On a side note, my bestie ingame is a Klee main and she played Yanfei (she gave her klee items to yanfei and yanfei was level 1, this was to raise her friendship level for namecards). She got frustrated by yanfei's charged attack not going off when she wanted to animation cancel. I think they could give a tiny buff to Klee and Yanfei. But knowing hoyoverse they won't. Or they will buff it with a artifact set. But I think animation differences should be adapted based on the fact that newer characters just get better animations. There are a lot of people that love Klee and Yanfei. It's kind of a shame that they wont help the older characters out a bit.
If you have his signature weapon, then ignore this video because it only boosts Normal Attack damage, which means you want to spam normal attacks only. With his signature weapon + 10% more attack speed (either c1 or artifact set), the optimal combo becomes this: Charged attack, then use skill then -> N3, N3, Dash, N3, N3, Dash, N3, N3, Dash, N2, Burst. (N3 means normal attack 3 times). Other than first charged attack, you never have to charge attack again except in very rare cases of more than 4 big enemies. Due to his weapon making N3 a better combo than CN2 or CA, that means adding dash adds even more DPS. Dashing to animation cancel during N3 does not lose dps. Dashing any other time will lose dps, which is why you can't do it during the combos in this video because it wastes time when not animation cancelling.
you can spam charged attack a lot faster during your elemental skill. pretty sure I can fit 17 charged attacks within the duration of non-infused elemental skill.
The best combo depends in how much you invested in wanderer, his signature and constelations all buffs his NA, so the more cons you get more viable the Na combo becomes, but if you are a c0 no signature weapon the highest Dps you can obtain comes from Ca spam, as artifacts buffs it a lot
Thanks a lot for the information mate. I was wondering this. I did notice indeed that the charged attack was aoe, so its probably better to spam charged attacks with more mobs. Vs single target however its Charged > normal > Normal. By the way, I use the same team as you but instead of Zhongli I use Layla. Not because her shield is stronger than zhongli LOL. But more because she can provide easy cryo on the enemy simultanious with the bennet pyro application. This makes sure you get 20% free crit rate/30% crit damage from his passive. If you dont have the 117% crit rate (HAHA) I think this can benefit you for the better. The tradeoff is a smaller shield and less damage on Layla. But the + side is that you can put Zhongli on your other abyss team if preffered. I think a lot of people underestimate Layla. She works wonders with wanderer and is so easy! Just slap a favonius sword, some crit rate and hp on her and you're good to go. Basically cryo 4 star zhongli without the stun. Favonius also procs while her shield is on, giving the particles to the character thats on field. This is great to help faruzan get her ult back way faster especially if faruzan also has favonius bow. Layla does not need the energy that much herself as with 2 favonius weapons, she will get her ult back without needing to have her on field.
I believe you weren’t actually getting all of the charged attacks that you could get in your charge attack only testing. I get around 15 per e cast. I feel like this could change the outcome quite a bit.
This is without his sig weapon and artifact set though, so it's already 20% aspd difference. But in this test it doesn't matter because all tests were done using the same setup.
@@GenshinDPSCalc there's a trick to his CA so that you can cancel the animation before his CA ends. You just need to time it right. But CA is better in aoe damage and NA is better on solo as you can see in your video.
@@Psicko. For standard's sake, i found the highest value of each attack (CA, NA1, NA2, NA3/4) and used these values to calculate the damage. I did this due to there being varying ranges of damage mostly due to the Anemo Resistance the boss has and changes as it goes through its attack patterns. Values of the attacks are listed below if you wish to do your own research. CA only if 15 per E cast 15 CA per cast equates to about 251242 dmg CA only if according to recorded 11 CA per cast equates to about 185842 dmg NA only if according to recorded 5 NA combos with additional 2 NA1 and NA2 attacks equates to about 188754 dm N+N+C combo if according to recorded 5 CA and 6 NA1 and NA2 equates to about 202144 dmg Own CA experimenting without attack speed boosts (because CA speed not dependant on atk spd boosts) found that the average amount of CA that can be done settles at around 13 CA. 13 CA would equate to about 218542 dmg From this, we can conclude that indeed spamming CA at the right timing to cut off the animation is indeed the best way to do damage, however this is not as reliable due to the difficulty in timing it perfectly to reach the optimal amount of CA per E cast. If you did the calculations for yourself and found flaws in my assessment please send feedback as this would help everybody find the most efficient form of dealing damage with the wanderer. NA1:9738 NA2:9329 NA3/4:6836 CA:16350
@@Umbrollax5x7 thanks for the immaculate calculation lol. Actually its not that hard to cancel his ca animation, you can also do this by just by hearing although what it requires the most is smoothness.
It's kinda sad that wanderer seems has low damage as dps. I ma free to play, i kinda regret pulling for him, but i will try to level him up, still his fun to play, I hope mihoyo buff his kit like when he cast his hover mode he can suck enemy (group them up) and more damage in his charge atack in hover mode. I also got his signature weapon, I was wondering if its good with my main ninguang and heizou
I myself dont really have any complaints, outside of him being easily knocked down in his ability, the fact that if you ult his skill ends, and the simple fact of him not being able to fly at high speed for a really long time
Yeah, make his E or charge attack sucks enemy just like Faruzan, that would be great. Also, if they make his blue bar does not go down when he's not attacking in the battle mode, that would solve many issues. I don't mind getting knocked down or dodging as long as it doesn't take away my damage quota for that E. So players can be free to dodge or reposition without worrying the dps loss. (should only work in battle mode though to avoid exploration abuse)
i do agree i did pull him on f2p account and it isnt great he meant for old player with lots of weapon and primos, but i will pull him in my main account because i already have 500 wish prepared
hmm, i have doubts about charge spam. Without hydro buffs, I can spam a total of 13 charge attacks and with hydro buffs i do a total of 16 charge attacks..
Faruzan, ganyu, yelan/xing/ kokomi/ayato, wanderer. Use normal atk cause ca applies 2 units of anemo and blizard Or charge atk if normal build. It works. I use rosaria instead of ganyu
Scara xingqiu fischl nahida (proto amber) sounds good, I will try that thanks!!! Xingqiu for damage reduction and interupt resist, fischl and nahida for quick swap and proto amber for healing!
lil bro can only do 11 CA on this video, meanwhile I can do an average 13 CA in a daily basis without hydro buff, but somehow I managed to get 14 CA on a single fly .. timing and practice is really important to get the maximum result
Now that you mention attack speed from C1, I suspect that the attack speed from both his BiS artifact set and his signature weapon also do not affect his CA.. If this is true, then he is actually better with NA combo instead.. 🤔
@@GenshinDPSCalc C1 affects both charge and normal, his artifact set and weapon do not affect charge attacks and only normal. Other attack speed sources - yunjin c6 and ayato c4 also only affects his normal (at least, that's what the description suggests, specifying normal attack speed). Jean c4 should affect both normal and charge since it states "attack speed" which should be universally applicable.
Well tbh it is amazing if she is C6, he will be really strong. However it is not that mandatory unless you really want to play Faruzan/want scaramouche per se to deal the damage. The idea is to use something like a national team. Going Scaramouche/Xiangling/Xingqui/bennet already goes a long way to deal damage. I would however in that scenario pick for the veridiscent venerer. This makes him more of a driver than a damage dealer because his own dps will be lower. Kinda like sucrose, without the cc but more mobility and more swirl procs. They are both very viable for this though and I don't think I would call one better over the other with this comp because they both fill a unique niche in these comps. Do note that without faruzan you wont have the anemo team buff, so it does make your exploring a tiny bit slower and his flying a bit slower. Every build with faruzan included though, I would not go for veridiscent venerer. His best in slot would be desert pavilion chronicle as the team is then based more on his personal dps. I still plan on using the team with Faruzan though. But mine is C4. I will have to wait until her next banner comes up to try and make her C6. It's still good damage at this point though. I'm already deciding about if I want to pull for his weapon next time (10% attackspeed) and his C1(another 10%). I wonder how he feels then as he already feels amazing.
@Artaleas Ham agreed. I'm only c4 faruzan and I've given up. Gonna save my pulls for raiden. After trying several teams I've settled with Thoma, bennet, faruzan, Wanderer. I've given faruzan VV and Wanderer desert. Bennet has nobless and Thoma has millelith. Seems to work well. Im almost done Leveling up Thoma.
@@jack91522 Oh but Thoma in there sounds like a fun team too! I myself kinda settled with Wanderer/Faruzan/Layla/Bennet. Feels pretty nice, I think the feel is kind of the same as your team as they are both shielders. Thoma is so cute though 😍. Raiden is a good character, you should definetly pull for her if you like her playstyle. She is known to be an amazing battery for any element, so if you use someone with high energy costs it's a bang for your buck.
Oh my god in what scenario is he "weak"? I don't know about this vid but his CA can do like 70k. 90k if you count the abyss buff this round! If u spam it like 14 times during his skill it yields like 900k dmg in just 14 SECS?! And if you include his burst that's more than 1 million dmg in a single rotation. Idk what you gatcha players think what is strong and not strong. But so long if you clear 36 abyss with ease i'm pretty satisfied with him.
- CA has wider AOE, so it will hit more enemies - CA does the same damage as NA, and it also hits more enemies, so it basically does more damage overall
Such a waste. Why make one of the most hyped characters of the game possibly the worst 5 star hypercarry, and maybe one of the worst 5 stars in general. I can't understand it
From my experience using scara, doing NA3 into NA2CA feels very comfy aswell as does a good bit of damage Another thing I do in aoe situations, is NA3 -> NA2CAD (obviously only dash whenever you get the visual queue that his passive activated) Fairly easy to execute, but i really wouldn’t suggest CA spam, it does numbers but hey if you wanna use his charged attack, spam it to your heart’s content 🫶🏻✨
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he fees so comfy to play, hes like the opposite of klee. very smooth attack strings and animations, no need to cancel anything
On a side note, my bestie ingame is a Klee main and she played Yanfei (she gave her klee items to yanfei and yanfei was level 1, this was to raise her friendship level for namecards). She got frustrated by yanfei's charged attack not going off when she wanted to animation cancel. I think they could give a tiny buff to Klee and Yanfei. But knowing hoyoverse they won't. Or they will buff it with a artifact set. But I think animation differences should be adapted based on the fact that newer characters just get better animations. There are a lot of people that love Klee and Yanfei. It's kind of a shame that they wont help the older characters out a bit.
If you have his signature weapon, then ignore this video because it only boosts Normal Attack damage, which means you want to spam normal attacks only. With his signature weapon + 10% more attack speed (either c1 or artifact set), the optimal combo becomes this:
Charged attack, then use skill then ->
N3, N3, Dash, N3, N3, Dash, N3, N3, Dash, N2, Burst.
(N3 means normal attack 3 times). Other than first charged attack, you never have to charge attack again except in very rare cases of more than 4 big enemies. Due to his weapon making N3 a better combo than CN2 or CA, that means adding dash adds even more DPS. Dashing to animation cancel during N3 does not lose dps. Dashing any other time will lose dps, which is why you can't do it during the combos in this video because it wastes time when not animation cancelling.
Oh how time flies, i was C1R1 at the past, now i have my C6R1 wanderer xd
you can spam charged attack a lot faster during your elemental skill. pretty sure I can fit 17 charged attacks within the duration of non-infused elemental skill.
Uh, I could fit only 10 or 11 consistently. Maybe ping or lag matters? I have around 200-300 ping usually 😅
@@Romashka_Sov ping/lag, and fps matters
Nah 14 is max 17 possible with hydro infuse
@@muhammad_ratul 15 max with 60 fps, i didi it
@@muhammad_ratul 14 max if u use the ultimate
Hands down , wanderer is my fave character in the game right now!
The best combo depends in how much you invested in wanderer, his signature and constelations all buffs his NA, so the more cons you get more viable the Na combo becomes, but if you are a c0 no signature weapon the highest Dps you can obtain comes from Ca spam, as artifacts buffs it a lot
with his artifact set u have to make a c first and then u make c
🌸😹We would come to decisive conclusion this day and the curiosity would be put to rest for the masses at large!😹🌸
Thanks a lot for the information mate. I was wondering this. I did notice indeed that the charged attack was aoe, so its probably better to spam charged attacks with more mobs. Vs single target however its Charged > normal > Normal.
By the way, I use the same team as you but instead of Zhongli I use Layla. Not because her shield is stronger than zhongli LOL. But more because she can provide easy cryo on the enemy simultanious with the bennet pyro application. This makes sure you get 20% free crit rate/30% crit damage from his passive. If you dont have the 117% crit rate (HAHA) I think this can benefit you for the better. The tradeoff is a smaller shield and less damage on Layla. But the + side is that you can put Zhongli on your other abyss team if preffered. I think a lot of people underestimate Layla. She works wonders with wanderer and is so easy! Just slap a favonius sword, some crit rate and hp on her and you're good to go. Basically cryo 4 star zhongli without the stun. Favonius also procs while her shield is on, giving the particles to the character thats on field. This is great to help faruzan get her ult back way faster especially if faruzan also has favonius bow. Layla does not need the energy that much herself as with 2 favonius weapons, she will get her ult back without needing to have her on field.
He needs someone one his team to have CC, that will take the place of a buffer or shielder tho...
I wish his charge attack pulls enemies in like Sucrose's E... that would be enough for me!
c6 faruzan
@@michaelblue4619 good joke
@@nexuhs. No but she really does have CC at c6 lol.
@@michaelblue4619 i know, but the luck to get her c6...
I believe you weren’t actually getting all of the charged attacks that you could get in your charge attack only testing. I get around 15 per e cast. I feel like this could change the outcome quite a bit.
This is without his sig weapon and artifact set though, so it's already 20% aspd difference. But in this test it doesn't matter because all tests were done using the same setup.
@@GenshinDPSCalc there's a trick to his CA so that you can cancel the animation before his CA ends. You just need to time it right. But CA is better in aoe damage and NA is better on solo as you can see in your video.
@@GenshinDPSCalc aspd dont affect CA
@@Psicko. For standard's sake, i found the highest value of each attack (CA, NA1, NA2, NA3/4) and used these values to calculate the damage. I did this due to there being varying ranges of damage mostly due to the Anemo Resistance the boss has and changes as it goes through its attack patterns. Values of the attacks are listed below if you wish to do your own research.
CA only if 15 per E cast
15 CA per cast equates to about 251242 dmg
CA only if according to recorded
11 CA per cast equates to about 185842 dmg
NA only if according to recorded
5 NA combos with additional 2 NA1 and NA2 attacks equates to about 188754 dm
N+N+C combo if according to recorded
5 CA and 6 NA1 and NA2 equates to about 202144 dmg
Own CA experimenting without attack speed boosts (because CA speed not dependant on atk spd boosts)
found that the average amount of CA that can be done settles at around 13 CA.
13 CA would equate to about 218542 dmg
From this, we can conclude that indeed spamming CA at the right timing to cut off the animation is indeed the best way to do damage, however this is not as reliable due to the difficulty in timing it perfectly to reach the optimal amount of CA per E cast.
If you did the calculations for yourself and found flaws in my assessment please send feedback as this would help everybody find the most efficient form of dealing damage with the wanderer.
NA1:9738
NA2:9329
NA3/4:6836
CA:16350
@@Umbrollax5x7 thanks for the immaculate calculation lol. Actually its not that hard to cancel his ca animation, you can also do this by just by hearing although what it requires the most is smoothness.
It's kinda sad that wanderer seems has low damage as dps. I ma free to play, i kinda regret pulling for him, but i will try to level him up, still his fun to play, I hope mihoyo buff his kit like when he cast his hover mode he can suck enemy (group them up) and more damage in his charge atack in hover mode. I also got his signature weapon, I was wondering if its good with my main ninguang and heizou
I myself dont really have any complaints, outside of him being easily knocked down in his ability, the fact that if you ult his skill ends, and the simple fact of him not being able to fly at high speed for a really long time
Yeah, make his E or charge attack sucks enemy just like Faruzan, that would be great.
Also, if they make his blue bar does not go down when he's not attacking in the battle mode, that would solve many issues. I don't mind getting knocked down or dodging as long as it doesn't take away my damage quota for that E. So players can be free to dodge or reposition without worrying the dps loss. (should only work in battle mode though to avoid exploration abuse)
Hate these developers, made it so hard and uncomfortable to play wanderer...
i do agree i did pull him on f2p account and it isnt great he meant for old player with lots of weapon and primos, but i will pull him in my main account because i already have 500 wish prepared
Sry but they're never buffing him kiddo, in genshin once a character is released due to china laws no changes can ever be made, ever.
Best Aoe situation comps are national and teaser teams
hmm, i have doubts about charge spam. Without hydro buffs, I can spam a total of 13 charge attacks and with hydro buffs i do a total of 16 charge attacks..
Faruzan, ganyu, yelan/xing/ kokomi/ayato, wanderer. Use normal atk cause ca applies 2 units of anemo and blizard
Or charge atk if normal build. It works. I use rosaria instead of ganyu
Thanks for the recommendation, I wonder can C6 Faruzan group frozen enemies together like Sucrose/Kazuha?
@@GenshinDPSCalc She can group enemies but i don t know if as good as kazuha or sucrose with sacrificial fragments.
how about u try scaramouche/xingqiu/fischl or raiden or kuki/beidou or nahida for either taser or hyperbloom teams
Scara xingqiu fischl nahida (proto amber) sounds good, I will try that thanks!!!
Xingqiu for damage reduction and interupt resist, fischl and nahida for quick swap and proto amber for healing!
Obviously normal bc his multipliers increase his NA damage not CA u only use CA with mobs for the AOE
lil bro can only do 11 CA on this video, meanwhile I can do an average 13 CA in a daily basis without hydro buff, but somehow I managed to get 14 CA on a single fly .. timing and practice is really important to get the maximum result
timing, practice, internet connection and device.
Whats your ping?
Connection speed aswell bro. At my aunts house I can do 11 but at mine I do 9
I can hit 17 CA on a single fly
you should practice too
@@athenos1 i cAn hiT 17 cA oN a siNgLe fLy
The Best part is "Wanderer's Charged Attack HAS NO ICD"
If i have c1, which buffs my NA speed by 10%, is NA combo better?
Now that you mention attack speed from C1, I suspect that the attack speed from both his BiS artifact set and his signature weapon also do not affect his CA.. If this is true, then he is actually better with NA combo instead.. 🤔
@@GenshinDPSCalc C1 affects both charge and normal, his artifact set and weapon do not affect charge attacks and only normal.
Other attack speed sources - yunjin c6 and ayato c4 also only affects his normal (at least, that's what the description suggests, specifying normal attack speed). Jean c4 should affect both normal and charge since it states "attack speed" which should be universally applicable.
It's been rough, men. I want to make it work but it's bad.
skill issue. Mine works perfectly as a hypercarry in abyss (f2p btw)
So ca combo is better?
Full CA spam great for multiple enemies, CA-N1-N2 best for single big bosses.
Imo national wanderer is very good and I’d like to run the desert pavilion set
that's okay, but I'd rather run hypercarry with my c2 wanderer
if I had to spam CA for aoe I am better off using xiao with greater aoe.
except xiao knocks enemies away unlike wanderer
@@0xVENx0 c6 faruzan no issue there.
I think C6 Faruzan is necessary to make him really strong
Well tbh it is amazing if she is C6, he will be really strong. However it is not that mandatory unless you really want to play Faruzan/want scaramouche per se to deal the damage. The idea is to use something like a national team. Going Scaramouche/Xiangling/Xingqui/bennet already goes a long way to deal damage. I would however in that scenario pick for the veridiscent venerer. This makes him more of a driver than a damage dealer because his own dps will be lower. Kinda like sucrose, without the cc but more mobility and more swirl procs. They are both very viable for this though and I don't think I would call one better over the other with this comp because they both fill a unique niche in these comps.
Do note that without faruzan you wont have the anemo team buff, so it does make your exploring a tiny bit slower and his flying a bit slower.
Every build with faruzan included though, I would not go for veridiscent venerer. His best in slot would be desert pavilion chronicle as the team is then based more on his personal dps.
I still plan on using the team with Faruzan though. But mine is C4. I will have to wait until her next banner comes up to try and make her C6. It's still good damage at this point though. I'm already deciding about if I want to pull for his weapon next time (10% attackspeed) and his C1(another 10%). I wonder how he feels then as he already feels amazing.
@Artaleas Ham agreed. I'm only c4 faruzan and I've given up. Gonna save my pulls for raiden. After trying several teams I've settled with Thoma, bennet, faruzan, Wanderer. I've given faruzan VV and Wanderer desert. Bennet has nobless and Thoma has millelith. Seems to work well. Im almost done Leveling up Thoma.
@@jack91522 Oh but Thoma in there sounds like a fun team too! I myself kinda settled with Wanderer/Faruzan/Layla/Bennet.
Feels pretty nice, I think the feel is kind of the same as your team as they are both shielders. Thoma is so cute though 😍.
Raiden is a good character, you should definetly pull for her if you like her playstyle. She is known to be an amazing battery for any element, so if you use someone with high energy costs it's a bang for your buck.
You cannot ask that a Fiat 500 runs as fast as a Ferrari... He's meh, that's all
You did your charged attack the wrong way
you can do them way faster
it's kinda tricky to do but you with training it becomes easy
thank you for this video, i was curious myself
scaramouche is just weak, sadly
Oh my god in what scenario is he "weak"?
I don't know about this vid but his CA can do like 70k. 90k if you count the abyss buff this round! If u spam it like 14 times during his skill it yields like 900k dmg in just 14 SECS?! And if you include his burst that's more than 1 million dmg in a single rotation. Idk what you gatcha players think what is strong and not strong. But so long if you clear 36 abyss with ease i'm pretty satisfied with him.
You are too slow with the charged attacks. If you were faster you'd easily outdps the other 2 combos.
CA too Slow
- CA has wider AOE, so it will hit more enemies
- CA does the same damage as NA, and it also hits more enemies, so it basically does more damage overall
Just call it's Mediocre Wanderer efficient damage.
Such a waste. Why make one of the most hyped characters of the game possibly the worst 5 star hypercarry, and maybe one of the worst 5 stars in general. I can't understand it
like how yae treated but at least she have dendro now
Based but ok.
I know hence I only use him in overworld since I dont plan on farming for his artifact or getting furuzan constelation
yae c0 say hi
@@hulahupjingga ikr 💀💀. She’s hella clunky but she does good dmg. I got her on accident during her first banner with 13 pulls.
From my experience using scara, doing NA3 into NA2CA feels very comfy aswell as does a good bit of damage
Another thing I do in aoe situations, is NA3 -> NA2CAD (obviously only dash whenever you get the visual queue that his passive activated)
Fairly easy to execute, but i really wouldn’t suggest CA spam, it does numbers but hey if you wanna use his charged attack, spam it to your heart’s content 🫶🏻✨