can one be so stupid and torment this so miraculous animal so badly??? This also has a life.😭

  • @samnoon5766
    @samnoon5766 3 года назад +3

    That is repulsive! Let’s face it, you’d have to be Stevie Wonder not to see past all that junk they put on to hide those scars! The inspectors are clearly turning a blind eye!

  • @kellynogueira9162
    @kellynogueira9162 8 лет назад +18

    wow! I didn't know I could get so upset from a video! Right at 5:45 he wished he could use burnt MOTOR OIL and SULFUR to fill in the grooves, BUT since they want to SOUND HIM UP he couldn't use that. I want to fill this man's cuts with motor oil and sulfur and he can use his words on how it feels. We need to do more than just watch videos and comment just watching cruelty happen. We need to put our boots on the ground and actually make a change. Anyone who reads this, please feel free to send me dates and places of events and committees to contact so I can get off my ass and stop this cruelty!!

    • @staceyevans2315
      @staceyevans2315 4 года назад +4

      He said he would have to use those materials to fill in the grooves to hide it better. Not that he wished to do so. This is just a mock up. He has realized what he has done in the past and stopped. And deeply regrets it.
      He grew up with this terrible practice. As a child you can be quite naive. Which is why he did it. He thought it was normal. I can agree the Big Lick is terrible. But he is doing nothing wrong.
      This horse was not harmed in this time, and was used to educate others on what a preperation would look like. And to tell people to look closer into what is really going on, and this is why. Sense Big Lick trainers have become masterful at hiding any evidence of soring.

    • @2degucitas
      @2degucitas 4 года назад +3

      No he did not WISH he could do that! He is a former sorer who no longer does it. Save your outrage for the guilty.

  • @mr.positivedino
    @mr.positivedino 3 года назад

    May I ask why this horse still has the big shoes on? This is a genuine question and not meant as an angry comment.

    • @LaurieAnnCurry
      @LaurieAnnCurry 2 года назад +1

      After spending years wearing stacks you have to reduce the height of the stacks gradually since the horse’s leg tendons and muscles have to have to time to adjust, gain strength, in stages. It would be unbelievably painful and cruel to flat foot him.

  • @cyndeemtaylor
    @cyndeemtaylor 11 месяцев назад

    5:51 “ you can see he don’t like this” *continues to do it*

  • @kidsaccount7084
    @kidsaccount7084 2 года назад +1

    I know i'm being the negative one but i believe anyone who does this to horses is a monster inside and out.Even if you do realize it was a mistake,STILL!Just think about it!Someone just holds you down while they nail blocks in your bare food?Do you know how closed those nails are to the bone?Some penetrate it!Imagine walking on a nailed block for the rest of you life?And on top of that poor Vaseline i in your ankles to make each step of your live painful?And cutting TENONS IN THEIR TAILS TO MAKE IT STICK UPWARDS?!!TENONS?!If you cut those you might just say goodbbye to that limb!AND that is like talking your tail bone and curving it upwards!ALSO imagine someone just beating you to make you not respond to the pain in your feet from the Vaseline and the nails!AND THEN pulling on your mouth so hard it bleeds!WHAT KINDA MONSTER DOES THAT????!!!!

    • @Melody-de3wz
      @Melody-de3wz 2 года назад

      Your not being negative you speaking straight facts

  • @tyj5754
    @tyj5754 Год назад +1

    You should be put in jail

  • @melodyyork6578
    @melodyyork6578 6 лет назад +5

    This is messed up.

  • @jessiegresham1924
    @jessiegresham1924 2 года назад +2

    I had a gaited horse her name was Dixie dancer my mother and I showed her all over tishomingo and itawamba county in 2002 she won the gaited horse of the year you don't have to mistreat hey horse to win anyone that would have done my little horse like that would be pushing up daisies

  • @kittenyummy9855
    @kittenyummy9855 4 года назад +3

    That is so painful for this poor horse. I’m literally crying for this horse.

    • @inumaki6407
      @inumaki6407 3 года назад +2

      It’s not happening to this horse, there is not pain being inflicted, this is a demonstration on how they hid the scars on Tennessee big-lick horses, this horse is completely fine.

    • @kittenyummy9855
      @kittenyummy9855 3 года назад +1

      @@inumaki6407 the horse is in pain just by being touched

    • @calamitychaela1994
      @calamitychaela1994 3 года назад +1

      @@kittenyummy9855 Actually this horse was a rescue. So it was not in pain. No longer being tortured.

    • @kittenyummy9855
      @kittenyummy9855 3 года назад

      @@calamitychaela1994 and it was being abused? Doesn’t matter who released the video

    • @lynnejones9785
      @lynnejones9785 Год назад

      "The horse is in pain just by being touched"?????? That statement is ignorance personified to the ......well.......I can't count that high.

  • @haydenartrip6743
    @haydenartrip6743 2 года назад

    How muck did you pay for him to do that

  • @Emma-bz7xe
    @Emma-bz7xe 8 лет назад +5

    i hate you! how culd you do something like this!? 😭 to these horses 💔

  • @mdiddio
    @mdiddio 3 года назад +1

    You know what really works, and is not any work at all, to cover up abuse to a horse when they are inspected? Don't abuse them to begin with. These poor babies.

  • @kathrynrose-schultz9218
    @kathrynrose-schultz9218 2 года назад +2

    No coverup chemicals should be allowed! Testing should be done for sulfur, motor oil soring chemicals and cover up hair, and dyes!
    Different colored feet should be suspect! Brushing of feet

    • @lynnejones9785
      @lynnejones9785 Год назад

      The TWH is protected by the federal government and laws are in place to protect it. Maybe you are not current on the laws. You cannot cover scars on a horse as they are palpable and can be felt under the hair. So that part of your post is a myth. In fact, rules are that a horse cannot have ANY foreign substance on them at all. NOTHING . Especially before going through inspection. That was just one mistruth in that video. There is and has been an end to this. Years ago. TWH's are the soundest and cleanest horses of all breeds. All this to-ing and fro-ing about the big lick horses being abused and mistreated is just not true. I have been in this industry over 60 years and I know. I know where it was and how far it has come to having a good clean sound horse. Get an education about this great breed and what's the REAL truth. Go to some TWH barns and shows. See for yourself. Ask to ride one. I promise you if you ride one today, you'll own one tomorrow. The TWH bashers are ignorant and live in lies from 30-50 years ago. The violators of the Federal Horse Protection Act are subject to suspensions, huge fines and jail time. Why would anyone EVER break that law and I'm telling you everyone in the WH Industry knows this law and are very careful to comply. EVERYONE knows this except the people who don't.........the sensational seeking TWH bashers with their ignorant opinions. We in the industry love our horses and applaud the riddance of soring and the showing of sound, clean horses. I just will never understand why bashers of any thing or person don't bother to get their facts straight before jumping on that false bandwagon. If you don't like to watch our horse then move on. We are not abusive to our horses and if we were there are serious consequences (thanks to the cheaters and crooks) . The honest people in this industry love this horse and the last thing wanted is any sort of abuse of it.

  • @audreyewoldt5669
    @audreyewoldt5669 4 года назад

    this is disgustingly creative

  • @lisafranklin8622
    @lisafranklin8622 8 лет назад +1

    OMG THIS NEEDS TO STOP THESE POOR HORSES

  • @ProphetessShelleyannBellet
    @ProphetessShelleyannBellet 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you for doing this video I pray the people that were born into this industry that they would see the reality and this would stop a lot of these people were born into this and they don't know any other difference I pray that they would open their hearts and put these animals and their position if they had chains on each side holding their head to keep them from moving and being a beat just so they don't flinch from the pain how then would you feel every second of the day every step they take everything is agony and torturous

  • @pixelprowlerplus
    @pixelprowlerplus Год назад

    30 some odd years of 'cowboy magic' - crazy to think about that

    • @lynnejones9785
      @lynnejones9785 Год назад

      The TWH is protected by the federal government and laws are in place to protect it. Maybe you are not current on the laws. You cannot cover scars on a horse as they are palpable and can be felt under the hair. So that part of your post is a myth. In fact, rules are that a horse cannot have ANY foreign substance on them at all. NOTHING . Especially before going through inspection. That was just one mistruth in that video. There is and has been an end to this. Years ago. TWH's are the soundest and cleanest horses of all breeds. All this to-ing and fro-ing about the big lick horses being abused and mistreated is just not true. I have been in this industry over 60 years and I know. I know where it was and how far it has come to having a good clean sound horse. Get an education about this great breed and what's the REAL truth. Go to some TWH barns and shows. See for yourself. Ask to ride one. I promise you if you ride one today, you'll own one tomorrow. The TWH bashers are ignorant and live in lies from 30-50 years ago. The violators of the Federal Horse Protection Act are subject to suspensions, huge fines and jail time. Why would anyone EVER break that law and I'm telling you everyone in the WH Industry knows this law and are very careful to comply. EVERYONE knows this except the people who don't.........the sensational seeking TWH bashers with their ignorant opinions. We in the industry love our horses and applaud the riddance of soring and the showing of sound, clean horses. I just will never understand why bashers of any thing or person don't bother to get their facts straight before jumping on that false bandwagon. If you don't like to watch our horse then move on. We are not abusive to our horses and if we were there are serious consequences (thanks to the cheaters and crooks) . The honest people in this industry love this horse and the last thing wanted is any sort of abuse of it.

  • @jerritrahan9149
    @jerritrahan9149 2 года назад

    If you notice they don't show the bastard's face.

  • @pjcarson3183
    @pjcarson3183 10 месяцев назад

    I don’t remember walk trot doing things like that… then again, walk trot, never did any damage to his horses.. I guess that’s why he’s in the Hall of Fame

  • @kimbrock7642
    @kimbrock7642 2 года назад +1

    This is what you call sick it kills me to sit here knowing that I can’t do anything HE IS SICK

  • @zalenkegoosen3403
    @zalenkegoosen3403 4 года назад

    How can you do that that horse is in pain..

    • @staceyevans2315
      @staceyevans2315 4 года назад +4

      Ice Glimmer isn't in pain. This is just a mock preparation to educate people and show what covering up a horse's feet would look like. It is to teach people to look closer into what people are doing to their horses behind the scenes and not just believe what is on the surface.
      The stacks are also still there because his hooves are so malformed, and he has been in them for so long, that he wouldn't be used to having them off, and it would hurt. The stacks are off of him now, but this was before the rehabilitation process.