Fixing Euron Greyjoy
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- Euron Greyjoy in Game of Thrones is by far one of the worst villains, so lets take a crack at trying to fix him. Because he's one of the worst aspects of season 7 and 8 of Game of Thrones.
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Character Direction (2:06)
Book Comparison (3:39)
Impact (5:26)
Goals and Motivations (8:41)
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There's a lot of defense for the actor Pilou Asbaek and his ability to act, which to me was fine, the main issue was the direction he pushed the character. Another quote from Fire Cannot Kill a Dragon from Pilou Asbaek states: "So I had an idea for season seven. I said, "what if we made him a bit more like a rock star, where you don't know if he's going to kill you or fuck you?""
Another one: "I know exactly how to be this (character). He's gotta be charming, he's gotta be arrogant, he's gotta look Jaime right in the eye and say it with the biggest fucking smile because he's an idiot and a prick, and that's what I like about the character." David and Dan said, "Let's try it out." after the scene they said, "We're so fucking happy you insisted on that."
So from those quotes, it seems like Pilou Asbaek was pushing for the character to be more high-energy and over the top. So I don't feel like it was just the script that was bad.
Thinking about it now game of thrones would have made an awesome anime, the magical elements would have less restrictions. If the author was Japanese we would have had something just as big as attack on titan
IMO this is Pilou making the best of a bad situation. He couln't play book Euron, so he wanted to at least play his Euron - and not whatever the fuck D&D would manage to come up with.
I know nothing about the books but His Euron is great and I am terrified but after getting to know the Euron in the books I'm honestly intrigued and admire him as a villain
Also, Euron in the books have the ability to skinchange, has a magical horn that can bind dragons at his will and a slave of warlocks.
If you guys want to know more about book Euron, you should check this video that gives you more detail of his character and what he will do in the next books:
ruclips.net/video/sbX_ak0N1EI/видео.html
They said they didn’t have a character with “rockstar swagger,” as if Pedro Pascal’s performance of Oberyn Martell didn’t happen???
He was epic
Sadly, they probably forgot about him because they killed him off so early instead of keeping around for a few more seasons
@@fucktiktok631no oberyn dies in the book too. His death was just perfect and a example of peak game of thrones writing. Its okay when a cool charachter dies especially with great writing and tension.
DnD kind of forgot about Oberyn Martell
@@kc_h7h I think they mean as in the energy that the actor gives off. Oberyn had that arrogant but spicy Spaniard vibe to him that made him feel like fantasy-Zorro. They tried the same with Daario but it clearly went nowhere, and Euron absolutely had none of that. He feels like an insufferable frat boy who writes a character only the actor will enjoy playing.
The more I learn about Euron Greyjoy, more I feel sorry for the actor that played him. He could've been the best villain on the show and one of the best villains of all times. When I first watched the show I hated every second of Euron's presence but in the books he's something entirely different and extremely interesting
Pilou Asbaeck actually contributed to Euron's personality change. I don't think he understood the original character either.
@@murdockfiles9406 I don't think that's the case, he is a great actor but he had no time to shine also the lines he was given were just trash. They stripped Euron of his true nature reducing him to a trash talking teenager wannabe hard funny guy
@@murdockfiles9406 It seems to me that since they were already changing the character, he kinda went "fuck it, just have fun". I saw an interview with him on how he was so stoked to get the part since book Euron was so dark and interesting, but then became so disappointed when after he signed on he was told that they weren't making Euron like the book.
Lord Blacktide got one of the most brutal deaths in GoT/ASOIAF History he was cute in seven pieces since lord blacktide is faithful to the 7 and to ad Insult to injury he looted his corpse and took his cape for himself.
I think the point of Euron Greyjoy is that he's scary because he'll stick a finger in your bum. If you like it, that means you're gay which could spark an existential crisis in some. Do you mean that's different in the books?
Also, if they wanted a pirate with "Rockstar Swagger", why not include Aurane Waters? He seems much more the type.
Great point but he is so superfluous to the plot I can’t imagine what they would do with them. Cersei doesn’t have many council scenes
Without Euron, no Greyjoy fleet working with Cersei.
@@Sulla-ps3jv That shouldn't even have been a thing. We should have had Victarion trying to get to Daenerys in Meereen, while Euron invaded the Reach. But they just had to rush it and compress everything after Euron's introduction to 2 seasons with fewer episodes than usual, so there wasn't any room for that.
They refused to add a Velaryon, even if it's a basterd...
That would require D&D to have actually read the books
I think Asbæk's idea for the rockstar swagger demeanor is actually a good one, if you use it as contrast. Make the swaggering side his "smiling eye", as the books called it, and then add a second side for his "blood eye", where he drops the swagger entirely and becomes deathly serious and frightening by contrast. Having a character put up a more silly front makes it far more effective when they drop the persona and show just how dangerous they really are
Basically GOT’s version of two-face
Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass
Sounds like Lalo Salamanca.
I actually thought that Lalo in BCS was what Show!Euron should've been.
Lalo type beat
I don't think any actor did a bad job. It's just D&D are so unbelievably awful they make everyone look terrible. I shudder to imagine how bad Tywin would look if he was around beyond season 4
Ramsay did go past season 4, and they did ruin him by the end.
Even if they did used book euron he still wouldn't be the right person for the job, him as book euron would be a horrible casting mistake at least in my opinion
@@bullymaguire9863 oh yeah my bad. He decided to fight on an open field instead of staying in his castle and 100% defeating Jon Snow 🤣
@@bullymaguire9863 Ramsey dies at the end of S6, but was bad long before S4. Unlike Joffrey, he was just way over the top.
@@anwynoakenshield he said past season 4 you gibbon
I've always considered Euron to be Martin's love letter to Lovecraft. More of a dark priest than a pirate. Not an an R rated Jack Sparrow with a stupid grin on his face.
There are some convincing hints that Euron might be about to bring the Apocalypse to westeros, with enormous blood sacrifices and him tearing down the wall. What might become the books number one threat was relegated to a finger in the bum joke.
Yeah Euron is basically Satan. Perhaps the most twisted and overtly evil character in the novels.
Perfect analogy
Euron in the books: Messenger of the apocalipse
Euron in the show: MY BALLS ARE BUG
His introduction was actually really great.
Then his character immediately fell apart.
He had the spirit of his book character in his introduction, then after that turns into the pirate captain from SpongeBob
Wouldn’t call the scene where he killed Balon great but it was definitely servicable introduction that provided potential
@@joeyjerry1586 It’s passable by itself, and amazing compared to what we got
Its not, he just spawned on the bridge and did the thing which no one gave a f about
Euron's introduction in the books (or at least, the coronation scene) was even more epic in the books - like seriously one of the most gripping moments. It's in A Feast for Crows, Chapter 19. Check it out if you can, and the rest of the books too!
And anothe blunder by Dumb and Dumber.
Euron was extremely menacing in the books. And they turned him into a bargain bin Jack Sparrow.
I don't get why people keep comparing him to Jack Sparrow. Admittedly I've never watched POTC but the clips I've seen of him don't make him anything alike aside from being pirates. Show Euron just seems like an obnoxious douche.
Everyone says “Dave and Dan ran out of books to adapt” and that endlessly infuriates me. No they didn’t, they chose to stop adapting the books after book 3/season 4. After season 4 the show is no longer an adaptation, it becomes loosely inspired by the books. There could have been 8 seasons alone up to Jon Snow’s death, that being the end of A Dance of Dragons.
Aegon, Victarion, Willias, Garlan, Quentyn, Daven, Stoneheart, Belwas, JonCon, Lem, Edric Storm, Arianne, Arys Oakheart, Kettleblack Brothers,DarkStar, Edric Dayne… All murdered by D&D.
Apart from Areo Otoh, I don't think Brienne, Asha, Arya, Samwell and probably Alayne chapters too from AFFC would have worked on the show, they had very less action, very few deaths and felt boring at times.
@@no_one8224 Still no reason to just almost entirely stop following the books. They could have been abbreviated and still adapted accurately.
@@no_one8224 I actually loved everyone of these chapters, but you may have a point. Yet they could have just adapted those quickly in a few scenes by still keeping the chore of the story, kind of like they did with Daenerys in the earlier seasons ( there was a lot cut with her ).
@@no_one8224 when the show got away from good characters having clever dialogue exchanges that advanced the plot in favour of action, the show went downhill. Game of thrones is about personal and ideological conflict in a feudal world, not sword fights. The best scenes in the show are just people talking to each other.
I think Pilou Asbaeck could have played book Euron, his first scene in the storm where he kills Balon is the closest he feels to his book counterpart. The silent menace who will stand gracefully despite the storm going on around him. Shame D&D changed it to "finger in da bum!"
Compared to Joffrey and Ramsay, Euron never really had a "Oh shit!" moment, that gets you to truly despise the character. With Joffrey it was Ned's execution and Ramsay I'd argue its his senseless torture of Theon. If they adapted The Forsaken chapter, this could have been the moment where the audience truly hates Euron.
That's the best point. Pilou COULD have been Book Euron, if the show writers didn't fuck him over.
To me the main issue is that they blended Euron with Victarion. I feel like the actor would've been appropriate for Victarion in a faithful adaption.
I don’t understand why people say this. To me this character the show made is nothing like either of them
Nah Victorian is grim and threatening. But he would have made a much better henchman for Cersei if that’s the road they wanted to go. The Crow’s Eye is not someone who dances to another person’s tube.
@@BlueSkullFish I agree but this show “Euron‘s” personality was nothing like victarions is all I’m saying. But yes book Euron is no one’s lickspittle
I am still mad about what they did to the Greyjoys. The Greyjoys, especially Balons brothers, are among my favorites in the books, not because they´re so likeable (they´re absolutely not), but because they make up such an interesting trio. Aeron, the slightly mad and devout priest, Victarion, the fierce warrior and stupid af, and Euron, who in my opinion is the fucking Antichrist. They left out the first two (yeah, there is a priest, but its not like he has a name or does anything) and completely fucked up Euron. I mean... they could at least have made him more "evil" by revealing that he raped his brothers or by including that monologue from the books where he explains how he is the godliest men of all, because wherever his ship appears, people start to pray. Then again... would have probably sounded like a joke from series Euron anyway.
If it was HBO, he'd end the monologue by shouting "I WILL FUCK THE QUEEN!"
One reason I think Euron Greyjoy works so well as a villain is the fact that he is the culmination and possessed traits of the other major antagonists of the series. Look at every villain we’ve encountered, and you can find at least one aspect of their character in Euron. For me, the most obvious similarities can be found in Littlefinger, Tywin, and Ramsay.
Like Littlefinger, Euron is an ambitious, conniving, and highly manipulative individual who is easily capable of giving off the impression of someone who is trustworthy, successfully hiding their true selves and their true motives. Almost everyone trusts Littlefinger. The ironborn love Euron. Euron’s act is so convincing that Victorian (whose wife was seduced/raped by Euron) has to remind himself that Euron’s gifts are poisoned. Only the other members of House Greyjoy seem aware of Euron’s true self.
Like Tywin, Euron is ruthless, shrewd, analytical, and very intelligent; a political and military genius. He makes enemies into allies by giving them seemingly important lands and titles. He even brings a rival at the Kingsmoot to his side by promising him a marriage to his own niece, Asha Greyjoy. Anyone he can’t bring over is dealt with. The only person Euron lost a battle to was Stannis the Mannis himself.
Ramsay’s and Euron’s similarities are probably the most obvious. Both are disgusting and despicable sadistic psychopaths who rape, murder, and torture people just for the fun of it. There is no empathy, remorse, shame, or a fraction of a conscience to be found in either of them. Euron’s torture of his brother Aeron is much like Ramsay’s torture of Theon. They both even have a favorite torture technique: Ramsay flaying, Euron cutting out tongues. Even taking all of this into account, Euron easily surpasses Ramsay in the sadism department, and the Mountain too for that matter. He has boasted of pillaging, burning, raping, and killing his way around the world as a pirate. He bragged about forcing a group of warlocks into cannibalism. When his brother Victarion discovers Euron got Victarion’s wife pregnant, possibly by raping her, Euron mocks him as a cuck. In TWoW, Euron reveals that he is a serial kinslayer and incestuous abuser, having raped two brothers as children and murdering another three.
Of course he has traits with other villains (Cersei’s narcissism, Joffrey’s delusions of grandeur, Vargo Hoat’s army of freaks, etc.) but Littlefinger, Tywin, and Ramsay are the most apparent.
Add in the fact that he is a dark sorcerer and a potential warg and greenseer like Bran, and you have the scariest villain in fantasy, if not one of the scariest villains period. I had nightmares about this man. Absolutely terrifying.
Viserys Targaryens actor did way better and they act kinda the same
The big difference is Viserys is meant to be a loser with no real power while Euron is actually supposed to be scary and capable
@@rapturescorner5964 I think he is pointing out the acting chops. D&D are hacks, but I don't buy this actor as being capable of playing Euron.
Viserys actor is actually pretty good. He had a great villain role in Doctor Who at one point.
I love your suggestions and the idea that Mads Mikkelsen would fit book Euron really well. He's an amazing actor with great mistery and charisma implemented into his roles.
Replacing one Dane with another 🤣
@@acediadekay3793😂😂
Imagine if the Rhaegal got killed in the middle of the sack of kings landing! Or if they showed dany being in a deeper sense of mourning over the loss. Would have been a much cleaner way to portray Dany as mad
Best way to drive her mad is have a monarch who is loved by the people and turns them against her. This doesn’t work in the show seeing as people hate Cersei while in the books, we have Aegon Targaryen who will most likely be loved.
They SPECIFICALLY took the most insane path in order to shock the audience, which is all the last season boiled down to.
I think the biggest mistake was adding Euron at all so late and with little development of the Iron isles. In the books we actually don't know that much about Euron. Most about him is shown through other characters' eyes, like his brother Victarion. The books do a great job explaining how Victarion is crazy as fuck, but even someone like him comes as level headed compared to Euron, and that is shown not with Euron scenes but instead stating how Victarion doesn't dare to defy him, at least face to face. Other than that, I don't remember many Euron scenes, and that's why I think adding a character that is still an enigma is wrong from the start.
Shoulda killed Balon off in Season 5 and do The Kingsmoot there with more build up and development.
Khal drogo had that cool charming smirk with his badass vibe. If they implemented that kind of cool brooding but violent charmer, it would have come off better than the annoying arrogance they portrayed him with. They could have made his confidence and superiority over Jaime much more thought out while keeping it subtle. The audience for got aren’t dumb. We know how to read into things without it being forced into our faces
The **only** scene where he looked *truly* intimidating was when he came down onto the ship- in that moment, he looked properly psychotic- & like you said; killing the Sand Snakes was actually carthartic to the audience...
The dumpest part about euron killing reghal isn't even that dany kinda forgot. It is that it is impossible for the dragon to be killed by skorpions. In the season prior the showed that they cant pierce through dragon scales but now the can lol. If they wanted to make Euron menacing the should have made him use a magical artifacte like the dragon horn or something like that.
It is possible to kill a dragon if you shoot it in the eye.
@@spacemegalodon5049 yes but not in the chest.
The Balista Pierced Drogon in Spoils of War, it just didn't puncture any organs, though the scene in Season 8 is still terrible
@@MajorMlgNoob no. You can clearly see that the Spears was between his scale and his skin but didnt get deep. And it took 2 atemts to land 1 shot. 1 season later the dragon gets noskoped and it just tears through his scales like nothing.
@@lokidoki525 I think it hit the Drogon's shoulder joint. While in this case it hit the neck which would have thinner scales.
The actors that played Joffrey and Ramsey killed it
Show Euron feels like they tried to adapt book Victarion instead, but still messed it up.
I wouldn't say Victarion has rockstar swagger. The only character trait they share in common is fighting with a big axe.
@@maliziosoeperverso1697 The "dumb as a bag of rocks" quote by Mr. Martin does ring true with show Euron though.
The actor was good he literally wanted to play euron like he was portrayed by the books but he did the best he could with the script he got
That’s just not true.
@@Creabsley Yeah, I don't know why everyone repeats that. The guy wanted to play it edgy Jack Sparrow from the beginning.
I still prefer show Euron over (later) show Tyrion. At least Euron was somewhat entertaining, sticking fingers up everybody's bums, finally murdering annoying Sand Snakes and just being hammy as hell. Tyrion is giving dumb advice, being dumb in general, saying "Varys no cock" jokes and then he says Bran the Broken Dick has the best story despite skipping a whole season.
@@masterexploder9668 can’t blame Peter tho that’s just D&D being brain dead writers
Only good thing in show Euron is killing fuckin' Sand Snakes. And please, make video about how D&D destroyed Ellaria Sand and Sand Snakes. Their book version is totally different characters! It's shame, shame, shame.
Basically, we need to change everything to fix this character.
Not change... RESTORE. To the original Euron. TV Euron is the changed creature.
This was the single greatest missed opportunity in the entire show.. book Euron is absolutely captivating and has one of the most interesting backstories in the series. Mads Mikkelsen would've been absolutely perfect
My man using the Gaunter O'dimm theme from 'The Witcher 3: Hearts of Stone" makes my day.
Khal Drogo is intimidating just by his stare
Joffrey is unpredictable but let’s his minions do his dirty work
Ramsay gets his hand dirty but uses methods that doesn’t involve being over the top crazy
Euron in the books wants a lovecraftian apocalypse
He was terrible in the show. I mean he is happy he is the man who killed Jaime Lannister but Jaime lost his sword hand what an achievement...
He was apparently just wading around in the ocean, with all the chaos happening around him, happened to see Jaime, and then decided that "killing the Kingslayer" was what his life's true calling was all along.
Book Euron would have considered killing Jaime to be nothing more than business as usual rather than a life goal.
I just love it that you play the tune form Gunter o'Dim in the background while talking about a devilish character
Reading the books after the show was such a treat, after the 3rd book its basically a totally different series. Seriously if you watched the show you owe it to yourself to read the books, I never loved fantasy books but GoT got me into the genre by just how weird and terrifying it gets.
Probably the most interesting and enigmatic character from the books currently
a spinoff show following Euron's sailing adventures with an accurate portrayal of his character from the books would be interesting for sure
@@theworldtocome7977 I’d rather just have winds and dream of spring. Couldn’t care less about more shows tbh
@@matthewtait2939 imagine reading unironically lol cringe
@@Sajuek okay
I kinda disagree with the "overacting" analysis on account that it feels to me that the directors wanted Euron's character to lean more into the pirate aspect, which does make sense why he's so over the top since he's actively trying to make everyone around him think he's unhinged and unpredictable. If this character was a generic pirate and not Euron, he would have been fantastic, just not the true Euron: the populist occultic psychopath who wants everyone to think he's a god of death.
I hope you'll do a similar video about other characters, like the Sand Snakes.
Please, do not mention the Sand Snakes. If I hear about them I'll off myself
But you need the bad poooosy
@@gawd6261 You want a good girl, but you need the *BAD PUSSY*
that finger in the bum is the most "iconic" line and performance for this character. says a whole lot.
mads mikkelsen would have been terrifying as an book accurate euron
I definitely think that D&D were feeling increasingly insecure about being associated with a "nerdy" fantasy series like GOT (see "stay-at-home moms and nfl fans" quote"), so they were using this interpretation of Euron as a way to lash out against their own show by being overly ridiculous.
I think you hit the nail on the head.
Them: "It can't be done!"
Supercuts Delight: "Lets see about that"
I swear there was an interview in where Pilou Asbæk stated that he was vastly disappointed in how D&D wanted the character portrayed as he had read the books to learn about his character before hand.
I seen that too , I don’t know where but I’m glad I’m not the only one who heard that
D&D came off as jealous writer wannabes that couldn't accept the fact that GRRM is way better than they can ever be
Cool, can we get a Fixing Stannis next?
The One True King of Westeros
@@LegionCinema Yes
The Mannis
@@akmonra The one and only
I don't think Stannis himself really needs fixing, it's the plot around him that went askew.
It feels like after S4, they began to realize they would actually have to continue certain story lines themselves and decided to gut them. I generally enjoyed S5 and 6, but you can tell they had no idea what to do with Dorne and basically cut it to shreds. Same with the Iron Islands and the Three Eyed Crow, even with a lot of the stuff in King's Landing was ended fairly abruptly by wiping out half the characters (although at least it was satisfying and enjoyable to watch). I understand that as the story progresses, it becomes more and more bloated and has a very wide scope with a lot of threads to keep track of which is much easier to do in a book and TV/film is exponentially more complicated to plot out and it all has to fit in a certain amount of time etc, but it feels like they didn't even try and just decided to flush half the plot out the air lock and do the most brain dead, dash-to-the-finish interpretation of the central plot which had the clearest end point and therefore, required the least effort writing wise. Sprinkle in a couple fan-service things that they probably didn't even put together from reading the books themselves and got off the internet like Clegane Bowl and remembering to bring back Gendry from his ocean voyage and bam fixed it, right?
I'm not even sure what my original point was, this just became a cathartic rant, I hope someone can make sense of this XD
EDIT - I forgot to mention how they tried to merge certain stories into others (eg Young Griff). This would be fine if done elegantly and seamlessly, but it was done with the grace and subtly of throwing a bowling ball through a stained glass window. This show needed 10 seasons minimum, but nah lets just cut the biggest cultural phenomenon on TV short because some how they thought they could do better.
Honestly, after they had Yara/Asha fail to save Theon, I thought that was their way of just writing the Iron Islands out of the show to help streamline things, especially since they hadn't done anything with Euron since she stole his entire fleet, and I thought that was the right decision at the time...and still do.
I love the addition Gaunter O'Dimm's theme in the video. Hats off to you good sir!
Maybe they could fix him in the Jon Snow sequel. Maybe have him be revived by some form of magic, maybe the Drowned Gods like Patchface might of been. So this would be a culture shock to Euron and unlock his memories of who he truly is. The Crow's Eye. This sends Euron on a crusade to bring about true apocalypse, causing Jon Snow to go on a journey as well to finally ascend to Azor Ahai while confronting his past trauma and demons like Daenerys, Ygritte, Eddard, Catelyn, Rhaegar, Mance, Lyanna, Robb, Rickon, and others that Jon has thought himself to have failed in some way.
this is a fantastic idea and i wish they would use it!!!
You should do a video on the way book Ramsey is worse show Ramsey
Okay but Mads as Euron would be interseting
The rockstar excuse isn’t even true lmao. Daario Naharis, at least when he’s first introduced, had that rockstar swagger to him, like in the books. That’s just a lie haha
Daario was lame on the show. In the books he has blue hair, blue beard, and is generally far more psychopathic. When the HBO version says things like "just kill them all" it doesn't sound serious, it just sounds like he's engaging in weird pillow talk.
I don’t understand this weird narrative where people defend the actor and claim he had read the books and wanted to play book Euron. I don’t think he ever said that. However In a danish interview somewhere he talked about it being his idea to make Euron like this and that he didn’t read the books and didn’t care to. He also said the show ending was ‘perfect in every way’
How to fix the character: Read the books.
That's how you fix all the characters heh.
The only thing book Euron and show Euron have in common is their name, nothing else.
Poor Pillow. I genuinely like him, and if he weren't playing _Euron Greyjoy_ I might have enjoyed his character.
RIP 🦑
The only reason I feared Euron in the show was because of his immense amount of plotarmor
This role has harmed poor actor so much…
Book Euron: terrifying priest-like warrior with a cursed eye who ravages the world by pillaging, raping and slaughtering whoever comes into his path, believes himself to be a human god, wishes to become the supreme ruler of the Ironborn, has his crewmen's tongues carved out to prevent them to tell people the atrocities committed on board, whose ship's deck is red for the blood of the continuous human sacrifices, who kills and tortures mercilessly countless priests and carries dozens of broken religious idols to assert his dominance over the gods themselves, who wants to use an ancient magical horn to bend dragons to his will, who wants to commit a massive human sacrifice to summon a lovecraftian deity from the sea depths and use it to ravage and dominate the whole world as its new supreme god and master
Show Euron: I fuck the queen lol
Book Euron is so powerful and terrifying that he even mind breaks a group of Warlocks. But I'm not surprised D&D just made him an insignificant pet of Cersei. It was a grave mistake to give those two the job.
Ahh man even though this show is dead and buried this guy will never stop bashing season 7 and season 8 😂
Things that should have happened in Season 8 :
Go back to the 10 episode format to give the scenes time to breathe. Bran gets his personality back. He is no longer robotic after fully mastering his powers. Jaime goes to The Twins where he finds Edmure Tully laying low with his wife. He tells Jaime that Arya had freed him. Now lord of Riverrun & The Twins, he and Jamie gather the loyal, and head to Winterfell. The remaining children of the forest, Howland & Meera Reed show up with their people at Winterfell. There's no tension between Sansa & Daenerys because the Nightking is too big of a threat for politics. The NK is the big bad end boss, not Cersei or Darnerys. Tyrion goes back to being smart again, and suggests sending scouts (like he used in season 2 for Stanis) to King's Landing & Dragon Stone to see what Cercei is up too. After the wall came down, The Night King flew down the coast from Eastwatch while his generals proceed south with the dead. The NK burns Kings Landing & the Red Keep to the ground. After a demoralizing battle in Winterfell, the dead swarms, and overruns the castle. The unsullied, dothraki, Nymeria with her wolf pack, and the dragons keep the dead army at bay while the living flee south. In King's Landing, half a million dead (the other half were scorched) rise with the NK leading. Euron, his fleet, and the golden company are part of the dead now. Yara survives because she was tied up on Euron's ship, and was not in the city. Cersei, Qyburn, The Mountain, and a handful of Lannister soldiers had escaped, and headed north. The Night King's southern army decimates every kingdom while they head north. Cersei realizing the fallacy of power while having a miscarriage becomes a shell of herself after seeing what the Night King did with Viserion. Arya & the hound stay with the northern armies. The living from the north, Edmure, Jamie, and Cersei all cross paths at the God's Eye, and are cornered by the dead army on both sides. Arya successfully kills Viserion with a dragon glass arrow through the eye (since they kept showing her practicing her archery). The Night King now on foot creates a blizzard to blind the living. Melisandre, Kinvara and Quaithe arrive with hundreds of red priestesses, and shadowbinders to counter it. They also create a giant ring of fire around the living with only a small pathway to the Vale. The Night King & Craster's sons are the only dead that can walk through the fire. Daenerys proceeds to keep burning the dead outside of the fire circle. The night king kills Rhaegal with an ice javelin. This prompts Jon, and all the fighters with Valyrian or dragon glass weapons to attack him & his generals. The Mountain tries to kill the Night King but is cut in half. His torso crawls away. Jon, Jorah, Grey Worm, Theon, and Brienne, all charge the generals. Theon gets mortally wounded killing the last white walker general. The night king takes on all of the best fighters in Westeros with ease. Sandor follows & gives his brother a mercy killing by decapitating him. Jamie then hands Sandor Widow's wail. Bran worgs into the night king's mind to see who he was. This is the great war. It doesn't just last one day. End Of Season 8
Oh no I understand the book of Euron grayjoy is a lot better because he’s more terrified for the fact he’s a cold cunning, but of course mysterious the stuff he brings is so alien the form that he had one of his men alone burn his lungs the next day he captured warlocks and drink there shade potion of theirs. But of course there’s still more we don’t know we only know from his brothers perspective but not a lot more, but that is perfect.
Hell if they have the actor who played as the TV show Hannibal Lecter as Euron aka Crows eye that be perfect
Euron probably had the worst adaptation in the series.
Can we just appreciate my man's dream fancast for Book Euron is Mads Mikkelsen. Your taste continues to impress, my good man!
I was genuinely blown away by the differences of this character.
Understandably in the books, he's a total enigma. He's a library of knowledge, diplomat and charismatic whilst simultaneously being hated and loathed.. everything about his character is being is incredibly vague, you always know that anything its said he's done is always watered down compared to actual events.
Show euron sucked, saying they wanted a Rockstar is so stupid seeing as daario was a rockstar in the books who was then watered down and thrice replaced throughout the show.
The producers started off keeping fairly close to source material, but then the cuts became incredibly obvious and the as soon as they ran out of book.. they went completely off the rails.
I think part of the reasons Euron sucked so hard is because in the books he's a magical horror - and they wanted to stray away from that kind of aspect of the show, so they really didn't have much to do with him other than the lazy plot beats.
Yeah I feel like a big aspect of the books is magic went away and now it’s coming back, The dragons hatched The white walkers are rising again spells are suddenly starting to work again, And I think that freaked out D&D for some reason 😅
@@edanridge3023 it's why we didn't see bran for so many seasons as well - they didn't know what to do with the magic, and honest to god they said they didn't want to include too much of it so it would appeal to "sports fans and single moms" 😐
@@staytuned2L337 yeah I think the reason they had so much fear is they they had cut down a lot of the magic in the early seasons because it was expensive, George Rr Martin already is a low magic writer and people started to say The reason the show was so successful was because it was low magic so it was more of a drama medieval fiction, rather than a fantasy (which I don’t agree with entirely I think it was one first fantasy shows, including the ones that are being made now where they actually focused on dialogue and took itself seriously as an art form rather than just a “corny fantasy” at least at first lol) so when euron shows up Who is a straight up eldritch sorcerer they didn’t know what to do with him (is the sports fans and single mom‘s thing a real quote cause if so that’s aggressively stupid)
@@edanridge3023 Agreed!
As far as the quote goes - it's not verbatim, but basically yes. Likewise with saying "themes are for 8th grade book reports" ☠️
There were a few youtubers specializing in GoT at the time who were happily willing to gape D&D's buttholes after that tragedy and used some of those quotes either from the dvd or interviews (I can't remember) but indeed, it's one of those stupid things that live rent free in my head at pretty much all times.
If they were trying to go for "rockstar" and "swagger" they completely failed as he just came across as cringey the entire time, man my blood boiled. You made great points as usual 👌
I haven't read the books but I love watching videos about them by people like Alt Shift X, and he has some great informative videos on characters the show didn't really do justice.
You get the feeling of Euron from the books being the actual big bad, with the whole lovecraftian side of the world of ice and fire that is literally lurking under the surface. Euron in the books seems like a herald of the endtimes and a figure that could and probably would sink the world beneath the waves.
And in the show we got a fuccboi.
I am looking forward to experiencing House of the Dragon alongside Supercuts Delight. Will be a blast!
I'm keeping my expectations super low, so I won't be disappointed
@@akmonra it's based on a book thats already completed and the directors have said they wouldn't deviate from the books.
As always, your videos are rockstar swagger.
Book Euron: Eldritch dread pirate who's goal is to bring about the apocalypse.
Show Euron: Rockstar fuckboy
The best way to fix pretty much everything in this show would just have been to get D&D to fuck of at the second they got tired of it and hire someone else who actually cares about the legacy of a show that could have been remembered as the best of all time.
fixing = making him like in the books
Idk, I feel like your major hammering on Pilou’s acting is based off of him trying to make the best of a bad situation. Though I do agree that they’ve should introduced him sooner in order to make him feel like an actual threat. Ultimately, show bad-books good.
What's the movie/series at 2:48?
The one with Mads
It’s called Death Stranding. It’s a game
Can you do "Fixing the Sand Snakes" next pls
That and “Fixing Stannis” and a “Fixing The Northern Plot”
@@gfilmer7150 "Fixing everything" tbh
@@chrismelow3543 Yep. As well as "Adding Aegon"
I think the reason Daenarys' ending flopped so hard on the show is because they didn't do enough to build up Euron's story. As well as Faegon and the Golden Company.
Every storyline in this show is a flop and a joke compared to the books.
@@gooby214 Yea but I think Dany and Jaime in particular were affected the most. Jaime especially has a TON of echoes of Aegon 4th from Dunk n Egg, Brienne is the same with Duncan the Tall and I think he and Brienne's stories will have a lot to do with shutting down Faegon, Connington, and the Golden Company. Would explain why him and Dany's storylines feel especially ridiculous on the show.
Euron is cooler when he’s a pirate sephiroth
Using O'Dimns theme in a video regarding book Euron is a perfect choice.
Gaunter O Dimm theme fits perfect
Expecting a video about H.O.T.D before streaming 🙂
I have one written out already and I'm currently planning on posting it a week or two before it airs.
Great video. I was absolutely disappointed with his character on the show. Especially the lack of eye patch
They literally picked up a construction worker over a badass.
Book Euron: A terrifying, powerful and enigmatic dark lord.
Show Euron: A finger in tha bumm!
I love how you say Theon was a beloved character when I'm sure most people watching the show for the first time hated Theon with a passion in season 2 and 3 🤣
Euron is hands down my favorite character from the books. Im not surprised that Dumb and Dumber didnt even try to adapt him proper. His story is so damn cool and complicated that it was just impossible for someone like them to finish his story without finished book story
The crazy thing about Euron too which many book readers knows is just crazy and characters around him too react the same way. The black scale armor Euron has is not just any armor.
It is fully scaled and plated armor of Valyrian Steel. We know how rare and great valyrian steel is, as there is barely few swords of it, but a whole set armor, That is something you can only find in old valyria which many in the books say to stay out of as you will just find danger and die as no known man has ever survived.
But Euron was there and survived It's like what Euron's brother Aeron damphair said(the high priest of the drowned god)
"In all the seven kingdoms and beyond, no man has ever worn a full suit of valyrian steel!. Such things was only known 400 years ago, in the days before the doom of Valyria. Euron did not lie, he has been to Valyria... no wonder he turned mad"
Then Euron does something many others don't, he spits in eyes of gods and men, having no rules or no limits. Someone as cruel as Tywin, Bolton or Ramsay still was honour bound by laws, reputation and tradition. As for example killing your own was big taboo with being called kinslayer. Which is why Tywin and bolton never did it even though they wanted to.
Euron on the other hand has a crew on his ship the silince of his bastard sons with cut off tongues and also kills his own brothers like nothing with having killed already 3 in the books, even cuting out his own spouse tongue who is pregnant with his own child to hang infront the ship like among others like he did on his other ships in his huge fleet to perform some kind of a massive dark blood ritual at Old Town.
Also in the books it was a faceless man who was sent to kill Balon Greyjoy by Euron. So even that means he has connection with them and must have good stake or big price to trade as hiring a faceless man is not cheap but to buy to kill a king, that is even more expensive.
He has enslaved warlocks, a fire priest at his side. Seemed to have been to Valyria and even to Asshai in the shadow lands and survived both. A horn from valyria which magical user in valyria imbued to supposedly command dragons under owner's control. Found a dragon egg(but has not succeded in hatching it).
He was visited byt three eyed raven like bran was, with also having same dream as Bran. Meaning is a magical person like bran and supposedly can control animals/humans too. Also why his the red eye as symbol to his flag and other stuff. As the three eyed raven has a red eye.
Then it comes to big theory territory with him being the big and wanting bring about the long night and allow the white walkers(in books the others) to go over the wall. As Sam is in old town who supposedly has the horn of winter, which is said to be able to bring down the great wall itself.
The big theory is that there was an emperor called the bloodstone emperor who I quote "He was envious of his sister who he cast down and slew her... He practiced dark arts, dark forms of torture, and necromancy, enslaved his people, took a tiger-woman for a bride, feasted on human flesh, and casted down the "true" gods to workship a black stone instead"
It is stated the bloodstone emperor's cruelty, all dark art of magic and evil he did caused the first long night 8000 years before aegon targaryen.
Now Euron does the same as this is what he has done.
Kills brother for the throne, like bloodstone emperor with sister.
practice and use the dark arts, like the bloostone emperor.
tortures his borther Aeron and others in cruel dark ways.
enslaved the shield islanders.
Makes his warlocks eat eachother. Like bloodstone emperor who practice and did cannibalism
Spits in the eyes of gods
The emperor married a tiger woman. This can be like what Euron wants as he says he will marry what he calls the dragon woman, Daenarys.
Then much other stuff which is just crazy, with supposedly summong under sea creatures or a dark sea god, like lovecraft stuff as Cthulu.
So yeah Euron is like one of my favorite character in the games of thrones as he is one of the most terrifying and intresting characters. Which is why I think the what the show runners did to Euron is ONE of the biggest butchering of characters in television history.
Reccomend watching
Euron Greyjoy's apocalypse in the Game of Thrones books by Alt Shift X. As he goes deep into all details of what is going with Euron and some of the theories of what he wants to do or what will happen in next book from all hints that exist, remember people have had like 7 years now with no book to figure or not figure all this shit out with theories.
I just love how it says "someboby" at 2:19 lol
Euron felt like a highschool bully that is secretly desperate for validation
"The exaggerated swagger of A FiNgEr iN tHe BuM!" - D&D, probably.
Really sucks how bad Euron Greyjoy was, cause the actor Pilou Asbæk is soooo good. I think part of the reason is that Pilou isn't very fluid in english and you can clearly hear his speaking i very danish inflected. This probably makes acting a bit harder. His danish acting is amazing.
the worst thing is, that asbaek could have played a decent terrifying book euron, but the writers messed up.
where is 3:45 from?
I genuinely think that when they wrote Euron’s first scene, they actually intended to adapt his book counterpart. The scene on the bridge with Balon was actually well-done and I liked the eerie atmosphere of the storm.
Then when the Kingsmoot happened, I felt like they changed their minds while writing it, so Euron is now a clown. When I first saw that scene, a part of me still thought that maybe that was an act for the Ironborn. But Season 7 confirmed that he really was just a buffoon.
If you don't want to watch the video. Here is the summary: Just change everything about Euron.
make a how to fix stannis the mannis video
The biggest problem in the show was keeping Cersei around and not killing her off to be replaced by Young Griff. In the books if Cersei tried to proclaim herself queen like she did in the TV show then her reign would be measured in minutes. Young Griff is also absolutely essential for Daenery's plot to work correctly too since then to the wider Kingdom she appears as a genuine usurper who brought over an army of slaves slavers a foreign religion and likely Dothraki.
A really good example of someone who is sociopathically intimidating, yet still charismatic and funny is Lalo Salamanca for the Mike-storyline in Better Call Saul. He does a really good job of hiding his intention behind the lines of his sentences, yet still comes off as scary to the protagonists because he has an agenda that is clear to the audience, and a purpose that is clear to the other characters. Yet, they all have to play the game of smiling faces and shaking hands. Not that all of that would work perfectly for Euron in the setting of Game of Thrones, but is an example of how to make your villain Charming and able to have humor, without completely breaking their design.
I can understand why they didn't go with book Euron in the show. They obviously didn't have enough seasons or episodes left to go down that route, and wanted Cersei, Dany and the Night King to be the main villains in the final season. However I still think they could've made him a relevant and threatening secondary villain in other ways. They could have given him more of a conniving and clever side to his personality, as well as an extremely ruthless side. I would have liked to see him win Cersei over, then plot to murder her and take the throne, when he found out her child wasn't his. In theory, this was do-able, as she had no close other allies to protect her by the time of the final season. Theon could then have swooped in and unwittingly saved cersei's day, by killing Euron in his battle to get Yara back.
Once again, a significant part of the problem is that they wanted to exclude Aegon from the books as Daenerys's primary rival, and keep Cersei in that role instead. It must have seemed logical to them, in the same way that they wanted to keep a familiar character around in a new character's role like they did with Sansa and Jeyne Poole, but it breaks the narrative. There are just too many reasons why Aegon would be a credible threat to Daenerys where Cersei absolutely can't (absolutely no one other than Qyburn and Gregor should be following her after S6).
So, they wanted to give Cersei the Ironborn to provide her with more allies, even though the Ironborn really aren't a great set of allies to have unless you're talking about transporting troops across the sea. It might have been interesting had they decided to keep Euron's fascination with magic and his apocalyptic ambitions and make that work with Cersei somehow.
Thank you for what you do
Travis Fimmel (Ragnar from Vikings) would have been perfect. Also, compliments for putting the witcher soundtracks
Felt like Captain Boomerang had come crashing through from the DC universe straight into Westeros everytime this dude was on screen