What are your thoughts about the XREAL Air 2 Ultra? Are you happy we finally got 6-DOF? Or do you think the FOV is still much too low to really make use of everything the glasses can do?
FOV too small for me to wear it comfortably. There always some part of the screen that is cut off unless i put my eyes close enough to where my eyelash would touch and wipe the screen when i'm blinking which would smudge the screen. Wish the fov was as big as the glass rather than just a small screen in the back.
I was also at the CES XReal's booth and had demo of the Ultra. I also have their old Nreal Light and I'm deciding if I should get the Ultra and return my Quest 3 atm. The FOV is small, but it's about the same as the Light. However, the ultra seems to be clear and brighter than my Nreal Light. But their ecosystem is still lacking and they stopped their support for Nreal Light. I did voice about phone compatibility issues with them. LOL. I really wish they used other optics from Ant Optics. But I'm still deciding if I should return my Quest 3 and get an Ultra. Don't get me wrong, but Ultra seems more comfortable to wear vs Nreal Light or Quest 2 and 3.
Honestly I was fine with the old airs but the FOV it's always the fov, if this had atleast double the fov then it'd be amazing a for sure monitor for traveling and light work and wit 6dof even fckin better
@@robcarlton2341 Loved my Nreal Light even though first gen was not being able to update so far . Great to see 6 dof again. only afraid Norway as region is not supported so I am a bit afraid I would have some probs with Nebula. Also Nreal Light lost ability to show Volumetric Holograms??? Never figured out why. Does Xreal Air Ultra support Volumetric Holograms? Guess Il wait 4 months and then go for it to be sure tech model gets stable...
So I had the XREAL Air 2 Pro for some days, but sadly it wasn't for me. Picture quality was REALLY good, like super sharp, great colours and contrast (obv, with uOLED). I was especially impressed as it's only 1080p, but it looks SOOO good. Sadly, even when the angle was set to the most downward facing position, I couldn't get the glasses to fit nicely. Center of the picture was slightly offset to the top, so I had to look a bit up which was super straining for my eyes. I also had the feeling that the focal distance was too small, like trying to read a book a hand's length away. I just thought: "Well yeah, new optics etc. you just have to get used to it (like I did with my 8KX)", but I just couldn't. I don't know how the Rokid Max would fit me, but I think they are all very similar in that regard. It also doesn't help, that the lenses are actually so small. Bigger lenses with adjustment for the virtual screen position would be ideal, but for that the FOV must be bigger first. Also in regards to the FOV: Corners of the virtual screen were a bit blurry for me, but nothing too bad. The dimming function of the Pro model is quite useless imo, as the electronics (most probably coils) tend to whine when adjusting the dimming (suuuuuper annoying), so you can actually save the 50€ for the Pro model. But it's great to see that they iterate on their design - Maybe I could come back in 2 or 3 generations.
Hello, you can't see well because you haven't adjusted the arms of your glasses. The arms move and have 3 positions... They move up or down depending on how they are set from the factory. when you move them, you will have the feeling that they break , but know that they are resistant. Surely when you set them you will see perfectly and the problem will be solved. Success
@@cristianistrate7618 No, you probably skipped this part of my comment: "Sadly, even when the angle was set to the most downward facing position, I couldn't get the glasses to fit nicely." I really tried everything. ALL 3 positions with every nose pad - They simply won't fit for me.
I have a huge dome for a head. I don’t look like an alien or anything but often hat sizes can be an issue for me. Anyway I bought the Xreal AR 2 Pro and love it. I also bought the original Beam. Recently I picked up the Beam Pro…I like it. It does a good job and has their proprietary software that allows for two apps to be displayed and their sizes adjusted…as well as being able to switch back and forth. Right now my primary use case is to have RUclips up and Chrome on the right hand side with my corporate email up on a tab in it. So I can easily glance over to check email at times, or switch back and forth between the two. My issue is that it is impossible to send emails. The arrow in Chrome Outlook can’t be clicked. Not by the Beam Pro and not by the iClever bluetooth folding mini keyboard that I already had for perhaps five years or so at this point. I decided to order the Ultra glasses. I’m interested in the 52 degrees of FOV (up 15% vs. the pro model). It isn’t a huge gain in FOV but I’ll take it. I’m interested in 6 DOF, but it’s an early adopter scenario. I’m not expecting much right now. I am also prepared with the understanding that the consumer model which comes out will probably come in two variants: a 1080p one like the Ultra, and more than likely a $900 or so 4k Ultra Pro version. I have found that I don’t care about 4k for some reason, 1080p seems always to be just fine for me. Everyone should carefully take note of the following: Xreal does not intend for the Beam Pro to be the companion for the Ultra. It will likely work with it, but I have heard whispers directly from Xreal on two occasions (including in this video) where it is stated that a “companion device” is coming which will be used for and with the Ultra. *sigh*. It’s expensive being an “early adopter”. But I will have to upgrade to that Beam Pro Ultra AGAIN if I want to be able to use the Ultra glasses to their fullest.
Yeah I own the air 1 as well and I completely agree. Unless we’re about to see a big update to the beam or a beam 2 that’s actually capable, these things will be no better than the XReal 1 or air 2 pro
From a scale of 1 - 10, 1 being trash and 10 being VR headset level, what would you rate the 6DOF of this? That is something I think a lot of people will care about. Apart from the FOV, head tracking is something these glasses lack compared to VR headsets. I guess if they can solve 1 problem at a time, it will make a lot of people happy. The FOV improvement can come later when display tech improves.
They told me you can only use the 6DoF if you have a compatible Samsung phone or something. It doesn’t support 6DoF by itself. They said if you have it directly connected to the iPhone then it still acts like the Air 2.
Does these glasses still have the red tint? My Air 2 pros have a red tint. They say it’s very minor and can’t notice it but I can easily notice it as a photographer. They also say they are calibrated and certified in Germany but I’m not sure I believe them unless I got a really bad pair.
The main reason I want the depth sensing is for the glasses to automatically place the virtual screen at a distance in front of any objects in the room e.g. the wall/a person.
More FOV agreed ! But 4K resolution ? For what reason ? The picture is already super sharp in 1080p , so it is ridiculous to ask for 4K ! It will need more computing power for 4K and obviously it is not necessary. Please guys, keep your requests realistic !
The reason to need 4K is so that you can do 3D at 1080p because 3D cuts the resolution in half so a 1080p 3D video is essentially 720 P. In order to make a 1080p 3D video the video resolution has to be 4K for a half SBS 3d file@@Ken_1971
The only down side is seems like an unfinished product in the sense without those 3 matts u have to use your phone as the controller I think I'll go with the xreal air 2 pro
How about a tutorial video on the All the virtual FOV tools you use? I can't find and tutorial on how to download or use the RealoVirtual tool that you use.
I like the concept of a covert way to view content, (on an airplane or train for example). Playing games in public always gives me so much anxiety that it just isn't worth it to me, so I'd love to have a simple way to do this covertly. This seems like it has a bit of a way to go still. Hopefully we will get something simple, stealthy, and high quality soon :/
The Xreal Air 2 Ultra is basically the original 'Nreal Light' that's in a new housing with a detachable usb-c cable but, (minus a 5MP photo/video camera the Nreal Light has). 🤷♂
Have a look at Viture as well. They are all very similar honestly speaking. What is your use case, what accessories do you want...lots of things to think about. These are nice for the 6 DOF but only if you use flagship Android.
@@mixedrealityTV Cool, thank you Sebastian or Marco! I def think now the time is ready for these type of glasses. The long flight to & from Las Vegas also convinced me this is way better than watching a movie on a laptop or the onboard screen.
Watching movies is better with such glasses compared to Quest3, Pico4. Higher PPD, real blacks (Micro OLED) and much more comfortable than a Varjo XR4, Pimax Crystal or Varjo Aero! My wish for the future: 4k resolution and a 20% larger FOV (70-80° for such glasses seems enough, at least for me...) and no one needs TVs or projectors any more.....
I think screens in glasses are to early for the consumer market yet. Meta has the right approach to only release something users can acualy where all day like the nee meta smart glasses. Adding more functionalities year by year.
The tech is certainly cool, but until they're around $200 and don't ALSO require an expensive phone/tablet to even use the thing, I can't really entertain buying one. Especially not when I already have a device that can easily be used as a personal movie theater any time I want, yet can also play AR/VR games at the drop of a hat. But like I said, the tech is cool and every year it gets a little bit closer to what we all hope it will eventually become.
The movie watching experience is much better compared to Quest3 and Pico4. I've already watched many movies and TV shows with my Rokid Max glasses and never with my Pico4 and Quest3..... (and I have at home a 4k Sony Home Cinema Projector and 8k Sony High End TV..., of course those still have the better image quality but they cost 10-30x more.. and I can't use them in my bed... )
Dudes has the wire all janked on his ear, nothing about that is going to be comfortable. Can't wait to try them. Still at 1/5th the price of the hideous gimmicky Apple headset I would happily buy two just to play with.
What are your thoughts about the XREAL Air 2 Ultra? Are you happy we finally got 6-DOF? Or do you think the FOV is still much too low to really make use of everything the glasses can do?
Bigger fov probably means wider glasses that will change the look. Maybe wrap around sunglasses. Either way it is putting Apple to shame.
FOV too small for me to wear it comfortably. There always some part of the screen that is cut off unless i put my eyes close enough to where my eyelash would touch and wipe the screen when i'm blinking which would smudge the screen. Wish the fov was as big as the glass rather than just a small screen in the back.
I was also at the CES XReal's booth and had demo of the Ultra. I also have their old Nreal Light and I'm deciding if I should get the Ultra and return my Quest 3 atm. The FOV is small, but it's about the same as the Light. However, the ultra seems to be clear and brighter than my Nreal Light. But their ecosystem is still lacking and they stopped their support for Nreal Light. I did voice about phone compatibility issues with them. LOL. I really wish they used other optics from Ant Optics. But I'm still deciding if I should return my Quest 3 and get an Ultra. Don't get me wrong, but Ultra seems more comfortable to wear vs Nreal Light or Quest 2 and 3.
Honestly I was fine with the old airs but the FOV it's always the fov, if this had atleast double the fov then it'd be amazing a for sure monitor for traveling and light work and wit 6dof even fckin better
@@robcarlton2341 Loved my Nreal Light even though first gen was not being able to update so far . Great to see 6 dof again. only afraid Norway as region is not supported so I am a bit afraid I would have some probs with Nebula. Also Nreal Light lost ability to show Volumetric Holograms??? Never figured out why. Does Xreal Air Ultra support Volumetric Holograms? Guess Il wait 4 months and then go for it to be sure tech model gets stable...
"and what is this crap here...."?
🤣🤣🤣 that was funny AF when I heard that!
6:09
@@ExtremCoxer
I am not sure whether Sebastian actually knows what that means. Still funny AF though how casual he's saying it.
Maybe "crab"? That would be on-brand for a Sebastian.
What about the blurred borders? Still blurred?
So I had the XREAL Air 2 Pro for some days, but sadly it wasn't for me. Picture quality was REALLY good, like super sharp, great colours and contrast (obv, with uOLED). I was especially impressed as it's only 1080p, but it looks SOOO good.
Sadly, even when the angle was set to the most downward facing position, I couldn't get the glasses to fit nicely. Center of the picture was slightly offset to the top, so I had to look a bit up which was super straining for my eyes. I also had the feeling that the focal distance was too small, like trying to read a book a hand's length away.
I just thought: "Well yeah, new optics etc. you just have to get used to it (like I did with my 8KX)", but I just couldn't. I don't know how the Rokid Max would fit me, but I think they are all very similar in that regard. It also doesn't help, that the lenses are actually so small. Bigger lenses with adjustment for the virtual screen position would be ideal, but for that the FOV must be bigger first.
Also in regards to the FOV: Corners of the virtual screen were a bit blurry for me, but nothing too bad.
The dimming function of the Pro model is quite useless imo, as the electronics (most probably coils) tend to whine when adjusting the dimming (suuuuuper annoying), so you can actually save the 50€ for the Pro model.
But it's great to see that they iterate on their design - Maybe I could come back in 2 or 3 generations.
Hello, you can't see well because you haven't adjusted the arms of your glasses. The arms move and have 3 positions... They move up or down depending on how they are set from the factory. when you move them, you will have the feeling that they break , but know that they are resistant. Surely when you set them you will see perfectly and the problem will be solved. Success
@@cristianistrate7618 No, you probably skipped this part of my comment: "Sadly, even when the angle was set to the most downward facing position, I couldn't get the glasses to fit nicely."
I really tried everything. ALL 3 positions with every nose pad - They simply won't fit for me.
@@lutzchen9887i have a small head i am told. But thinking of getting a pair🤔
Maybe never as that seems to be a limit of this form factor.
I have a huge dome for a head. I don’t look like an alien or anything but often hat sizes can be an issue for me. Anyway I bought the Xreal AR 2 Pro and love it. I also bought the original Beam. Recently I picked up the Beam Pro…I like it. It does a good job and has their proprietary software that allows for two apps to be displayed and their sizes adjusted…as well as being able to switch back and forth.
Right now my primary use case is to have RUclips up and Chrome on the right hand side with my corporate email up on a tab in it. So I can easily glance over to check email at times, or switch back and forth between the two. My issue is that it is impossible to send emails. The arrow in Chrome Outlook can’t be clicked. Not by the Beam Pro and not by the iClever bluetooth folding mini keyboard that I already had for perhaps five years or so at this point.
I decided to order the Ultra glasses. I’m interested in the 52 degrees of FOV (up 15% vs. the pro model). It isn’t a huge gain in FOV but I’ll take it. I’m interested in 6 DOF, but it’s an early adopter scenario. I’m not expecting much right now. I am also prepared with the understanding that the consumer model which comes out will probably come in two variants: a 1080p one like the Ultra, and more than likely a $900 or so 4k Ultra Pro version. I have found that I don’t care about 4k for some reason, 1080p seems always to be just fine for me.
Everyone should carefully take note of the following: Xreal does not intend for the Beam Pro to be the companion for the Ultra. It will likely work with it, but I have heard whispers directly from Xreal on two occasions (including in this video) where it is stated that a “companion device” is coming which will be used for and with the Ultra. *sigh*. It’s expensive being an “early adopter”. But I will have to upgrade to that Beam Pro Ultra AGAIN if I want to be able to use the Ultra glasses to their fullest.
As an Xreal air 1 owner I can only suspect this device will be severely limited by Xreal's poor software, not really by it's FOV
As an xreal 2 owner I agree
Yeah I own the air 1 as well and I completely agree. Unless we’re about to see a big update to the beam or a beam 2 that’s actually capable, these things will be no better than the XReal 1 or air 2 pro
seems like you haven't seen software from other AR glasses, 1 update 1 year ago. Xreal at least pumping something, not good, but they do updates.
They're really starting to market heavy to developers now, I think it's going to grow into something big.
What is its fov? I read somewhere that it is 45deg?
From a scale of 1 - 10, 1 being trash and 10 being VR headset level, what would you rate the 6DOF of this? That is something I think a lot of people will care about. Apart from the FOV, head tracking is something these glasses lack compared to VR headsets. I guess if they can solve 1 problem at a time, it will make a lot of people happy.
The FOV improvement can come later when display tech improves.
Honestly if FOV in on AR glasses is the only flaw then it's perfect and honestly what did you expect for that form factor?
Any recomended way of getting GPS data for waypoint developement?
They told me you can only use the 6DoF if you have a compatible Samsung phone or something. It doesn’t support 6DoF by itself. They said if you have it directly connected to the iPhone then it still acts like the Air 2.
On their site they say you can use a new beam like device to use and it'[s only for the S22/S23 ultras.
Does these glasses still have the red tint? My Air 2 pros have a red tint. They say it’s very minor and can’t notice it but I can easily notice it as a photographer. They also say they are calibrated and certified in Germany but I’m not sure I believe them unless I got a really bad pair.
The main reason I want the depth sensing is for the glasses to automatically place the virtual screen at a distance in front of any objects in the room e.g. the wall/a person.
I like the fancy style from Xreal maybe next gen more FOV & 4K.
This. Both need to increase
More FOV agreed ! But 4K resolution ? For what reason ? The picture is already super sharp in 1080p , so it is ridiculous to ask for 4K !
It will need more computing power for 4K and obviously it is not necessary.
Please guys, keep your requests realistic !
@@Ken_1971 You will change your mind when you see 4K, HDR and larger FOV.
The reason to need 4K is so that you can do 3D at 1080p because 3D cuts the resolution in half so a 1080p 3D video is essentially 720 P. In order to make a 1080p 3D video the video resolution has to be 4K for a half SBS 3d file@@Ken_1971
The only down side is seems like an unfinished product in the sense without those 3 matts u have to use your phone as the controller I think I'll go with the xreal air 2 pro
What about iPhone users? 6DoF only works with Android for now.
Yep. :(
How about a tutorial video on the All the virtual FOV tools you use? I can't find and tutorial on how to download or use the RealoVirtual tool that you use.
Love the authentic and honest narration.
Will this require the same permissions as the air pro 2 and nebula app? If it does you can keep it.
Nice touch to adjust the Hue in your video at same time as you did it in the glasses! 😉👍
It’s a physical change so yeah
Like other commentators have said it is a no go at 1080p in 2024. 4K or nothing.
6:19 "and what is this crap here" lol
I like the concept of a covert way to view content, (on an airplane or train for example). Playing games in public always gives me so much anxiety that it just isn't worth it to me, so I'd love to have a simple way to do this covertly. This seems like it has a bit of a way to go still. Hopefully we will get something simple, stealthy, and high quality soon :/
Can they rotate the screen to increase the fov ?
What?
@@gustavomoraes870 i mean get a bigger horizontal FOV by placing the diagonal horizontally
@@yoan4152 thats like turning your TV so 1 corner is straight up... lol
"Fingertracking looks exactly like Ultraleap" --> xreal man looking very embarrassed 🤣
The Xreal Air 2 Ultra is basically the original 'Nreal Light' that's in a new housing with a detachable usb-c cable but, (minus a 5MP photo/video camera the Nreal Light has). 🤷♂
The price jumped significantly from $449 to $699, meaning that with every generation, the price only increases.
Can u use the beam on this?
Yes
I like the concept but 1080p is just not enough. It was noticeable on the 1st one.
It needs to be 1440p at minimum or 4k.
The glasses look cool.
Light, unobtrusive, stylish even; but if the FOV is bad, then it isn't actually truly what it is trying to be.
This or Rokid?
Have a look at Viture as well. They are all very similar honestly speaking. What is your use case, what accessories do you want...lots of things to think about. These are nice for the 6 DOF but only if you use flagship Android.
@@mixedrealityTV Cool, thank you Sebastian or Marco! I def think now the time is ready for these type of glasses. The long flight to & from Las Vegas also convinced me this is way better than watching a movie on a laptop or the onboard screen.
can it show 3d content?
What do you mean? A 3d movie or are objects in nebula 3d?
@@theneophytejournal 3d movie
Watching movies is better with such glasses compared to Quest3, Pico4. Higher PPD, real blacks (Micro OLED) and much more comfortable than a Varjo XR4, Pimax Crystal or Varjo Aero!
My wish for the future: 4k resolution and a 20% larger FOV (70-80° for such glasses seems enough, at least for me...) and no one needs TVs or projectors any more.....
Besides the red tint.
I love mine first gen Airs... but since I have family and friends I still need my projector.
@@laartwork
Of course a Home Cinema Projector still has it's usecase......
@@Anakin-dl6eb "no one needs TVs or projectors any more.....
"
"Of course a Home Cinema Projector still has it's usecase......"
PICK ONE
It's 1080p. It's noticeable up close
A controller like what the gear vr had would make it complete. I'd rather have 2 gear vr controllers than what the quest has.
6:18 what is this crab here?😂
I think screens in glasses are to early for the consumer market yet. Meta has the right approach to only release something users can acualy where all day like the nee meta smart glasses. Adding more functionalities year by year.
It's AR glasses trying to be MR glasses!
Is it really faster to say eff o vee than field of view 😂
The tech is certainly cool, but until they're around $200 and don't ALSO require an expensive phone/tablet to even use the thing, I can't really entertain buying one. Especially not when I already have a device that can easily be used as a personal movie theater any time I want, yet can also play AR/VR games at the drop of a hat.
But like I said, the tech is cool and every year it gets a little bit closer to what we all hope it will eventually become.
The movie watching experience is much better compared to Quest3 and Pico4. I've already watched many movies and TV shows with my Rokid Max glasses and never with my Pico4 and Quest3..... (and I have at home a 4k Sony Home Cinema Projector and 8k Sony High End TV..., of course those still have the better image quality but they cost 10-30x more.. and I can't use them in my bed... )
They won't be getting that cheap anytime soon.
What they really need to do is increase the resolution and FOV
Dudes has the wire all janked on his ear, nothing about that is going to be comfortable.
Can't wait to try them. Still at 1/5th the price of the hideous gimmicky Apple headset I would happily buy two just to play with.
He doesnt sound impressed by it lol
What is this crap here ? 🤣Coaster for the beer.😂
Chinise always copying
6DOF is useless in those glasses, only for stupid things