Exactly. Something that all the readers tend to overlook along with the torture in general. There is literally no body and brain left in the guy. He's scattered. So he acted shitty. Simple as that.
[EDIT: GUYS I stand corrected. One commenter pointed out that the torturer was carrying a speculum. That is an undeniable indication that I was wrong] That's just speculation. "Husband and wife" is probably just a metaphor for them being in close proximities
@@omniXenderman yeah still speculation. It wouldn't really explain Griffith's tendencies when he already sa'd the princess prior to his capture. It's clearly a coping mechanism to reclaim a sense of power and dominance, like sa in real life is
@@NeonPlanes The first time Griffith was associated with sa was when he sold himself to the noble in charge of the judar fortress that we see in the golden age arc it was shown in a flashback after Griffith returned when he was talking to casca how he felt dirty and he converted the emotonal trauma from the sa in to self harm physical pain amd damage being easier to understand and profess then actually confronting the emotions
Lol in 1807 they were developing early combustion engines and stuff, people already wore top hats and canes. what are you talking about? Make it 1207 and you are getting closer
"Falsely accused of treason" Griffith was literally trying to take an insane king's kingdom from him. Granted he was going mad at the idea of Guts abandoning him but he fucked around and found out.
What a weird hoop you jumped over. No one knew what Griffith's ultimate goal was, the King was jealous of Griffith taking his daughter's virginity but couldn't say that so he lied and said treason.
@@AgentshadlingI mean but he did commit treason lol, regardless of how much a freak the king is I think him having the queen, the duke, and the most likely heir Adonis being killed is treason. And having sex with a princess in that day in age without consent of the king is certainly treason lol.
@@thomasfisher7391 again, no one knew it was him that did those things. The King had no grounds, consent of the King didn't matter otherwise he would've used that against Griffith, but he didn't because both Griffith and Charlotte called him out at wanting to have sex with his own daughter.
@@Agentshadling I don’t understand what you’re talking about, him having sex with charlotte the princess is the treason he is accused of. Whether they know about the other things or not is completely irrelevant they are still treason. Having sex with a princess in this age without the consent of the king would absolutely have been considered treason regardless of whether or not the princess was a willing participant.
@@Orcheis_ that fool snuck into the bedroom of the daughter of the king of Midland and thoroughly clapped her cheeks and low key was conspiring I would say that shit was treason to they’re medieval standards 🤷🏽♂️
@@Orcheis_ that's the underlying truth, yes. It's also true that berserk and Midland takes much inspiration from medieval Europe, and the Holy See mimics Christianity. That being said, in medieval Europe if a commoner or even a general (Griffith was both), snuck into the princess chambers and had sex with her, therefore stealing her virginity before she could be married, that would be considered treason. For the king, it would throw the kingdom into a nightmare of political and religious turmoil. So I know the king in berserk was gross and had a thing for his daughter, but even if he didn't he would still do the same and Griffith would still be guilty with said precontext.
yeah, didnt he like orchestrate the death of a noble and the queen? Also, tried to get the throne through political means and slept with the princess. That's a lot of treasonous action.
@@CA_786and Guts and the other tried their absolute best to save him and they did succeed in it and after they did their best to be there for Griffith only for him to betray Guts and do horrible stuff to casca infront of Guts and btw Femto is Griffit and Griffith is femto
Man, the word “dystopian” is a MASSIVE understatement of the Berserk world Edit: It's just medieval times? Yea when there is demons, underworld beings, astral monsters, a carcass mixed with demons and women💀, a literal god tree, and a false messiah who is manipulating humanity
@@bruhman2736 @nicolabertini2741 both of you are kinda overestimating the cruelty of medieval times. Rulers still had to make sure that the peasants were happy, as most peasants had arms due to the threat of tyrannical leaders and the fact they made up the majority of the army during wartime. While it still wasn't a good life, it isn't anywhere near as bad as some think it is. (Unless you lost a war, then looting happens and that's as bad as you think it is)
Back then they would make you sit on a big wooden horse shaped like a triangle, tie ropes around your ankles that pulled straight down. Rip you from taint to tophat. If tophats existed during midevil times.
Just to remind you, Guts came back for him, Guts and the gang risked everything to save him, took care of him and never gave up on him, yet after all of that, he was not content with just becoming the Godhand, no, he went to the deepest pits of evil and did that horrible thing to Casca just because. Keep in mind, he couldve become a Godhand member and ressurected his crew, he just didnt because he didnt want to. Griffith should get the infinite death loop like Diavolo but a million times worse.
He can’t resurrect those who have been branded as sacrifices due to their souls falling into the infinite void of torment with the apostles. That was the saddest realization I found reading Berserk at 13 years old 😭
You would do the same thing. I get it's neat to think people are mentally tuff enough to do the blessed thing and stay loyal but he was crippled beaten tortured to piss lol it's stay loyal and stay like that or sell out your friends and loved ones and become a literal god who can fly around and be relevant or I suppose be loyal and murmur words spit drool and hobble around. Fuck off lol
@@jamestomlin5525 We don't know if they will get freed or not YET. If the Idea of Evil can be killed, then I don't see why something seemingly derived from his creation should exist.
He would've resurrected them if he was Griffith. That's Femto, like oh my god man there was a transformation that existed that stripped him of all good feelings like care and love. Not to say Griffith saw Casca and Guts get into a relationship while he was being tortured made him actively hate him to a particular extent instead of being apathetic. Not to say Guts was the face of his own psychological torture since it was the only thing that kept him from truly losing himself and having the semblance of consciousness that allowed him to still register and go through the pain and humiliation. At that time the Griffith(who was most likely in shock) just wanted Guts to go away from his mind. I'm just saying, if you think IF you had the power of Femto and were stripped of all good in your soul, you wouldn't do similar if not more horrific things than Femto you're laughably naive. read about the banality of evil.
Griffith was also castrated, SA'd and a bunch of other gruesome methods of torture. The anime truly doesn't do it enough justice as to the very extent Griffith was made broken.
Not just that, his face was implied to be severely damaged as well from Guts reaction when he lifted Griffith’s helmet visor And by “damaged”, I mean his skin was ripped off his face
I still think that miura wanted to show griffith's face in the end of the story. Since apostles rivert back to human meaning in the end Griffith would have turned back into the shrivelled body he had before the sacrifice. Just imagine Griffith laying flat on the ground helplessly while guts is standing over him and then we see his disfigured face for the first time
Such things are very common, and part and parcel of a major "religion of Love" back then in the medieval ages(I can't mention it or else my comment gets removed). Removing the "sins" through all kinds of torture, etc. Or invading all other countries that are not a part of this religion, using God as their justification for war. It was a much more cruel time back then, in the middle ages.
Griffith is one of the best written characters I have ever seen in a manga! He is one of my favorite characters to dislike and try to understand. To be honest, I still don’t think I completely understand him. Characters like him can evoke strong emotions in people.
Finally somebody who sees that Grifith as a complex enough character, to not just be reduced as “the bad guy". Berserk (just as life itself) is beyond “good and evil".
@@HudsonSheline He is a indeed very hateable, precisely because it is well written. At first the story presents him as a young ambitious gentleman, but berserk is not a fairy tale with humans just battling evil creatures, it is very realistic as the band of the hawk are not heroes but mercenaries, very likeable and charismatic but murders for a hire. I don't think the Casca's incident was mainly for revenge but something deeper, I think it was Griffith testing if he had lost enough of his humanity, as the eclipse ritual per se, is how a person sacrifices his humanity for the sake of power. The torture to which Grifith was subdued is also something to consider (not for the sake of apologize), Grifith was extremely broken, both physically (he was even castrated) and mentally, when the temptation of the behelit was presented, so perhaps Femto as an inhuman being was just testing his regained “manhood” in the worst way posible, not for the sake of vengeance but for a primal instinct of asserting dominance; he was reduced to an almost carcass while the only man that has defeated him was complete and stronger that before.
Honestly it was strange to me, why would Griffith, a seasoned general, warrior and expert tactician, not escape sooner in the night after bedding the Princess? In some twisted way it seemed he was deliberately trying to get caught. Guts leaving really made him forget his dream now that I think about it...
The great paradox of man... capable of the most extreme, unamaginable evil. And at the same time capable of the greatest, most profound care and empathy. Man is suffering. And some people chose to use that as an excuse, others as inspiration!!!!
@@karmacop217i mean the only thing you could say is wether or not it actually was his fault or just destined to happen beyond his control since you saw Conrad and Ubik manipulating him as a child (which tbf could be them manipulating him as an adult in the flashback but maybe they’ve been the old lady all along). But on the other hand Skull Knight and Guts already proved that you can go against Fate so most likely Griffith is just a b*tch and should die anyway
@Sweet_potato402 What you're seeing is the same hat trick pulled off by characters as diverse as Lotor from Voltron: Legendary Defender, and Humbert Humbert from Lolita: be a good-looking/well-spoken/charismatic enough malignant narcissist predator fuckboy, and a significant amount of the population will buy it hook, line, and sinker. This is why we can't have nice things in real life.
@@SHAMIIZEN Bruh u saying like guts didn't nearly die every single day for 2 years? Remember the majesty especially told the torturer to keep Griffith alive. Guts was attacked with the intention to kill.
Its important to note that the only thing that kept him going during that time was guts. Imagine not only being physically tortured, but also mentally, because the only person you can think of is the person that (at least in your opinion) is responsable for all this. In the end it wasn't his dream that burned him, it was his obsession. For him everyone else were pawns. Tools that he can use to achieve his dream. When he realized that his most important tool will not be his pawn anymore, something in him snapped. For him it felt like he was losing control, like his plans are about to fail. Thats why he slept with the princess out of the blue. He searched comfort and wanted to regain the control he lost. He wanted to know that his plans are still working out and that everyone was listening to his will. After he was done he realized that this will not bring guts back, that he is not in control anymore and that his plans did really fail, which scared him.
After spending a year being tortured, only knowing pain, losing all your human capabilities, living in the dark, losing all you have worked for in your whole live, not having any type of pleasurable experience, griffths just wanted to die man, he didnt wanted to be seen by his group members in such a disgusting and depradated state. He was weak and lost all the conditions to live by himself, this happening after him being able to achive his biggest victories, and maybe, he even could have become a king. I dont like griffth, he's now a member of Gods Hand, but he has a very, VERY bad past. 1 year of pure torture, many people cant compreehend how much hes been through. When he came out the torture chamber the only thing that passed his mind was suffering, and the only thing he wanted was survival and fulfilling his desires. Thats exactly what he did. He is a manipulator, but giving that much power for a person after that much horror was NOT going to be a pretty thing to see.
I remember before SOTE came out i was so dang sure Miquella was gonna come out in a gay Batman suit at the end after seeing his crazy Griffith arm in the base game.
Miquella is basically Griffith. They both look incredibly similar, and are both manipulative power-hungry individuals. Hell, Miquella even tried to become a god, much like Griffith wanted to have god-like absolute power.
@@acoustic_. I just explained all the ways he is, my guy. I was being hyperbolic when I said they’re the same character. Obviously, they’re not. But there are similarities between the two.
@@Reed5016 calling Miquella power hungry is such a poor judgement of his character. At the end of the day, he believes he is doing the right thing, even sacrificing himself to ascend to godhood. Miquella is completely naive and selfless.
@@acoustic_. He’s still manipulative, and killed a lot of people to achieve godhood. With Griffith, we don’t even know his motivations for seeking power. Maybe he believed it was for the greater good of Midland, or maybe it was selfish. Maybe it was something more twisted. Who knows. What we do know is that Miquella and Griffith both sought god-like power, they both look similar, and they both are manipulative and have done crazy things to obtain that power. Though it can definitely be debated which of them is worse (I’m going on a limb, and saying Griffith is significantly worse).
@@jamestomlin5525 griffiths torture was worse, guts is atleast a functioningperson still, griffith had 0 chance of ever recovering not to mention its implied the torturer raped him
Bro I'm ot tryna be that guy but this is 1000x worse than anything guts has ever felt. Imagine getting your tendons cut, that alone is more than enough to make you feel pain. Not to mention, the torturer probably played with the cut parts too, probably forced him a ton of times and when you get tortured to your face, it's really painful. And he was tortured in the parts where the nervous system is complex. Meaning, he had to experience a lot of pain
Well. Pain. Disfigurement. That's all child's play. What's really up is robbing his voice and strength forever. All his hope to ever be a leader and warrior again.
Just because of that stupid ass king, who can't keep his eyes away from his own daughter and was jealous of another man..... Griffith broke beyond repair and finally chose his deepest and darkest side. Ps: I am not taking Griffith's side either.....
@@souravsarkar4459 after guts left him because he decided to find himself, Griffith went crazy and forced himself on the princess as a way of dominance which angered the king into having him be tortured for a whole year.
All bro had to do was not have a meltdown and sneak in to sleep with a 13 year old princess over his bestfriend wanting to write his own story. Griffith def didn’t deserve to go through what he went through but I’m not exactly sure what he expected.
Not even best friend. Guts may have considered Griffith a friend, but Griffith only ever said and did whatever he needed to get Guts to do what he wanted. Griffith saying he wants an equal as his friend, and inadvertently inspiring Guts to leave him was an example of his manipulation backfiring
Great Message. The part where you mentioned without integrating you’ll never be comfortable in your own skin. Very true. I feel that way as well. It’s also just fun. I am free from my own actions
Oh belive me, given the chance between them and becoming a king, he would do it a heart beat. That's just who he is on the inside, even without all that torture.
Theres a guy i watched called Doc.offcall, who does nice reacts and honest doctor's opinions on injuries, loss of limbs and all vicious strikes and their impact on the body! He even did a video on Griffith's torture
It sucks we will never get to see a proper ending for beserk. The Arthur passed away a couple years recently. Last time I checked the series was incomplete.. 😢
@@MrVimtomelonThat he put himself and them into that situation in the first place, because his fav subordinate wanted to be his own person and all of that was done to be acknowledged as a true friend to Griffith.
Most normal Berserk Experience.
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Least gruesome event in Berserk
Griffith went to sleep first at the sleep over
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No I didn't
@@FEMTO-DARK Nah u did u just doesn't know it yet 🎅🎅🎅🐈
Rookie mistake
He probably also got SA'd by the torturer. "We were like husband and wife"
Exactly. Something that all the readers tend to overlook along with the torture in general. There is literally no body and brain left in the guy. He's scattered. So he acted shitty. Simple as that.
@@firwy9058 yeah, I mean idk about you but I'd probably abandon my own humanity after that.
[EDIT: GUYS I stand corrected. One commenter pointed out that the torturer was carrying a speculum. That is an undeniable indication that I was wrong]
That's just speculation. "Husband and wife" is probably just a metaphor for them being in close proximities
@buttovelli9198 dog it's berserk. Also some victims of sexual assault have a higher chance of commiting sexual assault themselves.
@@omniXenderman yeah still speculation. It wouldn't really explain Griffith's tendencies when he already sa'd the princess prior to his capture. It's clearly a coping mechanism to reclaim a sense of power and dominance, like sa in real life is
Griffith owed 1 cent to the cartel
The zetas got him
lmfao
😂😂😂
“Won’t you to take me to, funkytown?”
Worse the irs
It's also possibly implied that the torturer also SA's Griffith, a quote from the torturer: "We were like husband and wife".
Bro took what he gave
@@terrariaguy216Except that was the first time Griffith was affiliated with SA
@@terrariaguy216better wording might be: 'He gave what he took'
@@NeonPlanes The first time Griffith was associated with sa was when he sold himself to the noble in charge of the judar fortress that we see in the golden age arc it was shown in a flashback after Griffith returned when he was talking to casca how he felt dirty and he converted the emotonal trauma from the sa in to self harm physical pain amd damage being easier to understand and profess then actually confronting the emotions
@@Healthnut69how is thta sa he sold himseld
POV you steal a slice of bread in 1807
Underrated comment 😬
Nah, this is more like medieval times
No 1807 was modern we talking abt 1000 ad
Lol in 1807 they were developing early combustion engines and stuff, people already wore top hats and canes. what are you talking about? Make it 1207 and you are getting closer
And u r black ...
All that cuz of a father in love with his own daughter
Outrageous...
Wait what?
King was in love with his daughter his daughter was in love with grifith so he torture grifith for sleeping with her@@Chartus-ij1rp
@@Chartus-ij1rpGriffith fucked the princess and the king wanted to is what the comment means
@@Chartus-ij1rp the king was in love with his daughter charlotte that's why he is also so aggressive while torturing girffith
"Falsely accused of treason"
Griffith was literally trying to take an insane king's kingdom from him. Granted he was going mad at the idea of Guts abandoning him but he fucked around and found out.
What a weird hoop you jumped over. No one knew what Griffith's ultimate goal was, the King was jealous of Griffith taking his daughter's virginity but couldn't say that so he lied and said treason.
@@AgentshadlingI mean but he did commit treason lol, regardless of how much a freak the king is I think him having the queen, the duke, and the most likely heir Adonis being killed is treason. And having sex with a princess in that day in age without consent of the king is certainly treason lol.
@@thomasfisher7391 again, no one knew it was him that did those things. The King had no grounds, consent of the King didn't matter otherwise he would've used that against Griffith, but he didn't because both Griffith and Charlotte called him out at wanting to have sex with his own daughter.
@@Agentshadling I don’t understand what you’re talking about, him having sex with charlotte the princess is the treason he is accused of. Whether they know about the other things or not is completely irrelevant they are still treason. Having sex with a princess in this age without the consent of the king would absolutely have been considered treason regardless of whether or not the princess was a willing participant.
@@Agentshadling mf acting like medieval kings just let shit slide like a cool high school teacher, they'll find any reason to make you suffer
How that one bro reacts after losing the 10th ranked game in a row
im bro
@@dariusukun2527😏
“Falsely” accused of treason 🤨 ain’t no falsely, that fool was outta pocket
Ikr
Did you read the same thing I did, like seriously the king arrested Griffith because the king had a thing for his own daughter
@@Orcheis_ that fool snuck into the bedroom of the daughter of the king of Midland and thoroughly clapped her cheeks and low key was conspiring I would say that shit was treason to they’re medieval standards 🤷🏽♂️
@@Orcheis_ that's the underlying truth, yes. It's also true that berserk and Midland takes much inspiration from medieval Europe, and the Holy See mimics Christianity. That being said, in medieval Europe if a commoner or even a general (Griffith was both), snuck into the princess chambers and had sex with her, therefore stealing her virginity before she could be married, that would be considered treason. For the king, it would throw the kingdom into a nightmare of political and religious turmoil. So I know the king in berserk was gross and had a thing for his daughter, but even if he didn't he would still do the same and Griffith would still be guilty with said precontext.
I was JUST abt to comment that! Glad, someone did.
"falsely accused of treason" my ass lol
Having s** with the princess might not be treason per se, but the king was not having it
yeah, didnt he like orchestrate the death of a noble and the queen? Also, tried to get the throne through political means and slept with the princess. That's a lot of treasonous action.
Nah it's just politics
@@huynhvuongviet2410true, falsely is just cuz some people get their butt hurt admitting what Griffith truly us
@@CA_786and Guts and the other tried their absolute best to save him and they did succeed in it and after they did their best to be there for Griffith only for him to betray Guts and do horrible stuff to casca infront of Guts and btw Femto is Griffit and Griffith is femto
Man, the word “dystopian” is a MASSIVE understatement of the Berserk world
Edit: It's just medieval times? Yea when there is demons, underworld beings, astral monsters, a carcass mixed with demons and women💀, a literal god tree, and a false messiah who is manipulating humanity
Uhh, that's just medieval times.
There's nothing dystopian about this, people even did worse things than this in the past...
@@nicolabertini2741 ............. No comment, read the manga 😂
I think you're just underestimating the insanity and madness that existed in the medieval times.
@@bruhman2736 @nicolabertini2741 both of you are kinda overestimating the cruelty of medieval times. Rulers still had to make sure that the peasants were happy, as most peasants had arms due to the threat of tyrannical leaders and the fact they made up the majority of the army during wartime. While it still wasn't a good life, it isn't anywhere near as bad as some think it is. (Unless you lost a war, then looting happens and that's as bad as you think it is)
Back then they would make you sit on a big wooden horse shaped like a triangle, tie ropes around your ankles that pulled straight down. Rip you from taint to tophat. If tophats existed during midevil times.
Just to remind you, Guts came back for him, Guts and the gang risked everything to save him, took care of him and never gave up on him, yet after all of that, he was not content with just becoming the Godhand, no, he went to the deepest pits of evil and did that horrible thing to Casca just because. Keep in mind, he couldve become a Godhand member and ressurected his crew, he just didnt because he didnt want to.
Griffith should get the infinite death loop like Diavolo but a million times worse.
He can’t resurrect those who have been branded as sacrifices due to their souls falling into the infinite void of torment with the apostles.
That was the saddest realization I found reading Berserk at 13 years old 😭
You would do the same thing. I get it's neat to think people are mentally tuff enough to do the blessed thing and stay loyal but he was crippled beaten tortured to piss lol it's stay loyal and stay like that or sell out your friends and loved ones and become a literal god who can fly around and be relevant or I suppose be loyal and murmur words spit drool and hobble around. Fuck off lol
@nic1626 yeah :< they'll forever know only pain for all of existence and never know release
It's beyond messed up, damn
@@jamestomlin5525 We don't know if they will get freed or not YET. If the Idea of Evil can be killed, then I don't see why something seemingly derived from his creation should exist.
He would've resurrected them if he was Griffith. That's Femto, like oh my god man there was a transformation that existed that stripped him of all good feelings like care and love. Not to say Griffith saw Casca and Guts get into a relationship while he was being tortured made him actively hate him to a particular extent instead of being apathetic. Not to say Guts was the face of his own psychological torture since it was the only thing that kept him from truly losing himself and having the semblance of consciousness that allowed him to still register and go through the pain and humiliation. At that time the Griffith(who was most likely in shock) just wanted Guts to go away from his mind. I'm just saying, if you think IF you had the power of Femto and were stripped of all good in your soul, you wouldn't do similar if not more horrific things than Femto you're laughably naive. read about the banality of evil.
griffith didnt complete his duolingo lessons
Loaha sehsh😂
Me after finding the person who says “womp womp” to all type of biological being in the verge of death:
Womp womp
jred biting the curb 4k ultra hd
Womp womp
Womp womp
@@jred2day766that womp womp shi corny as hell young bro
Griffith was also castrated, SA'd and a bunch of other gruesome methods of torture. The anime truly doesn't do it enough justice as to the very extent Griffith was made broken.
Was he definitely castrated I remember him trying to hump casca after they freed him
Not just that, his face was implied to be severely damaged as well from Guts reaction when he lifted Griffith’s helmet visor
And by “damaged”, I mean his skin was ripped off his face
Mexican cartels when you owe them a dollar :
😂😂😂
Also they cut his junk off
Man just wanted to be a whole complete person again
He shouldn't have sabotaged his plan by having fun with the princess
@@jred2day766 Guts should have stayed his property.
@@sithlorddread8721 Guts had a fair duel with him and was allowed to leave after he skillfully won
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@@sithlorddread8721these are his fans btw do you hear yourself 😂
I still think that miura wanted to show griffith's face in the end of the story.
Since apostles rivert back to human meaning in the end Griffith would have turned back into the shrivelled body he had before the sacrifice.
Just imagine Griffith laying flat on the ground helplessly while guts is standing over him and then we see his disfigured face for the first time
That’s a good idea ngl
Make bro the president, IMMEDIATELY!
Ty for manga spoilers
Poor innocent guy, I sure hope he doesn't do anything bad in the future
I’m dead from the amount of sarcasm 😭
The scary thing is people really did these kind of things back then. Sometimes even worse
People still do these things
Such things are very common, and part and parcel of a major "religion of Love" back then in the medieval ages(I can't mention it or else my comment gets removed). Removing the "sins" through all kinds of torture, etc. Or invading all other countries that are not a part of this religion, using God as their justification for war. It was a much more cruel time back then, in the middle ages.
@@zanaros2606 You prob mean christian
Mexican cartels are doing it now.
@@Blaidd1298Islam.
Griffith is one of the best written characters I have ever seen in a manga! He is one of my favorite characters to dislike and try to understand. To be honest, I still don’t think I completely understand him. Characters like him can evoke strong emotions in people.
I'm 13 and this is deep
I agree
Finally somebody who sees that Grifith as a complex enough character, to not just be reduced as “the bad guy".
Berserk (just as life itself) is beyond “good and evil".
@@wolfvash22 I think him revenge raping casca makes him a foul fella
@@HudsonSheline He is a indeed very hateable, precisely because it is well written. At first the story presents him as a young ambitious gentleman, but berserk is not a fairy tale with humans just battling evil creatures, it is very realistic as the band of the hawk are not heroes but mercenaries, very likeable and charismatic but murders for a hire.
I don't think the Casca's incident was mainly for revenge but something deeper, I think it was Griffith testing if he had lost enough of his humanity, as the eclipse ritual per se, is how a person sacrifices his humanity for the sake of power.
The torture to which Grifith was subdued is also something to consider (not for the sake of apologize), Grifith was extremely broken, both physically (he was even castrated) and mentally, when the temptation of the behelit was presented, so perhaps Femto as an inhuman being was just testing his regained “manhood” in the worst way posible, not for the sake of vengeance but for a primal instinct of asserting dominance; he was reduced to an almost carcass while the only man that has defeated him was complete and stronger that before.
Griffith could avoid torture by talking his way out but he chose to mock the king
I must have forgotten that part
@@petergeramin7195 It happend in the manga I tihink
He was tortured a bit already, but the king was satisfied with it until Griffith mocked him.
Honestly it was strange to me, why would Griffith, a seasoned general, warrior and expert tactician, not escape sooner in the night after bedding the Princess? In some twisted way it seemed he was deliberately trying to get caught. Guts leaving really made him forget his dream now that I think about it...
"You know nothing of the bottomless malice within the human heart" - Isaac Netero from Hunter x Hunter.
Biblical levels of truth here
The great paradox of man... capable of the most extreme, unamaginable evil. And at the same time capable of the greatest, most profound care and empathy. Man is suffering. And some people chose to use that as an excuse, others as inspiration!!!!
@@themoshpit8341 it is no paradox
Damn bro Griffith also went through a lot...
For the Eclipse to initiate he had to of gone through a traumatic experience where the behelit would find him again
Oh boy you're cooked now
He did it to himself
@@karmacop217i mean the only thing you could say is wether or not it actually was his fault or just destined to happen beyond his control since you saw Conrad and Ubik manipulating him as a child (which tbf could be them manipulating him as an adult in the flashback but maybe they’ve been the old lady all along). But on the other hand Skull Knight and Guts already proved that you can go against Fate so most likely Griffith is just a b*tch and should die anyway
If he kept his emotion in check, then he wouldn't be in the situation. He created a hell of his own making.
I'm so glad Guts rescued him and Griffith got healed as they all lived a happy and peaceful life as friends after.
It’s still on sight whenever I see Griffith
I could not agree more
The amount of people here defending Griffith scares me fr. Like did we read the same manga??
@Sweet_potato402 What you're seeing is the same hat trick pulled off by characters as diverse as Lotor from Voltron: Legendary Defender, and Humbert Humbert from Lolita: be a good-looking/well-spoken/charismatic enough malignant narcissist predator fuckboy, and a significant amount of the population will buy it hook, line, and sinker. This is why we can't have nice things in real life.
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@@Sweet_potato402 it's because he's pretty
Everything that happens to griffith is a direct result of his own choices and words. Like every person needing an ambition.
hus fate us cruel
"falsely" accused of treason 😭😭
Average day in Berserk.
Average underwhelming day as a main character in berserk
After a year of that kind of suffering, not even the strongest people can remain sane.
Guts did
@tommcan Upto lost children arc he is borderline psychopath but after millenium Falcon he genuinely became sane
@@TheOneWhoAsked.637 not saying that guts didn't suffer,but griffith suffered 1 year straight being tortured nasty everyday
@@SHAMIIZEN Bruh u saying like guts didn't nearly die every single day for 2 years? Remember the majesty especially told the torturer to keep Griffith alive. Guts was attacked with the intention to kill.
Intention to kill? better than being tortured for 1ya @@TheOneWhoAsked.637
He was not falsely accused of treason, he litterally invaded the Princess's room and slept with her 💀💀💀
Bruh the princess was in love with him. Griffith was just there because he felt abandoned after Guts left
he did kill the queen or something but how is him sleeping with charlotte treason
@@S.D.323 Imagine youre her father, the king, and on of the maids told that the knight you trusted is naked in the princess room
He definitely spite fckd her, he didn't care anymore after Guts completely toppled his world in that duel
"Look who fell asleep first,prank him jhon"
Its important to note that the only thing that kept him going during that time was guts. Imagine not only being physically tortured, but also mentally, because the only person you can think of is the person that (at least in your opinion) is responsable for all this. In the end it wasn't his dream that burned him, it was his obsession. For him everyone else were pawns. Tools that he can use to achieve his dream. When he realized that his most important tool will not be his pawn anymore, something in him snapped. For him it felt like he was losing control, like his plans are about to fail. Thats why he slept with the princess out of the blue. He searched comfort and wanted to regain the control he lost. He wanted to know that his plans are still working out and that everyone was listening to his will. After he was done he realized that this will not bring guts back, that he is not in control anymore and that his plans did really fail, which scared him.
The anime version sounds like a vacation compared to this
The manga is completely on another level with many taboo things, not a single tv station would touch
After spending a year being tortured, only knowing pain, losing all your human capabilities, living in the dark, losing all you have worked for in your whole live, not having any type of pleasurable experience, griffths just wanted to die man, he didnt wanted to be seen by his group members in such a disgusting and depradated state. He was weak and lost all the conditions to live by himself, this happening after him being able to achive his biggest victories, and maybe, he even could have become a king.
I dont like griffth, he's now a member of Gods Hand, but he has a very, VERY bad past.
1 year of pure torture, many people cant compreehend how much hes been through. When he came out the torture chamber the only thing that passed his mind was suffering, and the only thing he wanted was survival and fulfilling his desires. Thats exactly what he did.
He is a manipulator, but giving that much power for a person after that much horror was NOT going to be a pretty thing to see.
what happens to me and bro after he told the cartel “all bark and no bite” :
watching Beserk before studying medicine ---> watching Beserk after studying medicine. Hits different!
my bro when he gave the hello kitty girl a chance:
I could never forgive him for what he did to Casca
dont rly blame griffith for popping his ult but the actions he did is not redeemable 💀💀💀
Griffith got the funky town treatment
I remember before SOTE came out i was so dang sure Miquella was gonna come out in a gay Batman suit at the end after seeing his crazy Griffith arm in the base game.
Miquella is basically Griffith. They both look incredibly similar, and are both manipulative power-hungry individuals. Hell, Miquella even tried to become a god, much like Griffith wanted to have god-like absolute power.
@@Reed5016Miquella is nothing like Griffith lol
@@acoustic_. I just explained all the ways he is, my guy. I was being hyperbolic when I said they’re the same character. Obviously, they’re not. But there are similarities between the two.
@@Reed5016 calling Miquella power hungry is such a poor judgement of his character. At the end of the day, he believes he is doing the right thing, even sacrificing himself to ascend to godhood. Miquella is completely naive and selfless.
@@acoustic_. He’s still manipulative, and killed a lot of people to achieve godhood. With Griffith, we don’t even know his motivations for seeking power. Maybe he believed it was for the greater good of Midland, or maybe it was selfish. Maybe it was something more twisted. Who knows. What we do know is that Miquella and Griffith both sought god-like power, they both look similar, and they both are manipulative and have done crazy things to obtain that power. Though it can definitely be debated which of them is worse (I’m going on a limb, and saying Griffith is significantly worse).
Least gruesome event in Berserk
still doesnt justify anything he did, not to mention guts went through similar experiences if not worse but is still didnt give up
Nah, guts had it much worse.
Damn... even how he was born was beyond messed up
@@jamestomlin5525 griffiths torture was worse, guts is atleast a functioningperson still, griffith had 0 chance of ever recovering not to mention its implied the torturer raped him
@@feroniks366guts was raped as a child, by donovan
Bro I'm ot tryna be that guy but this is 1000x worse than anything guts has ever felt. Imagine getting your tendons cut, that alone is more than enough to make you feel pain. Not to mention, the torturer probably played with the cut parts too, probably forced him a ton of times and when you get tortured to your face, it's really painful. And he was tortured in the parts where the nervous system is complex. Meaning, he had to experience a lot of pain
Well, no one wins when we play the suffering Olympics.
Well. Pain. Disfigurement. That's all child's play. What's really up is robbing his voice and strength forever. All his hope to ever be a leader and warrior again.
"falsely accused of treason" isn't how I would put it.
Ah yes a Tuesday in the berserk world
Has the best sob story but still find a way to be hated
Wdym “falsely” accused of treason 😭
Sounds like a diddy party
Nah😭
Just because of that stupid ass king, who can't keep his eyes away from his own daughter and was jealous of another man..... Griffith broke beyond repair and finally chose his deepest and darkest side.
Ps: I am not taking Griffith's side either.....
Bro was not falsely accused 💀💀💀
That blew my mind when he said that 😂😭
Right? The hell is wrong with him?😂
Why was he rightfully accused?
@@souravsarkar4459 Sexually abusing the princess, as she clearly didn’t consent
@@souravsarkar4459 after guts left him because he decided to find himself, Griffith went crazy and forced himself on the princess as a way of dominance which angered the king into having him be tortured for a whole year.
All bro had to do was not have a meltdown and sneak in to sleep with a 13 year old princess over his bestfriend wanting to write his own story. Griffith def didn’t deserve to go through what he went through but I’m not exactly sure what he expected.
Not even best friend. Guts may have considered Griffith a friend, but Griffith only ever said and did whatever he needed to get Guts to do what he wanted. Griffith saying he wants an equal as his friend, and inadvertently inspiring Guts to leave him was an example of his manipulation backfiring
Falsely accused man was caught red handed
And ppl still ask why bro wanna wreck havoc💀
Average Tuesday in berserk
I mean, they weren't wrong in accusing him of treason
No wonder he went insane after that 💀
Great Message. The part where you mentioned without integrating you’ll never be comfortable in your own skin. Very true. I feel that way as well. It’s also just fun. I am free from my own actions
Falsely is a reach, he did defile the princess lol.
And orchestrated two assassinations one of which was accidental but still
But is that already Treason?
He had nothing to lose so he went above and beyond to what was the only option for power, becoming Evil at it's finest.
Sounds like something the cartels would do
It's daily thing in medieval times.
Griffith didn't know where the money was
As much I hate to say it I feel sorry for him but that doesn't justify for starting the Eclipse
yes it does
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Nope it doesn't
If it wasn't for this torture Griffith may have never betrayed the hawks, sad he sacrificed them all, guts is now the only one
Oh belive me, given the chance between them and becoming a king, he would do it a heart beat. That's just who he is on the inside, even without all that torture.
Theres a guy i watched called Doc.offcall, who does nice reacts and honest doctor's opinions on injuries, loss of limbs and all vicious strikes and their impact on the body! He even did a video on Griffith's torture
You’re late bro everyone knows
@@griefoflinkocarinaofmajora5159
He can still talk about it.
@@griefoflinkocarinaofmajora5159 no, not everyone, this is my first time hearing about it. Cohenvale thank you for recommendation.
Damn, it's definitely one of the more stressful challenges you've done! Good stuff!
"It's just a prank, bro"
If this shit happened to me, I would also abandon my humanity. I can't blame Griffith
Griffith should get the infinite death loop
As bad as Diavolo was, he didn't deserve eternal suffering
@@lupus-griseo Finally someone said it
It sucks we will never get to see a proper ending for beserk. The Arthur passed away a couple years recently. Last time I checked the series was incomplete.. 😢
Pov: You went to sleep first in the sleepover (rookie mistake)
"False accused"
LOL
He LITERALLY fucked around and found out.
صل على النبي ، واستغفر الله😊
can't blame bro for becoming insane.
Still, i can't justify Griffith's action but i can understand it
u can understand him revenge raping casca? do u need help or smthn?
“Griffith…May your name be forgotten”
Now I understand why people say griifith got the worst pain 💀😦
“falsely accused of treason” is a strong choice of words
“Ay man it is what it is”
falsely accused of treason? Bro was caught in the act
I’d also become a villain.
Fr
Guts never became a villain, and he suffered his entire life, not just a year
@@moty333 Griffith is worse
@@CSWdenji69 You’re right. In terms of morals, Griffith is much, much worse. Glad we agree
@@moty333are you unstable ?
Ok now I think I get why Griffith eventually turned out that way.
That was too merciful
bro got the funky town experience💀
"Falsely accused for treason"
DO NOT FREE THIS BOY, I REPEAT. DO NOT FREE THIS BOY.
Funky town incident ahh torture
Esdeath will be proud of this
Just regular berserk things honestly
“Falsely accused” if he hadn’t slept with the damn princess he’d have his dream.
False accused? Bro went and got freaky
Can’t even blame Griffith for what he did after that
I still despise him.
No wonder he doesn't have any humanity left in him
Damn poor grifith no wonder he became a villain i dont hate him no more 😢
He sacrificed the ones who saved him
@@MrVimtomelonThat he put himself and them into that situation in the first place, because his fav subordinate wanted to be his own person and all of that was done to be acknowledged as a true friend to Griffith.
They can never make me hate you griffith 🥹
Tf you mean falsely accused he knew what he was doing
It definitely was not a false accusation of treason