I recommend that you use the distributor that 123Ignition recommends. Its a great unit and it has tamed my twin DCOE set up on my Lotus Europa. It starts a lot better, hardly any Weber spit backs & the response is amazing. I had mine installed by a professional tuner with a dyno, which I advise you to do otherwise you are just guessing. Mine is the 123 with bluetooth
123, CSI, Pertronix, Aldon and a few others are all great products and very worthwhile discretely installing in any classic. On the other hand sadly, I can't say the same about Accuspark (and the many other names under which they exist...Powerspark for example) far too many failures for my liking!!!.... Back on the topic of the 123 it is also very easy to install, just take care in that the distributor caps on 123 tend to take 'push fit' HT leads, and hence any existing 'acorn' type HT connectors will need swapping out.
Nice job! I got for my XJ40 a radio with a screen, bluetooth and reverse camera. I'll have fun installing it this winter, while the car is off the road.
Great work Adam. Hopefully they come out with one for the V12 soon. Looking on their website it looks like they my have one, but I have not contacted them. My other option is a Mobek upgrade with dizzy delete. Cheers.
@@LivingWithAClassic yes, Harry of Harry's Garage went with that SNG uggrade. My issue is I don't have a ECU. By the time I sent out my injectors for service and purchase a ECU from AJ6 engineering, I'm almost at the cost of Mobek. AJ6 Engineering does have larger throttle bodies for our V12's. That looks interesting!!
Time to blank off some of your front grilles for faster winter warmups ! Was this the same ignition that Wheeler Dealers fitted to their Series II Coupe ?
Can you switch between two different ignition timing settings? I'm running dual fuel (lpg and petrol), would be good if it could to switch timing to suit the specific fuel.
@@LivingWithAClassic yes but I don’t use the vacuum advance at the moment because that is important for economy at high RPM and strong vacuum (throttle closed, like downshift) now you run it lean (slow burning) and need more time to burn the fuel completely. The MK2 with the 3.8 engine has 19 (distributor !!! ) degrees meening 38 crank degrees. Actually it would even be 42 because 4 degrees static but during acceleration timing tests above 38 the time gain diminished and so I stayed on the safe side away from knocking. Later I was on a Dyno having 175 real HP on the rear wheel and after my disappointment (shouldn’t it be 220?) the Tuner told me yes measured at the Flywheel it would be but 175 on the wheel is the best he had seen on such an engine. Me, happy 🤩
Put electronic ignition on my 1967 Morris minor and it does run a lot smoother than it used to.
Seems to be a good upgrade on most classics. Love the Morris Minor btw!
I love the advancements in aftermarket technology. Looks like fun playing around with the ignition tune.
It is!
I recommend that you use the distributor that 123Ignition recommends. Its a great unit and it has tamed my twin DCOE set up on my Lotus Europa. It starts a lot better, hardly any Weber spit backs & the response is amazing. I had mine installed by a professional tuner with a dyno, which I advise you to do otherwise you are just guessing. Mine is the 123 with bluetooth
Great show and demo on the 123. On the older jags be aware the vacuum pipes to the servo can collapse and give a hard pedal with bad brakes.
Yes that can happen but it was the servo leaking
It has been a very very long time ago but here I am again.
Lovely videos.
Cheers from Belgium!
Welcome back!
123, CSI, Pertronix, Aldon and a few others are all great products and very worthwhile discretely installing in any classic. On the other hand sadly, I can't say the same about Accuspark (and the many other names under which they exist...Powerspark for example) far too many failures for my liking!!!.... Back on the topic of the 123 it is also very easy to install, just take care in that the distributor caps on 123 tend to take 'push fit' HT leads, and hence any existing 'acorn' type HT connectors will need swapping out.
Nice job! I got for my XJ40 a radio with a screen, bluetooth and reverse camera. I'll have fun installing it this winter, while the car is off the road.
Fun upgrade! Hope it goes well
Nice to see your story- I’m in a thinking process for a 123 solution
Thanks!
Glad you liked it
@@LivingWithAClassic Got to give props for going out in the cold to make content for us.
I have 4.2 e type. Will you post your final map so I can copy
Great work Adam. Hopefully they come out with one for the V12 soon. Looking on their website it looks like they my have one, but I have not contacted them. My other option is a Mobek upgrade with dizzy delete. Cheers.
Thanks Jeff!
I plan to use the SNG Barratt system on my XJ-S
@@LivingWithAClassic yes, Harry of Harry's Garage went with that SNG uggrade. My issue is I don't have a ECU. By the time I sent out my injectors for service and purchase a ECU from AJ6 engineering, I'm almost at the cost of Mobek. AJ6 Engineering does have larger throttle bodies for our V12's. That looks interesting!!
True if I don’t have anything I’d go with the Mobek system
Time to blank off some of your front grilles for faster winter warmups !
Was this the same ignition that Wheeler Dealers fitted to their Series II Coupe ?
Not sure if it is actually
The WD installed the basic version where you use a screwdriver to set curve
Thumb up! I've also got interested with ignition degrees of my Jag.
Glad you liked it!
Great videos, thanks 😊
Glad you liked it!
Is this ignition system suitable for the s1 2.8?
Thank you.
You're probably giving it too much WOT for fuel consumption numbers yet, perhaps wait for spring after you've finished your tuning.
I’ll do a fuel consumption test a bit later when I drive it to work again.
How is the 123 doing? Are you still happy with it?
my car does run better with the 123 because I tuned it much better than using little disributor springs.
Glad to hear it’s running better
Can you switch between two different ignition timing settings? I'm running dual fuel (lpg and petrol), would be good if it could to switch timing to suit the specific fuel.
Yes you can. Just switch of the ignition, turn on the ignition, switch curves and then start your engine.
Yes you can. Just switch of the ignition, turn on the ignition, switch curves and then start your engine.
@@LivingWithAClassic Thanks for the reply. Is possible to switch curves while driving?
Does the dizzy lose its programming if the battery goes dead ??
No, it should keep its programming forever according to the manufacturer
I am surprised because I run 38 degrees on my 3.8 MK2 so 24 degrees seems way off
It’s taken from the information about the stock distributor. I get about 34 degrees at 3600 with the vacuum advance
@@LivingWithAClassic
yes but I don’t use the vacuum advance at the moment because that is important for economy at high RPM and strong vacuum (throttle closed, like downshift) now you run it lean (slow burning) and need more time to burn the fuel completely.
The MK2 with the 3.8 engine has 19 (distributor !!! ) degrees meening 38 crank degrees. Actually it would even be 42 because 4 degrees static but during acceleration timing tests above 38 the time gain diminished and so I stayed on the safe side away from knocking.
Later I was on a Dyno having 175 real HP on the rear wheel and after my disappointment (shouldn’t it be 220?) the Tuner told me yes measured at the Flywheel it would be but 175 on the wheel is the best he had seen on such an engine.
Me, happy 🤩
i still prefer to stay old school points and condenser
It’s fun to try new things though