I actually cut out a part of the video for the sake of brevity and such where I talked about the demise of compliant forks when disc brakes and carbon got together and had children....children we ride today. So I hear ya. But your solution has limitations for almost anyone who bought a new bike designed around a carbon fork, both for weight concerns, visual integrity (how it looks), and overall balance of the bike as the designer intended. Only Ritchey seems to care about ride quality, even with a carbon fork. So your point is well taken, but also somewhat irrelevant for most anyone in the market. The Shock Stop stem might be a gimmick, but it a very, very good one.
It's NOT A GIMMICK. Try it before you comment.. Before , I would assure anyone that titanium and steel forks will dampen road vibrations until I got the CaneCreek eesilk...the comfot it provides by the end of the day after a very long gravel ride would surpass your expectation. These are the only gravel bike products that are worth investing on. The suspension seatposts, are a matter of preference...but suspension stems are a must if you ride gravels unless you get yourself a suspension fork. I tried RedShift but it's very annoying when you change polymers inside.
Yup, I concur too. "Gimmick" has become a smear word for products like this and the lauf fork that some just write off. Both do an excellent job of reducing unwanted chatter and vibration. More so than either "pneumatic suspension" or fork material, ime.
@@pchykins6680 My gravel bike is a 1975 Miele Pro, has a modern group set as I cannot climb like I used to. I have a suspension seat post, because of my lower back arthritis. Never had the need for anything else, bike is wonderfully compliant. Still ride 50 km a day, with the occasional 200 km ride. For me disk brakes on a road, or gravel bike is useless, cannot possibly use that much braking power on thin tires. Been riding for over 50 years, I have tried modern bike, do not think that much of them, except for modern mtb's they are far superior.
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I just use steel, or titanium forks, problem solved. No gimmicks required.
I actually cut out a part of the video for the sake of brevity and such where I talked about the demise of compliant forks when disc brakes and carbon got together and had children....children we ride today.
So I hear ya.
But your solution has limitations for almost anyone who bought a new bike designed around a carbon fork, both for weight concerns, visual integrity (how it looks), and overall balance of the bike as the designer intended. Only Ritchey seems to care about ride quality, even with a carbon fork.
So your point is well taken, but also somewhat irrelevant for most anyone in the market.
The Shock Stop stem might be a gimmick, but it a very, very good one.
It's NOT A GIMMICK. Try it before you comment.. Before , I would assure anyone that titanium and steel forks will dampen road vibrations until I got the CaneCreek eesilk...the comfot it provides by the end of the day after a very long gravel ride would surpass your expectation. These are the only gravel bike products that are worth investing on. The suspension seatposts, are a matter of preference...but suspension stems are a must if you ride gravels unless you get yourself a suspension fork.
I tried RedShift but it's very annoying when you change polymers inside.
Yup, I concur too. "Gimmick" has become a smear word for products like this and the lauf fork that some just write off. Both do an excellent job of reducing unwanted chatter and vibration. More so than either "pneumatic suspension" or fork material, ime.
@@pchykins6680 My gravel bike is a 1975 Miele Pro, has a modern group set as I cannot climb like I used to. I have a suspension seat post, because of my lower back arthritis. Never had the need for anything else, bike is wonderfully compliant. Still ride 50 km a day, with the occasional 200 km ride.
For me disk brakes on a road, or gravel bike is useless, cannot possibly use that much braking power on thin tires.
Been riding for over 50 years, I have tried modern bike, do not think that much of them, except for modern mtb's they are far superior.
No steel or ti fork comes close to giving the compliance a redshift stem does.