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Husain Haqqani: Pakistan and the US: An Alliance of Misunderstandings
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- Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2013
- Some call the 65 year-old relationship between Pakistan and the US a strategic alliance. For Pakistan, the US has been a source of much needed aid and military supply. For the US, Pakistan has been a stabilizing force in a largely unstable region. Today, Pakistan is seen in the US as a hotbed of terrorist activity and the US is seen in Pakistan as a constant source of humiliation. Former Pakistani ambassador to the US, Husain Haqqani, blames these deteriorating views on a relationship between these two countries that has always been based on mutual incomprehension and the belief that one can play the other. Drawing on his experience with his homeland and his time in the US as an ambassador and a professor, Haqqani will lay out his views on the US-Pakistani relationship and why the two just can't seem to understand each other.
Husain Haqqani is the Director for South and Central Asia at the Hudson Institute.
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I am Pakistani activist and I wish that my fellow Pakistani should listen it very carefully this massages. We are should come out to say that " What are our national Interests". Our National interests are each institute should work as per their own areas. We should again work on policy change and need strong civilian government. Pakistan should respects sovereignty of all his neighbors countries. We should send massage to world that, we are nothing to do with terrorism, we are not enemy of India and we are should not interfere in other countries. Lets think about our own-self, own nations and development. So we should look forward and make our example is South Korea. We should not think about Saudi is our example or Iran. Pakistani need to think very differently for our nation. Hope things will change and as nation we are not supporting terrorism and these terrorists are enemy world and enemy of our nation. Lets change Pakistan with Education, peace, rule of law and development.
You seem to be a moderate person and will be good if most think this way and improve education, healthcare, employment. So can India do same if both focus less on military which can happen if there is less skirmishes.
I heard Deobandi sect is taking over 25-30% Pakistan who are highly conservative and Sufi sect is lowering.
After 8 years how's Pakistan doing?
Wow this man is a wealth of knowledge. Very intelligent and has a great objective understanding of Pakistani society. As an Indian I am often shocked by the obsession of Pakistanis with India and with conspiracies theories. He explains that from the very beginning, among multitude of other things and workings of the Pakistnan's military and govt. Thank you!
I am Pakistani and these facts changed my narrative about Haqqani. And now can understand Pakistan stand and policies in better way. I should recommend Pakistanis to watch this.
, Bro, He changed my mind too. I am also a Pakistani.
Jani what you say now? 😅 as 14th August is also approaching.
if you are impressed by iis talks ten you are a deumb fuck wo need to study and expand your narrative , , , , ,
@@abraryaseen8842
Just look at you're country how people are living ....if you claim ure no longer a Pakistani but American....that already shows how bad you're country is for u to migrate.
The mentality of most clerics in Pakistani is so atrocious.and pathetic
Pakistani government failed to understand that the people of Pakistan will suffer if they keep having moron leaders.....
Looks like Pakistan will go
back to stone age ....
Pakistan is known as a terrorist breeding country....
@@abraryaseen8842 people like you are the problem.
After 8 years, Haqqanis forecast turned out absolutely true.
Aged like wine.
Pakistani policymakers should listen to this guy. His analysis is based on rationalism rather than ideological craze.
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Here’s a window which demonstrates him being smart enough to have gained from opportunistic moves and built an image which has lot hidden from general awareness. teeth.com.pk/blog/2008/04/23/husain-haqqani/
This is one of the best talks I've heard from WAC. Keep up the good work in recruiting figures like Mr. Haqqani!
Thank you for your kind words and for watching! We will strive to keep up the good work.
He is trying too hard to sell his book and appease his current employers. Pakistan does have a problem and its major problem is traitors like Hussain haqqani
A beautiful and well structured debate. From what I understand is that the psychology of the Pakistani public has been made to belief conspiracy theories through disinformation for vested interests. Since media plays a vital role and as Mr Haqqani says that public can be perceptive to rational and simple debates, shouldn't the US start such rational debates on Pakistani networks and save the institution rather than pushing billions which is proving counter productive ?
watch WTC building 7 coming down and tell me it wasn't a inside job.
Amazing talk by Husain Haqqani, hope the Pakistani citizens get to watch this video. Great post by World Affairs Council
Pakistanies don't want like this type of person and factual literature
@@crazybodybuilding5247 yes they like their fictions 😂
@@crazybodybuilding5247 at least make proper sense you nob.
This aged well.. Finally an official from Pakistan clearly exposing the truth that Pakistan supports the Taliban and is helping over throw the Afghan govt. This needs to be shared so those "Taliban Khan" supporters can see the truth.
too late
You know I have hearing since long that Pakistan has always played smart with us since 1950s and fooled us.
That's actually insulting to suggest that generations after generations of the greatest country in the world have been fooled by Pakistanis and we are still helping them
First Osama Bin Laden and now Taliban Govt in Afghanistan.
Pakistan Double Crossed USA!
And you know what, Pakistan will still not face an iota of reprimand from the USA, why? Because they'll shrug off their responsibility by again saying, "This is ISI or Military or Civilian Govt"
One part of the Govt will just take the blame and the other two will continue to thrive and cheating USA.
@@naadanparinda9056 Good lûck with your strategic brilliance
@@markralph4739 Dude the world is laughing at NATO rn. You fucked over Afghanistan completely. Now watch as China sucks it dry. No doubt your Military Industrial Complex made a lot of money, but everyone else lost. Well, except Pakistan of course. Or, to be honest, the Pakistani Establishment.
@@miloblackmetalhateyeah we committed a blunder but to think that's the end ; well i have no recipe for dreams.
you know this out of your extensive in depth service with Pakistani establishment.
@@markralph4739 In today's news, you can't know the reality of an organization unless you're directly employed with them smh.
This is one of the best talks I've heard from WAC. Keep up the good work in recruiting CONTROVERSIAL figures like Mr. Haqqani. He is darling of PAK ARMY and lets invite him again to DISCUSS his thoughts on post USA EXIT AFGHANISTAN!
Wow what a clarity this gentleman has.. spoe so effortlessly and fluently.. i am an indian but really admire his vocab.. clarity of thoughs and openness in expression
How prophetic ! This is one of the best lecture I have ever heard. I have read one of his books. I need to read this one too.
If only there were more Pakistanis like Husain Haqqani, the country would not have been what it is today.
I know for a fact that there are many pakistanis like Husain in Pakistan. The question is, is there an Indian like Husain in India? Please direct me to his talk or post a link.
+Saeed Chughtai You should hear/ read these Indians- Kuldip Nayar, Javed Akhtar, Shashi Tharoor, MJ Akbar, Shekhar Gupta, Arun Poorie, Maulana Mehmood Madani, Aakar Patel, .... Their presentation may appear different from this one because they are in a different situation & location..
Same truth are saying our 100's of indian intellectuals and many of other pakistani too. Whoever said either pakistani intellectuals or indian's truth is truth. if u accept, then u can improve otherwise u r perfect.
@@saeedchughtai3564 Please go to Shahsi Tharoor YT channel. I saw his 1 hour debate in Pakistan tv with lady Pak journalist, Pak guy.
Moreover , Pakistan did not approach us. We ourselves were interested in making them an ally.
Joke of the century.
Really? Probably to prevent Soviet Union influence Pak which is close
@@koteswar009 don't fall into western media. Do your own research. The Victory of Taliban showed Pakistan was right all along. America even tried to make Pakistan into a pathological liers through media. Go and search Pakistan is pathological lying state. You will find alot of videos about it. But the irony is the victory of Taliban shattered the western medias narrative.
Go to RUclips and search Ali dawah and look at his interview with a real Afghan. The girl in the video isn't Afghan but the guy is. Anyways watch it.
Hussain Haqqani is amazing. I wish I can someday become this articulate and vivid in my understanding of the world around me. His journey from JI to being the former Ambassador to US gives me immense hope that people can change if there is open access to information and rational thinking encouraged. He should be a torch bearer for this kind of evolution for a section of Pakistan people.
He should be the next prime minister of Pakistan. That will benefit not only Pakistan but also India and in fact whole of South Asia. Dr Dipankar Datta
Hussein Haqqani is the Director of South and Central Asia Studies at the Hudson Institute.
Very informative, Pakistani should listen to him and learn!
I just felt 'wow' after listening to the complete explanation. That should be people's attitude for a better progressive life and world.
Take your time and follow...the most enlightening of the politics and history of our India/Pakistani/ US...relations
Amazing and lucid observation very beautifully put. Full of introspection and wonderful insight on the history and dynamics of Pakistani politics. Just loved the talk!!!
Systematic rape was one of the chief weapons of the atrocity campaign. Any-where from 200,000 to 400,000 women were raped. Susan Brownmiller (1975), who published one of the earliest analyses of the event in her pioneering work on the politics of sexual violence, reported the following: “Rape in Bangladesh had hardly been restricted to beauty. Girls of eight and grandmothers of seventy-fi ve had been sexually assaulted during the nine-month repression. Pakistani soldiers had not only violated Bengali women on the spot; they abducted tens of hundreds and held them by force in their military barracks for nightly use. The women were kept naked to prevent their escape” (p. 82)." (Plight and Fate of Women During and Following, Routledge, Page 49)
Dear any solid profff
@@adeelahmed9426 well check the internet
@@adeelahmed9426 Jake photo dekh internet pe bc.
What he said 2013 was true , now 2021 exactly it’s happening
He is a hypocrite. He used to be in a right-wing student organisation and then took a 180 degree and became a Liberal. Depending on who is in the government, sometimes he supports establishment, and sometimes, he speaks against establishment. He always gets involved in controversies to stay relevant.
Sir
I need Urdu translation of the book pakistan between military and mosque is it avaliable????
Great talk. I am now a fan of him. True observations.
20:59 So true. Even Christine Flair said that. Zulfiqar Bhutto started Jihad militants even before Societ war and as he wished now again Taliban is in power.
This guy made a prophecy of sort about Afghanistan.
Most certainly
And now Pakistan got their favourite Taliban rule Afghanistan
Best Ambassador paksitan ever had...
This guy has been more of American ambassador to Pakistan then the other way around
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True
He wants Pakistan to succeed but if all you ever do is support terrorists in hoping that they will fight who you want them to fight, then they will fight you eventually too. That is very true in Pakistan today. The Pakistani taliban is destroying Pakistan today.
Re7:00, it wasn't about poverty or sharing borders, the reason why India was non aligned! It was because democracy and leftist ideologies were not seen in India as necessarily on war footings, the same way India and Hinduism do not see a contradiction with polytheism in spite of comprehending every level of idea of a supreme Divine. So India chose a democracy with large public sector at beginning of nation building for home, and non alignment with friendship offered to everyone but refusal to accept bondage to anyone on world stage. Only change since is larger private sector compared to initial years.
Great speech
Great analysis by a great personality. It's chilling it has come out so true in August 2021.
- From someone who's grandparents were born in Pakistan
Wonderful !! An eye opener for Pakistani people. Alas ! They understand him. There are a few Pakistani people like Hussain Haqqani in and outside Pakistan who are aware of the real problem of their country. Najam Sethi, Hassan Nisar, Tarek Fatah etc. But they are called India's or America's Agent. Thanks WAC.
45:42 He wants US train Afghan army for more time. But now US left so we see how Afghan army fell down immediately to Taliban.
How many sane Pakistanis does one find? I just found one.
+chanduR There are quite a few others- Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy, Nazam Sethi, Tahir Mehdi,Tarek Fatah, Hassan Nissar, Air Marshal Asghar Khan who advocate friendship with India. Hussain Haqani lives in USA, Tarek Fatah in Canada- They are treated as traitors by most Pakistanis & face threats to life in Pakistan.
Each and every word of this man is true
Such an eye opener ...
For years our army told us that this guy is a traitor. How shameful
Some of what Haqqani has said is true but we have to know that when he says US gave such and such to India and such and such to Pakistan when they begged the US, we got to remember US doesn't give such and such without strings attached as Haqqani portrays the US to be that angel of a country who just wants to help other countries for the sake of humanity. The US or any big power whenever helping smaller or weaker countries first look at their interest and then use their budget to FIRSTLY serve their own interests and agendas , like for example what they want in Asia, and US presence there against countries like China and Russia with whom they are playing the big game. So if a country or region doesn't or cant play a role which would help the US in its agenda or interest then the US wouldn't give a ear , forget about helping , example KASHMIR, the Kashmiris might appeal to the US and UN millions of times , and knowing well that they are oppressed this Angel US wont come, or another case is Palestine where US has been the criminal to equip israel with Terrorizing weapons of mass destruction, which was illegal, either not to equip any or equip both, or if equipping only one then Palestianians deserved that as it was their country and israelis only settled there in 1948. I guess Haqqani is getting good money in portraying Pakistan as bad. Yes Pakistan might have made some mistakes on its journey since its birth, but then who hasn't made mistakes. Does the US allow its ex diplomats to go out and share all internal government information with the world, the answer is NO.
See Christine Flair talk openly against US foreign policy in Afghanistan Pakistan. And she also told one Fullbright Pakistan guy who asked for Kashmir plebiscite, if he read the first point in UN resolution for Pakistan army, tribal fighters to fully vacate Kashmir(including Azad Kashmir, Gilgit Baltistan), then only India should withdraw its forces but keep some for basic defense then only have the plebiscite. For now the first point is yet to be done.
Ever heard of Noam Chomsky or Snowden?
@@koteswar009 what if India doesn't withdraw?? What is our trust on that???
Btw, this intelligent man has been accused of plagiarism. He is an expert at fooling the international community. Just imagine that you adopted a child who deceived his parents. Do you think he is going to be honest with you?
Now you have an eternal enemy. Well done!
Good
Re 10:00 "each got what they asked for", sounds like the pre war situation in Mahaabhaarata - pak got hand me down military toys, India got booster to agriculture tech and educational institutions establishments! Incidentally IITs in different places had different patrons, US, France, USSR, UK being four out of the first five (number gone up since).
I felt same. Krishna gave to Arjuna, Duryodhana each what they wantd
Sir, you are very good speaker, and has great insights.
As a person who dislikes Pakistan for its aggression to India, I would ask you to stay in US and not go back to Pakistan.
When I say it I mean it.
Good analysis.
When Genghis Khan conquered a city in present day CARs, after a long siege , he did so with the help of some of the locals who betrayed their own city.
After conquering that city and his usual trademark brutality , Genghis killed the locals also. When they protested as they had helped Genghis , he gave them a famous reply
"If you can't be loyal to your own country ; how can you be loyal to me " and killed all of them.
This person made a career as a Pakistani and now he talks against his own country. How can we trust a such a vile shameless person. A person who cannot be loyal to his country ; how can be be loyal to us.
That’s very true Mark thanks for best comment here
Even loyalists cower before truth!
So is Christina Flair against US for speaking against US foreign policy in Pakistan, Afghanistan?
@@koteswar009 Yes and no. I am principally against talking bad of your country while sitting in another country. Says a lot about your upbringing and character. But there is a difference between the 2. Fair lives in the States while this person doesn't even pick up the guts to go back . He acts like a lion in U.S. but that tells you that he will be a sheep there
@@markralph4739 you know how their lives will be in danger if they spoke against Pakistan in the country itself.
Pakistanies don't want like this type of person and factual literature
He was designated ambassador to USA, the right hand of Zardari. Just look at the choices of our leadership....
I have yet to meet an Indian who will talk about Kashmir
Countries which investment in education and health care systems, only be well civilized society in the world. Problems alway be there but how we have to handle that is the main things
India and Pakistan from heart and not hate any religion stop both side and open up economy to Pakistan. Haterness will not good for economy
Don't talk if u don't know anything 😂
54:29 Yes, now Pakistan needs visa for almost every country.
Entirely in agreement with Christine Fair. Look at her videos, also mostly from 2015-2016. She sheds a lot of light on Pakistan/India history. But basically in agreement with Mr. Haqqani.
Isko use kro loans mangne k liye..acha bolta h😂😂
I wonder if we will again fall into the clutches of the Pakistanis as we try to extract people fromAfghanistan after the airlift. Further, will we need Pakistani help to conduct intelligence and counterterrorism operations in Afghanistan?
Lol don't even trust Pakistan they are terrorist supporters who don't believe Osama Bin Laden was a terrorist...
@@ThamizhanDaa1 The Paks play a double game, both helping and hurting us. We can’t trust them but it often seems we need them. What is the alternative? Iran? There is so much bad blood between us that I don’t think that would work either.
@@edwardb7811 India.
Churchill said once, "what I learned from my experience that never ever utter a single world against your country, people or leaders when you are abroad."
Except if you're Pakistani, because you have no locus standi to defend it anywhere.
@@miloblackmetalhate they often ask for Kashmir plebiscite but dont read the UN resolution in first place. Christine Flair replied strongly to a Fullbright Pakistani guy in USA who asked for plebiscite. She told him that the first point is to vacate fully Pakistani army and its tribal fighters. And also that Zulfiqar Bhutto started Mujahideen fighters in Afghanistan against Afghan govt even before Soviet invasion and US funding to Pakistan.
The favorite Pakistani word is "false flag".
Very insightful! Great questions and depth of knowledge.
Eight years on and this Pakistani politician was absolutely correct on every point he made. Pakistan's internal or external policies have not changed a bit, every government in power since the inception of Pakistan succumbed to the power of the military and the ISI, the Pakistani CIA. Except maybe Benazir Bhutto government who tried to pull Pakistan from the gutter of sectarianism to modernity and peace but paid the price with her life. So here we are after 20 years, $2 trillion and thousands of lives on all sides the situation with relation to Taliban, and their Pakistani backers has come to a full circle!!
what a great discussion
A government with communist ideals, elected without violence but rather by democratic principles through fair elections is largely called socialist government. 7:25 you have been misguided dear.
This man should be Pakistani PM . He has a knowledge.
World Affairs Council: As a result of this exposé from a prominent Pakistani statesman, can the WAF point me to video of any forum/discussion it sponsored of how the U.S. Is going to conduct its foreign policy so as to not be manipulated, blindsided, lied to any longer by Pakistan's army and its politician leaders ?
very nice...👍
Very interesting indeed
whatever he told long back, now it happened. it is amazing indeapth knowldege regardiing PAK, AFghan, US and India
One of the most and few reasonable voices from Pakistan... World Affair council did a great job to have him.
Don't brush the complete truth under the carpet Mr Haqqani
The point is the Pakistanis know what is wrong or right but continue their misguided ways. This is a lost cause, the earlier the world dumps them the sooner they will find resurrection. But the central issue is does anyone wants them to flourish !!
I think all MPs/senators and ministers in US, Pakistan and India should watch this.
Re 23:00, wish he would mention the name of this physicist vc of most prestigious university of pak!
Google marle
India has many of those sort believing in strange things and myths.
You Have all quality to Become an President of Pakistan. I am big fan of you
Imran can't talk and he pretends he knows. He is good for crickets not to run country. This the man suitable and must think knowledgeable people to put as a leader not like Army person or player
Who started the 65 war PPP ?
Bhutto was responsible for 65 war
Great observation and do a great investigation now the cat coming out of bag in 2021
Re 29:30, that explains the pak comments on yt calling Haqqani a traitor! Refusing to burn a US consulate with a library, and persuading others to postpone the act for a day, so it never got done! What if Arabs had shown such restraint in Persia, Mongols across the world, anyone invading in India?
Everybody in sub continent esp. pakistan become expert of some sort after retirement and starts teaching shit to others. what they were doing when they were in power?
They cant say much orelse the military ruins them. Thatsy as soon as they retire they leave the country as soon as possible. One prime minister was removed from his power by the military cos he stoped a war.
25:26 😂😂😂😂
When a prediction comes true.
Re 50:00, Haqqani is right of course, but mush was opposite, he ruled (not governed) pak and tried taking over Afghanistan by proxy using Taliban whom he sent to take control, and later declared he didn't think Pashtuns would accept Karzai, the leader elected.
Anja has an exceptionally beautiful nose.
44:24 👌 47:28 👌
A traitor of his country, he has no right to speak. As for this platform, it always promote hatred against Pakistan
Is that a response to what he SAID?
the top looks like fake hair
Where is this person, please come and defend Pakistan now
Pakistan don't need defending , stop crying
Americans were also used by Gaddafi great farmers until gmo
Clutter. Was handed to pak and used and abused
Honest talk from ambassador in parts
Cause there married
An education talk.
Whose payroll you are , haqqani you sob
I sply cant stand a person who speaks against his country in a foreign country even if he is a Russian
Je harami kutta mulk ka kha ker
pala barha ab suuwar kha ker
apni ma behan ko america se chudwa ker
paisay bana raha hai.
lanatullah allal kazabeen.
kuta ki maut maray ga
#1 There's no need to hide behind a pseudo name - not even on RUclips especially on a topic like this.
#2 The biggest changes in nations across the globe have come from within - from people having the courage to criticize their own. "One cannot change what one is not aware of" is I think what Amb Haqqani says in his speech.
#3 We are all aware of the fate of those who do have the courage to stand up to the powers that be within Pakistan. There are many brave journalists, activists, authors, academics who unfortunately will never be heard from again.
#4 If you're not willing to look in the mirror yourself, somebody has to hold it in front of you. What you're doing has consequences, not only for the people in your own country, but for citizens of other countries. And with or without Amb Haqqani, if Pakistan itself is not willing or unable to stop the madness emanating from within, somebody else will come in and do it for you.
@@subhadeeppaul anybody who has the courage to speak against the state faces consequences . It happens in all countries. I don't know of any nation where it doesn't. It's another matter that we look the other way.
But there are very few individuals who would speak against their country in a foreign land and as far as courage is concerned he can't even go to his native land. That's as far as his guts go. The rest of your post is just magnificent bullshit.
There is nothing wrong if he speaks truth. We should always speak truth.
Both india and Pakistan made mistakes .. they must accept and grow up..
Nothing will change as long as the military is in power in Pakistan. $40 billion was doled out to the Pakistanis since 1947 by the US, most of which went into the coffers of the military crooks. They need this confrontation with India to continue as it is a golden goose that has made many generals and prime ministers wealthy. Nehru gave up PoK, Chittagong Hill Tracts and Khulna, the latter two being overwhelmingly non-Muslim majority as an appeasement to the Pakistanis but his foolishness bore fruit in the subsequent decades.
Please don't create false equivalences for the sake of argument.
@@subhadeeppaul explain
intelligent man.
traiter
Illiterate and gadaar
Magnificient Delusions
Hussain Haqqani chosen a path of living as chutiya for rest of his life, dhobi ka kutta gar ka na ghat ka!
Because of people like you Pakistan will never improve. It will always be a the pariah of the world.
You just want to feel good about Pakistan. Instead of understanding the issues about Pakistan
This guy is a sold out agent.
Everyone knows that US and West does not give anyone any help unless the strings are attached. In fact most of the resources at the independence went to India and Pakistan got meager resources- please go and read.
This guy talks nicely so people might think he is very fair. But unfortunately he is given the bigger forum because he is talking what West want to hear from a Bought intellectual.
So sad.
Is it true Jaish e Muhammad JeM group published in Kashmir local papers in 1990 that all Kashmir Pandits to run away from Kashmir?
Yupp your a prime example of who he talked about. Your just a person who wants to feel good about Pakistan. You have to understand the issues and acknowledge those issues so you are able to combat those issues.
Aristotle said that a country makes an Army when it does not trust other countries to protect itself.
Armies and intelligence angencies are the product of mistrust between nations or more precisely humans.
This mistrust could be for any reason.
But the primary responsiblity of an army or intelligency aganecy is not to trust anyone and protect the country at any cost.
I do not understand why this Haqqani is so pissed off with Pakistani Army. All it does is try to protect Pakistan within its limited resources. USA during cold war used to fly planes 24/7 with nuclear weapons to bomb russia. What did CIA not do to protect USA?
This is pakistan army's job to keep India and Afghanistan on their toes which it does and that pisses off Haqqani and his friends. These two countries have been hostile to Pakistan in the past. Pakistan has so many big problems with these countries that they can not be trusted. But yet again Haqqani is persisted and presenting books to reveal the true identity of Pakistan army and ISI to the world. He needs to understand that something that comes out of "mistrust "can not be good.
Let's say you are married to a woman that you do not trust. What do you think your kids will become when they grow up? They will be the result of all the mistrust between their parents.
What does he want? This iodiot wants an Army and intelligence agency to become the symbol of honesty, mercy and truthfullness. Well, good luck with that! Or does he want the Pakistan army to be totally eliminated and leave pakistanis on the mercy of other nations.
This idiot Haqqani is just trying to take revenge on some personal thing or he works for the enemies of Pakistan or he wants to be in the media or he is just simply a jackass.
Is it true Osama bin Laden was in safe house near Pak army headquarters? Is it true Pak army heads have huge retirement life and funds abroad? Is it true Balochi and Pashtun people are missing due to army? Is it true Pak army trained militants to bomb Afghanistan govt areas and Indian govt areas and public?