I’m ready to make the leap to an EV and this an Enyaq and a model Y are on my shortlist. However, convincing my wife will be a different matter and I think the Model Y would be a step too far for her. Value for money, the Scenic appears best tbh.
@@davel9359 it’s a fantastic car Dave. Model Y long range, range, for Model 3 RWD standard range money. It’s also less than half to insure. Having had Tesla’s for 6 years nearly I’m very surprised at how good Renault now is at making EVs. Thanks for watching. Full detailed real owner review coming soon.
I'd have the Renault as it's better looking, better built and better infotainment screens / physical buttons. I'm currently looking at one of these to replace the Volvo XC40 Recharge. The extra range on the Renault will be a blessing! I've never used a Tesla supercharger with a non Tesla. What was the process and did you have to have an adapter?
@@anonymouspdg6121 you just need the usual Tesla App, credit card details in it, plug the car in, and select the charge point in the Tesla app and it gets going. So slightly more complex than just plugging in but not much.
Forums and FB groups full of new owners not happy with the range in current cold spell. A few flaws with sinking front seats and charging issues which Renault are addressing via a new update, i would still have it against a Tesla though any day but my preference would be the Megane as a little more efficient and more of a sleek ride than the higher bulky SUV feeling of the Scenic but if you have kids and want more space in the back and a few extra miles then Scenic not the worst choice to go for.
Get in! A video on the techno version! I ordered the techno version but test drove the iconic, but happy I’m able to finally find a video on one, can’t wait for mine to arrive! I’ve gone for flame red with the black roof.
Cracking video now I presently have a Hyundai Ioniq hybrid and been considering the Scenic but will only be using public charging as I stay in a flat and have been convinced to go for it ,I would go for the middle trim as I love my heated seats thank you for this
@@AlanMacdonald-on6nd yes the only difference with the next one up (Techno) is larger wheels and internal styling (blue carpets etc). Thanks for watching and commenting Alan.
Fantastic RUclips video, we have just purchased the Alpine version, first 100 miles completed. We have subscribed, looking forward to watching your other vids & more Renault Scenic content too. Thank you 🌟🧡👍
Thank you for this video, We pick our Alpine up next week. Excited and nervous at the same time. But the range video really helped. My only concern is charging . HOME charges to be installed ASAP. Keep on doing the videos Really helpful.
Just subscribed. Really interested in this car I have the Nissan Ariya at the moment but will be changing to either this or a Tesla Y. Great video, looking forward to your full review matey 👍
Thanks for the video, new to your channel. I have the Polestar 2 with Google maps and I find it very pessimistic but I'd rather that than too optimistic. Can be out by as much as 20% on a long journey.
@@CoxJul thanks for watching, full review will be coming soon, want to really consider car first, it will be a really detailed review, maybe half an hour dealing with everything,
I think it's Great family car, very spacious, excellent range, good looks, what's not to like? As you said the recharge speed was suprisingly poor, I wonder if this was down to the Tesla charger?
Think the charging curve is poor. I’m hoping they can improve in software maybe. One thing I noticed- it’s totally silent when fast charging whereas Teslas have high speed fans cooling the system. One of the few downsides to the car, otherwise I think it’s superb. I will be doing a full review and Tesla comparison. Will be totally honest but I need a few more weeks with the car yet.
I doubt it’s the camera itself (as in lens resolution) because even a £10 webcam has a better resolution. Suspect it may be the way the bitrate is dealt with in the computers etc, but who knows. It is odd.
@@gerry5134 If it is the camera itself someone may bring out an upgrade as it looks easy to unscrew and get access to under the boot lip just screwed in.
I’ve just got some figures from Gridserve after talking to them this morning, for a 2 year lease from March next year. Got to decide whether to have Techno in the colour I want, or Alpine esprit in a standard colour. Both the same price (well actually Alpine is £2.50 more per month) Really can’t decide which way to go.
For £2.50 I’d maybe go Alpine but not sure because of reduced range. I saw yesterday you could get Techno long range for £400 a month, 3 down (£1200) 10,000 a year miles yesterday- great deal it’s dropped £30 a month. Make sure you are shopping around.
@ Gridserve are offering me £304.50 and £307 over with 12 months upfront and 5k a year. Because I’m retired I only average 4k anyway. Also using a bit of man maths, selling my current Zoe will cover that upfront plus about a year of payments. (At least that’s how I’m going to justify it to the missus) After 2yrs if I still like it, I’ll probably look out for a used one, I suspect there’ll be plenty of ex lease ones on the market at that point, as l think it’ll be hugely popular because of its range.
Would love to see what the video is like when your charging, watch a film or youtube? Also when you charged it how much did it cost? Love the video by the way.
@@suealder2884 you can side load Netflix via USB I understand as it isn’t on the Android Auto Store. It has something called Vivaldi browser I’ve used to sign into RUclips and watch that. Screen size is the width of the screen so with it being portrait it doesn’t fill the entire screen but it’s decent.
Thanks for doing this informative range video, I am considering this car and the Megane E Tech, which I know has a much shorter range but is very similar in many ways, tech, motor etc, the extra range of the Scenic is appealing for occasional long trips, but is not a top priority, have you done a test drive in the Megane, if so how did it compare,? I'm looking forward to your full review of the car.
Haven’t done the Megane, nice car, similar tech. For me the selling point of this car is the huge battery, 87 kWh is by far the best bang for the buck. I never had any interest in a French car, I’m still surprised at what a great car Renault have made here. Yes give me a couple of weeks for the full review, I want to live with the car for a couple of weeks. Make sure you subscribe and press the bell as well and you’ll be alerted then when it’s up. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the reply. I have already subscribed, your opinion on the car will be very much valued and appreciated, I like your straight forward and genuine approach, an honest everyman real world evaluation is what most people want rather than that of the usual 'professional' reviews.
Probably about right in freezing temps. My Tesla dropped a good 20% in freezing temps with a heat pump. I’ve got a cold weather test video coming any day now.
just got the alpine and not happy at all, put it on charge and the battery is saying 100% but the range is only going up to about 240 at most cant understand at all
The range isn’t going up to anything, that’s a poor ‘guessometer’. You have 87kWh battery. Look at the percentage and consumption not the guessometer. It is colder so you will get less. Yesterday I got 280 ish miles at 65 mph all motorway- colder weather video coming. Go watch my Tesla range tests in warm and cold. And ignore the guessometer.
@@harry7384 yes the steering wheel I noticed it was capacitive, was going to mention that in my upcoming review. Much better than having to tug it constantly.
So you have to drive at 60 to get a decent range? A 280 mile journey at 70 takes 4 hours, at 60 4hr40 plus you have to hang around for an hour waiting to charge? A 4 hour journey in a fossil burner suddenly adds almost 50% to the journey time. Seems like we're going back to horse and carriage times for travelling across the UK. It's not progress. That said, I have to replace my company car in 4 months time and the Scenic is at the top of my list. This was just the review I was looking for, after watching about 20 videos on the Scenic. Thanks.
@@WillScott73 Hi, yes I didn’t have to charge en route it was because I was stopping anyway. I didn’t charge coming back (well just whilst I had breakfast that morning topping up the battery). This is an unusual route in that there’s virtually no routes where you could travel this distance in a day without encountering lots of slow traffic. In fact it will be rare for anyone to do that distance and average 60mph even if they go 80 when they can I suspect. I’m doing another test tomorrow, down to Milton Keynes and back. In my Tesla I might ‘just’ have made it in perfect conditions but usually had to charge briefly. This will be more typical of driving in the U.K.- traffic cameras average speed on the M1, jams etc. I am going to set it to 65 and see how we go. Should do it, 280 miles there and back. Stay tuned. Also you would never normally charge to 100%. You normally would charge to 80% max, and that last 20% takes a long time. So you would not normally stop so long to charge. In normal circumstances I’d likely have charged only for the time needed to eat my lunch, then set off again. You also save a lot of time generally with an EV never going to a petrol station at home. The ‘I’ll have to go out and get some petrol’ runs are not missed. I’ve had an EV for 6 years and much prefer it, as most (87%) would not go back to ICE.
I think it was about 47 pence per kWh at both as I went off peak. Watch out though I hear Tesla have really bunged up fees at some locations to 80+ pence for non Tesla.
Great video, but I'm a bit confused. You are doing your kW conversion based on a 87KW battery, but the Scenic E-Tech Techno version is a 60KW battery with a 260m range?. The Alpine and Iconic have an 87KW battery with a 379m range. My Scenic Alpine in Matt Shadow Grey has just arrived in the UK, and I'm awaiting delivery in the next 10 days. I ordered it with the boot floor and a 3 point plug EV hone charger!. Can you believe that a £45,000 car does not come with electric seats?.
@@baddrivinginglasgow2637 no Techno is just a trim level. This is the long range car. In fact, apart from bigger wheels and some trim difference (blue carpets, seat material, dashboard material, door insert) the Techno and Alpine are exactly the same car in every way. There will be hardly any short range versions (60KW) of this car sold, nearly all will be the long range. Thanks for watching.
Scenic easily. Aside from the nicer interior, tech and the fact it’s battery, the ride is so much better. Sportage very bouncy, Scenic chassis seems just right.
could you mute yourself saying hey google in future videos so my own system doesn't answer your questions whilst i'm watching please. other than that, good video, i just ordered a black Alpine scenic to replace my Kona EV, should be here tail end of the year, looking forward to it
I don’t think it’s fair to say Tesla needs to change the chargers to suit other car models. Maybe other manufacturers should put the charge port in the right place. I know you’re trying to convince yourself that the Renault can compete with the efficiency of a Tesla driving at proper motorway speeds but it can’t.
Not really cars have the ports all over, and Tesla has opened up chargers to these cars, but have bump stops way off the chargers, and very short leads (which as a 6 year Tesla owner, new S and new 3 were often verging on too short even for Tesla). I’m not trying to convince myself of anything, I’m doing tests like I did in my 3. The car won’t be as efficient as a 3, for obvious reasons, there’s not that much difference with a Y I don’t think. The huge battery is fantastic though because it’s the same to buy as a Model 3 RWD and I can get about 50 -75 more miles in the same conditions in a bigger more practical car. That really matters to me because I am not stopping to charge nearly as much, less range anxiety and much cheaper. Charging on the go is expensive, even on Tesla chargers. Tesla’s are excellent cars no doubt, I’m not knocking them, I am a big fan and advocate. However, the lineup is aging and the value isn’t fantastic. Thanks for watching, full review coming soon where I’ll go into some detail about how it compares in my view to Tesla. I am genuinely very impressed with the Scenic but there are areas of improvement that could be easily made. I used to be quite blinkered, Tesla was the only decent EV. Up until a year ago I would not have bought a non Tesla. But now they have serious competition.
What do you think of the range? Is this car good value for the £40k. Or would you rather have a Tesla? Post your thoughts below.
I’m ready to make the leap to an EV and this an Enyaq and a model Y are on my shortlist. However, convincing my wife will be a different matter and I think the Model Y would be a step too far for her. Value for money, the Scenic appears best tbh.
@@davel9359 it’s a fantastic car Dave. Model Y long range, range, for Model 3 RWD standard range money. It’s also less than half to insure. Having had Tesla’s for 6 years nearly I’m very surprised at how good Renault now is at making EVs. Thanks for watching. Full detailed real owner review coming soon.
I'd have the Renault as it's better looking, better built and better infotainment screens / physical buttons. I'm currently looking at one of these to replace the Volvo XC40 Recharge. The extra range on the Renault will be a blessing!
I've never used a Tesla supercharger with a non Tesla. What was the process and did you have to have an adapter?
@@anonymouspdg6121 you just need the usual Tesla App, credit card details in it, plug the car in, and select the charge point in the Tesla app and it gets going. So slightly more complex than just plugging in but not much.
Forums and FB groups full of new owners not happy with the range in current cold spell. A few flaws with sinking front seats and charging issues which Renault are addressing via a new update, i would still have it against a Tesla though any day but my preference would be the Megane as a little more efficient and more of a sleek ride than the higher bulky SUV feeling of the Scenic but if you have kids and want more space in the back and a few extra miles then Scenic not the worst choice to go for.
Get in! A video on the techno version! I ordered the techno version but test drove the iconic, but happy I’m able to finally find a video on one, can’t wait for mine to arrive! I’ve gone for flame red with the black roof.
Techno is great Shaun, it’s fully loaded. Full review coming in a few weeks. Thanks for watching.
Nice video! I’ve also ordered a techno, fully loaded. Flame red.
@@matsvanzelm7220 same as mine. Full detailed review coming soon.
I've ordered a techno in white, I studied the difference between it and the alpine (which is what I tested) and it was a no brainer!
@@robwood32able that’s what I test drove as well, I couldn’t justifiably go for either of the other two levels of trim.
Cracking video now I presently have a Hyundai Ioniq hybrid and been considering the Scenic but will only be using public charging as I stay in a flat and have been convinced to go for it ,I would go for the middle trim as I love my heated seats thank you for this
@@AlanMacdonald-on6nd cheers Alan. This one has heated seats.
@wakeywarrior oh didn't think base had it thanks
@@AlanMacdonald-on6nd yes the only difference with the next one up (Techno) is larger wheels and internal styling (blue carpets etc). Thanks for watching and commenting Alan.
Fantastic RUclips video, we have just purchased the Alpine version, first 100 miles completed. We have subscribed, looking forward to watching your other vids & more Renault Scenic content too. Thank you 🌟🧡👍
Thanks for the sub- more Scenic content coming.
Excellent, well made video, Paul. Informative and enjoyable too. The techno wheels are the best looking in the range. Tic John.
Thanks John much appreciated.
Thank you for this video, We pick our Alpine up next week. Excited and nervous at the same time. But the range video really helped.
My only concern is charging . HOME charges to be installed ASAP. Keep on doing the videos Really helpful.
@@AndiFleming-b2i cheers Andi glad it helped. Full review coming soon.
Just subscribed. Really interested in this car I have the Nissan Ariya at the moment but will be changing to either this or a Tesla Y.
Great video, looking forward to your full review matey 👍
Thanks John. Give me a few weeks to really test the car. I’ll give an honest review and pluses and minus vs Tesla.
Great review. I’m awaiting for my iconic, arrives within a few weeks.
@@rsgworld cheers I’m sure you won’t be disappointed.
Did it arrive. My one is coming 9.12.2024, but I wanted the EV6
@ no, not yet! Can’t wait now 😅 They said it will be here around December. I can imagine they are coming together on the lorries.
Thanks for the video, new to your channel. I have the Polestar 2 with Google maps and I find it very pessimistic but I'd rather that than too optimistic. Can be out by as much as 20% on a long journey.
Cheers David. Yes think it’s an issue with Google maps could be better.
Pleased to see an owner review... It's on my list...
@@CoxJul thanks for watching, full review will be coming soon, want to really consider car first, it will be a really detailed review, maybe half an hour dealing with everything,
I think it's Great family car, very spacious, excellent range, good looks, what's not to like?
As you said the recharge speed was suprisingly poor, I wonder if this was down to the Tesla charger?
Think the charging curve is poor. I’m hoping they can improve in software maybe. One thing I noticed- it’s totally silent when fast charging whereas Teslas have high speed fans cooling the system.
One of the few downsides to the car, otherwise I think it’s superb. I will be doing a full review and Tesla comparison. Will be totally honest but I need a few more weeks with the car yet.
Shouldn't be difficult to replace the reversing camera for a better one 😊
I doubt it’s the camera itself (as in lens resolution) because even a £10 webcam has a better resolution. Suspect it may be the way the bitrate is dealt with in the computers etc, but who knows. It is odd.
@@wakeywarrior That is odd, you'd think they would have made the effort to get that sorted out.
@@gerry5134 If it is the camera itself someone may bring out an upgrade as it looks easy to unscrew and get access to under the boot lip just screwed in.
I’ve just got some figures from Gridserve after talking to them this morning, for a 2 year lease from March next year.
Got to decide whether to have Techno in the colour I want, or Alpine esprit in a standard colour. Both the same price (well actually Alpine is £2.50 more per month)
Really can’t decide which way to go.
For £2.50 I’d maybe go Alpine but not sure because of reduced range.
I saw yesterday you could get Techno long range for £400 a month, 3 down (£1200) 10,000 a year miles yesterday- great deal it’s dropped £30 a month. Make sure you are shopping around.
@ Gridserve are offering me £304.50 and £307 over with 12 months upfront and 5k a year.
Because I’m retired I only average 4k anyway. Also using a bit of man maths, selling my current Zoe will cover that upfront plus about a year of payments. (At least that’s how I’m going to justify it to the missus) After 2yrs if I still like it, I’ll probably look out for a used one, I suspect there’ll be plenty of ex lease ones on the market at that point, as l think it’ll be hugely popular because of its range.
Would love to see what the video is like when your charging, watch a film or youtube? Also when you charged it how much did it cost? Love the video by the way.
Thanks for the kind comment. Do you mean you’d like to see what a video playing looks like?
@ yes, that’s what I meant, just reading it back now ( my last comment that is) and realise it wasn’t clear.
@@suealder2884 you can side load Netflix via USB I understand as it isn’t on the Android Auto Store. It has something called Vivaldi browser I’ve used to sign into RUclips and watch that. Screen size is the width of the screen so with it being portrait it doesn’t fill the entire screen but it’s decent.
Thanks for doing this informative range video, I am considering this car and the Megane E Tech, which I know has a much shorter range but is very similar in many ways, tech, motor etc, the extra range of the Scenic is appealing for occasional long trips, but is not a top priority, have you done a test drive in the Megane, if so how did it compare,? I'm looking forward to your full review of the car.
Haven’t done the Megane, nice car, similar tech. For me the selling point of this car is the huge battery, 87 kWh is by far the best bang for the buck. I never had any interest in a French car, I’m still surprised at what a great car Renault have made here. Yes give me a couple of weeks for the full review, I want to live with the car for a couple of weeks. Make sure you subscribe and press the bell as well and you’ll be alerted then when it’s up. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the reply. I have already subscribed, your opinion on the car will be very much valued and appreciated, I like your straight forward and genuine approach, an honest everyman real world evaluation is what most people want rather than that of the usual 'professional' reviews.
@@deansawyer3575 cheers Dean I’ll try to do a review in a few weeks.
Under "my driving" if you touch energy you will see the consuption of heating AC and other things to.
I haven’t seen that thanks will look.
How do you get it to announce the speed cameras?
Mine just did it, do you have latest google maps?
seem to only get about 260m from mine with the big battery. granted its freezing but, heat pump
Probably about right in freezing temps. My Tesla dropped a good 20% in freezing temps with a heat pump. I’ve got a cold weather test video coming any day now.
Great video, at last a real would test rather than what the brochure says.
Cheers JB!
Can you get an extension cable made up?
@@richardnunn3205 what for to charge from a normal plug socket ?
just got the alpine and not happy at all, put it on charge and the battery is saying 100% but the range is only going up to about 240 at most cant understand at all
The range isn’t going up to anything, that’s a poor ‘guessometer’. You have 87kWh battery. Look at the percentage and consumption not the guessometer. It is colder so you will get less. Yesterday I got 280 ish miles at 65 mph all motorway- colder weather video coming. Go watch my Tesla range tests in warm and cold. And ignore the guessometer.
Capacitive steering wheel & better ADAS for the renault !
@@harry7384 yes the steering wheel I noticed it was capacitive, was going to mention that in my upcoming review. Much better than having to tug it constantly.
So you have to drive at 60 to get a decent range? A 280 mile journey at 70 takes 4 hours, at 60 4hr40 plus you have to hang around for an hour waiting to charge? A 4 hour journey in a fossil burner suddenly adds almost 50% to the journey time.
Seems like we're going back to horse and carriage times for travelling across the UK. It's not progress.
That said, I have to replace my company car in 4 months time and the Scenic is at the top of my list.
This was just the review I was looking for, after watching about 20 videos on the Scenic. Thanks.
@@WillScott73 Hi, yes I didn’t have to charge en route it was because I was stopping anyway. I didn’t charge coming back (well just whilst I had breakfast that morning topping up the battery).
This is an unusual route in that there’s virtually no routes where you could travel this distance in a day without encountering lots of slow traffic. In fact it will be rare for anyone to do that distance and average 60mph even if they go 80 when they can I suspect.
I’m doing another test tomorrow, down to Milton Keynes and back. In my Tesla I might ‘just’ have made it in perfect conditions but usually had to charge briefly. This will be more typical of driving in the U.K.- traffic cameras average speed on the M1, jams etc. I am going to set it to 65 and see how we go. Should do it, 280 miles there and back. Stay tuned.
Also you would never normally charge to 100%. You normally would charge to 80% max, and that last 20% takes a long time. So you would not normally stop so long to charge. In normal circumstances I’d likely have charged only for the time needed to eat my lunch, then set off again.
You also save a lot of time generally with an EV never going to a petrol station at home. The ‘I’ll have to go out and get some petrol’ runs are not missed. I’ve had an EV for 6 years and much prefer it, as most (87%) would not go back to ICE.
How much did it cost to charge from the tesla charger
I think it was about 47 pence per kWh at both as I went off peak. Watch out though I hear Tesla have really bunged up fees at some locations to 80+ pence for non Tesla.
@@wakeywarriorThis would be non subscription?
@ yes
Miles? Kilometers please
@@jeanpierredevos3137 we are UK so everything is miles.
Can you review EV6
I don’t have access to one unfortunately if Kia want to send me one I’ll happily do it!
Great video, but I'm a bit confused. You are doing your kW conversion based on a 87KW battery, but the Scenic E-Tech Techno version is a 60KW battery with a 260m range?.
The Alpine and Iconic have an 87KW battery with a 379m range.
My Scenic Alpine in Matt Shadow Grey has just arrived in the UK, and I'm awaiting delivery in the next 10 days.
I ordered it with the boot floor and a 3 point plug EV hone charger!.
Can you believe that a £45,000 car does not come with electric seats?.
@@baddrivinginglasgow2637 no Techno is just a trim level. This is the long range car. In fact, apart from bigger wheels and some trim difference (blue carpets, seat material, dashboard material, door insert) the Techno and Alpine are exactly the same car in every way.
There will be hardly any short range versions (60KW) of this car sold, nearly all will be the long range.
Thanks for watching.
The iconic had the electric seats, which costs £45,595.
Which you prefer out of the scenic and sportage?
Scenic easily. Aside from the nicer interior, tech and the fact it’s battery, the ride is so much better. Sportage very bouncy, Scenic chassis seems just right.
@@wakeywarrior thanks great video .all the best
@@dirtydeeds2012 cheers. I’m going to be doing a big ‘real owner ex Tesla driver’ review -coming soon.
Does the car come with data built in or do you have to pay for a sim? And if a sim how much is it? Thank you
could you mute yourself saying hey google in future videos so my own system doesn't answer your questions whilst i'm watching please. other than that, good video, i just ordered a black Alpine scenic to replace my Kona EV, should be here tail end of the year, looking forward to it
Ha hadn’t thought of that Grant - I’ll mute it next time😂
I don’t think it’s fair to say Tesla needs to change the chargers to suit other car models. Maybe other manufacturers should put the charge port in the right place. I know you’re trying to convince yourself that the Renault can compete with the efficiency of a Tesla driving at proper motorway speeds but it can’t.
Not really cars have the ports all over, and Tesla has opened up chargers to these cars, but have bump stops way off the chargers, and very short leads (which as a 6 year Tesla owner, new S and new 3 were often verging on too short even for Tesla).
I’m not trying to convince myself of anything, I’m doing tests like I did in my 3. The car won’t be as efficient as a 3, for obvious reasons, there’s not that much difference with a Y I don’t think. The huge battery is fantastic though because it’s the same to buy as a Model 3 RWD and I can get about 50 -75 more miles in the same conditions in a bigger more practical car. That really matters to me because I am not stopping to charge nearly as much, less range anxiety and much cheaper. Charging on the go is expensive, even on Tesla chargers.
Tesla’s are excellent cars no doubt, I’m not knocking them, I am a big fan and advocate. However, the lineup is aging and the value isn’t fantastic.
Thanks for watching, full review coming soon where I’ll go into some detail about how it compares in my view to Tesla. I am genuinely very impressed with the Scenic but there are areas of improvement that could be easily made. I used to be quite blinkered, Tesla was the only decent EV. Up until a year ago I would not have bought a non Tesla. But now they have serious competition.