Nice video! I really liked it when you talked about paces and not worrying about meters. It made a lot of sense. That should help me to keep track better.
Thanks Dave. Love the modification of counting paces rather than the traditional pace count/100 meters. Totally makes sense. Looking forward to the subsequent videos in this series.
I love this! This is something I adopted a long time ago as I found it easy to keep track of paces in blocks of 100 than remembering to move a bead at, say 72. You are the first/only reputable professional I've come across to mention this method, never mind advocate it. What a breath of fresh air.
I am SO using that method! My pace count when I was in the Army, was 72. I have short legs, lol. After years and years of using this method, it became almost second nature. Problem was, if you rely strictly on pace count for accuracy, you will be wrong. You need-as you stated-to be able to orient the map when doing the pace count, and understand terrain orientation. Pace counting is great, but it is labor intensive. I much prefer your way, and might even try this with maps. Several maps I have arent to scale, and just rely on terrain association. Which would be ideal for this use of pace count!
I do something similar to your pace count method, although slightly different. It's something I came up with when I learned Land Nav in the Scouts. The Scout Masters taught us to use pace count instead of having to teach us how many paces were in "x" amount of distance, I'm guessing because we were all kids, and didn't want to rely on our math skills for it. 😂 Admittedly, some of us were not great at basic math, so they were probably justified. However, we all could count to 100 with a fair amount of reliability. So they taught us to count out 100 paces and move a bead. When we used all four beads, move one of the long beads down, and move all four short beads back up and start over. I had to modify my beads to work for how my brain worked. I had to add an extra bead to both sections, to eliminate any ambiguity. I also added a third section of 5 beads so I only had to count to 20 with my paces. My pace count beads have three sections of beads. 5 long beads, 10 long beads, and 5 short beads. I count out 20 steps and move a short bead. When I run out of beads, I know I have walked 100 paces, and have to move a long bead down and move all 5 short beads back up. When I run out of all 10 of the long beads, I have walked 1000 paces and I move one of the 5 long beads down and move all 10 of the long beads back up, along with all 5 of the short beads. When I run out of all 5 of the long beads, if that happens, I mark a tick count in my notebook, and move all beads back up, starting the cycle once again. Yeah, it's a mess, but it's my mess., and makes sense to me.
Really nice video. Practicing pace count has really increased my confidence in my navigation capabilities. The awesome thing about your courses is that we get real experience, and a good pace let's us say with confidence that we've traveled 3.1 miles / 6.2 miles, etc. Looking forward to the next video!
No one teaches pace count and beads? Could you mean that no one teaches this tried and true technique any longer since we now are reliant upon GPS? I’m gonna go tell that to my Drill SGT back in 1982. I taught it to Cav Scouts when I was an Instructor/Advisor to the Army National Guard in the 90’s. Everything you’re teaching is taught all throughout one’s military career. Us old Soldiers, especially us LLRP and Scouts have used this our entire careers just as you did. But you did a fantastic job teaching it today.
Thank you! I guess I am a wander. My mind wanders and I lose count of paces all the time. I just go through the woods this way and around and then back that way. Ha! Seriously your lessons are great!
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Simple and effective explanation, thank you man. We have and i prefer meters/kms too in Holland. And that USA concept of weight in 'stones' i find kinda weird, cause each stone weighs differently loL!
Pace beads are a brilliantly simple invention and their use fascinates me. BUT, they seem to be specialized towards hiking and travel by foot, leaving me to wonder how the same principles can be applied to, say, mountain biking or other forms of travel.
Hi Dave, I've noticed that calculating the distance with the stride length only works when I'm riding alone. As soon as I'm out and about with others, I automatically adjust my stride length to the others. This leads to inaccurate results. Best regards JPH
"There's nothing new under the sun." We were taught to do this growing up. We never used conventional distances. We only used pace counts. But we aren't in the military and we were creating our own maps, not using printed scaled ones.
I have not been in the military, but assume that any new AZ is with respect to 0 as north and not a floating reference with respect to the last AZ. The first time I made and used pace beads I had not bought a 100 m tape measure so my usual walk was just 5000 paces.
I never thought about putting rocks in your pocket as a pace counting method. Of course, with the way my brain works, after a mile or two I'd be like "why the heck are these rocks in my pocket? Oh look! A squirrel!"
Awesomeness! Dave breaks it down!👍
Nice video! I really liked it when you talked about paces and not worrying about meters. It made a lot of sense. That should help me to keep track better.
First time I’ve ever understood this completely. Thanks, Dave!
Amazing content. Almost all Daves videos add so much immediately useable value.
Thanks Dave. Love the modification of counting paces rather than the traditional pace count/100 meters. Totally makes sense. Looking forward to the subsequent videos in this series.
I love this!
This is something I adopted a long time ago as I found it easy to keep track of paces in blocks of 100 than remembering to move a bead at, say 72.
You are the first/only reputable professional I've come across to mention this method, never mind advocate it.
What a breath of fresh air.
Dave é o rei. Dave is the king. 👍
Really like the 2 ways of using pace beads. Thanks, Dave!
Brilliant, thank you!
Love it… keep this content coming!
I am SO using that method! My pace count when I was in the Army, was 72. I have short legs, lol. After years and years of using this method, it became almost second nature. Problem was, if you rely strictly on pace count for accuracy, you will be wrong. You need-as you stated-to be able to orient the map when doing the pace count, and understand terrain orientation. Pace counting is great, but it is labor intensive.
I much prefer your way, and might even try this with maps. Several maps I have arent to scale, and just rely on terrain association. Which would be ideal for this use of pace count!
Thanks Dave
Love it, keeping paces instead of worrying about meters or yards.
Great tips, Dave! Love the Navigation info.
Pace count pro tip: Count DOWN from your pace count number to zero. You’re a lot less likely to miss a bead and mess up your count.
Smart, simple, easy, and perfect!
This is good stuff! Thanks.
Dave is the King
I do something similar to your pace count method, although slightly different. It's something I came up with when I learned Land Nav in the Scouts. The Scout Masters taught us to use pace count instead of having to teach us how many paces were in "x" amount of distance, I'm guessing because we were all kids, and didn't want to rely on our math skills for it. 😂 Admittedly, some of us were not great at basic math, so they were probably justified. However, we all could count to 100 with a fair amount of reliability. So they taught us to count out 100 paces and move a bead. When we used all four beads, move one of the long beads down, and move all four short beads back up and start over. I had to modify my beads to work for how my brain worked. I had to add an extra bead to both sections, to eliminate any ambiguity. I also added a third section of 5 beads so I only had to count to 20 with my paces. My pace count beads have three sections of beads. 5 long beads, 10 long beads, and 5 short beads. I count out 20 steps and move a short bead. When I run out of beads, I know I have walked 100 paces, and have to move a long bead down and move all 5 short beads back up. When I run out of all 10 of the long beads, I have walked 1000 paces and I move one of the 5 long beads down and move all 10 of the long beads back up, along with all 5 of the short beads. When I run out of all 5 of the long beads, if that happens, I mark a tick count in my notebook, and move all beads back up, starting the cycle once again. Yeah, it's a mess, but it's my mess., and makes sense to me.
Brother the Euclid drop was 👍
I gotta watch this one again.....
Another great video sir. Thanks. 73 God bless 🙏
Really nice video. Practicing pace count has really increased my confidence in my navigation capabilities. The awesome thing about your courses is that we get real experience, and a good pace let's us say with confidence that we've traveled 3.1 miles / 6.2 miles, etc. Looking forward to the next video!
Great video
Thanks Dave, I'm following 👍👍👍👍👍
No one teaches pace count and beads? Could you mean that no one teaches this tried and true technique any longer since we now are reliant upon GPS?
I’m gonna go tell that to my Drill SGT back in 1982. I taught it to Cav Scouts when I was an Instructor/Advisor to the Army National Guard in the 90’s. Everything you’re teaching is taught all throughout one’s military career. Us old Soldiers, especially us LLRP and Scouts have used this our entire careers just as you did. But you did a fantastic job teaching it today.
I mean No ONE teaches using a pace counter for paces and not Meters or Miles
Thank you!
I guess I am a wander. My mind wanders and I lose count of paces all the time. I just go through the woods this way and around and then back that way. Ha! Seriously your lessons are great!
Interesting. Thank you for another good video.
❤❤ love your work, channel and content!!! Bring it brother!! I’m needing an intervention!! I absolutely love self reliance outfitters and your products!! Thank you so much brother Dave Canterbury!!!
Simple and effective explanation, thank you man. We have and i prefer meters/kms too in Holland. And that USA concept of weight in 'stones' i find kinda weird, cause each stone weighs differently loL!
Pace beads are a brilliantly simple invention and their use fascinates me. BUT, they seem to be specialized towards hiking and travel by foot, leaving me to wonder how the same principles can be applied to, say, mountain biking or other forms of travel.
Hi Dave, I've noticed that calculating the distance with the stride length only works when I'm riding alone. As soon as I'm out and about with others, I automatically adjust my stride length to the others. This leads to inaccurate results. Best regards JPH
Hi Dave, is there anything wrong with using a mechanical pedometer?
No
Great video ... I teach scuba the same way ... make it easy ... lol
Wait, I'm still lost from my Ft. Bliss maps that had like 3 contour lines for a 1000 miles...🤣🤣🤣 Loving the series!
Am I trippin' or are those pace beads simply the rubber seals that were used in bathroom sink faucets back in the days before "washerless" faucets?
"There's nothing new under the sun."
We were taught to do this growing up. We never used conventional distances. We only used pace counts. But we aren't in the military and we were creating our own maps, not using printed scaled ones.
I have not been in the military, but assume that any new AZ is with respect to 0 as north and not a floating reference with respect to the last AZ. The first time I made and used pace beads I had not bought a 100 m tape measure so my usual walk was just 5000 paces.
What’s your best advice for what to do if you loose your count while on the trail , when you are counting out your pace count for each bead drop? 6:55
Go back to last known point of origin and start again
#KeepLeading
I never thought about putting rocks in your pocket as a pace counting method. Of course, with the way my brain works, after a mile or two I'd be like "why the heck are these rocks in my pocket? Oh look! A squirrel!"
Love the Olight on the SAK Dave.
1000 paces is one mile - the Roman mil(1000)e
14 BEADS CONFUSED
Thanks Dave