This is WHY you should SHIELD your guitar - PAINT or FOIL?
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- This is about why you should shield your guitar. I'm Shielding my guitar first with conductive paint and then with copper foil. What works bedst?
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Finally, someone has done a decent before and after audio test and not only with copper tape but conductive paint as well. Well done!
Thanks man. Glad you enjoyed it 😃👍🏼
isnt the sheilding also to prevent too much EMF since the guitar is next to your groin area and can cause cancer I heard
@@angeldaviani8678 The minuscule amount of power that's output by the guitar's pickups is negligible in terms of radiated EMF. That's not a cancer risk, nor any other kind of risk. You get a much larger amount of electromagnetic radiation from your amp's AC power cord (even from the AC wiring inside your walls) and from your amp speaker's voice coil. Really, you don't have to worry about anything being radiated by your guitar's pickups.
@@angeldaviani8678 If you play the right kind of music your balls get resistent \m/
In order for the shielding to work optimally you also need to connect it to the main ground in the guitar.
You are right. I have that where the shielding tape on the pickguard touches the pots.
Thanks so much for watching and sharing a comment 😃🙏🏻
Usually I apply 2 to 3 coats of conductive paint. I measure the resistance until I get something below 250 ohms. If not, I apply another layer.
You can make your own paint using shellac ( you' ll find it in craft stores) mixed with graphite powder. It's cheap, dries in 4 hours and works great.
When using copper foil be aware that not all types of foil have conductive adhesive in the back side. Most of adhesives found in copper foils are in fact insulating. So you have to solder each layer to make the connections. Just a small solder spot connecting the layers.
Thanks for a great comment. Very helpful info for everyone.
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@@MichaelLagerstedt Thanks. And very helpful video.
What I've heard was at least 2 coats. And it shouldn't take more than 24 hrs for a coat to dry? Also if the cavity is on the back paint the cavity plate as well.
Thank You for your comment. That was huge in figuring out why my "shielded" tele hummed so loud"
Best continuity explanation I’ve seen so far. Thanks!
Great you found it useful 👍😉
Thanks for watching and taking time to comment 🙏🏻😃
Beautiful playing man, that reverb is to die for
Thanks Tim, and thanks so much for watching 😃👍
I wasn't sure if I liked the presentation until I heard the cheering when you got full connectivity. Well done, great demo.
Thanks so much 🙏🏻😃, and thanks for taking time to comment 👍😉
Thanks for taking the time to put that video together ,being a filmmaker I know how much more time and work it added to the finished film that's the only video now I need to watch to move forward with my noise issues with my custom tele. Rob from Australia
Thanks so much Rob. I’m happy you enjoyed it. I love making the videos but unfortunately I haven’t got time to do as many as I’d like. But hopefully I can get around to doing my next one soon
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I've never seen such a meticulous foil job. Very impressed and will be trying to copy your technique! Loved the electrical test. I've never really trusted paint and now I feel justified! hahaha thanks Michael another great video.
Thank’s so much for watching Andrew. I have to say I was very surprised that the paint worked as good as it actually did... I might have been extra annoyed with waiting for it to dry because of the dripping from the ceiling so the waiting turned out to be the main problem with it I think... 😄👍🏼...
@@MichaelLagerstedt waiting is the worst part of being a guitar builder, I find.
My Fender AM Performer strat is painted and has aluminium foil all over pickguard from factory. Measured paint resistance - about 0.250 Ohm. Shielding works great, even with single coils. In 2 and 4 positions it's quiet as humbucker.
Pos 2 and 4 ARE humbucking 🤦♂️
the best solution is to use copper foil and then secure the contact between foil pieces by soldering on few places... the resistans will be so low
Great input 👍.
Thanks for watching and sharing 😃🙏🏻
You need to put a wire from your 1/4 inch jack to the foil if you haven't. I saw it in a different video but haven't tried it. Me I'm going to use the paint. Thank you for the video!
Thanks for the tip and for watching 👍🙏🏻😃
Getting a new lamp might be easier.... But seriously, I shielded my bass and my stratocaster with foil about 10 years ago. My downstairs neighbor had a lamp or something that would cause a ridiculous buzz/humming sound that was driving me crazy. After adding copper foil tape the neighbor's light was no longer an issue. I have since moved and after replacing my pots and pickups in my bass a few weeks ago and then running into a head scratching grounding issue. I removed all of the shielding tape, (not a fast and easy task, but it DID fix my grounding issue) And instead of adding some new fresh shielding, I decided to go without shielding and see if it was even needed anymore in my new place. Hard to say the removal of tape made how much of an impact for sure because of the new pots and pickups, but there was not any increased buzzing or humm. And it did sound much better than expected the new pickups.
My advice to anyone thinking about shielding their guitar or bass. Only do it if you absolutely have to. If you hear some faint humm or buzz occasionally, your best move might be to just accept you have chosen to play a noisy instrument, hendrix seemed to do just fine without shielding, maybe you can too? But if you regularly experience a completely disruptive interference and you are powerless to remove whatever is causing the interference and it is completely driving you insane... Then YOU might need to shield your guitar. But I have seen so many people shield their guitar when they really do not need to. Whatever makes you happy. Just know it might not be worth the time or effort uinless you are having some serious issues with interference. But if you still aren't happy after shielding it then maybe you should try jazz flute instead?
Best of luck, hope my 2cents helps someone
Hi Jeff , Thanks for your great perspective. Great points you are making.
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The problem with shielding paint is that it can turn into dust (especially the ones in spray can) and ruin electronics components like pots. So , it's better to put an overspray (clear lacquer) when using it. But, even if it's more complicated to make, copper foil shielding is better.
Hi Fenson
Thanks for a great comment 😀👍🏼. I wasn’t aware of that.
Mic
10 + years touring constantly with shielding paint treated instruments & nothing has turned to dust. Don't use junk shielding paint, prepare your surfaces, apply the paint properly! 👍
@@drainaudio I have Fender Player Strat and I have no idea what paint they used, but it indeed turns into dust, leaving black marks on your fingers. I had a number of guitars before, and there never was such problem with paint shielding. I needed to use some primer before i was able to use foil on that paint. Probably Fender uses sprays, not brushes.
@@martgryfny - cheap guitar, cheap shielding paint.
@@drainaudio, I used rustins shielding paint, best one
I always use shielding paint. But it needs to be stirred thoroughly before applying, it also needs 2 to 3 coats. After that it’s as good as tape - or better actually if the tape glue is not conductive. I also fit ground straps to each cavity and connect them to the components. Perfect shielding every time and no need for the tape.
Hi Lee
Thanks for sharing your experience on this. I just got a new shielding paint I’m trying out for my current build.
Thanks for watching as well 😃🙏🏻
You can also twist the wires on the pickups' twist the wires close together the full length of the pickup wires itself.
Good tip. Thanks 🙏🏻😃
Thank you! I'm quite amazed by the fact that resistance in the shielding doesn't seem to make a difference!
Yes me too… that was very unexpected. Thanks so much Andrea… for watching and taking time to comment 😃🙏🏻
You didn't detail it in the video but I think I briefly saw that the back of the pickguard was taped. I've done a few of these and on Fender-style overlay pickguards I think it helps, so glad you did that. Not important for the back of the control plate as nothing about pots is very sensitive to radio/emi. I've done that though and guess it can't hurt but make sure no bare wires are shorting or grounding to your shielding. But shielding the pickup cavities as much as possible has helped every time for me. On one Squier Mustang it practically silenced the hum. I appreciate the nice neat systematic tape job you did here!
Thanks so much Mark. Great to hear your experience with shielding.
Thanks for taking the time to share that 😃🙏🏻
This is VERY helpful. Thank you!
Great that it could help you 😃👍
Thanks so much for watching 🙏🏻😉
I shield paint the entire cavity, then cover it all and the pickguard with copper foil shielding tape.... Because I can and them products are pretty inexpensive. Copper looks trick, bespoke and works great. Paint is easily crammed into confined spaces that the tape (and my fat fingers) cannot reach.
Hi Kevin. Sounds like a thorough shielding job. 😉
Thanks for watching and sharing 🙏🏻😃
Most of the noise that was gone when you tested the paint, was intercepted by the pickguard. You should try to turn the guitar upside down, so the lamp was behind it. Foil just works better.
I play in different positions in my room, with lamps, chargers, phones etc. In most cases, when you have shielded pickguard and you hold the guitar touching the strings, the noise is acceptable. Electronics is then covered from the front by the pickguard, and by your body from the back. That is why sometimes the noise gets bigger when you don't touch the strings or any other grounded piece of hardware - because the body is not in the circuit. The noise gets to hot parts of the circuit from behind.
What tend to do is to solder pieces of the foil together, despite the fact the adhesive is conductive. Some people said that with the time it can degrade, and pieces of foil gets loose, which can lead to short-circuit. Also couple of times I made foil shielding leaving some lip of the foil all around the cavities, so the shields from pickguard and cavities were touching each other everywhere, leaving no gaps. There was completely no gain in the noise level, but the pickguard stopped to fit correctly and it was a nightmare to remove the foil. Just saying, because some people advice to do it that way, which is unnecessary.
The biggest controversy around shielding guitar with singlecoils is that it affects the tone. The fact that there is less noise is obvious, but there is a ton of theories around the tone. I don't claim anything here, just mentioning the discussion. Even with noiseless singlecoils people claim that the tone is dead ;) It's like there was some sound in the noise :)
Thanks so much for a great and informative comment. Very interesting.
Great to share failures and successes so others can learn
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This video will be very helpful for my next guitar project.
Hi Josée, that’s just great 👍🏼😃
Really impressive and informative video. Your music is fantastic. The first ambient piece is absolutely beautiful. Thank you!
Thank you so much 😃🙏🏻. Really happy you enjoyed the video and the music. Thanks for taking the time to comment 👍😉
I think the reason the paint seemed to work well is because the pickguard was facing the lamp, so it was doing the majority of the shielding for you. It's also important to avoid ground loops in the shielding, so there should be continuous connectivity between all parts of the shielding (conductive adhesive is a must!). Again, beautiful work!
Thanks for great input Ezra 🙏😉
It's impossible to create s ground loop in a passive electric guitar
A monolithic conductive field isn't necessary, however overkill wouldn't be a bad thing and you've illustrated that !👍😏
A little overkill never hurt anyone 😉.
Thanks so much for watching and taking time to comment 🙏🏻😃
I love your editing! Very nice nature images 👏🏻
Thanks so much John 🙏🏻😃
Thank you. Amazing playing also
Thanks so much Sammy, and thanks for watching and taking the time to write a comment 😃🙏🏻
@@MichaelLagerstedtyou're welcome! I have a buzz problem after changing the pickguard on my old yamaha PA112. If I turn the tone knob done I don't have any problem anymore and it's only on neck and middle pickups.
i prefer paint but i seal it with an extra layer of finish. the shielding works equally well with both materials. the reason i don't use copper foil is it is too conductive. things like eddy currents and capacitances come into play, and funny things can happen to higher frequencies. i also avoid shielding pickup cavities if the pickups have a shielding of their own. i also have seen a guitar in which the foil got delaminated and shorted out the neck pickup. the owner said he didn't heat it. paint seems more reliable.
Thanks so much for great input 🙏😃
Super useful for everyone 👌🏼
… and thanks for watching 😉👍🏼
Just gotta say I Love Your Builds. ❤ I thought for sure you were going to fill that hole on the left side cut-out. I to use old wood for some projects.
Thanks so much David. Really appreciate your comments 🙏😉
Dude amazing video
Thanks a lot Spiderman 😉🙏🏻
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
Great video. Before & after was useful, as was the comparison between paint & copper tape.
Thanks so much 😃🙏🏻. I’m happy you enjoyed the video.
Hi Michael, great video and very informative but be careful when using an LED for a continuity check. An LED will illuminate with almost any amount of potential difference, my point is that while the LED might indicate some level of continuity, it might not necessarily be enough to satisfy the needs. Copper foil tape is the way to go but with as wider strips as you can find.
Hey Mart,
Thanks for a great comment. You are right. In my second shielding video I used my measuring device.
ruclips.net/video/0N3R2kYMI-U/видео.html
But it turns out that even if there’s some resistance it still shielding effectively. I’m actually planning to use shielding paint again in my current guitar build .
Thanks so much for watching 😃🙏
What are you talking about? LED? What???
Copper tape sux. I used MG Chemicals Super Shield Silver conductive paint. the resistance helps a lot. eliminates ground loops by adding resistance.
MG Chemicals super shield dries up immediately. i had to put several coats because the wood would absorb the paint too fast.
The paint does work, but you need to do 2 or 3 coats. I prefer the tape, but it can be a pain to work with.
Great input Michael. 😃🙏🏻
Thank you so much for this helpful video. Well done 👍😊
Thanks for watching Frank 😃👍🏼
Michael have loved watching through your series on the novo esque build. Picked up some tips for my own jazzmaster build im doing just now
Hi James
That’s just great 👍🏼😀
Good luck with your build and thanks for watching 😃🙏
Nice video. And I like the music too
Thanks so much 🙏😃
Thanks for the video, the electric noise really drove me insane, when I tried to record :D I guess, I'll buy some copper foil for both my bass and my guitar.
Plus It was necessary to replace the wire from the pickup switch with a shielded wire. Thanks!
Sounds good 👍
Thanks for watching 😃🙏🏻
Came for the shielding video, which is of course meticulous and incredibly useful, and came back for the incredible music as well. Bravo! Out of curiosity, what reverb are you using?
Thanks a lot 😃🙏🏻. Great it’s useful for you.
I don’t know what song you have in mind but I have been using plugins like Exponential Audio R4 by iZotope.
Lately I’ve been using the reverb and delay from Neural DSPs Archetype Rebea. Great plugin 😉👍 … Very ‘plug and play’ and sounds good every time.
Every time i put copper tape in a guitar I slice a finger open- no matter how careful I am- but it works
😂… be careful. Guitar tinkering can be dangerous.
Hey thanks for watching 🙏🏻😃
Superb demo.. I did my last strat in copper and it was great, but I never did an A/B comparison, so was wondering if it was worth the time again, which I can clearly see it is. Many thanks !.
Thanks so much Jason. Happy you enjoyed the information. Thanks for taking the time to comment 😃👍
Thank you! I love the video!
Hey Dan, Thanks so much for watching, really happy you enjoyed it 😃🙏
So the real deal would be full metal cases put on those cavities, metal pickguard, to achive full continuity, zero resistance. Well, let`s go the praticall way :)
I guess you are right 😉 … but metal case pretty unpractical
Thanks for watching 😃🙏🏻
Stellar video! I really appreciate this, because I am in the process of building a resonator guitar and a fretless bass. Keep up the GREAT work! 😀👍
Thanks so much for watching Adam 👍🏼😃🙏
I bought some shielding paint from amazon that was dry in an hour
Great 👍🏼 … I think I put it on too thick… should have done more thin coats as I did in my second build 😉😅
Thanks so much for watching 😃🙏
I only used conductive paints to repair a broken carbon track inside potentiometers. I observed that it reaches full conductivity only when perfectly dry (needs several hours, can be accellerated a bit with a hairdryer).
Hi
I just re-visited this video after having painted my cavities with Crimson Shielding paint. I did 3 full coats on dried out surfaces. I got huge continuity!
So I paid attention in your video that you only had one sparce and thin coat on only part of the cavities. I think had you done 2 or 3 coats you would've had good results.
I am yet to assemble and try the sound.
Will report back then.
Hi Shmuel, Great report. Really good to know 😃👍🏼. Thanks 🙏
Hi! So how it worked?
@@SergeiVlassov
Hi again.
The Strat is absolutely quiet !!
Amazing !! I recommend.
Be patient. Let it dry fully (24 hours) before each coat.
Great video! Thank you so much for making it! You earned a subscription from me.
Thanks so much Michael 😃🙏. Really happy you enjoyed it 👍🏼
Great channel! Thx!
The guitar tones are luscious in this video. Maybe you can shed some light on the signal chain on that track.
I'm getting hum on a new Tele. The hum goes away when I touch the bridge which to me , says it's not grounded properly.
Thanks so much for watching 😃🙏. Really appreciate it.
I don’t know about the hum. There’s always more hum when you’re not touching the guitar but if it’s a lot something might be wrong 😮
Thank you wow this is so helpfuo
Thanks so much for watching 😃🙏🏻
Very helpful video, but it seems odd to me to work on a guitar without removing, or at least loosening, the strings.
Hi Paul
Good point 😅 👍🏼
… and thanks so much 😉
Cool video. Good to see that beautiful guitar again!
Make that control knob plate out of aluminum next!
Yes it looks cool with the metal on the Novos. I might try it on the next one 👍🏼😉
@@MichaelLagerstedt metal or buy a sheet of chrome mirror pickguard material
This channel need more attention
Couldn’t agree more 😉
Thanks for the support man and thanks for watching 🙏👍🏼😃
thanks. helpful
Very helpful video. I think multiple coats of paint are typically recommended, as is a sealing layer as mentioned in the comments below.
Thanks for great input 🙏... benefits everybody 😃👍🏼
Any doubts? Watch this YT vid: Guitar shielding hack: How to KILL THE HUM for FREE!!!.
I have always used aluminum foil (the electrical difference to copper has no practical significance for this use) and any old glue.
For a semi-hollow, I put a plastic bag around the pots and switch with HVAC duct adhesive-backed aluminum around that and a ground wire.
I used the demonically messy liquid once on a buzzy open quad rail 22k p/u and needed three coats, but this was really the only simple solution for this.
Always use a continuity checker for every component to avoid later frustration.
Great tip Rabo, Thanks so much 😃🙏🏻
One note from a shielding newbie, DON'T try and smooth out the copper shielding edges with your thumb, it'll cut you faster and slicker than sh$t.
Uhhh 😣… not a good thing to cut the thumb like that. A lot of blood in there. Thanks for a timely warning 👍😃🙏🏻
I think it takes more time to shield with foil than waiting for the paint to dry. Also, when I use paint I get 0.01 resistance. Maybe the moisture got into your paint and/or it wasn't dry.
Interesting with low resistance. I think the paint simply was too thick. I have on my two latest projects used a little thinner paint and that helped a lot. Still I don’t get that low a resistance. For my current build I got a new shielding paint. I’m exited to see if that makes a difference.
Thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment 😃🙏🏻
@@MichaelLagerstedt On my last 2 guitars, recently done, I went from 3 to 2 coats, mostly for time saving, and each did fine. I don't remember the resistance readings but they were low and I get no noise, and I'm using a monster Koch 4x12 amp that is perfectly clean at full gain. Yeah, when the amp is cranked the neighbors have to evacuate. 🤣
The shielding even in the best mixes degrade within a year. Foil, whether copper or aluminum, work equally as well, from my own experience.
Great point-thanks for that 😃🙏🏻
and thank you for watching 😉
I use paint in the cavity and foil on the underside of the cavity lid...
Sounds good. I think what I did was a little overkill. Could have probably just done the paint at that would have been just fine 😃
Most Guitar manufacturers use paint in their cavities, they also use matched sets of pick ups to help reduce noise.
Pisse fede videoer Michael :) Er selv igang med at bygge min anden guitar :) Er gået videre fra kit til at lave alt (bortset fra halsen) selv :) Fortsæt det gode arbejde :)
Tak Mikkel - glad for at du kan lide videoerne ;)
Held og lykke med projekterne 🥳
You have to overlap the copper tape
You are so right. Didn’t I do that though?
Thanks for watching and for a important reminder 🙏🏻😉😃
Amazing 👏🏼
Ok I may have to try this with my les paul, cos although nothing in my recording room has changed with new equipment or moving things around, my guitar gets a lot of hum if im not touching the strings, so it might be me that has changed
Could maybe also be a grounding issue. Maybe your bridge is not connected to ground.
But testing things and trying different things is definitely a good idea 👍
Thanks so much for watching 🙏🏻😃
@@MichaelLagerstedt its definitely not a grounding issue with the bridge, the hum stops if I touch the strings, so acts like it should, but the hum is a lot for humbuckers, the pickups are very microphonic. Yet my variax standard with single coil, is silent as though its plugged directly into ground.
@@RockG.o.d oh … ok. Well It’s maybe worth trying shielding. Made a big difference in my case 😃👍
@@MichaelLagerstedt well this is strange. So at 4pm my time my les Paul is very quiet again, it’s also quiet with heavy distortion. Nothing has changed in the room I am playing in, my laptop is on, the Marshall on same settings. The hum I get is the same now if I touch the strings or not, well goes ever so slightly quieter, and the static noise when I rub the back is gone. Could it just be a case of static buildup?
@@RockG.o.d sounds really strange… I don’t know that I have the answers to that problem.
Have you seen this video:
ruclips.net/video/t6E0O8UtObU/видео.html
Hope you find a solution 😅
Lovely dude
Thanks man 🙏
why do you shield the pickup cavities? It is designed to....you know...... pick up things :D
I don’t know - I have just seen people do that when shielding… 😜👍
Thanks for watching 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
How the proper shielding process would be if I have a Les Paul; which has the pots, bridge PU, neck PU and switch in separated cavities?? Please help
Shield all cavities and connect them. The guitar in the video has separate cavities as well, just do like I did 👍😉
Copper foil on the back of the pick guard and copper foil or shielding paint in the cavities. If you use paint be aware that paint doesn’t sit well on sharp edges.
Hope this helps
Thanks for watching 😃👍🙏🏻
I found tape does not adhere to conductive paint very well
Oh… interesting… something to consider .
Thanks for the tip and thanks so much for watching 😃🙏🏻
That guitar playing and tone is top notch. Hats off sir. Just wondering what you were using!
Thanks so much Robin, glad you enjoyed it.
What I’m using? Do you mean what guitar or gear?
@@MichaelLagerstedt I meant the gear. 😊
@@robinkhoury5579 oh… yes, I’m playing my “Lagerstedt No.1” the first guitar I build with the gold foil pickups. Going into an Apogee ensemble audio interface. I as you might see on some of the clips I’m using the Neural DSP plugin:Archetype Cory Wong … I think that’s it. For more tone checks see this 😉👍
How I record great guitar tones at home - Strymon Iridium vs Archetype Cory Wong
ruclips.net/video/PBHgFDDPRvc/видео.html
Thanks so much for watching 😃🙏🏻
Nice video 👍🏻
Thanks so much 🙏😃
Great video as always!
Did you connect the shielding to the electronics of the guitar or is it a standalone part of the guitar?
Hey, Thanks 🙏
I didn’t... but I guess the pots actually touch the foil on the back of the pickguard ...
Thank you!
My luthier told me to avoid the paint.
With time it became dust and can make a mess.
Copper tape for the win!
Thanks for a great tip. I will report back if it becomes a mess down the line.
Thanks so much for watching 😃🙏🏻
Further to my previous comment. My Fender Player Strat has a half conductive painted cavity, which seems pointless, I tried sticking copper to it, but it literally wouldn't stick. I will need to PVA or lacquer the factory painted cavity first. Has anyone else had this issue?
Hey Jason, thanks so much for your comment. I have only messed with shielding in my own guitar builds. Hope you find a good solution 😃👍
I'm new to all of this and trying to learn...what is the meter you are using? What kind is it? Is this the same meter that tests the "K" power of pickups?
It’s a multimeter. Just search for that on RUclips to learn more. Pretty cheap and available in most hardware stores I think. 😉👍
Thanks so much for watching 🙏🏻😃
When people wax their pickups, is that also for shielding?
I think it’s mainly to It prevent them from being microphonic, and mot for shielding against 60 cycle hum.
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Enjoyed your video and enjoyed your music. Do I detect a bit of Motown in it?
You might detect right… 😉
thanks so much for watching 🙏😃
why is it fender guitars or other guitar companies don't shield the guitar just like what you did on this video presented, or not even using copper shielding tape?
Hi
Thanks so much for watching 🙏😃, Well I’m not really sure about that. I have tried to get some info on that but I haven’t been able to find a good source. I found this info though:
“Most Strat pickguards will come from the factory with aluminium foil acting as a grounding plate surrounding the switch, tone and volume controls. This is sufficient for a grounding plate but offers little to no shielding and not even close to creating a Faraday cage.”
Let me know if you find more information about that 😉👍🏼
nice job I've been done foil job on my guitar that really works fine but l wonder how is the paint works thanks again
Hi Mark
Thanks so much 🙏. ... and thanks for watching 😀
Wait, was the A/B the paint vs the shield with paint?
Tape should have been first, Then remove it to contrast the paint vs tape alone
Hey, thanks so much for watching and commenting 😃🙏🏻.
You are right that I could have tested with only foil first. But my expectation was that foil would be better than paint. So the question was if I could see any improvement from paint to foil. Would the shielding be any better after putting foil in there? And the answer was no! Paint works just as well and it’s more convenient.
In my second shielding test :
ruclips.net/video/0N3R2kYMI-U/видео.html
… I discovered that it doesn’t matter that there’s a resistance in paint as long as there is a currant flowing it works just as well
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@@MichaelLagerstedt I like your methodology here. I'd do it exactly as you did. I wouldn't want to remove the foil. Everybody can do his own variations.
I was wondering what pickups you had installed in the guitar? Very nice tone.
They are Lollar Gold Foil pickups.
Thanks for watching 😃🙏🏻
I saw that some noise is remaining after finish that shelding. If I wanna get 0 percentage of noise what should to do?
Is there any way to get 0 percentag off noice without having a humbucker pickup?
Use a noise gate pedal that cuts out the noise when you’re not playing. Other than that you can’t get a high gain sound and 0% noise. The noise is a important part of a lot of guitar tones.
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻😃
and you wouldn't paint under the pick guard
Thanks for great input 🙏🏻😃
… and for watching
We need as much help as we can get 😉
Great job, as usual...can you tell me the brand of the pickups mounted on your Guitar( and the brand of the guitar ,also) ,please?
Hi Riccardo, Thanks so much for watching 🙏😃. The brand of the pickups are Lollar gold foil.
ruclips.net/video/-ICsqNmhFs4/видео.html
I build the guitar myself trying to learn from what Novo guitars are doing. Here’s why 😉: ruclips.net/video/GO2xIj62_3U/видео.html
Shielding? Yes! Shielded my Les Paul and its quite AF. And ofc Shield with Foil. Foil can be removed. Paint doesnt.
And dear god. If you decide to Paint. Please use maskingtape ontop of the guitar. You need to paint right to the edge to establish the
Faraday cage with the cover and that way you dont ruin your guitar with paint.
Ohh and in addition you should connect the shielding to your ground of the guitar to get maximum effect.
Thanks Dude. Great comment 😃👍
I will be doing both baby!!! hahah
Yes, that was a little overkill - on my second build I actually used paint watered down a little bit... that worked great 👍🏼😉
Thanks so much for watching 😃🙏
I'be tried both...for me, foil sounds suck. I made different on my sound, I prefer paint.
Hi Amar, great input, thanks so much for watching 🙏🏻😃
Shielded wire does the most.
Good point… thanks so much for watching 🙏🏻😃
And also copper or aluminium foil is bettwr than thw other?
I haven’t tried alu foil but people say it’s just as good.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting 🙏🏻😃
@@MichaelLagerstedt pleasure to watch your videos Michael, just finish shielding my tele... thankz again!
Is that a Teisco/Kawai guitar?
No it’s my own build after a Novo Serus J
Check out my build right here and thanks so much for watching 😉🙏🏻:
ruclips.net/p/PLMU4eqnUeCptGblPEB-_M_RxyWVBaBvYF
Wow what a fantastic test! Did you wired shielding to the output jack or pots?
Thanks so much 😃🙏🏻. No I had a ground wire going from volume pot case to the vibrato but not to the shielding. But I did that in my latest Tele project
@@MichaelLagerstedt thank you!
hi I want to put a mini battery amp in a.guitar but it doesn't work even in a seperate box you get a horrible noise I wonder if I paint inside the guitar and the amp box it would mean I can finally have a battery amp in my guitar without the pickup and amp having an argument lol
Wow Paul … that’s a problem I can’t rap my head around - I guess you would have to test the different possibilities-let me know what the test results are 😉👍🏼
@@MichaelLagerstedt I will I know you can put an amp in a guitar just no idea without the pickup and amp so close together and getting the awful nose maybe someone can help
Three coats at least. One coat not enough.
Hey John
Thanks so much for watching and taking time to comment 😃👍🙏🏻
Work with p90 pickup?
Absolutely 😉👍
Very informative, what's the title of the background music from the start up to @3:20?
Thanks so much Paolo.😃🙏
The song has no name… just sometimes I made for this video - 😉
@@MichaelLagerstedt beautiful man, I think you should make it into a song, could be for an instrumental album.
Thanks Paolo - really appreciate it… yeah maybe I should 😉👍🏼
No shielding: 0:32
Paint: 5:00
Copper tape: 9:18
Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment 😃🙏🏻
@@MichaelLagerstedt thanks for the video and tips!
The paint is very expensive
Good point. I think it’s 20£ for 50ml… that’s enough for quite a few guitars. Foil is definitely cheaper.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting Mark. 🙏🏻😃
Foil💯🎸👍
Thanks for watching 😃🙏🏻
Can anyone answer this? Does the copper tape need to have a ground wire soldered to it and connected to the ground of the jack? Thanks
It shouldn’t be necessary. In my experience you just need continuity between top and bottom of the “cage” (faraday cage)to stop the noise 👍😃
@@MichaelLagerstedt Thank you Michael. I took my new bass guitar back to the store because I was hearing what you demonstrated in your video. The manager played my bass through one of their amps & it was dead quiet. So he said that it could be my power supply to the home or interference from other things plugged in. I’m going to try this out. The only other thing it could be is a bad amp which is new as well. I didn’t think to take the amp with me to the store along with the guitar because I thought it had something to do with the guitars wiring