If only I had found about the 32mm a bit sooner.... but my 22mm f2 is also not bad. Meanwhile, I have never used the standard 15-45mm anymore since months.
Gordon Laing i got my M50 in May, and have taken less than 50 shots with my 5D4 since. I was lucky i had a few good L lenses and never intended to get any M lenses, but when the 32mm came along I couldn’t resist. Normally I’d use my 5D4 a lot during our winter months, better ISO and better lenses etc, but the 32mm f/1.4 is so sharp ive managed to keep using my M50 though this time
Saw a video comparing sigma30mm vs canon 32mm. For me, Looks: canon 32mm Light weight: canon32mm Low Price: sigma 30mm Fast: sigma 30mm Quality: both So, if looks and weight won't matter to you, I think sigma 30mm is the best choice
I use my EF 50mm 1.8 with a Viltrox Speed Booster and im able to get an F1.2 50mm (actually 56mm) this way. I prefer the 50mm for portraits but i think the EF-M 22mm is a great lense for almost any situation.
This lens caused me to keep my M5. It renders quite well IMO. Now if they would add a 60MM F1.8 and a 15MM F2, the M5 would become a near perfect walk around travel system.
15-17mm would be great - narrow angle is simple to simulate by crop (with 24Mpx and sharp lense no problem) so wide lens would be way more usefull as universal walkaround/street lens than 35 (22) or 50 (32) eq. lenses. And I miss longer portrait and macro lens for M (at least 60, better 85-100/2.8 - but it would be the probably similar to EF lenses, no advantage in size/weight so there is no reason to make it for EF-M).
Appreciate the comparisons you provide at the end of the film! Currently debating between the Sony system w/Sigma 16mm F1.2 or the M6 markii w/ EFM 35mm F1.4
I really appreciate your very clear, in depth explanations of the lenses. I also most appreciate the **split screen** comparisons of lenses! It made things very clear for the viewer to compare any subtle differences. Really well presented, thank you!!!
Hi Gordon. Love your detailed videos and find them really informative. I am planning to buy a 50 mm effective focal length lens. I am confused between the sigma 30 1.4 canon mount and this canon 32 mm 1.4. Which one do you recommend? Is it worth paying the extra 180 dollars for the canon efm lens ?
Amazing example shots in this video. I have a Canon 22mm f/2 and want to upgrade my lens collection. This is the next lens because the photos seen in this video are really impressive. I also have a Sony A7m3 but I use a small Canon m50 mark II more often, it’s really fun and compact.
You should really try the focal reducer Viltrox EF-EOS M2 which I use for photography, it works pretty well with any EF lens other than the super wide angle lenses (after having turned the glass bits because the QC on the adapter is bad and out of the box I couldn't focus to infinity). The results are pretty good with my 50mm 1.4, my 24-70 f/2.8 (I) L lens and my 85 1.8 ... And gaining one stop is pretty cool, the 50mm 1.4 becomes a 55mm f/1! Also, because you are adopting Canon on Canon and the adapter doesn't need a chip to translate the data exchanged between the lens and the camera body, you get full speed AF and no compatibility issue. Lastly every EF lens you own becomes two lenses as they can be adapted with focal reducer or with the lens adapter with crop which allows for a pretty light camera bag.
@@jackseb0056 well it is not neutral but the effect can be unnoticeable or catastrophic, it depends on the lens. With my wide angles 17mm and 20mm (full frame) it doesn't work . With my 50mm, 85mm it works very well, seems to work ok with my 24-70L but not tested thoroughly and I haven't tested with my long tele lens just because too big to walk around with such a small camera attached. In summary, not perfect (don't think it could be) but so so so worth the money. Apparently Canon is about to make one but not sure they can do much better and it will be much more expensive ... Wait and see.
@@cameralabs All I want them to make are three lenses; a 10-20mm f/2.8 for video, an 85mm f/1.8 and an 18-300mm all-around zoom lens. I know I am asking too much.
@@snowwalker9999 18-150 is bad enough, who need even worse 18-300 ? I want 15-45/4 or 15-45/2,8 with low CA, better than acceptable distorsion and vignetting and good transfer of colors and contrast to use real pottencial of M5/M50 sensor !
i have the 15-45 and to be honest i prefer the depth of field at 32on the kit, 1.4 is too fine, with the example at 2:45 i liked the fact all of you is in focus, rather than the 32 prime with your shoulders out of focus, one of the reasons i won't be getting any more M mounts for my M50 is the lack of M mount x2 converters and tubes. since i got the sigma 100-400 for the M50 and now have 2 2x verters and several tubes (at 100mm the siggy does 5mm macro! 1:4.4) i'll stick to finding ef glass. i still use the m mount lenses alot for compact when i just have a shoulder bag, i use the 22mm pancake as a body blank so i always reay to shoot from stowed away. if you know of any 2x teleconverters m mount to m mount i'd be very interested
This combo of M50 & 32mm produces some of the best images I’ve seen ... shame canon didn’t just scale up the M50 for better battery life and bigger hands
@@cameralabs M5 seems to me a bit better for photo work - it's a pitty its more expensive than M50 (why ?). I hope M5 II will be soon and it will be bigger body !
RAj Curry The whole point of the M range is it’s small size; so why on earth are you talking about scaling it up! If you want a scaled up camera, buy an EOS DSLR!
If it is too small, get the body cover: eh32‑cj it gives a better grip. I got mine as a kit. cdn.cnetcontent.com/0a/05/0a050220-f0f6-4493-b0e6-afe51f2ffc76.jpg Strangely it does snot come in black but the brown looks pretty cool especially with a brow strap which I also got. Third party batteries are cheap and they are 100% compatible. Same does not apply to M5/M6. The reason I bought M50 was partially related to having already three batteries from the M. With M5/6 I would have had to spend 70 € for an extra battery.
@@bh69videa M5 has three wheels, M50 one. These kind of mechanical features cost. I think they will not bring M5 Mark II, and focus on the M6 Mark II as the top model. The whole idea of M series is to be small. The body cover is a simple way to increase the size. It adds 7 mm to the bottom and 3 mm to the side. At least on my hands it gives support to the middle finger. There are also third party solutions: canon-eos-m50-battery-grip.bujacze.com/
Good video as usual, you covered a lot here. It is a nice lens overall. I've been using the 32mm since the first day of release in the USA. I'm not super thrilled with how the AF is set-up in this 32mm and the 22mm, but they work well enough. At first I was confused why they designed this lens to focus so close for its focal length, but in practice it is really useful. Thankfully it has the limiter switch! That makes the price a litter easier to swallow. The 32mm and the 22mm help out with making the M50 and M100 I use serviceable for more situations without adapting anything.
This is a good lens, and I've been so tempted to buy it However!… not too impressed with the focus speed, the price made me hesitate, and as a multiplemediamanager, i.e video as well as photography, the IS is important. I use to own the Canon EF 35mm f2.0 USM IS, and it was brilliant. I sold it to get the EF 35mm f1.4L, to use for photography a few years back when I was building my holy trinity of L's. I remember though, that 35mm 2.0 lens was clean, quick, and quite light. Given the choice between getting the EFM 32, and rebuying the EF 35 IS, I think I would rather go for the one with IS. Plus as an EF lens, I can still use it with my other Cameras 5D, 6D, 7D… Good review, but in short, it's too expensive, and not quick enough in my opinion.
Finally! (unfortunately, I am no longer faithful :[] I used to use the 22mm prime bcuz it meant the camera actually fit in my pocket. Not the sharpest lens tho. It is "water-proof," according to my tests, using it in the rain; I went inside when the touch screen was too wet to function. The M50 is so affordable now; with this lens, it's a perfect combination for "camera-always-with-you-photography."
It's a pretty nice review. Just received mine for the eos m6 and for the 1st couple of shots i've done with it, i was quite enjoying it but still need to be tested in depth. It's good also to show the alternative with the adapter and the nifty 50. Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Hi Gordon, glad you made the review. I have this lens and optically It is one of the best 50 equivalent lenses for any system as well as being light and compact. Isn't it much easier to review a lens that's nearly perfect?
Aside from the extra stop, how does this compare to a nifty fifty on an adapter? I've already got both, and I'd hate to spend almost $400 to get something that requires 2 magnifying glasses and 2 out of 3 experts to see a difference...
I orginally commented on this review and just complained about the price. However I am a fan of Gordon's reviews so some months back I picked up one of these lenses and from an admittedly limited number of native lenses, this really is a very good lens is a real pleasure to use and immediately replaced my 22mm as my favourite for this system.
How did you take the shot at 11:48 of the book text? I mean the focal point being a line like that? I have the 32mm F1.4 EF-M lens, but I can't get it looking like that
I bought this lens about few months ago. For what it is, I would not consider it expensive. The LumixLeica 25mm f/1,4 Mk2 for the Micro4/3 system is even more expensive.
I wonder if ever Canon will bother to produce an affordable full frame 50mm f/1.4 lens for EF or RF mount. The existing Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM is ages old.
I have the m50, as well as the Canon EF 50mm lens and adapter, and love the images I can get with it, but do find a lot of times that it is too zoomed in for me. I feel like this could be a great middle ground, but it's so dang expensive... gonna sleep on it.
The 15-45 isn't too bad in good light but not using it to much now. Just ordered the 22mm f2, got the nifty f1.8 with the Viltrox adapter, do I really need this 32mm at that price, no but I want one and the f1.4 is very attractive, one day maybe. What I'd really like just now is the EF 100mm f2.8 L Macro IS USM , yummy. Excellent review Gordon, have subbed..
Hello Gordon. May I "bother" you with a question - maybe you have experience with it? I bought a used Canon EF-M 11-22mm lens from eBay classifieds. Now is problematic: What about lamellas whose alloy is partially like "chipped off" and seem eaten up? Can that be damage from a fall or impact - with otherwise normal and inconspicuous image quality? The slats are not oily. Not a fungus. Remote diagnosis is of course difficult. Viewed with a magnifying glass: Some of the lamellas seem to have slipped and the alloy seems to have been pitted. Some of them are not smooth at the edge but rather deformed and frayed. These look rusty. Water damage? The problem is that the seller is from Italy and does not show any reaction to my inquiries. Greetings Chris
Hi Chris, I'm not sure what you mean by lamellas? It's possible it may have been damaged or is worn, but if you're happy with the image quality and the price, it could be acceptable. it depends on what condition it was sold to you.
5:10 I thought that taking photos of the sun destroys a camera? When you use a DSLR it would also destroy your eye when looking through the optical viewfinder.
@@cameralabs I decided to give it a chance and I bought the lens. I hesitated to get the 22mm, then it ended up being my favorite lens. Now I'm giving it's younger sibling a chance to impress too. Taking portraits indoors on a 50mm gives such a shallow DOF that I need to narrow the aperture so much to get someone's entire head in focus that the low light performance of the 50mm f/1.8 suffers. Here's hoping the 32mm balances variables better for my use case.
I have the nifty fifty with adapter as well as the kit lens and wondering if this lens will do a better job than my 50mm f1.8 for an all purpose lens. I like to go to car shows and with the 50mm I need to be 10-15 feet away to capture the whole subject. Will the native 32mm be a better option in this situation?
Native or adapted, the focal length doesn't change, so a 32 will be roughly two thirds the magnification of a 50. Things will appear two thirds the size from the same distance.
@@cameralabs thanks for the info! If I understand correctly, I can be 1/3 closer to my subject with the 32mm vs the 50mm for the same captured image size
I have the Kit-lens. What is the improvement for landscape photography? In your video I see the bokeh is much better. But is it sharper - or does it have other Advantages? Because it i not so cheap I want to know what I can expect....
@@wickie4801 but you have to ask yourself if this focal length is right for your landscape photos as for most people it would be too long. I would prefer a wider lens, like the 11-18mm. So do check to see how much you shoot at or near to 32mm before buying.
Hi Gordon, This was a very good review I have ti say! You included IQ and build quality and you just made me think about buying it.. It is funny though because except for the old and good EOS M Ihave the new R so I am not sure if I shoukd go with the RF 35 1.8 or this 32 lens fir the EOS M? I know I can get better pics with the R and RF but the M is so much smaller and lighter so I can carry it literally anywhere. What do you think? What would you do?
Well, remember 32mm on the EOS M will become closer to 50mm, so it depends if you'd prefer a 35 or a 50. If I had an EOS R though, I'd get the RF 35mm f1.8, I'm very fond of that lens.
The SIGMA 30mm F1.4 DC DN is just around the corner with a more attractive price tag. On the Sony mount the Sigma is said to be stunning. Could become quite a hard competition for the EF-M 32mm... What does Gordon think..?
Thanks! What would you like to see? I think there's enough zooms, so I'd like to see more primes, probably a 50mm next for an 80mm-ish equivalent. Either that or we could twist Sigma's arm into doing EF-M versions of its APSC lenses! Plus an EOS M50 equivalent with IBIS and uncropped 4k please!
Thanks for the thorough review. Do you think Canon is going to continue developing lenses for the EOS-M line given how slow it has been to date and how it's now focussing (pun intended) on the EOS-R cameras and RF lenses? I wonder if this might be the last.
That's the big question. They deliberately intro'd this lens on the day of the EOS R launch to show they were still committed to / supporting EOS M. But even if they proceed at the same pace they have to date, I wouldn't expect more than one EF-M lens a year if at all. And if they slow down, then there'll be even less. It's a real shame EOS R isn't compatible in the same way Sony's e-mount is. But we can only speculate. Put it this way, I think there WILL be more EOS M products, but I wouldn't buy into it counting on a particular new lens to arrive.
@@FrasSmith I'll be reviewing the RP soon, although like the EOS M, it doesn't have a huge amount of native lenses yet... that said, Canon should match the number of EF-M lenses in the RF mount by the end of the first year of that system!
Would this work lovely on the canon eos m6 mark ii? I’ve been seeing a lot of comments about it being great on the m50 but not on the m6 Mark ii . Thank you so much♥️ 📸
Doesn't the fact that it is a crop sensor change the aperture? From a 1.4 to 2.2? I know that's still good but I am new to this and wondering. Thank you for the content.
In terms of light gathering and exposure, f1.4 is f1.4, but in terms of equivalent depth of field, this lens becomes equivalent to using a 52mm f2.2 on a full-frame body.
Is the lens supposed to give the subject a bit of blur? I notice when it zooms in on you it isn't sharp all the way across, part of your body is blurred.
love the weight of the efm lenses with the speedbooster theres an ef v efm equation the efm 28 macro looks tempting also the ef 24 think the 22 efm v ef 24 speedboosted real conundrum for m users love a pros and cons ef speedboosted v efm nice f1.4 this one have an wide/ macro adaptor that works on many lenses with step up ring would make this wider
Hey Gordon This video was stunning. I'm a beginner looking to take things to the next level. I create RUclips videos and I'm looking to upgrade from my kit Len's in the canon M6 Is this really good for videos as it is for photos?
please tell me the price of canon m50 with Canon 32mm f/1.4 EF-M and i have herd that if we buy Canon 32mm f/1.4 EF-M the price will be less the actual price is it true ?????? which one is better for portrait photography canon 32 mm 1.4 or canon 50mm 1.8???
Thanks for the review! How do you feel this compares with the sigma 30/1.4? So how would you compare eos-m body with the 32/1.4 V a6xxx body with sigma 30/1.4? thanks again!
Remember there's TWO versions of the Sigma 30mm f1.4, but I assume you mean the Canon EF version. Unhelpfully I've not tested either, but hope to at some point.
@@cameralabs the sigma 30/1.4 for e-mount is one of my favourite lenses (I know you tested the 56mm 1.4 recently). I'd certainly be interested to see how it compares as it's my most used setup on an a6300. Looking at your review the sigma performs much better for eye-af on the a6300 but I suspect that's because the a6300 is a higher end body as much as the lens
Well, i thinking about to buy one but not sure which one, this 32mm or the 50mm with adapter to make it fit to the M50. The 32mm is quite expensive with 480 Eur and the 50mm inkl. adapter is over 250 Euro... so ist there a big difference between 32mm and 50mm?
Well they're completely different focal lengths, so it depends what you want to use it for. The 50 on the EOS M becomes around 80mm, so a portrait lens, whereas the 32 becomes around 50mm for a more general-purpose option.
@@cameralabs I would use it for portraits or blur pictures basically, the portraits with 15-45mm are not really fine. So, it might be better to take the 50mm?
@@sebastianj4549 for portraits DEFINITELY get the EF 50mm f1.8 STM with the adapter. PS - if you're ordering online, please consider going through my links here or at cameralabs.com thanks!
@@sebastianj4549 PS - in my M50 review at cameralabs I show a comparison between the 15-45mm and the 50mm for portraits - scroll down this page to see it: www.cameralabs.com/canon-eos-m50-review/
Nice review, although as you were spouting out those various lenses and their specs and prices, I have to say, I got lost early on. Canon has been slow to the market with wide aperture lenses, favoring narrow apertures, like a 24-70 L lens with f4? WHAT ??? That's crazy. If one is going to spend that kind of money, they should have wide options. I've never used anything but Canon lenses and Canon cameras even wore a Canon hat, missing options for wider apertures in affordable options, I purchased a Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 and WOW what an amazing positive experience.
if you are shooting things that are close, use the full. If you are shooing things farther away use the restricted one and your AF is supposed to be faster because it will not get distracted.
Thanks for your review, Im planning to buy this camera. Which lenses are the most recommended? Gonna start RUclips channel plus i have instagram fashion page which im taking flatlays for and maybe som modells. I did research about EF m15-45 EF m 22 EF m 11-22 EF m 32 EF m 50-200 I have a budget of 2500 dollar but not sure about how many lenses m gonna need or is it better you use speed shutter with other Efs lenses? Regards
If your budget is that high, dont get the eos m50. Get a full frame camera instead and start off with the kit lens and a 50mm 1.8 lens. Then use the spare cash on tripods, batteries, SD cards and other accessories :)
I still don't know why people are buying ef-m lenses.. just get an ef->ef-m adaptor and buy an EF lens... ef-m is a dead mount and you're going to want to be able to take your EF lenses with you onto RF :V
Get this, much more compact and there has been focusing issues on the Sigma though I do not know if they apply to mirrorless cameras, camerasize.com/compact/#776.791,776.379.2,ha,t The Sigma with the adapter is 900 grams, this is 235 grams.
@@AgusRiyantoazel for low light and greater blurring in the background, you need a lens with a smaller f-number, so for the EF-M system, that means either the EF-M 32mm f1.4 or the EF-M 22mm. If you're ok with something that's as long as your kit zoom at 45mm, then go for the EF 50mm f1.8 and adapt it. So choose which focal length would be best for you using your zoom, either 22mm, 32mm or 50mm, then go for one of those.
Is there a cheaper knock off version anywhere? I would be curious to compare that personally...whoops I asked too soon. Thanks for the cheaper alternatives. I just need a lens for a blurred background for portraits. Using eos m 100.
As ever Gordon a very good practical review. I have an M6 and 4 lenses as a travel/casual carry kit and this includes the f2 22mm M lens which is very useful and whilst this 32 looks an excellent bit of kit because for me my M6 is a "secondary system" I'm not sure that I can convince myself that £500 is a justified spend :)
Glad you enjoyed it! Yes, it is a bit more expensive than I'd like it to be - but then what isn't?! Hopefully the street prices will fall over time. It is a nice lens for the system.
@@cameralabs I just picked up the M50 with kit lens + the... 55 - 200? I think that's it? But I feel my next purchase will certainly be this! The bokeh is super hot! I really appreciate your comparison! :D X
Canon has really dragged its feet on producing EF-M lenses and now with the release of their full frame mirrorless cameras I would expect this trend to get even worse--assuming Canon does not completely drop this line-up altogether. On the upside my M3 still makes a terrific travel camera and the EF-M lenses that do exist can be had for relatively low prices on Ebay.
@@cameralabs With mirrorless cameras becoming all the rage (I still prefer my DSLRs) maybe the crop sensor DSLRs could potentially be on the chopping block. I have shot as a hobbyist with Canon cameras for well over a decade but one BIG criticism I have is that they seem to spread their resources thin releasing many camera bodies instead of creating a few superior ones. Contrast the sluggish release of EF-M mount lenses of various qualities with that of the R line--all extremely high end glass with more to be released soon.
500 usd for a native 32mm f1.4 or use a 100$ speed booster adaptor and 100$ nifty fifty 50mm f1.8 (boosted to f1.4) and that lens I can share with EF,EFS, R camera....hmmmm….
@@cameralabs i'm starting travel vlogg (not on this channel) i will buy the 10-18mm for sure with viltrox on m50(so i will have the adapter in any case). i know she is heavy but 15-35mm sigma look outstanding for maybe shooting inside the hotel room and getting this cinematic vibe i can't really find alternative and i know m50 suffering from low light problem. interesting option was actually 35mm yongnuo with speed booster viltrox someone had real awesome result issue is it's noisy or like you suggested the 35mm canon with adapter. the 32mm have amazing result with c-log i think its completely look way better than the "right out of the box"
Gordon - If those prices are correct then we Brits are getting SKINNED! I know the pound has dropped a lot compared to other currencies but charging US $479 and GBP499 seems a hell of a rip off.
Remember the UK prices include tax at 20%, whereas the US prices do not include their sales tax. Also remember the US is a MUCH bigger market so in sheer volume they can order more and enjoy greater discount. And finally, thanks to Brexit, our exchange rate is poor, so we're getting stuffed on that too.
It's like half the price to get a EF-EOS M Adapter and an EF 50mm f1.8 STM and then you can use other EF lenses... I still think it's just so dumb that they created a new mount for the mirrorless range
Well remember 50mm is longer than 32mm, so it's a different type of coverage. The fairer comparison would be against one of the EF 35mm lenses, and even then the focusing on the native lens will be quicker and often quieter, while the physical size will be smaller too. But I agree, it can be cheaper to adapt.
The whole point if a mirrorless camera is to have smaller flange focal distance. You want to eat the cake and have it too. The small flange focal distance allows 22 mm f/2.0 instead of 24 mm f/2.8. If you ant a camera with 44 mm flange focal distance you can buy a DSLR. The 22 mm f/2.0 reaches just 42 mm from the sensor. That is less than the flange focal distance of a DSLR. 50 mm is different from 32 mm. I have 22 mm and 50 mm and I would like this 32 mm, though it currently is little too expensive for me.
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Nice. That is delightfully small and light. This just made the M series a lot more attractive.
If only I had found about the 32mm a bit sooner....
but my 22mm f2 is also not bad.
Meanwhile, I have never used the standard 15-45mm anymore since months.
if you get a m42 adapter i recomend buying as many zenit and helios lenses you can get (especially the 44mm f2 lens)
i prefer the f2 22mm as its a smaller pancake lens
indeed! 22mm is so practical
Ive had this lens since Oct, and its hardly left my M50. In fact this combo has almost sealed the fate of my 5D4.
Glad you like it! If I had an EOS M I think I'd use this most of the time.
Gordon Laing i got my M50 in May, and have taken less than 50 shots with my 5D4 since. I was lucky i had a few good L lenses and never intended to get any M lenses, but when the 32mm came along I couldn’t resist. Normally I’d use my 5D4 a lot during our winter months, better ISO and better lenses etc, but the 32mm f/1.4 is so sharp ive managed to keep using my M50 though this time
@@davebassP5 it's really nice when you find a system that unexpectedly works well for you.
The difference in quality between these lenses is stunning.
Best reviews in the business. Thanks for the great overview! Told me everything I needed to know.
You're very welcome! You may also enjoy this latest video I made about Sigma lenses for EOS M cameras: ruclips.net/video/n355w4uEZLY/видео.html
The 32mm really is a jackpot for the EF-M mount. Sharpness even wide open is stunning and the flexibility for low light use is added benefit.
It's a lovely lens, I just wish it had arrived sooner!
I would love to see an optical comparison between this and the sigma (A) 30mm, or the Sigma 18-35mm
Saw a video comparing sigma30mm vs canon 32mm.
For me,
Looks: canon 32mm
Light weight: canon32mm
Low Price: sigma 30mm
Fast: sigma 30mm
Quality: both
So, if looks and weight won't matter to you, I think sigma 30mm is the best choice
Hi GG, nice but as a Canon eos m user (I have three) even I feel it's too little too late and at £400 too expensive. £250-£300, maybe.
Yeah it would be much nicer at 2/3 the price...
this is a new king of crop (non-L) lens, awesome lens
I use my EF 50mm 1.8 with a Viltrox Speed Booster and im able to get an F1.2 50mm (actually 56mm) this way. I prefer the 50mm for portraits but i think the EF-M 22mm is a great lense for almost any situation.
同意，我用22足够了
This lens caused me to keep my M5. It renders quite well IMO. Now if they would add a 60MM F1.8 and a 15MM F2, the M5 would become a near perfect walk around travel system.
15-17mm would be great - narrow angle is simple to simulate by crop (with 24Mpx and sharp lense no problem) so wide lens would be way more usefull as universal walkaround/street lens than 35 (22) or 50 (32) eq. lenses. And I miss longer portrait and macro lens for M (at least 60, better 85-100/2.8 - but it would be the probably similar to EF lenses, no advantage in size/weight so there is no reason to make it for EF-M).
Sigma now have a 56mm f1.4
Appreciate the comparisons you provide at the end of the film! Currently debating between the Sony system w/Sigma 16mm F1.2 or the M6 markii w/ EFM 35mm F1.4
Likewise! Let me know what you end up deciding (and why).
Had this lens been available a couple of years ago, I may well have bought into the EOS-M system. Too late for me now, but happy for Canon users.
Yes I think they left it rather late...
I really appreciate your very clear, in depth explanations of the lenses. I also most appreciate
the **split screen** comparisons of lenses! It made things very clear for the viewer to compare any subtle differences. Really well presented, thank you!!!
Thanks! It's hard work to do, but I think most useful!
Hi Gordon. Love your detailed videos and find them really informative. I am planning to buy a 50 mm effective focal length lens. I am confused between the sigma 30 1.4 canon mount and this canon 32 mm 1.4. Which one do you recommend? Is it worth paying the extra 180 dollars for the canon efm lens ?
Thanks, I've been searching for a comparison between the kit 15-45MM vs the 32MM F1.4. I'm still thinking about getting the 32MM..
Amazing example shots in this video. I have a Canon 22mm f/2 and want to upgrade my lens collection. This is the next lens because the photos seen in this video are really impressive. I also have a Sony A7m3 but I use a small Canon m50 mark II more often, it’s really fun and compact.
You should really try the focal reducer Viltrox EF-EOS M2 which I use for photography, it works pretty well with any EF lens other than the super wide angle lenses (after having turned the glass bits because the QC on the adapter is bad and out of the box I couldn't focus to infinity). The results are pretty good with my 50mm 1.4, my 24-70 f/2.8 (I) L lens and my 85 1.8 ... And gaining one stop is pretty cool, the 50mm 1.4 becomes a 55mm f/1! Also, because you are adopting Canon on Canon and the adapter doesn't need a chip to translate the data exchanged between the lens and the camera body, you get full speed AF and no compatibility issue.
Lastly every EF lens you own becomes two lenses as they can be adapted with focal reducer or with the lens adapter with crop which allows for a pretty light camera bag.
that is what I did. much cheaper than native lens. use booster and EF 50mm 1.8 II stm or EF 50mm 1.4 usm
think about to have one but i had read some reviews about the booster that it affects image quality, not so sure about that
@@jackseb0056 well it is not neutral but the effect can be unnoticeable or catastrophic, it depends on the lens. With my wide angles 17mm and 20mm (full frame) it doesn't work . With my 50mm, 85mm it works very well, seems to work ok with my 24-70L but not tested thoroughly and I haven't tested with my long tele lens just because too big to walk around with such a small camera attached. In summary, not perfect (don't think it could be) but so so so worth the money. Apparently Canon is about to make one but not sure they can do much better and it will be much more expensive ... Wait and see.
This would make a good astro lens. It appears to be very good in the corners when barely stopped down to f/2!
If they were making lenses like that, half of the cameras sold would be Canon Ms.
I wish they'd made it a long time ago, but at least it's here now!
@@cameralabs All I want them to make are three lenses; a 10-20mm f/2.8 for video, an 85mm f/1.8 and an 18-300mm all-around zoom lens. I know I am asking too much.
@@snowwalker9999 sounds reasonable enough!
@@snowwalker9999 18-150 is bad enough, who need even worse 18-300 ? I want 15-45/4 or 15-45/2,8 with low CA, better than acceptable distorsion and vignetting and good transfer of colors and contrast to use real pottencial of M5/M50 sensor !
@@bh69videa 15-45/2.8 IS in addition to a 10-20/2.8 would be sweet. Or, I'd be happy with a 15-105/4 IS also.
i have the 15-45 and to be honest i prefer the depth of field at 32on the kit, 1.4 is too fine, with the example at 2:45 i liked the fact all of you is in focus, rather than the 32 prime with your shoulders out of focus,
one of the reasons i won't be getting any more M mounts for my M50 is the lack of M mount x2 converters and tubes.
since i got the sigma 100-400 for the M50 and now have 2 2x verters and several tubes (at 100mm the siggy does 5mm macro! 1:4.4) i'll stick to finding ef glass.
i still use the m mount lenses alot for compact when i just have a shoulder bag, i use the 22mm pancake as a body blank so i always reay to shoot from stowed away.
if you know of any 2x teleconverters m mount to m mount i'd be very interested
This combo of M50 & 32mm produces some of the best images I’ve seen ... shame canon didn’t just scale up the M50 for better battery life and bigger hands
The M50 certainly has its faults, but at increasingly discounted prices, I really like it.
@@cameralabs M5 seems to me a bit better for photo work - it's a pitty its more expensive than M50 (why ?). I hope M5 II will be soon and it will be bigger body !
RAj Curry The whole point of the M range is it’s small size; so why on earth are you talking about scaling it up! If you want a scaled up camera, buy an EOS DSLR!
If it is too small, get the body cover: eh32‑cj it gives a better grip. I got mine as a kit.
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Strangely it does snot come in black but the brown looks pretty cool especially with a brow strap which I also got. Third party batteries are cheap and they are 100% compatible. Same does not apply to M5/M6. The reason I bought M50 was partially related to having already three batteries from the M. With M5/6 I would have had to spend 70 € for an extra battery.
@@bh69videa M5 has three wheels, M50 one. These kind of mechanical features cost. I think they will not bring M5 Mark II, and focus on the M6 Mark II as the top model. The whole idea of M series is to be small. The body cover is a simple way to increase the size. It adds 7 mm to the bottom and 3 mm to the side. At least on my hands it gives support to the middle finger.
There are also third party solutions:
canon-eos-m50-battery-grip.bujacze.com/
No lens lock! Great. Love it already.
Pardon the beginner question here but I recently purchased the Canon SL2. What would be the equivalent lens you would recommend? Thx!
Is this one also good for video? Thanks,
Is it good for short films shot in and outside? Great review btw!
Good video as usual, you covered a lot here. It is a nice lens overall. I've been using the 32mm since the first day of release in the USA. I'm not super thrilled with how the AF is set-up in this 32mm and the 22mm, but they work well enough. At first I was confused why they designed this lens to focus so close for its focal length, but in practice it is really useful. Thankfully it has the limiter switch! That makes the price a litter easier to swallow. The 32mm and the 22mm help out with making the M50 and M100 I use serviceable for more situations without adapting anything.
Thanks! Yes, i think this and the 22mm would be a nice combo... and I also enjoyed having the reasonably close focusing as you saw in the video...
This is a good lens, and I've been so tempted to buy it However!… not too impressed with the focus speed, the price made me hesitate, and as a multiplemediamanager, i.e video as well as photography, the IS is important.
I use to own the Canon EF 35mm f2.0 USM IS, and it was brilliant. I sold it to get the EF 35mm f1.4L, to use for photography a few years back when I was building my holy trinity of L's. I remember though, that 35mm 2.0 lens was clean, quick, and quite light. Given the choice between getting the EFM 32, and rebuying the EF 35 IS, I think I would rather go for the one with IS. Plus as an EF lens, I can still use it with my other Cameras 5D, 6D, 7D…
Good review, but in short, it's too expensive, and not quick enough in my opinion.
Finally! (unfortunately, I am no longer faithful :[]
I used to use the 22mm prime bcuz it meant the camera actually fit in my pocket. Not the sharpest lens tho. It is "water-proof," according to my tests, using it in the rain; I went inside when the touch screen was too wet to function.
The M50 is so affordable now; with this lens, it's a perfect combination for "camera-always-with-you-photography."
It's a pretty nice review. Just received mine for the eos m6 and for the 1st couple of shots i've done with it, i was quite enjoying it but still need to be tested in depth.
It's good also to show the alternative with the adapter and the nifty 50. Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Hi Gordon, glad you made the review. I have this lens and optically It is one of the best 50 equivalent lenses for any system as well as being light and compact. Isn't it much easier to review a lens that's nearly perfect?
It's not easier really, I just do the same tests and present the results.
@@cameralabs Yes, more satisfying perhaps but not easier! :-)
It's a pity that the Canon doesn't have a post focus feature like Panasonic, this lens would be perfect for it.
Aside from the extra stop, how does this compare to a nifty fifty on an adapter? I've already got both, and I'd hate to spend almost $400 to get something that requires 2 magnifying glasses and 2 out of 3 experts to see a difference...
So, in case of these lenses and crop sensors, is the crop multiplication applied on both focal lenght and f-stop or just focal lenght?
I orginally commented on this review and just complained about the price. However I am a fan of Gordon's reviews so some months back I picked up one of these lenses and from an admittedly limited number of native lenses, this really is a very good lens is a real pleasure to use and immediately replaced my 22mm as my favourite for this system.
Glad you like it!
I love this lens and my 11-22mm on my Canon M50
How did you take the shot at 11:48 of the book text? I mean the focal point being a line like that? I have the 32mm F1.4 EF-M lens, but I can't get it looking like that
I think he had it in miniature mode, the focal line is adjustable up and down but runs all the way horizontally.
Have been struggling to get a 22mm or a 32mm for months. Gonna get a 32mm 1.4 after watching your review. Thank you man !!
You're welcome!
What is that switch near the base of the lens?
I was excited until I saw the price... I think I'll stick with getting the 50mm and an adapter...
Yes, but of course the 50mm will be longer, than the 32mm so you'd end up with a short telephoto lens.
why are ef-m lenses significantly more expensive? 😭😭
Well the 32mm 1.4 is extremely well crafted cost more to get lenses that perfect.
I bought this lens about few months ago. For what it is, I would not consider it expensive. The LumixLeica 25mm f/1,4 Mk2 for the Micro4/3 system is even more expensive.
I was thinking it is cheap!!
I wonder if ever Canon will bother to produce an affordable full frame 50mm f/1.4 lens for EF or RF mount. The existing Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM is ages old.
and from what I remember it has an extremely fragile focus motor.
I have the m50, as well as the Canon EF 50mm lens and adapter, and love the images I can get with it, but do find a lot of times that it is too zoomed in for me. I feel like this could be a great middle ground, but it's so dang expensive... gonna sleep on it.
It's not cheap, but it is very nice! Do also check out the three Sigma prime lenses for EF-M - I made a video about them
Nice vid ! I have M50 with Canon 22mm prime lens.
Hi! I recently bought a canon m50 with 50mm yongnuo lens but I need an adapter to use the lens. Do you know wich adapter is the indicated?
The 15-45 isn't too bad in good light but not using it to much now. Just ordered the 22mm f2, got the nifty f1.8 with the Viltrox adapter, do I really need this 32mm at that price, no but I want one and the f1.4 is very attractive, one day maybe.
What I'd really like just now is the EF 100mm f2.8 L Macro IS USM , yummy.
Excellent review Gordon, have subbed..
Hello Gordon. May I "bother" you with a question - maybe you have experience with it? I bought a used Canon EF-M 11-22mm lens from eBay classifieds. Now is problematic: What about lamellas whose alloy is partially like "chipped off" and seem eaten up? Can that be damage from a fall or impact - with otherwise normal and inconspicuous image quality? The slats are not oily. Not a fungus.
Remote diagnosis is of course difficult.
Viewed with a magnifying glass: Some of the lamellas seem to have slipped and the alloy seems to have been pitted. Some of them are not smooth at the edge but rather deformed and frayed. These look rusty. Water damage?
The problem is that the seller is from Italy and does not show any reaction to my inquiries.
Greetings Chris
Hi Chris, I'm not sure what you mean by lamellas? It's possible it may have been damaged or is worn, but if you're happy with the image quality and the price, it could be acceptable. it depends on what condition it was sold to you.
Dear Gordon, I thank you very much for answering. So I will handle it. The price was good and the pictures are too. 👍
Thanks for the review. I've been wondering if I should get one.
You're welcome! So, are you convinced?
5:10 I thought that taking photos of the sun destroys a camera? When you use a DSLR it would also destroy your eye when looking through the optical viewfinder.
No, it's ok so long as it's a brief period.
I love the corner sharpness and fast aperture, but the lack of image stabilization is problematic for me. I really like IS.
I agree, it wouldn't be an issue if the body had IBIS but none of the EOS M cameras do, sadly.
@@cameralabs I decided to give it a chance and I bought the lens. I hesitated to get the 22mm, then it ended up being my favorite lens. Now I'm giving it's younger sibling a chance to impress too.
Taking portraits indoors on a 50mm gives such a shallow DOF that I need to narrow the aperture so much to get someone's entire head in focus that the low light performance of the 50mm f/1.8 suffers. Here's hoping the 32mm balances variables better for my use case.
I have the nifty fifty with adapter as well as the kit lens and wondering if this lens will do a better job than my 50mm f1.8 for an all purpose lens. I like to go to car shows and with the 50mm I need to be 10-15 feet away to capture the whole subject. Will the native 32mm be a better option in this situation?
Native or adapted, the focal length doesn't change, so a 32 will be roughly two thirds the magnification of a 50. Things will appear two thirds the size from the same distance.
@@cameralabs thanks for the info! If I understand correctly, I can be 1/3 closer to my subject with the 32mm vs the 50mm for the same captured image size
@@Barry.R yes, although the perspective and background size and depth of field will of course change.
What’s difference between full or 0.5m-Infinity? And how they work?
I have the Kit-lens. What is the improvement for landscape photography? In your video I see the bokeh is much better. But is it sharper - or does it have other Advantages? Because it i not so cheap I want to know what I can expect....
I showed a sharpness comparison between it and the kit lens in the video!
Yes you do, thanks. It`s a great Investment for me - so i wanted to have a confirmation, that I won`t go wrong with this lens...
@@wickie4801 but you have to ask yourself if this focal length is right for your landscape photos as for most people it would be too long. I would prefer a wider lens, like the 11-18mm. So do check to see how much you shoot at or near to 32mm before buying.
Thank you for answer. So you see: I´m really a beginner - Smile...
Hi Gordon,
This was a very good review I have ti say!
You included IQ and build quality and you just made me think about buying it.. It is funny though because except for the old and good EOS M Ihave the new R so I am not sure if I shoukd go with the RF 35 1.8 or this 32 lens fir the EOS M?
I know I can get better pics with the R and RF but the M is so much smaller and lighter so I can carry it literally anywhere.
What do you think? What would you do?
Well, remember 32mm on the EOS M will become closer to 50mm, so it depends if you'd prefer a 35 or a 50. If I had an EOS R though, I'd get the RF 35mm f1.8, I'm very fond of that lens.
@@cameralabs Thank you so much for your reply.
I guess I will go for the RF 35 then :)
Thanks again and waiting for more videos!
Can you make a cinematic with this lens?
look at the video again...
@@pabloitare It's only a slideshow, it's not a cinematic
Good honest review. Thanks for ruling this out for vlogging. At we know the limitations.
Canon does not have comparable lenses for EF-S either unless you count EF 28 mm and 35 mm.
Very useful and easy to digest, Thank you!
You're very welcome!
The SIGMA 30mm F1.4 DC DN is just around the corner with a more attractive price tag. On the Sony mount the Sigma is said to be stunning. Could become quite a hard competition for the EF-M 32mm... What does Gordon think..?
I can't wait to try it out, and I will of course compare it to the Canon model.
Great... I think that's going to be an interesting comparison for many users. Thanks.
Great review. What efm lens should canon make next?
Thanks! What would you like to see? I think there's enough zooms, so I'd like to see more primes, probably a 50mm next for an 80mm-ish equivalent. Either that or we could twist Sigma's arm into doing EF-M versions of its APSC lenses! Plus an EOS M50 equivalent with IBIS and uncropped 4k please!
@@Diesel6Power I fear not, as Canon doesn't seem interested in IBIS. Maybe they can't do it.
@@Diesel6Power not that I've heard, but hopefully I'm wrong.
85mm equivalent at 1.4.
Thanks for the thorough review. Do you think Canon is going to continue developing lenses for the EOS-M line given how slow it has been to date and how it's now focussing (pun intended) on the EOS-R cameras and RF lenses? I wonder if this might be the last.
That's the big question. They deliberately intro'd this lens on the day of the EOS R launch to show they were still committed to / supporting EOS M. But even if they proceed at the same pace they have to date, I wouldn't expect more than one EF-M lens a year if at all. And if they slow down, then there'll be even less. It's a real shame EOS R isn't compatible in the same way Sony's e-mount is. But we can only speculate. Put it this way, I think there WILL be more EOS M products, but I wouldn't buy into it counting on a particular new lens to arrive.
@@cameralabs I do like my M6, but I'm definitely tempted by the RP. It would be nice to see a refresh of the M5 though.
@@FrasSmith I'll be reviewing the RP soon, although like the EOS M, it doesn't have a huge amount of native lenses yet... that said, Canon should match the number of EF-M lenses in the RF mount by the end of the first year of that system!
Would this work lovely on the canon eos m6 mark ii? I’ve been seeing a lot of comments about it being great on the m50 but not on the m6 Mark ii .
Thank you so much♥️ 📸
It certainly will work! Any EF-M lens will work on the M6 II. Also consider the Sigma 30mm f1.4 in one of my other reviews.
Thank you so much. Thanks for the quick response.
Doesn't the fact that it is a crop sensor change the aperture? From a 1.4 to 2.2? I know that's still good but I am new to this and wondering. Thank you for the content.
In terms of light gathering and exposure, f1.4 is f1.4, but in terms of equivalent depth of field, this lens becomes equivalent to using a 52mm f2.2 on a full-frame body.
@@cameralabs thank you for the clarification.
Is the lens supposed to give the subject a bit of blur? I notice when it zooms in on you it isn't sharp all the way across, part of your body is blurred.
when at 1.4 it will happen, stop down to 2.0 or 2.8 and it will make more of him non-blurry
love the weight of the efm lenses with the speedbooster theres an ef v efm equation the efm 28 macro looks tempting also the ef 24 think the 22 efm v ef 24 speedboosted real conundrum for m users love a pros and cons ef speedboosted v efm nice f1.4 this one have an wide/ macro adaptor that works on many lenses with step up ring would make this wider
Very good review!
Was the choice of the wall mural a coincidence or was it intentional? 😜
Thanks! Er, you see what you want to see in the mural!
@@cameralabs - Very diplomatic answer!! well done!
Hey Gordon
This video was stunning. I'm a beginner looking to take things to the next level. I create RUclips videos and I'm looking to upgrade from my kit Len's in the canon M6
Is this really good for videos as it is for photos?
Sure thing, it's great for video! Although if you're presenting to camera, you may find the Sigma 16mm f1.4 DC DN for EF-M a better choice.
@@cameralabsThank you. lenses are so expensive. I had no idea 😅
It's such a complex world also.
please tell me the price of canon m50 with Canon 32mm f/1.4 EF-M and i have herd that if we buy Canon 32mm f/1.4 EF-M the price will be less the actual price is it true ?????? which one is better for portrait photography canon 32 mm 1.4 or canon 50mm 1.8???
why don't you check at a shop or online store?
Thanks for the review!
How do you feel this compares with the sigma 30/1.4?
So how would you compare eos-m body with the 32/1.4 V a6xxx body with sigma 30/1.4?
thanks again!
I have this lens and let me tell you don't bother with the Sigma, the 32 1.4 is that good!
@@kian8382 Do you have side-by-side samples of both you can share?
Remember there's TWO versions of the Sigma 30mm f1.4, but I assume you mean the Canon EF version. Unhelpfully I've not tested either, but hope to at some point.
@@cameralabs the sigma 30/1.4 for e-mount is one of my favourite lenses (I know you tested the 56mm 1.4 recently). I'd certainly be interested to see how it compares as it's my most used setup on an a6300. Looking at your review the sigma performs much better for eye-af on the a6300 but I suspect that's because the a6300 is a higher end body as much as the lens
@@GregThurtle so many lenses, so little time!
Well, i thinking about to buy one but not sure which one, this 32mm or the 50mm with adapter to make it fit to the M50. The 32mm is quite expensive with 480 Eur and the 50mm inkl. adapter is over 250 Euro... so ist there a big difference between 32mm and 50mm?
Well they're completely different focal lengths, so it depends what you want to use it for. The 50 on the EOS M becomes around 80mm, so a portrait lens, whereas the 32 becomes around 50mm for a more general-purpose option.
@@cameralabs I would use it for portraits or blur pictures basically, the portraits with 15-45mm are not really fine. So, it might be better to take the 50mm?
@@sebastianj4549 for portraits DEFINITELY get the EF 50mm f1.8 STM with the adapter. PS - if you're ordering online, please consider going through my links here or at cameralabs.com thanks!
@@sebastianj4549 PS - in my M50 review at cameralabs I show a comparison between the 15-45mm and the 50mm for portraits - scroll down this page to see it: www.cameralabs.com/canon-eos-m50-review/
Thx for video test!
Nice review, although as you were spouting out those various lenses and their specs and prices, I have to say, I got lost early on. Canon has been slow to the market with wide aperture lenses, favoring narrow apertures, like a 24-70 L lens with f4? WHAT ??? That's crazy. If one is going to spend that kind of money, they should have wide options. I've never used anything but Canon lenses and Canon cameras even wore a Canon hat, missing options for wider apertures in affordable options, I purchased a Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 and WOW what an amazing positive experience.
It's hard to talk about lenses without a stream of confusing numbers, codes and acronyms!
@@cameralabs for sure. No argument.
I want to get this, how to buy?
you did not explain the settings on the side of the lens FULL etc which is the normal setting?
if you are shooting things that are close, use the full. If you are shooing things farther away use the restricted one and your AF is supposed to be faster because it will not get distracted.
@@philipethier9136 thanks! this is the first explanation i've seen of this! (i've felt very thick, not being able to work it out! 🤣🤣🤣)
Seems pretty big with the lens hood
Thanks for your review,
Im planning to buy this camera.
Which lenses are the most recommended? Gonna start RUclips channel plus i have instagram fashion page which im taking flatlays for and maybe som modells. I did research about
EF m15-45
EF m 22
EF m 11-22
EF m 32
EF m 50-200
I have a budget of 2500 dollar but not sure about how many lenses m gonna need or is it better you use speed shutter with other Efs lenses?
Regards
If your budget is that high, dont get the eos m50. Get a full frame camera instead and start off with the kit lens and a 50mm 1.8 lens. Then use the spare cash on tripods, batteries, SD cards and other accessories :)
I still don't know why people are buying ef-m lenses.. just get an ef->ef-m adaptor and buy an EF lens... ef-m is a dead mount and you're going to want to be able to take your EF lenses with you onto RF :V
M50 is Canons best selling camera in japan. The EF lenses cost way more and are far larger and heavier.
@@humansrants1694 I ditched Canon for Sony and my M50 is just a fancy webcam now
I’m doubting between this lens and the new Sigma Art 18-35mm. Which is better for a Canon m50 camera?
Is the 18-35mm in the native mount, or do you need to adapt an EF version?
Gordon Laing I’m planning to use the Viltrox Speedlite adapter
Get this, much more compact and there has been focusing issues on the Sigma though I do not know if they apply to mirrorless cameras,
camerasize.com/compact/#776.791,776.379.2,ha,t
The Sigma with the adapter is 900 grams, this is 235 grams.
Thank you for another excellent review!
Thanks!
Is that a lens rental sticker I see at 7:40?
Ha ha, well spotted. They handle the press loans for several companies.
I have a Canon m50 with kit lens, 15-45mm. I have plan to buy a lens. Could you give me a recommendation?
Wait till the summer deals hit the stores :)
You need to tell us what you want to use it for and in what way is the 15-45mm not satisfying you.
@@cameralabs i am satisffying with tke kit. But need a lens for low light situation in outdoor. Maybe have a great bokeh
@@AgusRiyantoazel for low light and greater blurring in the background, you need a lens with a smaller f-number, so for the EF-M system, that means either the EF-M 32mm f1.4 or the EF-M 22mm. If you're ok with something that's as long as your kit zoom at 45mm, then go for the EF 50mm f1.8 and adapt it. So choose which focal length would be best for you using your zoom, either 22mm, 32mm or 50mm, then go for one of those.
Is there a cheaper knock off version anywhere? I would be curious to compare that personally...whoops I asked too soon. Thanks for the cheaper alternatives. I just need a lens for a blurred background for portraits. Using eos m 100.
64wulf try the meike 35mm f1.4. Heard good reviews of this lens
For portraits you need a longer lens get the adapter and 50 mm f/1.8 or 85 mm f/1.8. Start with the 50 mm, it is cheap. The 85 mm is here about 400 €.
50mm with speed booster has it and it's good enough with its price. Only the difference is the bokeh and noise.
This was a thorough beautiful spectacular review.
Why thankyou!
@@cameralabs because, you're welcome.
Honestly I’m not that impressed for the $$
bought the 32 mm because of your review
Hope you like it!
@@cameralabs the lense is so good!!
As ever Gordon a very good practical review. I have an M6 and 4 lenses as a travel/casual carry kit and this includes the f2 22mm M lens which is very useful and whilst this 32 looks an excellent bit of kit because for me my M6 is a "secondary system" I'm not sure that I can convince myself that £500 is a justified spend :)
Glad you enjoyed it! Yes, it is a bit more expensive than I'd like it to be - but then what isn't?! Hopefully the street prices will fall over time. It is a nice lens for the system.
The only way to use this on my M50, would be with a speed booster? 🤔🤔
No, it just works straightaway, no adapter or booster required.
Awesome summation, Thanks bro!!! :D X
You're welcome! You gonna get one?
@@cameralabs I just picked up the M50 with kit lens + the... 55 - 200? I think that's it? But I feel my next purchase will certainly be this! The bokeh is super hot! I really appreciate your comparison! :D X
@@jakejakejakejakejakejake you're welcome! PS - if you order online, please consider going through my links here or at cameralabs.com, thanks!
Canon has really dragged its feet on producing EF-M lenses and now with the release of their full frame mirrorless cameras I would expect this trend to get even worse--assuming Canon does not completely drop this line-up altogether. On the upside my M3 still makes a terrific travel camera and the EF-M lenses that do exist can be had for relatively low prices on Ebay.
I don't think they'll abandon it, but equally they're historically only released one lens per year!
@@cameralabs With mirrorless cameras becoming all the rage (I still prefer my DSLRs) maybe the crop sensor DSLRs could potentially be on the chopping block.
I have shot as a hobbyist with Canon cameras for well over a decade but one BIG criticism I have is that they seem to spread their resources thin releasing many camera bodies instead of creating a few superior ones.
Contrast the sluggish release of EF-M mount lenses of various qualities with that of the R line--all extremely high end glass with more to be released soon.
I have this lens and I still watched because I like your reviews!
Why did you leave New Zealand?
It wasn't right for me anymore. It may be in the future, but not right now.
Waited years to get a native APS-C 35mm for my 7D back in the days. At some point i moved to Sony. And got the Sigma 30mm APS-C for my old Canon.
I hear you. I really feel Canon has neglected its APSC lenses.
500 usd for a native 32mm f1.4 or use a 100$ speed booster adaptor and 100$ nifty fifty 50mm f1.8 (boosted to f1.4) and that lens I can share with EF,EFS, R camera....hmmmm….
hard time decide between this one and the sigma 30mm 1.4
Yes, I would wait until the Sigma EF-M mount lenses become available (hopefully later this year) before deciding.
@@cameralabs i'm starting travel vlogg
(not on this channel) i will buy the 10-18mm for sure with viltrox on m50(so i will have the adapter in any case). i know she is heavy but 15-35mm sigma look outstanding for maybe shooting inside the hotel room and getting this cinematic vibe
i can't really find alternative and i know m50 suffering from low light problem.
interesting option was actually 35mm yongnuo with speed booster viltrox
someone had real awesome result issue is it's noisy or like you suggested the 35mm canon with adapter.
the 32mm have amazing result with c-log
i think its completely look way better than the "right out of the box"
18-35mm art sigma
Gordon Laing Hi Gordon, will you be reviewing the new Sigma 30mm?
Thank you so much for the review. very helpful. i think this is really good for vlogging :) :)
it's great for pieces to camera from a bit further away.
@@cameralabs oh yeah you are right. maybe 22m suits me more if I don't always have someone else helping me
Gordon - If those prices are correct then we Brits are getting SKINNED! I know the pound has dropped a lot compared to other currencies but charging US $479 and GBP499 seems a hell of a rip off.
Remember the UK prices include tax at 20%, whereas the US prices do not include their sales tax. Also remember the US is a MUCH bigger market so in sheer volume they can order more and enjoy greater discount. And finally, thanks to Brexit, our exchange rate is poor, so we're getting stuffed on that too.
There is 20% VAT and a 6.7% customs fee (applies to lenses sold separately)
How I wish that Sigma will make their 16, 30, and 56 millimeters available in EF M mount
We all wish that! And in Fuji X too!
It's like half the price to get a EF-EOS M Adapter and an EF 50mm f1.8 STM and then you can use other EF lenses... I still think it's just so dumb that they created a new mount for the mirrorless range
Well remember 50mm is longer than 32mm, so it's a different type of coverage. The fairer comparison would be against one of the EF 35mm lenses, and even then the focusing on the native lens will be quicker and often quieter, while the physical size will be smaller too. But I agree, it can be cheaper to adapt.
The whole point if a mirrorless camera is to have smaller flange focal distance. You want to eat the cake and have it too. The small flange focal distance allows 22 mm f/2.0 instead of 24 mm f/2.8. If you ant a camera with 44 mm flange focal distance you can buy a DSLR. The 22 mm f/2.0 reaches just 42 mm from the sensor. That is less than the flange focal distance of a DSLR.
50 mm is different from 32 mm. I have 22 mm and 50 mm and I would like this 32 mm, though it currently is little too expensive for me.
Please do a comparison on Sigma 30 1.4 DN on a6400.
I'd like to do all the Sigma APSC lenses...
Gotta get one of these to pair with my m50