How Does Xing Yi work? - Exploring Xingyi ep2
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2019
- In this episode we are in the city of Tianjin to meet up with Zhang Jun and get a lesson in some advanced body mechanics and power generation methods of Hebei Style Xingyi Quan.
In this series, I team up with Paul Andrews of Xingyi Academy and Jon Nicklin to travel to Tianjin, Shanxi and Henan to explore the various styles of the art of Xingyi Quan. We will cover the Hebei Style of Li Cun Yi, Song and Che Family Xingyi in Taigu, Dai Style Xinyi in Qi County and Muslim Xinyi Liuhe in Henan Province.
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The 'secret' to developing Qi is openly taught in all of the internal styles when teaching standing practice. Xing Yi San Ti, Taiji Zham Zhong, Bagua's static postures of each of the 8 palms all use the same mental process. This bssic internal memtal meditative process is how the Qi is developed.
Sun LuTamg practiced SanTi until Guo Yunshen was satisfied in the level of energy LuTang produced, about one year practice.
This internal practice is taught but many students overlook it because they assume it is just a physical correction mechamism. In reality, this constant mentally checking the physical alignment, from head to toe is the secret to understanding all aspects of Qi.
The body remains static so the mind can wander around the structure, feeling and sensing. Focus, concentration, and sensitivity are developed this way. These are necessary to understand and develop Qi.
It is not openly taught unfortunately. I wish it was. There are definitely ways to do it that don't get you results.
What is the meditational process in ZZ for internal power development?
Very good, clear & precise explanation 👍👍
Would you mind explaining the essential elements of San Ti Shi?
My teacher said to just keep standing and eventually I will gain it.
When a Brit leaves the playground to find the original one inch punch...
Great video, very interesting thanks for taking the time.
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Lots and lots of good stuff here, if you have the eyes and ears! 😉 Some of my notes to self: how to generate whole body fali (cross-link to Yiquan); short-range and not just long-range power; transfer of one's own body mass into someone else; power from the ground up, use of XYQ explosive forward driving steps, driving from back foot; compressing, bending/releasing the spinal bow (body like a metal spring); extending into your opponent, or pulling him/her into you on contraction/compression; rotational power and vertical/horizontal planes. Another great video. Lots to practise, many reminders. Thank you! 🙏👍
I really appreciate all that you are doing! These videos are so helpful for those of us studying on our own. I have been reading Xing Yi Quan Xue since high school and seeing it applied is very useful to me. I am thankful that it is not silky pj wushu as well. I have been a long time Karate student and internal martial arts are the next level of understanding. Also, I believe that it is an art that will let you age (and fight) gracefully into your 90s. Thanks again.
what a great breakdown! I find that every internal system has slightly different words for describing the same body mechanics. Helps me to more fully comprehend it when hear it from multiple perspectives- thanks for the share!
Really, I can't thank you enough for making this!
Amazing work man!
Awesome video, really looking forward to the next video!
Good stuff. There's more to it than meets the eye. Something to practise throughout one's lifespan and more it will enhance whatever system of MA and life itself. TQ.
My 1st sifu in Kung Fu taught authentic xingyi Quan. He was taught in the Korean mountains. He was one of the kindest individuals I have ever had the pleasure of meeting. Yet, when you attempted to spare with him it was like attempting to fight a honey badger. Where ever you may be sifu Sung Lee I miss your training.
Can you detail and show the basic but unique elements he taught you ? Xie xie
Advanced teacher and clearly a friendly guy.
Jon is like a babe looking a butterfly, opened eyes and all impress him. Like his spirit.
I was telling him he’s like The Food Ranger of Kung Fu hahaa
I've seen several videos of yours, thanks for your great job of filming these. In my point of view, this master shows really special work in his training, not many master have achieved this, vertical circle and horizontal circle generate power at the same time. possibley recorded as 爆炸勁 or 火燒身.
BTW, I have learned 6 years of Xing Yi Quan in Taiwan when I was in college. Some masters of NeiJia Quan (refers to Xing Yi , BaGua, TaiJi) moved to Taiwan in 1949, including Zhang Jun Feng who is the master of my master. Most of their Xing Yi has deeply influenced by Bagua.
Thanks! I'd love to visit Taiwan sometime too!
The bald man's Chinese is really nice! His Xingy ain't bad either!
These 2 xingyi episodes were really good.
Please do episodes on baguazhang like this
Thanks man! Next project is gonna be on the southern styles of Fujian. I’ve been getting quite a few requests for Ba Gua, so I’ll see what I can do
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yeh bagua
(try doing some on 'practical method taijiquan') my style ;)
It's still in the planning stages and I'm still contacting teachers... but yes I do hope to visit Yong Chun county.
To answer the question about Taiji or Bagua... what I am trying to do with these series is to join the dots of different styles. I may like to feature some Chen Style and Zhaobao Style Taiji at some point in the future to explore the connection between Shaolin, Xinyi and Taiji. I also want to visit Cangzhou and other areas in Hebei and western Shandong to cover more classical Northern Styles, so we can see the overlaps from one style to another. On the whole I'm more interested in older styles, particularly ones which have been influential in the development of newer ones... such as Fanzi, Cuojiao, Tongbei, Cha Quan etc.
There are a few groups here in Shanghai who do Xingyi and Bagua together, it would take much less effort to organise some interviews with them.
@@MonkeyStealsPeach will be great to see more taiji too.
Chen, zhoubao even hulie and li taijiquan that are not so popular around.
This teacher is saying very good things
Dear , and Esteemed expert practitioners of the Xing-Yi.
Thank you for Your showing the one-inch power,coming nont from the muscles but form controlling our body sturctur and tendons. Thank you very much. Best regardsand Good Health, Paul, 64, retired instructor of Karate
Amazing! One of the most insightful episodes ever
That was incredible
This is the kind of skill that tricks people. So sudtle
Secret but basics KF most people do not know.
Holy smokes! I REALLY enjoyed watching this. Thanks for posting these videos! I think the 4 dislikes were expecting something like Jean Claude in Bloodsport.....
The dislikes come from this one particular loser... dont worry about it
@@MonkeyStealsPeach Although I'm definitely not one of the dislikers, but I don't think this is a healthy attitude towards getting dislikes. Critique should always be taken serious and reflected upon. Otherwise we might lose touch with reality.
I dont' have an issue with genuine dislikes... of course people are entitled to their opinion and not everybody will like what I do. But this is one person who consistently gives 4 dislikes within the first hour or so of me uploading a video.
@Thomas Tamba Let's agree to disagree. A dislike means, someone dislikes something about the video, whatever it may be. Simply ignoring it is denial.
@True WingChun Ok, did you read my first sentence? 😂 I didn't press the dislike button, I liked the video. We were talking about a totally different issue. I'm a Xingyi practitioner and I like the video for the fact, they're doing a series on it. Now calm down would you 😂
This is important technique. Two centers of gravity exist in human body. One on the hip bone (inside of abs) is used for martial art. Japanese one also uses it. Modern pianist also uses it, too.
I'm in Xing yi quan, for these monthes. Most movies aren't useful for using the center gravity. This one is good. Especially the last performance is so good.
At 3:37 he might be saying Zhengjing or 'shock force'. You have this in Simingpai (Nanpai) Taiji37 and in Chow Gar Southern Mantis where it is know in Hakka as Gunjing.
Cool video!
Is the stuff you have on patreon more training method oriented or is it like, bits and pieces shown a bit randomly like the youtube videos?
There’s a mix of stuff. Some of it is more specific questions from interviews, sometimes I put the uncut footage up, I’m also going to be uploading some tutorials of stuff Ive learnt here
So many types of Kung Fu! Very interesting.
Ronnie Corbett practicing @ 5 mins 🙏😂
Monkey steals the Peach and Apple: Okinawa-Te reference
I font knowit....this style......i like it....is the...found..it...os for me
My style of Xing Yi does not incorporate the sacrum popping shown around 8 minutes in. Are you aware of any tutorials on how to get that aspect of the power?
Not sure of any online tutorials, but from what I've seen in China it seems to be pretty widespread among Xingyi practitioners, just this teacher emphasised it a bit more
@@MonkeyStealsPeach That aspect is not in my system of Hebei so I will one day have to learn it from someone. I am very taken with the high level of refinement.
At minute 8:00 discussion, 吞吐Tun Tu / Swallowing and Spitting and 起落 Qi Luo/ Rising and Falling are not the same.
yea I know, was just a spur of the moment thing when they asked me
At 9:45 would this be considered Yiquan training?
No, its Hebei Xingyi. Don't forget this is what Wang Xiang Zhai learnt prior to creating Yi Quan
@@MonkeyStealsPeach Thanks. That’s very interesting. I’ve only just been made aware of Yi Quan. A taiji practitioner told me that’s how fali is developed. I don’t believe that’s necessarily true. It could be one way but not the only way for certain.
Dose it ? Really ? and for what ? I hope your r not suggesting using it for fighting
Those were not "advanced" body mechanics. They were basic use of dantian and spine and connection. Some "teachers" didn't already know that?
dispense with all the hoopla. Hsing-i is just F=MA, accelerating your body to generate impact.
kung fu
3:58 Now we know why chinese people drag their feet while walking... they train their Xingyi xD
In taiji use heel for base so the elbow can’t go further than knee but xing yi to use tip toe for base so their can go bit further that why this still got energy
🤣 4:05 & 8:13
Qi gong good heart good lungs let's go to the run in forest
Wait a second - that’s isn’t Jon from the UK, who I practiced Yi quan with at international hall?
I just showed Jon your message. He said he’s been trying to get in touch with you for years. Could you send a PM to my Instagram or FB page and I’ll give you his email
Monkey Steals Peach thanks! I found his work number
I can tell u right now one thing u are doing wrong and this master is doing correct when pushing .
You need to push your breath all the way down to your dantian. This way it’s more difficult to push you out of the way, but is for offense also real easy to push somebody out of the way.
誘騙人啦！
But can he really do it in real fight? That is the question!!
They always said advance training, inner core movements, powerful...i believe a single jab from a boxer is more effective...
Any professional boxer would tell you they're using similar techniques. Any style may look quite different in use tho the human body is a singular design...in other words even mma fighters borrow this old way of body movement. Studied kung fu most my life and train boxing and mma at local gym, it's all the same.........basically lolz.
The last "form" is tragic. Is it really Hebei Xingyi ? It looks like Yiquan.
It is like wing fun. Metod
2 thumbs down
You guys have no idea, and neither do the men you are meeting with , except for theories and stories.
peace
Hmm...I pity you.
internal training is structural training; its to be trained to supplement an external style which gives individual techniques. Techniques with this kind of power are devastating--perhaps you should visit a master and get a sense of it in person rather than sitting behind your keyboard and assuming you know everything!
@@RRRRRAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH I don't sit behind anything especially fantasy. I've had my time with teachers who were real fighters. If you want to see what kind of sense I have, fly into Thailand give me call and we'll see how devastating your internal has helped your external.
Fred BeBodhi you're making the assumption that my teachers aren't fighters of a high caliber as well.. I'd love to fly to Thailand to fight a stranger but America is too much of a mess at the moment!
Fred assumption is the mother of all fuckups,keep training mate i trainned tai box over there in the 80s yes some these guys aint fighters( ring) cus thats a young mans game with gloves on. Hope you learnr about principles cus looks like your still looking outside tai box.love to u too and peacex
I can't understand what they are doing. It's so far from any king of fight, it's more like a study of something but don't know what. One single punch of a trained fighter will result more powerfull and explosive. So, what are you doing there? However, it remains a beautiful testimony of a different culture, but if you want to fight go elsewhere please
Xing Yi works in real fights. My friend has competed in Muay Thai, and full contact kick boxing tournaments using only xing yi.
I was disappointed. I am not convinced this master has internal development. Nothing he showed was impressive or showed quality xingyi .
Feel free to show yours
LOL!
it works ? at what ? lol
I think we need to finally leave this mystical unfounded and unproven Qi/Ki behind. It really is just traditional beliefs that are not true. Any proper fighter or martial artist knows that it is body mechanics...but if you focus on 'moving ki' or 'dan tian' this or that, you are wasting your time or just getting into mystical aspects which aren't there. Most martial artists, like these guys, are generally paper tigers...are theoretical or 'artists'. Yes, I love traditional forms and it's cool, but I am under no illusion that I am developing life giving Ki or that after years that Ki will give me a single thing. Sadly, we martial artists hang onto this marketing, this Chinese BS (and the Chinese make up a truck load of BS to embellish their martial arts to the point of downright lying) that we swallow because it is interesting.