I'm just uploading this video to combine all three cutscenes involving Meteion's transformation, as an explanation for a friend who has no time for MMOs.
when meteion says: greetings, can you hear me? I mean u no harm. I wish only to hear your words, share your feelings, know your thoughts. may we please be friends? Holy shit I bet she and her sisters said all that to all those worlds and their lifeforms they visited.
First I though Meteion's sisters met an entity in the outer space like Jenova that caused the final day. Our Meteion felt it the torture it is doing to her sisters through the sync, and that's how that entity able to find Etheirys.
@@navy7611 honestly I held onto 2 ideas- either something happened to the sisters or the sisters brought something's attention to etheirys. i was so convinced there was a world-eater and that was why all the worlds beyond had perished lol
Not gonna lie, Endwalker touched on some serious shit I deal with on a daily basis. Existential crisis aside, it was super depressing for me and not necessarily in a bad way but just put me in a place. What I'd give to be one of those people who can just go through life without feeling that kinda paralyzing fear that is the unknowing my own existence and the finality of dying. It does nothing to better you, soul shattering anxiety of the worse kind.
I know this is late, but gosh I feel this. Badly. That sort of anxiety is so incredibly encumbering, and just nags at you constantly. Even if I try to live in the moment and somehow bury it in my mind, it always comes back to me, especially when I'm half awake. Wish I knew what to do for it. I'm at least able to get respite from it in my dreams, I can only hope it's the same for you.
Emet: Well now 'who' could've caused this to even happen? Hermes: Well it could've been something outside of Etheirys... Meteion's sisters: You called?
Thanks for putting this together! I sometimes go back and watch these scenes cuz they're so good, but I always have to look through someone's playthrough for the right parts. This is great, thanks!
@@darekun46 ostrakon like u see on ultima thule is the greek word for a shard, notably a shard of pottery. the planets are numbered and the shards are of those planets. thats why we see the fates she spoke of.. on those shards. the sisters themselves are called the meteia.
Damn i remember my reaction after they were discussing the cause of the finak days and who was behind. When meteion started speaking i felt my heart pound. And then the report came. I couldn't stop saying "no no no not her please it cant be her!" She was so innocent. 😞 an apocalypse not caused by evil intention or by accident but immense pain.
19:46 We had to have seen some of the races she mentions here I can think of the last world from the dead ends dungeon being the one that sought for only joy
Just reminding me that both Hermes and Emet-Selch are assholes who almost ended everything; Hermes because he refused to let us talk to Meteion and then got nihilistic and sent her away, and Emet-Selch for insisting on destroying her after hearing the report. Neither of them recognized or cared that she was a scared little girl who needed a friend to talk that terrible truth to and help her come to terms with it.
Looking back, and I know this was posted a year ago, would things have truly been any different had our WoL been able to speak with her after the report? And had us share our feelings in that moment? Just a musing
@@daheck5961 No not that. It's the alien-like ambience that plays when she first starts acting strange, then again at the shelter when she first reports on dead worlds, and again in Ultima Thule with the robots. In this video at 4:46 and again at 10:35
@@daheck5961 Not that one, that's the creepy ambience that plays whenever something bad is about to happen in EW. In this video at 3:20 13:13 and 19:48
That's a different world entirely, you see a part of it in the dungeon afterewards. The original homeland of the Lalas is on the Source. Do the Alolao Island criterion dungeon.
I actually lowered volume in general years ago along with lowering music slightly further for some reason, and had completely forgotten about that until after I uploaded the video and realized the volume in general is much lower than I had remembered. It's this way only because I have no speakers and listen exclusively on headphones, and I was only recording this video to show how this game handles its writing to a personal friend who has no time for MMOs. As such, I wasn't going to re-record this after realizing what was happening with the volume. Sorry. :(
I think it's fitting that we refer to our character as WoL, since we seem to share our emotive depth with that of a wall. Come on Squenix, would it have been so hard to make our WoL look less bored?
8 races, 2 genders, at least 2 distinct variations for each that basically means a metric fuck ton of unique player face models and animations. yes it actually is a lot to ask for unfortunately.
@@brennanlable Yet still, SWTOR a game from 2012 gives us 8 classes and several expansions, each class with own voice actors for both genders as well as multiple races and model sizes.
@@brennanlable Still running. What I wanted to say was, FF XIV is awesome but not perfect, and there are features and areas that can or should be improved. Though many of that will be covered by the Graphical upgrades over time.
@@arphayas2826 saying something can be improved is all well and good but whether or not it is feasible is not something a consumer has any knowledge of. It would be nice to have more content yes but whether or not some game made in the past was able to make more races has fuck all to do with ffxiv. Its just useless speculation and griping
This is amazing. I hope FF14 will become a single player game or at least will get a mode to get the full content solo. Instead of NPC helpers, just turn down the bosses and add them to a different mode. This lore and story is too good for the MMORPG and its gameplay.
Im a fan of the former myself, but I believe a lot would be lost in that format, bc it depends on the meta narrative. Unless maybe your character plays like the first wol in FF1.
At 22:11 was i the only one who got Yunalesca vibes? XD Also am I the only one who thinks the whole "Bad invention going rogue" trope with Meteion was PROFOUNDLY anticlimatic after 5 expansions of questions?
Yunalesca didn't want the people to drown in sorrow. Meteion is saying f*ck it lets all drown. yunalesca gave up after the false hope was given up by yuna and crew and decided to peace out but Meteion was too sad and angry and decided to take it upon herself to go Seymour style on the universe.
Yup got Lucemon vibes from Digimon. Coincidentally Lucemon SM, Lucemon's mega form, is holding what looks like a planet, while the Endsinger just creates planets to throw at her foes. Also I found her hair and feet creepy even in her blue form.
Eh i mean is she really EVIL though... like she was definitely bringing forth a mass universal extinction however this was never really an intention toward wrongness but rather a solution to all life left in existence, basically the answer to the question they thougt was the correction, which was eternal respite for all living beings who still exist
she isnt evil though? shes young and naive, and hermes entrusted the duty of finding the answer to a flawed question, and finding no hopeful answer to said question she found so reasons for living, and became nihilistic. He created her to be intensely empathetic, being mostly dynamis- and didn't bother to teach her how to deal with painful emotions.
@@asteri8299 he said dynamis was an esoteric subject to begin with, being their aetheric density made it so hard to even perceive. also he himself was trying to reach out to others to discuss how one deals with painful emotions, seeks meaning. he wanted a diversity of perspective. i do agree tho. calling her evil is missing the point.
IRL, the meaning of life is this: you get out of life what you put into it - whether that be in service to self, others, or none - your life is what you make of it.
There is no meaning… save the meaning we make for ourselves. Find something you enjoy, and make it your meaning. At least, that's my answer to your comment. However, what we see here is something yet different. When Meteion summarized her report, noone explicated the summary of the summary: All those dead stars focused too much on suffering. Pleasure fell by the wayside, effectively eliminated alongside suffering. And they despaired for living without pleasure. It is, in the sense of the classical greek schools of philosophy, advocating maximizing of pleasure as essential, and disdains exclusively minimizing pain as a folly that dooms civilizations. Thus, the meaning is pleasure. It's not that there is no meaning, it's that pain is not the meaning.
Игры
God damnit Hermes. You took a perfectly good bird girl collective consciousness and gave it depression
Even worse, Hermes gave it a mission without giving it the possibility that shit can go wrong and it gave itself depression.
and identity disorder
when meteion says:
greetings, can you hear me? I mean u no harm.
I wish only to hear your words, share your feelings, know your thoughts. may we please be friends?
Holy shit I bet she and her sisters said all that to all those worlds and their lifeforms they visited.
It made me wonder if she really wanted to be _our_ friend, since she used the same script on us.
First I though Meteion's sisters met an entity in the outer space like Jenova that caused the final day.
Our Meteion felt it the torture it is doing to her sisters through the sync, and that's how that entity able to find Etheirys.
@@bigfoxkiIt'd actually be cool
"If you were too shed your flesh you can come with me"
That line scares me from it being asked so casually
Then confesses it was a query for permission to kill him then and there.
Anyone else start to think the final boss was gonna be Aliens?
Yes. The salutation Meteion gave seemed out of place. Like it was an alien trying to communicate with them.
All aliens are dead in ff14 no?
I was expecting gygas or something lol
@@navy7611 honestly I held onto 2 ideas- either something happened to the sisters or the sisters brought something's attention to etheirys. i was so convinced there was a world-eater and that was why all the worlds beyond had perished lol
@@navy7611 dragons are aliens
Not gonna lie, Endwalker touched on some serious shit I deal with on a daily basis.
Existential crisis aside, it was super depressing for me and not necessarily in a bad way but just put me in a place.
What I'd give to be one of those people who can just go through life without feeling that kinda paralyzing fear that is the unknowing my own existence and the finality of dying. It does nothing to better you, soul shattering anxiety of the worse kind.
I know this is late, but gosh I feel this. Badly. That sort of anxiety is so incredibly encumbering, and just nags at you constantly. Even if I try to live in the moment and somehow bury it in my mind, it always comes back to me, especially when I'm half awake. Wish I knew what to do for it. I'm at least able to get respite from it in my dreams, I can only hope it's the same for you.
When you got to this CS. And hearing what she said. It was like a bomb fell.
Emet: Well now 'who' could've caused this to even happen?
Hermes: Well it could've been something outside of Etheirys...
Meteion's sisters: You called?
Thanks for putting this together! I sometimes go back and watch these scenes cuz they're so good, but I always have to look through someone's playthrough for the right parts. This is great, thanks!
I always thought the names she stated at the begining of each fact was a planet. It was her sisters names
Oooh! I didnt realize that!
And how sad is it that her sisters were just given numbers for names?
Hena = 1
Dyo = 2
Tria = 3
Tessera = 4
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Okto = 8
Ennea = 9
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Deka-pente = 15
@@darekun46 ostrakon like u see on ultima thule is the greek word for a shard, notably a shard of pottery. the planets are numbered and the shards are of those planets. thats why we see the fates she spoke of.. on those shards. the sisters themselves are called the meteia.
They werent her sisters names, those are just Greek numbers. She said she was reporting "in order of numerical code," meaning 1. 2. 3. etc.
Damn i remember my reaction after they were discussing the cause of the finak days and who was behind. When meteion started speaking i felt my heart pound. And then the report came.
I couldn't stop saying "no no no not her please it cant be her!" She was so innocent. 😞 an apocalypse not caused by evil intention or by accident but immense pain.
Caused by the recklessness of Hermes. A poorly worded question, no doubt.
19:46 We had to have seen some of the races she mentions here
I can think of the last world from the dead ends dungeon being the one that sought for only joy
She would love to know Emil.
Poor Meteion, I just wanna hug her like a doll.
cute Meteion. Donut cry! I want to hold Meteion.
Just reminding me that both Hermes and Emet-Selch are assholes who almost ended everything; Hermes because he refused to let us talk to Meteion and then got nihilistic and sent her away, and Emet-Selch for insisting on destroying her after hearing the report. Neither of them recognized or cared that she was a scared little girl who needed a friend to talk that terrible truth to and help her come to terms with it.
neither of them were equipped to help her. this was the first time despair was ever a thing for the ancients. they never saw it coming.
Looking back, and I know this was posted a year ago, would things have truly been any different had our WoL been able to speak with her after the report? And had us share our feelings in that moment?
Just a musing
@@Krysta1Rose *Nods*
creation magic, introduced them to abomination and then damnation
Let chaos take the world
Meteion: I heard you wanted nightmare fuel.
WoL: Pls no.
Meteion: Sorry, all this nightmare fuel has to go somewhere
Such a brilliant game.
As long as you can slog through the first 300 hours
@@chrispysaidThe only thing keeping me away
When Meteion's eyes turned black and began to bleed, I realized I was in for a ride of an expansion.
Poor meteion. Happy meteion is what I live
For
Does anyone know what the OST is called from 8.09 ?
Anyone know what the music is that plays during Meteion's report? It isn't on the EW album.
I'd also like to know.
It’s called “What Comes Of Despair”
@@daheck5961 No not that. It's the alien-like ambience that plays when she first starts acting strange, then again at the shelter when she first reports on dead worlds, and again in Ultima Thule with the robots. In this video at 4:46 and again at 10:35
@@TheLQGaming ok I think I found it, I think it’s called “Tremble”
@@daheck5961 Not that one, that's the creepy ambience that plays whenever something bad is about to happen in EW. In this video at 3:20 13:13 and 19:48
Dawntrail Spoilers:
11:27 is that one of the Lala's original location before they went to Alexandria?
That's a different world entirely, you see a part of it in the dungeon afterewards. The original homeland of the Lalas is on the Source. Do the Alolao Island criterion dungeon.
Anyone know the name of the track at 10:36? I've been trying to find the name of it ever since this expansion released and I still haven't found it
I'm not 100% sure but I'm pretty sure I heard that track somewhere in ARR content, probably during one of the cutscenes for Coil.
Weird how Hermes refers to himself and his people as "we ancients" since, y'know, from his perspective, he and his are quite modern
did you run noise reduction on a cutscene?
that's the only explanation I can think of for how the audio cuts in and out like that when people talk...
I actually lowered volume in general years ago along with lowering music slightly further for some reason, and had completely forgotten about that until after I uploaded the video and realized the volume in general is much lower than I had remembered.
It's this way only because I have no speakers and listen exclusively on headphones, and I was only recording this video to show how this game handles its writing to a personal friend who has no time for MMOs. As such, I wasn't going to re-record this after realizing what was happening with the volume. Sorry. :(
Anyone know what the name of the OST is at 16:21 ?
Flight from FFXIV version 3.4
It's called *Flight*
Emet is the smartest of the pack.
Let me hug you!
I think it's fitting that we refer to our character as WoL, since we seem to share our emotive depth with that of a wall.
Come on Squenix, would it have been so hard to make our WoL look less bored?
8 races, 2 genders, at least 2 distinct variations for each that basically means a metric fuck ton of unique player face models and animations.
yes it actually is a lot to ask for unfortunately.
@@brennanlable Yet still, SWTOR a game from 2012 gives us 8 classes and several expansions, each class with own voice actors for both genders as well as multiple races and model sizes.
@@arphayas2826 where's SWOTR now?
@@brennanlable Still running.
What I wanted to say was, FF XIV is awesome but not perfect, and there are features and areas that can or should be improved. Though many of that will be covered by the Graphical upgrades over time.
@@arphayas2826 saying something can be improved is all well and good but whether or not it is feasible is not something a consumer has any knowledge of. It would be nice to have more content yes but whether or not some game made in the past was able to make more races has fuck all to do with ffxiv. Its just useless speculation and griping
AAAY THE SKALLIC AIMING COAT LETSGO FELLOW BARD!
This is amazing. I hope FF14 will become a single player game or at least will get a mode to get the full content solo. Instead of NPC helpers, just turn down the bosses and add them to a different mode. This lore and story is too good for the MMORPG and its gameplay.
Im a fan of the former myself, but I believe a lot would be lost in that format, bc it depends on the meta narrative. Unless maybe your character plays like the first wol in FF1.
At 22:11 was i the only one who got Yunalesca vibes? XD
Also am I the only one who thinks the whole "Bad invention going rogue" trope with Meteion was PROFOUNDLY anticlimatic after 5 expansions of questions?
I will free you before you can drown in your sorrow. Let me be your liberator.
@@tetraspirit13 exactly! 😁
Yunalesca didn't want the people to drown in sorrow. Meteion is saying f*ck it lets all drown. yunalesca gave up after the false hope was given up by yuna and crew and decided to peace out but Meteion was too sad and angry and decided to take it upon herself to go Seymour style on the universe.
UOH Meteion-chan 😭😭😭
Please stop this apocalypse or corection will needed 💢💢💢
11:54 :: Tessera is Earth, BTW.
She must have read some Edgar Allen poe. Lol goth phase
I knew she was evil the first moment I laid eyes on her.
Yup got Lucemon vibes from Digimon. Coincidentally Lucemon SM, Lucemon's mega form, is holding what looks like a planet, while the Endsinger just creates planets to throw at her foes.
Also I found her hair and feet creepy even in her blue form.
She had creep vibes
Eh i mean is she really EVIL though... like she was definitely bringing forth a mass universal extinction however this was never really an intention toward wrongness but rather a solution to all life left in existence, basically the answer to the question they thougt was the correction, which was eternal respite for all living beings who still exist
she isnt evil though? shes young and naive, and hermes entrusted the duty of finding the answer to a flawed question, and finding no hopeful answer to said question she found so reasons for living, and became nihilistic.
He created her to be intensely empathetic, being mostly dynamis- and didn't bother to teach her how to deal with painful emotions.
@@asteri8299 he said dynamis was an esoteric subject to begin with, being their aetheric density made it so hard to even perceive. also he himself was trying to reach out to others to discuss how one deals with painful emotions, seeks meaning. he wanted a diversity of perspective. i do agree tho. calling her evil is missing the point.
Just like in real life, there is no meaning to life.
I think you completely missed the point my dude
@@Theguyoverthere603 what's the underlying point? I read the whole story but did I miss something?
@@dr.merlot1532 fair enough, so gonna self terminate in light of your false narrative?
IRL, the meaning of life is this: you get out of life what you put into it - whether that be in service to self, others, or none - your life is what you make of it.
There is no meaning… save the meaning we make for ourselves. Find something you enjoy, and make it your meaning. At least, that's my answer to your comment.
However, what we see here is something yet different. When Meteion summarized her report, noone explicated the summary of the summary: All those dead stars focused too much on suffering. Pleasure fell by the wayside, effectively eliminated alongside suffering. And they despaired for living without pleasure. It is, in the sense of the classical greek schools of philosophy, advocating maximizing of pleasure as essential, and disdains exclusively minimizing pain as a folly that dooms civilizations.
Thus, the meaning is pleasure. It's not that there is no meaning, it's that pain is not the meaning.