On Hate Speech Modi is Complicit By His Silence; It's His Duty To Speak Up- Naseeruddin Shah
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In a 34-minute interview to Karan Thapar for The Wire, Naseeruddin Shah spoke about a range of issues that have been in the news recently. They include the Information and Broadcasting Minister, Anurag Thakur’s boast that “India has everything that any developed nation in the world has”, Foreign Minister Jaishankar’s criticism that the West “has a bad habit of commenting on others … if (they) keep doing this other people will also start commenting and they will not like it when it happens” as well as the Prime Minister’s claim, made most recently at President Biden’s Summit of Democracies, that India is “the mother of democracy”.
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We respect the views n emotions of Naseeruddin Shah/ have high regard 👍🏼🙏🏼💯🇮🇳
Absolutely.
I think people who are commenting here should farm a group and spread this kind of views to more peoples because it's very clear that most of us atleast know what we need to save in our next generation and what we need to increase to save our society/ country. We all believe atleast to respect others thought process and that is what getting reduce day by day in our society . Respects others views, religion, culture , living. Live and let others live their life. Make our law take care of who is doing wrong but not the group of people by their own...love the interview and their thoughts..
Very sensible and thoughtful. Realise your responsibility as Citizens. Introspect yourself not only to Leaders but citizens too. Great Guy.
Great interview.👍
After long long long time very intresting and sensible interview
Nice to see these unbiased conversations . The one observation I have is Karan thapar should show interest and lend his ear when naseerudin shah is speaking. Karan seems to busy reading something on his desk and does not seem to show any interest to what the guest has to say. It comes across a bit rude according to me. Other than that a great interview. I don’t agree with everything that naseerudin Shah says but there are certain things that he said definitely resonates with me.
Karan Thappar u r real indian journalist....
Mr. Shah is absolutely rt. that nowadays criticism of govt. Is considered as the criticism of PM.
Critisism of PM is not criticism of country.
Absolutely right 👍
Nobody is sending you in jail for criticising pm . You are still very much enjoying your freedom . Stop lies
@@TheSachinchauhan9 But how many have been sent to... Do u hv any sense of justice or injustice. U shameless and selfish stooge of BJP Or Rss
Not pm but nation u make writing mistake bro bjp considered criticism direct insult of nation
Excellent interview. Thanks Karan for bringing wonderful people to your interview. Very thoughtful dissection.
I beg to disagree:
Mr Karan Thapar comes out
as annoyingly patronising,
irritatingly interrupting,
poisonously polarised,
deceptively disingenuous,
converting important issues
into imbalanced mudslinging:
A shame, a blemish
on the reputation of objective journalism.
*
At 18:30, 27:30, & 33:05 (see comments)
Mr Karan Thapar was not objectively minded
to point out his glaring "pot-kettle" hypocrisy
to Mr Naseeruddin Shah
genuinely upset on the subject of "hate speech",
while Islam & Qur'an have evidently been
the global fountainhead of hate speech & hate preach!
@@swamyvigyananand4779 haan pata hai bhai main khud ek muslim family se ek atheist hoon, par ek baat bataao kya sabhi log religions ko puri tarah se follow karte hain?agar follow karte toh aaj meri family Islam ke naam par bomb phodne mein hoti aur tumhari family dharm ki raksha ke naam par kayi logon ki jaan le rahi hoti, religions se nafrat karo kyunki religions kharaab hi hote hain magar use maanne wale se nahin, kyunki koi apni jagah sukoon se jeete rehta hai aur woh dange fasaad ka shikaar banjaata hai, chaahe hindu ho ya muslim, kisi aur ki sazaa kisi aur milti hai just because woh same community se hai,soch kar dekhna bura laga toh sorry🙏✌️.
@@roymiller4444 भाई तुम ने हिंदू धर्म को समझ नहीं है हिंदुओ में धर्म और अधर्म की परिभाषा है जिसमे धर्म का अर्थ होता है अहिंसा परमो धर्म यानि की शांति ही सबसे बड़ा धर्म है धर्म का अर्थ कर्तव्य सच्चाई ईमानदारी दयालुता न्याय त्याग होता है न की कोई पूजा करने तरीके को धर्म कहते है वैसे पूजा करने के तरीके को हमारे धर्म में पंथ संप्रदाय कहते है जैसे वैष्णव संप्रदाय और स्मार्त और नाथ पंथ है सभी के पूछा पाठ के अलग अलग तरीका होता है पर धर्म अर्थ सभी का एक ही होता है वह कर्तव्य सच्चाई ईमानदारी दयालुता न्याय मानवता होता है सभी जीवो की रक्षा की बात होती है
@@educationlifebase2873 Bhai Bura mat maanna but mujhe Hindi padhte mein thodi si pareshaani Hoti hai kya tum Zara isey English mein likh sakte ho sorry.
Mr Thapar loves interviewing Mr Modi's bashers. He puts words in their mouth.
*_People who want an Islamic state must leave India and go to Iran, who want Hindu rashtra must go to newly-founded Kailasa country...India is a secular country, and we want to live with harmony and peace, India belongs to Buddha, Gandhi, Lord Rama, Ambedkar and Kabir not extremists.🙏_*
great comment 💯%%%
Thanks for offering such good options. Please send me Kailasa citizenship. Also tell me where this utopia is. I have started packing my bags.
Also belongs to my hero jawaharlal nehru
Good formula for Better India
@@kuldipguleria2615 *_You don't know about Kailasa, the country founded by Nithyanada, cuz nowadays ANDHBHAKTS are talking highly of Kailasa country, and you know nothing about it, what kind of Andhbhakt are you?.😂_*
"A True Patriot Must Always Be Ready To Defend His Country Against Its Own Government"
~Edward Abbey.
But true patriotism is measured by how straight you can stand for the national anthem.
@@sharathnb ur comment shows ur naivety
@@anishbanerjee5761 dude just shows u are immatured to understand sarcasm.. Not for u buddy, I thought you would understand jokes.. Anyways good day
@@sharathnb I think you graduated in entire political science 😅😅
@@anishbanerjee5761 that's called brutal sarcasm arising from the mental agony one has to go through.
Love the neighbours. I am not a Hindu nor Muslim. We are human beings.
Tum hindu mat bano lekin wo muslim hi rahenge kabhi muslims se secularism ke bare mein baat karke dekho
bro iam from kashmir i also agreee with u
@@Sidhakatha19 Agree, they expect alot from us but the question is will those muslims ever change for us? Will they keep national integrity before religion? I respect all the religions equally but will they ever respect me from heart for being a Hindu? The answer is no because their religion is made in such a way that they hate those who pray to god in a manner that is different than it is prescribed in their holy book. This muslim isloatIon will exist till the end of this mankind we have to live with the hate, sadly.
@@sasa_05 can you show me the religious texts and educate me about the point that Quran says to hate non-Muslims with context.
Meet of real Indian Intellectuals. Thanks Karan. I am not sure your interviews reach the desired quality audiences in India. Thanks Mr. Shah. Thanks Karan
I am christian but i stand with indias Hindus. Becuase hindus are under privileged in pakistan and bangladesh. In pakistan non muslim cannot be PM... non muslims not allowed to go to some major and main universities. Non muslims dont have equal rights in pakistan as the muslims have. Christians are killed everyday in muslim majority countries like Egypt... african muslim countries... syria... afghanistan... etc...
Pakistan hindus want to come to india but indian muslims dont want to go to pak- imagine why....
Wake up hindus and christians.
Yaar kya mast English bolte he Karan sir .. adha sir k upar se chala jata he ... Google karna padta he .. what he's trying to say ....Shashi tharoor ke baad yehi mujhe mast Lage... Pura interview 100% English hota he ... Bich bich main Hindi bola to maja aaiga ... Because 60-70% Indian don't understand this high level vocab including me ..... But loved to leasing....
Mast Pani pilaya tha..
Hamari dosti bani rahe ❤
Sar-tan-se-juda is so much love love love.
@@77swapnil46 हमारे देश में पॉलिटिक्स के वजह्से शिक्षा इतना करब हुआ है. अगर हमारे देश वासियों 3 भाषा में बोलताथा थो क्या नुकसान है. दक्षिण भारत में हिन्दी सीखने के लिए मौका नहीं. आज पूरे भारत में अंग्रेजी बहुत कुछ लोग जानता है. ये बदलना चाहिए
I beg to disagree:
Mr Karan Thapar comes out
as annoyingly patronising,
irritatingly interrupting,
poisonously polarised,
deceptively disingenuous,
converting important issues
into imbalanced mudslinging:
A shame, a blemish
on the reputation of objective journalism.
*
At 18:30, 27:30, & 33:05 (see comments)
Mr Karan Thapar was not objectively minded
to point out his glaring "pot-kettle" hypocrisy
to Mr Naseeruddin Shah
genuinely upset on the subject of "hate speech",
while Islam & Qur'an have evidently been
the global fountainhead of hate speech & hate preach!
NS has huge balls....he is fearless. May God give him more strength and protection to him and his family.
only fearless..in interviews...ghar ke andar...lol
@@stallionspirit1576so male members in yr family r spineless..
He is an ass.. his silence on various things that Quran preaches is total complicity and open jihad
Quran is a book full of hate speech.
"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them."
"Allah"(Quran 8:12)
"Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad (Ibn Ishaq 992)
@@stallionspirit1576 aama yaar, yeh halath sab ki hai!
Kaun hai woh jaahnbaaz, joh apni biwi se nahi dartha?!
I am Hindu but I wonder why people are so much full of hatred for whole Muslim community. I had many Muslim friends no one ever show hatred rather they were always coming to meet me and served me shirkhurma which was very tasty every time I tasted……very friendly
I come to know about this only after I came to north India , how much the Muslims are hated . I still wonder and ask myself why ?? I have travelled to so many parts of India . Born and brought up in a remote village in the northeast , spent years in south India studying and working never have i came across this kind of hatred down there . By faith I’m Christian my religion , my parents never teach me to hate Hindu or Muslim or others’ faith .
Narendra Modi isn't just complicit but has himself used 'Hate' words and speech to grow up in Gujarat Politics and become an unchallenged entity in the BJP! Please recall, 'Tum Panch and Tumhare Pachis'; the use of Dogwhistles was far too common and continued even after his move to Delhi, 'Kabristan-Shamshan' and people can be recognised by the gear.
His Gujarat innings of use of hate speeches in Gujarat and continued use in the form of Dogwhistles is an impetus to the lesser leaders of the BJP. The promotion of Anurag Thakur is also an encouragement for others; the others would do so to advance in the BJP.
If you belong to the army ,you must speak maj gaurav Arya . Don't forget "maut ke saudagar "speech of your soniaji and lost election .modi merely responded .
Appreciate your courage, conviction n clarity of thoughts.
@@jagdishramanathan2091 Maj Gaurav is working for his own interest.
aaa gaye....gandhi parivaar ke chamche...lol
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
I have grown in a Muslim family and in my family never ever a single word of hate stories were being told regarding non-Muslims. Never it happened. And in future when I get my children, I am not going to entertain bad things.
In fact, just yesterday (the day of eid), my father went all way to a hospital around 150km away from my home to see his long time friend who’s a Hindu. He had an operation and I wish his speedy recovery. Due to eid there were less number of vehicles, still he paid double fare to see his friend. My father chose to go there rather than visiting our relatives on the day of eid.
Your father is a rare diamond among Muslims.. There are not too many Muslims like him.. It is like searching a pin in a hay stack.
@@latajhaveri6707 Its not rare in muslims its rare to you cause you haven't seen.
@@zubiyaaly544 same. I used to believe in same too. I was told Muslims are so hygienic. as I grown up I get to know that for Muslims cleanliness is the half of their faith. every Friday they need to shave their body hair, trim nails, etc. moreover they clean themselves 5 times a day. I became Muslim when I came to know how beautiful it is actually. the only sad thing is, In India, cultural muslim is at high level rather than actual Islam.
It is not tacit support or complicity, It is wilful abetment, and active collusion.
How modi speak behalf of molvi and molana ?
It's your duty nasruddin ji speak again hate speech of molvi and and sar tan se juda .
How modi stand against it ? If modi stand against it you call them anti muslim.
So need to reform within.
That "wink, wink, nudge" is more overt on occasion; remember "Didi, oh didi"?
@@shortinformation6073 mulle Kate jayenge Ram Ram chillayenge ye slogan dj pe masjid ke samne bajta hai kuch Parkash dalenge kya mahashay
who killed ten thousand Sikhs in New Delhi 1984.
@@rasingh3878Singh It was the same elements who branded the farmer's movement as one infiltrated by Khalistanis.
NS simply spoke my mind (and many more I am sure). Lack of consideration which dramatically changes when the same people travel abroad where they will hold doors for others, and the moment they are back here, such considerations magically vanish 😔
I think it also depends on the class of people. Right education and class , although doesn't guarantee and can't be generalized, should not be underestimated and I think it is disregarded by both right and left wings for different reasons. When that segment came, I was thinking about my own incidents. I worked at Amazon in India and I'm now in Germany. In India, as well, some groups of people (in fact, most of my group) used to be considerate in opening doors or keeping them open, just the same as in Germany by similar people (not the same) although their consideration might differ in other aspects but that's a different topic. Lol.
Abhigyan… your comment has provoked me to throw my two pence of opinion on this matter, since I am also an NRI.
I, whenever back home, begin by opening doors for others and stopping my car at zebra crossings, etc …. But then my system quickly realizes that if I keep on going this way then I will get nothing done and reach no where!
But why is our environment such that everybody is a little bit more rude than is actually required ?
I don’t know! But someone recently gave an interesting answer …. That we have been have-nots for so long that we have become a little more selfish than usual!
No, Mr.Shah, this type of hatred was never latent in our society. I am 70 year old, I have never felt this. I didn't ever even feel that I am born into a certain family having a particular religion. I am heart broken these days.😢
THE HATE FACTOR WAS EXPESSED IN A SUTTLE WAY AND ALSO IN A TWO FACED WAY .
Yeah, at least in our families there was no hatred talk against any community whatsoever, I feel lucky
@@beulahlad3576 India is beyond your families and city. It has over 50 nations, cultures and languages and a population of 1.4 billion people.
There are many families on either side where no talk of hatred found any mention and we do have such families even today. That said there was and is a huge population which had this latent prejudice but they themselves were never aware of it. It needed someone as charismatic as Moody to come and massage that dormant prejudice to bring it to the fore and thats what happened. He is once in a lifetime kind of leader. There will be cheap knockoffs of him after he's gone but those won't survive.
@@saq3329 latent prejudice naah just prejudice was always there Modi was able to channel it true just saying after Modi it’s not gonna be over it’s just gonna go downhill from here till something radical happens ( it took the toll and defeat of Second World War for fascism in Italy to end and Nazism in Germany to end and they both didn’t have the cocktail of strong religion on that)on the other hand places like Iran, Afghanistan are example of somewhat secular like india is completely overhauled into religious nations. ✌🏽
To me Naseerudin looked Exactly like Albert Einstein! Exactly!
😂
Quran is a book full of hate speech.
"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them."
"Allah"(Quran 8:12)
"Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad (Ibn Ishaq 992)
Hahaha 😃😃
I think he has done a stage play where he did the role of Einstein
This kind of interviews used to be on Main stream Media before 2014. Let that sink in 🙏
datz coz...these kinda interviews were liked by gandhi chamcha gang..lol
@@stallionspirit1576 coward Andabhakt, don't you have a name... Tumhare extremist parents tumhe naam rakha hai naa??
Inke haath mein AK-47 dedo... Out and out Hindu version of Osama bin laden..
@@stallionspirit1576 अनपढ़ आदमी भाग
@@stallionspirit1576aap ko rs 2 mile?
Well said 👍
Good interview - The problem with India currently is that political leaders see themselves as "rulers" rather than public servants in a democracy. This is perhaps because India always had many many rulers and kingdoms who were constantly at odds with each other and have waged many battles. Accountability when in power is what is lacking terribly in India.
I completely agree with Naseeruddin Shah Sahib. He truly represents the Idea of India. Thanks Karan Thapar ji for organising this wonderful discussion. 🇮🇳🇮🇳
*If Naseeruddin Shah is being honest, he is definitely in the minority of Indian Muslims with such views!*
His complaints would be valid IF none of the following were true:
1. Sharia Law over Constitution
2. Ghazwa-e-Hind
3. Islamic Terrorism
4. Population Jihad
5. Rioting and Stone Pelting
If the majority of Indian Muslims loved Bharat, they would have fixed the above problems themselves. But clearly, the majority seems to want Islamic Rule to be established in Bharat!
You made a statement . None of what you said is backed by facts .. will you let me eat beef in ram mandir .. constitution doesn’t prohibit it . Will you not put religion over constitution .
Modi has taken us so back in terms of our thought process that even we ppl are discussing about the past rather than present situation or the upcoming future. That's really worrisome
I totally agree with you and just folding my hand why the people did not understand if people will not understand now it will be too late.
What past?
Brother I'm from the North East India
1.And still the NCERT curriculum and we don't even have a single history chapter of North East from 6-12 class
And I'm learning it
Do u think this is fair?
2. Regarding Indian civilization we had many kingdoms of glory like Vijaynagar, chola , Pandya, cheras, Marathas. And North Indian kingdoms too
Is there any chapter about Chatrapati sivaji Maharaj in the NCERT curriculum?
Our medieval history only talks about Mughal and there was not a single word "INVASION" in the history and we know what's the reality and their deeds.
We know the story of what Mughals did to Sambhaji , Teg bahadur and Sikh gurus
But not a single mention
They're portrayed as if they're the best. Do u think a Sikh Punjabi and Marathi person would love to read that kind of history
And ask today's student the name of Mughal emperor
They'll quickly answer it
But ask any 3 kings from Gupta dynasty
They won't even know it. Because it's out of syllabus
Do u think this is fair way learning history?
We already were the richest civilization in our past even before Mughals
During Maurya, Vijaynagar, Gupta's
And these historians like Romila Thapar is white washing our history
3. Regarding Indian independence movement
We only learn about Gandhi
But the one who contributed in this movement was Subash Chandra Bose and his INA Armys
And Bhagat Singh.
Not a proper mention of them
Modi is just reclaiming our lost history from this leftist Nehru historians.
And our history has always been distorted since independence
So stop the BS
@@drpop_25 you're really learning Dr...great job...pls continue
Quran is a book full of hate speech.
"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them."
"Allah"(Quran 8:12)
"Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad (Ibn Ishaq 992)
Nobody still talked about Ram Navami in WB!
That's why no need to curb Hateful speech by 🚩🚩
The reality is that 80 crores people are dependent on free ration in India.
GHI 107 / 121... ..PEOPLE love to dismiss it.
Ashamed to be called a Hindu these days .. courtesy rss bjp and andh bhakts😢
Rekha Kumar, that's a fact ...I agree...but important thing is this is a welfare scheme and govt has all the rights to provide for the vulnerable....you see even in usa , they have got social schemes for millions of people...so to target the govt in this way is not appropriate...if you are giving this negative statistics, then you should have given the positive stats as well...that is india has become 5th largest economy...it was 11th few years back..
@@tinklingcrystals6489 Come to Islam the true and ultimate Religion...Hinduism is a fake religion made by people...Ram and Krishna never existed
I totally agree with Mr Naseeruddin Shah. I was also a target of bully and attack just because of my religion in class 7 to 10 when I studied in a Brahmin administered High School in late 70,'s in Madras city, yes I repeat very much in Madras city where you don't see much communal violence or hatred. I faced enormous challenges both from my Brahmin teachers and some classmates alike. They not only taunted and bullied me on a daily basis but also used to attack me physically as I was the only Muslim pupil in the whole of that high school until I left after year 10. I can still remember not only those Brahmin teachers names who used to hit, slap and made me to stand on my knees outside the class in the scorching summer heat with part of my knees buried under rough sand. As if this was not enough, I was followed and chased by a few classmates outside the school cursing and abusing me with all sorts of dirty language in Tamil until I boarded the public bus to home. All this happened to me just because of my name which I can't forget until my life although I left India More than 33 years ago. When it can happen in Madras city in 1970's where there was no presence of RSS or BJP, or Bajrang Dal, VHP, or any other violent Hindu organisations at the time, I can't even imagine what a Muslim might be going through all over North and Western Indian States in today's political atmosphere.
Man, I can feel the scares...May God bless you dear. Violence is in us... religion just gives us the opportunity to bring it out. We need to be better, hope God helps us all.
Our forefathers were badly treated by higher caste hindus and we were lucky that we Muslims were the majority in our district and area and not many Brahmins lived there. During British rule, they were in power and own money and were educated. after 1947 those racist hindus left before the portion fearing their lives, because of their hatred towards the Muslims and how they treated Muslims. Just like now in several states of India. Muslims of West Bengal and Kerala are not suffering much, but in West Bengal, Muslims rarely hold any govt jobs and traditionally it went to Hindu upper castes, fear of life is much less because one-fourth of the pop are Muslims in West Bengal.
I have not such experience in my whole life because I am from Kerala.
The reality is it is in the very nature of our people to be managed from the top. A top down management and leadership of good quality from time to time accelerated our progress. Indians lack strong individuality except for a small minority. Our people our easily led astray. So if you don't have the best people in important positions where will we go? What is happening is the reverse it seems. All the wrong people are rising to the top. Especially in politics.
That's also because healthy debates are not encouraged in families! Even today. What the head of the family says is ultimate.
Mr Shah, I can understand the hate bred during the times of partition when families lost their loved ones. But today? When people have lived together for so long they have experienced harmony. But yes when grandparents from the partition time have consistently shared their trauma they faced then, has definitely percolated and imbedded as a deep seated opinion. Also the repeated negativities reinforced during cricket matches has been well entrenched in their psyches! I hated this attitude and always questioned whether it is a game they were watching or a war? That is one reason why I never took interest in cricket. And this is perpetrated by so-called educated people!
The lack of consideration and the superiority complex stems from being partly educated and when education is only a means to get a job. Just mugging up texts only to vomit it to get good marks is not "education", it's mugucation! Even today reading does not happen in families. Reading is only limited to schools! Very few read relevant stuff. And now the only source of "Education" is WhatsApp University!
Very intellectual analysis by you. Sir
Thapar sahib - pls interview in English. ( English junta can read between the lines ) - hindi junta needs such content
Totally agree on what Shri. Naseerudin Sir have said 🙏🙏
How modi speak behalf of molvi and molana ?
It's your duty nasruddin ji speak again hate speech of molvi and and sar tan se juda .
How modi stand against it ? If modi stand against it you call them anti muslim.
So need to reform within.
@@shortinformation6073 did you understand what you just said? 😂
Get your facts right before you come and make a fool of yourself.
Jai Hind
@@shortinformation6073yes gomuthra nagpur half knickers
Yes
Not really
I am a Punjabi hindu & during my school & college days the principal of Injuman Ismail school near Crawford market in Bombay shri Razaq & family used to stay in the building opposite to our house & we were very friendly with the family & although no one from their family known to us stays in India now, I am still in touch with their daughters who were friends of my elder sisters & now stay in London & Canada although with time I have lost all my 3 elder sisters..
brother what you said actually kind of explains the current situation of society. Your experience is individualistic level and basically how a healthy society functions i.e., any criticism is directed towards individual level/entity on the basis of treatment/response received but, on contrary people associate this with a group caste/religion/party a clear case of prejudice!
Great actor,
Great citizen,
Real “56 inch” human.
Nasurddin shah is great actor also not only that he is real Indian too,and deserves honour and respect by all different communities in India.
Hate speech has been a similar issue in Pakistan .. our parents very unconsciously seeped it into us.. with social media, it shows prominently. Same problem, secularism in Pakistan is the remotest of remote dreams....hatred takes various shapes and forms.. sigh
We know you are a Indian hindutva sanghi😅.We aren't fools to believe this comment is from Pakistani 😮.
Naseeruddin certainly didnt feel this fear when lakhs of jehadis came out of no where suddenly after nupur sharma chanting "behead nupur"
nor did naseeruddin feel this fear when thousands of rabi jehadis perpetrated bangalore riots and burned down a police station and damaged public property
certainly didnt feel prejudice when naseerudding didnt speak about beheading of kanhaiya lal or targetted killing of 20 plus hindus or shooting of indore pharma agent after nupur episode?
the fact that naseeruddin spoke of hate speech but not violent criminal jehadi acts proves once again muslims are hypocrites with no value assigned to non muslims
@@indipacifician3693 zainabin is true👍
What's happening in Pakistan are inevitable. The problem escalated after. The *APOSTASY AND BLASPHEMY LAW* are enacted in the constitution of Pakistan. Pakistan will never ever recover. People are forced to love islam out of fear by these two law of Islam.
Zainab can you do something about it 🤔
Mam, the problems are with the aliens acting with an agenda to deliver a people to their cultures.
I am a Hindu Brahmin and I want to thank Naseer Sahab for his honesty and fearless factual analysis of the govt, of Indians in general, of Hindutva zealots, and equally of Muslims who fall for the divisive tricks of the current political atmosphere. I would also like to say that many of us know the big role he has played in shaping our popular culture in the past several decades since his entry into public life. It is a delight to watch people like him and Akhtar Sahab talk about religion, society, politics and India. We need more genuine philosophers and thinkers like them in public life.
The current atmosphere forces me to mention my religion and his philosophy, whereas before 2014 I would say I am a software engineer and he is a greatly skilled actor and a man of great culture. I want that back, where we don't talk about Hindu Muslim but about bijli, sadak, paani, shiksha, swasthya, and gareebi hatana.
I am really happy to see that there are still some INDIANS left in our society. Most of them have started identifying them with a particular religious group claiming them to be hindus, muslims, sikhs, christians, etc but few identify them as INDIANS. I being a muslim grew up with all my friends being non muslims, where we hardly cared about who is from which religion. We were just a bunch of kids cherishing our childhood together. We used to celebrate diwali with the same enthusiasm as eid, christmas with the same as holi. I really miss those days when we were human beings. I really feel sorry for people who spend their whole life living with hate not realising that life so short that we will perish from this globe without realising that our time has ended. I ask the people of dharm that what is dharm? Is killing innocent individuals in the name of religion is dharm? Is that what makes you happy is your dharm?
I can literally tell you that the majority portion of each religion overlaps with the other and what we actually differ is in the concept of god. Few believe that god takes forms and others don't but the good deeds are more or less common and people hardly care about them because all they want is to fight and satisfy their anger in the name of religion.
What do you mean by hindutva zealots !?
@@rohanmahaldar4935 friend, while its true that bajpa has brought a bad name to hindus all arpund the globe, a majority of us remain to be true patriotic Indians, just that some got brainwashed into thinking hindu kharte mein and the others sadly bought the story of 'sabka saath sabka vikaas'.
Colonised mind 😂😂
@@rohanmahaldar4935 Only Hindus say that. Try arguing with a christian or muslim. It is their way or you are an infidel. This romantic view does not hold in real life. I am not saying we should not love other religions but dont fall into the trap by Naseeruddin who is a closet islamist. Have you ever seen him speak when a non muslim is killed or when there is killing of Indian soldiers in Kashmir.
Fortunately that animosity between Hindus and Muslims was not in my school days 1945 to 1955 in Kerala. We were tolerant towards Muslims in those days and even now. We respect each other's faith. We also had no discrimination towards other casts, though some brahmins felt they were the preveledged people bu their birth to the Brahmin community.
I have noticed that my Muslim brethren started distancing themselves after the Godra riots and the mass massacre of Muslims.. obviously anybody would be angered.. this is why RSS was banned by our great freedom fighter leaders.. applaud their foresight.. now a sangh bhakt in our politics makes it easy for more division to be in power.. I'm ashamed to be called a Hindu as the religion has been insulted by the devilish brahmin hindutva ideologies.. Hinduism has been adulterated.. unfortunate!.. it will eventually being it's own doom this way
@@tinklingcrystals6489 you broadcast on loudspeakers 5 times a day - La ilaha illa Allah' - there is no god truly worthy of worship except Allah.
You are branding brahmins and followers of hindu faith as devils and will be doomed ? - you are speaking the language of the book aren't you ?
@@tinklingcrystals6489nd what was the starting point
My parents never said bad about other religions and now I'm teaching the same to my kids giving respect to all religions...they can delete Mughal chapter from the curriculum but cannot eradicate all the history rooted in the form of Taj, lalquila, qutub minar etc...
Do you know the true history of Qutab Minar? Do you know it was made over an existing structure which is non islamic? I am pretty sure that part is not be taught in ncert.
Its scary how hindu womens respect mughals who offers hindu womens nothing but pain and torture in past but educated hindu women's respect mughal history
Excellent even my parents didn't teach me to hate any religion or caste
Naseeruddin Shah is on point ❤
Love you Wire team ❤
Mr. Nasseruddin Shah has exposed this fascist government's all illogical claims very rightfully. Thus we really need well-educated and versatile people in politics. My sincere good wishes to my favourite actor.🙏
Nasir uddin shah commenting on jai shankar is like a noob teaching boxing to mike tyson.
Karan I just loved this interview this man is just fabulous when you interview him , Naseruddin Shah is so articulate, refined, educated, humble and rooted to the ground and knows exactly what he wants to convey 👌👍👏🙏💐💝🇮🇳
When actors like kher and akshay are bending over at the waist.....being yes men to the supreme leader and his tyranny......naseer actually has the guts to say out loud what he feels is right and usually hits the nail on the head with his statements and analysis. God bless you with more health and strength dear sir. ❤
Still good people and good discourse is encouraged in this great country. Don't b hopeless. Although media is working for BJP, institutions under it's control and public is being poisoned by false propaganda yet I believe it will end soon. Night could b long but there will b a new sunrise. Jai hind jai bharat
Really fantastic comment from a very learned and educated person. Unlike Jaishanker who has double digit qualifications after his name but according to me a ignorant uneducated bigot
27:30-28:01 -
So Mr Shah admits that
in the "truth only triumphs" India,
Ms Nupur Sharma was quoting Hadis,
accepted as fact by all world's Muslims
as well as the Muslim Indians.
It's a shame Mr Shah failed
to come out
to tell the mobs that
"Ms Sharma was telling the accepted truth"
& that they should refrain from
indulging in hate-speech, threats, fatwas
and committing hate-crimes..."
*
(Mr Karan Thapar, of course, was not objectively minded
to point out this glaring "pot-kettle" hypocrisy
to Mr Naseeruddin Shah
genuinely upset on the subject of hate speech...)
Its unfortunate, we are going through such an era.....Hope and pray soon India will bounce back to normalicey with peace and unity 🙏🙏🙏
Shaa Saab talks with fact and dignity🙏🙏🙏
Yeah 👍🏼💯😍🇮🇳
Conversions stopped?
Hindus 1st time feeling pride and roaring like never before india 🇮🇳 now in spot light of world
Does it hurts u that why majority r happy?
The Day we stop being Politically correct...and expose the Truth ..where this HATE theory started ..Communalism started 1400 yes ago in Saudi arabia..before that ALL HUMANS WERE SECULAR ..CHECK
So he does.
But Mr Shah saab is also a hypocrite
like most educated peaceful Muslims!
*
Please check this out:
At 18:30, 27:30, & 33:05 (see comments)
Mr Karan Thapar was not objectively minded
to point out his glaring "pot-kettle" hypocrisy
to Mr Naseeruddin Shah
genuinely upset on the subject of "hate speech",
while Islam & Qur'an have evidently been
the global fountainhead of hate speech & hate preach!
@@user-zd1rx3xv4e Being a Hindu, we were also proud and roaring. Maybe you were timid all your life. We don't need any government to make us feel strong. We were always invincible. Shivaji Maharaj never discriminated among his subjects. Thats true Hinduism.
28:22
I would like to add something
100s of years of mughal rule . Then Britishers . Then 70 years of Pro Muslim Govt. ( Congress ) .
And muslims are not in Govt. Positions , mostly illiterate because of RSS and BJP ? I don't think so .
I am from iit kgp . We have almost 20% muslims in India but just 2% studying here in my college and same is the case with almost any central govt institutions.
I am from kashmir where 98% people are muslims. It makes me sad how much less value is given to education here. I remember once i was studying with my muslim friend who was extremely sharp. He jokingly said to his uncle that in the next text he want a rank above me. His uncle replied " beta exam mein koi bhi upar aaye , aakhirat mein jab upar jaooge , jaanat toh tum hi jaoge toh us hisab se raho , ye exam aur padai se kuch nahi hoga ". And his uncle was himself a govt employee .
Muslims do need massive reforms and more people like Nas. Shah should come forward and be the flag bearer of that reform .
Respect is the only word ..I must say for Naseer Saab .. love from USA
👍🏼👍🏼🙏🏼🇮🇳😍
A man with the spine who knows how to call a spade ♠️ a spade ♠️
But I don't agree with Mr Shah's statement that Indian Muslims shouldn't lament that they are not considered for jobs in any sector Such as Financial, Banking, public and private administration, Army, Paramilitary, Police, judiciary and media. There are hundreds of Muslim run educational institutions all over India from Kashmir to Kerala, which has been producing thousands of Muslims candidates highly skilful in their respective educational background each year, but yet they are deliberately sidelined just because of their religion which has been the case since 1947. Despite being at least 15% of the country 's population, they hardly get 1 or 2% of jobs in those above mentioned sectors . The 5 South Indian states alone have more than 35 Autonomous Universities run by Muslim establishment that produces many thousands of highly skilled Muslim students each year. I suggest Mr Shah to do some research before he talks about some uneducated Muslims based mainly in UP and Bihar .
Much of the hatred stems from sheer ignorance ! Folks believe there are just 3 religions in our country !
Wonderful points raised in this debate !❤🎉😊
Yeah right! You will not address the root but blame everyone else.
@@ragsyboy1463mulla liberals always blame others but never their own book
Yes Maureen. Bjp feeds their supporters on religious hatred taking public attention away from real problems.
Yeah and those people who wants india as a Hindu rashtra means India is a country of Hindus I mean why look at the country Israel a country of Jews there current situation and when it comes to equality then why we are naming the places with the people's fav things mostly with religion names and sorry for my English mistake if anything is I wrote wrong 🙏 by the way I belongs to tribal community from jharkhand. I said it because someone might be Target me that I am a Muslim or something else which is hated by some people. well I am a non religious person and I hope there is also a column for non religious or atheist people too like some other developed or developing countries have I mean atleast when it comes to equality again I really want a people like Ambedkar budh Raja Ram Mohan Roy Bhagat Singh CV Raman etc etc there so many amazing people are from India and they not alive that's why our country is going in very bad direction
Problem with these Hypocrites like Nasaruddin Shah and his ilk is they have selective criticism. Fact is all minorities have been wiped off from a country like Pakistan but this guy has never said a word. Majority in India have been suppressed and conspired against for centuries whether Mughals killed millions of Hindus or Colonial British who divided Indian society to establish their rule. So there has been this frustration all these years. But that's ok it's embedded in the religion he follows. They all talk about secularism but hardly practice themselves. No one takes them seriously...
The darkness and hatred they have created will take a long time to get rid of...
When darkness is at its peak, consider the night to get over soon. Cheer up!
Never heard these Lutyens talking that Hindus are not Kafirs. They are our friends. The loudspeakers screaming there heads off despite Court rulings against them were never talked about.
Excellent episode........simple straightforward and clear views of Shah.
There is a difference between tough, bold intellectual question and moronic diatribe. People can support if you stop the latter and pursue the former.
The majority of my hindu friends whom I grew up studying and playing along with are fully radicalised now.
The one who used to come to my house on Eid and have biryani with me has whatsapp group calling for muslim genocide.
One who used to play cricket with me openly supports lynching of muslims in the name of cow.
Those who don't visibly support the ongoing onslaught, don't denounce it either.
Their silence speaks volumes.
India was a very good country, it is destroyed to the cores now by BJP/RSS/VHP/BG/GodiMedia
At least someone in Bollywood has the courage to speak their mind...
30 minutes of raw and quality content. 🔥
Hi to day truly speech very nice thanku somutch❤
मैं एक पत्रकार हूं, "यह हमारा नया न्यूज़ प्लेटफार्म है", आप सब के सहयोग की आवश्यकता है, हम सत्य के साथ हैं देश और देश के लोग मज़बूत हो , Jay Bhim 🤲🤲🤲
I have been witnessing since my childhood ( I am 80 years of age) such bad narratives for Gandhi, Nehru and Muslims by the people associated with THAT so called Mahan Organisation. The same narrative is resounding in today’s India
Everyone is high on power money and egos sir. Instead of saying to work hard and struggle, they are asked to come join political parties and create ruckus and waste their life
Yess because it's true
I like your interview and most of it. But most remarkable and historical was "dosti banatay Ragah" 😂😂
NS is not only a fine actor but a real Indian,lots of regards👍
India is my country and all Indians are my brothers and sisters. I love my country and I am proud of its rich and varied heritage. I shall always strive to be worthy of it. I shall give respect to my parents, teachers and elders and treat everyone with courtesy. To my country and all my people, I pledge my devotion. In their well-being & prosperity alone lies my happiness. Jai Hind!!
I grew up as this pledge being the first and foremost aspect of my upbringing. How many of our children are even aware of our pledge?
Respects but will your children continue your trend... I don't blame your children I blame yellow journalists like Karan thappar.. They have made a lot of money doing propaganda for enemies of India.
@@latajhaveri6707 Do you abide by this pledge? Will your children continue if you do?
If u believe Karan is spreading propaganda, then u already fell prey for the propanganda.
@@latajhaveri6707 your comment speaks volumes about the prejudce already in your heart.
All that Naseer said are lies. Even my type of person can debate and defeat him on all the points raised by him.
Frank and honest replies to forthright questions. Eye-opening interview and fearless journalism. We Indians deserve the governments we elect. We need to speak through the ballot box, and hope we can do that in 2024
I beg to disagree:
Mr Karan Thapar comes out
as annoyingly patronising,
irritatingly interrupting,
poisonously polarised,
deceptively disingenuous,
converting important issues
into imbalanced mudslinging:
A shame, a blemish
on the reputation of objective journalism.
*
At 18:30, 27:30, & 33:05 (see main comments)
Mr Karan Thapar was not objectively minded
to point out his glaring "pot-kettle" hypocrisy
to Mr Naseeruddin Shah
genuinely upset on the subject of "hate speech",
while Islam & Qur'an have evidently been
the global fountainhead of hate speech & hate preach!
Imran Masood says he will cut PM Modi to pieces and he is the hero of liberal media and congress . Modi marjaa , Modi ki qabar is a normal day to day words in CAA and they are national heroes for these Lutyens media and people like Naseer sir - great work Karan
Truth should be revered and not concealed. Naseeruddin Shah is the pioneer of this statement.
I loved Naseeruddin Shah's acting & now it's great to get a taste of his intellectual mind. The video was very interesting & informative, indeed!! After majoring in Political Science from India, and having lived in the US most of my life, I take a keen interest in democracy & government, but politics always bored me ..... until recently!! All that I learned to be civil & democratic is being challenged in so much of the world. Images of Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Palestine are disturbing, the war in Ukraine distressing, but witnessing what's happening right here, in the US when Trump was leading & the destruction (not to mention the disgrace) he managed to cause in a four year term, got me totally interested, involved & now voicing my concerns. I think of myself as a Human Rights Advocate, & a "passive" political activist too. I consider USA to be my FatherLand, and when I look upon my MotherLand (India - which I proudly referred to as Hindustan, but now hesitate to do so), I see the same nonsense happening on a larger scale there. {The divide & rule, the religious extremism, the discrimination, the double stands, the hypocrisy & the blatant disregard for decency, civility & justice for all}. We did manage to "Dump Trump" here, now it's time to "Surrender Nirendra" there!? First (slowly but surely) the Modi Worship needs to subside, so that campaigning can be effective. He needs to be voted out & replaced by someone who will UNIFY, not defy & extremify, a nation that's heading south (as in going down) God Help Us, Ahmain, Ahmeen, Amen!!
It's cheap and inhumane to resent or hate someone for the wrong deeds of his/ her ancestors.
Assuming that you're referring to Muslims, most common Muslims don't share their ancestry with Moghuls or any other Muslim rulers.
@@tgsaravind I admit that you're right. Where'll a Bengali, Gujrati, Tamil, Malayali or Maithili/Santhili muslims will go if the country has to be divided again based on religion? Some fundamental lunatics don't understand this. For them the fact remains - The Division has been created.
तीन सबसे दुःखी व्यक्ति - रविश कुमार; नसीर और थापर ( son of 1962 war deserter)...
Try for pakistan citizenship 🙂 for peace and harmony
His heart is already there
It was really rewarding to listen to my icon. I remember my JNU days when we would fill the common room of our hostels to watch Mirza Ghalib. The great actor is dead right. Hate against Muslims would increase as we move toward 2024 that must be stopped!
🙏🤔🙄He is biggest supporter "Sar tan Juda Gang"
Thanks. I hope one day Karan will be a Nobel Laureate, he certainly deserves it.
*33:05* श्री नसीरुद्दीन शाह Mr Naseeruddin Shah:
"Having a different political opinion, of course, is BLASPHEMY.
So I don't think we can really boast about being a democracy unless all of us as citizens realise what our own responsibility to our country is;
and realise that we are causing irreparable damage by hating (looking down upon) a certain section of people,
by spreading poison within your community,
by encouraging violence, by encouraging hatred,
by encouraging... clamping down on anything with which we don't agree...
it's very much like undeclared Emergency (1975)..."
*MY QUESTION:*
Mr Shah, sir, kindly explain which religious book
has been directing exactly such "irreparably damaging type of stuff"
being preached daily to your Muslim community
for the past 1300+ years?
Why don't YOU lead & advise your Muslim Indians community
against brainwashing their children with such hateful-superiority "afzal" mindset ?
(Mr Karan Thapar of course did not have the mind
to point out this glaring pot-kettle hypocrisy...)
During Note bandi, we were very disciplined, standing hours in hot sun before Bank.
Now in Kerala our bank accounts are being freezed when we use UPI all of a sudden.... no use complaining to the banks cyber police cell local police.. the Gujarati police have freezed all the accounts and Gujarat police is inaccessible 😭.. now many of us are running pillar to post to get our own money.. Gujaratis are a menace in every way
My final but very important question to Mr Shah is that it looks like he is very happy to pronounce, although he is a Muslim, but married a Hindu woman and his children are atheist or don't believe in any religion. But why is that in India it has to be always a Muslim actor or actress (Except Dilip Kumar Saab ) to ignore their religion, marry a non Muslim person of opposite gender, then openly boast that their children don't follow any religion or follow both, when all the Hindu actors and actresses openly follow their religion irrespective of who ever they marry, go to temples from Pashupathinath to tirupathy and follow their tradition do all sorts of pooja etc. That itself shows Muslim actors like Naseeruddin Shah, Salman khan, Shah rukh khan, Aamir khan, Saif, feroz khan, Tabu, Kushbhu, Mumtaz, Zeenat Aman, Parveen Babi etc etc are all suffering from INFERIORITY COMPLEX either not to follow their religion once they become an actor or openly show animosity to their religion of birth just because they have earned fame and money.?. I hope Mr Shah and all his other namesake Muslim bandwagon actors and actresses would agree with my above point that you guys are definitely suffering from "INFERIORITY COMPLEX SYNDROME"
Modi is a coward who only knows how to ban documentaries, press, free speech and not to mention what meat we eat. Kudos to channels like this and Mr Shah, educated people don't feel they are the only ones thinking like this.
He is has fucking 303 seats in lok sabha
@@tellme8140 My focus immediately went on your profanity, without reading your comment I gathered you are a blind bhakt.
@@tellme8140 But he has only 39% of the popular vote. If the opposition was not fragmented and could unite, Modi would be history. Those 303 seats are indicative of a "first past the post" system, and that is not necessarily an accurate reflection of the will of the people. But it is what it is.
No disrespect to army veteran...but I found it hypocritical from Left Liberals when they talk about taking pride in Hindu Heritage.....If u put tilak on forehead then you are sanghi...but if you put a religious cap on your head then it doesn't matter.... Leaders like Maulana Azad use to wear it.....those leaders weren't Islamists....it has been fed in our brain that if u would put tilak , wear saffron gamcha , put bindi , mala etc then u r backward / non secular/anti other religion....that is wrong.... either criticize both parties or be tolerant about this....it is more painful than defending Modi or his govt....Most middle class people still not care about showing supremacy of their religion....but Indian intellectual have done lot's of harm by analysing things with their own biases....BJP is just using this....It is clear that religion should be completely separated from politics but In India it has been practiced since independence...... unbiased opinions would attract more people rather than being hypocritical....
I loved this interview and views of Nasir ji , There should be love and harmony among all human beings,and for that to happen there should be education,hence education should be made compulsory by law for all asap in India and the rest of the undeveloped world
Mr Shah, is also very slient on suffering on many issues like what happened in Kashmir.He only spoke on behalf of Muslim population only. Mr Shah why your narrative is very subjective
India need honest journalists like you
How many times Naseerudin Shah and Karan voiced against atrocities on Hindus, Christians. This is just a TRP channel. Communal issues have been fewer in BJP government
Eloquently put . Vehemently expressed.
Sorry to say this but it is really ignorance of Nasiruddin Shah when he says why to give importance to Nurpur Sharma's statement...well the problem is not with Indian Muslims specifically...just look at Islamic countries where you have blasphemy laws for saying something about mohamad or Islam which is uncomfortable for Muslims...so the issue is that globally Islam has not been able to reform itself that is where Muslims must introspect
Huge respect straight and on point, Aaj Tak debate shows like Dangal and Halla bol are not even one percent of this kind of content 👍
An optimist finds everything good around and pessimist finds everything wrong around him. So you need to introspect. Karan trust me Rahul Gandhi has done so many hate speeches, chowkidar choor hain. Etc please be unbiased while doing journalism. If N Shah is proud of his Muslim hood then there is no wrong in Hindus being proud of their religion.
Naseeruddin is a fearlessly outspoken gentleman. Our deepest respects to Naseeruddin Shah.
What do you say when the PM was silent when actually atrocities happened in West Bengal after TMC WON the election last year? I can give you many instances like this!
I only half agree with opening remarks of Nasaruddin. I am 65. True, in 60s and 70s many Hindus, particularly those under the influence of RSS like me, had less-than-respectful attitude toward Muslims. But Congress strongly promoted secularism and even though we hated Congress we grew out of anti-Muslim bias with our own rational thinking and not without help from Government' strong secular stand. The Modi-Shah phenomenon is absolutely new and has nothing to do with the long-dead primitive thinking of 60s and 70s.
Religion and politics are separate things. Opportunists alone bring religious extremism into politics.
I have huge respect for sir Karen Thapar and sir Naseer Uddin Sha because both of them are honest outspoken I salute both of them. Jo bhi such bolayga mulk Ka dushman hoga
Nasruddin Shah looks like Albert Einstein!😅
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What is wrong in wearing Tilak ?
When wearing a topi by a Muslim with so much pride why is it suddenly wrong to wear Tilak with pride?
We must realise that we live in this world for a limited time. During that time should we think and act against some individuals or groups or religions and waste our limited time ? Instead can we not think and act that all are our brethren and live in peace and joy ? Can we not devise a method to achieve this target and to pass on this message of brotherhood to the following generation ?
Modi is silent , yes particularly on communal violence, hate speech etc.but we must ask one question to us .Anyone who is running a country, will like all this ,which things can trigger his getting out of self rule surely. So no body wants this hate speeches who are ruling . But this type of hate speechers are in most of the religions and castes and this is a very hot potato. If modi says in favor or against will not stop at that level . Then opposition will go further and further and modi will have to answer daily to different opposition leaders who are in numbers.... these type of daily table tennis rounds are going on in mumbai and maharashtra and people are really bore of it .....and not good for maharashtra....so, the thing which is not good for maharashtra is also not good for India at national level. .
So that's why modi is silent
If Mughals were indians then why
Chatrapathi Shivaji Maharaj had to bring idea of Hindavi Swarajya (self rule of Hindus)
Why Peshwa Bajirao said we must throw these mlecchas out of country
Standing tall, poised and confident before Shahu Maharaj and his court, the young new Peshwa Bajirao is said to have thundered, “Let us transcend the barren Deccan and conquer central India. The Mughals have become weak, insolent, womanizers and opium-addicts. The accumulated wealth of centuries in the vaults of the north, can be ours. It is time to drive from the holy land of Bharatvarsha the outcastes and the barbarians. Let us throw them back over the Himalayas, back to where they came from. The saffron flag must fly from the Krishna to the Indus. Hindustan is ours”.
Wow, sounds like a speech only a genocidal maniac makes.
Peshab pav Bhaaji rao.
Exactly
Thapar family is really invest in distorting our Indian history
Maraths and Sikhs were British servants and the reasons behind the colonization. They took soldiers, bombs, guns, maps , telescopes from British to invade people who used stones and swords. Aaa thuu ! Buzdil. You didn't have a country before the British. There was no India before the British and no Hindusthan before Mahmood Ghouri. South Asia is a region like Europe and not a country. It has over 50 historically, culturally, linguistically and racially separated nations/ tribes for over 10,000 years. Maurya, kushan, Aryans, Pirthiviraj, Porus, Dahir, Abdaalli, Ghouri, khilji, Mughals are from North West ( current Pakistan and central Asia). They have always plundered and looted ganga jamuna ( current India). Maurya invaded current regions of India over 20 times and killed and raped millions. Who was fighting with Maurya and Ashoka if it was one India? All of the above kingdoms , including the British had to conquer small small tribes ad nations. At the end of their empires these regions /nations went back to their original phase of many nations separated on cultural and linguistic basis. A french is not German. A punjabi is not Tamil or Gujarati or Assami. India is a zoo created by the British and will break. British left a trained army and RAW to beat other nations and forcefully keep them in India so India stays in permanent choas and poverty. How can you fly flag to Indus? Have you checked with Southern nations that were massacred by Indus Valley kingdoms? Is Chinese Burmese regions of Northeast interested in your " flag" ? They have their own histories, heroes, cultures and languages. British given Indians army kills 1000's of freedom fighters in northeast but only Kashmir is highlighted to keep over 50 polythiest nations inside India united against one big enemy Pakistan and against Muslims. Anyone outside the British created indian territory is now shown as " Invader" when there was no bigger invader and killer than Maurya, Ashoka, Kushan Pirthviraj etc. There have been hundreds of empires in Geographical Hindustan. If it was Kingdom of India why you’re calling it Maurya Empire . People before Ashoka were also from the same land . They didn’t identified themselves as Bharti / Hindusthani/ Indians nor they’re identified by historians Bharti/Indian or Hindustani . Indian Nationalism is a pretty new concept.
It's so obvious. What Nasiruddin is saying is true. Why the PM is silent. It shows he is complicit