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Let me shine a light 🔦on some mega concerns 😱I have about the Meganex Superlight 8K: -Mega COMPRESSION 🗜 ? Shiftall didn't provide info on the Display Port's version, so they probably use the most common older one being 1.4 😭 limited at 25.92 Gbps. Manufacturers struggles to make DP2.1 cables longer than a meter (3.28 feets) and most GPUs don't event have this version so I higly doubt meganx has it. The headset (at 7104×3840 90hz 10bit) should require ~77.70Gbps for video only which is 3x above the limitation so massive compression that result in visual degradation and artefacts expected. This tends to show way more on detailed areas, text, dynamic scenes and guess who showed 5min of an unicolored parked car on an untextured road. The frame rate could have been limited to reduce the compression during the demo since nothing was moving and people would not have picked it up. Compression/Upscaling is already annoying with the beyond, expect way worse. -Super Motion BLURRY 👻 ? You would think because there is OLED into micro-OLED that the screens would have impeccable motion clarity, think again, the short history of vr headset using micro-OLED are all showing very bad motion blur (beyond, arpara 5k...) I don't know if they don't master the technology yet but again the fact that Meganex only showed a static scene could be to also hide this issue. -Bad Performances 📉 What GPUs on earth will run games at 7104×3840 90fps, not even the unreleased RTX5090 and unless you want to play Tetris you will have to reduce the resolution which spoil a bit the whole thing. -No 🚫eye 👀tracking despite the price This could have helped running the headset more smoothly with foveated rendering among all the other benefit of eye tracking -Price 💰 💸 1,899$ + 2 base stations 298$ + controllers 279$ + RTX5090 ~2000$ + a wireless audio solution + taxes + delivery 🥶 -Overheating 🔥, fan noise ✈, microphone quality 🎙, barrel distortion🛢, chromatic aberration 🚥 ? We lack a lot of infos, if anyone could provide some it would be nice. A vr headset is a whole and one or two missteps can ruin the whole experience, I wouldn't recommend buying blindly, we need proper reviews. Now to be clear, I'm happy about any company giving a try to advance vr but I feel like it might be realistically a bit too soon for those specs
Yes!! Love this!! Also, if Japan has this coming out I imagine Valve coming out with something similar soon. Well, at least I hope so. I am looking forward to Valve's new lineup considering Microsoft just screwed all of us.
It looks super good, but I find myself wondering if this is a replacement to the non 8k version, or if that under 1700 usd version they mentioned to you then, is still going to come. I also would like to ask if you can ask them if they ever plan to add AMD support like Pimax has begun doing. The website says it only works on /with Nvidia GPU's.
@@ji3200 thanks for the input, yeah I can't go backwards in lense quality, you literally look straight through them the entire time, almost the most important thing
As a Beyond daily driver, I can agree. The lenses sweet spot is so small that I had to get 2 new face gaskets as well as an ipd adjustment after purchasing mine. I noticed a lot of glare and chromatic aberration as well. You get mild ghosting in some high contrast scenes too. It's sad that I was more wow'd by the quest pro and 3 because of the difference the lenses make. I'm really looking forward to the next small form factor headset that has lenses that compete with the quest 3/pro as well as have microOLED panels.
Having a headset that you can flip up has always been something I've wanted in a VR headset design. Mainly because of developing VR games and find it frustrating to have to put the headset on and off when making small changes and re-running. This makes sense in other uses as well, rather than using pass through and not being able to talk to people without it being a bit weird.
Itd be lit for a vr racing sim, when you mod assetto and you're trying to fine tune a car you modify or ai, it'd be nice to not take the headset off over and over. My poor index cable has been through the ringer cuz of it
to be fair, being so light, I've never had an issue with lifting the Bigscreen Beyond like a pair of sunglasses on top of my head or putting them back on (custom face mask = instant sweet spot)
Wow! I think after years of iterations and false starts, sounds like they finally got it. And damn I did not expect this. It sounds like every box on my checklist is ticked. Insane.
@@Sacred-Lotus true, but for me personally I have to say that eye tracking isn't a must. Its a bonus. All the crucial necessaries are there with this at least! 200hz would be perfection too but 90hz micro-OLED will feel closer to 120hz lcd anyway, its so good.
@@zackmac5917You forgot the rendering resolution - *Dual 4K screen* . Without eye tracking and forveated rendering, even a 4090 will be struggling to reach 50～60 fps on detailed scenes.
@@Sacred-Lotus true - though I guess it depends if we can get away with running it at the resolution of the displays. I think a 4090 and above could be alright with that. If you're hitting just the max resolution of the displays, it'll be way better than the best out there atm, like Crystal Light, regardless of not supersampling for barrel distortion. Running a Crystal Light at the render resolution required to accommodate for barrel distortion, would take you to a similar render resolution as the resolution of these displays. Yet just running it at this resolution on Meganex, not accommodating for sbarrel distortion, would look significantly better. I think a 4090 and above can do it. Not the best, but it will work. You do want the best you can get. This is going to be a top end vr system. I will be looking to upgrade to a 5090 when the time comes. But yeah, eye tracking with foveated rendering would be great. Is there much on SteamVR that supports it?
👍Innovation going in the right direction. However, the lack of inside out tracking, audio and perhaps eye tracking (at this price point) is a no go for me. Will wait for crystal super (albeit not my favorite size and form) as my G2 replacement for MSFS/DCS.
@@powerhouse884 PCVR of course pushing the boundaries for VR. Imagine if Meta stuck with PCVR instead of moving thecindustry towards standalone. We would have got here faster.
Shiftall has a very spotty track record actually releasing any of its products, especially outside Japan, so I'll believe it only when they start shipping. Yes, it's not so much their fault when the supply chain just wasn't working out despite promises, but nonetheless. Otherwise, yeah, perfect little device. If I don't get a Beyond before this ships, I'll consider dropping two grands on it.
@@FPChris Very, very true, but as long as the game engine is pegged to, say, a 0.02301% (or thereabouts, of course) workload then maybe 90fps is doable at 2 x 4k. In any rate, yes, gfx complexity would be severely compromised - you'd be a long, long way off using your dGPU to the max.
@@yukihiroshishido8093 imagine spemding 2000 for an 5090, then 2k for this Megane Vr and even base stations for those who dont have it.. 5000 usd or more for vr is absurd and a waste of money tbh
Love everything so far…with exception of need of lighthouse (which I don’t presently own). Recently got PCL and super happy for now. But great to see progress.
Waiting for all the new headsets, but this is at the top of my list so far. Unless something with a bigger FOV comes out. I'll take small hits for a bigger FOV.
Pretty exciting piece of tech. Really well designed with all the features and comfort that VR enthusiasts really appreciate. Too pricey for me but each iteration means the technology will trickle down to other devices. We need competition in this market.
Its lack of eye tracking capability is a big concern. For stereoscopic rendering with *Dual 4K screen* , *forveated rendering* is a *MUST Have* , otherwise this HMD can render even a 4090 down to its knees, barely go past 60FPS (except for very simplistic scenes, you could easily push the pipeline past thousands of FPS with onky a box and a plane 😁). Rendering on Varjo HMD has already proven to be a daunting task for 4090 w/o forveated rendering (2880 x 2720 per Eye). Not to say 3840 x 3840 or 4320 x 4320. Lighthouse tracking is good despite many dislike its one time setup and additional base station costs. It allows *less circuitry & battery on your head* , much less latency, and much less error-prone than the inside-out camera based tracking. Keep HMD lighter and simpler. Lastly, the price *US$1899 Only for 1 Headset* without controllers, base stations, etc is kinda too luxrious for the majority (>97%) of casual VR gamers. 😅 Can't it be cheaper with lower resolution and higher refresh rate (>90Hz)？
Very very true, but IMO if everything else pans out (good FOV, good pancake edge to edge clarity, bright enough mOLED, hopefully higher than 90 hz refresh rate support) I would say that even running this at a way lower resolution (even just 2k per eye for easy scaling) will be way worth it for many. You of course don't get the detail and sharpness, but just not seeing the pixel structure anymore would be a plus. > Lighthouse tracking is good despite many dislike its one time setup and additional base station costs. My biggest issue with Lighthouse tracking is the very prominent high pitch noise the base stations make. This is with having RMA'd both base stations to Valve (when I still had an Index) having had them mounted to the wall, standing on a carbet, the floor..., changing radio frequences and all that. It annoyed me (well into my 30s so my hearing can't be all that amazing even) enough to let me go Quest 3 instead of BigScreen Beyond. > much less latency, and much less error-prone than the inside-out camera based tracking. I am too lazy to search for it but camera based inside out tracking actually has a lower latency than Lighthouse tracking according to a paper that is public. I personally also found my Quest Pro controllers (self tracked inside out) on the Q3 to be as precise as my Index controllers (with both basically feeling the same).
No news on eye tracking, so probably not. For dual 4K screen stereoscopic rendering, forveated rendering is a *MUST Have* , otherwise this HMD can render an 4090 down to its knees, barely go past 65～70 FPS (except for very simplistic scenes, you could easily go past thousands FPS with a box and a plane 😁)
Hello, Sebastian :) I remember that video perfectly well , and the same person who flashes in this video presented a prototype to you and a companion . And in my opinion, this helmet is from Panasonic. This instance looks just fine, finally something really convenient and apparently
For a professional VR headset, where visuals are the top priority, this price seems reasonable. I’d love to see a 2-4K consumer version with a price point that competes with Bigscreen Beyond's headset in the future.
@@legendp2011 well! Quest 3 has excellent lcd display. Sometimes it really takes me by surprise how sharp, vivid and bright it looks. Even the blacks look pretty good for lcd.
@@swifty1969 Meta can launch microled displays, for small size, this technology is already mature and cheaper to produce than micro oled. But they prefer to keep it for later...No urge for them to launch a such product now, because people stupidly will buy a Quest3 and...same for the 4
Great video thank you. For me I would like a headset with these lenses / screens etc but I'm happy for a bigger form factor to scrap the lighthouse tracking It feels like there are a lot of headsets that have 90% of what we want but none tick all the boxes lol
Wow at least based on your initial impressions it seems to have The Beyond beat in every area except looks (this one is personal but I doubt many will are you The Beyond looks worse) and the custom fit interface (which some people see as a drawback because they can’t share it). Well I guess The Beyond could be lower on price too since I haven’t heard an official price for The Megane X. Such an exciting time for PCVR fans and thanks for the video!
Finally! I'm excited to buy this and hopefully replace my main vr headset. Woooooah. Good binocular overlap as well?!?! I'm sold. I imagine the panels themselves make this headset so damn expensive.
This looks awesome and I'm very happy for Shiftall, but that price is going to make it extremely slow to pick up if it will manage to at all. If they could get it down to even the price of the Bigscreen Beyond then they would have a much more competitive product.
Pancake lenses and an OLED screen? Isn’t that the perfect combination? Being able to push in and expand out the viewer makes it look easy to adjust. This may be another incredible VR option
This is a great headset *IF* it delivers what it promises, even at this $1900 price point. People do seem to overlook some stuff when it comes to this form factor, as this is a somewhat new 'type' of HMD the only truly comparable headset is the Bigscreen Beyond, now that that's out of the way here are some responses to people complaining or saying that this will never sell: "Too expensive" This is a top-end enthusiast grade headset, if this is "too expensive" for you its clearly not meant for you, Display and VR tech is currently not advanced enough to make $500 headsets with these specs. "No eye tracking?!" If people want it that badly this is theoretically possible to addon via a mod just like the BSB. "Why does it not have inside-out camera-based tracking?!" Again, 'enthusiast grade', base stations have typically better tracking quality, this also reduces size and weight of the headset. Another thing to consider is controllers and FBT. "No audio solution?!" Audio is subjective, and most enthusiasts will have better solutions. Admittedly though it would be nice to see a hard style strap with integrated audio just like the BSB has. "100 degree FOV sucks!!" Like I said this is a fairly new form factor, compare this things FOV to the BSB and they are pretty similar, It's just simply a limitation of the size. If you don't like it go back to other headsets that have more. Now some other things to consider, mostly just direct comparisons: 1. *IF* these lenses are better then the Bigscreen Beyond, such as glare, sweet spot, and edge to edge clarity, then it is a serious upgrade. 2. These displays are a MUCH higher resolution, and from what I've heard higher brightness then the BSB displays. 3. Due to a universal gasket and IPD adjustment you can share this headset, unlike the BSB, that also means no IPhone requirement or needing to send it back for replacements if the IPD is wrong. 4. If what's said in the video is true and the binocular overlap as well as vertical field of view are as good as he says then that's amazing. 5. A front to back top strap is possible to add, they specify on their website. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not shilling out for this company or their product, I'm just happy MeganeX and Bigscreen are pushing this form factor forward, its something the PCVR market really needs. Hopefully that sheds some light on it, and if this headset is as good as it seems, it is going to be amazing. We're just gonna have to wait for more reviews to make sure.
Love all the ideas and concepts, but stripping it clean means its directly competing with the Beyond... which is like, half the price if they are launching at that price. Only real benefit are the displays (that no modern graphics card could easily run) and the mounting method. Which is quite nice, don't get me wrong! I think the only real hitch is that they haven't really successfully shipped any of their previous designs yet.
The way the glasses swing up, it's just like a set of military NVG, what a great idea, it's kinda obvious when you look at it. Just wish the price was more reasonable, but given time? I can see this form factor becoming the standard.
This has been done before quite a few times. The problem is that this sort of hinge doesn't hold the headset tight to the face, and so you loose a few IPD points.
Finally a potential replacement for my G2. I want good PCVR visuals but cannot compromise on comfort. I have an 8kx and use it sometimes for fun, but really need a comfortable light and small headset, so I doubt the Pimax Crystal Light would be good enough. I really considered the Big Screen Beyond but saw so many bad reviews about ipd problems and terrible glare. This may be double the price, but if it is better visuals without the fails of the BSB then I sure would try it. Not too sure about SHIFTALL in the international market at this point as they don't seem to have an established consumer market track record.
Will this one work natively with Linux? Still holding out for a next generation one... Index 2. But this one was not on my radar and sounds really good!
@@Taikaru yeah... a regular displayport cable cannot handle that many pixels so it uses a form of compression called DSC.This essentially allows for a significantly larger throughput of the displayport cable at an almost loseless quality. "*Note: The product will not operate with GPUs other than those listed above, such as the AMD Radeon series." - pulled from the shiftfall website.
i love this form factor. nice. 1) add battery in back strap with Wifi 7 (for very very high speed transmission), Bluetooth. and it is standalone, ultra light and comfortable google. 2) imagine can clip/connect night vision cam "(XRB-1351-S65) SIONYX offers standardized camera core components and camera modules with a variety of lens options to meet our clients’ requirements, 2nd Gen SIONYX low light technology delivers 0.5 mLux performance Packaged camera core with lens option is daytime safe with high reliability." And can switch passtrough normal cam to night vision or mini thermal cam, can overlay thermal over nightvision...loveeee
@@AlexysRM I'm aware of that. Foveated rendering helps performance around 20%, so it does also in Pimax Crystal. Both have foveated rendering and eye tracking, and still this MeganeX has 8k pixels vs 5k in the Crystal.
Great. A few things come to mind. Current 3d full sbs movie is 3820x1080. The height is too short for this headset. Even a 4k 3820x2160 is still too short. Current game included graphical assets does not include such high resolution. Thats mean when play games or watch movie. They will just zoom it to full screen. Which will caused lack of sharpness. But, of course, it is a future device that has to wait for content.
I like how they mount it to the headstrap with what looks like someting from a night vision army helmet mount, that gives it a lot of adjustment and flip-up ability. Those things are expensive though
Great review, thanks! Personally I do not mind that it is lighthouse tracked, I have Reverb G2 en before that an Index. The headset tracking of the G2 is fine but that of the controllers is not, so therefore the lighthouse preference. Also I hope they’ll come up with an audio solution
It looks like a clever design for the Headstrap. I like the move in and out with the flip up feature. But, Pimax Crystal Light is going to be my PCVR headset for many moons 🌙. I don’t need another headset I just need more amazing games. But, this headset is definitely impressive. Thanks for sharing. You’re Awesome! My friend… 😉👌🙋🏻♂️🫶
You need more amazing games??? You never heard UEVR mod? We got way too many and i don't even know if i can keep up with 13,000 Unreal engine 4,5 games 😂
@ji3200 Yes, this UEVR injector is an amazing mod when it works properly. It is frustrating for me every time I try to get into a game. I always have a struggle finding the perfect settings. I still haven't been able to get Dead Island 2 working with it. I know it works because I have seen RUclips videos of people playing it with UEVR. I try to play Black Myth Wukong using the UEVR, and it isn't a great experience. I can only manage to get excellent visuals or excellent performance, not both. Note: I am using a Pimax Crystal Light with 4090 card. I really want an official virtual reality game that doesn't require all this tinkering. If the UEVR injector worked flawlessly for me. I would probably enjoy it more. I don't mind using playing with a controller. Luke Ross mods are cool but again lack the feel of an official game made for VR.
For VRChat people on Lighthouse gear with FBT and who have Diver-X, UDCAP, or Immersive Gloves coming in the future, this is a no brainer upgrade from the Index. From the Beyond, it might possibly be worth it. Would be nice to get a more details on the lenses and the comfort of the headstrap. Wonder why they aren't utilizing that slot on the forehead for a top strap yet?
This MeganeX definitely looks exciting and solves many problems. My concerns are #1 cost, and then how durable the lens coating will be, no built-in audio solution, and no info on a microphone. It will also be interesting to see how they solve refresh rate through the PC connection.
that accordion gasket is what they used back in the day for cameras im pretty sure. how does it feel though? the structure does seem flimsy, hopefully they allow third party straps.
PSVR2 has a similar gasket arrangement - I find it very comfortable. Of course it only works if the HMD is supported correctly by the halo strap so the gasket isn't bearing weight. Overall, I prefer it to squishing down foam padding.
Hmmm… from their website: “Please note that orders cannot be cancelled, returned or refunded once confirmed.” That’s a big red flag to me. I preordered the Reverb G2 & wasn’t charged til it shipped many months later.
I agree, the future of VR is moving in that direction: light headset, 4K microOled panels, pancake lenses, built-in diottical correction. But not with the base stations tracking. In my opinion.
Base station tracking will always make more sense for PCVR. If you are gonna be wired to a powerful desktop PC you might as well have mounted tracking lighthouses which free up space and weight from the headset.
@@mixedrealityTV in the video you flipped it up with both hands, one hand to release a catch in the middle and the other hand to lift. if it can be flipped up by one hand just by pressing a button on the side wouldn't that of been worth showing? or it it just a prototype and the button feature comes later?
@@abeidiot and compute and cooling, you don't simply transmit the image for 2 4k screens *and* cameras *and* sensors *and then* compute tracking matrices in time for the next frame at like 120fps, bundle of cables ofc skipped
before right this moment, I had never heard of meganex or their superlight 8k, but it sounds really impressive and I'd like to see and know more about it. are these final production models or prototypes that you are testing at this event? what kind of tracking / control system does it use? is it pc vr only or does it have an integrated computer? - what's the pass-through/MR camera situation? I want to know everything!
Hi One Question about the meganex for the ones who have the pomax crystal. Do you feel juddering ? The pimax on higwarts legacy for example makes the image blurry when you turn the caméra with the controller. Not when you turn your actual head with the headset, but when you turn with the controller. Is it the case with meganex also , or the image stays perfectly sharp when you move around your character with the controller ???
Love the form factor! Impressive resolution but no GPU will be able to make use of its capabilities for quite a while: I mean, render 2x4k at 72hz or more... no way. Not to mention the price. But it pushes the tech in the right direction, so kudos there!
One gpu no, but 2 would be fine. A gpu for an eye. I mean this is the future, you can’t make gpus just bigger and bigger, there will be a moment when they’ll be sold in pairs.
needs a headstrap with audio like the beyond go for sure. though it looks like the ports are all on the underside front. which is a terrible place to have an audio cable hanging down if thats where it is.. when you want to tilt the headset up youre going to have a wire in your face...
This headset looks perfect from what I can see. Might even be a worthy upgrade to the Crystal. Any idea on brightness? I think the dude in the video mentioned something about still tweaking that? Any idea of any audio solutions they'll have with this, or will we need to bring our own? Still not a fan of that name, though, lol, but the product, on paper at least, looks like what we've been asking for.
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Let me shine a light 🔦on some mega concerns 😱I have about the Meganex Superlight 8K:
-Mega COMPRESSION 🗜 ?
Shiftall didn't provide info on the Display Port's version, so they probably use the most common older one being 1.4 😭 limited at 25.92 Gbps.
Manufacturers struggles to make DP2.1 cables longer than a meter (3.28 feets) and most GPUs don't event have this version so I higly doubt meganx has it.
The headset (at 7104×3840 90hz 10bit) should require ~77.70Gbps for video only which is 3x above the limitation so massive compression that result in visual degradation and artefacts expected.
This tends to show way more on detailed areas, text, dynamic scenes and guess who showed 5min of an unicolored parked car on an untextured road.
The frame rate could have been limited to reduce the compression during the demo since nothing was moving and people would not have picked it up.
Compression/Upscaling is already annoying with the beyond, expect way worse.
-Super Motion BLURRY 👻 ?
You would think because there is OLED into micro-OLED that the screens would have impeccable motion clarity, think again, the short history of vr headset using micro-OLED are all showing very bad motion blur (beyond, arpara 5k...) I don't know if they don't master the technology yet but again the fact that Meganex only showed a static scene could be to also hide this issue.
-Bad Performances 📉
What GPUs on earth will run games at 7104×3840 90fps, not even the unreleased RTX5090 and unless you want to play Tetris you will have to reduce the resolution which spoil a bit the whole thing.
-No 🚫eye 👀tracking despite the price
This could have helped running the headset more smoothly with foveated rendering among all the other benefit of eye tracking
-Price 💰 💸
1,899$ + 2 base stations 298$ + controllers 279$ + RTX5090 ~2000$ + a wireless audio solution + taxes + delivery 🥶
-Overheating 🔥, fan noise ✈, microphone quality 🎙, barrel distortion🛢, chromatic aberration 🚥 ?
We lack a lot of infos, if anyone could provide some it would be nice. A vr headset is a whole and one or two missteps can ruin the whole experience, I wouldn't recommend buying blindly, we need proper reviews.
Now to be clear, I'm happy about any company giving a try to advance vr but I feel like it might be realistically a bit too soon for those specs
Yes!! Love this!! Also, if Japan has this coming out I imagine Valve coming out with something similar soon. Well, at least I hope so. I am looking forward to Valve's new lineup considering Microsoft just screwed all of us.
It looks super good, but I find myself wondering if this is a replacement to the non 8k version, or if that under 1700 usd version they mentioned to you then, is still going to come. I also would like to ask if you can ask them if they ever plan to add AMD support like Pimax has begun doing. The website says it only works on /with Nvidia GPU's.
The same with inside out tracking, I can buy it...
No eye tracking and way overpriced.
It’s like a Bigscreen Beyond that you can share with friends without needing them to have the same shape head! And with higher resolution!
and also with much better lenses. BSB lenses suck from what I heard.
@@angrybeaver6667 its worst glare and sweet spot i ever try in last 8 years. Glare and sweet spot never bother me but Bigscreen did
@@ji3200 thanks for the input, yeah I can't go backwards in lense quality, you literally look straight through them the entire time, almost the most important thing
@@Kryojenix Also doesn't required you to buy a base station set and own the latest Iphone
As a Beyond daily driver, I can agree. The lenses sweet spot is so small that I had to get 2 new face gaskets as well as an ipd adjustment after purchasing mine. I noticed a lot of glare and chromatic aberration as well. You get mild ghosting in some high contrast scenes too. It's sad that I was more wow'd by the quest pro and 3 because of the difference the lenses make. I'm really looking forward to the next small form factor headset that has lenses that compete with the quest 3/pro as well as have microOLED panels.
This form factor is perfect
Thank you Sebastian for paying the Tokyo trip from your own pocket, just to bring us those great PCVR impressions.
Having a headset that you can flip up has always been something I've wanted in a VR headset design. Mainly because of developing VR games and find it frustrating to have to put the headset on and off when making small changes and re-running. This makes sense in other uses as well, rather than using pass through and not being able to talk to people without it being a bit weird.
thats one reason i loved my lenovo explorer.
huh..? this isnt new dood. you can flip up the Hp reverb g2 as well.. im sure there's others too
@@heyjeySigma yeah not new but not wide spread and be better if was more common.
Itd be lit for a vr racing sim, when you mod assetto and you're trying to fine tune a car you modify or ai, it'd be nice to not take the headset off over and over. My poor index cable has been through the ringer cuz of it
to be fair, being so light, I've never had an issue with lifting the Bigscreen Beyond like a pair of sunglasses on top of my head or putting them back on (custom face mask = instant sweet spot)
future vr is coming strong ❤
Yes, but not for products with lighthouse tracking.
@@mitcherny6965 or lacking eye-tracking
Not while FOV gets swept under the carpet:(
Sigh... [pulls out wallet]
Sigh... [pulls out kidney]
@@davefa1432 😭
Sigh... [pulls out]
sigh... [doesnt pull out wallet and stops watching this youtube video]
Eats their souls from the sighs... [Pulls out their wallets to pay for it]
Wow!
I think after years of iterations and false starts, sounds like they finally got it.
And damn I did not expect this.
It sounds like every box on my checklist is ticked. Insane.
my exact thoughts! They nailed the form factor. This makes the Apple Vision Pro look like a clunky dinosaur.
Except the lack of 1 point eye tracking. If there is eye tracking capability at 200Hz, this headset is GOLD.
@@Sacred-Lotus true, but for me personally I have to say that eye tracking isn't a must. Its a bonus. All the crucial necessaries are there with this at least! 200hz would be perfection too but 90hz micro-OLED will feel closer to 120hz lcd anyway, its so good.
@@zackmac5917You forgot the rendering resolution - *Dual 4K screen* . Without eye tracking and forveated rendering, even a 4090 will be struggling to reach 50～60 fps on detailed scenes.
@@Sacred-Lotus true - though I guess it depends if we can get away with running it at the resolution of the displays. I think a 4090 and above could be alright with that.
If you're hitting just the max resolution of the displays, it'll be way better than the best out there atm, like Crystal Light, regardless of not supersampling for barrel distortion. Running a Crystal Light at the render resolution required to accommodate for barrel distortion, would take you to a similar render resolution as the resolution of these displays.
Yet just running it at this resolution on Meganex, not accommodating for sbarrel distortion, would look significantly better.
I think a 4090 and above can do it. Not the best, but it will work.
You do want the best you can get. This is going to be a top end vr system. I will be looking to upgrade to a 5090 when the time comes.
But yeah, eye tracking with foveated rendering would be great. Is there much on SteamVR that supports it?
Honestly You do really good job for VR community. Kudos Sebastian.
Just aesthetically this looks REALLY cool.
Very intriguing first impressions Seb (loving the T-Shirt btw). 🤟
4k per screen but no eye tracking
So no way to run that with good FPS even with RTX 5090, or maybe x)
👍Innovation going in the right direction. However, the lack of inside out tracking, audio and perhaps eye tracking (at this price point) is a no go for me. Will wait for crystal super (albeit not my favorite size and form) as my G2 replacement for MSFS/DCS.
THIS^ and the "BigScreen Beyond" are the perfect size VR headset to have as industry standard.
@@powerhouse884 PCVR of course pushing the boundaries for VR.
Imagine if Meta stuck with PCVR instead of moving thecindustry towards standalone.
We would have got here faster.
@@zackmac5917 Sadly VALVE and HTC still make horrible bulky headsets.
@@zackmac5917 standalone is great too
This headset looks amazing, Bigscreen Beyond on steroids.
My computer and gfx card melted playing this video.
LMFAO, totally dude
Well - We all waited for something like this! Flight Simmers will be pretty pleased.
Sim racing too!
Shiftall has a very spotty track record actually releasing any of its products, especially outside Japan, so I'll believe it only when they start shipping. Yes, it's not so much their fault when the supply chain just wasn't working out despite promises, but nonetheless. Otherwise, yeah, perfect little device. If I don't get a Beyond before this ships, I'll consider dropping two grands on it.
And a beefy gfx card to drive this HMD 😅
If you think they have a spotty track record you should look up something called the DecaGear.
8K you say. That's a lotta pixels to push. This look like a very spicy meatball. I like it.
Its not true 8k doe i hate when companies make sh*t up just to sell a product, but yes its a nice resolution
@@nokteur1429 No pc is going to push even TWO 4k res images at 90fps+.
@@FPChris Very, very true, but as long as the game engine is pegged to, say, a 0.02301% (or thereabouts, of course) workload then maybe 90fps is doable at 2 x 4k.
In any rate, yes, gfx complexity would be severely compromised - you'd be a long, long way off using your dGPU to the max.
all the more reason to spend 2000 USD on the 5090 XD
@@yukihiroshishido8093 imagine spemding 2000 for an 5090, then 2k for this Megane Vr and even base stations for those who dont have it..
5000 usd or more for vr is absurd and a waste of money tbh
Probably need a great graphiccard to support 8k, dynamic foeavated rendering might have helped
With this, I could finally watch 4K VR content while taking a nap on my bed.
Cheers this looks awesome, now please hurry up and bring it to the UK Shiftall!
bravo six going dark.
new level of immersion unlocked
This may be my next headset
Love everything so far…with exception of need of lighthouse (which I don’t presently own). Recently got PCL and super happy for now. But great to see progress.
The night vision unicorn flip design is actually pretty smart tho imma wait till this comes out for reviews then I might consider it
I wish i could afford this for DCS, what an absolute dream
You’re upload sooo fast!!👍
Waiting for all the new headsets, but this is at the top of my list so far. Unless something with a bigger FOV comes out. I'll take small hits for a bigger FOV.
Pretty exciting piece of tech. Really well designed with all the features and comfort that VR enthusiasts really appreciate. Too pricey for me but each iteration means the technology will trickle down to other devices. We need competition in this market.
This is awesome, thank you!
Its lack of eye tracking capability is a big concern.
For stereoscopic rendering with *Dual 4K screen* , *forveated rendering* is a *MUST Have* , otherwise this HMD can render even a 4090 down to its knees, barely go past 60FPS (except for very simplistic scenes, you could easily push the pipeline past thousands of FPS with onky a box and a plane 😁). Rendering on Varjo HMD has already proven to be a daunting task for 4090 w/o forveated rendering (2880 x 2720 per Eye). Not to say 3840 x 3840 or 4320 x 4320. Lighthouse tracking is good despite many dislike its one time setup and additional base station costs. It allows *less circuitry & battery on your head* , much less latency, and much less error-prone than the inside-out camera based tracking. Keep HMD lighter and simpler.
Lastly, the price *US$1899 Only for 1 Headset* without controllers, base stations, etc is kinda too luxrious for the majority (>97%) of casual VR gamers. 😅 Can't it be cheaper with lower resolution and higher refresh rate (>90Hz)？
Very very true, but IMO if everything else pans out (good FOV, good pancake edge to edge clarity, bright enough mOLED, hopefully higher than 90 hz refresh rate support) I would say that even running this at a way lower resolution (even just 2k per eye for easy scaling) will be way worth it for many. You of course don't get the detail and sharpness, but just not seeing the pixel structure anymore would be a plus.
> Lighthouse tracking is good despite many dislike its one time setup and additional base station costs.
My biggest issue with Lighthouse tracking is the very prominent high pitch noise the base stations make. This is with having RMA'd both base stations to Valve (when I still had an Index) having had them mounted to the wall, standing on a carbet, the floor..., changing radio frequences and all that.
It annoyed me (well into my 30s so my hearing can't be all that amazing even) enough to let me go Quest 3 instead of BigScreen Beyond.
> much less latency, and much less error-prone than the inside-out camera based tracking.
I am too lazy to search for it but camera based inside out tracking actually has a lower latency than Lighthouse tracking according to a paper that is public. I personally also found my Quest Pro controllers (self tracked inside out) on the Q3 to be as precise as my Index controllers (with both basically feeling the same).
@@Games-tt9huhow are you liking the q3?
there is no mention of the fov, its probably
Overall headset looks AMAZING - it features everything consumer needs.
I want to pre-order it, but can we trust Shiftall to actually ship these in the spring? I don't want to be out $1900.
Yes, this is backed by Panasonic. They will deliver.
Just wait more reviews
@@mixedrealityTV Panasonic sold them off to CREEK & RIVER in january of this year
Susge. Also Dan gay.
“Please note that orders cannot be cancelled, returned or refunded once confirmed.”
Does it have eye tracking? That would be quite useful for the resolution- almost necessary. Still, very exciting indeed!
This thing is so depressing. We are almost in 2025, and this people want to ship a headset without eye-tracking. It is simple outrageous.
No news on eye tracking, so probably not. For dual 4K screen stereoscopic rendering, forveated rendering is a *MUST Have* , otherwise this HMD can render an 4090 down to its knees, barely go past 65～70 FPS (except for very simplistic scenes, you could easily go past thousands FPS with a box and a plane 😁)
yea absolutely need eye tracking
Not many games support dfr now
@@okkimakki chicken and egg problem. pc vr NEEDS dfr
i appreciate them not sticking a big bulking battery on the back of your head so you can use it lying down
I just bought a Bigscreen Beyond, but will seriously be considering this once it is officially released next year. :)
Hello, Sebastian :) I remember that video perfectly well , and the same person who flashes in this video presented a prototype to you and a companion . And in my opinion, this helmet is from Panasonic. This instance looks just fine, finally something really convenient and apparently
This is incredible. It's almost what we all want. This headset with passthrough and battery and I would happily buy for £1500-2000!
A battery will kill its main feature: being superlight.
I want one, this looks perfect
We can't wait for the follow up videos! Stop the torture!
@@hanskarlsson3778 haha...
Go to the MRTV Discord, many more background video there!
Excellent. I'm interesting in buying one of these if it works well in DCS.
For a professional VR headset, where visuals are the top priority, this price seems reasonable. I’d love to see a 2-4K consumer version with a price point that competes with Bigscreen Beyond's headset in the future.
Unfortunately micro oled panels are difficult to produce in high yields, that is why quest 3 does not have them nor future ones like quest 4 and such.
@@swifty1969 I would be happy with an 2160per eye LCD version if it could be $600. just want something lighter I can actually afford
@@legendp2011 well! Quest 3 has excellent lcd display. Sometimes it really takes me by surprise how sharp, vivid and bright it looks. Even the blacks look pretty good for lcd.
@@swifty1969 I already own the quest 3. I would like something lighter, been having kneck pain recently. this is 180grams, quest 3 is 510 grams
@@swifty1969 Meta can launch microled displays, for small size, this technology is already mature and cheaper to produce than micro oled.
But they prefer to keep it for later...No urge for them to launch a such product now, because people stupidly will buy a Quest3 and...same for the 4
Great video thank you.
For me I would like a headset with these lenses / screens etc but I'm happy for a bigger form factor to scrap the lighthouse tracking
It feels like there are a lot of headsets that have 90% of what we want but none tick all the boxes lol
Would have loved this, had it been like half that price.
Fantastic! Please ask for dark scenes in the demo!!
Wow at least based on your initial impressions it seems to have The Beyond beat in every area except looks (this one is personal but I doubt many will are you The Beyond looks worse) and the custom fit interface (which some people see as a drawback because they can’t share it). Well I guess The Beyond could be lower on price too since I haven’t heard an official price for The Megane X. Such an exciting time for PCVR fans and thanks for the video!
I swear by the time this arrives in Europe and I have gotten one, Valve will announce the Index 2 a month later, with even better tech and cheaper
OMG, this is soooo nice. I just hope it works best. OLED 4k? nice. I'll most likely get this.
Finally! I'm excited to buy this and hopefully replace my main vr headset. Woooooah. Good binocular overlap as well?!?! I'm sold. I imagine the panels themselves make this headset so damn expensive.
This looks awesome and I'm very happy for Shiftall, but that price is going to make it extremely slow to pick up if it will manage to at all. If they could get it down to even the price of the Bigscreen Beyond then they would have a much more competitive product.
This is what im waiting for, a native PCVR.
Pancake lenses and an OLED screen? Isn’t that the perfect combination? Being able to push in and expand out the viewer makes it look easy to adjust. This may be another incredible VR option
Actually microOLED screens which is even better.
@@sturmx96 microled screens are even better and in the next future, cheaper to produce...
This is a great headset *IF* it delivers what it promises, even at this $1900 price point.
People do seem to overlook some stuff when it comes to this form factor, as this is a somewhat new 'type' of HMD the only truly comparable headset is the Bigscreen Beyond, now that that's out of the way here are some responses to people complaining or saying that this will never sell:
"Too expensive" This is a top-end enthusiast grade headset, if this is "too expensive" for you its clearly not meant for you, Display and VR tech is currently not advanced enough to make $500 headsets with these specs.
"No eye tracking?!" If people want it that badly this is theoretically possible to addon via a mod just like the BSB.
"Why does it not have inside-out camera-based tracking?!" Again, 'enthusiast grade', base stations have typically better tracking quality, this also reduces size and weight of the headset. Another thing to consider is controllers and FBT.
"No audio solution?!" Audio is subjective, and most enthusiasts will have better solutions. Admittedly though it would be nice to see a hard style strap with integrated audio just like the BSB has.
"100 degree FOV sucks!!" Like I said this is a fairly new form factor, compare this things FOV to the BSB and they are pretty similar, It's just simply a limitation of the size. If you don't like it go back to other headsets that have more.
Now some other things to consider, mostly just direct comparisons:
1. *IF* these lenses are better then the Bigscreen Beyond, such as glare, sweet spot, and edge to edge clarity, then it is a serious upgrade.
2. These displays are a MUCH higher resolution, and from what I've heard higher brightness then the BSB displays.
3. Due to a universal gasket and IPD adjustment you can share this headset, unlike the BSB, that also means no IPhone requirement or needing to send it back for replacements if the IPD is wrong.
4. If what's said in the video is true and the binocular overlap as well as vertical field of view are as good as he says then that's amazing.
5. A front to back top strap is possible to add, they specify on their website.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not shilling out for this company or their product, I'm just happy MeganeX and Bigscreen are pushing this form factor forward, its something the PCVR market really needs.
Hopefully that sheds some light on it, and if this headset is as good as it seems, it is going to be amazing. We're just gonna have to wait for more reviews to make sure.
Love all the ideas and concepts, but stripping it clean means its directly competing with the Beyond... which is like, half the price if they are launching at that price.
Only real benefit are the displays (that no modern graphics card could easily run) and the mounting method. Which is quite nice, don't get me wrong!
I think the only real hitch is that they haven't really successfully shipped any of their previous designs yet.
The way the glasses swing up, it's just like a set of military NVG, what a great idea, it's kinda obvious when you look at it. Just wish the price was more reasonable, but given time?
I can see this form factor becoming the standard.
This has been done before quite a few times. The problem is that this sort of hinge doesn't hold the headset tight to the face, and so you loose a few IPD points.
Finally a potential replacement for my G2. I want good PCVR visuals but cannot compromise on comfort. I have an 8kx and use it sometimes for fun, but really need a comfortable light and small headset, so I doubt the Pimax Crystal Light would be good enough. I really considered the Big Screen Beyond but saw so many bad reviews about ipd problems and terrible glare. This may be double the price, but if it is better visuals without the fails of the BSB then I sure would try it. Not too sure about SHIFTALL in the international market at this point as they don't seem to have an established consumer market track record.
Looks like those lenses are also coated with grease 1:17 🙃
Really curious about the edge to edge clarity. It’s so bad in the beyond I don’t even use that headset anymore
Will this one work natively with Linux? Still holding out for a next generation one... Index 2. But this one was not on my radar and sounds really good!
probably not without alot of tinkering, too push out all those pixels it relies heavily on Nvidia software, cant even use it with an AMD card.
@@yukihiroshishido8093 Oh really??? I have an AMD card :O
@@Taikaru yeah... a regular displayport cable cannot handle that many pixels so it uses a form of compression called DSC.This essentially allows for a significantly larger throughput of the displayport cable at an almost loseless quality.
"*Note: The product will not operate with GPUs other than those listed above, such as the AMD Radeon series." - pulled from the shiftfall website.
i love this form factor. nice.
1) add battery in back strap with Wifi 7 (for very very high speed transmission), Bluetooth. and it is standalone, ultra light and comfortable google.
2) imagine can clip/connect night vision cam "(XRB-1351-S65) SIONYX offers standardized camera core components and camera modules with a variety of lens options to meet our clients’ requirements, 2nd Gen SIONYX low light technology delivers 0.5 mLux performance
Packaged camera core with lens option is daytime safe with high reliability."
And can switch passtrough normal cam to night vision or mini thermal cam, can overlay thermal over nightvision...loveeee
What to push this monster? Two upcoming 5090 in SLI?
A 4k PCVR headset with no eye-tracking...are people actually demented???Don't they understand what eye-tracking is?
@@r.m8146 I didn'\t mentioned eye tracking? Where did you pulled that info from? It has two display of 4k resolution, almost two Pimax Crystal.
@@Pe11ePD Eye tracking can help significantly reduce the GPU demands through foveated rendering.
@@AlexysRM I'm aware of that. Foveated rendering helps performance around 20%, so it does also in Pimax Crystal. Both have foveated rendering and eye tracking, and still this MeganeX has 8k pixels vs 5k in the Crystal.
One for each eye.
The way the headset is mounted reminds me of Military night vision devices.
Great. A few things come to mind.
Current 3d full sbs movie is 3820x1080.
The height is too short for this headset.
Even a 4k 3820x2160 is still too short.
Current game included graphical assets does not include such high resolution.
Thats mean when play games or watch movie. They will just zoom it to full screen.
Which will caused lack of sharpness.
But, of course, it is a future device that has to wait for content.
I like how they mount it to the headstrap with what looks like someting from a night vision army helmet mount, that gives it a lot of adjustment and flip-up ability. Those things are expensive though
Great review, thanks! Personally I do not mind that it is lighthouse tracked, I have Reverb G2 en before that an Index. The headset tracking of the G2 is fine but that of the controllers is not, so therefore the lighthouse preference. Also I hope they’ll come up with an audio solution
Looks like those army nocturnal vision glasses.
That’s pretty cool must says
It looks like a clever design for the Headstrap. I like the move in and out with the flip up feature. But, Pimax Crystal Light is going to be my PCVR headset for many moons 🌙. I don’t need another headset I just need more amazing games. But, this headset is definitely impressive. Thanks for sharing. You’re Awesome! My friend… 😉👌🙋🏻♂️🫶
You need more amazing games??? You never heard UEVR mod? We got way too many and i don't even know if i can keep up with 13,000 Unreal engine 4,5 games 😂
@ji3200 Yes, this UEVR injector is an amazing mod when it works properly. It is frustrating for me every time I try to get into a game. I always have a struggle finding the perfect settings. I still haven't been able to get Dead Island 2 working with it. I know it works because I have seen RUclips videos of people playing it with UEVR. I try to play Black Myth Wukong using the UEVR, and it isn't a great experience. I can only manage to get excellent visuals or excellent performance, not both. Note: I am using a Pimax Crystal Light with 4090 card. I really want an official virtual reality game that doesn't require all this tinkering. If the UEVR injector worked flawlessly for me. I would probably enjoy it more. I don't mind using playing with a controller. Luke Ross mods are cool but again lack the feel of an official game made for VR.
love the form factor, would like to see different head mounting options
Exciting!!!!
For VRChat people on Lighthouse gear with FBT and who have Diver-X, UDCAP, or Immersive Gloves coming in the future, this is a no brainer upgrade from the Index. From the Beyond, it might possibly be worth it. Would be nice to get a more details on the lenses and the comfort of the headstrap. Wonder why they aren't utilizing that slot on the forehead for a top strap yet?
This MeganeX definitely looks exciting and solves many problems. My concerns are #1 cost, and then how durable the lens coating will be, no built-in audio solution, and no info on a microphone. It will also be interesting to see how they solve refresh rate through the PC connection.
It does have dual microphones.
that accordion gasket is what they used back in the day for cameras im pretty sure. how does it feel though?
the structure does seem flimsy, hopefully they allow third party straps.
PSVR2 has a similar gasket arrangement - I find it very comfortable. Of course it only works if the HMD is supported correctly by the halo strap so the gasket isn't bearing weight. Overall, I prefer it to squishing down foam padding.
I pre ordered the g2 and told myself no more pre orders. Id consider this down the line though especially if it supports wireless
All also, what are the refresh rate options?
Interesting no one is talking about this!!! WTH!!!! Great COVERAGE BRO!!!
Ya. Why no one talk about this.
@@TTwk I few names like Brad Lynch and Brad are.
Hmmm… from their website:
“Please note that orders cannot be cancelled, returned or refunded once confirmed.”
That’s a big red flag to me. I preordered the Reverb G2 & wasn’t charged til it shipped many months later.
Don’t do it
I agree, the future of VR is moving in that direction: light headset, 4K microOled panels, pancake lenses, built-in diottical correction.
But not with the base stations tracking. In my opinion.
Base station tracking will always make more sense for PCVR. If you are gonna be wired to a powerful desktop PC you might as well have mounted tracking lighthouses which free up space and weight from the headset.
This is great but does it have a good pass through?
@@lraiden7 this is just like Index light house tracking headset so nope
Outstanding video! This is a REALLY exciting product- It's great to new companies shaking things up!
Outstanding job showing us this, Sebastian!
the flip up needs a button on the side that you push to make it flip up
anyway I hope they Shiftall their products out to customers
It has exactly that button.
@@mixedrealityTV in the video you flipped it up with both hands, one hand to release a catch in the middle and the other hand to lift. if it can be flipped up by one hand just by pressing a button on the side wouldn't that of been worth showing? or it it just a prototype and the button feature comes later?
Hecking sweet piece of hardware. Lighthouse => less hardware in HMD => lighter. Something for everyone who says Crystal light is too heavy.
vastly overestimating the weight of a couple of cameras and an IMU
@@abeidiot and compute and cooling, you don't simply transmit the image for 2 4k screens *and* cameras *and* sensors *and then* compute tracking matrices in time for the next frame at like 120fps, bundle of cables ofc skipped
Yes, considering that modern hi-res cameras can be fitted into a space a few millimeters thick...
would gladly trade ipd adjustment automated motors for inside out tracking.
Yeah the Q3 has cameras and a battery in the headset and weighs only like 500ish g.
before right this moment, I had never heard of meganex or their superlight 8k, but it sounds really impressive and I'd like to see and know more about it. are these final production models or prototypes that you are testing at this event? what kind of tracking / control system does it use? is it pc vr only or does it have an integrated computer? - what's the pass-through/MR camera situation? I want to know everything!
Its like valve Index. You need to buy kits
@@ji3200 so does i use index base stations and controllers? (because I already own them)
Bigscreen Beyond is almost half the price, it can actually be bought and is pretty amazing. Sure it has it's flaws but this will too.
The flip up is a developers dream. Looks good and im interested.
Too expensive for me though ...
Hi
One Question about the meganex for the ones who have the pomax crystal.
Do you feel juddering ?
The pimax on higwarts legacy for example makes the image blurry when you turn the caméra with the controller.
Not when you turn your actual head with the headset, but when you turn with the controller.
Is it the case with meganex also , or the image stays perfectly sharp when you move around your character with the controller ???
Love the form factor! Impressive resolution but no GPU will be able to make use of its capabilities for quite a while: I mean, render 2x4k at 72hz or more... no way. Not to mention the price. But it pushes the tech in the right direction, so kudos there!
One gpu no, but 2 would be fine. A gpu for an eye. I mean this is the future, you can’t make gpus just bigger and bigger, there will be a moment when they’ll be sold in pairs.
IF there was Eyetracking I would hit the preorder button right away.
When on shelves they will no doubt shift all of them
How many nits of brightness??! This is a super important spec
Flip up pass through? Nice
Looks interesting... What about audio? will there be an over-ear solution from the vendor?
needs a headstrap with audio like the beyond go for sure.
though it looks like the ports are all on the underside front. which is a terrible place to have an audio cable hanging down if thats where it is.. when you want to tilt the headset up youre going to have a wire in your face...
@@ge2719 you can tape it your own. Its very simple DIY. If you need help, just ask your daddy or mommy.
@@ji3200 do you need me to tell your mom you're having trouble with the space bar again?
Does it suffer like BSB from screens giving off heat warming your eyes which is annoying? If not that would be great
I had that problem too because of how thick custom face cushion is but this one is very thin like psvr 2 face cushion
its 4k micro OLED, which is going to generate a fair bit of heat so would not surprise me
sounds like an Immersed Visor to me (which is released 01/2025). But with the difference that its more expensive than the Immersed Visor
i think wireless module and battery in format like avp is better for this format then whirs
Sebastian, hello.And when will there be an interview with the creator of this headset and which controllers work with this headset?
"coated to prevent glare".. as the shot on screen has the lenses covered on face grease 😂
The face grease is the coating! Haha! No more glare! But also no picture! ;)
This headset looks perfect from what I can see. Might even be a worthy upgrade to the Crystal.
Any idea on brightness? I think the dude in the video mentioned something about still tweaking that? Any idea of any audio solutions they'll have with this, or will we need to bring our own?
Still not a fan of that name, though, lol, but the product, on paper at least, looks like what we've been asking for.
What about the cable hanging in the front, do they have a solution to route it through the back?
They will have it in the final unit, yes
If they do away with lighthouse tracking I might consider it
awesome. could you use perscription lenses with it?
Yes!