Thanks to the tip from @parawizard I was able to determine what codecs were being used (with my Samsung S24 Ultra). According to my phone, just AAC and SBC were supported with the Porta Pro's. Samsung is known to be stingy with what codecs it will support, but, my phone does support AptX, which was greyed out as supported with the Porta Pro's. Still not sure just how big of a deal that is but wanted to report on it.
That's disappointing. I'm used to have AptxHD on both my big Sony headphones and Anker Bluetooth speaker. SBC is crappy and I thought AAC is thing of the past too. 🙄I forgot my Porta pro on bus just 2 weeks ago, so I was excited about getting wireless ones, but 100USD, 110USD in my country and not getting AptXHD nor LDAC? That's disappointment. Also wonder about battery test. The guy in video seem to just believe whatever spec says, not actually measuring it. I wonder if there's Porta pro alternative with the better codecs support.
@@EsoRimmer 👋 guy in the video here. The battery is legit. I've finally drained it down and had to charge it. About 22ish hours. I'm sure volume could play a factor to the length. Codecs, it's tough, but when I switched my phone to SBC it did improve the sound quality. Very close to what my wired porta pros sound like out of my phone.
@@Skeeb23another reviewer had the same issue. They also had better result with SBC and found the sound slightly better plugged in than wireless. Still I cannot go back to cord so this might be my entry to koss.
@@Skeeb23 That's strange. AAC should sound better than SBC I think. Also with my Sony headphones there's big difference in sound quality on Windows depending on whether the headphones are connected (through Bluetooth, SBC) as headphones or headset. In headset mode the quality drops noticeably and I think it's because part of the bandwidth is reserved for microphone, so there's less bandwidth left for the headphones.
@@EsoRimmer agreed it's strange, but legit sounds better with SBC. I didnt use these on my PC. Connection gets spotty with BT at times on Windows PC. So this was all through my android Samsung phone.
I've been a Porta Pro fan for like 10-12 years now so I understood when you started taking out all your different versions! I owned the original "wireless" Porta Pros, and I literally just placed an order for the new pair just now, I even got the Yaxi Pads! I'm legitimately excited to try them out.
I remember selling what I know must been the very first incarnation back around 84 . I worked for curry’s back then , I wasn’t that impressed by them or any of the headphones we stocked at that time , none of them had much depth or life to their sound .
Star-Lord (Chris Pratt) gonna be rocking these in the next Guardians film. I'm def gonna give these a try. I've been looking for a pair of hp to get away from my wireless iem's as I can't stand iem's.
Hi Skeeb. I tried to like them because I LOVE Koss. I always wonder why people including audiophiles feel like they have to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars when you can just get the KSC75s or KPH40s for basically free and call it a day. My point. After using these wireless which were sounding muffled, I immediately threw on my KSC75s. It is night and day. What a difference. The KSC75s are sooo good. And again, they cost nothing. As much as I hate to do it, I have to return these wireless portas. My apologies to Koss. The company is still awesome.
These are tempting! Not crazy about the price increase over the wired version though. I am wondering if there’s any lag when watching videos. That’s something that I wished you had covered in this review! Hope they do the same thing with the KSC75!
Noticed some lag initially with mine, but think it has to do with device switching. If you do a fresh pairing when connecting to a device it’s not an issue
Looks great ! But for home I have wired "no compromise" earphones. And for outside I have wireless buds, which are 10x smaller, and whatever worse sound quality will be offset by lack of noise cancel. So I guess these might be useful when moving around the house .. where light open earphones are useful. Maybe even jogging in park. But meta shifted. Portas are not so portable anymore. Or at least the competition is more portable.
@@DrSid42 lately that's what I've been doing. Wearing them while around the house, cleaning up or just laying in bed at night scrolling. I get to hear my kids because of being open nature. All comes down to use case.
The (assumed) lack of aptX decreases my excitement. I have the 1.0 wireless (and the usual collection of wired portapros, KPHs, KSCs, etc.), which has (standard) aptX, and it's a massive quality improvement from the old school SBC codec. Koss's spec sheet says this uses Bluetooth 5.2, which should/can include the LC3 codec (the quality of which is controversial at best), but it's not mentioned anywhere. Why is the list of codecs supported for this such a secret?
I'm not into how a headphone is designed around BT, so I have no idea why the codecs were not released. I tried to find out, but was told just standard. Hopefully they will decide to release a bit more info on that soon.
@@Skeeb23 I've heard they support AAC/SBC which is a common thing in TWS IEMs nowadays. AAC is ok-ish but having AptX would be great since usual suspects in BT 5.2 world have the hardware capability to support it.
I don't think the compression is a problem for the sound-quality. The amplification is not very good in such a tiny headphones. But it's the price you pay for true wireless Koss Porta Pro.
I just ordered some Jlab rewinds in hope they would be somewhat close to my portapros, but wireless, for my gaming rig. I should have known better. They are complete trash, even the button rattles when you move. I will be returning them and ordering these. Thanks for the detailed review!
No multi-connect sucks. One of the best features of newer headphones when you want to be connected to your phone and notebook at the same time :( Should be easily possible with BT5.2?
@@cionheart tbh, I've always had issues with multi connect. Some devices do it well, some are terrible with it. I'm worried if they had it may have been the latter.
Listening to this review on my wired PortaPotty Pro with Yaxi pads, and the first thing I notice are the Yaxi pads in the first second. Those do look very tempting, plus I have a spare pair of Yaxi pads in a drawer around here somewhere, but $100 is a pretty steep ask for these. What I'm worried most about these is that they can't be opened nondestructively, which means at some point that battery will die and stay dead.
@@RAHelllord true, but that is the biggest negative with all truly portable devices, the battery life expectancy. However, these have passthrough so at least there is still a wired option after it dies. Assuming however long they hold up
@@Skeeb23 Hopefully! Assuming the device will actually power on with a fully dead battery. Also, I forgot to ask, did you try touching both steel bands with your fingers to see what happens while music is playing? I'm curious if that would have any impact on the functionality considering they're basically two blank metal wires.
This seems to be a great product! I have a pair of Ksc75 and I love it, how will u compare the sound character between the New KOSS Porta Pro Wireless and the Ksc75? Thanks!
@@ykchan917 the ksc75 is the same driver, but, lighter in bass. I'm sure due to the clip on nature. The ksc75 is probably a bit better in midrange and treble clarity over the porta pro. Again, literally due to the clamp, fit and placement. Personally, I don't care for the ksc75 because of being bass light, but I know many love it!
@@parawizard brilliant - thank you! So according to my Samsung S24 Ultra - the only Bluetooth Codec options are AAC and SBC. AptX is greeyed out as an option (meaning not supported by phone or headset) In this case, the headset. I'll pin a comment on this.
What about using those with PS5? Is it BT compatible? If not, does the USB-C to 3.5 cable support a microphone transmission, so it can be used with controller as PORTA PRO MIC does...? PORTA PRO MIC are my favourite sound/mic host while playing on PS5 so far
@@michl2618 I can't say for sure since I don't have a PS5. I'd ask around, I'm sure someone will know that. I do know it is AAC and SBC codecs if that helps
Damn i tried making these and i still had 2 big bluetooth adapters stuck to each side. It worked. But looked awful. Best Value headphone of all time. I still use my wired Portas with my FIIO M3K.
Does the wired funktion also works if you connect it to your phone with a usb c to usb c cable? I wouldnt want to buy the expensive porta pros, and then a dac for my phone, but i want to be able to connect them and listen to the best possible sound from time to time.
Can they also play quietly? I am used to having my PC volume at 2/100 and some bluetooth headphones just cannot go under 10 or 5/100 which makes them too loud for me.
@@pepegano_3578 not quite sure what you mean...but I know they can be quiet if turned down. I don't believe these get super loud compared to other BT headphones I've heard
OK. I’m going to ask. Many commenters here are talking about it too. Are codecs really that big of a deal? I have an iPhone for many years. I had the previous Porta Pro bluetooth from several years ago. They did sound GREAT. Yes. Bluetooth-They were that good(only sound that is). I thought they were better sound wise than Bose Sony etc. My question still stands.
It's a fair point to make. Bluetooth will add compression no matter what the codecs are. I have experienced "better" quality out of more advanced codecs with some of the newest Earbuds. I also believe someone earlier made a valid point that these headphones actually benefit from a bit of power (not a ton) and that it could just be a bit weak on that as well since the battery seems to be the investment here. Either way, loudness I do think could be an issue with some...as in not getting these loud enough for what some may need, depending on hearing/listening level desires.
Most of the bluetooth codecs are good enough, particularly when you're outside. While they add compression throughout the entire frequency spectrum most of the "savings" are in the top end and low ends, while anything in between is tried to be kept intact as much as possible. Depending on the type of music you listen to there is often not much that gets discarded during the compression, and the stuff that does get discarded is often inaudible unless you are in a perfectly silent environment. All of which is to say, more modern codecs are better for quality, going from SPC to LDAC or AptX (HD) is a pretty significant improvement if you're in a silent environment, but that improvement means almost nothing if you're often using your headphones in noisy environments. And of course a good implementation of SPC with a nice DAC and drivers will sound better than a bad implementation of the latest AptX combined with a terrible DAC and bad drivers. The codec is only one piece of many.
@@marlons1 yes, they would have had to close off the porta pro. Then sound would have changed...just brought it up because anc is highly important to some
oof $99. i clicked this immediately since this is exactly what i've been wanting for a while, however, at that price it's going to be a pass for me. i'm currently using the ksc75's with a headband and a bluetooth dongle i soldered myself; it's still working fine. meh, i'll just keep my current set up for now.
Been waiting for these and they look great. BUT yeah - they’re def overpriced. Koss skimping out on components. Would love to see alternatives, but there’s really not much out there as lightweight with good sound.
I looooove the porta pros, but having 3 wired versions disintegrate on me I sort of wrote them off. All of them failed the same way, left driver died on me. I might just give this one a try
Disintegrate how? Just asking as someone who's got quite a few pair and daily's them on the regular. Also utilize the warranty, it's a big part of why Koss is so good.
@@profosist yeah I’m a pretty big fan of the kph40 myself, I never tried porta pros though. I do have a ksc75 that I’ve had for 2yrs and it still works great. Cables don’t get much thinner than those lol. Idk how a koss headphone could disintegrate lol, maybe the ear pads?
Less than hundred bucks for a great bluetooth version of a legendary pair of headphones, where they basically managed to hide all that bluetooth stuff inside almost the same form factor??? Tough sell?!
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Thanks to the tip from @parawizard I was able to determine what codecs were being used (with my Samsung S24 Ultra). According to my phone, just AAC and SBC were supported with the Porta Pro's. Samsung is known to be stingy with what codecs it will support, but, my phone does support AptX, which was greyed out as supported with the Porta Pro's. Still not sure just how big of a deal that is but wanted to report on it.
That's disappointing. I'm used to have AptxHD on both my big Sony headphones and Anker Bluetooth speaker. SBC is crappy and I thought AAC is thing of the past too. 🙄I forgot my Porta pro on bus just 2 weeks ago, so I was excited about getting wireless ones, but 100USD, 110USD in my country and not getting AptXHD nor LDAC? That's disappointment. Also wonder about battery test. The guy in video seem to just believe whatever spec says, not actually measuring it. I wonder if there's Porta pro alternative with the better codecs support.
@@EsoRimmer 👋 guy in the video here. The battery is legit. I've finally drained it down and had to charge it. About 22ish hours. I'm sure volume could play a factor to the length. Codecs, it's tough, but when I switched my phone to SBC it did improve the sound quality. Very close to what my wired porta pros sound like out of my phone.
@@Skeeb23another reviewer had the same issue. They also had better result with SBC and found the sound slightly better plugged in than wireless. Still I cannot go back to cord so this might be my entry to koss.
@@Skeeb23 That's strange. AAC should sound better than SBC I think. Also with my Sony headphones there's big difference in sound quality on Windows depending on whether the headphones are connected (through Bluetooth, SBC) as headphones or headset. In headset mode the quality drops noticeably and I think it's because part of the bandwidth is reserved for microphone, so there's less bandwidth left for the headphones.
@@EsoRimmer agreed it's strange, but legit sounds better with SBC. I didnt use these on my PC. Connection gets spotty with BT at times on Windows PC. So this was all through my android Samsung phone.
This is great news. The Porta Pros sound great but they were always hampered by an awful cord
Honestly, this is all the wireless I need. Now I need them to do one in gold.
I've been a Porta Pro fan for like 10-12 years now so I understood when you started taking out all your different versions! I owned the original "wireless" Porta Pros, and I literally just placed an order for the new pair just now, I even got the Yaxi Pads! I'm legitimately excited to try them out.
@@EduardoLuna120291 enjoy!
I remember selling what I know must been the very first incarnation back around 84 . I worked for curry’s back then , I wasn’t that impressed by them or any of the headphones we stocked at that time , none of them had much depth or life to their sound .
whoa! this is awesome! Can't wait to try them out.
This is fantastic news! I had to solder new cords on all my many Porta Pros because the og cord is awful. But I absolutely love the sound!
Your review really solidified my decision to get a pair! Also gonna snag some Yaxi pads to go with it! Thank you !!
@@phos192 appreciate that! Enjoy!
Star-Lord (Chris Pratt) gonna be rocking these in the next Guardians film. I'm def gonna give these a try. I've been looking for a pair of hp to get away from my wireless iem's as I can't stand iem's.
Definitely worth the try then!
Woah, imo the microphone sounds AMAZING considering that it's over bluetooth AND with the wind? 😮
FINALLY. Portapros my cat can't eat the cable of!
Hi Skeeb. I tried to like them because I LOVE Koss. I always wonder why people including audiophiles feel like they have to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars when you can just get the KSC75s or KPH40s for basically free and call it a day.
My point. After using these wireless which were sounding muffled, I immediately threw on my KSC75s. It is night and day. What a difference. The KSC75s are sooo good. And again, they cost nothing. As much as I hate to do it, I have to return these wireless portas.
My apologies to Koss. The company is still awesome.
my mom bought the OG PP while i was 12, the exact unit still sounds like it's new today.
@@711jastin that's impressive...unless you're now 13? 🤣
@@Skeeb23 I was born in the 90s
Yes! I’ll be adding these to my porta pro collection :)
Thanks for the great review! This is one of the finest reviews I’ve ever seen. Thanks much! 🙌
@@sudipchatterjee appreciate that!
Awesome release and a lovely review once again 👏
@@giorgosapo4508 thank you!
These are tempting! Not crazy about the price increase over the wired version though. I am wondering if there’s any lag when watching videos. That’s something that I wished you had covered in this review!
Hope they do the same thing with the KSC75!
@@arthurhaywood2184 noted about the lag on videos. If I find anything worth mentioning I'll comment back!
Noticed some lag initially with mine, but think it has to do with device switching. If you do a fresh pairing when connecting to a device it’s not an issue
Looks great ! But for home I have wired "no compromise" earphones. And for outside I have wireless buds, which are 10x smaller, and whatever worse sound quality will be offset by lack of noise cancel.
So I guess these might be useful when moving around the house .. where light open earphones are useful. Maybe even jogging in park. But meta shifted. Portas are not so portable anymore. Or at least the competition is more portable.
@@DrSid42 lately that's what I've been doing. Wearing them while around the house, cleaning up or just laying in bed at night scrolling. I get to hear my kids because of being open nature. All comes down to use case.
The best headphones in the world I love them I’m totally recommend it
The (assumed) lack of aptX decreases my excitement. I have the 1.0 wireless (and the usual collection of wired portapros, KPHs, KSCs, etc.), which has (standard) aptX, and it's a massive quality improvement from the old school SBC codec. Koss's spec sheet says this uses Bluetooth 5.2, which should/can include the LC3 codec (the quality of which is controversial at best), but it's not mentioned anywhere. Why is the list of codecs supported for this such a secret?
I'm not into how a headphone is designed around BT, so I have no idea why the codecs were not released. I tried to find out, but was told just standard. Hopefully they will decide to release a bit more info on that soon.
@@Skeeb23 I've heard they support AAC/SBC which is a common thing in TWS IEMs nowadays. AAC is ok-ish but having AptX would be great since usual suspects in BT 5.2 world have the hardware capability to support it.
I don't think the compression is a problem for the sound-quality. The amplification is not very good in such a tiny headphones. But it's the price you pay for true wireless Koss Porta Pro.
@@BunnyslippersEUC could be combo of both. The magic of porta pros!
I was looking for this, Going to order one rn thanks for this review! (My sony headphones need a replacement)
I just ordered some Jlab rewinds in hope they would be somewhat close to my portapros, but wireless, for my gaming rig. I should have known better. They are complete trash, even the button rattles when you move. I will be returning them and ordering these. Thanks for the detailed review!
No multi-connect sucks. One of the best features of newer headphones when you want to be connected to your phone and notebook at the same time :( Should be easily possible with BT5.2?
@@cionheart tbh, I've always had issues with multi connect. Some devices do it well, some are terrible with it. I'm worried if they had it may have been the latter.
Listening to this review on my wired PortaPotty Pro with Yaxi pads, and the first thing I notice are the Yaxi pads in the first second.
Those do look very tempting, plus I have a spare pair of Yaxi pads in a drawer around here somewhere, but $100 is a pretty steep ask for these.
What I'm worried most about these is that they can't be opened nondestructively, which means at some point that battery will die and stay dead.
@@RAHelllord true, but that is the biggest negative with all truly portable devices, the battery life expectancy. However, these have passthrough so at least there is still a wired option after it dies. Assuming however long they hold up
@@Skeeb23 Hopefully! Assuming the device will actually power on with a fully dead battery.
Also, I forgot to ask, did you try touching both steel bands with your fingers to see what happens while music is playing?
I'm curious if that would have any impact on the functionality considering they're basically two blank metal wires.
@@RAHelllord listening to them right now. Just touched the bands, nothing. It's a solid connection.
This seems to be a great product! I have a pair of Ksc75 and I love it, how will u compare the sound character between the New KOSS Porta Pro Wireless and the Ksc75? Thanks!
@@ykchan917 the ksc75 is the same driver, but, lighter in bass. I'm sure due to the clip on nature. The ksc75 is probably a bit better in midrange and treble clarity over the porta pro. Again, literally due to the clamp, fit and placement. Personally, I don't care for the ksc75 because of being bass light, but I know many love it!
These are open-backs, so transparency mode is present but always on.
@@flatfeelings right!? Is what it is
I'm definitely buy a set of these!!!
@@ChrisoneillART hell yeah man, just need to make a stand for them 😁
Thanx for first view Bro! 👌🎧🤙
Did you confirm what codecs are supported? What devices were you using for wireless? I am not much a fan of SBC. AAC or Aptx minimum.
I did not. I've been in contact but I'm just told standard 5.2 BT. Perhaps if enough are curious about it, they will release more of the specs.
@@Skeeb23 If you have an android phone you can see what codec is being used in developer options.
@@parawizard brilliant - thank you! So according to my Samsung S24 Ultra - the only Bluetooth Codec options are AAC and SBC. AptX is greeyed out as an option (meaning not supported by phone or headset) In this case, the headset. I'll pin a comment on this.
when is the restock can't find these for sale anywhere will there be more color options the beige option with wireless would be so sweet
What about using those with PS5? Is it BT compatible? If not, does the USB-C to 3.5 cable support a microphone transmission, so it can be used with controller as PORTA PRO MIC does...?
PORTA PRO MIC are my favourite sound/mic host while playing on PS5 so far
@@michl2618 I can't say for sure since I don't have a PS5. I'd ask around, I'm sure someone will know that. I do know it is AAC and SBC codecs if that helps
Damn i tried making these and i still had 2 big bluetooth adapters stuck to each side. It worked. But looked awful. Best Value headphone of all time. I still use my wired Portas with my FIIO M3K.
Does the wired funktion also works if you connect it to your phone with a usb c to usb c cable? I wouldnt want to buy the expensive porta pros, and then a dac for my phone, but i want to be able to connect them and listen to the best possible sound from time to time.
@@cristobalnietogonzalez4460 yes, it does
Can you connect to multiple devices with these or just one? Man if these supported higher res codecs and had multipoint I would be all over these.
@@mdrumt they do not have multiconnect
@@Skeeb23 gah! Koss they always manage to drop the ball on such simple things that would otherwise make their products great. Thank you for the reply.
Can they also play quietly?
I am used to having my PC volume at 2/100 and some bluetooth headphones just cannot go under 10 or 5/100 which makes them too loud for me.
@@pepegano_3578 not quite sure what you mean...but I know they can be quiet if turned down. I don't believe these get super loud compared to other BT headphones I've heard
Oooooo give me a kph40 wireless! I do that with my qudelix and have a nice eq on em.
OK. I’m going to ask. Many commenters here are talking about it too. Are codecs really that big of a deal? I have an iPhone for many years. I had the previous Porta Pro bluetooth from several years ago. They did sound GREAT. Yes. Bluetooth-They were that good(only sound that is). I thought they were better sound wise than Bose Sony etc. My question still stands.
It's a fair point to make. Bluetooth will add compression no matter what the codecs are. I have experienced "better" quality out of more advanced codecs with some of the newest Earbuds. I also believe someone earlier made a valid point that these headphones actually benefit from a bit of power (not a ton) and that it could just be a bit weak on that as well since the battery seems to be the investment here. Either way, loudness I do think could be an issue with some...as in not getting these loud enough for what some may need, depending on hearing/listening level desires.
Most of the bluetooth codecs are good enough, particularly when you're outside. While they add compression throughout the entire frequency spectrum most of the "savings" are in the top end and low ends, while anything in between is tried to be kept intact as much as possible.
Depending on the type of music you listen to there is often not much that gets discarded during the compression, and the stuff that does get discarded is often inaudible unless you are in a perfectly silent environment.
All of which is to say, more modern codecs are better for quality, going from SPC to LDAC or AptX (HD) is a pretty significant improvement if you're in a silent environment, but that improvement means almost nothing if you're often using your headphones in noisy environments.
And of course a good implementation of SPC with a nice DAC and drivers will sound better than a bad implementation of the latest AptX combined with a terrible DAC and bad drivers. The codec is only one piece of many.
@@RAHelllord well said 🫡
@@RAHelllord Thank you. Wow. Very knowledgeable gentleman here. 👍🏻
In for the ksc75 mods for these.
Are these fragile or can I carry them without the case in my bag
I need one in the beige colorway
Imo they're kinda cooler wired tho~
Purple Yaxi pads are the way!
lack of multi-device support is a big miss
Very cool!
oh man that's amazing. Now how do I connect these to ps5
So basically you can short out the driver by shorting the two halves of the headband together.
@@RobertNES816 I doubt that...but I wouldn't stick your head in the microwave with them on.
@Skeeb23 take a key and short the two halves of the headband together to see if one side stops working.
Thuro review, thanks for posting.
Cool water glass
What pads do you put on them. Where is the link?
@@stevebritt7369 yaxi, link in description
@@Skeeb23 ordered them and a purple ear pad.
My pair has a hiss on the left side when connected on Bluetooth. Does anyone else have this issue?
ANC would be impossible these are open back headphones.
@@marlons1 yes, they would have had to close off the porta pro. Then sound would have changed...just brought it up because anc is highly important to some
oof $99. i clicked this immediately since this is exactly what i've been wanting for a while, however, at that price it's going to be a pass for me. i'm currently using the ksc75's with a headband and a bluetooth dongle i soldered myself; it's still working fine. meh, i'll just keep my current set up for now.
@@carlos2004 I heard they did a 20% coupon on Amazon, but didn't check for myself. I'd just keep an eye out for sales.
Been waiting for these and they look great. BUT yeah - they’re def overpriced. Koss skimping out on components. Would love to see alternatives, but there’s really not much out there as lightweight with good sound.
They seem nice but the price doesn't though.
Now you can have all the hair pulling with none of the hassle from cords!
@@HobbyTalk 😂🫡
I looooove the porta pros, but having 3 wired versions disintegrate on me I sort of wrote them off. All of them failed the same way, left driver died on me. I might just give this one a try
The driver died? Or the cord?
Disintegrate how? Just asking as someone who's got quite a few pair and daily's them on the regular. Also utilize the warranty, it's a big part of why Koss is so good.
@@profosist yeah I’m a pretty big fan of the kph40 myself, I never tried porta pros though. I do have a ksc75 that I’ve had for 2yrs and it still works great. Cables don’t get much thinner than those lol. Idk how a koss headphone could disintegrate lol, maybe the ear pads?
@@Hijynx87 yeah I was thinking earpads, but that's just how it is for any pads like that.
@@Hijynx87 probably the cord
So 99$ for an ~85% of PP.
I'd rather buy a Qudelix 5K
& shorten PortaPro's cable
$99 is a tough sell. They should of teamed up with Yaxi then asked $99.
Less than hundred bucks for a great bluetooth version of a legendary pair of headphones, where they basically managed to hide all that bluetooth stuff inside almost the same form factor??? Tough sell?!
@@silentrocco yep you got it. Wait for the sale
@@m4nc1n1 I won‘t wait.
There's a 20% off coupon on Amazon so I was able to get them with the pads for $106 after tax
Go cry