How Rich are the Payday Gang?
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no
Double No.
you fool I ALREADY HAVE A SAVE ON THAT GAME FROM WHEN I WAS 11
video came out 9mins ago. Comment 2 days. TIME TRAVELLER CONFIRMED
Opera GX?
you forgot about the 7 dollars they lost in hoxton's breakout
they got it back in alesso heist
@@shockwaverc1369 is this true cause I respect payday so much more if they did
@@spottiestbeef7791 yeah, you can use the spare c4 to blow up the parking ticket machine in the basement after the concert portion, Bain even comments on it
"7 buck?!?! we were hardly here" bain got his priorities right xd
What about the 2 dollars Dallas lost giving money to the statue in the safehouse?
How could of you forgotten the large part in the story line, in which the payday gang stay in the meth lab for 70 hours and 36 minutes (1200 bags, based off of my personal time for Kiss The Chef) on overkill difficulty, making $1,638,000,000?
Hoho! Only overkill! Imagine not playing DSOD. Pussy!
(This is a joke, most especially because I don’t dare touch DSOD until Infamy 5. I am currently Infamy 2.)
@@questionablelifechoices7501 not that different from dw just harder. Once I was doing four stories stealth with friends but it went loud. Everyone in the lobby died but I beat it singlehandedly with a stealth build
@@shrekworshiper4965 What are you talking about DS is miles above Deathwish.
@@questionablelifechoices7501 yeah dsod is fun I never get down I'm infamy
Edit I'm now infamy 25
@@shrekworshiper4965 The jump from DW to DSOD is insane though. It's 10 times worse than OVK to Chaos.
Dragan on a throne of gold coins is something I didn't know I needed
He is a god among peasants
Muscles isn't the only thing he's got.
those aren't just regular coins, those are dragan money
Bruh it's a Hobbit reference.
You should do how long the payday gang would be in jail for the crimes they have committed
Probably more then life for 6000+ murders and all of the larceny charges
Well they broke the white house so...
Life sentence. lol
On serious note, it's not hard to calculate, it just would take long to make.
For example Wolf.
Crimes committed:
First-degree Murder
Attempted Murder
Breaking and Entering
Trespassing
Concealed Carry
Assault And Battery
Manslaughter
Theft And Burglary
Threatening Behavior
Hostage Taking
Misuse of Private Assets
Forceable Restraint
Grand Theft Auto
Armed Robbery
Destruction of Private Property
Jaywalking
Drug Trafficking
Manufacture of Illegal Drugs
Possession of Illegal Drugs with Intent to Distribute
Illegal Modification of Firearm
Arson
Resisting Arrest
Destruction of Police Assets
Hacking Into Private Network
Interfering with Police Radio Frequencies
Smuggling of Illegal Firearms
Stopping Vehicle Traffic
Manufacture and Use of Illegal Explosives
Aiding and Abbetting Wanted Fugitive
Littering
Defacement and Destruction of Currency
Interference of Postal Services
Illegally Entering Prohibited Airspace
Use of Illegal Ammunition
Crossing a Central Reservation
Wilful Endangerment of Innocents
Damage to Public Property
Smuggling of Illegally Obtained Property
Appropriation of Weapons of Mass Destruction
Vehicular Manslaughter
Interference With Railroad property
Maritime Irregularity
Disturbing the Peace
Currency Counterfeiting
Theft and Mistreatment of Livestock
Theft and Illegal Transportation of Classified Weaponry
Violation of Geneva Convention Article 24 (Protection of Permanent Personnel)
@@skitof1005 he littered wolf is a fucking evil man
@@chaosmarine7931 littering and jaywalking are offenses punishable by death
"only 0,4% of jeff bezo's"
oh yeah i forgot about the more lucrative kind of crime
White gloves?
Based???
That variety of exploitation isn’t a crime.
*but it should be*
@@daltongarrett3393 crime is a legal term so a lot of unfair practices are protected from it
@@daltongarrett3393 im agreeing with you dude lol
>no extra loot on hoxton breakout
the 2 atms on day 1 beg to differ lol
Lmao, imagine breaking someone out for the cost of 2 ATMs, 100% worth it
Haha, you got me! Like I said, I missed loose cash, but that's a good spot!
@@Xplici_T well they don't carry a small amount of money it's actually a decent amount realistically and no reason to not hit it when you are doing other stuff
@@Xplici_T Yeah breaking Hoxton out was just a cover operation they were really after those 2 ATMs.
Extra equipment? What about a show of wireless EBM router. “Ill just keep looking for my own.”
I think what you should have considered when determining the money you earned was what difficulty was shown/implied to occurred with the heists. basically when the Deathwish units where implemented that seemed to be the units they would send out to the payday gang's heists. then when the Zeal Team where introduced, and so on
I definitely get what you're saying here but the canonical difficulty is so hard to judge. I picked Overkill for a genuinely researched reason, but it could be interesting to calculate scaling earnings on those later jobs too!
@@TheKknowley The Big Bank trailer shows dw units, thats somewhat of a clue
@@TheKknowley Hey, canonically Hoxton bought a casino that should go for 5 billion in the lowest category - I still think you were hasty writing off the infinite heists!
I think generally speaking, the difficulty calculated should ramp up with the drama of the story.
When the "Anti-Payday" squad is introduced, we're in Mayhem.
When the Zeal team is introduced, we're in Death Wish
When the Kataru's endgame comes around, we're in Death Sentence.
@@JagEterCoolaZeals don't spawn on DW, So it should be DS from then on
much richer if bobblehead bob catched the money successfully and then gave back to them for helping fund his business
How rich are the Payday Gang?
I think answer is just "Yes."
I mean at this point, with the regular visits to Harvest and Trustee for gold, they own more gold than probably exists in the world.
You forgot shadow raid ecm rushes, cook off and the players with 1m+ crime sprees
@@nguyenvanquang876 Infinite samurai armors
i wonder if people will start selling "payday gold" to people and say that it came from the payday gang
They’re just 3d printing it at this point
they are 3D printing gold.
I don’t know the exact amount but I’m sure they have more than $2.64
Y'know, just a wee bit more.
i'd even go as far as to say that they have at least a dozen!
@@RonaldMcJuicy a dozen $2.64's?
That's like
1...
2...
3...
4...
A lot
Wow you guys are wrong, they have at least 3.64$ because of the dollar Hoxton holds in Hoxton breakout.
@@dmVTG after hoxton breakout they are 3.36$ in debt
Its not about the money, its a crippling robbery addiction
So... cleptomania?
@@gcdubscal8520 yes.
"I did it for me... I liked it, I was good at it..."
@@gcdubscal8520 "why do i hear blood ravens?"
@@primusstar5995 *Blood Ravens Theme starts playing* ruclips.net/video/22DGLBlBZyc/видео.html
I didn't expect it would take this much work as it did to figure out this question, but huge respect for doing it and making it fun to watch. I don't even play Payday but I started watching since the lore videos and this channel has been great, hope you blow up when Payday 3 gets released
Thank you so much for the kind words!
At launch, Payday 2's hardest difficulty was Overkill, named after Overkill Software. In an update, Death Wish was added after Overkill to become the new hardest difficulty. Later, Mayhem was slotted in between Overkill and Death Wish. Even later, One Down was added, and some time after that, was name-changed to Death Sentence with the One Down mechanic being turned into an optional add-on to all difficulties. Generally, it is accepted that Overkill always was, and still is the intended difficulty to play on.
I’d love to see this made as a series where you gradually introduce more costs and/or gains through going to the highest difficulty from the start or taking into account how much ammo the crew goes through per heist. Would be a mammoth task but definitely an interesting idea
i just found your channel and you've been helping me get back into payday2 , your 2020 build inspired a similar build of my own focusing on a fast, aggressive tank
I think the 76% expenditure rate was a fair bit too high. Especially since it's a percentage and the gangs wealth is significantly higher than the average income of a household. Food for example doesn't equate percentage wise when you have 80k and 900mill being compared. Their expenses would obviously be higher than an average house. But not nearly as high as 650mill. Especially since they seemed to keep their wealth somewhat tucked away until after the pardon.
Edit: I should have watched the entire video lmfao. I still think it's too high. But significantly more reasonable after taking offshore money into account.
I think one problem when it comes to the payday gang and expenditure rates is we don’t really have any of the gangs personal info, we don’t really know how their daily lives during the events of the game actually go. So it’s hard to calculate food prices and other self indulgent acts minus maybe the gangs safe house areas, which technically also doesn’t work because the gang doesn’t really have “rooms” to themselves in the new safe house, only corners of it sectioned off for themselves.
there is also jimmys crippling addiction which would only drain his funds but most of the gangs have hefty hobbies hinted at in loading screen but on the flip there is also someone like john wick who wouldn't have many expense's aside from food and the occasionally new firearm
They are as rich as kings. Kings that steal from the rich.
They are more like Jesters than Kings
@@krimson8089 I guess so but then again have you ever seen a rich jester? And jesters appeal to kings not steal from them.
A song from Simon- "Steal from the rich give to myself"
Homie really calling them kings 😂
@@AppleJuiceIsTheBest Well I wanted to make a good comment and got this shit. You can't really blame me for trying.
Fun fact: Shadow raid is still in the console career mode( or at least on the Xbox one) however you only have to retrieve 4 bags for the mission to complete and that can be over multiple heists
That’s what I did because I hate stealth and don’t get it.
Overkill has abandoned everything but PC twice now.
@@Slender_Man_186l
As an economics major, I really appreciate the further calculations and adjustments for the cost of livings.
you picked the easiest major known to man
In payday 2, you can actually become the world's first Trillionaire through the grind
overkill is the most balanced, makes sense that it would be the "canon" one
Haven't played in quite a while. Think I'm reinstalling this!
"How much money does they Payday gang have ?"
Players with 1m+ crime sprees: uhhh idk, infinite maybe?
glitched counterfeit go burr
Cook Off grinding go brrr
I can't believe I'm seeing a sponsor from Adventure Capitalist. I remember my friends and I playing that in class like five or six years ago. Then we discovered that you could go to your date and time settings on your phone and skip forward decades into the future and come to back to the game with amounts of money so large that I can't remember what they were called. It wasn't the most action-packed game out there, but it sure as hell beat sitting in art class with our awful teacher.
Hahahaha art class is lame
Something i want to point out is that the offshore accounts are actually in Macau, Not Singapore or Switzerland. This is because as in the Undercover heist once your activate the final hack, it shows on the computer the money being transfered from the IRS to an offshore in Macau
why would bain send it directly to their offshore accounts from a government agency
Well done sir. This was work that nobody asked for but is very interesting to see the result of!
I love these very different sort of Payday videos! Keep it up!
Not sure if you mentioned it and I missed it but what about taking into consideration the cost of laundering the cash and fencing gold and stuff like that?
I believe that's already assumed in the prices of the loot
Not sure about the laundering cost but a specific fencing cost wouldent be needed as pretty mutch any item that isent money, gold, drugs the contracter are asking u for so they would be the fence and they are paying u. Jewelry and diamonds are the only things i can thing of at the top of my head that would actully need a fence of sort and comparing to the other loot types they are pretty rare or just heist specific.
If we assume Scarface makes some moves on the side, their total could go up pretty high.
Yeah, but I think calculating other heisters and their side hustles would be a tricky question too. We know Joy does coding, wouldn't be surprised if she does phising scams for example.
@@gratuitouslurking8610 Or making games.
@@unwithering5313 Ethan and Hila just are h3h3
@@gratuitouslurking8610 In the web series it’s stated Dallas had a legit job as a banker for a while- idk if that rings true by the end tho.
@@Hound_Manix that would mean hes a banker in first world bank. Wouldnt they notice the lack of a banker during a robbery?
Before this video started I got a 470 minute long ad that was just a 12 second long clip of a river flowing and then repeating for the rest of the 470 minutes
In the trailer for the Dentist we find out that Hoxton Breakout is offered as incentive to Dallas by the Dentist to convince him to pull off the other heists such as big bank and golden grin. So at a minimum it shouldn't lose or earn any money.
I think the minimal earns come from the other loot earned in the heist, like the commissars coke, the paintings and artifacts from the museum, and the millions of dollars the GGC has.
And while the Diamond and GGC have very obvious reasons for why the dentist would want them done, I think big bank was a test? And the gang just got to keep all the cash and gold???
Nice job. I could not calculate this all by myself.
The question is how will inflation factor into this
Carrot
I would absolutely love to see the spreadsheet he used to make this
I will say, I somewhat doubt every heister would get the exact same pay, with at least Chains, Hoxton, Dallas, and Wolf probably being given a bit more, as well as the most important heisters like Duke, who was instrumental in saving Bain.
0:04 No facial movements but you can still see how he regrets his life in that moment
You didn't take account of the 7bucks for the parking in hoxton breakout!!
Fr, those garage guys are the real thieves
@Saiko Chan Well i'm not sure if that's canon. It's completely optional and missable and as far as i remember there's never a point where it's aknowledged outside of the acheivement and heist itself.
@Saiko ChanI mean yeah, but the points still stand.
@@friendlyneighborhoodcrusad4242 This video assumes the Payday crew got all loot available in the heists so that $7 does count
@@growlithekid Touché
When’s the next DSOS A-Z episode coming out?
Working on another challenge video, then a little something for the mod lovers, then DSOD A-Z will be back in full force.
Shadow Raid was absolutely too hard for new players. I started back a couple months ago (around April or May) and when I had to do Shadow Raid in the story mode, I still had no concept of the difference between guards and civs, how the stealth really works, concealment of all damned things. All I thought you had to do to do stealth was being a silenced pistol.
edit: I should clarify now that I’ve dumped about 300 hours into the game now and understand *most* of the stealth mechanics, but that’s now.
Tip: guns without suppressors are loud but melee takedowns always are silent allowing for stealthy takedowns.
@@sud1881 I knew that much, and I had a surpressed gun.
@@PyrrhaNikos115 actually useful tip: trip mines can be used in stealth to track guards remotely.
@@sud1881 Again, I know this NOW, but I didn't know that within my first 20 hours of playing.
@@PyrrhaNikos115 Tip: you can kill bulldozers without removing their faceplates if you shoot the body as they still take damage.
I wonder when Hoxton burned the original safehouse, does the cash get destroyed in the fire too? if it is then the cash they have on hand are lesser than what is calculated(assuming all of the cash are burnt in the fire)
I’m sure he’d notify everyone soon enough to get the money out
@@british35No mate Hoxton clearly just burnt Houston and all the gang’s cash to ashes for a laugh
15:36
Dallas: 'How the fuck did that stand up?'
One cost we haven't considered is ammo. They use...a LOT of ammo.
They use an absurd amount, but technically they only bring a certain amount with them, and collect the rest through on sight procurement, and I've rarely left a mission without at least half my max ammo, so that may not be as absurd a cost as one would assume.
@@GrohiikVahlokJul but even then, and including weapons like the rocket launchers that cant get ammo pickup. It's alt of money.
i think the final cutscene is to show who's going to be on the next payday game could be
Easy answer, calculate all current player data into a singular cost..
How much trillions when we have hackers?
@@thepanzerofthelake732 not even, most likely quadrillions or even more
considering what they went trough , 30 mil per member seems like pennies
yeah but thats really unexcact the 4 original members obvisouly have way more then that while the last members have way less
Next video how many medic bags Did Dallas use during the story mode
Bruh how did you not go over when the gang spent 7 whole days cooking meth on deathwish difficulty smh my head.
Great video but the offshore interest calculation should have been done with Macau offshore accounts because on Undercover (at least in Payday 2) when the money is being transferred the screen says it's being transferred to a Macau offshore account
They could also canonically have $0 because someone leaned on the big red button in the vault.
I like that Goat Simulator pays so much.
Honestly was a great analysis until the cost of living part. I’m sure the gang lives more than lavishly but after saying you’re an economist applying a flat 76% cut in “living costs” is absolutely insane for anyone making multiple millions a year. You are counting hard cash, untaxed, and it’s not like they are billionaires of tech companies who have most of their assets tied up. Realistically spending wouldn’t even be 20% of their costs annually. Assuming they made 600 million dollars in the first few years I highly doubt they somehow spent 450+ million of it in the same amount of time. Your numbers already count contract costs so that kind of spending just doesn’t make sense. Even if it was spent most of it would go to houses/assets that still hold value. While it’s a minute difference applying 76% just makes the payday gang look extremely more modest than they actually are. Your earlier estimate of a billion was probably closer.
Fun fact: your spending cash is 20% of the total heist earnings. Further proving your point the the cash is split 5 ways
You also forgot the space wizard skills of payday gang, Using their magic to shoot gold bags from a minigun at the back of the van...
Earning 1000000000 a heist
One missed detail. The money wasnt split evenly among the crew since they joined at different times. I think ill make some calculations myself since you did the yearly income i can just split it among the current crew of that year.
*removes shadow raid because it's too hard for new players*
*keeps breaking feds when my infamy 2 ass can't even beat it*
breaking feds is awful
Brute forcing it on loud is the only way I got through it for the stupid story mode.
My offshore account is 35 trillion +, I think we’re pretty rich
21:21 top 10 saddest anime deaths
Jacket spends a fortune on batteries.
Not just any batteries, probably iridium ones.
Probably also custom suits for his 3rd hand
If those whispers are true, Rust likely would not receive an equal share. The end credits says something about him filling a leather bag with some cash and driving away on his motorcycle.
wont lie its great to see PD3's lore freeze all their accounts, so theyre forced back into the world of crime. Makes a great starting point for new players and means we all get to start from the bottom and work our ways back up the criminal ladder once again :)
God back into payday and your videos are great, especially the story ones!
Now I need to try this job out
(joke)
What if we consider the 25 bags of meth to be canon? What if we consider full 100% completion of every achievement and all loot (including loose cash and jewelry) in the total? Surely they’ve be breaking $1bil then, right?
i mean you could have said over kill was the canonical difficulty due to achievement ask you to be on it. also all enemy types appear on that difficulty.
If i am based this on Payday Web Series
Chains talk that every member take 10 percent cut and the rest go to Bain as Fund for next score
14:05 (jaw hit the floor) they made that much money?!🤯
I feel like this video could be summed up like this “How much did the gang earn? About five of your mom’s credit cards”
After 19:32 I feel like the entire video was just to prove we should tax the rich more lol
Nah, blush blush and crush crush are the greatest making idle games
Just
No
Will you revisit this with the additional riches earned during the sidestory campaigns?
Talks about a game about stealing from banks and most capitalistic companys and money making corporations
Sponsor is Adventure capatilist
Exactly what I wanted to know
Now the real question is how rich are the developers
It's a shame inflation in this game rivals that of venezuela, smh buying a gun costs between 200.000 to a million dollars
Sure shadow raid is annoying to deal with but its incredibly easy
Their wealth is 30,730,449,92 per heister
Gang total being: 706,800,348,12 dollas
How much the crew is worth? Well they took America so I’m just thinking americas worth but that also that also means America debt so yea
I like to believe that Dallas, Chains, Wolf, Hoxton, and Houstan are the only people that made money
I love how Jeff bezos is still the richest bastard even in payday
They'll just steal his money
@@WaylaidByEndlessNinjas Almir Listo please-
@@WaylaidByEndlessNinjas What money? It's in stocks, dummy
Theyll do it like undercover
@@TheSultan1470 steal the stocks
This brings into perspective how much bessos and the other billionaires have
Btw the payday gang entirely technically get more than what it says on the mission because each member gets the amount that is said on the mission so if one person gets 400000 on a mission then everyone gets 1,600,000 entirely.
Are you going to do another one for payday 3
Given how much they rob and spend so little compared to what they earned, in addition the PD universe networth. I would assume that universe has super high inflation
Maybe for hox breakout he unfreezes some of his old assets
My non asked question has been answered
Hey there's probably a vid but I would really like to know the HUD that's being used, I'm trying to find it but I can't seem to
This makes you wonder. Why did they come back in payday 3 if they are almost billionaires?
How in absolute FUCK is shadow raid taken out of the story but framing frame isn’t
because framing frame can be done loud
But they still cant afford a better drill :(
I figured that for all the ones were they wouldn't get paid because of no outside contractor was just bain paying them for carrying out the job, as such they got paid while bain shouldered the price. this makes sense as something he would do to fulfill his obsession.
the payday gang : * litteritally makes nearly 50 million on the scarface mansion mission *
me when i played it : why must we burn da painting? why must we clean the car with a permanent bath? i want to steal this shit!
AT LEAST 3 dollars.
30 mil not bad? I was like the opposite they are broke as fuck given everything they did. Still alot of cash but that full roster really screwed the earlier members that did alot more to then be forced to split it with the ppl that came into the crew in the later stages. A more fair calculation would have been to only split the earnings with each member on heists that was released after they joined the crew. That would probadly have been a pain to calculate but atleast that would have been more fair. Also consider that Dallas bought a Jacht at the end and while i dont think we know it´s size so if we assume a 100ft that is roughly betwinn $15-$30 million dollar in yearly running cost depending on use not taken into account the purchase price. Dallas is financially screwed. Wasent he supposed to have been a banker at 1 point.
They didnt remove shadow raid from crimewave edition and let me just say, when I started i was literally in hell
Wait, really? Only 706 million dollars?
...That's less than I expected.
Its sad that despite these people *literally stealing money by the truckloads, committing the greatest heists known to man and literally robbing private Military corporations and their offshore storages*
Their earnings is still chump change compared to the sheer amount of money rich people make.
They hella rich, if you include that they buy lots of duffle bags and small drills for heists
So basically overkill difficulty is canon?
This isn’t perfect at all due to the fact that the heisters would be doing jobs in between story missions