The Grind is Digital - Digimon World 2 Review
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- Опубликовано: 19 июл 2024
- Digimon World 1 & 2 are worlds apart.
The first Digimon World game was a flawed game, but it was an interesting flawed game. Gamers that could look past it's short comings would at least find an interesting experience. The same cannot be said of Digimon World 2. Digimon World 2 is a very by the numbers JRPG that combines a bit from the mystery dungeon series and Final Fantasy..... and manages to mess both of them up. Gone is the uniqueness of the original game and in its place is grinding. Copious amounts of grinding, but that said, can the addition of new Digimon, mega forms, and DNA Digivolving carry this game beyond its short comings? Let's find out!
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Despite its grindiness, I enjoy this game. In fact, I completed it twice, once on my PS1 when I was a kid and again on my desktop using an emulator when Im in college.
Most commentators seem to feel the same, though most also suggest using an emulator with speed up
@@InfiniteComboReviews yeah i used to play it as a kid and still play it from time to time using the emulator on my pc but with the increased speed as i am not as patient as when i was a kid :D
This is probably the most accurate review of this game that I've found. I loved it growing up but I never realized how unbearably slow it takes to do anything in this game until I tried playing it again recently. The movement of the characters, the movement of your digi-beetle, the transition to the battle screen, the delay before your digimon attacks, etc. It's honestly incredibly agonizing to the point I don't understand how I put up with it as a kid. It feels like the PS1 is constantly struggling to render this game properly, when it doesn't even look that visually impressive compared to some of the other high profile RPG's on the system.
That's what really kills it for me. I could deal with all the other issues if the game just moved at a reasonable pace, but it just does not, at all. I'm playing it on an emulator now and I basically have to leave the speed up button constantly to get anything done in a reasonable amount of time, even when I'm not grinding. I'm still committed to finishing it but mostly just for the sake of closure.
It's really a shame because I feel like there was potential here to have a good RPG, but they just botched it totally.
You nailed it on the head. I would have mentioned all of those little issues, but the video would have been over an hour. Also you aren't the first person to mention playing on a sped up emulator. Seems to be the only way to really play it without going crazy. This game did have potential, but it just didn't live up to it. Get that closure!
@@InfiniteComboReviews For me, it was just the lag and lack of dungeon design that really felt weird to me. It’s funny how this is the direct sequel to the first game’s Digital World while Next Order is a side sequel continuing Mameo and Analogman’s fight in another Digital World entirely.
Digimon World 2 also had a major bug that will freeze the game. This is caused by the attack Shadow Scythe and Clockmon’s attack going after one another.
The only other Digimon ps1 game that froze on me was Digimon Digital Card Battle when a Gotomon was bursting out of the card during the 3D battle.
@@Knight41b Yeah, the dungeons are a real drag. I get that they are Mystery Dungeon style, but they just don't work. Also, Digimon World 1 will freeze if you use the jute box (even playing on the PS3).
@@InfiniteComboReviews I’m currently doing a playthrough of DW2 and noticed that their are a group of Digimon that can’t Digivolve (Some of those are early Data Type Digimon. This makes the Blue Falcons Guard team “Hard Mode”, Black Sword Guard Team “Normal Mode”, Gold Hawk Guard Team is “Easy Mode”.)
@@Knight41b Cool theory but I don't think that's the case. Which mons won't evolve for you?
I'm noticing that it's really easy to find the grind to be bothersome when we're short on time on our lives. I really loved this game when I was younger, and during commuting to work, it was pretty normal for me to find an emulator and boot this one up just for old time's sake. But it's definitely a lot of hours poured into it!
Very true. Grinding is much more of a bother as an adult than as a kid.
I used to play this game as a kid, and played through about 30% of it on an emulator at 200% speed. I had to give up because it was too slow.... it makes me wonder how patient i really was when I was a kid. I don't remember it hurting this bad lol. thanks for the review it was just the COPE i was looking for :)
I wasn't able to get very far in this game as a kid at all. If you look at a lot of the other comments, seems like playing this on an emulator with the speed turned up is the right way to go. Glad I could help!
I guess as kids we just had a lot more free time, but also a lot less stress, and less notion of time? And therefore, we didn't feel like we were killing away our time?
It took me a few years to realize it, but Digimon World 2, either intentionally or unintentionally, is a ripoff of the Matrix. The storyline leaves an awful lot of room for speculation and unanswered questions. What is the real world like, in this timeline? Is it beautiful, boring, or fallen in chaos? Who is Akira's family? Who is Esteena? Why did everyone choose to go to the Digital World in the first place? How did the real world respond? Are their minds stuck in the digital realm, or were they personally transported? Personally, I think it would be awesome if Netflix or someone else could make a tv series loosely based on Digimon World 2 and 3. Even poke fun at the fact that everyone else has unlimited MP, and that nobody else uses items, or has a blast gauge (DW3), except you.
I would like to see the classic DW games get remade/retooled with better story development that could answer those questions.
I always loved this game. The story is just too good! I wish they could do a remaster or even a anime with this story! I think I finished this game like 4-5 times.
kinda sad you couldn't evolve into Imperialdramon PM...
4-5 times!? Wow. That's impressive. I hear some fans are trying to remake Digimon World 1, so maybe getting a remake of 2 isn't so farfetched.
@@InfiniteComboReviews DW2 is my fav of the franchise i think i finished the whole game 10 times including the hard version mod. 99+ hours of gametime.
@@neilerikmasalihit1866 Dang! That's wild!
I now wonder if Digimon fans have been mistreated so many times on the games' side a things that they've naturally digivolved into masochists.
Ok, but jokes aside, damn, I hope the story really is stellar... I'm trying to find a Digimon game to get started on (probably DS) and then try to move on with a few other games after that.
Now, RPGs already aren't my cup a joe, especially the ones that do everything in their power to waste my time and patience, no matter how good the story is. I mean, why sit through hours of gamepain to witness a fantastic story... when I can just check it out online, right?
@@neilerikmasalihit1866 ...Jesus.
Say, uh, I heard of an Improvement Hack that was done for DW2. How does that one work? What does it improve, so to speak?
I don't know they could just keep the original formulaire, upgrading it and make a plot like "It's set few year later, File city is flourishing, a lot of Digimon moved there much more than those from the first game but Oh no, our savior Mamemo has been captured and a big danger is coming so everyone leaving the city, we need a new tamer to solve our problem"
They can technically still do that
DNA Digivolve was a pain to grind, being as patient as I am, I pretty much spent my entire childhood grinding this and found so many mechanics myself, in the age where google wasn't popularised. For example, in your video, you showed that you DNA digivolved a level 13 Greymon with a level 13 Airdramon, to get a Veemon. That Veemon's max potential is gonna be only a level 17 Veedramon. But if you used a level 14 Airdramon, he would become a level 18 Veedramon at max. The formula is basically Parent level + Parent level divided by 3, then multiplied by 2, and if it isn't a whole number, it is rounded down. With 5 DP though, you could get a Flamedramon instead of Veedramon for that Veemon's Champion digivolution. I'm looking forward to Digicon in February where they address queries on whether they intend to remaster any of these classic masterpieces.
Yeah, the grind really was a chore in that game, and unfortunately, despite all the time I played it. I never figured out how DNA Digivolving worked or how the potential worked, which is a shame but it is what it is. I would like to see a remake of the PS1 games though. That would be pretty sweet.
Next digi con this year perhaps they going mentioning more about older digimon remakes video games with in-game improvements. 🤞🏾
Really love this game, but never actually finished it. Honestly, I have to hardly disagree on the whole "type limitations" thing as it allows for different styles of gameplay and, you'd be surprised, it's not as hard of a limitation as it seems, as you can start working on other types as you hit a pretty early domain (I think it was boot? the metal greymon one but I did get the drops from earlier domains, so maybe even earlier). Toy cars ARE a thing there. technically, it is also pretty early in game, and it's takes not too long to actually get to area with all team things being sold without restrictions. it's just progression of the game to avoid you from being too op.
Also, digital beatles were pretty cool. I actually enjoyed being able to upgrade them. Gave a sense of progression and more reason to grind besides getting digi to 11, digivolving, then grinding them until max. Just walking in digital world always seemed to me to be dangerous and having digital beatle to be piloted by human, storing items and having tec inside it to teleport, scan area, attack, heal is cool.
I wish we would get a remaster. I'd love to hear a more mature version of what happened during blood knights attack and more about teams themselves. It could be a good base for online digimon game as I can see it being on levels of SMT Imagine if they expand on all features.
I'm glad you enjoy this game. At the end of the day all reviews boil down to personal opinions, so play what makes you happy. I understand why you like the beetle and type limitations, but I still think they are flawed mechanics that take more away from the game than they add.
I actually remember enjoying digimon world 2. It had a moment where I felt content with the game. Though my favorite has always been digimon world 1. Struggled with it for what felt like years (probably was like 12 months). We could never get ultimates and we would just get destroyed by the game mechanics... and then suddenly our poor champion took its last teaching lesson on the chalkboard and we thought it was going to be reborn into a digitama... when its head sank and the screen froze... we were sad... and then a thought bubble showed up... it wasn't hungry, sleepy or tired... it was evolving! it became our first andromon ... our first ultimate.
All that time sunk into that game and that moment was special for me at least. Afer that, the game got easier and we started to finally understand the evolution system and a friend had found a bunch of stats for each digimon path which greatly helped us fill out our evolution chart. Had the most fun playing digimon 1. Too bad they didn't improve on the replay cause evolving was fun but not enough quests to fill it out.
DW3, DW4 were trash. DW3 was boring af and DW4 was for babies or something. The rumble arena games were great, we used to play with the neighborhood a bunch with that! But honestly the most polished of all DW games was the card battle games. Those were deeply engaging and had all the animations. A good memories growing up playing digimon... good memories.
The grinding is the worst thing about digimon world 2
I first played it on nov 2001. Caught the special metalgreymon, train it to max level. And then grind the megadramon to max level. Dna digivolve them, get greymon, grind it until it reached wargreymon. By then it was jan 2002, only to find my save files become corrupted, after spending the whole school holiday grinding it.
I was like, screw this! I am using gameshark in the new save file! And so i did.
I hear that! The grinding doesn't even feel like it has a purpose when they could have just used a normal exp system. Also nice work getting the Metal Greymon. It kicked my butt and then was gone forever.
DW2 is one of my top 5 games. I’m researching to find out why after so many years 😅
Have you tried looking into the strategy guide for answers?
Nostalgia
I do believe this game can be fixed for the modern day.
1. Digibeetle working like a 2d zelda
2.digivolve and digivolve for more evolve options to CHOOSE from
3. All digimon having two signature moves as well as learning other moves
4. Recruiting new Digimon like in a Pokemon game.
5. Keep the visual style and music of the human stages the same but replace the character models with sprites
Definitely sounds like a better game to me.
You pretty much described Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth series with some minor difference. And, yes, compared to DW2, it's SO MUCH better as a game
It took me too long to learn to recruit other digimon
Yeah, I have the strat guide from when I was a kid and just remembered that you could do it and then looked in the instructions. Probably would have taken me longer otherwise.
Ah yes. Digimon World 2. When I played this on my PSOne as a younger tot, I just loved how the game looked, feels, and the excitement of meeting new Digimon. I stuck with my Greymon until the dungeon where you can catch a MetalGreymon (Thanks to the lack of taming Digimin tutorial). And I reached the part of the game where I defeated Chaos Lord. After that, I lost my save file due to being overwritten by a save Digimon World 3.
I'll admit, I've gotten my row of scoldings from my parents, and arguments with my brother over this game. I've played over 154 hours, and now that I am edging to my 30's, I am still in shock and wondering how in HELL was I invested with this game?? It's a DUNGEON CRAWLER with RPG Elements that are at least 20% of the entire game (the back and forths and looking for the persons needed), the grinding and the damned DNA Digivolution mechanic, and lastly, THE GAME IS SO FUCKING SLOW. I played this a few years ago, on an emulator, and I just cannot stand the normal speed! The battles, the load times, CHIEF ENGINEER CAROL AND THOSE TAPPING FEET.
This may be my younger self having the absolute patience over this, and of course loving Digimon for a fact, but seriously, Digimon World 2 is really not a good game. It's perhaps the nostalgia and simple but slow gameplay mechanics that buffs up it's charm.
But anyway! Thanks for the review, man. Looking forward for more. Cheers and +Sub for you, ser.
That's a lot of time invested there. Even childhood me couldn't handle this one, and yeah, from what other commenters have said. Sped up emulator is the way to go if you want to play this one, if you really, really need that nostalgia boost. Thanks a lot, glad to have you!
This game is a guilty pleasure of mine that I go back and run on an emulator for Nostalgia because Sony can't be bothered to put it on the store or make their new consoles 100% backward compatible.
I feel that, though yeah. Emulation with speed up seems to be the ticket and oh man it would be cool if my PS5 could play PS2 games, though it's a bit sad to make my classic consoles that served me so well obsolete.
this may be my favorite game in the original series, but i never fault people for hating it. I think its neat people can still appreciate the good music. The game is much better on an emulator for one reason, you can just fast forward the fights! it makes the grinding WAY less tedious. It also makes going to your damn digibeetle a lot faster as well. And for some reason...the "black screen"s also can get fast forwarded through...which leads me to believe the game doesnt load slow...it just IS slow lmfao. This game can use a nice remake, with QoL improvements. Digivolution trees, a MUCH faster paced game in general, the ability to gain more than 1 freaking level per battle (making it viable to bring babies into later game content and simultaneously making the path to digivolving even easier), removal of useless padding everywhere like the colored stones that block pathways forcing you to invest in a useless digibeetle part and taking up precious inventory on useless missiles, a rework to catching digimon (its not bad in my opinion, i like that you have to kill them and get xp before they join your party), and maybe add digibeetle parts that can do things like save the coordinates of the last floor you were on, or maybe just fucking scrap it all together and let the tamer explore in the overworld, and use the digibeetle in the actual dungeons. Like making your way from file city to one of the domains, battling and recruiting wild digimon along the way, and have you manually enter the corrupted domain so you can access it with your digibeetle. I really liked you rreview, i understand the hatred but its still one of my favorite games, but to be honest, i couldnt stand the speed back then and its been a lot more fun revisiting the game through emulation than playing on my old ass ps3 lol
Thanks. Yeah, it seams to be the commonality among the comments that playing on an emulator with speed up with the preferred way to play this one. Thats why I made sure to mention it in the DW3 review. I do agree with you. A remake with quality of life changes would be awesome and this game deserves it!
When I was 12-16 years old, each time I was on school vacation I would tell myself "I'm goingo to finish Digimon World 2". I used to like this game when I was a child, so I really felt like playing through it. Even though I liked meeting new digimon, mixing up moves and even the DNA system (yes, I liked that lol), I could never ever bring myself up to actually finish the game. One time, I actually got pretty far, but not far enough. I didn't realize it at the time, but I think the slowness really got to me in a subconscious way
I can understand that. Plus it is a very, veeeeery long game.
Probably the grindiest game of Digimon games and nothing beats that. What i love about this one is the grind aspect if all the animations were 10x faster and xp gains were faster the higher your Digimon's DP because getting Duo Scissor Claw, Tidal Wave, Grisly Wing, Armor Coating to an already high DP leveled Digimon took lots of time. Just 1 Digimon. They should have rewarded players who have high DP Digimons xp gain boost just to cut the grind in half at least, other than that the game's variety is great. Lots of Digimons to choose from and once found the Digimon end game your aiming at is where all it starts. Did a run of Duo Scissor Claw the game at the fastest way to it and the game was trivialized. Also did a run with just Viruses and oh boi Grisly Wing was a clutch help in this run since in this run you can only have 5 Moves of Non-Virus Digimons and Duo Scissor Claw is illegal in this run. The game also unexpectedly has a decent story that i didnt expect to such a game, i thought it was just gonna be "More Dungeons to Unlock as things happen" but i got invested in the story.
The Dungeons themselves were minigames as well since their randomized so you need to think about the items in your Digibeetle to what to put or just cut off like No MP items and more EP/Digibeetle HP Items.
Sadly, Digibeetle doesnt have any good customizations. You are stuck upgrading it but no personal touches unlike the other tamers youd encounter.
Is it a great digimon game? Yes, lots of digimons to choose from. Is is great of a game? Decent. If the grind was cut in half and the animations didnt take ages to finish it would be a good game. Is is good for newcomers? No, dont attempt it without Speed boosting anything or any lack of knowledge of the game, the game is unfriendly to those who are unprepared to the grind and kinda slept on tutorial on DNA Digivolutions.
Unsuprisingly this is better than World 4 Solo. In terms of being a Digimon Game, a game of its genre nor variety.
Most of the commenters agree that the best way to play this game is using a sped up emulator. Really helps with the grind. Though the fact that you did runs is impressive in itself. Good job. Also, yeah, World 4 is pretty bad.
Digimon World 4 is even worse with the grind.
most of these games are endless grinds because...well...games at some point were made to keep the kids busy.
dw2 was the master of keeping the kid busy. 50 hours of gameplay just to get a raidramon as a kid, and here I was aiming to get imperialdramon completely legitimately without dp chips (didn't even know they existed at the time.)
could do it today but I would be parting with some amount of my sanity.
still love this game though, never had so much fun planning long term in a game before aside from some select final fantasy titles.
Trust me. I reviewed Digimon World's 1-4. I'm well aware of the grind.
The slowness on the game didnt really bother me as a kid. I guess it's because I really loved the game like Digimon 1. Finishing it longer means enjoying the game longer I guess.
Then I grew up wondered how did I have the patience to finish the game lol
I hear you. We all just had more time on our hands as kids that it just didn't matter.
This was one of the games I grew up on. And back then it was hella grindy, but I didn’t mind it since back then I was a kid and couldn’t get a new game every week. So the grind wasn’t that bad. Now, I’m playing the Alternative version on my PS Vita, and honestly that is the best way to play this game now since there is save states. It is still grindy, but with the game being portable it is a lot easier to consume. And I do believe Alternative helps lessen the grind a bit. It definitely did with the Digi-Beetle as I’ve been able to keep up with the upgrades this time around. Though I might just be better at keeping my money in hand.
So I say, if you want to play this game, play the modded versions. Alternative in particular as it fixes some things. And if you can play it on a PS Vita or phone to have access to save states. It is still grindy as hell, but for me it has been a lot of fun. Also the Alt version gets rid of the conversation every time you come back to the city.
This was my childhood too, but even with the strategy guide that I got the same day, it was too tough for me. The grind was never the issue, at least back then. It was a drag for this review, but I don't remember intentionally grinding, more so just getting lost. Also yeah, all the commenters have basically said that emulation to speed things up is the way to go here, though I did beat it legit so I doubt I'll be going back to it anytime soon. I've got other Digimon games to review after all!
@@InfiniteComboReviews I got the guide before I got the game and without it I wouldn’t have been able to beat the game. Even with it the game was fairly difficult, but eventually I beat the whole thing. It lives in an era where grinding like that was a big deal. And honestly it isn’t as bad as Digimon World 3’s grind. And yes with emulation and modded versions, the game is a much enjoyable play through.
@@Jociaoftrades Oh. I refused to grind in DW3 for that review. I brute forced my way all the way to end!
my first ps1 game, and it was the JP version LOL
the art cover tricked me.
Wow. I struggled to figure out what to do in the US version. Unless you can read JP, that must have been rough!
I gave up on this game when I noticed that dungeons kept becoming more and more confusing and I had to bring more and more ammo to destroy blocks, electro bugs and so on. I mean I wanted to focus on the battles but I really couldn’t. Then the forcing to DNA digivolve was also super annoying. At some point it was becoming really repetitive and punishing …
Very, very true. Though I never thought the dungeons were confusing, just tedious. It all really comes down to grinding. For money, upgrades, and Digimon.
Right now i just learned how yo capture wild Digimon un the internet because the game never tells you how. The problem is that i have an IceDevimon caped at level 13… this is hell.
Yeah. You have to look in the instruction manual to find out that info. Its dumb.
I still play Digimon World 1 occasionally, but I have no idea how I managed as a kid. All I wanted to do was beat Birdramon, and it never failed to freeze before I could win and save the game, or even walk to their nest. I think most other recruitments were fine, however Birdramon was CURSED. Well, as cursed as an old scratched up CD could be lol. Didn't care about the graphics and annoying controls so much, but I hated the glitches that would end up causing freezes at the worst times lol (I'm looking at the corner of Jijimon's House)
Can't say I had that many freezes, but different versions of the game can cause freezes at different spots. I was shocked when the jukebox froze my PS3 before I found out about this.
Yo that battle music was incredible. Pumped me up too.
100%
In my opinion DW1 "WAS" a Masterpiece...a flawed masterpiece...yet a Masterpiece nonetheless.
The most memorable masterpieces are the flawed ones in my opinion.
I've had it in my mind for a while could Digimon World 2s concepts work for as a sort of pokemon go for digimon. The 3 tamer guard clubs could easily be the 3 teams in pokemon. The battle system would be great and would work well. Keep the arena's as well so you could battle npcs or other tamers online. And an online trading database like pokemon's gts but better. Taming pokemon could be the same each type of digimon has a favorite item but you could give them items in game to tame them. Take out the tank and just have your tamer be your avatar like in pokemon go.
Sounds like a lot more fun than the PS1 game. I hope something like that gets made eventually.
Honestly this type of game is very similar to shin magami tensi series.
Shin megami tensei 5 expects you to pay in game money to resummon a demmon to your party,
Which you will be doing alot because there is no real way to store them.
And if you dont save thier data you will have to grin thier level back up again.
The game wants you to switch party memebers because of element typing and skill sets.
Interesting. I've never played a Shin Megami game, but I wouldn't have guessed that about them.
I enjoyed this game back in the day but I had a Game Shark haha. Infinite money and quick XP gain made it so much more bearable
Every commentor basically has a similar story. This game is great when cheating.
Yo I thought I remembered this game because it was fun, but now I remembering the frustration of upgrading the buggy 😂
Oops
Although a huge fan of Digimom unfortunately World 2 is one of the games I never managed to finish...
Honestly the fact that it needs so much grind that at some point you just get tired (and I'm saying this as I happen to chase Platinums that contain a lot of grind)
At least as a game it gave us some very interesting Digimon, like the fusion of the 3 Chaos Lords.
Maybe I'll eventually finish it if they ever come out on Playstation Premium, but until then I don't think it's worth my time or my effort
Well a lot of commenters have told me that emulating and using speed up is a great way to circumvent that issue.
Glad I watched this video, I remember loving this game as a kid, and even though I haven’t seen it in 2 decades I still hum some of the music to myself. Recently got the urge to play through it again, but I guess it really is all just nostalgia. Oh well, guess it’s back to Final Fantasy Tactics again to scratch my childhood itch.
Oh also, I know the DNA system is tedious, but I thought it was so cool that your Digimon could basically hop to different evolution trees, because I was so used to Pokémon where evolutions are set in stone.
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. Final Fantasy Tactics is a good choice sir. Good choice.
Great Review as always. I'm always left pretty jealous by the editing, man you have a serious knack for it, kudos. So was this pre or post Pokemon? I have to ask because some of the awful mechanics like only gaining a single level per battle regardless of Exp is damning. I couldn't imagine trying to train pokemon with that flaw. I'll gladly stay away from this one since I'm not the biggest RPG person, despite the fact that I'm playing one as I type this, and I hate grinding with a passion lol.
Thanks! So this was waaaay past Pokemon. I think it even came out after Gold & Silver, because I know it came out during Digimon 02 because that's how I knew who Veemon was. Yeah, avoid this one, the grinding is brutal.
@@InfiniteComboReviews Geez, those kind of mistakes would be passable pre-pokemon and maybe right after Red and Blue but are inexcusable after Gold and Silver. Are you a Pokemon fan at all? I was never a digimon kid and only caught wind of the series through conversations about Pokemon being the better show.
Honestly, a lot of the item management stuff is what I would expect from a NES game, not a PS1 game. It's pretty frustrating, even for the time. I am still a Pokemon fan, primarily the games though I haven't played Sword & Shield yet, and no. The Pokemon anime is not as good as the Digimon anime.
@@InfiniteComboReviews I'm with you I'm a big fan of the Pokemon games and I haven't watched the anime in probably 15 years lol.
@@RetroDrew Yeah, I've pretty much only watched cool battle clips from the show, though I am watching the Digimon Adventure Reboot thats going on now.
I didnt finished the game. Dont get me wrong I LOVE THIS GAME!! its my childhood game. But dang, when I hooked it up in the emu and speed it up, I still havent and didnt fished the game due to the grindyness of it furthermore being a working drone weeb makes it impossible for me to go back and finish it. Nonetheless, one of the best games I played. its a masterpiece level. lol.
Interesting take. A masterpiece you can't finish. XD Well I'm glad you enjoyed it and hope you do get to give it another go one day!
I'm glad you brought up how unclear it was to add more Digimon to your team. 10 year old me could not figure it out. I was really disappointed because I wanted to like this game.
Its funny because I knew how to as a kid, but I forgot as an adult and had to scour the instructions to find it.
What was the first game you ever reviewed?? I'm new to reviewing games myself so I'm curious
Depends on what you count. Back on Game Trailers before RUclips had really taken off I did a TMNT Arcade vs TMNT 4 video and on this channel my first video was my TMNT NES video, though I've taken it down since I remade it a while back.
The music is my favorite part of this game. The boss music slaps
It is pretty awesome.
I have to agree. I am personally not fond of this game, but I will admit that the boss music is great, and I don't get tired of listening to it. It's a lot like the boss fight music from the first game in that it's intense and gets you pumped up, which I enjoy
@@matthewkuscienko4616 Seems likexall the Digimon world games have music that's fire
I was only able to play this game when i went to my cousin's house to celebrate christmas together. So it was only for an hour or so but i enjoyed it. We didn't have playstation at that time but already had experience playing ps1 games via rental. After more or less than a year, we had our own ps1 but i wasn't able to play this game. I only played dmw3 and i love it. I wished i bought and played this game back in the day.
Try emulating it. A lot of people I've spoken with and other commentors say it's the best way to play DW2 now.
The DNA digivolving in this game sounds so bizarre. Modern digimon games, and even the DS games (but those are a little stricter) have level caps but it's so easy to devolve your party members and have them gain the levels back while in the reserve of and you rarely have to do this more than once or twice to get a high level final form digimon you can take to the end of the game. I guess they learned from their mistakes eventually.
That's good to hear. Don't know if I could stand dealing with that again.
I think you also have to mention how you evolve gabumon and you see a centaurumon and then once you figure out how to get garurumon you evolve weregarurumon and then you end up with skullmammothmon. That def frustrated me when I first started.
I feel you there... so many times...
Played it as a kid, never bothered to learn the game
Played it again on emulator
102 hours later on the game
I've done it
But man oh man
102 hours. Oof. Well played.
as a child i loved this game; but i never played past that mechagreymon or whatever it is that you can tame real early in the game. 8 yr old me loved the game and i might play it again now with speed hacks on emulators to speed things up and see if it makes the grind bareable. i just played through all the breath of fire games and using the speed hacks to speed things up really helped with grinding in the first 3 games.
Yeah. Give it a shot. Seems like a lot of the other commentors have said the game is much better with speed hacks.
I remember when I played as a kid I never understood how to get new digimon. So my progress stopped at lvl 13 greymon. Aaaand that’s how I stopped playing
Yeah. I totally get that.
@@InfiniteComboReviews but the reason I even stumbled upon this review was cause yesterday I got to play it again through “completely legitimate means”. Guess I will try it now with actually knowing English)
@@danzansandeev6033 Good luck. I recommend using speed up features in your "completely legitimate" play through.
I thoroughly enjoyed the game and may even do a lets play for it. i didnt see the digibeetle as grindy just for the fact of you're getting bits for the items while leveling up your team and getting the ones you want in your team, so while i grinding my mons i had the bits for upgrades. Biggest tip tho is get a bit bug use auto pilot instantly lol.
I have a soft spot for the game, but I think you'll find yourself in the minority when it comes to seeing the digibeetle as grindy. Most of the comments both here and when I asked the Digimon Reddit about the game all mostly agree that playing this one via emulation and speed up is the way to go because of said grind.
Honestly World 2's Evolution system while terrible did go onto form the foundation of the Digimon Story game's system where you have to Digivolve and DeDigivolve to earn ABI that lets you get higher base stats and better Evloutions so Im somewhat thankful World 2 Exists so we got the Amazing Story series out of it.
I hear you. Sometimes you have to fail at something first before you can make something great.
I love playing DW2, and it is a pain in the a** to lvl up trough DNA and so on on the PS1.
With an Emu on pc just uncap the fps and play with fast forward, made the game much more easy for grinding.
With that fps uncap it also took me something like a bit less than 3 hours to finish Tera Domain.
I had a tactic for lvling up Rookies, i had one rooky in the parte and 2 Megas that could one shot in one turn champions so i lvl up the rookie up to champion lvl and than i go to Tera Domain and lvl it up there in the only first 2 floors where i could defeat the enemies in 2 turns. The grind was and is a pain in that game.
Will you do also a Digimon Digital Card Battle review?
Yeah, that seems to be the general consensuses, so I made sure to mention the pros of emulating in the Digimon World 3 review.
Here I am, my child abandoned this game but the 30 years old me is loving every moment of the 45 hours that I played in this December, got my first Mega by the way, VenomMyotismon
Well done! I tried for VenomMyothismon but didn't know what I was doing for the evolutions and got something else. Can't remember what though. I did get a Griffonmon.
@@InfiniteComboReviews Im playing blind but I got it with 5 Digivolution Pointis (DP), Icedevimon>Myotismon>VenomMyotismon, The DNA Digivoltuion/Jorgress that gave me Icedevimon was MagnoAngemon+Megadramon
@@LJGear Looking at my footage, I ended on MegaKabuterimon, Griffonmon, and Seraphimon.
i love this game we used to play this game and talk about it all day even bring are saves together and battle are digimon together ahh good old days. i grinded this game more than you can imagine lol. i really recomend you play digimon card battle now thats by far the best digimon game out there for the area i still go back and play must have finished it half a dozen time.
Oh man. I remember playing the versus mode as a kid, but since I was the only one with the game, we just had to use my Digimon on both sides. Reviewing the Digimon Card Battle game would be fitting with the new TCG cards out, but I'd have to get it and its not cheap. Also I remember absolutely hating it as a kid. The next Digimon video will actually be out later this week though.
The two times in my life that I beat this game, my save game was 99+ hours. It's insane.
I can believe it
Even though I have nostalgia for this game, I agree with it's listed flaws. Still never understood people calling it hard though. You don't even need to achieve the mega tier in this game to win. You only need the ultimate tier with just 3 moves. Duo haxclaw, Tidal Wave, and HP recovery.
Get those 3 moves and you win. Don't even need items and the only remotely challenging fight will be the final coliseum battle which restricts item usage. Fitting for the only endgame fight that posed a challenge. The rest of them were crap. At least Final GAIA had a good ost.
Thanks. Yeah, though I never even had Tidal Wave or HP recovery. I only died once due to confusion hacks literally never ending.
I hear you.. I totally do.. but I just love this game because of the nostalgia and when I got back to it, it felt good to play but the grind was so bad. Is there any game you recommend that did this but in a better way? The only game I could think of that is close to it and i enjoyed was persona 5
I understand. Well DW2 is apart of the "Dungeon" series of games so Pokemon Mystery Dungeon might be a good pick, though I haven't played it myself.
@@InfiniteComboReviews I like the style of more than one character I'm a turn-based game and that's what I'm looking for.
Some friends recommended I try xcom but when I saw videos I didn't find it similar. It was still interesting
@@Moodyto Oh. You're looking for turn based combat. I'd say any older Final Fantasy should do the trick. I'd go with FF7.
Grew up playing this in the 2000's, couldn't beat it back then because i was young but later on i did
Yeah. This game was too rough for me as a kid, even with the strategy guide.
For me personally, it wasn't so much that it was too rough to get through, but more so too tedious and boring, so I eventually gave up on it pretty early on. Having said that, I did have the patience to figure out the first game and would even go so far as to say that I got to be pretty good at it (I'm hoping to eventually get the chance to go back to it again someday soon for the sake of nostalgia), but I just didn't have the patience for Digimon World 2. The fact that the dungeons all felt the same (as was mentioned in this video) didn't really make things any better, but more than anything else made me feel how bland this game truly is
@@matthewkuscienko4616 I understand. Digimon World 1 is my favorite so far.
I was so disappointed when my mom rented this for me from blockbuster I played it for maybe 2 hours before I was bored. I loved the first game
I flat out bought it day 1 so I can understand your pain.
I didn't touch any Digimon World game since Digimon World. I guess with World 2 I did a good choice. The second Digimon game that disappointed me was Rumble Arena 2, because Rumble Arena was awesome and 2 was broken. I recall digivolving being punishing since the new form plays way to different at times, is slow and an easy attack target.
Once you unlock the broken boss digimon, you just spam stuff like the spinning attack of Diablomon or the Laser beams of Duskmon. Such a shame, I liked the idea of using more forms on a Digimon like transforming in various forms in Dragon Ball games.
I love the editing in this video.
Yeah, the only other Digimon game I've played is the TCG game on PS1. Though intend to go through more in the future. Thanks.
Dang, even in the games Leomon cant catch a break.
Poor guy really can't.
I have so many fond memories of this game but I haven't played it since I was a kid... now I don't think I'll be revisiting. 😂 But thanks for the nostalgic trip!
Lol. Well if you do have that itch again, all of the comments I've gotten say that emulation with the speed up feature does the game wonders.
I spent a long time wondering but now I know, seadramon + greymon = veemon. It’s basically the game of life but with digimon… (encouraging smile)
Well done! I didn't have the patience to experiment to that extent.
To help with an any other confusion:
ANY "DRA"-mon plus any Dinosaur digimon should equal a Veemon. That was the game's code [exceptions being ultimates and megas combining with one another. You will probably get Veedramon or Aeroveedramon but NOT Flamedramon or Raidramon]
This is my favorite of the classic series. Sorry lol but it really makes me happy lol
No need to apologize! Like what you like! This video is just one guy's opinion at the end of the day.
I agree. This game suffers from so much slow stuff. It's great emulated since you can speed things up and fast forward through a lot of tedium, but it would have been so much better if the developers made it more fast paced in the first place. Even just shaving a few seconds of each battle turn, and/or removing the interaction with carol, would make the game feel so much better to play.
On revisiting the game, I actually like upgrading the digibeetle a lot. Kinda wish there was more to it than just getting better parts over time, but even so I like the sense of progression. Since I'm emulating it's easy to grind out the money for new parts. Basically required anyway so I have some dna digivolve stuff leveled.
I think another noteworthy flaw is how some attacks are basically worthless and some are good enough to plan to dna towards certain lines. Team attacks early on are just so good at shredding through encounters - but naturally even among those some are amazing and some are terrible.
Yeah, the general consensus seems to be that this game is at its best being played using emulation and speed ups. I think the Digibeetle upgrades could have been cool if the traps didn't feel so cheap, only getting cheaper as time went on. Also I can't say I ever planned for any kind of evolutions. I kind of just plowed through the game with brute force.
Omg i used to play this as a kid and never understood how to increase the footstep max in dungeons so i barely progressed
Yeah. It's not very kid friendly for a kids game.
thanks for this review! I just finished up Digimon Survive and loved it. Now I'm playing Digimon World 1 cause I have alot of nostalgia for it and actually like it except all the training because your digimon die. so I was curious about the rest of these games, but from what you said I'm gonna skip this one!
Thanks! Glad you liked it! I actually reviewed Digimon World 1 & 3 (though 1 is a muuuuuch older video) if you curious. Also Digimon Racing because why not?
I completed this game 5 times as kid
Impressive. I couldn't handle this game as a kid.
Played it as a kid, in Japanese without a dictionary
You mad lad.
i really loved this as a kid and would like a good remake or direct sequel. a remaster just wouldnt do because its so darn slow. but i do happen to love the dungeon crawling and beetle upgrading. its just how slow the game moves overall and how grindy it is even for a digimon game. but it kind of strikes me as motherload meets digimon meets dungeon crawler and that in theory, CAN be really good.
i do have super fond memories of this but lets be real: no one experiences time the same now as when they were a kid and the grind would probably kill it way before i reach the end.
Yeah, I hear you. This game had a lot of potential and I think the concept still does (not sure what the newer Digimon games do since I haven't played them yet). If you think the grind would be an issue, other commenters have said that the best way to play is to emulate with the speed turned up. Maybe that would work for you?
@@InfiniteComboReviews Hmm maybe that would work. I'm currently playing through CyberSleuth, which is fun, but I find myself craving some nostalgic games like World 2. Could indeed give that a try, ty :D
@@DiaborMagics Hope it works out for you.
this could have been a great game I mean it is awesome but the fact that you have to grind and watch that spinning animation everytime kinda makes the game no so enjoyable at least for me, good video
Well from what everyone in the comments have told me, playing a sped up emulation seems to be the best way to go.
@@InfiniteComboReviews I may give it a try thanks for replying :D
@@eduardoestrada4545 Good luck!
Feels like a game that needed the look/speed of the battle system in suikoden 1/2. Just picturing a battle in suikoden with the six character sprites replaced with digimon, make me say yes plz.
Haven't played any of the Suikoden games, but I've heard good things. Everyone on reddit keeps telling me Digimon World 2 is better emulated because you can use speed ups.
@@InfiniteComboReviews Yeah, If you setup a button to toggle 2x-4x speed that should help were it feels like it is dragging. I get that drag feeling alot in PS1 era games. The constant feeling of like this should take 1/2 seconds but will take 10 and it happens over and over.
I recommend you give suikoden a shot. The first one isn't that long, maybe a weekend worth of play. Here is my general thoughts on the series.
1. Good first try, snappy and sets a good base formula to work from.
2. Lets dial it up to 11
3. That snappyness you liked , yeah no....
4. Oh god it burns, was made by a different team and it shows.
5. Not as good as 2 but pretty damn good.
Between the world building, characters, themes in the first two. You could have a animated/live action show on the scale of A Song of Ice and Fire/Avater:TLAB/Lord of the Rings. A anthology series would rock. But the series is owned by Konami, and Konami is the worst....
If I was making a list of best games ever made, Suikoden 2 would be on the shortlist to rep the JRPG genre.
I have heard on multiple occasions that Suikoden 2 is a masterpiece.... and that it's expensive as hell. I have soooo many games to get to, but I'll see if I can get my hands on a copy.
@@InfiniteComboReviews If you want to get a cheap copy, best route is the psn store on PS3/Vita. You can get the first two for $6/$10.
store.playstation.com/en-us/search/suikoden
Or you can go "other "routes and play it on your PC....cough....
Lol. That makes sense. That never even occurred to me. Thanks.
For some reason World 2 skipped us folks in the PAL Region. No idea why. But atleast we got a somewhat enhanced port of World 3 called World 2003
Yeah, I found that out when I reviewed Digimon World 3. I don't think you missed out on too much though honestly.
Just wondering if you will be reviewing Digimon World 3?
Yes. I'm playing through it right now, but it's a bit tougher than I expected and apparently another 80 hour game so its probably gonna be another month or two before I finish it.
@@InfiniteComboReviews sweet thank you :)
@@Zeema Thank you for watching!
Forgot to mention that if you dont evolve them at the right level they wont learn the new moves that comes with the evolution. I remember the grind being bad I do wish they remaster it just so I could play through it. Never got a chance to pass any of these world 1-3 just because I was to young to get through them properly.
Also I believe depending on how many times you dna digivolve the evolution would change for some cause of the dp value.
Was the level specific or was it just before they couldn't evolve any further? I was never sure.
@@InfiniteComboReviews so If I remember right the evolution levels were 11,21,31 and like say you kept training a rookie till like lvel 21 instead of evolving them then I think they wouldnt learn their champion moves cause they usually learned it sometime between 11-21 if I remember right I could be wrong. As for the Dp that was like points for everytime you dna digivolved and havent a certain number effected digimons like veemon who could digivolve into veedramon and flamedramon
@@InfiniteComboReviews i hated the level caps i remember when I played it I thought the game broke. Like whats going on!!! You definitely right on how the game doesnt you how to do things sadly 😭
@@nightwolf235 Yeah, you're right about the levels. I distinctly remember that stupid mechanic.
Digimon forever!
Woooot!!!!
Fun video, keep it up!
Thanks a lot! Will do!
I loved how many digimon characters you can get
Yeah. That was cool
I disagree, Digimon 1's combat is much better then this when you figure out that raising the brain stat lets you command your digimon better.
Yeah, but that takes soooo long to reach.
@@InfiniteComboReviews Eh, not when you use stuff like cherrymon's training and training boosters.
Literally every digimon I had in the run I recently did had enough brains to use specific techniques.
And honestly, training in that game doesnt put me to sleep like PLAYING this one.
@@arcadius3257 Yeah, but those are late game features, especially if you don't already know about that mechanic. I think DW1 would have been way better if the combat was like that out the gate, though I can see how DW2 can be boring too.
@@InfiniteComboReviews Yeah I suppose thats fair.
I do gain access to them faster because I know how to, a new player isn't going to have that same experience unless they look it up/
So fair enough.
I loved this game, but yeah it required so much to beat it. I just wished they didn’t make cyber sleuth so bad that I couldn’t find a game that could beat this one.
I have not gotten to Cyber Sleuth yet, but I'm hoping to sooner than later.
@@InfiniteComboReviews I don’t wanna spoil anything, but my one issue is that some of my high level 100 mega Digimon cannot one shot kill some rookie Digimon. The leveling up system is linear and so the stats just move up like a line not based on strength like Pokémon. It’s hard to explain, but you will notice when you play it.
@@KoreanChocoBoy Interesting. I look forward to seeing for myself, though that's not what the next Digimon video is going to be on.
I love digimon world 1 and 2. it always felt like dinocrisis 1 and 2. both are so different but still enjoyable. are they perfect god no.
I've never played the Dino Crisis games, though I'd like to.
great review :D
Thank you!
Honestly, in digimon world 2, I wouldn't mind the digi beetle and de digivolving so much if the beetle maintenance was much cheaper and de digivolving just required one digimon and each mon learned their own moves.
Plus carrying multiples of the same item just took 1 slot.
Like say Terra force would be the heavy hitti g super power move for Wargreymon.
Say he also learns mega claw to reduce the opponent's defense for more punishment n' all.
These ideas would've made this game MUCH more enjoyable.
Heck maybe also trade in unwanted old moves for new ones that up power and/or heal.
Also get rid of the stupid level caps
@@InfiniteComboReviews I dunno. The level caps kinda give an excuse. Like say you could actually CHOOSE your evolutions after you unlock them
@@InfiniteComboReviews I could maybe talk ideas about maybe a nee digimon game like a complete reworking of this or something if ypu'd like
@@bluewulv I guess. I haven't played past this game yet, so I don't know what the later titles are like. It might already exist.
@@bluewulv The level caps are what force you to take a solid Digimon and reset them. That's why I hate them.
It's nowhere near as good as the first game, you're right. But I like a good grind here or there. That's basically all Runescape is and people LOVE that game
That's fair. I personally just don't care to much for grinding.
Iv never been able to get past the second fight
Oof
Im still playing this game to this day, it's my favorite Digimon game out there. A modern update is very much needed, the concept is brilliant but poorly executed. If i recall correctly it was actually supposed to be for the ps2, but the ps2 wasnt gonna be ready for the holidays so they changed it to be a ps1 game to hit that holiday rush. With my adhd this game actually is great because it forces me to focus in in order to not mess up and lose everything. My only issue is iv spent two decades trying to get Omnimon in this game, and have yet to succeed.
20 years. Wow. That's dedication! Yeah a remake would be cool. I doubt it was supposed to be for PS2 since a 3rd game came out on the PS1.
@@InfiniteComboReviews a lot of things blend together in my head, so im probably wrong on the console thing. 20 years on and off i should say, was a long while when i couldnt play it because i couldnt find a real copy and didnt have internet access at the time
@@aceundead4750 I feel that. I had the game as a kid but traded it in sadly. I re-bought it at a con for this video a few years ago for $30. At the same con this year, it was $120. Crazy.
@@InfiniteComboReviews i luckily found it and world 3 at Disc Traders near where i live. Idk if you have Disc Traders/Disc Replay stores where you live but if you dont it's a franchise line of game/electronics resellers
@@aceundead4750 Nah. Nothing like that near me
I had forgotten the insane grind
Yeah, it's pretty rough.
I HATED this game for one reason. Digimon world 1 was everything I wanted from a digimon game and I was excited to play the same game but updated with new digimon and a new world, and I got this...what the hell happened between 1 and 2
Probably the same thing that happened between 2 and 3 and 3 and 4. I literally just beat DW3 yesterday and its a completely different game and from what I've seen of DW4, it is too. I've heard that the newer titles are very akin to DW2, but none are like DW1 unfortunately.
@@InfiniteComboReviews I actually just read that in an interview in March of this year, the game producer said a remaster of DW1 was a positive possibility
@@WithTheBears That would be awesome! And I could see it happening with how well Digimon has been doing in general.
Currently playing the Hard Mod on an emulator with toggle framerate, the gameplay is totally unfair.
Yeah, its seems like the consensus among the commentors. Use an emulator with speed up. Also no thanks to hard mode.
The worst rhing is that this game COULD have been good.
The battle system is better and variety of evolutions.
But the car and the dna evolve system hold it back BIG TIME
Oh absolutely! There was so much potential here. Plus the plot twist at the end was actually pretty neat.
@@InfiniteComboReviews Ehhhh.. I didn't really carr for the matrix plot. Would have preferred it like bad stuff made some mons and humans crazy and you gotta set things right or something
@@bluewulv But that was the plot of Digimon World 1.
@@InfiniteComboReviews Fair enough. Just hearing that the whole thing was just in our minds feels a bit..... Lame..
At least to me. I would've liked it to be a future where humans just live in the digital world honestly
I hear you, but since it came out of nowhere, it felt like a solid twist that I just didn't expect.
I'm 200+ hrs in and I still haven't completed the game yet 😂
Holy crap! You must be powerful thougg
@@InfiniteComboReviews yes definitely over powered now. Bosses aren't hard it's just grinding through the dungeons 😅
@@prydepythons True true. Though aside from confusion status effects, most fights are pretty easy.
I love this game!
Enjoy what you enjoy. More power to you.
I’m glad I didn’t buy it for 80 bucks at Bookoff
Yeah. I saw it for $30 at the last con I went to and prices were already jacked up there.
hah gave up on this game too, mainly because of the 99999999xp cap and having to grind again. not fun
Oh, I didn't give up. I beat this beast for the review. I just said screw the bonus end game dungeon.
how can anyone like DW2?
I know a guy who loves it, mainly due to the evolution mechanics
This review is the product of the microwave generation. I love the grind and repetitiveness of the the dungeon crawlers
The mircrowave generation? Can't say I've heard that one before.
@@InfiniteComboReviews it refers to how kids nowadays want instant gratification without doing all the leg work. Ps it took a whole year to finally get this on my retro device but I'm enjoying even more now than I did almost 20yrs ago 😁
@@prydepythons I mean....I'm 35 so I don't think I'm apart of that generation and I grew up with RPGs, particularly the PS1 era, but the grinding in this game is just too much.
Each to their own bud.
I liked Digimon Mystery dungeon 😂
Nothing wrong with that. It has its charm.
Yup a lot better quality in this video. So the game is like tiny tank and super Mario RPG fused together with the power of a radioactive toilet... seems legit to me I'm gonna play cyber sleuth at least that one tries better
Yes. Do that. Cyber Sleuth is on my to play/review list too.
@@InfiniteComboReviews gonna watch that one in a bit lol
@@InfiniteComboReviews I beaten it a while ago and rn I'm working on the sequel
@@jaredpeacemaker795 Lol. No I mean it's on my to do list. Haven't played it yet.
@@InfiniteComboReviews haha gotcha
Never was a fan of mystery dungeon type games tbh
anyway, i assume the next digimon game you'll review is world 3....
well
i suggest going with the alternative version called world 2003, which is basically an updated version of the game with some bugfixes etc
Yeah. Can't say the mystery dungeon games are high up there for me either. This is the first in hearing of Digimon 2003 so I'll have to look into it. Thanks!
GameShark made this game worthwhile.
Yeah, the chat keeps mentioning how the games waaaaaay better with cheats.
I just used it for infinite BITS.
@@vontailor7396 I hear that the popular choice is a speed up on roms
still a 10/10 for me
Cool. As long as you have fun.
When dw2 was released, I expected a better version of dw1, more maps, digimons, improved mechanics, etc. Instead, they delivered this hot pile of turd that is dw2, the game itself was pure grind and a wasted opportunity to make a franchise of the series.
Yeah, it's super odd how different all the Digimon World games are from each other.
Digimon basement 2
Lol