manntreads are actually sometimes used in competitive highlander to push into swiftwater second by ubering a soldier into red's house, since pyro can't airblast him away
@@elmaxoTF2 I'd say mantreads is better than anything if you have a pocket med on you as you cant get blasted away easily during übers but yeah you need a medic first
@@sigmapeter2459 if your using your secondary exclusively make an uber push better against pyro, why not just use a shotgun and kill the pyro while ubered?
I am not sure if I am the only one who does that, but I really like playing with the rocket jumper, the stock shotgun, and the escape plan. It feels like playing something between Scout and Fat Scout. I call it Rocket Scout.
@@elmaxoTF2 Maybe try it out and tell me how you liked it :) P.S. If you are good at market gardening, that shovel might be a good alternative, and if there is a point to capture, I generally like using the pain train with jumper weapons.
Surprisingly effective if you're good at rocket jumping as you get to blow yourself into meatshot range even faster than the scout can, and have fuckoff amounts of health to do it with
its all fun and games with the gunboats until you have 1000 hours on soldier and still have absolutely no idea how to use the shotgun. also i just played you tonight on badwater :)
The Righteous Bison has an incredibly broken hidden stat that I never see anybody talk about: + if you use the bison for long enough, eventually everyone on the server will switch to it
Funnily enough, the gunboats would actually be more book accurate to the Wizard of Oz. Dorothy's shoes were actually silver, not red, but because colour film was new they changed it to ruby slippers.
An underrated use for mantreads. Use them in your normal loadouts to push through a choke with an uber and watch those pyros die of confusion as they spam m2 furiously. It is sometimes used in comp in swiftwater apartments. I remember using it in casual and being called a hacker by a noob pyro
You would not believe how many "BASED Jumper" comments I got on my BASE Jumper video. If I get more as a result of this video I will pursue legal action.
I just realized I have the reserve shooter equipped. Please don't market garden my family I promise I haven't even used it on soldiers rocket jumping yet
The reserve shooter is objectively better than the stock shotgun as long as you don't need more than 4 shots, which is the case the vast majority of the time in my experience
Serious talk, the bison is actually really good, I forget which other youtuber covered it, but they summed it up really well that using it is a skill issue in most cases for actually dealing damage, and while not having a key focus on dealing damage, it's the option best chosen for retreating after running out of rockets in your clip when getting into the heat of things as the projectiles have laggy travel time, so it forces the other person to sit there away from line of sight or run forward and tank the damage, which results in them eating 2-3+ shots fired after the first one.
I've recently started using the rocket jumper + shotgun + equalizer since I have shit shotgun aim and it's probably one of the most fun play styles I've tried for soldier
Hello, i discovered ur channel few days ago and decided to buy a strange pro killstreak classic for chismas and join the cult. I shall try to convert as much ppl as possible..
The Reserve Shooter is so fucking hot. I sometimes hit mini crits on players before they even leave the ground from the blast of my rocket. Also yeah it deals well with those annoying rocket jumping soldiers.
Stock shotgun will always be old reliable. I definitely just don't use it so I can keep killing after my Black Box is out of ammo. Melee is Escape Plan, I call it "Winglet Soldier" Also late to the party but whatever
All i really wished was for the gunboats to be actually FUN to use, on one hand they’re an amazing utility tool to help you rocket jump, which i love mobility in the game, but on the other hand it just straight up feels like its a waste of a slot considering you not having a backup gun which is a reasonable trade off
No one ever wants to mention the reserve shooters existence. Yes, everyone including myself pulls it out whenever we can, and yes, i always hit that beautiful minicrit, nothin can be said about the 10 killstreak it gives me whenever i wanna be absolutely braindead
"The rocket launcher that doesn't do any damage, which actually sounds kind of bad..." Me, A trolldier main: "Wanna fuck around and find out why you're wrong?"
I use the reserve shooter and the beggars bazooka, my gameplay is stupid asf it's more of "I oh so wish i get someone flying" and someone mysteriously dies after 5 seconds after finishing that sentence.
Call it a crutch but I can never switch off the conch, being able to go off on a flank and do your own thing without needing to retreat for health after the first fight lets you be so much more aggressive
This video made me feel like my main Soldier loadout of Air Strike, Gunboats*, and Equalizer is considered bad for some reason *The stock shotgun is my favourite weapon in the game, but when I want to kill with shotgun I play Pyro.
i named my professional killstreak shotgun, "Pyro Repellant". I cannot stop using the shotgun. it is incredibly looked down upon when it has no right to be. it does VERY consistent damage and if you can land your shots with it its damn near functional as a 2nd primary weapon.
My opinion is that the reserve shooter and panic attack are best. A quick swap to your shotgun allows you to punish players in short range or when you run out of rockets
I love the shotgun it goes BANG BANG BANG and the enemy DIES. The rocket launcher is cool and all but the shotgun sounds cool, and it's hitscan which just feels less clunky.
Reserve shooter is a direct upgrade from stock if you're a good shot. Not even for the mini crits; It deploys faster and does the same damage, making it great for finishing off enemies.
@@supremecalamitas342 If I'm in a prolonged fight with just my shotgun I think I'm a bit in over my head in a way having the two extra shells won't solve. My playstyle is unusual in that I tend to alternate between Shotguns and Primaries to keep people confused at how much ammo I have left.
@@supremecalamitas342 the minicrits are really op though. plus they apply to anything that's blast jumping, not just from your own rockets. there's a reason why it's banned in every competitive league and format :P
Most people: I play the soldier for the rocket launcher which is a powerful primary weapon and a mobility tool. Me: I play the soldier as a muscular scout with a rocket launcher as a backup weapon.1
I switched to the panic attack because the bison is worse with a Cow Mangler, which, other than the original and stock rocket launchers, is the only rocket launcher I have. I need to destroy sentries somehow.
tbh, if they were to make mantreads any better, they'd give it a fall damage reduction just like the pyro's jetpack. (tho I really wish it had like just 10-20% less damage from rocket jumping as well, it still would not be as good as the gunboats) But my slander for the gunboats is here! If you don't need to rocketjump more than once... the conch is a better low-use gunboats...
please go ahead and try the black box panic attack combo on any unfun maps that have horrible mobility like 2fort. It's sweaty. It's generally campy but if you really wanna sell that sweet australium panic attack with 10000 kills on it for a couple hundred bucks, then go screw the stock market mate.
@2:23 Daaaamn Maxo as a Sixers fan I thought a TF2 video was a safe place to not be reminded of the most miserable night of my life but somehow you managed it!!! All sarcasm hahaha just so cool to see how global basketball really is!!
5:24 oh you poor soul. Another person who just isn't thinking forth dimensionally. You can go with the obvious "its not good" or "a trolldier crutch" and unless you open your minds eye it will forever stay that way and let you down. Its like how the elder wand will always fail voldimort. It doesn't belong to you therefore you will never be able to unlock even a fraction of its power. However for those select few wanting to prehaps become worthy of using such a secondary to its fullest I will give you one hint to help you on your way of finding new and exciting ways of using it. Although the ghost trolldier was removed from the game some time ago there is still a very useful upside to using the B.A.S.E Jumper with the cow mangler, I will leave you to figure out what that is though ;D. And thats not the only thing, I insist you experiment with your choices of primary and melee when using the base jumper as you will find some very interesting combinations to it that give you a lot of potential for even cosplay. I like to use the cow mangler, base jumper and a conscientious objector with a picture of woodys face on it along with equipping the captain space man and a purple polar pull over to make an awesome buzz lightyear cosplay xD.
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Buff banners, telling all they business. Sit in 2fort and be their own star witness
lyrical genius
Do you see the instigator? Yeah he’s right there, fuck around get the whole team losing for years
Yes
Some times I wanna play the flame retardant Scout
Brother
manntreads are actually sometimes used in competitive highlander to push into swiftwater second by ubering a soldier into red's house, since pyro can't airblast him away
I actually didn't know that, noted!
@@elmaxoTF2 I'd say mantreads is better than anything if you have a pocket med on you as you cant get blasted away easily during übers but yeah you need a medic first
@@sigmapeter2459 if your using your secondary exclusively make an uber push better against pyro, why not just use a shotgun and kill the pyro while ubered?
@@DannyCheezits Because that wastes precious uber time to destroy that wrangled sentry.
Uber time management is important.
You've been blessed
I am not sure if I am the only one who does that, but I really like playing with the rocket jumper, the stock shotgun, and the escape plan. It feels like playing something between Scout and Fat Scout. I call it Rocket Scout.
honestly sounds like it could be a bunch of fun lol
The CTF2W mod actually buffs the RJer to fit this playstyle better - killing someone with another weapon refills its clip.
@@elmaxoTF2 Maybe try it out and tell me how you liked it :)
P.S. If you are good at market gardening, that shovel might be a good alternative, and if there is a point to capture, I generally like using the pain train with jumper weapons.
It’s called pogo scout apparently
Surprisingly effective if you're good at rocket jumping as you get to blow yourself into meatshot range even faster than the scout can, and have fuckoff amounts of health to do it with
its all fun and games with the gunboats until you have 1000 hours on soldier and still have absolutely no idea how to use the shotgun.
also i just played you tonight on badwater :)
Nice
Hopcat, I love your videos! You should make a TF2 one for funsies
You should make a tf2 video
I recognised your name, you’ve commented a few times on my videos and I remember you owning me at least once on Badwater lol
What in the name of god are you doing here?
The Righteous Bison has an incredibly broken hidden stat that I never see anybody talk about:
+ if you use the bison for long enough, eventually everyone on the server will switch to it
+ Respect
unless if they are a f2p who hasn't unlocked it yet
this is a self call out post
I just simply dont
Its funny when 1 soldier with the bison kills people
Its funnier when 12 do
It also has a -99% accuracy hidden stat.
And No Killstreak.
Funnily enough, the gunboats would actually be more book accurate to the Wizard of Oz. Dorothy's shoes were actually silver, not red, but because colour film was new they changed it to ruby slippers.
5:24 HELL YEAH THE YOKAI WATCH MUSIC
An underrated use for mantreads. Use them in your normal loadouts to push through a choke with an uber and watch those pyros die of confusion as they spam m2 furiously. It is sometimes used in comp in swiftwater apartments. I remember using it in casual and being called a hacker by a noob pyro
You would not believe how many "BASED Jumper" comments I got on my BASE Jumper video. If I get more as a result of this video I will pursue legal action.
it is very low hanging fruit lol
There isn't a perfect secondary for soldier, but each one of them are good for a certain situation.
So that why various weapons came out
Unless you're the Bison
@@bonk-tec9381 which is always viable.
wrong. it’s the righteous bison
Yes there is one it's called the stock shotgun
congratulations you are the sole reason i got into MF DOOM last year and now own his entire discography on vinyl :)
Holy shit that is actually so sick to hear!
0:56 I really love the sound effects used in this little intro segment
thank you boss man
@@elmaxoTF2 im honored to be called bossman
Bossman
I just realized I have the reserve shooter equipped. Please don't market garden my family I promise I haven't even used it on soldiers rocket jumping yet
Yet! As in u will?!
@@evee_evvillamar4477 Bossman gaming
The reserve shooter is objectively better than the stock shotgun as long as you don't need more than 4 shots, which is the case the vast majority of the time in my experience
finally someone who has sense. smh my head at all these mfs saying reserve shooter is trash
Serious talk, the bison is actually really good, I forget which other youtuber covered it, but they summed it up really well that using it is a skill issue in most cases for actually dealing damage, and while not having a key focus on dealing damage, it's the option best chosen for retreating after running out of rockets in your clip when getting into the heat of things as the projectiles have laggy travel time, so it forces the other person to sit there away from line of sight or run forward and tank the damage, which results in them eating 2-3+ shots fired after the first one.
Or you could just wake up yo realoty and get infinitely more use out of any of the other secondaries with far less effort
I've recently started using the rocket jumper + shotgun + equalizer since I have shit shotgun aim and it's probably one of the most fun play styles I've tried for soldier
I prefer to use Direct Hit and Reserve Shooter. I'm telling you, combine that with a Kritzkrieg Medic or Buff Banner makes for good clips.
Gunboats + Rocket Jumper is the best combination of weapons in TF2
Hello, i discovered ur channel few days ago and decided to buy a strange pro killstreak classic for chismas and join the cult.
I shall try to convert as much ppl as possible..
I am very happy to hear this, the Cult welcomes you with open arms!
4:09 Without even hearing Soldier I can imagine him yelling "Charge!"
For battle and memes: direct hit, B.A.S.E. jumper, and market Gardner or equalizer (or escape plan)
elmaxo, how do u not have more subs man. these vids are so good!!
The Reserve Shooter is so fucking hot. I sometimes hit mini crits on players before they even leave the ground from the blast of my rocket.
Also yeah it deals well with those annoying rocket jumping soldiers.
The gunboats if you don't trust your team, the panic attack if you do
You saying shotgun is boring is offensive to soldier tf2, he would go for the most American secondary, and you called it boring
Stock shotgun will always be old reliable.
I definitely just don't use it so I can keep killing after my Black Box is out of ammo. Melee is Escape Plan, I call it "Winglet Soldier"
Also late to the party but whatever
All i really wished was for the gunboats to be actually FUN to use, on one hand they’re an amazing utility tool to help you rocket jump, which i love mobility in the game, but on the other hand it just straight up feels like its a waste of a slot considering you not having a backup gun which is a reasonable trade off
The reason why i use the banners
it makes it so that we don't have to wait till 10 seconds for a pub push
No one ever wants to mention the reserve shooters existence. Yes, everyone including myself pulls it out whenever we can, and yes, i always hit that beautiful minicrit, nothin can be said about the 10 killstreak it gives me whenever i wanna be absolutely braindead
Heresy to the backup, it is a beautiful sound, and doesn’t soldier strangle his enemies or neck snap them
His content is getting better and better, that's nice to see.
When he got scared talking about the Bison, I half expected TheWhat to take over another TFTuber's stream to rant about the Righteous Bison again.
"The rocket launcher that doesn't do any damage, which actually sounds kind of bad..."
Me, A trolldier main: "Wanna fuck around and find out why you're wrong?"
I use the reserve shooter and the beggars bazooka, my gameplay is stupid asf it's more of "I oh so wish i get someone flying" and someone mysteriously dies after 5 seconds after finishing that sentence.
The banners are easily the best but man, the reserve shooter is fun
I love how you for once know what youre talking about while simultaneously sounding less like you know what you're talking about than ever
I love how in the intro he uses the classic but never spoke about it
"The Eyelander but a rocket launcher but a lot worse"
If I had a nametag to spare on a weapon I don't use, I would name my Air Strike that
You said shotgun was boring, but have you ever tried the flying buff scout. Both fun, hilarious, and slightly viable.
I heard that ykw blasters song and I got a wave of nostalgia
i use the reserve shooter on plr_hightower and it is like pigeon hunting
4:00 hey elmaxo you seemed to ha-
KILL
5:24 POV: me when yo-kai watch blasters music kicks in: 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I don’t See this mentioned a lot but I really like the music u put in ur videos, especially mf doom I fw it
Call it a crutch but I can never switch off the conch, being able to go off on a flank and do your own thing without needing to retreat for health after the first fight lets you be so much more aggressive
Ma, Ma, look, elmaxo finally posted!
This video made me feel like my main Soldier loadout of Air Strike, Gunboats*, and Equalizer is considered bad for some reason
*The stock shotgun is my favourite weapon in the game, but when I want to kill with shotgun I play Pyro.
1:09 mf doom?
6:23 "this thing fucking sucks" -🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
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As a Pyro main, DO NOT USE THE SHOTGUN. IT MAKES ROCKETS REFLECTED BY PYROS DO MORE DAMAGE. USE THE GUNBOATS, THEY DELETE ALL PYROS FROM THE SERVER.
oh my god, pyro gaming real!!!/?!??!!? i defninitely trustthis statement,,
Its not about the clips Elmaxo, its about sending you back to the respawn room
Hi, doppelganger
I appreciate the MF DOOM instrumental between segments, very based indeed
"Waaa waaa, i hate pyros because they have a countermeasure for my fav class." This is how you sound, elmaxo.
i was not prepared for sixers trauma during a harmless tf2 video.
Everyone knows the best secondary is the Gunboats when combined with the Rocket Jumper
It's scary that you can give a talk despite not being at the stand and the fact that there is coughing when there is no one listening
Yo-kai watch music jumpscare at around 5:40
i named my professional killstreak shotgun, "Pyro Repellant". I cannot stop using the shotgun. it is incredibly looked down upon when it has no right to be. it does VERY consistent damage and if you can land your shots with it its damn near functional as a 2nd primary weapon.
Mine is called, "Reflect This!"
My opinion is that the reserve shooter and panic attack are best. A quick swap to your shotgun allows you to punish players in short range or when you run out of rockets
Ok so I'm just noticing the weezer on the back of his soldier model. That's kinda awesome.
Random fact: rocket jumping with the gunboats+air strike will deal you 15/14 self damage
I love the shotgun it goes BANG BANG BANG and the enemy DIES. The rocket launcher is cool and all but the shotgun sounds cool, and it's hitscan which just feels less clunky.
He uploaded!!
oh and also my favorite secondary with the rocket jumper is the gunboats.
Reserve shooter is a direct upgrade from stock if you're a good shot. Not even for the mini crits; It deploys faster and does the same damage, making it great for finishing off enemies.
ehhh it's about as good. You are worse in longer, scrappier fights, but better in quicker ones.
@@supremecalamitas342 If I'm in a prolonged fight with just my shotgun I think I'm a bit in over my head in a way having the two extra shells won't solve. My playstyle is unusual in that I tend to alternate between Shotguns and Primaries to keep people confused at how much ammo I have left.
@@dickc.normus2406 yes but you said it was a "direct upgrade", for you it might be, but for a ton of other people it probably won't be.
@@supremecalamitas342 the minicrits are really op though. plus they apply to anything that's blast jumping, not just from your own rockets. there's a reason why it's banned in every competitive league and format :P
@@ryvn_ryvn_18 in competitive bonk is OP. In casual (where most people play) it is only as good as the shotgun, and the bonk is just bad.
only just realized ive played with you a bunch in game! great vids dude
Buff banner and battalions backup horn changes based on which team you're on
Wake up babe new elmaxo vid just dropped
whats the music on the mantreads? its very cool
4:09 thom yorke jumpscare
Nice video elmaxo keep up the good work man :DDD
thanks boss man
Btw can u make a video about the crit o cola?
@@grzgaming2219 April 1 2022
did i just got april fools even tho its not april... Damn
I literally thought of that "based jumper" 5 seconds before it played
why’s the projector making the wrong sound? it makes the movie projection sound, but elmaxo’s doing a slideshow
Most people: I play the soldier for the rocket launcher which is a powerful primary weapon and a mobility tool.
Me: I play the soldier as a muscular scout with a rocket launcher as a backup weapon.1
So does anyone else hear the theme to Funky's Armory from donkey Kong 64 during the mantreads?
0:14
bro's voice broke 💀
rocket jumper + shotgun + literally any melee = mildly overweight scout. it's real and surprisingly effective.
I switched to the panic attack because the bison is worse with a Cow Mangler, which, other than the original and stock rocket launchers, is the only rocket launcher I have. I need to destroy sentries somehow.
The Righteous Bison Mafia is very glad you think so highly of our lord, We will be watching
High quality videos bro you are a upcoming tf2 youtuber that may be in the tf2 hall of fame for youtubers
thanks boss, I appreciate the kind words
Would love to see more of these. Good content
Every time I hear coffin nails I wanna just say rapp snitches man 💀
RAPP SNITCHES, TELLING ALL THEY BUSINESS
@@elmaxoTF2 ♥️ my comment bro 🤨😐😔
7:01 Ladies and gentlemen, we got him.
He used Yo-Kai Watch music, it's true, this is gospel, everything he says is true
tbh, if they were to make mantreads any better, they'd give it a fall damage reduction just like the pyro's jetpack.
(tho I really wish it had like just 10-20% less damage from rocket jumping as well, it still would not be as good as the gunboats)
But my slander for the gunboats is here! If you don't need to rocketjump more than once... the conch is a better low-use gunboats...
the based jumper is actually usefull to cancel all the fall damage when rocketjumping
6:19 that theme on that part i know it but cant seem to place my finger on what the name for it is
also lol
Who think they sound Smith breaking into his room because what he said of the Bison
Didnt expect the yokai watch blasters ost to appear on this video
The bison is a good secondary for sniping oh Max you need to remember
Eyy shout-out to the use of mf doom's rap snitch knishes! Good choice.
The shotgun is so unbelievably based
Also everyone uses the air strike wrong and it pisses me off
please go ahead and try the black box panic attack combo on any unfun maps that have horrible mobility like 2fort. It's sweaty. It's generally campy but if you really wanna sell that sweet australium panic attack with 10000 kills on it for a couple hundred bucks, then go screw the stock market mate.
2:00 dude my server clearing strange killstreak festivized nutcracker Mk. II scattergun, (that was a mouthful) Is also promptly named, Ol’ Reliable
conches in generaly are pronounced conk tho, if I'm not wrong.
@2:23 Daaaamn Maxo as a Sixers fan I thought a TF2 video was a safe place to not be reminded of the most miserable night of my life but somehow you managed it!!! All sarcasm hahaha just so cool to see how global basketball really is!!
very cool advice
5:24 oh you poor soul. Another person who just isn't thinking forth dimensionally. You can go with the obvious "its not good" or "a trolldier crutch" and unless you open your minds eye it will forever stay that way and let you down. Its like how the elder wand will always fail voldimort. It doesn't belong to you therefore you will never be able to unlock even a fraction of its power.
However for those select few wanting to prehaps become worthy of using such a secondary to its fullest I will give you one hint to help you on your way of finding new and exciting ways of using it. Although the ghost trolldier was removed from the game some time ago there is still a very useful upside to using the B.A.S.E Jumper with the cow mangler, I will leave you to figure out what that is though ;D. And thats not the only thing, I insist you experiment with your choices of primary and melee when using the base jumper as you will find some very interesting combinations to it that give you a lot of potential for even cosplay. I like to use the cow mangler, base jumper and a conscientious objector with a picture of woodys face on it along with equipping the captain space man and a purple polar pull over to make an awesome buzz lightyear cosplay xD.
You Sir, are a genius
Elmaxo: "These three. . . .trumpets?"
Me: "Bugle"
Elmaxo: "Horns?"
Me: "BUGLE"
Elmaxo: "These three INSTRUMENTS-"
Me: *sigh* "Elmaxo, you uncultured swine."
It was soundsmith in his room with a shovel
The shotgun cuz it’s the only weapon with which I actually perform well after 500 hours in the game…
That kawhi reference was crazy