Great video! I see AM4 builds now moving into the same niche that used Xeon builds are in, except with AM4 you have more parts availability and a decent upgrade path.
I recently upgraded my mb to a used b550i aorus itx for $120 from b450 matx, because when the 5700g is unable to be used on budget gpu cards, ill slap a Pico psu on, remove the gpu and run igpu on 5700g for a mini pc server that is still fast for work function.
hi thanks so much for the video, super concise and informative! i'm now majorly considering getting am4 over intel for my first ever pc build, possibly on a b550. it's mostly going to be for emulated games with a few recent AAA titles like bg3 plus dragon age 4 when it comes and maybe some light photoshop/premier use. my current budget is
Hi and thank you very much for watching as well as for the nice comments. 😀 The AM4 platform is a smart choice if you can find a motherboard and CPU at a good deal, particularly if you opt for a B550 or X570 motherboard combined with a 5600x or 5800x CPU. However, the AM4 platform is already seven years old, so it wouldn't make much sense to build an AMD AM4 system now and plan to upgrade it with a bit more powerful CPU (such as the 5800x3d) after seven years. Unless your intention is to only play games from 2023 or older. For tasks such as emulation gaming, even the R5 3600 will do just fine. I can't comment on Dragon Age as it is yet to be released. BG3 is a unique case because it is very CPU limited in Act 3. Even a high-tier 12900K will get in trouble. Furthermore, it doesn't like Hyper-threating so there is that also. The good thing is that it is not a fast-paced game, so having a frame rate cap of 30/40 fps at 1080p wouldn't be much of a problem if you are willing to make some compromises. In case you live in USA, I have the impression that creating a PC build consisting mainly of used parts, such as an R7 5700X, a B550 motherboard, and an RX 6600XT, is within the realm of possibility for around $600 to $650. Such a system should be capable of providing satisfactory performance for 1080p AAA gaming for at least another two years. Just don't go for an integrated GPU, unless you want to play modern games at 720p 30 fps.
Yeah, its really good for machine learning. M.L. is kinda gpu intensive, but its doesnt mean that there is no role of cpu. Remember the higher the gpu memory bandwith the better M.L.. Also, im M.L.(D.L.) a cpu with higher l3 memory is consider good. am also building a pc for ml :>.
@@dayveeee07 in terms of productivity, if yyou can't do without PCIe 4 support for high-speed Gen 4 M.2 or faster Lan/wifi or USB 3.2, then B550m is the only way. Otherwise as you wrote B450m has better cost/features ratio.
@@obnot Those features mentioned are not really in need, except for the PCIe 4, but as what I read on some articles or saw on other videos, there's only a small speed difference between PCIe 3 and 4, can you confirm this?
@@dayveeee07 I don't own a PCI4 mobo so personally I can't confirm anything except from what I have read and watched on net. Theoretically is much faster than PCI3 especially at reading, copying or moving many small files. Practically Gaming performance difference is negligence. Productivity apps it depends on the software. Nowadays, Adobe has optimize it's engine for PCI 4 and 5 so you will definitely see ''some'' differences there, BUT I think it is more important to have a good M.2 Nvme drive with fast cache so to take advantage the bandwidth surplus.
AM4 got the 5950x which does 45000 passmark points. That's enough for at least another 5 years.
Great video! I see AM4 builds now moving into the same niche that used Xeon builds are in, except with AM4 you have more parts availability and a decent upgrade path.
Thanks Alex. I agree. My only consideration is the availability/demand to cost for the used AM4 motherboards in the long run.
I recently upgraded my mb to a used b550i aorus itx for $120 from b450 matx, because when the 5700g is unable to be used on budget gpu cards, ill slap a Pico psu on, remove the gpu and run igpu on 5700g for a mini pc server that is still fast for work function.
That's a pretty clever way to prolong the usefulness/longevity of your system. 👍
hi thanks so much for the video, super concise and informative! i'm now majorly considering getting am4 over intel for my first ever pc build, possibly on a b550. it's mostly going to be for emulated games with a few recent AAA titles like bg3 plus dragon age 4 when it comes and maybe some light photoshop/premier use. my current budget is
Hi and thank you very much for watching as well as for the nice comments. 😀
The AM4 platform is a smart choice if you can find a motherboard and CPU at a good deal, particularly if you opt for a B550 or X570 motherboard combined with a 5600x or 5800x CPU.
However, the AM4 platform is already seven years old, so it wouldn't make much sense to build an AMD AM4 system now and plan to upgrade it with a bit more powerful CPU (such as the 5800x3d) after seven years. Unless your intention is to only play games from 2023 or older.
For tasks such as emulation gaming, even the R5 3600 will do just fine. I can't comment on Dragon Age as it is yet to be released.
BG3 is a unique case because it is very CPU limited in Act 3. Even a high-tier 12900K will get in trouble. Furthermore, it doesn't like Hyper-threating so there is that also. The good thing is that it is not a fast-paced game, so having a frame rate cap of 30/40 fps at 1080p wouldn't be much of a problem if you are willing to make some compromises.
In case you live in USA, I have the impression that creating a PC build consisting mainly of used parts, such as an R7 5700X, a B550 motherboard, and an RX 6600XT, is within the realm of possibility for around $600 to $650. Such a system should be capable of providing satisfactory performance for 1080p AAA gaming for at least another two years.
Just don't go for an integrated GPU, unless you want to play modern games at 720p 30 fps.
Building my rig with a 3800XT and a 3070Ti. 🤞 Should be fairly well balanced for 165hz 1440p
Get a Ryzen 5000 cpu. They have way better IPC, which is crucial in gaming.
Amazing! Thank you!
Thanks for watching.
i just got the 5800x3d whooo!
Congratulations on the purchase. The 3D-cache king of AM4 👍
Why i should build a pc on am4:
Reason 1: I’m poor
Reason 2:
😄Yeah, I forgot to mention the social/economic factors.
Hi, what about a 5700x + 4070ti? Does it make sense (for deep learning, not gaming) or AM5 (7600/7700) Should be a better option?
Hi @Luis Garcia Fresno!
I really have no idea about Deep Learning. It would be irresponsible of me to make any suggestion about it.
Yeah, its really good for machine learning. M.L. is kinda gpu intensive, but its doesnt mean that there is no role of cpu. Remember the higher the gpu memory bandwith the better M.L.. Also, im M.L.(D.L.) a cpu with higher l3 memory is consider good. am also building a pc for ml :>.
Is getting a B450M still worth it?
Depending on what you build, what is the main purpose of it, the budget and the market you have access to.
@@obnot More on productivity, b550m here is OP and b450m mobo's with good VRM are cheaper.
@@dayveeee07 in terms of productivity, if yyou can't do without PCIe 4 support for high-speed Gen 4 M.2 or faster Lan/wifi or USB 3.2, then B550m is the only way. Otherwise as you wrote B450m has better cost/features ratio.
@@obnot Those features mentioned are not really in need, except for the PCIe 4, but as what I read on some articles or saw on other videos, there's only a small speed difference between PCIe 3 and 4, can you confirm this?
@@dayveeee07 I don't own a PCI4 mobo so personally I can't confirm anything except from what I have read and watched on net.
Theoretically is much faster than PCI3 especially at reading, copying or moving many small files. Practically Gaming performance difference is negligence. Productivity apps it depends on the software.
Nowadays, Adobe has optimize it's engine for PCI 4 and 5 so you will definitely see ''some'' differences there, BUT I think it is more important to have a good M.2 Nvme drive with fast cache so to take advantage the bandwidth surplus.