@@lucas_vlanc eh, that’s fine. A90 Supra is basically a Z4 M40i and that comes with M badges from the factory. this Supra/BMW Z4 joke has been beaten to death hasn’t it?
I work for BMW and I always look forward to these comparison videos so I can have a more honest opinion with the other guys who make great cars as well. Keep up the good work!
I have a question about that bmw in the video. It has a different front bumper than the other 2023 3 series. Whats the thing about that. What the package name of that.
BMW has a good amount of options for styling when you build your car out so I believe what you're referring to is the shadow line package. They've created more sporty options for designs on every model.
Please ask whoever is responsible to do smth about the visuals of the current digital instruments! At least to add some decent customisation possibilities. Those sharp-angled boomerangs both ain't exactly informative and not nice to look at. Most likely eventually I'll have to concede and force myself to update (still loving my F30 LCI too much though) but it would feel a lot like stepping over myself.
330 owner here. I agree with Thomas every time. The differences between these are small.. but noticeable. My 330 has some addons and a tune, and when you push it you can tell there’s a sports car soul underneath. It’s still just a daily driver though, but it’s a good one.
A damn good daily driver!! I got one with 32k miles for $29k. Got a maintance plan, and service contract. 39 mpg on the highway, fast and can swing the tail when I want, and a smooth luxury ride. It's a great deal
@Matthew Shote just a Dinan piggyback tuner so far. It's not a ton, but definitely noticeable. They claim ~15hp without other add-ons, I'd say it's pretty accurate. Probably going to a full dinan ECU flash this spring.
I bought the Mercedes after shopping all three brands. I did like the BMW, but they didn't have the 2023 model in stock at the time. The Mercedes does have decent legroom in the back and I think looks classier, which is why I like it better.
4 years ago, I was trying to decide what to buy between Audi A4, BMW 3.30 and Merc C300 and I came up with your channel on RUclips. Since that day, I’m following you and watching every piece of video you uploaded. By the way I bought BMW 3.30 because you chose it the best in your video :) Now, after 4 years, here we’re again, comparing these cars and I’m loving it. Keep up the good work guys, you’re awesome.
I bought AR Giulia 2 years ago. I am very happy but I would probably choose the 340i today. 2.0 turbo engine, no matter how much power it would have, if you do not press it, it is not pleasant to drive. The M or QV versions are unfortunately too expensive for my budget :(
@@rENEGADE666JEDI I cant buy a BMW simply because of the poor build quality alone. Interior quality is absolutely abysmal. Since thats the part you see 100% of the time driving the vehicle I find that extremely important. Audi for me, all the way. Mercedes is simply not a sports sedan. Never have been. You really gotta pay up at Mercedes to get that performance premium. The new MB cars however look nice but are built like crap as well. Audi is a clearly better built car in every way possible.
We bought the A4 just the other week. The fully specced out Technik edition in white with black optics. We really like the almost total cabin isolation which brings the road and traffic noise to almost zero. The combination of analogue and digital is just about perfect. We appreciate not having to use a touch screen to control things like the AC and volume. Audi virtual cockpit is pretty cool too. The understated interior design and styling overall is what was a big selling point. The MB in contrast looks a bit like a gaming PC inside. The ambient lights package in the Audi is perfect and perfectly implemented. Just about enough. Again in the MB it's a bit much. If you're tall like me and my wife you'll appreciate the Audi. The seats are wide and there is a lot of headroom and leg room. We only tried the BMW in addition to the Audi and the seats were smaller just fyi. I love the way BMWs drive but the Audi isn't far behind. For the kind of driving that you'll be doing in Canada I'd go Audi or MB in second place then the BMW. I think it's probably fair to say that all three are great cars and you'd probably be happy with either. We weren't the biggest fans of interior design in either the BMW or MB but that's a preference thing.
@@jasonr7035Reliability on B9.5 A4's is good. I have 15k on mine and just a wheel bearing under warranty. Agree with everything in the video, it does everything fine. Also was able to get ventilated front seats. Couldn't get that on the 330i.
Amazing comment. I will add that for very short drivers Audi is actually miles better above BMW. We have to replace our A4 totaled by a 3rd party and even now in 2024 my wife cannot see a thing in BMWs with the seat all the way up. Never an issue on Audis. So very interesting that Audis do better than BMW on both ends of the vertical scale.
Actually not a bad feature. Imagine having kids sitting in the back or stupid friends sitting next to you and speaking to your car making it turn on seat heating, changing seating position, etc.
Hands down you two have the chemistry not no other reviewer’s can come close to. I can full imagine you referencing every day experience’s. Awesome review with comic touch
I feel like a show comparing 2002 Models versus 2022 models would be interesting and help to bring us more content. I would love to see the comparisons between my 2002 Audi A6 3.0 Quattro and the 2022 Audi A6. Everything from engine options and interior options and all the specs available in 2002 and the same with the 2022. Then we can see what things have gotten better in two decades and what has gotten worse or we don’t like.
I purchased the C300 for luxury purposes. Coming from a 2016 328i it was sporty, fun to drive. But I preferred more luxury and the new c300 does that for me. Brakes as they said jerk you but over time you get use to it. I enjoy my C300, hope you enjoy whichever fits your lifestyle. God bless
You guys always have fantastic content across a ton of cars - and it is very much appreciated! Maybe an updated S4, C43, and BMW comparison is in the works? How do those cars compare to something like a G70? Everyone online seems to compare G70s against Stingers or Acuras but seems to be limited content for the G70 vs zee germans?! Thanks again guys! keep up the great work!
Just got the A4 45 Premium Plus. Oozes quality. Drives nicely. Yes, the appearance says business as usual, but when I get in the driver's seat I am 100 percent happy.
Same dude. I just got mine in august & I love it. I upgraded from a 2019 Honda Civic sport. The 2022 a4 premium plus is amazing. I have no issue, I drive it everyday.
As long as you have no interest in driving feels and sportiness (which I have), Audi is the best choice among the 3 German brands currently. And if you are serious about driving feeling and sportiness, even BMW is no longer a really right pick: you better watch for your car outside the German brands.
Love this video. Been cross shopping these three cars for months. Got an Audi A4 on order, just felt so composed, so confident, and did everything right.
Have had an Audi A4 for years, you will love it. Those things are just perfect. Does everything right. It honestly is a dream car for me, its the BEST car.
Haha. Non-car-guys will make the mistake of going for numb & understeer... Enjoy the worst possible layout: front-wheel-drive-based with the engine in front of the front axle.
@@pistonburner6448 I think it’s 40-60 split with 60 to the rear. I’m never going to be pushing the car to the limit, so not a big deal for me. Just want a daily driver that’s super safe and a hint of fun. Blows my CX-5 out of the water.
German A4 owner here. If you want the A4 to be more like a sports car, you need to get the full quattro (not quattro ultra technology) with crown gear and rear sport diff. None of which is available in North America.
You have to step up to the S4 for full Quattro with rear sport diff, but then at that price point you're competing against the C43 and M340i and generally both those are still sportier than the S4. IMO the A4/5 lineups is always the goldilocks between the C class and 3 series.
The BIG advantage all these new 330i/C300/A4 Quattro type luxury sports cars have over the one's from 10-20 years ago is that we've finally reached the point where putting the car into Sport / Comfort / Race / Off-Road / Etc actually makes a real and significant difference to how the car feels and drives. From the Steering, Suspension, Throttle & Break Sensitivity, Break Balancing, Engine Mapping, Shifting & Exhaust Noise and more all significantly change now. As such you genuinely can have the best of all worlds depending on the circumstances. I've a top of the line 2004 LS430 Ultra Luxury edition which is 18 years old and in it all the 'Sport' setting does is allow it to Rev a little higher shifting gears. That's it. Even the 'Snow' Setting just starts the car in 2nd gear. That's it.
I discovered this channel because of their 2022 Honda Civic review(my sister bought one so I HAD to send a good review video to her). I'm so glad to have stumbled upon this masterpiece of a duo because im a massive fan. the intros are a work of art, as always. Never change Thomas and James. the banter between you both is unparalleled :)
My wife and I have a G20 330i with the M Sport package - specifically, it's a 2021, making it pre-LCI. I don't know why we'd want to upgrade to the new one, honestly. iDrive 8? Doesn't seem entirely better than iDrive 7. 7 is just simple to read and simple to use, while looking pretty modern. The performance is pretty much the same, and arguably, the pre-LCI cars look better. Having said that, of the three cars here, we'd probably end up picking that one if we had to choose. The M Sport package is a must, though, if you want the nice and chunky steering wheel and larger M Sport wheels on the outside, which do serve to make the car feel more sporty overall. The Audi looks great. I've often heard that they have numb-but-accurate steering, but I wonder how much of a deal breaker that is. It's not like our 330i has amazing steering, but there is some feedback to it. Anyway, it just has a low-key, yet sharp, look to it that I personally like. I just don't find the Benz appealing at all. The body looks okay, though very much a stretched CLA. The interior and such are a big "no" for me. The big slabs that are screens just are not elegant enough to be in "a Benz". Overall the BMW has been a fantastic car. Perfect? No. Sometimes the braking feel is annoying as mentioned in the video, but it can be adapted to. It gets stellar fuel mileage, too, and though the suspension can be a bit busy on broken pavement, it's a phenomenal highway cruiser. On top of that, it's pretty entertaining to drive.
As someone who is actively in the market for one of these cars and (as of this week) has test driven all three, here are my thoughts: The Mercedes is the best looking out of the 3. The fact that the company has homogenized their lineup is actually a good thing if you are in the market for a C-Class. I truly cannot tell it apart from the CLA, CLS, or E class. Also, that interior. You have to see it in person- it looks so futuristic and feels like a car that won't become obsolete anytime soon. At night it looks like the cockpit of a spaceship from Tron. Now the interior, while easily being the coolest, also feels like the cheapest. For example, the entire bottom line of "buttons"- which is just a tactile strip at the bottom of the center screen, moves regardless of where you push. The center part of the steering wheel is entirely plastic (save for the the 3 pointed star)- and just the odd creak and rattle here just tells me that the Mercedes still is lagging behind when it comes to build quality. The actual driving feel comes off as very uninspired. It's comfortable, but not exciting in any manner whatsoever. The Audi and the BMW are both more fun to drive. Noticeably so. All that being said, the first impression this car leaves is leagues ahead of the other two- and that means most people, seeing these cars side by side and sitting in them for a drive will probably think the Mercedes is EASILY the coolest and most special out of the 3. I know I did. Now, I have to agree that the Audi in this video is specced to the nines and looks amazing- however, that is thousands of dollars of extra trim. The baseline Audi A4 looks boring. It just doesn't strike your eye the same way the Mercedes or the BMW does. However, the interior, while also being the most boring, is easily the highest quality. Every button, knob and surface feels nice and premium. Not to mention it has a dedicated climate control center (easily one of the best ones in the entire market). All the buttons all feel so satisfying to press and turn. The screen is nice, responsive, and a good size. The truth is- I don't have many bad thing to say about the Audi. It does very little wrong. But just like your little cousin, who is nice and courteous and doesn't get into any trouble but also doesn't try to engage with you in anyway- it's also kind of hard to love. It's very easy to get along with, but sometimes you need to have a little drama and chaos to truly be excited about something. My entire time with the car I just knew that I'd get bored of it. The BMW falls somewhere squarely in between the Audi and the Mercedes. That huge double screen looks futuristic but also feels like it was just tacked on with no real care or thought (kind of like the Audi screen). The buttons look nice, but don't have anywhere near the tactile sensation of the Audi. The exterior of the car is very classic BMW. Personally, I like it, but it has always been an acquired taste. The Audi and the Mercedes are less offensive, Mercedes being better looking and Audi being worse looking because of it. However, no one buys a BMW for how it looks (as we can clearly tell from recent design choices with the M3). The question is does it drive well? Yes. In my opinion it offers a level of excitement that anyone who buys a car for the driving experience will accept. You may not be wowed by it, but it has true sports car character- just not the performance. TLDR: Buy the Mercedes if: you don't really care how it drives, you just want to impress everyone. Buy the Audi if: when asked what your dream car is you said "just something to get me from A to B". Buy the BMW if: you want a car that you can get into a little trouble with every once in a while but still take home to your mom.
What about comfort in the mercedes compared to the other two competitors? Don't you notice how the c class (probably far away from the s class) floats on the road? Btw very good and reletable description, had fun reading it
@@crashgenius9k279 it’s almost too lofty on the road if that makes sense. In a sense it feels more like a luxury vehicle than the other two but it comes at the cost of it having a good feel on the road as a driver’s car. In comfort mode the BMW and the Audi are more than comfortable to drive and when you actually feel like pushing them, they actually feel good to drive. The Mercedes just like of lofts around in sports mode.
So I was right, Germans are good as long as they run especially under warranty. After 20 plus years of a BMW fan including 2 M3’s moved on to Japanese for a bit more reliability. I am sure you can argue otherwise. 😊
@@purwantiallan5089 dude my wife has a 2022 bmw 330 m sport and i drive it every morning to get a coffee, every roundabout i put that thing sideways and it still drives like im driving it off the lot for the first time.
@@MrLalasd he wants to make BMW richer, and isn't smart with his money. I like people like him. Thanks to him, the used car market is filled with good bargains. Please sell you cars as soon as warranty expires, so that guys like me can buy them for cheap ;)
James seemed to be more open minded. Thomas' bias towards BMW really showed. The Audi, IMHO was by far the best looking car of the 3. Thomas was just like meh. I don't think it was even close. The BMW was the most boring and ordinary looking of the 3
@@jackd232 without hard buttons, I gave to disagree. It doesn't matter how it looks if it's a pita to use. Why these manufacturers are putting all touch screen options in a 1.5 or 2 or even 4 ton vehicle is beyond me. It's simply not safe. Again, just for safety alone I'd take the Audi over the Mercedes. If going off looks only, the Mercedes interior is definitely nice, but from a practicality standpoint it's a failure for me. The screen in the BMW is just hideous
5.3 & 5.4 seconds 0-60 for me is excellent speed. The Audi looks the best here, but I wish you guys got the Brooklyn grey 330 M-sport…then it would have been a tie.
Except the Benz doesn't really deliver on what it promises. If it's comfort you're after, why not go all the way and check if you can get a Genesis G80 instead? Same price but larger, more luxurious and getting rave reviews too. Not being able to brake reliably and smoothly should not be possible on a production car in 2022. Also, I would love to see them drive a comfortable Audi. I never understand why they need to shoehorn in this sporty styling when we're dealing with an understeered FWD platform. It'd probably be a better car when aiming to be a Volvo competitor, rather than BMW / Alfa Romeo whilst falling short of both.
A "normal" motorized Giulia is like a S/M340/C43 just without the badge. The stuff you get in those performance cars is like its almost free on the Giulia itself. If i would need to pick a "normal" car it would be the giulia of all three.
Genuinely true. Even the long-held like of Germans costing a fortune to maintain must truly be dead for all but the most cantankerous of performance models. Crappy little hateboxes designed to get self loathing sycophants from their house in the burbs to their job in the CBD are dead. Even a big standard Corolla has an infotainment system that pissed on the Germans and short as 10 years ago... Ago. Cheap cars have gotten better and I think that there's a lot to be said for a frugal car these days. I would actually love to see a price point comparison from Thomas and James on exactly this, show us a Camry, a 320i and a Malibu and really pick at what the Beamer does better, if it even is that much better and if the 20k you spend to get it is actually worth it. After owning many Germans myself including a e92 335i and a golf GTI mk6 I expect not.
@@DumbAccordionTricks feel like cars hit their prime around 2018/2019 before everything went hybrid and became more plasticky, but for buying new cars these are the cards we’re dealt unfortunately
i remember the previous generation of Mercs, if there was 1 LED strip in the headlights, its a C. 2 strips, an E. 3, an S. now they’ve homogenised it so much its getting hard to tell them apart now. gotta judge it based on its size these days.
They still do the same with the dots in the daylight running parts of the head lights. Mercedes is all about the S class & G Class...everything else is just cheaper watered down versions of them for people that can't afford the Top
if you cant tell the diffrence between the models, imo youre not really into cars, its so easy to differentiate them from each other. They said they could not tell you from a distance what car that is, why would you ever need to spot out a car from huge distance, like if you are in range to see the car actually you will be able to tell them apart. Greetings from Bavaria Germany.
Great review video! I had considered each of these cars, both the last versions and the new/current ones, and to my surprise I picked the C300. I just bought a service loaner ‘22 with 500 miles on it (with a healthy discount off sticker and an extra year of warranty since it was sold as a CPO). It has the AMG Line package with sport suspension, which I think limits body roll in the corners nicely. This is my first luxury car, first German car, and first car whose MSRP was north of $50K USD. Just got it yesterday so it will be a little while before I really get used to it, but so far I really like it. By the way, the heated steering wheel turns on when you turn on the heated seats.
@@boukm3n Yes, it is amazing, and I do love it! My car has inlaid aluminum stripes in the natural wood dash and enhanced ambient lighting. The interior is a major reason I bought this particular C300.
@@timothycoyne5874 Sadly, you get fanboys here that think everyone buys vehicle for "track day". I'm an Audi owner but love all German vehicles. Enjoy you new car!
I am glad you said they were all nice cars just a bit different in personality. Once you get to this class car, they are all nice cars but a bit different. I have worked with BMW for over 35 years and I prefer them, however once you get to this class car just buy the one you like, not what your friend or car buddy likes but get what you like!!!
yeah this is the correct move. go test drive each one, don't listen to online opinions *too* much as it's not throttle house's money that's paying for the car, it's yours 😅 get what makes you, and only you, happiest.
Honestly I can't say anything about the new 3 series makes me want to upgrade from my trusty e90 LCI. Both the engine and the hamron sound system make that car sound absolutely amazing no matter what mood you're in. No Audi I have ever been in has had a sound system anywhere close to it, and I don't have a need for any more tech than mine already offers. At least the new car still looks good
Totally agree on the C-class. Test drove one back to back with a leftover 2021 W205 C-300 and ended up buying that one. Saved $$ and I feel like the new C just isn't a big step forward.
Crazy to think those are the base models in north america. Here in germany it's pretty rare to see one of these, 90% of them are lower end models like the C200 or 320d/i.
I wonder how this review would have gone if the three cars were chosen with highest-trim engines. 340 would probably be the best performer. Great video guys!
"Yeah and I had more hair. It's all on my back, now."😂 *Side Note* I ended up buying a 2023 M240i after the comparison video you guys made. Great videos and I love your channel!
Mercedes gets me with the interior every time. That c class interior looks fantastic especially at night with the ambient lighting. You can have the performance from BMW or extra tech from audi i wont use. The interior of the mercedes at night is breath taking
my words exactly. i don't care about performance. it hurts me if i rev my engine so i want to be polite to my car and derive pleasure from it which even the cheapest Mercedes gives me anyday compared to the bmws and audis.
Fellow b9 s4 owner here, I had a b9 w/out the sport package (diff, suspension) and now have a b9.5 with the sport option. 1000% worth it! Comfort mode drives super smooth.
I own the newest A4 45 and test drove the competition prior to it. Once I sat in the Audi, I knew instantly it was the car for me. The build quality and materials just make the car feel like it should be in a class above the others. Plus, it’s the faster car of the three so my mind was made up very quick
I also took on a 2019 a4. the bmw has a tight chasis and power train maybe better. the Audi is simply so much tighter from exterior to interior to chasis and transmission. and powertrain. all parts surprise and slot together in a unique fashion that the bmw and mb don't
@@fabolousjada5070 No it doesn’t, it’s slower than the A4, and 330i, bimmers and Audi interior is better. Again it’s all subjective at the end of the day
There's a body shop guy at my job that has an "M3 318i" M3 badge crooked..... Also I have seen customers come in with X1M, a BASE 530i debadged with an M5 badge, countless BMW X5 35i rebadged as X5Ms, M535is, M750Lis. It's.. It's just depressing
This video brings back the first time that I've ever watched you guys. The same vid with these 3 models back in 2019. Time flies, 've been watching every vids since then.
Awesome , awesome review guys, love your videos and always look forward to the next. Great insight on the vehicles, thank you for the different perspectives given and also for pointing out unbiased critique for all 3 brand as well as praise. See y'all on the next video!
Man, the price for these cars is well above 50k. I live in France and here a well equipped c class costs up to 70k (I'm talking abt the c220d). Its really becoming way too expensive...
the c class in person is fucking ugly the interior is nice but, the BMW is better overall you can do mods on it bootmod3 and bimmercode and things like that. Just sounds and looks better in my opinion
I drove this lexus right after visiting the Alfa Romeo showroom and BMW. I recommend you to do the same, I would be surprised if you chose a lexus after that ;)
@@rENEGADE666JEDI I understand that they probably drive better. Currently, own a '14 GS 350, but looking for a replacement is hard, especially from the Japanese side of things.
@@rENEGADE666JEDI well, it depends what are your priorities. If comfort and reliability are essential, Lexus is the only choice. If you look for a sport sedan than Alfa is 1st BMW second.
@@silimarina. Yep, I intend to keep my cars for really long periods of time, so Lexus still makes the most sense still. If current reliability trends continue, I may move to another brand as the gap between them and other manufacturers decreases as time goes on.
That'd be an interesting comparison! Each of those cars are far more different from eachother than the A4/3-Series/C-Class. Though for as gorgeous as the Q50's exterior is, the interior is pretty out of date unfortunately.
I don’t even watch these guys for the cars anymore, I just watch this for them LOL I can care less about an Audi, Beamer or Benz and I still watched this Video and enjoyed it. God Bless these guys for being so awesome as always 😅
I drove a 2022 Audi A4 in the first half of this year, and now I'm driving a 2022 Mercedes Benz C300. My impression is that the Audi is much snappier than the Benz, but the Benz feels far more luxurious. So much more luxurious that it makes the A4 feel cheap in comparison. Overall, I'm much happier with the Benz.
As a W205 owner (previous gen c class) and general Mercedes fan boy, honestly the new generation has lost most of its appeal. Worse exterior, worse interior (despite being more modern) and worse driving dynamics. I’ve owned several c classes, but when I’m done with this one I think I’ll be moving on.
The same here. Mercedes is loosing it's vibe, it's feeling... all gimmics and plastics, screens and lights... kinda trying to be a german tesla, but loosing it's famous class and elegance.
The start stop in the Audi a4.. or in any audi these days… k.. few details.. 1) doesn’t matter if you’re in dynamic, comfort, or a mix.. 2) also have to make sure you haven’t disabled the button.. but it’s automatically on when you start the car.. 3) if you have air on (whether heat or air conditioning) the car won’t turn itself off at a stop. Most people have air running so yeah.. you don’t save any gas or it’s very very minimal. I turn the button off but only remember to do so when I’m surprised the car shut off at a stop .. it provokes think “uh did my car just die?”.. thoughts. Too scary. Plus it’s a bit harsh.. the start when you let your foot off the brake that is. Maybe in different models it’s better. I’m speaking from owning a 2018 S3
So how do I prevent the car from turning off at a stop? Air is always running anyway. The automatic start when your foot is off the break is so annoying. So many cars have that today
Absolutely no. The issue is that Americans only get the highest spec versions of these cars. In Europe you get a 125bhp Audi A4 and a 150bhp BMW and Mercedes. But due to the utterly ridiculous performance wars of the last decade in the US now no producer dares to sell Americans regularly powered cars anymore - despite nobody in the US actually needing these high power engines when you have such a speed limit unlike the Autobahn… but even a 150bhp car can easily go 200kmh on the Autobahn.
@@bingobongo1615 the funny thing is Americans do want lower powered vehicles. Japanese cars with less than 200bhp sell extremely well, it’s just that here in the US BMW and Audi are seen as performance and luxury brands which wouldn’t sell at a lower price because it’s simply not the targeted market.
About a year and a half ago, I shopped these 3 options (2020, 2021 models). I liked the look of the A4 better with S-line package, and at the time I liked it's interior better as well but it definitely felt like the car the bean counters would drive versus someone in my profession. The 3 series was good and I enjoyed it a lot, but BMWs design language to me is just boring (maybe except the true M cars, but I wasn't shopping that price range. And the C class, everything freaking made noise, they aren't lying when they said it's creeky, they definitely are. So in the end, I ended up buying the best looking, most sporty, quickest entry level sport sedan option... The Alfa Romeo Giulia TI Sport. I know, I know, I'm going to be spending time at the dealer, but it's just a better car.
I was actually faced with a similar situation as yours 2 years ago. I went with a Kia Stinger because for $10-15k CDN less than the rest, I got a decently fun to drive and comfortable hatchback that help my haul my 65” Samsung OLED Tv home from Costco. Plus it had a decent TTV6 with all the goodies like cooled seats, HUD, 360 cam etc. $51k CDN brands new was just a bargain for these here in Canada for what you get. I almost ended up trading it in earlier this year because it got appraised for $45k even though I put on 110,000km on it, but it’s my first car so I couldn’t. Lol
@@HellzHonour I was looking at the Stinger too as well as the G70, but since I was shopping lightly used there wasn't much on the market them for either of them, at least not ones that were optioned the way I wanted, so I didn't mention them.
@@Predator212ma I got the upgraded leather seats (red), and leather wrapped everything. The interior is beautiful, so I disagree with you, however, the infotainment is terrible. Good thing that wasn't a criteria I really care about, I care more for the drive and handling which the Alfa dominates these 3.
I had a 17 & 18 A4… then I decided to do something different.. went to a ‘19 330… it drives wayyy nicer than the Audi. The suspension is better the steering and the way the car feels over the ground. However, I am 6’2” and I’m just too long for the 3 series. I try not to not drive more than an hour because I will get uncomfortable. The size is more narrower than the A4 and the front just feels more “fitted”. I really love driving my 330 but the comfort is starting to become more of an issue for me :/ in the A4 there’s a little more room but still not the same as BMW.
Hi! I feel the same the pedals are offset to the left. I get pain in my right hip. When you break you go to much with your right foot to the left. I love the way the car drives but I am gonna buy a Mercedes or an Audi
"as numb as a sailor's arm on a lonely night." LOL
That shit was hilarious 😂😂
Was looking for this hahaha
You have no idea how accurate this is 😂
@@El_Jefe_S3 Brandon, i bet the BMW 3 still is underrated as ever.
@@leonted4290 Audi: Oh no, i am in danger.
The old version of this video was my first TH video
It is so good to see how much TH evolved since then
Yep. Even surpassing CarWow and Top Gear. Somehow.
For me it's the performance variant comparison. One of the best and most entertaining car channels on youtube.
yeahhh I always keep that old video in my phone. like have watched them hundred times.
Same
what is TH?
Guys that opening was GOLD //M330i 😂
There's a lot of M320d's near me. Must be an unknown model?
@@R03333 I've seen a Subaru M Sti,lmao
@@jackd232 still can't beat the Supra with an "M-Sport" badge that I saw at a used car dealership
@@lucas_vlanc eh, that’s fine. A90 Supra is basically a Z4 M40i and that comes with M badges from the factory.
this Supra/BMW Z4 joke has been beaten to death hasn’t it?
@@jackd232 Been looking at a VW "MJetta", prices are crazy! 🤣
I work for BMW and I always look forward to these comparison videos so I can have a more honest opinion with the other guys who make great cars as well. Keep up the good work!
I have a question about that bmw in the video. It has a different front bumper than the other 2023 3 series. Whats the thing about that. What the package name of that.
BMW has a good amount of options for styling when you build your car out so I believe what you're referring to is the shadow line package. They've created more sporty options for designs on every model.
@@ymehmetatikSport vs M sport.
Please ask whoever is responsible to do smth about the visuals of the current digital instruments! At least to add some decent customisation possibilities. Those sharp-angled boomerangs both ain't exactly informative and not nice to look at.
Most likely eventually I'll have to concede and force myself to update (still loving my F30 LCI too much though) but it would feel a lot like stepping over myself.
Since I been reviewing bmws my channel is smaller for the time being and what I noticed is a lot of bmw hate idk why
330 owner here. I agree with Thomas every time. The differences between these are small.. but noticeable. My 330 has some addons and a tune, and when you push it you can tell there’s a sports car soul underneath. It’s still just a daily driver though, but it’s a good one.
A damn good daily driver!! I got one with 32k miles for $29k. Got a maintance plan, and service contract. 39 mpg on the highway, fast and can swing the tail when I want, and a smooth luxury ride.
It's a great deal
330 owner here, what have u done to it?
Cars don’t have souls
I just purchased a 330i which tune did you go with?
@Matthew Shote just a Dinan piggyback tuner so far. It's not a ton, but definitely noticeable. They claim ~15hp without other add-ons, I'd say it's pretty accurate. Probably going to a full dinan ECU flash this spring.
I swear this is the best car review channel. I have been a fan for years.
Even Hagerty and Collecting Cars are surprisingly ahead of Carwow.
@@purwantiallan5089 says who
They are on a totally different level. Easily the best car content on RUclips.
I was just thinking that! Love all the other main channels, but for some reason regardless of what cars T&J are reviewing I click on it immediately!
There's also JayEmme which is awesome. I'm just glad we have choices now.
The MB not listening to the passenger vs driver's voice commands is actually amazing
2 mics, 1 per seat. computer can tell which mic gets sound first. super simple
@@berengerchristy6256 the fact people at MB decided to make it do that is amazing, the technology is obviously simple
@@berengerchristy6256 but not every car does that. So it's amazing to see
@@berengerchristy6256 i think it is the weight on the seat for Airbags etc. Why MB knows that.
@@bernhard.k Given that they were both sitting in their seats, weight sensors would be both triggered, so it likely is more the mic thing
“Audi is Car” should be on a tee shirt.
Great review as always 🎉
Something about James saying "Audi is Car" with that vacant smile on his face made me really happy
I would buy one
@@tommyclarke3225 I did buy one I love my 2023 a4 prestige
I love my 2021 A4 sline, a few bolts ons and 034 springs woke her up
@Damar Fadlan audi is extremely underrated
I bought the Mercedes after shopping all three brands. I did like the BMW, but they didn't have the 2023 model in stock at the time. The Mercedes does have decent legroom in the back and I think looks classier, which is why I like it better.
Sucker
I would love to see the review of the one class up cars: 5-series vs. E-Class vs. A6!
next year there will be a new 5 series / e class . So its worth to until then
its actually 4 series vs e class vs a4
@@ThatBoyGc no it isnt lmao, 4 series would be against the c class coupe
Definitely!!!
@@ThatBoyGc 4 series = 3 series coupe.
So Mercedes c-coupe = 4 series.
A5 = a4 Coupé.
So 4series vs C-Coupé vs a5
When she refused to turn on the heated steering wheel from Thomas’s seat was epic 😂
"Uh-uh-uh! You didn't say, 'And I'm James.'"
so incredibly German it almost hurts watching
Honestly kind of impressive technologically.
That was pretty smart from Mercedes. The passenger isn't allowed to mess with the driver seat settings.
4 years ago, I was trying to decide what to buy between Audi A4, BMW 3.30 and Merc C300 and I came up with your channel on RUclips. Since that day, I’m following you and watching every piece of video you uploaded. By the way I bought BMW 3.30 because you chose it the best in your video :) Now, after 4 years, here we’re again, comparing these cars and I’m loving it. Keep up the good work guys, you’re awesome.
I bought AR Giulia 2 years ago. I am very happy but I would probably choose the 340i today. 2.0 turbo engine, no matter how much power it would have, if you do not press it, it is not pleasant to drive. The M or QV versions are unfortunately too expensive for my budget :(
@@rENEGADE666JEDI I cant buy a BMW simply because of the poor build quality alone. Interior quality is absolutely abysmal. Since thats the part you see 100% of the time driving the vehicle I find that extremely important. Audi for me, all the way. Mercedes is simply not a sports sedan. Never have been. You really gotta pay up at Mercedes to get that performance premium. The new MB cars however look nice but are built like crap as well. Audi is a clearly better built car in every way possible.
@@JosvanMeer Be honest mate, you made the choice before you ever got inside any of them. Also, the unprompted coping hints at buyers remorse.
@@JosvanMeeryeah i feel like they went over it to quickly in this video the audi has the best interior by far in my opinion.
But interior BMW nowhere near by Mercedes.
I will never tire of the helmet intro banging the sill of that i8. I look forward to it every single time.
We bought the A4 just the other week. The fully specced out Technik edition in white with black optics. We really like the almost total cabin isolation which brings the road and traffic noise to almost zero. The combination of analogue and digital is just about perfect. We appreciate not having to use a touch screen to control things like the AC and volume. Audi virtual cockpit is pretty cool too. The understated interior design and styling overall is what was a big selling point. The MB in contrast looks a bit like a gaming PC inside. The ambient lights package in the Audi is perfect and perfectly implemented. Just about enough. Again in the MB it's a bit much. If you're tall like me and my wife you'll appreciate the Audi. The seats are wide and there is a lot of headroom and leg room. We only tried the BMW in addition to the Audi and the seats were smaller just fyi. I love the way BMWs drive but the Audi isn't far behind. For the kind of driving that you'll be doing in Canada I'd go Audi or MB in second place then the BMW. I think it's probably fair to say that all three are great cars and you'd probably be happy with either. We weren't the biggest fans of interior design in either the BMW or MB but that's a preference thing.
How has reliability been?
@@jasonr7035Reliability on B9.5 A4's is good. I have 15k on mine and just a wheel bearing under warranty. Agree with everything in the video, it does everything fine. Also was able to get ventilated front seats. Couldn't get that on the 330i.
Amazing comment. I will add that for very short drivers Audi is actually miles better above BMW. We have to replace our A4 totaled by a 3rd party and even now in 2024 my wife cannot see a thing in BMWs with the seat all the way up. Never an issue on Audis. So very interesting that Audis do better than BMW on both ends of the vertical scale.
Can’t wait for y’all to get your hands on the new M2! Hopefully you guys can share your thoughts !
ugly but fun but still prefer the previous one. there ya go lol
@Damar Fadlan What does the X2 have to do with the M2?
I hope they compare it to Thomas’ M2 if they do get their hands on it.
Actually not a bad feature. Imagine having kids sitting in the back or stupid friends sitting next to you and speaking to your car making it turn on seat heating, changing seating position, etc.
Hands down you two have the chemistry not no other reviewer’s can come close to. I can full imagine you referencing every day experience’s. Awesome review with comic touch
- so which other can? ('not no other')
- reviewers, not reviewer's
- fully, not full
- experiences, not experience's
-. at the end
@@michaelanderson7715 - this guy 🤣
@@omarleon6691 where else would you expect to find a grammar nazi than under a german car review?
@@omarleon6691 I welcome your endorsement.
@@michaelanderson7715 I suspect English may not be his first language. Don't be a pedant.
James almost called that Benz crap hahaha
Yep. Lanzhu Zhong funnily also almost say that Benz as crap. 😂
It's called a Freudian slip
Crap then oops better restraint!
Lol but its not crap then states
I have a C43 Coupe 2017 model, bro, the brake has been the same, sounds so odd, the suspension is total garbage, jumping all the time
I feel like a show comparing 2002 Models versus 2022 models would be interesting and help to bring us more content. I would love to see the comparisons between my 2002 Audi A6 3.0 Quattro and the 2022 Audi A6. Everything from engine options and interior options and all the specs available in 2002 and the same with the 2022. Then we can see what things have gotten better in two decades and what has gotten worse or we don’t like.
Power of the audi, looks of the merc, driving pleasure of the bmw. There you go, perfect car
That’s a Porsche
@@trapulizer yeah for 100.000k
Power of the Audi 😂 no just no
I'll just have a coyote for those prices
@@pbcapri your talking about the mustang right
The “M” intro had me dying 😂. You see that so much with the badges and don’t forget the 3 color grill insert. +20 hp
i know right. so lame.
Why didn't they mock the "amg" c class though, even though that amg pack only brought looks, the bmw m badge atleast comes with a stiffer suspension
@@drinnify because there's no uber amg thing out there.
@@drinnify it has to do with the customers i think bmw are gonna be bought by young people more often while mercedes is popular with older people.
@@lukas6610 why does that matter in this regard?
I purchased the C300 for luxury purposes. Coming from a 2016 328i it was sporty, fun to drive. But I preferred more luxury and the new c300 does that for me. Brakes as they said jerk you but over time you get use to it. I enjoy my C300, hope you enjoy whichever fits your lifestyle. God bless
Sounds like remorse.
Sounds like you are jealous.
Looking to get a c300 soon, I can't wait🙏🏾 I drove one and it was amazing, the interior is so perfect
I love my c300, for me it's a good all rounder, I feel like I'm paying the price I paid.
Do you mean that as you press the brake pedal , the brake pedal itself shakes/jitters??
I can watch your videos all day! Incredibly informative, funny and professional. 🏆 Thanks for all the hard work you put into making them 😍
You guys always have fantastic content across a ton of cars - and it is very much appreciated! Maybe an updated S4, C43, and BMW comparison is in the works? How do those cars compare to something like a G70? Everyone online seems to compare G70s against Stingers or Acuras but seems to be limited content for the G70 vs zee germans?! Thanks again guys! keep up the great work!
😊😊😊😊😊
Just got the A4 45 Premium Plus. Oozes quality. Drives nicely. Yes, the appearance says business as usual, but when I get in the driver's seat I am 100 percent happy.
loveee my a4, I got it new in 2016 and still drool when I walk up to it in the parking lot lol
Same dude. I just got mine in august & I love it. I upgraded from a 2019 Honda Civic sport. The 2022 a4 premium plus is amazing. I have no issue, I drive it everyday.
As long as you have no interest in driving feels and sportiness (which I have), Audi is the best choice among the 3 German brands currently. And if you are serious about driving feeling and sportiness, even BMW is no longer a really right pick: you better watch for your car outside the German brands.
@@ikarugaxx3749 what do you recommend? I actually just bought a 2009 bmw 328xi wagon and it's pretty awesome.
@@marktroddyn3351 So you presently own both the A4 and the 328?
Love this video. Been cross shopping these three cars for months. Got an Audi A4 on order, just felt so composed, so confident, and did everything right.
Have had an Audi A4 for years, you will love it. Those things are just perfect. Does everything right. It honestly is a dream car for me, its the BEST car.
Haha. Non-car-guys will make the mistake of going for numb & understeer... Enjoy the worst possible layout: front-wheel-drive-based with the engine in front of the front axle.
@@JosvanMeer thanks, really excited. Out of all the cars I’ve tested it just does something to me. Just feels a car refined to the 10th degree.
@@pistonburner6448 I think it’s 40-60 split with 60 to the rear. I’m never going to be pushing the car to the limit, so not a big deal for me. Just want a daily driver that’s super safe and a hint of fun. Blows my CX-5 out of the water.
@@pistonburner6448 It is not front wheel drive based, the quattro versions are rear biased. The engine is mounted longitudinally
German A4 owner here.
If you want the A4 to be more like a sports car, you need to get the full quattro (not quattro ultra technology) with crown gear and rear sport diff. None of which is available in North America.
The a4 is insane too.
and also not available on the german A4 anymore. these times have Sadly passed..
@@questionyourself718 I can still equip it in the configurator. It's only 50tdi though
@@ego4551 when i tried it last time it where not available anywhere.. huh
You have to step up to the S4 for full Quattro with rear sport diff, but then at that price point you're competing against the C43 and M340i and generally both those are still sportier than the S4. IMO the A4/5 lineups is always the goldilocks between the C class and 3 series.
I would love this type of video with 5 series, E-class and the A6
Love your reviews guys! What we need is a 2023 bmw m340i vs c43 vs s4/5 video. What do you guys think?
The BIG advantage all these new 330i/C300/A4 Quattro type luxury sports cars have over the one's from 10-20 years ago is that we've finally reached the point where putting the car into Sport / Comfort / Race / Off-Road / Etc actually makes a real and significant difference to how the car feels and drives.
From the Steering, Suspension, Throttle & Break Sensitivity, Break Balancing, Engine Mapping, Shifting & Exhaust Noise and more all significantly change now. As such you genuinely can have the best of all worlds depending on the circumstances.
I've a top of the line 2004 LS430 Ultra Luxury edition which is 18 years old and in it all the 'Sport' setting does is allow it to Rev a little higher shifting gears. That's it. Even the 'Snow' Setting just starts the car in 2nd gear. That's it.
😁 Love your sense of humour ! Thank you for another great comparison .
The BMW 3 looked amazing.
That 3 series looks so good, so simple that it looks old school(in a good way).
Boring old design
@@retropickups2000 yup G80 front end is boring design.
@@retropickups2000only boring to those who can’t enjoy one.
Every time James says "...and i'm James" he sounds so proud of himself
We’re going to also need a 2023 C43 • m340i • S4 comparison like last year.
I discovered this channel because of their 2022 Honda Civic review(my sister bought one so I HAD to send a good review video to her). I'm so glad to have stumbled upon this masterpiece of a duo because im a massive fan. the intros are a work of art, as always. Never change Thomas and James. the banter between you both is unparalleled :)
Yeah these guys are light years ahead of straight line
Civic is a dream car
My wife and I have a G20 330i with the M Sport package - specifically, it's a 2021, making it pre-LCI. I don't know why we'd want to upgrade to the new one, honestly. iDrive 8? Doesn't seem entirely better than iDrive 7. 7 is just simple to read and simple to use, while looking pretty modern. The performance is pretty much the same, and arguably, the pre-LCI cars look better. Having said that, of the three cars here, we'd probably end up picking that one if we had to choose. The M Sport package is a must, though, if you want the nice and chunky steering wheel and larger M Sport wheels on the outside, which do serve to make the car feel more sporty overall.
The Audi looks great. I've often heard that they have numb-but-accurate steering, but I wonder how much of a deal breaker that is. It's not like our 330i has amazing steering, but there is some feedback to it. Anyway, it just has a low-key, yet sharp, look to it that I personally like.
I just don't find the Benz appealing at all. The body looks okay, though very much a stretched CLA. The interior and such are a big "no" for me. The big slabs that are screens just are not elegant enough to be in "a Benz".
Overall the BMW has been a fantastic car. Perfect? No. Sometimes the braking feel is annoying as mentioned in the video, but it can be adapted to. It gets stellar fuel mileage, too, and though the suspension can be a bit busy on broken pavement, it's a phenomenal highway cruiser. On top of that, it's pretty entertaining to drive.
This is quite a throwback. The old way of shooting videos. I love it
As someone who is actively in the market for one of these cars and (as of this week) has test driven all three, here are my thoughts:
The Mercedes is the best looking out of the 3. The fact that the company has homogenized their lineup is actually a good thing if you are in the market for a C-Class. I truly cannot tell it apart from the CLA, CLS, or E class. Also, that interior. You have to see it in person- it looks so futuristic and feels like a car that won't become obsolete anytime soon. At night it looks like the cockpit of a spaceship from Tron. Now the interior, while easily being the coolest, also feels like the cheapest. For example, the entire bottom line of "buttons"- which is just a tactile strip at the bottom of the center screen, moves regardless of where you push. The center part of the steering wheel is entirely plastic (save for the the 3 pointed star)- and just the odd creak and rattle here just tells me that the Mercedes still is lagging behind when it comes to build quality. The actual driving feel comes off as very uninspired. It's comfortable, but not exciting in any manner whatsoever. The Audi and the BMW are both more fun to drive. Noticeably so. All that being said, the first impression this car leaves is leagues ahead of the other two- and that means most people, seeing these cars side by side and sitting in them for a drive will probably think the Mercedes is EASILY the coolest and most special out of the 3. I know I did.
Now, I have to agree that the Audi in this video is specced to the nines and looks amazing- however, that is thousands of dollars of extra trim. The baseline Audi A4 looks boring. It just doesn't strike your eye the same way the Mercedes or the BMW does. However, the interior, while also being the most boring, is easily the highest quality. Every button, knob and surface feels nice and premium. Not to mention it has a dedicated climate control center (easily one of the best ones in the entire market). All the buttons all feel so satisfying to press and turn. The screen is nice, responsive, and a good size. The truth is- I don't have many bad thing to say about the Audi. It does very little wrong. But just like your little cousin, who is nice and courteous and doesn't get into any trouble but also doesn't try to engage with you in anyway- it's also kind of hard to love. It's very easy to get along with, but sometimes you need to have a little drama and chaos to truly be excited about something. My entire time with the car I just knew that I'd get bored of it.
The BMW falls somewhere squarely in between the Audi and the Mercedes. That huge double screen looks futuristic but also feels like it was just tacked on with no real care or thought (kind of like the Audi screen). The buttons look nice, but don't have anywhere near the tactile sensation of the Audi. The exterior of the car is very classic BMW. Personally, I like it, but it has always been an acquired taste. The Audi and the Mercedes are less offensive, Mercedes being better looking and Audi being worse looking because of it. However, no one buys a BMW for how it looks (as we can clearly tell from recent design choices with the M3). The question is does it drive well? Yes. In my opinion it offers a level of excitement that anyone who buys a car for the driving experience will accept. You may not be wowed by it, but it has true sports car character- just not the performance.
TLDR:
Buy the Mercedes if: you don't really care how it drives, you just want to impress everyone.
Buy the Audi if: when asked what your dream car is you said "just something to get me from A to B".
Buy the BMW if: you want a car that you can get into a little trouble with every once in a while but still take home to your mom.
What about comfort in the mercedes compared to the other two competitors? Don't you notice how the c class (probably far away from the s class) floats on the road? Btw very good and reletable description, had fun reading it
@@crashgenius9k279 it’s almost too lofty on the road if that makes sense. In a sense it feels more like a luxury vehicle than the other two but it comes at the cost of it having a good feel on the road as a driver’s car. In comfort mode the BMW and the Audi are more than comfortable to drive and when you actually feel like pushing them, they actually feel good to drive. The Mercedes just like of lofts around in sports mode.
@@emperormouse5487 ah i get it
All that above i one if the most defined jet friendly discussuion and Review on yt i have read in a while! Thanks for that! :D
This was so well written and the TLDR portion is absolutely accurate 😅
You guys capture the original essence of each one of these.
Great video review... & awesome humor !
I haven’t seen the big 3 go at it in a while thanks guys ❤
The holy trinity of affordability
@@domcars Lol
As my pre lci 330i warranty is coming to an end im looking at all three of these. Perfect timing TH! Great video as always, keep it up!
BMW 330i? I bet that car after 17 years still is great to drive.
So I was right, Germans are good as long as they run especially under warranty. After 20 plus years of a BMW fan including 2 M3’s moved on to Japanese for a bit more reliability. I am sure you can argue otherwise. 😊
@@purwantiallan5089 dude my wife has a 2022 bmw 330 m sport and i drive it every morning to get a coffee, every roundabout i put that thing sideways and it still drives like im driving it off the lot for the first time.
Why, the 330i is really reliable. Just keep it. I am going to keep my A4 for the same reason.
@@MrLalasd he wants to make BMW richer, and isn't smart with his money.
I like people like him. Thanks to him, the used car market is filled with good bargains.
Please sell you cars as soon as warranty expires, so that guys like me can buy them for cheap ;)
This felt like watching BMW and Audi guys arguing. Both wanted their favourites to win🤣🤣🤣
James seemed to be more open minded. Thomas' bias towards BMW really showed. The Audi, IMHO was by far the best looking car of the 3. Thomas was just like meh. I don't think it was even close. The BMW was the most boring and ordinary looking of the 3
@@LetsDIYIt Audi exterior is the best but Mecedes just have outclassed the two with it's interior
@@jackd232 without hard buttons, I gave to disagree. It doesn't matter how it looks if it's a pita to use. Why these manufacturers are putting all touch screen options in a 1.5 or 2 or even 4 ton vehicle is beyond me. It's simply not safe. Again, just for safety alone I'd take the Audi over the Mercedes. If going off looks only, the Mercedes interior is definitely nice, but from a practicality standpoint it's a failure for me. The screen in the BMW is just hideous
@@LetsDIYIt Soon, you will see the big screen comes to Audi A4/S4, it's just how they put more useless features in.😂
@@LetsDIYIt I will take Caddy CT5-V AWD with 3.0TT V6 with the same money, just a way better car if you don't care the badge too much.
The channel just keeps getting better of better.keep up the great work guys
5.3 & 5.4 seconds 0-60 for me is excellent speed. The Audi looks the best here, but I wish you guys got the Brooklyn grey 330 M-sport…then it would have been a tie.
I recently visited the BMW plant where they make the X3-X7 models, and it really helps you imagine how much work is put into modern automobiles.
Lol those cars are junk
@@KushPizzaSleep no
@@KushPizzaSleep your opinion is junk
Honestly you can't go wrong with either, cars have gotten so good that the gap between rivals is so small
BMW Is forever the greatest by far🔥🔥
@@khulisomuambadzi3545 no. Lambo.
@@khulisomuambadzi3545 Yesir!!
Except the Benz doesn't really deliver on what it promises. If it's comfort you're after, why not go all the way and check if you can get a Genesis G80 instead? Same price but larger, more luxurious and getting rave reviews too. Not being able to brake reliably and smoothly should not be possible on a production car in 2022.
Also, I would love to see them drive a comfortable Audi. I never understand why they need to shoehorn in this sporty styling when we're dealing with an understeered FWD platform. It'd probably be a better car when aiming to be a Volvo competitor, rather than BMW / Alfa Romeo whilst falling short of both.
The channel just keeps getting better and better. Keep up the great work guys! 👏🏼
This channel is the current generation’s top gear
I test drove all 3. At the end of the day, I chose the A4. To me, it just was bettet all around.
Just got my first Audi and it’s amazing. Don’t know why I didn’t sooner
Does it shut off when you’re parked with engine running?
The Intro 🤣🤣🤣.. You guys nailed it
I’ll choose the 3 series any day amongst the Germans. But Alfa Guilia is the way to go….drive wise.
Yep. So did Alfa GTV and Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren 2009.
yup. And more stylish but with weird ergonomics.
A "normal" motorized Giulia is like a S/M340/C43 just without the badge. The stuff you get in those performance cars is like its almost free on the Giulia itself.
If i would need to pick a "normal" car it would be the giulia of all three.
Great review as always, shows that you can’t go wrong nowadays just choose your favourite badge
I bet that this car looked amazing.
Genuinely true. Even the long-held like of Germans costing a fortune to maintain must truly be dead for all but the most cantankerous of performance models. Crappy little hateboxes designed to get self loathing sycophants from their house in the burbs to their job in the CBD are dead. Even a big standard Corolla has an infotainment system that pissed on the Germans and short as 10 years ago... Ago. Cheap cars have gotten better and I think that there's a lot to be said for a frugal car these days.
I would actually love to see a price point comparison from Thomas and James on exactly this, show us a Camry, a 320i and a Malibu and really pick at what the Beamer does better, if it even is that much better and if the 20k you spend to get it is actually worth it.
After owning many Germans myself including a e92 335i and a golf GTI mk6 I expect not.
Sounds like they're all terrible, you'll go wrong buying any of them
@@DumbAccordionTricks yeah I don’t know what video this guy was watching 😂😂 they just said new gen bad and the merc got noticeably way worse
@@DumbAccordionTricks feel like cars hit their prime around 2018/2019 before everything went hybrid and became more plasticky, but for buying new cars these are the cards we’re dealt unfortunately
Just got my M2 competition because of you a week ago! Traded in a lifted Toyota Tundra, and yes I live in Canada, so I might be crazy.
Call me crazy but the Audi looks the best, especially in that gray color with the black emblems. Classy
u not wrong
i remember the previous generation of Mercs, if there was 1 LED strip in the headlights, its a C. 2 strips, an E. 3, an S.
now they’ve homogenised it so much its getting hard to tell them apart now. gotta judge it based on its size these days.
They still do the same with the dots in the daylight running parts of the head lights. Mercedes is all about the S class & G Class...everything else is just cheaper watered down versions of them for people that can't afford the Top
if you cant tell the diffrence between the models, imo youre not really into cars, its so easy to differentiate them from each other. They said they could not tell you from a distance what car that is, why would you ever need to spot out a car from huge distance, like if you are in range to see the car actually you will be able to tell them apart. Greetings from Bavaria Germany.
@@cyte5375 definitely, when in range you will be able to tell them apart. but not from far away
Honestly I have a much harder time telling the 222/213 (pre-facelift)/205 apart at a glance than the 223/206.
Great review video! I had considered each of these cars, both the last versions and the new/current ones, and to my surprise I picked the C300. I just bought a service loaner ‘22 with 500 miles on it (with a healthy discount off sticker and an extra year of warranty since it was sold as a CPO). It has the AMG Line package with sport suspension, which I think limits body roll in the corners nicely. This is my first luxury car, first German car, and first car whose MSRP was north of $50K USD. Just got it yesterday so it will be a little while before I really get used to it, but so far I really like it.
By the way, the heated steering wheel turns on when you turn on the heated seats.
Enjoy the car!
How do you like the interior? AmazIng isn’t it?
@@boukm3n Yes, it is amazing, and I do love it! My car has inlaid aluminum stripes in the natural wood dash and enhanced ambient lighting. The interior is a major reason I bought this particular C300.
@@timothycoyne5874 Sadly, you get fanboys here that think everyone buys vehicle for "track day". I'm an Audi owner but love all German vehicles. Enjoy you new car!
The mild hybrid system in the Audi actually helps to reduce the effects of turbo lag so it isn't just for efficiency
No. Its just able to keep important systems running while engine turns off while sailing. Its also capable to brake a tiny bit to recharge the battery
The new bmw update makes it the best for me. The interior looks clean and functional and the dynamics are the best
I am glad you said they were all nice cars just a bit different in personality. Once you get to this class car, they are all nice cars but a bit different. I have worked with BMW for over 35 years and I prefer them, however once you get to this class car just buy the one you like, not what your friend or car buddy likes but get what you like!!!
yeah this is the correct move. go test drive each one, don't listen to online opinions *too* much as it's not throttle house's money that's paying for the car, it's yours 😅 get what makes you, and only you, happiest.
The foliage color is beautiful. Great driving scenery.
You got beaten up a lot in school didn’t you?
And amazing cars too. Bar none.
James: *Autumnal leavery.
Wow guys what a beautiful autumn road! I want to travel there! Greetings from Ukraine!!
Honestly I can't say anything about the new 3 series makes me want to upgrade from my trusty e90 LCI. Both the engine and the hamron sound system make that car sound absolutely amazing no matter what mood you're in. No Audi I have ever been in has had a sound system anywhere close to it, and I don't have a need for any more tech than mine already offers. At least the new car still looks good
Totally agree on the C-class. Test drove one back to back with a leftover 2021 W205 C-300 and ended up buying that one. Saved $$ and I feel like the new C just isn't a big step forward.
"As numb as a sailors arm on a lonely night "ROFLMAO..... BARS!!! ☠️😂😂😂
Crazy to think those are the base models in north america. Here in germany it's pretty rare to see one of these, 90% of them are lower end models like the C200 or 320d/i.
bc gas is cheap here.
Same in the uk.
You see a bmw 330 or c class 300 you know it's someone winning at life.
I wonder how this review would have gone if the three cars were chosen with highest-trim engines. 340 would probably be the best performer. Great video guys!
Yeah this comparison has been done already by a lot of channels/magazines and the 340i won every time.
This type of cars we can almost afford not always expensive versions
@@questionyourself718yet the C43 is 10,000 dollars more expensive than M340i and S4 😂
@@manofsesame3024 the new one? I didnt even knew, thats crazy 😄
"Yeah and I had more hair. It's all on my back, now."😂
*Side Note* I ended up buying a 2023 M240i after the comparison video you guys made. Great videos and I love your channel!
M240i has more bhp than even R32GT-R.
Mercedes gets me with the interior every time. That c class interior looks fantastic especially at night with the ambient lighting. You can have the performance from BMW or extra tech from audi i wont use. The interior of the mercedes at night is breath taking
my words exactly. i don't care about performance. it hurts me if i rev my engine so i want to be polite to my car and derive pleasure from it which even the cheapest Mercedes gives me anyday compared to the bmws and audis.
Fellow b9 s4 owner here, I had a b9 w/out the sport package (diff, suspension) and now have a b9.5 with the sport option. 1000% worth it! Comfort mode drives super smooth.
Back in the day these used to be 30k. Then for a while they were around 40k. Now they are 50k. Crazy how the prices go up over time.
Maybe in the late 90’s they were 30k….for a BASE model
In Turkey, it was 150k TL, then got 450k now these cars are over 4M so shut up..
This would’ve been so helpful 2 months ago when I was car shopping 😅
I was considering each of these cars.
Which one did u get?
What did you go with?
What did you get?
@@asusjackson9286 He got a Volkswagen Jetta GLI
The beginning of this was hilarious! 😂 😂
I own the newest A4 45 and test drove the competition prior to it. Once I sat in the Audi, I knew instantly it was the car for me. The build quality and materials just make the car feel like it should be in a class above the others. Plus, it’s the faster car of the three so my mind was made up very quick
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I also took on a 2019 a4. the bmw has a tight chasis and power train maybe better. the Audi is simply so much tighter from exterior to interior to chasis and transmission. and powertrain. all parts surprise and slot together in a unique fashion that the bmw and mb don't
I prefer the looks of the previous a4 . The B9 looked more aggressive prior to the face lift
Bro stop it once you go inside a benz it destroys audi and bmw destroyyyy it lol
@@fabolousjada5070 No it doesn’t, it’s slower than the A4, and 330i, bimmers and Audi interior is better. Again it’s all subjective at the end of the day
That intro was gold 😂 I love your guys intros. keep it up 👍
As a diehard lovelive fan, Throttle House has done it yet again. Surpassing Carwow. Thanks, TH!
It's superior to car wow by far.
lovelive? As in that anime?
@@pranavk8293 yep. Definitely. I am a diehard fan of lovelive and cars and racing.
There's a body shop guy at my job that has an "M3 318i" M3 badge crooked..... Also I have seen customers come in with X1M, a BASE 530i debadged with an M5 badge, countless BMW X5 35i rebadged as X5Ms, M535is, M750Lis. It's.. It's just depressing
It is embarrassing.. Like come on.. LOL
I've once seen an X5 with an M badge, but it was before the X5 logo so it read MX5, lol.
This video brings back the first time that I've ever watched you guys. The same vid with these 3 models back in 2019. Time flies, 've been watching every vids since then.
I freakin love this channel. Watched the intro four times. Crying. 😂
Awesome , awesome review guys, love your videos and always look forward to the next. Great insight on the vehicles, thank you for the different perspectives given and also for pointing out unbiased critique for all 3 brand as well as praise. See y'all on the next video!
Man, the price for these cars is well above 50k. I live in France and here a well equipped c class costs up to 70k (I'm talking abt the c220d). Its really becoming way too expensive...
i ordered an m3 comp and mildly specced it's 90k
Vive la tva et le malus n’est ce pas 🥲
Amazing video like always guys !!
Ben, the BMW 3 in this case still above the Audi. And Benz.
Awesome review ...im definitely getting the BMW then ...and kudos to the presenters ..very well read and nice word plays and references...
I waited a lot for this video! Thanks guys!
The closing lines❤️ "...there's only one country you trust to serve it."
Proud to be watching your content!
The C class looks better but I still think I’d go with a Beemer
the c class in person is fucking ugly the interior is nice but, the BMW is better overall you can do mods on it bootmod3 and bimmercode and things like that. Just sounds and looks better in my opinion
I personally prefer the A4, but I agree, that C class style is wearing my down. Looks luxurious. I test drove it and really enjoyed it.
@@madmax1631I seen the bmw 330i in person and I would have to say the Benz look better exterior
Love these comparisons! Just an idea you could do the Japanese trio while they are still around, Lexus IS350, Acura TLX, and Infiniti Q50
I drove this lexus right after visiting the Alfa Romeo showroom and BMW. I recommend you to do the same, I would be surprised if you chose a lexus after that ;)
@@rENEGADE666JEDI I understand that they probably drive better. Currently, own a '14 GS 350, but looking for a replacement is hard, especially from the Japanese side of things.
@@rENEGADE666JEDI well, it depends what are your priorities. If comfort and reliability are essential, Lexus is the only choice. If you look for a sport sedan than Alfa is 1st BMW second.
@@silimarina. Yep, I intend to keep my cars for really long periods of time, so Lexus still makes the most sense still. If current reliability trends continue, I may move to another brand as the gap between them and other manufacturers decreases as time goes on.
That'd be an interesting comparison! Each of those cars are far more different from eachother than the A4/3-Series/C-Class. Though for as gorgeous as the Q50's exterior is, the interior is pretty out of date unfortunately.
This used to be the $30,000 question.
It’s called inflation.
Well, even 10 years ago it was still 40+.
I don’t even watch these guys for the cars anymore, I just watch this for them LOL I can care less about an Audi, Beamer or Benz and I still watched this Video and enjoyed it. God Bless these guys for being so awesome as always 😅
You guys comparing MZ to BMW to Audi is your best videos I love when y’all choose sides
I drove a 2022 Audi A4 in the first half of this year, and now I'm driving a 2022 Mercedes Benz C300. My impression is that the Audi is much snappier than the Benz, but the Benz feels far more luxurious. So much more luxurious that it makes the A4 feel cheap in comparison. Overall, I'm much happier with the Benz.
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I just love how throttle house script their episodes 😂😂😂always funny and informative
As a W205 owner (previous gen c class) and general Mercedes fan boy, honestly the new generation has lost most of its appeal. Worse exterior, worse interior (despite being more modern) and worse driving dynamics.
I’ve owned several c classes, but when I’m done with this one I think I’ll be moving on.
The same here. Mercedes is loosing it's vibe, it's feeling... all gimmics and plastics, screens and lights... kinda trying to be a german tesla, but loosing it's famous class and elegance.
Fun fact the first Throttle House video I watched was the 2019 comparison, been loving every upload since!!
Just watched a minute of this and I already love the TopGear style narration 😄
“It is car” had me on the floor 😂😂😂
The start stop in the Audi a4.. or in any audi these days… k.. few details.. 1) doesn’t matter if you’re in dynamic, comfort, or a mix.. 2) also have to make sure you haven’t disabled the button.. but it’s automatically on when you start the car.. 3) if you have air on (whether heat or air conditioning) the car won’t turn itself off at a stop. Most people have air running so yeah.. you don’t save any gas or it’s very very minimal. I turn the button off but only remember to do so when I’m surprised the car shut off at a stop .. it provokes think “uh did my car just die?”.. thoughts. Too scary. Plus it’s a bit harsh.. the start when you let your foot off the brake that is. Maybe in different models it’s better. I’m speaking from owning a 2018 S3
i hella want a 2018 s3 do you recommend it?
So how do I prevent the car from turning off at a stop? Air is always running anyway. The automatic start when your foot is off the break is so annoying. So many cars have that today
Crazy that this is the $50,000 question. 10 years ago these three would’ve started at $30,000.
Not really, i have a 2010 a4 avant which the sticker price was 68k cad or something around 50k, maybe 56k at that time
@@thecanadian1433 That's gotta be fully loaded.
@@marshallhilfman its a premium avant model with sport package and s line, so middle trim, maybe something about 45k brand new
Absolutely no.
The issue is that Americans only get the highest spec versions of these cars. In Europe you get a 125bhp Audi A4 and a 150bhp BMW and Mercedes.
But due to the utterly ridiculous performance wars of the last decade in the US now no producer dares to sell Americans regularly powered cars anymore - despite nobody in the US actually needing these high power engines when you have such a speed limit unlike the Autobahn… but even a 150bhp car can easily go 200kmh on the Autobahn.
@@bingobongo1615 the funny thing is Americans do want lower powered vehicles. Japanese cars with less than 200bhp sell extremely well, it’s just that here in the US BMW and Audi are seen as performance and luxury brands which wouldn’t sell at a lower price because it’s simply not the targeted market.
That intro is priceless!!!!
That intro....EPIC! Great review guys!
About a year and a half ago, I shopped these 3 options (2020, 2021 models). I liked the look of the A4 better with S-line package, and at the time I liked it's interior better as well but it definitely felt like the car the bean counters would drive versus someone in my profession. The 3 series was good and I enjoyed it a lot, but BMWs design language to me is just boring (maybe except the true M cars, but I wasn't shopping that price range. And the C class, everything freaking made noise, they aren't lying when they said it's creeky, they definitely are. So in the end, I ended up buying the best looking, most sporty, quickest entry level sport sedan option... The Alfa Romeo Giulia TI Sport. I know, I know, I'm going to be spending time at the dealer, but it's just a better car.
Alfa interior is just insanely wack
I was actually faced with a similar situation as yours 2 years ago. I went with a Kia Stinger because for $10-15k CDN less than the rest, I got a decently fun to drive and comfortable hatchback that help my haul my 65” Samsung OLED Tv home from Costco. Plus it had a decent TTV6 with all the goodies like cooled seats, HUD, 360 cam etc. $51k CDN brands new was just a bargain for these here in Canada for what you get.
I almost ended up trading it in earlier this year because it got appraised for $45k even though I put on 110,000km on it, but it’s my first car so I couldn’t. Lol
@@HellzHonour I was looking at the Stinger too as well as the G70, but since I was shopping lightly used there wasn't much on the market them for either of them, at least not ones that were optioned the way I wanted, so I didn't mention them.
@@Predator212ma I got the upgraded leather seats (red), and leather wrapped everything. The interior is beautiful, so I disagree with you, however, the infotainment is terrible. Good thing that wasn't a criteria I really care about, I care more for the drive and handling which the Alfa dominates these 3.
@@jamesjacko8546 doesn't dominate the 3series.
I had a 17 & 18 A4… then I decided to do something different.. went to a ‘19 330… it drives wayyy nicer than the Audi. The suspension is better the steering and the way the car feels over the ground. However, I am 6’2” and I’m just too long for the 3 series. I try not to not drive more than an hour because I will get uncomfortable. The size is more narrower than the A4 and the front just feels more “fitted”. I really love driving my 330 but the comfort is starting to become more of an issue for me :/ in the A4 there’s a little more room but still not the same as BMW.
Hi! I feel the same the pedals are offset to the left. I get pain in my right hip. When you break you go to much with your right foot to the left. I love the way the car drives but I am gonna buy a Mercedes or an Audi