What i find interesting is the difference in shot mechanics from the 80s/90s to today. Someone like Jordan was trained to get a lot of lift on his shot so he could shoot over people in the post and mid range. Today, no one jumps as high as Jordan did on his shots. That has to make it easier to shoot from distance, so instead of creating vertical space to shoot, we're now focused on creating horizontal space. It's fascinating to watch.
Also the fact that a higher arch increases the volume of space a shot is able to drop in to at the net. A tighter angle coming down, the wider the range for a shot to drop even if its a little less accurate.
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I want to see the NBA allow more to happen on defense to stop the modern offense. It’s getting a little lopsided, I don’t wanna see a league where 30 players are averaging 30 points a game or more, that would be too watered down.
You can see from two of the replies here how delusional young fans are and how effective propaganda is. To anyone who doesn't believe that it is entirely because of the rules that players are scoring so much now days, I'd say, go watch the NBA Finals from the 80's. In the Finals, it was common to see guys like Magic and Larry called for traveling for barely shuffling their pivot foot catching a pass. They called everything, by the book, and there was way more contact allowed. What the NBA has done to the league is awful. Once they saw how popular Jordan was, they decided they were going to manufacture him by changing the rules. The only reason this didn't happen in the 00's was because Shaq was their big star, so they favored him. But after that was Kobe, and then everything started changing even more.
Defense won't ever get as good bc of the constant rule changes. In the 90s it was way easier to defend - you were allowed to hand check for examples. Nowadays it seems as if the NBA officials wanna make the game as exciting as possible so of course they value offense over defense... I'm not even old but the 90s were the best era of basketball
i've always noticed that players today are like too good like a player that i don't even know his name suddenly will erupt hitting deep threes or tough shots. and then i said these players are really really good right now, that even with good defenses they're still scoring
yeah saying teams dont play defense when it's hard to play defense now because the skillset is at alltime high. in the 90's you cant even play zone defense, so they can iso all they want the mismatch
Offence has evolved because defense and refereeing has degressed, and that is not hate, It is factual. It is way easier to score a 3p when you can palm the ball, take 3 steps + the step back and the defender has the games down. Soon, It wont be basketball anymore
I knew that old heads were overrating 90s basketball when I saw Sabonis do a shamgod in the paint in OKC and nobody said anything because that's what we call a mid tier highlight nowadays. If Ewing or Ralph Samson did that when they played they'd still have legends about how good they are being hyped up to us.
To avoid the lack of intensity in defence, let's assume the intensity is 100% in the playoffs. How do these numbers develop when only playoffs games of the last 20 years are taken into account?
Well we all saw what a good, lockdown defense, by the Celtics, did to Kevin Durant's offense, in last year playoffs. Now imagine that sort of defense along some hand-checking to push the shooter out of his spot and making him work harder just to get the ball.
As a short guy that is obsessed with basketball I love the three point shot. It allows me to come to any pick up game and impact it without size. It's the great equalizer. There's nothing like the sound of a ball swooshing through the net. When you get into that zone where you feel like you can't miss it is sublime.
Oh god so basically 3 point spamming is your great equalizer. Just learn how to be an actual point guard. Style your game around a Tony Parker let's say. Bros penetration and finishing was unmatched despite his size
Changed is a better word. Everyone's basically a guard now, eliminating the need for varying skill sets that basically hinders players of different abilities to be great at what they do. Say Dennis Rodman will be a scrub in this day and age because he's a liability on offense.
I sometimes feel he need his own segment in NBA today at least once a week., The guy is doing his research well, pure facts and the flow of information and narrative is just epic.
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Every time I see a table like the one at the beginning, I imagine Jimmy saying at the end, “and then, here is Stephen Curry, and here is Lebron James.”
It’s funny how y’all don’t realize that this isn’t new… it’s been going on for decades because the refs are seeing things in REAL TIME and not through slow motion replays… players back then did it just as much as players today
Hi Jxmy. Last time, Luka made a statline of 60-20-10, a first in the NBA history. But what amazed me is the Mavs down by 9 in the last 35 sec of regulations but still managed to win the game. Can you make one in the near future?
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Definitely an evolution of the game due to the 3 pointer & like you said before the 2-pointer is also going up too. Don’t forget the rule changes, the amount of free throws shot, the lax calls on things like carry’s that you talk about in other videos. Comparing them to the past without context isn’t really fair but it definitely shows a crazy contrast of how the game has changed.
Great video. I hope that the NBA continues its recent trend of taking the rules around dribbling more seriously. As shooting has improved, getting even slightly better shots has become more valuable to teams. These shots have become available in significant part because the rules surrounding dribbles and travelling have relaxed since the 80s. This relaxed approach has also led to fewer steals and fewer turnovers in transition. But steals are fun to see! And they take a lot of skill to do! I want to see more of that style of play in the years ahead.
What makes me even more impressed than the numbers of today's shooters in the "shooters league" is that for a couple of years.. there are certain names that are constantly on the MVP race and they have other ways to impact the game. The last time a volume shooter won the MVP award was 5 seasons ago... Than Giannis and Jokic won each twice... and THAT shows how amazing these guys are...
Great video as usual. The fact that everyone takes 3s now no matter what position you play (considered a "bad" shot in the old NBA) helps the metric but the fact that you can basically "walk" to separate yourself from the defender is a metric no one talks about. Before Curry and Harding, that side step to give yourself space to shoot was a turnover.
As someone born in the 90's, there are soooo many current players that blow my mind with either their skills or shooting. When I was a child watching the Lakers and Spurs dominate I can only recall a handful of super stars now it seems like they come by the dozen.
Right. Can you imagine a prime Damian Lillard in the 90s? Not sure we would be talking about MJ that much. And that's just one player, one example. There's still Steph, KD, Kyrie, Booker etc. and all these young players that have been entering the league the last 5 years who have a ridiculous skillset at 19, 20, 21 years old
@@johnny1978 I can imagine the amount of turnovers they’d have from offensive violations. Unfortunately, the game has changed to benefit the offense because offense is what is entertaining. If you can control the ball however you want, with also stricter defensive regulations, you’re going to get a higher percentage. Not to put down the players today but that contributes to the reason shooters have the illusion of being twice as good
Part of this is because the rules have not only changed but in other cased are simply being called differently. The stepback three would be called a travel not too long ago. And it was easier to guard a drive to the basket meaning you could guard a shooter closer. Not to take anything away from todays shooters, because they are phenomenal, but the straight up stat comparison without acknowledging that offenses have it easier than ever does a disservice to the legends of the past. Many of them, if playing in today's league, would put up bigger numbers than they did in their era. Dead-ball era, 90's, whatever era you choose. Offense is has never been harder to defend because of how the rules have changed and how they are being called.
true that: if anything the league is punishing defense until it's just too ridiculous to call. What are now and ones were no calls a decade ago. Players are falling before the contact, hand-checking was banned, the stupid back-paddling just to get behind the line, ... these numbers are worthless and comparing them to the past is just plain stupid disrespecting the legacy of those who played the game how they were refereed. These millionaires and billionaires can take care of themselves, we don't need the same guys 10, 15 or 20 years in a row. Let them get a normal job after their sports career is over.
How about the free throw stats? Players today are just better shooters. Not necessarily better athletes/basketball players but in the realm of shooting players are just better today.
No mention of Mark Price is a crime. As a PG he took more 3s than Bird in the same era AND won more 3 point contests. Bird didn't take those shots in games that mattered. Feeding McHale and Parish while hunting mid range. Price is the unsung hero of the 3 ball
Would you consider doing a video where you address defense? I feel like a lot of these stats might be skewed by the kind of defense that is played (or is allowed to be played). It's not really a secret that every professional league wants more offense. I find it difficult to believe that some inventive coach couldn't come up with a lockdown scheme to shut down the shooter, but real physical defense isn't really seen (or permissible) anymore. It's hard to compare eras when the enforcement is different.
It’s an interesting idea but there is actually more defense allowed in todays NBA. Zone defense was illegal for a while so there was no help. Defense is also a lot easier when you have to guard just inside the three point line. Floor spacing today Vs then pre 2000s is night and day. A lot of people go back and watch d games an realize it hurts to watch compared to todays game
There are good to great defenders ( Giannis, Brook, Jrue, AD, Gobert, Bam, Butker, OG, Siakam, PJ, Vanderbilt, Bridges, Kawhi, PG, Dray, Looney, JJJ, Carter, Alvarado, Smart, Timelord, Horford, Okungwu) who impact the game and great defensive teams who put up incredible defense. Now the NBA executives do what they want ( laxist rules, useless techs, stupid calls), this don't take away from the players nowadays having to be more versatile than ever, being able to defend a larger part of the court (not just the paint and close middy), and being more skilled than ever. Also in terms of coaching, defense has never been that complex, we're to the point where I think tactically the NBA compete more ,and more with college and Euroleague, and God knows how far the NBA was compared to both some years ago
@@gbarberis7402I was always a defensive minded player whenever I played. But what’s happening today is damn near impossible to guard. Moves that aren’t travels but work like travels, elite dribbling skills, everyone is stronger, etc. defense has evolved, but offense has evolved 100xs more in the past ten years
Imagine the numbers Larry Bird would have put up if he was using the same basketball today's NBA players get to use. Deeper grooves and a tackier surface has made a HUGE difference with shooting percentage over the last few years.
So basically when everyone can shoot the mvp award is up for grabs literally. When everyone can shoot their offensive bag gets deeper and they become one of the best players in the league. For eg. Lauri Markkanen is now a 23 PPG player just because of his shooting ability.
If he can continue his hotstreak and help Utah become a top 3 seed he can be a legitimate MVP candidate. It's crazy what one aspect of your game can do to your overall basketball ability
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While players do shoot better today, defense is still a factor. Like what Luka said, "it's easier to score in the NBA". Today is an offensive driven league. You cant touch offensive players nowadays, not to mention that they can get away with a lot of travels that confuses or getting defenders and defensive plays out of their rhythm.
There's a lot of grey area here so let's break it down 1. Shooters do get away with more travels and carrying than ever before 2. Shooters just plain and simple are better than they were 10+ years ago Due to these factors it can APPEAR that no one plays defense anymore but that couldn't be further from the truth. It is harder now to be an elite defender than ever before in the league. The range you have to guard, the versatility needed, the restraint you need etc. You buy on a fake, they're gone. You give them a step too much space, buckets. You step too close, foul called. Offense will ALWAYS outpace defense. You can't just have your defensive lockdown centers anymore (look at how we clown on Rudy) you don't have your Gary Payton's swatting the ball loose because everyone has a tighter handle now and are quick enough to punish you for a bad reach. Defense looks better in retrospect for older eras because of how inferior their offense was. People say "put him in the 90s and he's a bum" nah put Derozan in the 90's dude is cooking the league for 30+ppg with elite clamps. James Harden is averaging 50 unironically. Facts are 90's players weren't guarding you 35 feet out. Dame, Curry, Harden etc would all be seen as unguardable in the 90's because they just wouldn't know how to adjust to a guy casually pulling up 2 feet beyond half court. They'd be wizards to them "oh but they'll just start guarding up on them" yeah and over commit leaving an open pass to a cutter, get their ankles broken, or leave a man wide open for a double team attempt. Offense in the NBA is elite and it's come to the point where praying the opponent misses IS a valid defense because you can play it perfectly but dudes today are just so good, it doesn't matter. Quote Paul George "that's a bad shot" there's no such thing if it goes in. Luka said its easier to score in the NBA not because of the defense but because of everything he can do to get the shot he wants and when everyone is at least a competent shot maker, defenses can't leave ANYONE open.
@@WhydTheyChangeOurNames Its actually much more simpler than that. The European court is smaller and there is no 3 in the key. So anyone can crowd the paint for as long as they please. With the court being smaller, it isn't easy to drive past defenders like it is in the NBA. Also, the refs let them play a bit more physically.
@Crazyhead432 thank you for reading. I know it was a long one I just hate the narrative that defense isn't played anymore when we do see it. Look at some of Curry's shots and tell me how the defender is supposed to do better? They were on his hip with him every step and got their hand in front of the ball or his face, dude just makes the shot and that how shooters are nowadays.
2 feet closer 3 point line can also mean shorter distance for the defender to contest shots, making it also harder to make space for you to take shots.
I was a professional player in the Italian Basketball League until the early 2010s. I could see this change year after year. I used to play point guard, and over the years the number of shots I could take vertically plummeted. This was because power guards were coming out more and more to take shots and traditional guards were starting to shoot from midcourt. Honestly, I don't really like this trend but it goes without saying, there is little I can do about it.
Damn. Curry changed the game. It’s insane. I mean i’m still a kid, it is really all i’ve known, but just how insane it is is recognizable by people who weren’t even alive for the game of basketball when he wasn’t in it. Amazing video.
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Great analysis, but I want to offer a counterpoint. First of all I do agree with your premise that the league has become more skilled on average over time. I see reserves showing skills that I believe would earn them a starting spot 30 years ago. That said, there are factors which contribute to the improved shooting that have nothing to do with improved skill. Analytics has improved shot selection. Rules changes have facilitated more efficient offense. Before 1994, a foul on a 3pt attempt resulted in 2 free throws. The defense was incentivized to defend the 3 aggressively. In addition, for the past few years, shooters must have a clear landing spot or it’s a flagrant foul penalty 1. You can’t crowd a shooter like the old days. You can’t hand check since 2004. As a result, shooters get much more space than they used to. Don’t get me wrong, I think the science of shooting has improved and NBA players are more skilled on average today, but there are also other factors that have improved scoring. Have average 3pt shootout scores also increased? Would Larry Bird’s competition winning scores fall short today?
Absolutely ! Great take ! I have the exact same argument...the fact that it's easier to score, makes it easier for shooters to succeed...Spacing is also in favor of shooters (which wasn't the case in the 90s) ...so it evolved that way, and in a shooters league, the average shooting skill is better, but I'm wondering how the 90s players would have fared if they'd benefitted from the same advantages of today's league !
@@DraGanix33def because of the Kawhi Leonard/Zara Pachulia incident. Feels like it’s been called more ever since that incident because it happened in a pivotal WCF game.
I think another possible reason is because of non-game factors, such as the sport being more popular than before and more lucrative than before, prompting more kids to invest their time into the sport, training and becoming better from a younger age. Maybe more facilities are available for playing the game too. Better equipment, better supplements?
Good point, but at the other hand - teams now know how to defend a 3pt line. They're ready for it. Yet somehow it still works well. If you guard too close - they will go closer to the basket and the other way around. It's a skill of pure, efficient shooting, that makes the defense look so bad. Jrue Holiday, one of the best perimeter defenders in the league, sometimes can't catch up with his man because he can't be both on the perimeter and in the paint. And there's a lot of other good defenders out there. But that never stops players from going for a shot. Zone defense is one of a factors that inside scoring and mid-range scoring went down, and that's why the league was completely broken in the time it was added. But when more and more shooters realized it's their time - the efficiency of zone defense and defensive schemes began to erase. Now you need to combine zone with the regular defense to even have a chance of stopping those players. But it'll only work if there's at least 1 guy who can't shoot. It's a hard time for defense, and it's not just because of the rule changes
what im interested in is finding a way to break down whether shooting a 3 or a mid range is a “tougher” shot considering that mid ranges are more contested, and a lot of threes are less contested but further from the basket, i think it would be a really interesting thing to look into. i’ll forever say layups are the toughest shot in basketball, especially in post ups. and i think it’s a shame that basketball has trended towards the three point line bc watching 3 heavy teams is just watching boring basketball to me. watching a guy chuck up a 3 and it going in doesn’t excite me. steph in 2015-17 was fascinating bc we hadn’t really seen anything like it before. but nowadays it’s just dragging the excitement of the game down imo.
The only way defense could catch up to this offensive era is with rule changes. How the refs call games currently is just not gonna work. They have to crack down on flopping, make charges a less prevalent call, actually call travels, etc. If that starts happening, offenses would slow down bc they would actually have to start respecting the defensive coverage instead of walking 8 steps, slapping the defender with their arm while putting up a shot, and somehow get an and 1 call.
@@jammer9941 still not nearly as much as necessary. Players travel like 1 out of every 3-5 plays, and u really only see it get called a couple times a game. Not nearly enough
The rule changes really have a huge impact. Imagine Kyrie or Durant being hand-checked by Jrue. Kyrie can dribble all he wants with bigger, stronger defenders hand-checking him.
I have watched NBA archived it and the best era was 1980's-2000's the play was strategic and intense shots were earned. Nowadays with such light defense shot percentages are higher but I watch it. It just not as fun as those better defense days.
You did address it briefly, but I was definitely thinking that worse defense/foul calls being easier to get might be an additional factor for the scoring surge.
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If steph curry’s career was in the 60s and he had the same exact skill set, would it effect the game differently? and how would it have happened in different eras?
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Here's how the league changed. Less aggressive defence due to more aggressive refereeing. The step back isn't travelling. A 4-step dunk isn't travelling. Players have only slightly gotten better at shooting because there is less focus on recruiting big physical brutes like Shaq and more of a focus on player shooting thanks to Steph etc. Thanks for the videos Jxmy. Always a great job.
Jordan and Bird would dominate this era even more than their own 😅 Those guys were ridiculous scorers being under double and triple team coverage. Imagine their game with spacing and no handchecking.
So all this data and that's your take away smh. There was no zone defense back then. Plus half the league in the 80s were alcoholics and cokeheads, nothing compared to the athletes we have today. Players now are just simply more skilled and the stats don't lie so don't bring your nostalgia here.
@@MrTeeMiti more skilled my ass the players back then didn't showcase their skills back then why? BECAUSE IT WASN'T REQUIRED OF THEM. THEY WERE PLAYING A ROLE WHICH MEANS THEY ARE DOING STUFF NEEDED TO HELP THE TEAM. The Nba is a skill league now with a freelance game, which means players can show their natural game more, back then, you had the 3 and d player, the defender, the pass first guard, certain player roles that players stuck to because the team needed that of them.
@@MrTeeMiti Just know its true. The former nba players didn't showcase their skill because it wasn't required of them. They had skill, just wasn't needed because they had stars doing the heavy lifting.
Today's players have the best long-range shots ever. However, if they played in other eras (with different rules) they would not be able to make those shots. You simply cannot play right up on a player like you used to.
I simply believe this is false. If you’re good in one era you can be good in another. You don’t think Currys gonna get open? He gets open because the amount of screens set for him, now imagine curry in the 90s with a strong ass big men who was setting screens. Literally impossible to guard. These players are actually statistically playing better defenders too, because if you have to play rough to “play defense” dosent that mean your defense is technically worse? Luka will still get open, curry, Dame, KD, Lebron ( he played in a year of hand checking and averaged 19 ppg i believe it was his first season too). These players will get open as the step back wasn’t even a move you’re anticipate.
@@BigG627 I think you misunderstood my post. I'm not saying people were more or less talented in other eras, just that the game was different. You cannot look at shooting percentages today and say they are better shooters because the form had to be different. Look at Bird or Jordan in these clips- they had to go vertical back then because players were able to play closer. Now, players are able to use a more accurate style because defenders have to play off. Neither style is better than the other, just different. Basically, 90's players were built for 90's style, today's player are built for today's style.
@@BigG627 Curry would be called for traveling 10 times per game and his set shots would get thrown into the 3rd row. He'd have to make MAJOR adjustments.
The league doesn't want physical defense, they want scoring. It would be nice to have a video describing the rule changes and enforcement changes that also help scoring. Several of the clips had the happy extra step. Jxmy mentioned the Pacers, only to dunk on them. Ouch. p.s. Video could also be called: NBA defense is the worse in history (by these rules anyway)
I think that has to due with people wanting a more entertaining game. The more flashy move, dunks and shooting probably brings in a ton more money then ever before.
@@LuciferWrld999 Yes, and players don't get max contracts for great defense. They get max contracts for scoring, so that is what they focus on. So many of the scoring "highlights" are a guy taking a shot with no one around them.
@@markpagtama7954 Keep in mind, my memory is hampered by age. I remember cheering for defense stops. I remember if a team had a 20 point lead, they were going to win the game. Now a days, a 20 point lead means nothing. (yes I am an old fart)
I think the increased accuracy in 3 pointers is probably also because double stepbacks are now legal and get you tons of space between your defender for an open shot
Totally agree. The gather or zero step allows the shooter to square up both feet and enough time to square their body too. Eliminate the zero step and put hand checking back in the game and we would quickly see the meta change. We can see this even in the highlights of this video. MJ's shots were fadeaways, plant and pump fakes, or plant and stepping around the defender. The highlights of the modern shooters are 0-stepping and literally with a pause to square up and then shoot. It's like comparing jump shots to set shots. While it does not affect the shooting percentage, I also wonder what the longer rebounds are doing to the defense. it's like this spread game and rule combination is creating a positive feedback loop on incentivizing long shots. There's no value in guarding the paint and when there's no physicality permitted then I don't know what a defense can actually do.
@@SimulatedEarthboundMisfit Very good point about Jordan's shots being fade aways and in general tougher shots. Another thing you'll notice about today's league is every buzzer beater or game winner attempt is a stepback because it's the easiest kind of shot to make
@@javigar133 Good point, there's a lot of pushing off today. But if the defense so much as lays a pinkie on the jersey of the offense, they get two free throws
@@SimulatedEarthboundMisfit great point! I just wish all these stats were converted to their era and analyse all different factors influencing on the rise in shooting percentage rather than claiming players are more skilled, which is laughable
it is not the defense that makes it a shooters league, they became more volume and efficient shooters. Did you watch those games on 80's and 90's, most of the time they were open on the midrange and yet they cannot hit it and you gonna say it was because of the defense of that era, i don't think so. As explained on this video those who can shoot on that era became specialist only, they were spot up shooters, they were not part of the regular play unlike now.
Towards the end when you spoke on kd and the warriors, I couldn’t help but hear Charles Barkley saying “jump shooting teams don’t win championships”😂 it’s a new era chuck and we been in it😂💯
Can't dispute the skill level in today's NBA. Just as indisputable is that the product is garbage compared to the 90's. The league is tainted by referees and terrible rules, there is no overcoming this.
I love some of the 90’s and 2000’s stars and many would still be great today but go back and watch the games…. Bad spacing, contested long 2’s, bad switching, and big men just camping in the paint.
They’d be great but 40 is a stretch. Maybe MJ in a single season under optimal circumstances like a very bad roster where he’s taking all the shots lol but even that’s very unlikely. They’d probably average around what they did or maybe less. The early 80’s was as faster than any game today . Todays PaCe is closer to the late 80’s and early 90’s.
@@jonjuko8859 🤭Should I pull up the stats of Giannis and Zion outside the restricted area ? These guys are the definition of limited and one is averaging 32.1 ppg on 59% TS while the other is averaging 26 ppg on 65.2% TS . MJ’s athleticism is on par with Zion/Giannis and his finishing %’s during his prime are on par with Zion’s. Of course all these guys blow Bird out the water when it comes to athleticism but he’s clearly the best shooter out of these guys followed by MJ being 2nd. Drexler is interesting because even though he still could be a good all around player I’m not sure how his scoring would translate.
The days of boring iso plays followed by one dunk after another are over. The shooting, from the three, mid-range, whatever…. Catch and shoot, off the dribble, step-back, you name it… incredibly good.
Another great video! Maybe we should take into account that in the last 20 years some rulles have become much more fluid like: - Traveling (too many) - Dribbling (all strange ways) - Fouls (too many in defence, too less in offence) In the past and still in Europe referees are way more strict about them. The Nba decided that the Show is more important than the fight facilitating the offence. And indeed it has become so together with the insane improvement in shooting.
Coaches: "3s are a low percentage shot, high risk, bad shot. Shoot more than 2 and I will bench you." "Live by the 3. Die by the 3." "You can win a few games with 3pt shooting, but definitely not championships." Steph Curry: "But I just won 5 championships." Coaches : "...Ok, I've assigned a personal shooting coach for each of you. You will practice 3s until your fingertips bleed!"
He did also play 53 minutes and took 40+ shots and 20+ free throws. Dmitch for comparison only played 43 minutes shot only 33 shots and had only 13 free throws while scoring only 6 less
@@isakmaaan0326 doesn’t take anything away from MJ though. He has zero legit teammates at that time against the best team in the east which makes it more impressive.
How do you just blow past and not mention the ridiculousness of Curry's attempts and % where he has the highest % with more than 4 attempts per game more than the next highest 😂 best shooter of all time
What i find interesting is the difference in shot mechanics from the 80s/90s to today. Someone like Jordan was trained to get a lot of lift on his shot so he could shoot over people in the post and mid range. Today, no one jumps as high as Jordan did on his shots. That has to make it easier to shoot from distance, so instead of creating vertical space to shoot, we're now focused on creating horizontal space. It's fascinating to watch.
Defense is a factor. You cant touch an offensive player nowadays
Still some players can shoot mid range and 3s has good Larry bird was getting left open like he was Russ from the 3 sometimes 😂😂😂
@@jakeco2431 stfu the 90s too don't ever get fooled by the hand check thing mj has more committed fouls than lebron 😂😂😂
Nice eye 👌🏽
Also the fact that a higher arch increases the volume of space a shot is able to drop in to at the net. A tighter angle coming down, the wider the range for a shot to drop even if its a little less accurate.
I’ve been watching this man since I was 13. Since he was playing 1v1 with his girlfriend type, and he was talking about the best high school teams. This man keeps getting better at this RUclips game every day and he deserves all the success he gets. Much love Jimmy, your videos have gotten so good I can’t even miss one without feeling like I missed the premiere of a new episode to my favorite show😭😭
so well put
Ive been watching since i was 6
Been watching since trap sax
been watching since my last lifetime 🤞🏽🤞🏽
How old are yall😆
I want to see the NBA allow more to happen on defense to stop the modern offense. It’s getting a little lopsided, I don’t wanna see a league where 30 players are averaging 30 points a game or more, that would be too watered down.
I think it might be a case if offense developing faster than defense. Although idk how defenders can stop it. especially with this sorry refs
There is no defense for it ...
Unfortunately I think people like you and I are in the minority
You can see from two of the replies here how delusional young fans are and how effective propaganda is. To anyone who doesn't believe that it is entirely because of the rules that players are scoring so much now days, I'd say, go watch the NBA Finals from the 80's. In the Finals, it was common to see guys like Magic and Larry called for traveling for barely shuffling their pivot foot catching a pass. They called everything, by the book, and there was way more contact allowed. What the NBA has done to the league is awful. Once they saw how popular Jordan was, they decided they were going to manufacture him by changing the rules. The only reason this didn't happen in the 00's was because Shaq was their big star, so they favored him. But after that was Kobe, and then everything started changing even more.
That and they need to start calling travels, carries, etc more
Honestly I really would like to see the next generation getting as good on defense as on shooting. That would be the ultimate league
Defense didn’t get worse, it just hasn’t caught up to todays offense yet
@@iwhite111 besttake I've heard honest to god
too many foul calls going the offense way
Defense won't ever get as good. These offensive schemes are literally so beautiful in today's game. It's a blessing to be alive to see it
Defense won't ever get as good bc of the constant rule changes. In the 90s it was way easier to defend - you were allowed to hand check for examples. Nowadays it seems as if the NBA officials wanna make the game as exciting as possible so of course they value offense over defense... I'm not even old but the 90s were the best era of basketball
Absolutely disgusting to see how people try to discredit this generation. Thanks jimmy for this upload. Goes to show how much the league has evolved.
i've always noticed that players today are like too good like a player that i don't even know his name suddenly will erupt hitting deep threes or tough shots. and then i said these players are really really good right now, that even with good defenses they're still scoring
@@gokusupersaiyan3inreallife937 ikr
yeah saying teams dont play defense when it's hard to play defense now because the skillset is at alltime high. in the 90's you cant even play zone defense, so they can iso all they want the mismatch
Offence has evolved because defense and refereeing has degressed, and that is not hate, It is factual. It is way easier to score a 3p when you can palm the ball, take 3 steps + the step back and the defender has the games down. Soon, It wont be basketball anymore
I knew that old heads were overrating 90s basketball when I saw Sabonis do a shamgod in the paint in OKC and nobody said anything because that's what we call a mid tier highlight nowadays. If Ewing or Ralph Samson did that when they played they'd still have legends about how good they are being hyped up to us.
To avoid the lack of intensity in defence, let's assume the intensity is 100% in the playoffs. How do these numbers develop when only playoffs games of the last 20 years are taken into account?
yup.. truly missed a playoff comparison.
This ^^ seconded
@@freebird152 didn't fit Jimmy's narrative so he left it out.
James Harden is a prime example
Well we all saw what a good, lockdown defense, by the Celtics, did to Kevin Durant's offense, in last year playoffs. Now imagine that sort of defense along some hand-checking to push the shooter out of his spot and making him work harder just to get the ball.
The midrange comes back into the game in the playoffs
As a short guy that is obsessed with basketball I love the three point shot. It allows me to come to any pick up game and impact it without size. It's the great equalizer. There's nothing like the sound of a ball swooshing through the net. When you get into that zone where you feel like you can't miss it is sublime.
As a big dude I wish I could shoot
@@dreadlord1265 Well you can, u just have to put the work in. The last game of Valenciunas was scary, dude was on fire and helped on defense too.
Oh god so basically 3 point spamming is your great equalizer. Just learn how to be an actual point guard. Style your game around a Tony Parker let's say. Bros penetration and finishing was unmatched despite his size
i mean that's basically what the league is rn anyway...
until everyone in the nba will be 6’7 and an elite 3 point shooter
Steph raised the game for all of us!! A legend in his own right!!
yay so exciting shooting 3s the entire game
“raised” well thats one way to look at it
Changed is a better word. Everyone's basically a guard now, eliminating the need for varying skill sets that basically hinders players of different abilities to be great at what they do. Say Dennis Rodman will be a scrub in this day and age because he's a liability on offense.
@@Primus_Phallus u have Draymond/Simmons for that
@@wrongplacerighttimeprobably why the warriors are the most popular team
Man puts it all together so well. I feel like I’m watching an ESPN segment
This guy is way better than espn
@@nrcarl00 if espn is smart, they would offer jimmy multi-million $$$ contract before fox sports does.
@@angelg2638 I think he should ask for a max since he’s a free agent anyways.
ESPN is terrible compared to this (as is most legacy media). TV stopped being the bench mark in the mid to late 2010s.
Never has Espn matched this level of analysis. It will kill all the mainstream shallow debates.
I love it when your stats point out how great MJ really was.
that never happened...
bro...
@@wkwkkw7830 @0:58
@@therealking6202 did you see him show that with todays players involved??? He wasn’t at the top
How scuffed are your knees?
we do not deserve jxmyhighroller man. this man’s videos are too good !
. nod it’s great- th man cares ! -
Lol its average research at best. It probably takes more skill to edit the videos with the different highlights and graphs
I sometimes feel he need his own segment in NBA today at least once a week., The guy is doing his research well, pure facts and the flow of information and narrative is just epic.
@@caldwell2253 Average research? Thats not even true lol
@@mistameff3528 n u 2 months too late
These videos that jimmy makes are so inspiring because you cannot deny that this is what he was meant to do with his life. Absolutely no one does it like him and it’s amazing to watch
Every time I see a table like the one at the beginning, I imagine Jimmy saying at the end, “and then, here is Stephen Curry, and here is Lebron James.”
I wanna see them call more travels and see how that changes some of these players offenses.
They should also call more carrys as well.
And offensive fouls. And flopping should be a technical.
It’s funny how y’all don’t realize that this isn’t new… it’s been going on for decades because the refs are seeing things in REAL TIME and not through slow motion replays… players back then did it just as much as players today
@@louietae9932 it’s cool when Larry bird uses a step back and a “zero” step, but when today’s players do it, they don’t like it lol
They are though this season
Hi Jxmy. Last time, Luka made a statline of 60-20-10, a first in the NBA history. But what amazed me is the Mavs down by 9 in the last 35 sec of regulations but still managed to win the game. Can you make one in the near future?
You wish just came true. 🎉
@@shubhamjain8389 I actually didnt expect that my wish got true sooner 🤣
When we needed jimmy the most he delivered 🙏🙏🙏
It's a Christmas miracle.
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You are in a league of your own with these NBA analysis videos. The charts, graphs, the math.. you’re my favorite NBA RUclipsr by far. Please don’t ever stop doing this 🔥
completely agree, and on top of that his presentation is top tier too
Hope "we" all enjoyed, and as always, until next time ! 👍
jimmy needs his own show on espn
Mike korzemba back in the day hit different
@@levib5168he still hits diff today, I hope he does more story vids on players journey to the league and those “what if” vids
Definitely an evolution of the game due to the 3 pointer & like you said before the 2-pointer is also going up too.
Don’t forget the rule changes, the amount of free throws shot, the lax calls on things like carry’s that you talk about in other videos.
Comparing them to the past without context isn’t really fair but it definitely shows a crazy contrast of how the game has changed.
Great video. I hope that the NBA continues its recent trend of taking the rules around dribbling more seriously. As shooting has improved, getting even slightly better shots has become more valuable to teams. These shots have become available in significant part because the rules surrounding dribbles and travelling have relaxed since the 80s. This relaxed approach has also led to fewer steals and fewer turnovers in transition. But steals are fun to see! And they take a lot of skill to do! I want to see more of that style of play in the years ahead.
best youtuber of 2022, no competition. Easily some of the highest quality content on the internet. thanks jimmy for so many awesome videos!
Best Sport/Basketball RUclipsr*
@@John-gz5mz this isn't thinking basketball?
What makes me even more impressed than the numbers of today's shooters in the "shooters league" is that for a couple of years.. there are certain names that are constantly on the MVP race and they have other ways to impact the game. The last time a volume shooter won the MVP award was 5 seasons ago... Than Giannis and Jokic won each twice... and THAT shows how amazing these guys are...
When the world needed him most, he pulled through 😌
Jimmy couldn’t make a bad video if he tried. Love you Jimmy, keep up the good work!
I hope he doesn’t take your challenge! 😉
Great video as usual. The fact that everyone takes 3s now no matter what position you play (considered a "bad" shot in the old NBA) helps the metric but the fact that you can basically "walk" to separate yourself from the defender is a metric no one talks about. Before Curry and Harding, that side step to give yourself space to shoot was a turnover.
As someone born in the 90's, there are soooo many current players that blow my mind with either their skills or shooting. When I was a child watching the Lakers and Spurs dominate I can only recall a handful of super stars now it seems like they come by the dozen.
Right. Can you imagine a prime Damian Lillard in the 90s? Not sure we would be talking about MJ that much. And that's just one player, one example. There's still Steph, KD, Kyrie, Booker etc. and all these young players that have been entering the league the last 5 years who have a ridiculous skillset at 19, 20, 21 years old
While talent has certainly increased, the rules and what is allowed have undeniably become incredibly slanted towards the offensive players nowadays.
@@johnny1978 I can imagine the amount of turnovers they’d have from offensive violations. Unfortunately, the game has changed to benefit the offense because offense is what is entertaining. If you can control the ball however you want, with also stricter defensive regulations, you’re going to get a higher percentage. Not to put down the players today but that contributes to the reason shooters have the illusion of being twice as good
@@johnny1978 watch "Jordan's historic Bulls mixtape" and "rare voyager", dude was just different bruh, lmk what you think of those two videos
The gane today is offensively oriented, in the 90's it was very defensive minded, very different game
He always come in clutch when I’m eating 😂
8:10 Demar Deroxan is an underrated feee throw shooter
Part of this is because the rules have not only changed but in other cased are simply being called differently. The stepback three would be called a travel not too long ago. And it was easier to guard a drive to the basket meaning you could guard a shooter closer. Not to take anything away from todays shooters, because they are phenomenal, but the straight up stat comparison without acknowledging that offenses have it easier than ever does a disservice to the legends of the past. Many of them, if playing in today's league, would put up bigger numbers than they did in their era. Dead-ball era, 90's, whatever era you choose. Offense is has never been harder to defend because of how the rules have changed and how they are being called.
true that: if anything the league is punishing defense until it's just too ridiculous to call. What are now and ones were no calls a decade ago. Players are falling before the contact, hand-checking was banned, the stupid back-paddling just to get behind the line, ... these numbers are worthless and comparing them to the past is just plain stupid disrespecting the legacy of those who played the game how they were refereed. These millionaires and billionaires can take care of themselves, we don't need the same guys 10, 15 or 20 years in a row. Let them get a normal job after their sports career is over.
How about the free throw stats? Players today are just better shooters. Not necessarily better athletes/basketball players but in the realm of shooting players are just better today.
Jimmy has been leaving this out on the last few videos. He’s becoming biased. I’m losing respect with each biased video he drops.
@@Top_o_da_foodDChainnah he did call this out. I forgot which vid but I think it was in his 5 most recent
@@stevennguyen6637 yeah and i remember that he has said this point in older videos as well
No mention of Mark Price is a crime. As a PG he took more 3s than Bird in the same era AND won more 3 point contests. Bird didn't take those shots in games that mattered. Feeding McHale and Parish while hunting mid range. Price is the unsung hero of the 3 ball
Bruh, Bird had a NASTY step back
The one move, which he fooled the defender by waving the ball over their head and swished it😱😱
He was breaking ankles and egos
Would you consider doing a video where you address defense? I feel like a lot of these stats might be skewed by the kind of defense that is played (or is allowed to be played). It's not really a secret that every professional league wants more offense. I find it difficult to believe that some inventive coach couldn't come up with a lockdown scheme to shut down the shooter, but real physical defense isn't really seen (or permissible) anymore. It's hard to compare eras when the enforcement is different.
It’s an interesting idea but there is actually more defense allowed in todays NBA. Zone defense was illegal for a while so there was no help. Defense is also a lot easier when you have to guard just inside the three point line. Floor spacing today Vs then pre 2000s is night and day. A lot of people go back and watch d games an realize it hurts to watch compared to todays game
There are good to great defenders ( Giannis, Brook, Jrue, AD, Gobert, Bam, Butker, OG, Siakam, PJ, Vanderbilt, Bridges, Kawhi, PG, Dray, Looney, JJJ, Carter, Alvarado, Smart, Timelord, Horford, Okungwu) who impact the game and great defensive teams who put up incredible defense.
Now the NBA executives do what they want ( laxist rules, useless techs, stupid calls), this don't take away from the players nowadays having to be more versatile than ever, being able to defend a larger part of the court (not just the paint and close middy), and being more skilled than ever.
Also in terms of coaching, defense has never been that complex, we're to the point where I think tactically the NBA compete more ,and more with college and Euroleague, and God knows how far the NBA was compared to both some years ago
@@andyblair3901 there is lack of effort and team defence in the nba today
@@gbarberis7402I was always a defensive minded player whenever I played. But what’s happening today is damn near impossible to guard. Moves that aren’t travels but work like travels, elite dribbling skills, everyone is stronger, etc. defense has evolved, but offense has evolved 100xs more in the past ten years
@@Crazyhead432 that's why team defence and philosophy is much more important
Imagine the numbers Larry Bird would have put up if he was using the same basketball today's NBA players get to use. Deeper grooves and a tackier surface has made a HUGE difference with shooting percentage over the last few years.
And after waiting three weeks for a new vid I’m watching this one after 30 seconds of it being out 🙏🏽
So basically when everyone can shoot the mvp award is up for grabs literally. When everyone can shoot their offensive bag gets deeper and they become one of the best players in the league. For eg. Lauri Markkanen is now a 23 PPG player just because of his shooting ability.
If he can continue his hotstreak and help Utah become a top 3 seed he can be a legitimate MVP candidate. It's crazy what one aspect of your game can do to your overall basketball ability
I don’t understand how this channel doesn’t have 10 billion subscribers. The amount of editing in every video and information he puts in these videos are flawless and amazing!
we need a video about the ref situation in the nba
There is one in thinking basketball
When I saw the notification I stopped what I was doing to watch. I love you jimmy ❤️❤️
Jxmy really does give us a documentary of history in a way that nobody else can compete with. This man is making basketball history a full on college course, not just a minor fascination. There's so much to study and learn about NBA history and this man does his research.
I’d like to see defenders allowed to play more aggressively to balance out the overwhelming offense
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I don't think Jimmy has ever let us down with a video.
Jimmy talking about the evolution of shooting for the 10th time
While players do shoot better today, defense is still a factor. Like what Luka said, "it's easier to score in the NBA". Today is an offensive driven league. You cant touch offensive players nowadays, not to mention that they can get away with a lot of travels that confuses or getting defenders and defensive plays out of their rhythm.
There's a lot of grey area here so let's break it down
1. Shooters do get away with more travels and carrying than ever before
2. Shooters just plain and simple are better than they were 10+ years ago
Due to these factors it can APPEAR that no one plays defense anymore but that couldn't be further from the truth. It is harder now to be an elite defender than ever before in the league. The range you have to guard, the versatility needed, the restraint you need etc. You buy on a fake, they're gone. You give them a step too much space, buckets. You step too close, foul called. Offense will ALWAYS outpace defense. You can't just have your defensive lockdown centers anymore (look at how we clown on Rudy) you don't have your Gary Payton's swatting the ball loose because everyone has a tighter handle now and are quick enough to punish you for a bad reach. Defense looks better in retrospect for older eras because of how inferior their offense was. People say "put him in the 90s and he's a bum" nah put Derozan in the 90's dude is cooking the league for 30+ppg with elite clamps. James Harden is averaging 50 unironically. Facts are 90's players weren't guarding you 35 feet out. Dame, Curry, Harden etc would all be seen as unguardable in the 90's because they just wouldn't know how to adjust to a guy casually pulling up 2 feet beyond half court. They'd be wizards to them "oh but they'll just start guarding up on them" yeah and over commit leaving an open pass to a cutter, get their ankles broken, or leave a man wide open for a double team attempt. Offense in the NBA is elite and it's come to the point where praying the opponent misses IS a valid defense because you can play it perfectly but dudes today are just so good, it doesn't matter. Quote Paul George "that's a bad shot" there's no such thing if it goes in.
Luka said its easier to score in the NBA not because of the defense but because of everything he can do to get the shot he wants and when everyone is at least a competent shot maker, defenses can't leave ANYONE open.
@@WhydTheyChangeOurNames Its actually much more simpler than that. The European court is smaller and there is no 3 in the key. So anyone can crowd the paint for as long as they please. With the court being smaller, it isn't easy to drive past defenders like it is in the NBA. Also, the refs let them play a bit more physically.
@@WhydTheyChangeOurNamescouldn’t have said it better
@Crazyhead432 thank you for reading. I know it was a long one I just hate the narrative that defense isn't played anymore when we do see it. Look at some of Curry's shots and tell me how the defender is supposed to do better? They were on his hip with him every step and got their hand in front of the ball or his face, dude just makes the shot and that how shooters are nowadays.
and not to mention they carry every other dribble
2 feet closer 3 point line can also mean shorter distance for the defender to contest shots, making it also harder to make space for you to take shots.
And no multiple stepbacks like nowadays.
I was a professional player in the Italian Basketball League until the early 2010s. I could see this change year after year. I used to play point guard, and over the years the number of shots I could take vertically plummeted. This was because power guards were coming out more and more to take shots and traditional guards were starting to shoot from midcourt. Honestly, I don't really like this trend but it goes without saying, there is little I can do about it.
This is the earliest I’ve ever clocked in a video
Same
I always feel like I'm watching a Christopher Nolan movie by the end of your videos.
tf?
the music towards the end of the video kinda sounds like the music from the dark knight trilogy, and it fits perfect with a jimmy video
@@alexmasraum7596 So a hans zimmer composition then :DD
Daaaaaaaamn u nailed it!!!
Why are your videos so great? Their all so well written I swear. Persuasive and intelligent good job man
Damn! When passion and talent collide you end up with pure gold content like this!!❤bravo my friend👏
Damn. Curry changed the game. It’s insane. I mean i’m still a kid, it is really all i’ve known, but just how insane it is is recognizable by people who weren’t even alive for the game of basketball when he wasn’t in it. Amazing video.
OML i love your videos
it gives me goosebumps when you start talking
i don't have people to talk about basketball with so i just am so happyy cause it makes my knowlage about basketball just expand
The successor to: “ when you can’t shoot and everyone knows it”
Than just rebound and assist I say
Videos like these really validate how much of an impact Steph Curry alone had on the game of basketball
james harden changed the league not curry
facts
Merry Xmas to Jxmmy and all fellow fans, I know I’m not the only one that gets this excited whenever he drops a video
Great analysis, but I want to offer a counterpoint. First of all I do agree with your premise that the league has become more skilled on average over time. I see reserves showing skills that I believe would earn them a starting spot 30 years ago. That said, there are factors which contribute to the improved shooting that have nothing to do with improved skill. Analytics has improved shot selection. Rules changes have facilitated more efficient offense. Before 1994, a foul on a 3pt attempt resulted in 2 free throws. The defense was incentivized to defend the 3 aggressively. In addition, for the past few years, shooters must have a clear landing spot or it’s a flagrant foul penalty 1. You can’t crowd a shooter like the old days. You can’t hand check since 2004. As a result, shooters get much more space than they used to. Don’t get me wrong, I think the science of shooting has improved and NBA players are more skilled on average today, but there are also other factors that have improved scoring.
Have average 3pt shootout scores also increased? Would Larry Bird’s competition winning scores fall short today?
Absolutely ! Great take ! I have the exact same argument...the fact that it's easier to score, makes it easier for shooters to succeed...Spacing is also in favor of shooters (which wasn't the case in the 90s) ...so it evolved that way, and in a shooters league, the average shooting skill is better, but I'm wondering how the 90s players would have fared if they'd benefitted from the same advantages of today's league !
Let us not forget the rule change that makes this a shooters league the switch from man defense to zone defense
@@DraGanix33def because of the Kawhi Leonard/Zara Pachulia incident. Feels like it’s been called more ever since that incident because it happened in a pivotal WCF game.
I think another possible reason is because of non-game factors, such as the sport being more popular than before and more lucrative than before, prompting more kids to invest their time into the sport, training and becoming better from a younger age. Maybe more facilities are available for playing the game too. Better equipment, better supplements?
Good point, but at the other hand - teams now know how to defend a 3pt line. They're ready for it. Yet somehow it still works well. If you guard too close - they will go closer to the basket and the other way around. It's a skill of pure, efficient shooting, that makes the defense look so bad. Jrue Holiday, one of the best perimeter defenders in the league, sometimes can't catch up with his man because he can't be both on the perimeter and in the paint. And there's a lot of other good defenders out there. But that never stops players from going for a shot. Zone defense is one of a factors that inside scoring and mid-range scoring went down, and that's why the league was completely broken in the time it was added. But when more and more shooters realized it's their time - the efficiency of zone defense and defensive schemes began to erase. Now you need to combine zone with the regular defense to even have a chance of stopping those players. But it'll only work if there's at least 1 guy who can't shoot. It's a hard time for defense, and it's not just because of the rule changes
A perfect video and gift for the holidays as always.
what im interested in is finding a way to break down whether shooting a 3 or a mid range is a “tougher” shot
considering that mid ranges are more contested, and a lot of threes are less contested but further from the basket, i think it would be a really interesting thing to look into.
i’ll forever say layups are the toughest shot in basketball, especially in post ups. and i think it’s a shame that basketball has trended towards the three point line bc watching 3 heavy teams is just watching boring basketball to me. watching a guy chuck up a 3 and it going in doesn’t excite me. steph in 2015-17 was fascinating bc we hadn’t really seen anything like it before. but nowadays it’s just dragging the excitement of the game down imo.
The only way defense could catch up to this offensive era is with rule changes. How the refs call games currently is just not gonna work. They have to crack down on flopping, make charges a less prevalent call, actually call travels, etc. If that starts happening, offenses would slow down bc they would actually have to start respecting the defensive coverage instead of walking 8 steps, slapping the defender with their arm while putting up a shot, and somehow get an and 1 call.
I disagree with them not calling traveling as the league has focused on it this year and you routinely see it called in games this year.
@@jammer9941 still not nearly as much as necessary. Players travel like 1 out of every 3-5 plays, and u really only see it get called a couple times a game. Not nearly enough
@@jammer9941 I mean relative to the past few years sure? Relative to 20-30-40-50 years ago. Not a chance
The rule changes really have a huge impact. Imagine Kyrie or Durant being hand-checked by Jrue. Kyrie can dribble all he wants with bigger, stronger defenders hand-checking him.
I have watched NBA archived it and the best era was 1980's-2000's the play was strategic and intense shots were earned. Nowadays with such light defense shot percentages are higher but I watch it. It just not as fun as those better defense days.
You did address it briefly, but I was definitely thinking that worse defense/foul calls being easier to get might be an additional factor for the scoring surge.
There were games back in the day with Bird vs Jordan that were near 270 points!
Bird took Jordan for 6 series in the playoffs with points like that!
I am pursuing a Data Analyst career. And this channel helps me a lot from graphs to analysis and from presentation to conclusion. I am learning and being entertained at the same time.
These videos are like a university course on their own
If steph curry’s career was in the 60s and he had the same exact skill set, would it effect the game differently? and how would it have happened in different eras?
The quality of these videos is so high. If I were Netflix I would’ve proposed a special series on basketball to you
dude.... top notch reporting... come on youtube... where is your award show for quality and not just views? Call it the replay button because of all the information in them that you have to play the button more than once.
Tony snell has not missed a free throw since 2019
lmao
Great work as always Jxmy 👏 always teaching us new things
What I’m impressed about is that lebron was in both eras and still was able to evolve his game and be at the top constantly
Another banger of a video from JH!!
8:13 when you realize Jimmy spelled Demar's name "Demar Deroxan"
Finally some more jimmy😭
Here's how the league changed. Less aggressive defence due to more aggressive refereeing. The step back isn't travelling. A 4-step dunk isn't travelling. Players have only slightly gotten better at shooting because there is less focus on recruiting big physical brutes like Shaq and more of a focus on player shooting thanks to Steph etc. Thanks for the videos Jxmy. Always a great job.
The production value on this channel is insane. These are some fantastically made videos.
Doesn’t take into account how the defense has changed and how much of a threat the 3 pt shot is now
Jordan and Bird would dominate this era even more than their own 😅 Those guys were ridiculous scorers being under double and triple team coverage. Imagine their game with spacing and no handchecking.
So all this data and that's your take away smh. There was no zone defense back then. Plus half the league in the 80s were alcoholics and cokeheads, nothing compared to the athletes we have today. Players now are just simply more skilled and the stats don't lie so don't bring your nostalgia here.
@@MrTeeMiti more skilled my ass the players back then didn't showcase their skills back then why? BECAUSE IT WASN'T REQUIRED OF THEM. THEY WERE PLAYING A ROLE WHICH MEANS THEY ARE DOING STUFF NEEDED TO HELP THE TEAM. The Nba is a skill league now with a freelance game, which means players can show their natural game more, back then, you had the 3 and d player, the defender, the pass first guard, certain player roles that players stuck to because the team needed that of them.
Larry averaging 40 at least Jordan might have got 50 or more
@@InfiniteCoreXD that is so fucking cap bro. How old are you dawg.
@@MrTeeMiti Just know its true. The former nba players didn't showcase their skill because it wasn't required of them. They had skill, just wasn't needed because they had stars doing the heavy lifting.
Man can makeup any type of word references, and i would believe it cause how informed he is with everything lmaoo
Today's players have the best long-range shots ever. However, if they played in other eras (with different rules) they would not be able to make those shots. You simply cannot play right up on a player like you used to.
I simply believe this is false. If you’re good in one era you can be good in another. You don’t think Currys gonna get open? He gets open because the amount of screens set for him, now imagine curry in the 90s with a strong ass big men who was setting screens. Literally impossible to guard. These players are actually statistically playing better defenders too, because if you have to play rough to “play defense” dosent that mean your defense is technically worse? Luka will still get open, curry, Dame, KD, Lebron ( he played in a year of hand checking and averaged 19 ppg i believe it was his first season too). These players will get open as the step back wasn’t even a move you’re anticipate.
@@BigG627 I think you misunderstood my post. I'm not saying people were more or less talented in other eras, just that the game was different. You cannot look at shooting percentages today and say they are better shooters because the form had to be different. Look at Bird or Jordan in these clips- they had to go vertical back then because players were able to play closer.
Now, players are able to use a more accurate style because defenders have to play off. Neither style is better than the other, just different.
Basically, 90's players were built for 90's style, today's player are built for today's style.
@@BigG627 Curry would be called for traveling 10 times per game and his set shots would get thrown into the 3rd row. He'd have to make MAJOR adjustments.
@@jasonterrell1563Curry doesn’t travel frequently though. His handling skills have always been solid.
The league has changed but the game 10 years ago was more fun to watch
Over 376 mil views since '07. You go, Jxmy! We can't wait for your next vid. Best NBA content on the net.
The league doesn't want physical defense, they want scoring. It would be nice to have a video describing the rule changes and enforcement changes that also help scoring. Several of the clips had the happy extra step. Jxmy mentioned the Pacers, only to dunk on them. Ouch. p.s. Video could also be called: NBA defense is the worse in history (by these rules anyway)
I think that has to due with people wanting a more entertaining game. The more flashy move, dunks and shooting probably brings in a ton more money then ever before.
@@LuciferWrld999 Yes, and players don't get max contracts for great defense. They get max contracts for scoring, so that is what they focus on. So many of the scoring "highlights" are a guy taking a shot with no one around them.
@@todddonaldson7974 did you really watch the 90s, they dont close out as well as today.
@@markpagtama7954 Keep in mind, my memory is hampered by age. I remember cheering for defense stops. I remember if a team had a 20 point lead, they were going to win the game. Now a days, a 20 point lead means nothing. (yes I am an old fart)
you know its a good day when jxmy posts
11:25 the fact that 3 of the best 4 shooters mentioned were in the same team once upon a time.. These were scary times for the other teams
always an amazing vid. thanks jimmy
What did you learn from this?
NBA has to let the players play defense.
Bring back the big men!
Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy!!! The intro alone!!! Man this channel is a gift that keeps on giving 😁 Merry Christmas Jimmy!
I think the increased accuracy in 3 pointers is probably also because double stepbacks are now legal and get you tons of space between your defender for an open shot
And players Palm the ball in the handle, touch the ball with two games, and defenders cannot touch the player (no handcheck), that makes shooting easy
Totally agree. The gather or zero step allows the shooter to square up both feet and enough time to square their body too. Eliminate the zero step and put hand checking back in the game and we would quickly see the meta change. We can see this even in the highlights of this video. MJ's shots were fadeaways, plant and pump fakes, or plant and stepping around the defender. The highlights of the modern shooters are 0-stepping and literally with a pause to square up and then shoot. It's like comparing jump shots to set shots.
While it does not affect the shooting percentage, I also wonder what the longer rebounds are doing to the defense. it's like this spread game and rule combination is creating a positive feedback loop on incentivizing long shots. There's no value in guarding the paint and when there's no physicality permitted then I don't know what a defense can actually do.
@@SimulatedEarthboundMisfit Very good point about Jordan's shots being fade aways and in general tougher shots. Another thing you'll notice about today's league is every buzzer beater or game winner attempt is a stepback because it's the easiest kind of shot to make
@@javigar133 Good point, there's a lot of pushing off today. But if the defense so much as lays a pinkie on the jersey of the offense, they get two free throws
@@SimulatedEarthboundMisfit great point! I just wish all these stats were converted to their era and analyse all different factors influencing on the rise in shooting percentage rather than claiming players are more skilled, which is laughable
Made A whole video to explain David Stern removing defense from the NBA.
it is not the defense that makes it a shooters league, they became more volume and efficient shooters. Did you watch those games on 80's and 90's, most of the time they were open on the midrange and yet they cannot hit it and you gonna say it was because of the defense of that era, i don't think so. As explained on this video those who can shoot on that era became specialist only, they were spot up shooters, they were not part of the regular play unlike now.
Towards the end when you spoke on kd and the warriors, I couldn’t help but hear Charles Barkley saying “jump shooting teams don’t win championships”😂 it’s a new era chuck and we been in it😂💯
Curry’s really inspirational man
Can't dispute the skill level in today's NBA. Just as indisputable is that the product is garbage compared to the 90's. The league is tainted by referees and terrible rules, there is no overcoming this.
Lol , playoffs are so fun to watch compared to boring 90s with no skill and just bigs pushing and shoving in the post
You’ve been lied to
I love some of the 90’s and 2000’s stars and many would still be great today but go back and watch the games…. Bad spacing, contested long 2’s, bad switching, and big men just camping in the paint.
3:28 I’ve been wondering this for the past couple seasons and jimmy drops a video about it amazing
Imagine MJ, Bird, Drexler’s numbers if they played in this era with their similar game from the 90’s, these guys would 40ppg
They’d all be worse not better, more limited than the top scorers today
@@jonjuko8859 Dude, really, stick to the NFL
They’d be great but 40 is a stretch. Maybe MJ in a single season under optimal circumstances like a very bad roster where he’s taking all the shots lol but even that’s very unlikely. They’d probably average around what they did or maybe less. The early 80’s was as faster than any game today . Todays PaCe is closer to the late 80’s and early 90’s.
@@jonjuko8859 🤭Should I pull up the stats of Giannis and Zion outside the restricted area ? These guys are the definition of limited and one is averaging 32.1 ppg on 59% TS while the other is averaging 26 ppg on 65.2% TS .
MJ’s athleticism is on par with Zion/Giannis and his finishing %’s during his prime are on par with Zion’s. Of course all these guys blow Bird out the water when it comes to athleticism but he’s clearly the best shooter out of these guys followed by MJ being 2nd.
Drexler is interesting because even though he still could be a good all around player I’m not sure how his scoring would translate.
@@NothingElseMattersJM they’re completely different athletes MJ is a thin guard. 6’6 190-215 in his prime, Zion and Giannis are giant freaks
The days of boring iso plays followed by one dunk after another are over. The shooting, from the three, mid-range, whatever…. Catch and shoot, off the dribble, step-back, you name it… incredibly good.
Another great video!
Maybe we should take into account that in the last 20 years some rulles have become much more fluid like:
- Traveling (too many)
- Dribbling (all strange ways)
- Fouls (too many in defence, too less in offence)
In the past and still in Europe referees are way more strict about them.
The Nba decided that the Show is more important than the fight facilitating the offence. And indeed it has become so together with the insane improvement in shooting.
Coaches: "3s are a low percentage shot, high risk, bad shot. Shoot more than 2 and I will bench you."
"Live by the 3. Die by the 3."
"You can win a few games with 3pt shooting, but definitely not championships."
Steph Curry: "But I just won 5 championships."
Coaches : "...Ok, I've assigned a personal shooting coach for each of you. You will practice 3s until your fingertips bleed!"
The most impressive for me is that with all these big changes in scoring, MJ still holds the most points in a single playoff game. Food for thought.
He did also play 53 minutes and took 40+ shots and 20+ free throws. Dmitch for comparison only played 43 minutes shot only 33 shots and had only 13 free throws while scoring only 6 less
@@isakmaaan0326those shots were from 3 though. Mike made absolutely 0 3 pointers.
@@mrniz461 his problem though? Not like it wasn’t there for him to use. He just couldn’t shoot from that far out
@@isakmaaan0326 doesn’t take anything away from MJ though. He has zero legit teammates at that time against the best team in the east which makes it more impressive.
@@isakmaaan0326 plus if it was easy why noone has eclipsed it yet?
i love watching these videos every time, because they are broken down so well
How do you just blow past and not mention the ridiculousness of Curry's attempts and % where he has the highest % with more than 4 attempts per game more than the next highest 😂 best shooter of all time
He was KD’s 2nd option
This just proves how Michael Jordan was going up against mail man and plumbers
50 years from now when shooters are even better, will the current players be plumbers?