Road Vs Gravel: Which Bike Is Better?
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Strade Bianche has quickly become one of the most popular bike races around, mixing tough terrain with epic scenery and, of course, the infamous gravel! But which bike is really best to take it on; gravel bike or road bike? Ollie and Manon are in Tuscany to ride the entire route and find out!
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Felt Mannons pain there, good on. Ollie's enthusiasm could get anyone up a hill I reckon 👌
We've all been there! sometimes the last 10k feel like 100!
17:30: Ollie discussing the bikes, meanwhile Manon was probably joining me in wondering "How is he still talking?!" 🤣
Awesome accomplishment for both, and Congrats Manon on a new longest ride 😀
200km next? or going straight for 250? (keep setting those targets/challenges!)
I bet this route was 3 times as hard as 250 km on a relatively flat course would have been, so much climbing, utterly bad surface, chapeau Manon, Chapeau!
Manon crushed this ride. So much respect for her fighting through and being a champ for women cyclists. Watching this video convinced me to try my longest ever ride this spring. Well done Manon!
Inspired me aswell. She is a legend. From track to Strada Bianchi....fair play to her
Manon is undeniably a beast.
Manon is an inspiration to us all! I really wish there were more women involved with cycling!!
I used to think they were saying "man on!" As in cyclist behind you (wheel sucker) about to pass.
Well done Olli, you did us men proud and it was a pleasure to watch you and full respect from men everywhere. You are a good ambassador for men cyclists everywhere. You are a king among men.
There is something incredibly emotional and inspiring about seeing someone really pushing the limits. Incredible job Ollie. As for Manon, there was a real beauty in that colossal effort, thanks for the inspiration!!
For those conditions a plush big slick tire, like the 40c challenge strada bianca or panaracer gravelking on the gravelbike should be the best choice. you loose almost nothing in terms of rolling efficiency and road handling, yet gain loads of comfort on the gravel and cobble sections.
Deffo a Panaracer GK SK would be a much better all rounder choice for Ollie there.
Yes. Definitely wouldn't have chosen a tyre with any tread for this ride. Tread is only of use in mud, doesn't do much in sand or gravel. (Maybe if it was wet…)
Ya second for the challenge Strada Bianchi...I run those in a 36mm tubeless tubular as my all rounder setup.... amazing on gravel but equally good on the road
Don't need tread. 40mm overkill. 33 fine.
Pretty sure you lose something in terms of rolling resistance on the roads
Manon is a beautiful amazing beast of a bicyclist. Both still smiling after all that, Bravo !!!
Amazing effort from Manon to ride the men's pro course! Brutal.
And once again, let's appreciate how fit Ollie is, when Manon was shattered, he was still standing up tall, no slouch or tired shoulders etc. Amazing how fit he is, which again highlights what freaks pro cyclists are that they make him look slow!
The most charismatic presenters on GCN. Dan, you come right after! But these two could make a 3h long video and we would still watch it all! Congrats,
This was an amazing ride!!
I think Mannon and Hank are a great combo too!
Hank is much better, Manon not so.
Ollie: Fair play, Manon
Manon: #@!&* Ow
I don't think I've ever related to Manon more
Always amazes me that you guys don't use gloves or hand covering. I literally never ride without.
If I don't wear gloves my hands get sticky on the hoods.
I can see losing the gloves when it's warm out, but if it's cold enough to wear tights and arm warmers, my hands would be freezing. I couldn't stand riding bare handed at 5 degrees C.
Which kind of bike would you ride on the Strade Bianche route 👀 ? Let us know down below 👇
Vintage L’Eroica style bike
Now that was an epic ride! Really well done, all around. Bravo GCN, bravo!
Well done to both of you for taking Strade Bianchi on and completing the whole of the men's course. Massive kudos to Mannon for achieving several personal bests with aplomb. Very inspirational.
Gravel set up for road is the way to go. I have a racy road bike that I take out for group rides when I don't want to get dropped, especially when there are climbs. But my TI gravel bike with 35mm Rene Herse slicks on ENVE 3.4 ARs is my bike of choice for training, street riding, and a little gravel here and there. I look forward to putting some knobbies on and doing some singletrack or fire roads one day. But right now, it's a two wheel SUV that never leaves the street. SO COMFY!
Congratulations to her, need to have her on here more , that was awesome!
Way to conquer and hit new high marks, Manon! I do wish wed been shown more of her pushing through the struggles though. So inspirational. 👊
Great ride Manon! I've thought about building a gravel bike, but this video has convinced me that my road bike with 28MM tires is probably the best choice. It does feel a bit "skittery" on the gravel though. I have to take it easy, especially on turns. Great video GCN Team.
Thanks David! A gravel bike build sounds fun but 28s should be fine over smoother gravel!
This reminds me of my first 100k with 1.4k meters of climbing a couple of weeks ago. Still have some catching up to do to manon. hats off!
Firstly thank You for that epic videos. Hells of classics.
Note: Everybody likes Mr. Ollie presenter
Can tell Manon is hard as nails, no gloves on gravel in Feb!
Don't know when it has been recorded, we've seen 20 degrees too :)
Well done, GCN. A wise move to give Manon the least suitable bike thus saving Ollie from getting dropped on the radio bike. Great ride, Manon incredible to think that l’Eroica has 20km more of the same roads and is ridden on pre-1987 bikes with 19mm tires and huge gears!
imho, should have gone for 32mm slicks.
And hey, Olly didn't get dropped :)
Wow, what a hero(ine) Manon is! Total inspiration. Go girl!
I love you both and kudos to you Manon for the super efforts to get that ride done. I know I couldn't have done it.
Well done Manon and kudos to you both - what a day in the saddle - great viewing, thanks!
Awesome effort Manon. And wow, Ollie's a beast.
They both put in a massive effort
Man on is an absolute legend. Chapeau lady. Chapeau
Absolutely great job, especially for Manon 👍
Wow congratulations! Manon's effort and Ollie's narrative were both well worth watching. The sun drenched pastoral scenery was a pleasant backdrop. I will never ride it but I throughly enjoyed watching the two of these cover the distance...
Kudos to you both. Epic ride.
Great support for each other on a very tough day! Well done to both, big shout out to Manon for her biggest day, and for those smiles at the end when everything hurt.
I can’t think a ride i would like to do more. Great video. Just amazing! Love the bikes, the parkour, the scenery!!!
Great ride Manon, well done!! 😀
The Strade Bianche is a great race. Props to the presenters for covering this percorso. In this video, I would have liked our rider/presenters to acknowledge that the race itself was partly the result of efforts to establish l'Eroica, which began in 1997. Many of the roads over which the race, and our presenters, travel have been preserved by the efforts of l'Eroica organizers. And, to ride l'Eroica, participants cover these roads on steel bikes from 1987 and before. A great effort regardless of the bike being ridden. Any ride that includes Monte Santa Maria is going to tough.
Neither bike has the right tyres. Ollie's is over-tyred, Manon should have 32c slick gravel tyres.
Yup. Would have loved to see Terreno Dry tires on Ollie's bike.
Think you may have missed the point of the video.
Challenge Strada Bianca comes in those sizes(30 & 33mm and 36mm). Would have been the right tire on each bike.
the point was to show the difference. ollie should have used larger slicker tires.
Awesome job Manon & Oli
here's to the power of the snickers bar and Olis enthusiasm
Hope you enjoyed it!
Seriously impressed with both of you. Manon in particular. Am doing the ''Tuscany Trail'' in May this year and I suspect it will be just as tough but almost 3 times longer at 475 km. Me and my buddy are both riding with gravel tyres.
What a great ride that would be, Thank you for sharing. Manon... You rocked it! I cant wait for my next long ride!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is so good! Thanks for making these amazing videos and Manon, way to go!!! Both of you guys are amazing. 🙌🏻🔥 Greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽
Thanks, Miguel! We're glad you enjoyed it!
Ollie's reaction to Manon at 1:27 is epic. He looks proper shocked.
Great watch. Thanks both
Glad you enjoyed it!
Rode the Strade Bianche Gran Fondo a couple of years ago.... Epic! Beautiful route & well organised! I loved it! Chapeau indeed to Manon! That's a long, long ride, with some steep, punchy gravel climbs. The final climb into Sienna is kinda always on your mind.... It's a killer, but once there, it's a steady ride to the Piazza. Great to see some GCN 'Science' on-the-move there ;-) Nice one, Ollie!
That final climb into Sienna really is one of the most iconic in cycling!
@@gcn Via Santa Catarina, I seem to recall! 'Paper-boyed' it all the way :-P
Go Manon !
My longest solo was last year @58 yo is 178 kms. Will do this solo ride this year for 200 kms.
Thanks - and that's a big one, good luck!
Wow, another cool video about 2 great types of bike ever (together with TT bikes) that I've found. We all love you, guys. But honestly, dear Mannon, we love you a lot more!!!!!🥰😍
17:55 Ollie merrily explains the bike's versatility...meanwhile Manon in the back is about to fall flat face down😀
Riding those bikes, on that course, and being laid to do it. What a job! Well done on completing it - it’s definitely high on my bucket list of rides
Congratulations Mannon! Amazing accomplishment
Fantastic effort Manon and coach Ollie with brilliant encouragement xx
you guys really have the best job in the world.
Great looking bikes. Great video. I’d love to ride that route, but I think I would need an E-Bike lol.
Well done to both participants. To me, the tangible is...gravel...even this mild gravel stuff, just beats up a rider more. It isn't the watts difference which isn't much as noted, it was Manon's comment about getting beaten up. Getting beaten up contributes to fatigue and inability to put down the watts. Manon I believe would have done better on a gravel bike because her body would have felt better later into the ride.
Thanks for bringing us along. I would want to do that ride on a gravel bike with smoothish tires because the gravel isn't pronounced and with very short gears to get up those grueling climbs.
Chapeau to you both, another brilliant video. That was a ballsey ride from both, don't know how you're going to top that. 👌🏻
Hell of the North Cotswolds event has the same effect on your legs if you ride the thing under prepared lol.. Those grinding slow roads are a mental battle. The girl did well.
Everything's better with Manon. What a fun video.
Great film! Congrats! Can’t wait to watch the race!
Super impressive ride guys. Chapeau to both of you.
Thank you
Slick in the center knobbed to the edges would rectify the problem with rolling resistence and yet cornering would be better more grip
Well done you two, great film. I love these European trips gcn does. Keep them coming 💥💥
Thank you! We're glad you enjoy them!
9:37 this comment from Ollie the aero king to Manon, is very right. Lovely Manon is just sheer aero. While I don't use the bike for speed, nor I use aero clothes or equipment any watt I can save is welcome. In that sense I think aero is superb important even for newbies like me
lots of respect for both of you, especially Manon. Amazing effort
Thank you!
Fair play Manon! I couldn't probably do even half of that course in a single session!
We have both those stunning Wilier bikes in stock at Destination Bike!😎
Way to go, Manon and Ollie. And thank you for posting the route.
I love Manon, & the Weilers are gorgeous
I use the Pirelli Cinturado gravel H in 35 mm which are quite fast on pavement and harder packed gravel. I use them almost exclusively on mixed surfaces. I’m sure Manon is lighter requiring less power to keep her rolling. Great ride Manon! I hope you had some awesome Italian food after that ride!
So much respect for CX endurance riders
Well done, this one looked relentless.
a bianchi with CV..... but team bike exchange swapped for those halfords specials :)
Much respect Manon! That is a LONG ride.
Fair play manon! With a track background you're really doing so well on road!
Great ride Manon! And Oli! Xx
Thank you! 😀
I was in my peak physical shape 12 years ago in cycling and recovered a bit of it recently by riding consistently for a year. I still can't do what Manon and Ollie did on any bike given to me. Nope. I really tried to get into that challenge and I managed to only do a little over 50 miles or so. I am not built for it
Well done Manon. You inspire me
Manon, amazing ride 👊. Congrats to you for doing it!!! Way to go, Ollie!
I feel with Manon, that was a huge step from her. I guess I had a very similar experience last year when in March I did my first 200+km ride, in June first 300+km (and 200+mi) then in August my first ever 400+km ride.
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@@danielstorey2027 Cheers! :D
Chapeau Manon and Ollie....that was very cool . Peace
Manon, wow. Simply wow!! Bet the day after was even harder to move! :-)
Great video kids! Hats off to the young Manon for having the courage to get out there a suffer in the name of road bikes!
Very impressive ride by both. Manon’s grit is truly inspiring.
Thank you very much!
7:30 Ollie just chatting away on a 14% climb while all you could hear is Mamon pending like a dog haha
Great video! Great job Manon you crushed it 200%!
I think the secret to completing long rides is Snickers bars. Chocolate, peanuts, caramel, nougat. It is just the energy boost needed to complete that last 10km. Saved me on many an endurance ride.
Bloody good effort for a track sprinter!!
Well done Manon!
Great Ride Manon!!
Yes Manon, I was practically cheering you to the end there, incredible longest ride!
A great effort!
Tears of joy for Manon! Awesome
Great Video but what I want to know is.... What was the average watts for the complete course for both bikes - assuming they both completed in the same time / distance - there should be a direct comparison to be made as to which bike required the lesser effort, assuming that the rider / bike combination weights were "almost" the same..
I though that was the original datum point you were looking for when I started watching the video, but was left hanging at the end............ ???
Epic!!! Dr. Bridgewood just dropped Manon!!! Well that's one for the GCN book. Yet I can't believe Manon just chased Ollie in the tarmac back then! Mental! Nice show GCN but then that jalopy moped filming sure is annoying with its antequated motor. Does it have to be that and not something modern or that's already modern?😆✌
Coming from the MTB world, I‘d go for a gravel tire on the front and the widest road tire on the back (tubeless and maybe with the Vittoria liner). The front is where you need the grip and the back is where most of the rolling resistance comes from.
Vittoria liner are crap for road and gravel. They are ok for MTB maybe but no interest if you dont ride big rocks, jumps etc... those rides can hit the rim so a liner can save a wheel. On gravel, or road you don't really jump, ride big rocks a liner is useless. And if you puncture, its almost impossible to repair on the road to put an inner tube
@@simonpeneau7802 I thought about that from the pro racing perspective. You want to have the possibility to ride to the end of the sector if you puncture.
@@chrisridesbicycles ho ok i see, yes it is a good solution to join the next mechanics with new wheels with less waste of time.
I hesitate for my gravel/cx bike, i use tubeless 33mm and ride on mtb tracks with it, and after "investigation" the conclusion was : it's not a good solution.
@@simonpeneau7802 For „home use“, a lot of the things used in the pro peloton don‘t make sense. I can live with 2 watts more wind resistance if I can have grip tape on the tops for example.
Manon is my hero!!!! Well done!
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Love your videos (all of them)
Which ever, ever bike Manon is riding/cycling is the best bike. 👍
Oh my, well done you pair 👍
HEY GCN, I HAVE QUESTION FOR YOU REGARDS ROADS BIKE SPOKES AND RIMS
1) ARE STILL RIMS ARE BETTER FOR ROAD BIKE ?
2) HOW MANY SPOKES SHOULD BE THERE IN A ROAD BIKE FOR BETTER SPEED AND LIGHTWEIGHT ??
Goodonya to both of you but a special shout out to Manon for a super fantastic effort and determination.
Manon have found a new respect for Oli as many sure must ... Dropped Oli jokes are on those how still don't acknowledge how good Oli is and still improve himself when he is on the saddle. Kudos to Manon, and massive Kudos to Oli for not drop Manon out there... chapeau!
Manon you did so well. Great effort 👊🏻😁
First and foremost. Great job to both of you. Also good job explaining the difference in the bikes.
A question 🙋♂️
Wouldn’t a more accurate and complete comparison of the bikes be if both of you had ridden part of the course on each bike? As it is this is a comparison of two different people on two different bikes.
That being said I do believe you have given a fair assessment of the differences.
Such a great job!! How many days to recover?
Nice one Manon!!
Can't believe Ollie's level of fitness! Doesn't even look or sound like he done any distance at all! I'm nearly spent after 100k so respect!!