Confused on dearth of RUclips content. All these Tom Platz videos I see in my feed lately seem to say to lift with with more of a vertical back to target the glutes. I don't have that ankle ROM, so I typically lift with squat wedges to get the depth and try to stay more vertical.
Hey Brent - thanks for the comment. Tom was a bodybuilder - and a great one - so he was generally interested in training to develop certain muscle groups. At Testify, we coach people to get strong - that's our goal. With that in mind, we coach lifters to use movements that use a lot of muscle mass over a long range of motion, and because of this, these movements also allow us to move a lot of weight (over time of course as an appropriate starting point is important), which helps us get strong in a very efficient manner. All this to say, we're not interested in targeting a specific muscle group - we use lifts that use all of the muscle groups, and as that movement gets stronger, all the muscle groups associated with that lift get stronger because of it. Put simply, we train movements, not muscles. You are welcome to do whatever you like, of course, but if I were to recommend a next step, I'd recommend checking out our "How to Start Lifting: Learn to Squat" video (ruclips.net/video/iDWIeTVoGG8/видео.html) and then checking out our playlist of squat videos (ruclips.net/p/PLvHG99sd-DGjoJ_qfwOeYM9rAYb2wgCXY) for help on specific issues associated with the squat. I think you'll appreciate the method of squatting that we're advocating, and you'll find that you can get a nice, long range of motion better this way than when trying to stay as vertical as possible. Hope this helps!
If you want realy big big quads dont lean over use ssb bar or do front squats platz style for lower back and hammstring do good morinings or rdl it's a much better way than doing low bar squats
Thanks César! It's not a specific program (i.e., it doesn't have a name or anything like that), but I squat twice a week, and my heavy day (the day you saw in this video) right now rotates through squat, pause squat, and pin squat (in this video) and consists of a top single followed by some back-off triples.
Indeed I do. The recommendation that I would have along with that is to actually read it. That sounds obvious, but most people usually jump right to the sample programs and pick one and start one. Those are merely intended to serve as examples. The key is to understanding all the stuff that comes before that (physiology, response to training stress, etc.), and over time, you develop the ability to develop your programming. Most good programming changes should be small changes to your program, not wholesale ones.
Thanks. I only train main lifts once a week. Except the bench presd that i do it 2 times per week. but i do have 1 year and 2 months training so soon i will have to start tweaking my program because my double progression will stop working.thanks again
Great video. What's the cue for the bar rolling forward towards neck due to the explosive hip drive? Lifting chest early kills the hip drive but staying leaned over will make the bar move towards neck when the hip drive is more than required? Is there any cue for ideal hip drive?
Thanks very much. If the bar is rolling forward, there are a couple of possible issues. One could be the bar's position on the back - if it's a bit too low, it tends to slide down during the set, and if it's a bit high, it tends to roll upward (the problem you mentioned). We have a video that covers nailing the bar position, so this may help: Bar Position in the Squat ruclips.net/video/wVShiXRo9r8/видео.html Another issue is a general lack of tightness during the setup (i.e., before you unrack the bar). Be sure the chest is out, shoulders are back, and the bar is extremely secure before you stand the bar up. It should take work to get into the correct position. Here's a short video that covers this issue: How to Squat: The Setup | STOP Doing This! ruclips.net/video/QZpqpwdP9Bc/видео.html Finally, there is the problem of exaggerating the hip drive. It's not as common as the first two issues, but it does happen. In this case, we might need to cue the person to "raise the chest" as they come up out of the hole or "drive the bar up" and not think about hip drive. This is not usually what we want, and it's never what we'd cue a new lifter, but in the case of someone who has this issue, they already know how to drive their hips and are actually doing it to the detriment of the rest of their body coming up, so we sometimes will use an overcue like this. It's usually accompanied by a "nobody else pay attention to what I'm telling this person" comment to the rest of the gym :-). Hope this helps!
It depends on your end goal, if its to lift more weights for the sake of it, be my guest, lean over as much as you want, but if you want well developed quads, i think im with the quadfather.
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Terrific explanation of the purpose of the back angle.
Thanks, Michael!
That was great
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Confused on dearth of RUclips content. All these Tom Platz videos I see in my feed lately seem to say to lift with with more of a vertical back to target the glutes. I don't have that ankle ROM, so I typically lift with squat wedges to get the depth and try to stay more vertical.
Hey Brent - thanks for the comment. Tom was a bodybuilder - and a great one - so he was generally interested in training to develop certain muscle groups. At Testify, we coach people to get strong - that's our goal. With that in mind, we coach lifters to use movements that use a lot of muscle mass over a long range of motion, and because of this, these movements also allow us to move a lot of weight (over time of course as an appropriate starting point is important), which helps us get strong in a very efficient manner.
All this to say, we're not interested in targeting a specific muscle group - we use lifts that use all of the muscle groups, and as that movement gets stronger, all the muscle groups associated with that lift get stronger because of it. Put simply, we train movements, not muscles.
You are welcome to do whatever you like, of course, but if I were to recommend a next step, I'd recommend checking out our "How to Start Lifting: Learn to Squat" video (ruclips.net/video/iDWIeTVoGG8/видео.html) and then checking out our playlist of squat videos (ruclips.net/p/PLvHG99sd-DGjoJ_qfwOeYM9rAYb2wgCXY) for help on specific issues associated with the squat.
I think you'll appreciate the method of squatting that we're advocating, and you'll find that you can get a nice, long range of motion better this way than when trying to stay as vertical as possible.
Hope this helps!
If you want realy big big quads dont lean over
use ssb bar or do front squats
platz style
for lower back and hammstring do good morinings or rdl it's a much better way than doing low bar squats
Great video phil¡ how many times you squat per week? What program do you follow?
Thanks César! It's not a specific program (i.e., it doesn't have a name or anything like that), but I squat twice a week, and my heavy day (the day you saw in this video) right now rotates through squat, pause squat, and pin squat (in this video) and consists of a top single followed by some back-off triples.
Thanks man. Do you recommend thr book practical programming?
Indeed I do. The recommendation that I would have along with that is to actually read it. That sounds obvious, but most people usually jump right to the sample programs and pick one and start one. Those are merely intended to serve as examples. The key is to understanding all the stuff that comes before that (physiology, response to training stress, etc.), and over time, you develop the ability to develop your programming. Most good programming changes should be small changes to your program, not wholesale ones.
Thanks. I only train main lifts once a week. Except the bench presd that i do it 2 times per week. but i do have 1 year and 2 months training so soon i will have to start tweaking my program because my double progression will stop working.thanks again
You’re very welcome.
Great video. What's the cue for the bar rolling forward towards neck due to the explosive hip drive? Lifting chest early kills the hip drive but staying leaned over will make the bar move towards neck when the hip drive is more than required? Is there any cue for ideal hip drive?
Thanks very much. If the bar is rolling forward, there are a couple of possible issues. One could be the bar's position on the back - if it's a bit too low, it tends to slide down during the set, and if it's a bit high, it tends to roll upward (the problem you mentioned). We have a video that covers nailing the bar position, so this may help:
Bar Position in the Squat
ruclips.net/video/wVShiXRo9r8/видео.html
Another issue is a general lack of tightness during the setup (i.e., before you unrack the bar). Be sure the chest is out, shoulders are back, and the bar is extremely secure before you stand the bar up. It should take work to get into the correct position. Here's a short video that covers this issue:
How to Squat: The Setup | STOP Doing This!
ruclips.net/video/QZpqpwdP9Bc/видео.html
Finally, there is the problem of exaggerating the hip drive. It's not as common as the first two issues, but it does happen. In this case, we might need to cue the person to "raise the chest" as they come up out of the hole or "drive the bar up" and not think about hip drive. This is not usually what we want, and it's never what we'd cue a new lifter, but in the case of someone who has this issue, they already know how to drive their hips and are actually doing it to the detriment of the rest of their body coming up, so we sometimes will use an overcue like this. It's usually accompanied by a "nobody else pay attention to what I'm telling this person" comment to the rest of the gym :-).
Hope this helps!
@@TestifySC Thanks a lot 🙂
You're welcome!
Are there still fitness magazines? Just go into an asain squat without weight, your back should move in that motion when weighted
There are indeed :-)
Low bar vs high bar. Neither is better than the other. Just different flavors of the same movement.
Tom Platz thinks otherwise. He says that people lean forward too much.
It depends on your end goal, if its to lift more weights for the sake of it, be my guest, lean over as much as you want, but if you want well developed quads, i think im with the quadfather.
@@alexworm1707 Thats correct! it depends on your goal....strength or muscle building
Tom Platz is talking about highbar squats. This vid is about lowbar. Both are right