Payday 2: Update 236 Gives Us The AWPer Hand At Last!
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
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So, the obvious elephant in the room is the Deimos changes. The problem with this weapon, in my opinion, is that it statistically power creeps a lot of the alternatives, even without penetration, which is frustrating. My suggestion would have been to nerf its numbers and keep the penetration. That way the new weapon would be a side grade with interesting mechanics, instead of an outright upgrade with very little unique to it. Ah well, can't win them all!
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INCOMING: Can you beat Payday 2 as the Sniper?
well you need the piss jar first
can you beat payday 2 as a terrorist
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Congrats on your OVERKILL partnership, you've earned it!
I think the horror references withe Campbell 74 are cool like the Karloff barrel being named after Boris Karloff and the lmg it's self is named after Bruce Campbell
Finally, an opportunity to feel like a Pro AWPer playing against a lobby of silvers.
I'm so proud of your Partnership man
It genuinely makes me glad as a long time viewer
Appreciate it!
It annoys me so much how the Demios ammo counter for the exclusive set goes up to 8 yet it can only hold 5 shells max, definitely had a last-minute rebalance there.
I think they fixed it in 236.1
@@ciphergacha9100 *sigh of relief*
@@NovaAge yep, now the mag size and amount of lights are the same, it doesn’t look like shit now
While I haven't played with the DLC yet, I think two balance changes I would make is increasing the fire rate of the Campbell LMG to 2000 when equipped with the exclusive set, and make the Deimose shotgun penetrate through only one enemy and not through walls.
Think the Campbell buff will increase the practicality of the exclusive set without making the other two Miniguns feel outclassed with their higher damage or fire rate. The Deimose penetrating through walls like a 5/7 sounds a bit too overpowered and hurts ammunition types like Flechette and AP slugs, but not have any penetration doesn't give much for the weapon to stand on it's own. Think penetrating through at least one enemy can help it be used as a crowd control kind of weapon without it making the previously mentioned ammo types useless to use. Not sure if it should penetrate through shields though, maybe it could but it takes more damage to kill them through shields to balance it.
Tbf it's also OVK's fault for making flechette and AP slugs so hard to build for. Especially AP slugs, I literally never use them, I barely ever use flechette except for stealth to deal with murky guards
@@BennyHyena honestly ap isn't that hard to build for as long as your not going for a serious play build since I have done sniper shotguns in the past. Deimos can get up to 96 accuracy.
I just looked at the ammo pickup of the Campbell using the more weapon stats mod and I did not expect to see a jump from 10.34-14.18 without the set upto 28.35- 53.87 with the set equipped.
@@BennyHyena flechette is actually extremely good with most shotguns since it gives 15 more meters before damage fall off, with the new shotty you can still 1 shot heavies with flechette as long you have overkill activated
If it wasn't obvious before, it's obvious now that kknowley plays ALOT of TF2 and I like it
Congratulations! About time to officially be part of the overkill friend list
Congrats on the partnership! The lore series is what first got me into your content, back in 2020, but it’s stuff like the incredibly entertaining challenge runs that have kept me invested. 100% deserved with the partnership.
Love to see it
Glad to see the payday 2 steam page also gave a shout out to you and other pd2 content creators
I’ve never actually used flamethrowers for dps but instead for neutralizing enemies in clusters in bursts that grenade launchers don’t allow, so being able to rock an lmg like this will be absolutely insane.
Short swap time and another secondary.
Grats on the Overkill Partnership, you've definitely deserved it for a long time with how much effort you put into your work!
The AWP is just a more convenient thanatos.
I like that, even if makes the Thanatos even less likely to be used by most people, probably.
Congratulations on becoming an overkill partner, was happy to see your name on the list of creators in steam.
I was surprised but pleased when I saw the announcement and your name popped up. A partnership with the company whose game you've covered for so long is great. Congrats.
Congrats on the partnership dude!! you have always been my go to for payday, even not playing anymore i always come back so its lovely to see
as you've mentioned before when reviewing Hostile Takeover, it feels like Ovkill are experimenting for PAYDAY 3, and it feels really obvious this update
I really hope that pd3 will have synced updates between pc and console bc it kind of sucks to miss out on cool stuff like this
Hopefully with the change to Unreal Engine for PD3, update parity will be much easier.
@@SnackToxin in theory it should, as platform homogeneity is easier on UE compared to OVERKILL's Diesel Engine (which is basically held up by tape, cheap glue and a crow strapped to the thing)
It will
Kinda a reason why I just jumped to the steam deck lol payday 2 rocks on handheld with all synced updates
I love the usage of the CSGO sounds and even one of the best CSGO SAS voicelines in the trailer.
AND it uses the OG awp sound
Feels weird the the ammo counter shows more than five shells, but you can't get to seven shells with the set equipped.
Mr. TheKnowley, I have a daring challenge run proposal for you: beat career mode with the payday gang's favorite gear by using A.I. to determine what that would be. (example: roll a wheel to pick a character, whatever chatacter it lands on, use chatgtp to ask them questions that'll determine your build like, if you roll dallas, and you ask him favorite weapon, and he says akimbo judge shotgun primary and commando rocket launcher secondary, then you'd have to be rocking those weapons for 20 levels or so. i know i would love to see this video as it would leave for a wild rild of a career mode while exploring weapons that usually nobody would touch. hope this makes it into a video! ( good luck!)
When I saw you were a partner on the post, I knew you got it and deserved it. Congrats.
Great to hear that you're a partner now! I'm glad OVK are showing you some love
I can't believe they added the Huo Long Heater just to make a Heavy run easier. Truly the partner bias is already paying off, smhhh...
Haha, this has just hit me!
For anyone wondering its not "turnback" scope as auto captions say, its Tuunbaq Scope
It is the Arctic Warfare Police, It chambers in 7.62x51mm. While the Arctic Warfare Magnum chambers in 8.6×70 mm
I can appreciate adding new mechanics and niches for DLC weapons, but when they add these arbitrary damage categories for the AWP it kinda just feels like they're throwing stuff at the wall to make it feel different.
Let the Deimos Shotgun stay that way, the slugs are actually really fun to play.
Dude, I've been waiting for SO LONG for KAC Chainsaw to be added into the game since it's my favorite LMG.
Can you beat Payday 2 as a CT?
Weapons: if it's in csgo (CT side) its in your hands
Melee: combat knife
Grenades:frags, incendiaries, flashes
If you fail a heist you must buy your weapons that you used again, along with their modifications
You'd have plenty of powerful, reliable, all-round good weapons, but it would be risky to use them
That does seem like a good idea, untill you realize that the cost of the weapons is nothing in comparison to the payday from a single mayhem difficulty heist
I do love the desync between the hand's animation and the bolt's animation when ADS-ing with the Amaroq XD
Also, congrats on becoming a partner! ^^
Will say, even without that inate AP on the Deimos, its a BEAST.
Through overkill and berserker it one shots everything except them dozers when shooting the head on DS.
I run it on my DW Sociopath build in place of the reinfeld 88. Deimos does more damage and has (i believe) the highest ammo pickup of non-mag shotguns? Absolutely beautiful.
Damn the stoner lmg in payday with the chainsaw grip cool.
The fact you specified it's based on Arctic Warfare Magnum made my gun nerd mind smile
0:52 technically the AWM is different from the Arctic Warfare Police used in CS
the new lmg minigun hybrid is like the little friend in a way since the underbarrle flamethrower is like the little friends m203 that its like a second secondary for utility and some extra fire power
Welcome to the partner role, I am so excited to see more long-form story and lore content in addition to great mechanical breakdowns for outsiders.
Pretty sure the Deimos is also based on a gun from CSGO, that being the Nova 12 gauge
Time to add the bullet penetration back via modding.
I like how overkill keeps putting AP on newly released guns and immediately taking them away do to how OP is is 😂
It sounds like the AWP from CS as well, and I think that’s important as that sound is both dope and distinct.
COD Ghosts weapon pack. I don't play much counterstrike because I like to be able to hit what I am aiming at.
Oh god those headshots with the Deimos 2:12
i love your stuff, keep on going
Dont peek the dozer
I really like the new sniper rifle, I just hope they fix the ADS bolt cycling animation. The bolt desyncing from the hand is super annoying and I noticed that it happens with the Pronghorn too. I just can't run iron sights or low magnification optics on those guns because I get so distracted whenever I see that broken animation
my friend, AWP = artic warfare police; AWM = artic warfare magnum
It's not the Arctic Warfare Magnum.
Magnum variant (AWM) is chambered either in .300 Winchester Magnum or the .338 Lapua Magnum the ammo seen in game is .308, additionally the AWP is the police variant that comes out with a black frame.
So it's neither of them 😅
Update 236 is the epitome of "Fuck around and find out"
Wait McShay Pt4 is the last? Bruh F to Gage man, i havnt been paying much attention to the story, but when i check the dlc list on steam, the last one with Gage was the Gage Russian Weapon Pack from Mar 2017. It seems like lately the PayDay Gang has been buying from everyone _except_ gage, The Butcher, McShay, The Mexican Cartels, Jiu Feng.
I cant tell who sold the Gunslinger Pack but given the last similar one was the Butchers Western Pack, thats my best guess.
"AWPer hand" has to be either a sneaky TF2 reference or a great coincidence
they fr added the chopper LMG from cod to PD2 epic
ayo dat cloaker wallbang tho lmaooo
The chainsaw lmg with a flamethrower is very cool
Kknowley, you didn't tell us the most important thing. Does the AWP do the sound or not?
So, as an FYI, this update added one more thing... GenSec tapes. Once you enter crimenet, you're being informed about it. I haven't played the mode yet, so I'm not sure what it's all about, but I'm interested if there are any lore implications with them.
"Sadly though there is no jar of piss in the game so the closest I'll ever get to Jarate are toxic granades"
ah yes the Souvenir Dragon Lore skin
very cool
flamethrower lmg can be good for anarchist builds.
maybe in Payday 3 we would get a Knowley, Grouse and RussianBadger DLC
Overkill pulled a double-Valve on us
i hope to god the nova*'s action-swap system gets put on the predator. thats literally the spas 12's thing
(*idr the payday name)
Weapons aside, I don't know how I feel about this. Granted I have been on this trainride for 3 years at least but still, Payday 2 Dlc is done, onto Payday 3. I'm sad but not everything lasts forever so I have high hopes of what's to come. And from what it seems it's 10 anniversary is in around 4 months. Still, looking forward to what's to come.
Those are cool weapons I just hope it gets ported to crimewave
Grats on hitting partner!
Can we get a video on the new lost tapes feature? I’d love to hear your perspective as a lore enthusiast
10:01 Wait so is this like an official crossover weapon or something???
Late, but the AWM is the Arctic Warfare Magnum. The AWP is the Arctic Warfare Police.
Sup Kknowley, I got a question. How do you have that white dot crosshair? Great video as always. :)
It’s the motion dot in accessibility settings :)
I doubt that title isn't a hint as to the next planned challenge run
Congrats maaan!!!! Love you
Wow, they didn't even try to avoid copyright or anything. It really is just "Dragon Lore."
You didn't remember that valve completely gave the rights and allowed them to use the skin haha
I really wish I was this good at payday 2. I've just started doing DS difficulty
They should have kept the armor pen but just attached it to the exclusive set.
I hope we get all payday 2 heists in payday 3 like what they did with the OG.heists in 2
every single heist? nah, but it would be cool to get some of the classics like big bank
Yea finally i waited for this so much ty and congratulations on joining the overkil crew it was. Should have happened already 8 years ago Xd
The Deimos shotgun and dragons breath ammo it's op it's shredds enemy's 😂😂
I noticed you didn't mention the Deimos being able to switch between pump action and semi-auto on the fly. Was this another last minute change along with the removal of its penetration?
I may just buy this DLC just for the Dragon Lore.
I know you explained it in your vid on why they can’t do it it’s just I really wish console would get the updates (I’m on Xbox)
they are experimenting much with hybrid weapons lately, I m guessing they are balancing under barrel modules for payday 3
yea im really confused why out of everything to balance the weapon, they removed the unique part about it. would it not be infinitely more interesting to balance it below the ideal shotgun because it has an inherent unique trait instead of trying to make it just another shotgun?
To be fair even without its absolutely busted. The two ways to look at the shotgun is the judge but with good ammo pickup or the versatility of the m1014 but the power to backup the weaknesses of the m1014. Just incase press v by default to switch from pump-action to semi-auto.
Congrats on becoming a partner!
SAY HELLO TO MY * new * LITTLE FRIEND!
omg they made the awp from item asylum into payday 2
A huge well deserved congratulations on becoming OVK partner!
I wouldn’t mind the AP effect but have it either be decreased pickup rate, or a seperate ammo type entirely. Have it be select to only pump actions given they could use a bit of aid.
Ahh yes if it had AP it would for sure outclass the Akimbo VD-12, Akimbo Goliaths, any Sniper or any akimbo SMG kekw. Even with Ap it wouldnt be top tier just a fun gun.
Yo congrats on making partner you have been posting so much helpful content about this game and you deserve it
Congrats on partner! you deserve it!
after 237 i miss this update :(
I'm surprised you didn't mention the lost tapes
Oh I will!
Still waiting for PD3 trailer!
Hope it comes in april.
3 more days
Yo, even grouse get in? Well, considering he and Badger is in a video from Payday official channel.
Since Payday is a PvE game the whole "powercreep" thing doesn't seem so bad to me. I think it's fine as long as they continue to buff and rebalance older stuff as well. All we really need is more updates like 210 and 220 so that older game content stays up to par.
I still don't understand the deimos. Whats the "flexibility"?
With that flamethrower attachment, BE CAREFUL IF YOU WANT TO USE AMMO BAGS. You could be take a lot from the bag with the attachment
But let's just all agree dragon lore conversion kit weren't neccessary
Awp dragonlore