Great stuff as always Steve. I always pack my regular fly line reel whenever I use my nymphing noodle. So much easier than carrying two rods and it works surprisingly well with dries.
Yeah what a conundrum! Looks like that's the 1 rod for that size your water you're on. I'm liking the 10' 4 wt for an all around stream/river rod. But that too has its limitations. 🤷♀🤷♀
Yep for sure, everyones needs will be slightly different. A 10' #4 would be a good all round rod for bigger water and bigger fish I reckon, the only thing I'm personally not mad about with 4 weights is the tippet protection for nymphing - I fish 7X and 8X usually and a 2 or 3 weight is a little bit easier to protect super light tippet on. Also for casting lighter nymphs on the euro rig a lighter rod is a bit better. But the extra range of a 10 footer, and the extra weight of a #4 to cast streamers and dry dropper rigs a bit easier would be a nice benefit too.... ;)
It's really a very beautiful river ! But it's easy casting because it's free area without trees and bushes, no very tiny and narrow creek with overhanging. So I think every rod between 7' and 11' from 3wt to 5wt would be fine
For some reason i like sage, my favourite combo and the only combo that is always in the van ready on the go is.. sage salt 6w, sage spectrum, and flat pro float (i want to change to a the line to a braid core so it hold less memory or vi versa)
Yep I love my Sages too Ngoc, especially the salt water and bass rods, but they definitely make some great trout rods too. I'm not aware of them making a 9'6" #3 weight trout rod though, but I could be wrong... :)
"I might have blown my chance here . . . ", you say. Yep, I know what you mean Steve, but I'm sure you'll remember how some fish, while using the Euro style, will give you a second and even a third chance. It's uncanny how it happens. I've had some great results through persevering in a particularly good looking spot after being 'touched'.
Haha true! I once had a fish eat a nymph on an indicator rig, fought him for a second or two before he spat the hook. Then he moved straight back into feeding position, very next cast he came up and tried to eat the indicator! 😂
I’ve used an Echo Carbon XL 10ft 3wt, pretty much exclusively, for about 3 years. I’ve owned a few much more expensive rods, in that class, but my experience was that they were all too specialized. Fishing streamers is the main weakness of these rods. Using a 150gr intermediate Spey Lite Skagit head and a 3ips tip has added a lot more versatility, but it will never do what a 9ft 6wt Streamer Max outfit can do. I have tried a 10ft 4wt, but it brings too many compromises.
Yep I think you hit it on the head, streamer fishing is always going to be a compromise with these rods. But then again it’s the style of fishing that I do least frequently (in rivers that is), so it makes sense for me to skew towards nymphing and dry fly/dry dropper… :)
Haha, cool! Yes absolutely it is the angler, however certain tools will allow you to do the job easier. I’m sometimes fishing down as light as 8X tippet to get better presentations, you will break off far fewer fish on a rod that has a soft enough tip to protect tippet that light. :)
Thanks John! Yeah I’m trying to be conscious about fish handling and set a good example, sometimes in the heat of the moment I forget the best practice…
Hey mate. Just stumbled across your channel. Just wanna say, amazing quality. Love your work. Keep it up. I know nothing about fly but your content is mint. 🤌
Outstanding video
Thanks mate, very kind! :)
Great stuff as always Steve. I always pack my regular fly line reel whenever I use my nymphing noodle. So much easier than carrying two rods and it works surprisingly well with dries.
Thanks Rob! Yeah they certainly do work well, I just love the accuracy of the 9’6” though, it feels more like a “normal” rod to cast….. ;)
Yeah what a conundrum! Looks like that's the 1 rod for that size your water you're on. I'm liking the 10' 4 wt for an all around stream/river rod. But that too has its limitations. 🤷♀🤷♀
Yep for sure, everyones needs will be slightly different. A 10' #4 would be a good all round rod for bigger water and bigger fish I reckon, the only thing I'm personally not mad about with 4 weights is the tippet protection for nymphing - I fish 7X and 8X usually and a 2 or 3 weight is a little bit easier to protect super light tippet on. Also for casting lighter nymphs on the euro rig a lighter rod is a bit better. But the extra range of a 10 footer, and the extra weight of a #4 to cast streamers and dry dropper rigs a bit easier would be a nice benefit too.... ;)
Brilliant. It’s like you made a vid just for me😊. …and superb….yup it’s on order!!! Wish I could time warp to Oct now!😂😂😂
I think you'll be very happy Anthony, it's a great rod! Designed by Czech multi-time world champion Martin Droz along with Hanak. :)
It's really a very beautiful river !
But it's easy casting because it's free area without trees and bushes, no very tiny and narrow creek with overhanging.
So I think every rod between 7' and 11' from 3wt to 5wt would be fine
Thanks! Yes it’s fairly open and easy casting, the hard bit was not spooking fish… ;)
Good video Steve
Thanks Al! :)
For some reason i like sage, my favourite combo and the only combo that is always in the van ready on the go is.. sage salt 6w, sage spectrum, and flat pro float (i want to change to a the line to a braid core so it hold less memory or vi versa)
Yep I love my Sages too Ngoc, especially the salt water and bass rods, but they definitely make some great trout rods too. I'm not aware of them making a 9'6" #3 weight trout rod though, but I could be wrong... :)
"I might have blown my chance here . . . ", you say. Yep, I know what you mean Steve, but I'm sure you'll remember how some fish, while using the Euro style, will give you a second and even a third chance. It's uncanny how it happens. I've had some great results through persevering in a particularly good looking spot after being 'touched'.
Haha true! I once had a fish eat a nymph on an indicator rig, fought him for a second or two before he spat the hook. Then he moved straight back into feeding position, very next cast he came up and tried to eat the indicator! 😂
I’ve used an Echo Carbon XL 10ft 3wt, pretty much exclusively, for about 3 years. I’ve owned a few much more expensive rods, in that class, but my experience was that they were all too specialized.
Fishing streamers is the main weakness of these rods. Using a 150gr intermediate Spey Lite Skagit head and a 3ips tip has added a lot more versatility, but it will never do what a 9ft 6wt Streamer Max outfit can do. I have tried a 10ft 4wt, but it brings too many compromises.
Yep I think you hit it on the head, streamer fishing is always going to be a compromise with these rods. But then again it’s the style of fishing that I do least frequently (in rivers that is), so it makes sense for me to skew towards nymphing and dry fly/dry dropper… :)
I use my sage xp 10ft 8weight smallest fish 4 inch gudgeon largest fish a gt in cuba about 40lb it’s not the rod it’s the angler
Haha, cool! Yes absolutely it is the angler, however certain tools will allow you to do the job easier. I’m sometimes fishing down as light as 8X tippet to get better presentations, you will break off far fewer fish on a rod that has a soft enough tip to protect tippet that light. :)
9 foot Fenwck Boron X
I’ve not tried one of those, good rod?
please wet your hands before handling catch and release...
well done overall nice video and captures/editing, nice spending some time with you.
Thanks John! Yeah I’m trying to be conscious about fish handling and set a good example, sometimes in the heat of the moment I forget the best practice…
Hey mate. Just stumbled across your channel. Just wanna say, amazing quality. Love your work. Keep it up. I know nothing about fly but your content is mint. 🤌
Thanks mate, funny enough I was watching your bream video earlier around pyrmont, nice stuff!
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