Simulator PRO vs. REAL Dogfight: 15 Years of Training Put to the Test!
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2023
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This is the video I've always wanted to make. After countless hours of virtual dogfighting, I've always wondered how I'd fair if I ever got a chance to do the real thing. Well, as it turns out, simming does translate to real-life skills -- to an extent. 
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Cool vid! Please, Please, post this in the Il-2 forums. I agree the devs need to hear your conclusions on G-modeling.
Wow, when you said you were working on something I definitely didn't expect this. What an absolute treat!
Ben, I will say that you were absolutely a G monster! Very impressed with you up there!
I clapped when you went to 8G sustained. Good job! This was an incredibly fun video and I'm ready to go out and try real dogfighting for myself.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Having seen people black out on a roller coaster I assure you that you are indeed more resilient to high Gs than the average person. You also look VERY fit and that puts you way ahead of the curve.
I grew up playing the original top gun on ps1 and then flight sims and ' flight gear' which was amazing back in the day. I didn't fly a real plane till my late 20s, a piper 150 but the instructor said I was lying and I had to have been flying for years already. I told him kind of, only on sims lol. but that's why they allow you to get some of your hours on sims now. it helps immensely with the basics and especially when working on your instrument ratings since you can play around with stuff and test limits in a way you don't want to do in real flight. crap since sim time counts now I should be able to fly the fw190-a8 with my eyes closed lol. now just to convince the guys with the only operational original in Washington state to let me fly her.
I definitely agree. Aces High made my private pilot rating a breeze.
Hey Ben, happened upon this just now. Looks like a good time! Rock'n life!
Loved this, so cool.
Glad you enjoyed it!
3:17, I've just imagined Cartman in a Black nosed 109.
Lmao
Nice. Appreciate the G “testing”. Glad to see a newbie doesn’t grey out. Although I’m sure there are some out there that might.
@flybenfly Hope to hear from you soon!
I play il2 extensively (weekend morning Pacific Time I am always on Wing of Liberty) and I also own a 1997 Extra 200. The biggest difference between simulator is real flying is the latter your life is on the line and you will not feel the same way when you fly super low to ground and do rolls/loops in real life vs. sim like the Sky Combat Ace is taking you on the ride (you feel safe because you are trusting your instructor, you will feel totally different if you try this by yourself). If you search NTSB record Sky Combat Ace has crashed 3 of their Extra over the years and instructors and passenger all died in each crash.
wow good going!
I think I wouldn't have a problem with motion sickness, but being as I get light headed standing up too fast, I don't think I could handle the g's, as much as I'd hate to admit it.
That looked like so much fun!
Impressive. Nice vid
I used to play Red Baron 3D back in 1999. Then I did my glider pilot licence but I also enjoy flightsims today. When properly used they are greath to visit places I have never seen. MSFS in this respect for vfr is excellent.
Great video, the one thing worth nothing about the g test though is that individual g tolerance varies massively person to person, everything from weight, bone density and muscle mass can have an effect. I would say that with your build you are able to sustain higher forces then the average person for sure, having done multiple sustained 6g maneuvers myself I can say how uncomfortable it can be, more so if you have not eaten anything. Another thing that can cause problems is eating habits as well, personally eating a good meal before doing any type of hard flying helps, though what gets a lot of people isn't so much the force itself but rather how it affects their stomachs. Not much worse then trying to fly while feeling very sick.
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I was never into flight sims, but after 20+ years of experience with racing sims one has seen a lot. That's why this went as expected (even a tiny bit better than expected). Well done sir 👍
Thanks!
People who are good at flight simulators tend to do well in real life. But real life flyers tend to stuggle with a gaming simulator if they're not players.
Never flew a sim, but I have flown IAC competition many years ago. That was Fun. May I suggest another video for you. Do a IAC contest, a lot of regions have rent with safety pilot available. Thanks for the ride...
how does this only have 2.6k views....
I had that exact joystick and game CFS, loved that JS, Was in a SQ called Flying Tigers and we used to fly against RAF662 SQ, now one of the members of 662 was a WW2 USAF Pilot vet called Don Archer who flow the P47m Wonderful Winnie , We had a dogfight, me in my P51 and Don in his P47, took about 10 seconds for him to shoot my butt out of the sky :]. His stories about the war brought the glory of air battles crashing down. I believe his stories can be found still online.
always think of this vid when i black out in a couple seconds pulling 4 Gs in Il2 and DCS
Good Stuff
Didn't expect that you'd do so well. I figured a sim would always be too unrealistic.
Thanks! Glad to see our hard work played off.
Great vid sir! I would ask a question about the G-test though. Do you think that in the task saturation of an actual combat, you could have maintained the same quality of anti-G strain? I wonder if this is a factor in how some G-tolerance models are constructed in sims.
Idk about task saturation. It’d be difficult to try to track multiple targets at that G load, that’s for sure. But then again, that’s a a tall order at 1g already.
You are comparing yourself to pilots who may be fighting the psychological stress of being killed with cigarettes and liquor. WwIi pilots were offen not well rested with no sleep issues and leasding a healthy lifestile.
awesome
Where is your db 600 part 3 coming out??
Hey Lot of us are waiting for you to complete Combat tactics and fighter manoeuvering by rober Shaw series
Request if you can finish it
nice lore
I flew with Mouse (Robert Shaw) and DC (Dennis Collins) in 1997...
They gave me the call sign "Vert" since I went UP at the merge. D.C. loved it.
Cool i played a lot also
What? no Battle of Britain by Lucas Arts .... i miss all those square bullets
I knew I’d forget a few
No way I'm enjoying that, if i was 40 year's younger I'd still be miserable, I'm not liking anything over 3g 😅 ,i just don't get any enjoyment out of extreme G force 😅🤠🇬🇧🇺🇸👌
the youtube algo is so cruel
Love how everyone thinks people want face reveal videos
I don't care how many hours you have on a flight sim, if you can't handle the Gs you are toast.
I handled the Gs. Watch the whole video.
I did. Never assume anything or you die.
Happy landings.
Thank you so much for a extremely thought and well executed wonderful video, as a 21 year IL2 player (bit less on DCS) and a MS FFB 1&2 Owner (...sadly now VIRPIL), this was immersing, fantastic & fenomenal🤍
Glad you enjoyed it!
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