So, ignoring his "looks" category (because it is completely subjective) the actual rankings would be: Joint 1st: Ping & Callaway (19 points) 3rd: Mizuno (17 points) 4th: Kirkland (16 points) Joint 5th: Cobra & Taylormade (13 points) If you then also ignore the price (if money isn't an object to you) the rankings would be: 1st: Ping (17 points) 2nd: Callaway (16 points) 3rd: Mizuno (13 points) Joint 4th: Kirkland & Taylormade (10 points) 6th: Cobra (8 points)
@@theythinkimmadyouknow good point that, I game them MP 241-245 mixed bag, to me any hcp can game them, very forgiving, however I let my 18 hcp buddy try them, I said you’ll love them, but he couldn’t play them at all. So what feels forgiving for a low hcp doesn’t mean it’s the case for a mid or high hcp.
I've just picked up my P770's today. Always go for a fitting and never go solely on RUclips reviews. I hit the CW apex Ai200 irons furthest and had a faster club head speed but a wide dispersion. The Ping i530's were ok, not the furthest and not the best grouping. I tried the P790's but didn't get on with them, did ok with P7CB's but the P770's had the best dispersion by far and a consistent distance. Never buy blind and never go in with your heart and mind set, try everything and really try lots of shafts because I found that made the most difference.
Couldn’t agree more with that statement. It’s all what works with your swing. I went for my first ever fitting and got fit into the P790s. Hit them great and very consistent with dispersion. Thought going in I was getting fit into the Pro 245 but my swing didn’t get along with them for some reason. Hit a bunch of different irons but the P790s were the clear winner for me. Got fit into a heavier shaft as well which I was kind of shocked with
@johnpetolillo288 my old shafts were KBS Tour x stiff 130 and I just couldn't hit them anymore. I'm now using a Dynamic Gold Stiff 115 and it's made a world of difference. I honestly believe it's more about the shafts than the heads there days.
@@craigpusey4733 Absolutely, Shafts play a huge part. The head is more or less of what you are comfortable with at address to an extent. I think the shaft is more important. My current gamers (well old ones now) JPX 923 Hot Metals have KBS Tour Lites Stiff flex in them. To my surprise, I was fit into a heavier shaft but a regular flex. Here I thought I would be fit into a lighter flex. By being fit into the heavier shaft, it shrunk my dispersion circle a lot and I was hitting much more consistent shots. Was definitely surprised with that.
you are going to love them...best irons I've ever owned...the ball flies off the face...they've held up well and still look great. I'm remind everyone, the club makers don't pay you...buy something that's fit right for you and your swing.
@@alcw625 yeah I’m super excited for them to come in! Can’t go against the data. The fitting was extremely helpful. Was honestly shocked how well I was hitting them compared to my current gamers. 17 feet higher with a bigger decent angle and more spin. All while not sacrificing any distance. Kind of an eye opener. Not to mention the consistency and dispersion circle was very consistent, which is what I was looking for in an iron. Helps that these look awesome as well
Can‘t believe titleist t200s are not there 😮 Maybe you need to do this again with titleist, srixon, inesis, Wilson, takomo & PXG as a second semi final, then do a head to head final of winner vs Pings
I went for a fitting a few months ago and ended up getting the Callaway AI300's. I actually had them made 2 degrees weaker because they were 6 degrees stronger than my last set of clubs. They are everything I wanted in a club. I still go for lessons and my coach said he's never seen someone hit shots so straight and consistent. I also average about 25 yards more distance on each club from my last set.
I just got fit for Ping i530s at the end of the season and I've only done driving range sessions with them, but I love them. I didn't intend on getting them walking into the fitting, but they are incredible. Thank you for making me feel better about my purchase 😂
Went from not even reviewing them to #1 iron for mid handicappers. I bought them before you reviewed them and loved them but was unsure why the biggest youtuber never reviewed them. I glad to see I have good taste.
This makes no since to me either, Mizuno makes the best hollow body, CB, and bladed irons I would say ever, he just doesn’t like mizuno for some reason or another, maybe they don’t pay him, he’s a Ping and Cobra type person though, that says it all though
@@StephenFugarino the paid promos seem to be the only possible reason I can come up with as well. His review of takomo irons suggested he thought they were at least equal to the P790, yet they weren't in this test either
@nofox777 perhaps not, but when he's reviewing the irons with the same name as drivers that get released every year, and the mizuno pro series is on a 2 year cycle, it makes it more important to review them don't you think?
The test winners are already in my bag. I agree with what you said about the feel & distance and also how they compared to the P790’s……. Great review and yes I am biased…. ⛳️👍🏻💪⛳️
100% spot on p790 is king! I have gamed over 10 different iron sets in the last 2 years just to find the perfect set including cobra, takomo, sub70, callaway, ping and none of them feel as good as the p790…. Granted I’m now in the new 2024 p770 and love them but the p790 is just an amazing set of irons for a mid handicap player. 👍🏼🙂⛳️
I went for a fitting today and hit all of these clubs minus the Kirkland. For ne 790 had the best look and confidence behind the ball, but was also the most consistent. I hit over 200 balls today, and I had the most consistent shot placement.
@@dandunne-d5b what wedge set up you got with them . Was thinking I’d prob have to change to 48 54 60 with the lofts being so strong if I switched to the i530
@@Matt-xc4wd lofts are jacked but the ball goes high, your angle of attack may be different and you may have to go with all those wedges. I just have a 54, 58.
You missed it on Mizuno, the 925 pro is game improvement! You needed to is the pro 245 it’s hollow body like the others!!! Yet another video doing Mizuno a major disservice!! I really think you have something against Mizuno!!! Comment and prove me wrong
I doubt he is going to comment to 'prove you wrong', but he did get the Mizuno wrong. the 245 is the right set to be testing against the others, especially against TM, Callaway, and even against kirkland. Hallow body, much better looking and for the mid-HCP even towards the lower HCP.
@@bobnish1 yeah I doubt he reads comments at all. He has a team to do that now. Hes as disconnected from his community as ever. Success does that I suppose and success he has had.
The ZX5 should have probably been part of this test…and if we’re opening the door to the Kirkland irons, then Takomo, Vice, Sub70, et al should be part of the conversation.
Why not add the Takomo’s? You already cracked that egg, so why not add the 201 or 101T’s in this? I’m about to purchase a set of Haywood signature irons, but Takomo’s can act as a proxy for the DTC brands that make these types of irons.
Great comment. I've stopped watching club recommendations that do not include Takomo as an option. I'm sure there's alot that goes into these recommendations but the unintended major brand bias is blatantly obvious.
Entertaining content as always, but yet again a complete absence of Srixon products. The ZX series irons have consistently won praise, accolades and positive feedback from around the golfing community. They've won awards and have consistently been reviewed as some of the best irons on the market for mid handicappers (ZX5) and lower handicap golfers (ZX7). Having followed Rick and his channels and podcast for years, Srixon is never mentioned to the point where they're conspicuous by their absence. I can only assume that there's some kind of embargo or cease and desist which leads to Srixon never being mentioned or tested alongside other leading (or DTC) brands, including Driver, FW, irons, wedges and balls. Although I seem to remember Rick testing the Z Star years ago, but that's about it. As a fan of the channel, a listener to the podcast series since day one and a huge fan of golf I'd love Rick or Guy to at least comment on why. I'm fairly sure I'm not the only one thinking this.
Because all of the irons hit hit the ball within a 5 yard variance, it seems distance should rated way lower than accuracy. Accuracy problems will cost way more shots than slight distance differences, especially since the distance differences don't matter as much once the golfer knows what distance each club hits. To put it in a more extreme way, a shorter hitting golfer who is very accurate will usually beat a longer hitter who has accuracy problems, assuming equal ball striking skill levels. Looks are somewhat personal so those should be weighted less as well. I agree on the weighting of price and feel. Summary: Accuracy should be weighted double. Price and feel as is. Price varies by a golfer's economic status so each golfer will weight that differently. Distance and looks weighted half. If the distance differences were more extreme, then I would say weighted full. Takomo's should have been included as others have said. I would buy the 201s if I were in the market for irons. Mine are old - 2011 (old lofts like blades). They are the head model Furyk used to shoot 58 (Callaway RAZR X Forged). I didn't know that when I bought them used from Callaway pre-owned.
This makes me feel pretty good about my choices as I changed my P790’s for a set of i530’s. The Pings are confidence inspiring and have really changed the way I approach the course.
Such a good iron category. You could’ve added the takomo 101’s, Wilson staff dynapower forged, Srixon ZX5, Titleist T200. It hilarious that the p790 and Kirkland tied for 3rd… wonder if that would come up in the court case!😂
In 3rd place the p790, and tied for 3rd place the… p790…😂 Great review! I liked it so much I bought a nice used set of i500s today. I can’t afford i530s so same difference right? Golfer math… 😂
If you don’t mind going for a previous model, Ping i525 look even nicer (less chunky) and you can get them for a lot less than the new ones. Love my Ping i525!!!
I’d like to see a head to head matchup with the Kirkland signature irons versus the Takomo irons. Since they are two of the lower priced sets out there.
As a 16 handicapper I have tried the Ping , Calloway , Taylor Made and Mizuno. The Pings were the only clubs that could match my game improvement irons for distance, which is key for me . I think they have made a Game Improvement Iron that looks and feels like a players distance iron which might justify the cost ?
If that were my club fitting, the clubs which hit target the most are going in my bag unless they feel awful. Those Callaway would be in my bag for sure
Ping getting a lot right at present the I230 is superb the new blueprints and i530 then top it off with the G range Downside just pricey but do the job
i agree with you on the p790's and they are what i use. At the start of the year i wanted new irons, my mate has an older set of p790 which i had tried on the range and loved them so i decided to go for a fitting and was actually fitted into them, After the full season playing with them they just don't feel as good as the ones from a couple years ago, i think you mentioned it in a previous testing also.
I think you missed the boat on two factors. First and Foremost, the number one factor for all golfers is accuracy yet all factors were equally weighted. So Rick answer the question, which would you rather do, hit the green or put the ball into the gorse but look good doing it and save a tenner per club? The Second Factor was you left our Srixon and you left out Takomo but included Kirkland. The weakness of Kirkland is you can't get the lie adjusted or the shaft shortened or the shaft upgraded but Takomo can be had with many upgrades and adjustments. For 2025 the competition include all brands, maybe 2 first rounds: first of off brands then big brands then a final.
It's good to see reviews on clubs but it's not the be all and end of the search for new clubs. I recently had a full iron fitting and tried the i530's the Callaway and p790's, also zx5 and t200. Initially the T200 and i530 offered the best performance but once we started interchanging shafts it changed completely. The p790's stood out by far, the best in launch, disbursement and feel. So while these reviews are good they are no guarantee that the club that comes 1st or 2nd will be the right club for you. Go get properly fitted to avoid massive disappointment. And just before I get any negatives, I am an avid Rick supporter, Pete and James too!
Im guessing I'm classed as a mid to high handicap (shoot around 90 each round) I got myself a set of taylormade p7mc earlier this year and it's helped my game big time
Rick, I have a question for you. I'm expecting to buy a complete set of golf equipment next year, - I've had to take a long break due to illness but should hopefully be back and ready to play again soon. I wondered if you knew where there is a really large variety of clubs from different manufacturers under one roof that I can then test on their range to see what works for me before I then get custom fit. I could go to a fitting centre with one manufacturer but I'd like to have more choice. Thanks for all your hard work, it's most appreciated.
I'm not one to ever usually criticise Rick but how on Earth can you score clubs using the same criteria on distance only when the lofts are significantly different? Granted the looks category is subjective but I'd give Rick a pass on that but there's no way you can score a club low on distance when it's basically up against a club at least 1 club stronger in loft 🤣 As I say though, Rick is still by far the best RUclipsr to go to when I'm looking at changing anything, obviously I get fitted etc but I like to see what his thoughts are. FWIW My greatest ever golf purchase to date is my TaylorMade p790's where, ironically I got fitted for at Rick's old stomping ground, Trafford Golf Centre, outstanding iron's 👍
I own Kirkland's and Apeks CF16s, Kirkland's would now be the better iron set, for feel, distance and accuracy. Very happy with them. I expected the 115gram shaft to be away too heavy but no, fine, I went reg flex too, and see no issue opting for a soft feel and a higher launch, I would almost compress my shots too much. Critics would be the shafts are 1/2 too short, so had to buy extensions just make standard length. But wear is excellent 30 full rounds and look like brand new. ( Apeks marked up after 3 rounds!)
Wish you had added the Takomo’s into this ranking given their boom in popularity and your review touting how good they were. Would loved to have seen how they stacked up.
Dispersion would be a better criteria than accuracy; given potential differences in weighing of clubhead and shaft or offset differences.... But all in all, much appreciated since this is my market as a firmly mid golfer.
Looks have always been a weird one for me as a reason to buy a specific club. Older, more experienced golfers love the thin, bladed look because that’s what they grew up with associating with great players. I’d be really interested to see what a new or younger player thinks of the looks of a comparative set like this. Someone without that bias. I have a feeling it would be very different.
I know there are so many good clubs out there but i am a big fan of PXG Gen 7 P or XP most times you get what you pay for also Takomo 101T's should be in there before Kirkland any day of the week great video still cheers from Canada
I’m terrible and picked up a set of 770’s. They can be hit off the toe or center and they still go straight for me. Easier to hit for me than my old starter rocketbladez
Hay flash ah ha. I have the ping i530. Wanted a smaller head. BUT You can't beat the forgiveness feel and distance. YOU ARE CORRECT. excellent review. Where is Santa Sheils?
For future reference, I think it would be helpful to score each category 1-5 or 1-10. That way, if two clubs look and feel just as good as the other, they would get the same points. Just seems to be a more rounded score.
not that it sways the results much but im curious if sets are sold differently across the world ... i got the ping I530s and got 4-PW where you said theyre sold 5-PW. great to see the feedback and review of all the clubs and having played these ping I530s its a big confidence boost that they are talked about as good as they are!
I’ll just add if you’ve got the money the ping easily takes the win on all categories however, I’m a embarrassingly high handicap and for my budget, the Costco clubs would definitely come second they look amazing they feel amazing. They’re sound amazing and amazing price.
I got fitted for the ping i530's but hit all of these except the kirklands and my rankong was exactly the same. Also hit the srixons and they were last on my list
Obviously you can't include an obnoxious amount of irons in the test but don't you think that Wilson DynaPwr deserved a shot? Looks, price, feel and performance would have been near or at the top of every category.
@@Matt-xc4wd I would argue the 201s are more in the class of the p770s. The 101ts are basically p790 clones all the way down to the injected speed foam.
Why when the 201 are a cb not hollow body ? The Kirklands have been sued for being to similar to the p790. So even taylormade think they are in this category of iron .
@@Matt-xc4wd personally I think Takomo 101’s fit this category, just my opinion 🤷🏻 could quite easily bring in other brands too such as pxg, titlest etc I just think the Kirkland brand just isn’t appealing especially now there’s other companies producing quality affordable irons, I’ve yet to see anyone on a course playing Kirkland signature
Would be good if you had a mid handicap golfer with a mid handicap swing to test these I’m a mid handicap and wouldn’t hit all them irons as good as you do Ricky boy
Need to take out the looks and price portions. I think the Mizuno look the best out of all of them but that doesn't change anything in the mechanics of the club. The price doesn't make a club better or worse. It's all personal preference with both. I appreciate you doing these videos though. Keep up the great work Rick.
Folks, these reviews are very informative however, IMO, you should simply go get fitted by an independent club fitter. The P790’s could be perfect for you, but it always comes down to other factors like shaft, shaft weight, etc.
I understand you can’t review everything so I want to shout out srixon zx5. Don’t see much Srixon on here such an underrated club/brand. I love my zx5s they are so solid and forgiving. Turf interaction is elite in my opinion
Odd that there are no Takomos in this list. He said he loved them in his review. Speaking just for me, they are the best irons I have ever played. The price helps a lot too.
I think when buying irons you would want to know the distance dispersion as well as the accuracy left and right of target. I would want to know the percentage of shots that hit the same distance not an average distance. Forgiveness is important too so I would want to know how the club performs from slightly off-centre hits. Not many mid-handicap players strike their irons perfectly all the time.
Question for everyone. Im new to the handicap in golf. What range would be considered low, mid, and high? I have my handicap on an app from where i have played 50 rounds over 12 courses. Just curious to where i stand in all of that. Any insight is appreciated
Rick, cheers again for the reviews. Love the relaxed style of the videos. I know you're trying to keep the testing fair but you're not doing a large enough sample size to account for your inconsistency. Preferably you'd need to use Robot swing testing for the relative performance part of the review. Otherwise you're giving mis-information concerning the performance of each club & that produces unneccessary turmoil in someone's purchase decisions.
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So, ignoring his "looks" category (because it is completely subjective) the actual rankings would be:
Joint 1st: Ping & Callaway (19 points)
3rd: Mizuno (17 points)
4th: Kirkland (16 points)
Joint 5th: Cobra & Taylormade (13 points)
If you then also ignore the price (if money isn't an object to you) the rankings would be:
1st: Ping (17 points)
2nd: Callaway (16 points)
3rd: Mizuno (13 points)
Joint 4th: Kirkland & Taylormade (10 points)
6th: Cobra (8 points)
Brilliant !!! Do you know Mr, Miss, Mrs, or MS Staft, Rick is looking for a producer. Please apply.
Much better ranking
@@The_Oak_Staff totally agree
assuming a low handicap golfers testing on behalf of a mid handicappers has any validity whatsoever
@@theythinkimmadyouknow good point that, I game them MP 241-245 mixed bag, to me any hcp can game them, very forgiving, however I let my 18 hcp buddy try them, I said you’ll love them, but he couldn’t play them at all. So what feels forgiving for a low hcp doesn’t mean it’s the case for a mid or high hcp.
I've just picked up my P770's today. Always go for a fitting and never go solely on RUclips reviews. I hit the CW apex Ai200 irons furthest and had a faster club head speed but a wide dispersion. The Ping i530's were ok, not the furthest and not the best grouping. I tried the P790's but didn't get on with them, did ok with P7CB's but the P770's had the best dispersion by far and a consistent distance. Never buy blind and never go in with your heart and mind set, try everything and really try lots of shafts because I found that made the most difference.
Couldn’t agree more with that statement. It’s all what works with your swing. I went for my first ever fitting and got fit into the P790s. Hit them great and very consistent with dispersion. Thought going in I was getting fit into the Pro 245 but my swing didn’t get along with them for some reason. Hit a bunch of different irons but the P790s were the clear winner for me. Got fit into a heavier shaft as well which I was kind of shocked with
@johnpetolillo288 my old shafts were KBS Tour x stiff 130 and I just couldn't hit them anymore. I'm now using a Dynamic Gold Stiff 115 and it's made a world of difference. I honestly believe it's more about the shafts than the heads there days.
@@craigpusey4733 Absolutely, Shafts play a huge part. The head is more or less of what you are comfortable with at address to an extent. I think the shaft is more important. My current gamers (well old ones now) JPX 923 Hot Metals have KBS Tour Lites Stiff flex in them. To my surprise, I was fit into a heavier shaft but a regular flex. Here I thought I would be fit into a lighter flex. By being fit into the heavier shaft, it shrunk my dispersion circle a lot and I was hitting much more consistent shots. Was definitely surprised with that.
you are going to love them...best irons I've ever owned...the ball flies off the face...they've held up well and still look great. I'm remind everyone, the club makers don't pay you...buy something that's fit right for you and your swing.
@@alcw625 yeah I’m super excited for them to come in! Can’t go against the data. The fitting was extremely helpful. Was honestly shocked how well I was hitting them compared to my current gamers. 17 feet higher with a bigger decent angle and more spin. All while not sacrificing any distance. Kind of an eye opener. Not to mention the consistency and dispersion circle was very consistent, which is what I was looking for in an iron. Helps that these look awesome as well
Can’t believe there are no Srixon ZX5 in this test!
Got them myself mate, absolute cheat code of a club.
I thought the same. Possibly because the new Srixon ZXi range only just came out...? They're the top of my list
They were 2023 release.
Srixon never gets much love in these RUclips reviews.
came to say the same thing, even the zx4's are as good as the ones reviewed
Can‘t believe titleist t200s are not there 😮
Maybe you need to do this again with titleist, srixon, inesis, Wilson, takomo & PXG as a second semi final, then do a head to head final of winner vs Pings
Fully agree with this. I'd love to see how Rick scores these, especially the PXG Gen7 0311 XP which I'm dying to try out
pxg fr - 0317t are solid af
Kirkland isn’t available, Titleist t200 and apex 200s should be in it, not the 300s
I'm a 12 HCP and I just got the Titleist T150s. They are fire!!! Highly recommended.
I went for a fitting a few months ago and ended up getting the Callaway AI300's. I actually had them made 2 degrees weaker because they were 6 degrees stronger than my last set of clubs. They are everything I wanted in a club. I still go for lessons and my coach said he's never seen someone hit shots so straight and consistent. I also average about 25 yards more distance on each club from my last set.
I just got fit for Ping i530s at the end of the season and I've only done driving range sessions with them, but I love them. I didn't intend on getting them walking into the fitting, but they are incredible. Thank you for making me feel better about my purchase 😂
Went from not even reviewing them to #1 iron for mid handicappers. I bought them before you reviewed them and loved them but was unsure why the biggest youtuber never reviewed them. I glad to see I have good taste.
I’m still gaming the 2019 Apex. Love that iron range. Might have to upgrade for 2025. Great review Rick!
Rick I don't understand why you haven't reviewed the mizuno pro 241, 243, & 245. The 245 is a much more progressive iron than the 925 HM Pro
I've been saying he should review these for months now
This makes no since to me either, Mizuno makes the best hollow body, CB, and bladed irons I would say ever, he just doesn’t like mizuno for some reason or another, maybe they don’t pay him, he’s a Ping and Cobra type person though, that says it all though
@@StephenFugarino the paid promos seem to be the only possible reason I can come up with as well. His review of takomo irons suggested he thought they were at least equal to the P790, yet they weren't in this test either
He can’t do it all
@nofox777 perhaps not, but when he's reviewing the irons with the same name as drivers that get released every year, and the mizuno pro series is on a 2 year cycle, it makes it more important to review them don't you think?
The test winners are already in my bag. I agree with what you said about the feel & distance and also how they compared to the P790’s……. Great review and yes I am biased…. ⛳️👍🏻💪⛳️
100% spot on p790 is king! I have gamed over 10 different iron sets in the last 2 years just to find the perfect set including cobra, takomo, sub70, callaway, ping and none of them feel as good as the p790…. Granted I’m now in the new 2024 p770 and love them but the p790 is just an amazing set of irons for a mid handicap player. 👍🏼🙂⛳️
I went for a fitting today and hit all of these clubs minus the Kirkland. For ne 790 had the best look and confidence behind the ball, but was also the most consistent. I hit over 200 balls today, and I had the most consistent shot placement.
That's the problem with most reviews from a single creator like Rick. Golf is incredibly subjective from player to player.
Have the Ping I530 and they literally are the best irons I’ve ever played.
Amen, just ordered them after a fitting.
I’ve tried them and the G430 and the i530 is just as forgiving. Seriously considering the i530.
ai have the i530's in the retro lofts and love them
@@dandunne-d5b what wedge set up you got with them . Was thinking I’d prob have to change to 48 54 60 with the lofts being so strong if I switched to the i530
@@Matt-xc4wd lofts are jacked but the ball goes high, your angle of attack may be different and you may have to go with all those wedges. I just have a 54, 58.
Get fitted because they are i530 are absolutely amazing, had them for a month now and the best I’ve ever had.
Been playing the Ai300 for around 2/3 months, they are absolutely great!
You missed it on Mizuno, the 925 pro is game improvement! You needed to is the pro 245 it’s hollow body like the others!!! Yet another video doing Mizuno a major disservice!! I really think you have something against Mizuno!!! Comment and prove me wrong
Yes, the 245s are a beautiful mid handicap iron. The JPXs are def game improvement as you said. A massive injustice.
I've been asking him to do the 245s for months now, no response
@ we need a bunch of likes and replies, so that Rick or his team see’s this
I doubt he is going to comment to 'prove you wrong', but he did get the Mizuno wrong. the 245 is the right set to be testing against the others, especially against TM, Callaway, and even against kirkland. Hallow body, much better looking and for the mid-HCP even towards the lower HCP.
@@bobnish1 yeah I doubt he reads comments at all. He has a team to do that now. Hes as disconnected from his community as ever. Success does that I suppose and success he has had.
The ZX5 should have probably been part of this test…and if we’re opening the door to the Kirkland irons, then Takomo, Vice, Sub70, et al should be part of the conversation.
Great video. Have you done a similar video for high handicap golfers?
Get some used cavity backs for irons, get a fitting for a driver, and practice technique, and practice technique, and practice technique...
Brilliant video that Rick need some new irons that's helped me out a lot 😅 thanks.⛳️
Why not add the Takomo’s? You already cracked that egg, so why not add the 201 or 101T’s in this?
I’m about to purchase a set of Haywood signature irons, but Takomo’s can act as a proxy for the DTC brands that make these types of irons.
Great comment. I've stopped watching club recommendations that do not include Takomo as an option. I'm sure there's alot that goes into these recommendations but the unintended major brand bias is blatantly obvious.
@@civik29 Rick is very much a brand/blade snob.
They don’t rly fit in Cb/MB are a little too unforgiving and the 101s are a little too much
@@JaxReds They have the 201s that are made specifically for mid-handicappers. Would've loved to see them in here compared to these other brands.
Because he was talking about 2024 releases.
Entertaining content as always, but yet again a complete absence of Srixon products. The ZX series irons have consistently won praise, accolades and positive feedback from around the golfing community. They've won awards and have consistently been reviewed as some of the best irons on the market for mid handicappers (ZX5) and lower handicap golfers (ZX7). Having followed Rick and his channels and podcast for years, Srixon is never mentioned to the point where they're conspicuous by their absence. I can only assume that there's some kind of embargo or cease and desist which leads to Srixon never being mentioned or tested alongside other leading (or DTC) brands, including Driver, FW, irons, wedges and balls. Although I seem to remember Rick testing the Z Star years ago, but that's about it. As a fan of the channel, a listener to the podcast series since day one and a huge fan of golf I'd love Rick or Guy to at least comment on why. I'm fairly sure I'm not the only one thinking this.
Because all of the irons hit hit the ball within a 5 yard variance, it seems distance should rated way lower than accuracy. Accuracy problems will cost way more shots than slight distance differences, especially since the distance differences don't matter as much once the golfer knows what distance each club hits. To put it in a more extreme way, a shorter hitting golfer who is very accurate will usually beat a longer hitter who has accuracy problems, assuming equal ball striking skill levels. Looks are somewhat personal so those should be weighted less as well. I agree on the weighting of price and feel. Summary: Accuracy should be weighted double. Price and feel as is. Price varies by a golfer's economic status so each golfer will weight that differently. Distance and looks weighted half. If the distance differences were more extreme, then I would say weighted full. Takomo's should have been included as others have said. I would buy the 201s if I were in the market for irons. Mine are old - 2011 (old lofts like blades). They are the head model Furyk used to shoot 58 (Callaway RAZR X Forged). I didn't know that when I bought them used from Callaway pre-owned.
This makes me feel pretty good about my choices as I changed my P790’s for a set of i530’s. The Pings are confidence inspiring and have really changed the way I approach the course.
Such a good iron category. You could’ve added the takomo 101’s, Wilson staff dynapower forged, Srixon ZX5, Titleist T200. It hilarious that the p790 and Kirkland tied for 3rd… wonder if that would come up in the court case!😂
Good video format and well presented 👍
In 3rd place the p790, and tied for 3rd place the… p790…😂
Great review! I liked it so much I bought a nice used set of i500s today. I can’t afford i530s so same difference right? Golfer math… 😂
I was basically dead set on on getting a set of P790s, but went in for a fitting and the pings just felt better and looked better behind the ball.
If you don’t mind going for a previous model, Ping i525 look even nicer (less chunky) and you can get them for a lot less than the new ones.
Love my Ping i525!!!
Exact same here!! Love my 525’s!!
Bang on mate 525s are quality
This is the way.
I don't think I've seen Rick hit PXG irons. I went from Pings to PXG 0311s and have never looked back. I love them.
I’d like to see a head to head matchup with the Kirkland signature irons versus the Takomo irons. Since they are two of the lower priced sets out there.
As a 16 handicapper I have tried the Ping , Calloway , Taylor Made and Mizuno. The Pings were the only clubs that could match my game improvement irons for distance, which is key for me . I think they have made a Game Improvement Iron that looks and feels like a players distance iron which might justify the cost ?
If that were my club fitting, the clubs which hit target the most are going in my bag unless they feel awful. Those Callaway would be in my bag for sure
Got the pings, love them…
I got fitted with Mizuno and TaylorMade and ended up going with PXG gen7. It out performed the Mizuno and the TM 0770 and TM 0790!by a long shot.
Ping getting a lot right at present the I230 is superb the new blueprints and i530 then top it off with the G range
Downside just pricey but do the job
Being a Ping i530 owner, I am going to say, the Titleist t200 needs to be on the list. I was torn between the two when I got fitted.
Try the t150 irons I found them as easy and nicer to hit 7.8 hcap👌
i agree with you on the p790's and they are what i use. At the start of the year i wanted new irons, my mate has an older set of p790 which i had tried on the range and loved them so i decided to go for a fitting and was actually fitted into them, After the full season playing with them they just don't feel as good as the ones from a couple years ago, i think you mentioned it in a previous testing also.
fantastic analysis. Can you do a similar review for high handicappers / beginners. Will be really helpful for the audience. Great going Rick. Big fan
I think you missed the boat on two factors. First and Foremost, the number one factor for all golfers is accuracy yet all factors were equally weighted. So Rick answer the question, which would you rather do, hit the green or put the ball into the gorse but look good doing it and save a tenner per club? The Second Factor was you left our Srixon and you left out Takomo but included Kirkland. The weakness of Kirkland is you can't get the lie adjusted or the shaft shortened or the shaft upgraded but Takomo can be had with many upgrades and adjustments. For 2025 the competition include all brands, maybe 2 first rounds: first of off brands then big brands then a final.
It's good to see reviews on clubs but it's not the be all and end of the search for new clubs. I recently had a full iron fitting and tried the i530's the Callaway and p790's, also zx5 and t200. Initially the T200 and i530 offered the best performance but once we started interchanging shafts it changed completely. The p790's stood out by far, the best in launch, disbursement and feel. So while these reviews are good they are no guarantee that the club that comes 1st or 2nd will be the right club for you. Go get properly fitted to avoid massive disappointment. And just before I get any negatives, I am an avid Rick supporter, Pete and James too!
Nice ranking review! You said you'd do more so that's ace. Be good to see James in there for the accuracy 😉
Im guessing I'm classed as a mid to high handicap (shoot around 90 each round)
I got myself a set of taylormade p7mc earlier this year and it's helped my game big time
I recently got fitted into i530's, can't wait until they show!
Rick, I have a question for you. I'm expecting to buy a complete set of golf equipment next year, - I've had to take a long break due to illness but should hopefully be back and ready to play again soon. I wondered if you knew where there is a really large variety of clubs from different manufacturers under one roof that I can then test on their range to see what works for me before I then get custom fit. I could go to a fitting centre with one manufacturer but I'd like to have more choice. Thanks for all your hard work, it's most appreciated.
Fun review - that was a good watch!
Love it! Great review. Happy to be Ping-ing 😜
Glad i got the ping i530s
Love it as always
Only Titleist in my bag 🤷
I'm not one to ever usually criticise Rick but how on Earth can you score clubs using the same criteria on distance only when the lofts are significantly different? Granted the looks category is subjective but I'd give Rick a pass on that but there's no way you can score a club low on distance when it's basically up against a club at least 1 club stronger in loft 🤣
As I say though, Rick is still by far the best RUclipsr to go to when I'm looking at changing anything, obviously I get fitted etc but I like to see what his thoughts are.
FWIW My greatest ever golf purchase to date is my TaylorMade p790's where, ironically I got fitted for at Rick's old stomping ground, Trafford Golf Centre, outstanding iron's 👍
I own Kirkland's and Apeks CF16s, Kirkland's would now be the better iron set, for feel, distance and accuracy. Very happy with them.
I expected the 115gram shaft to be away too heavy but no, fine, I went reg flex too, and see no issue opting for a soft feel and a higher launch, I would almost compress my shots too much.
Critics would be the shafts are 1/2 too short, so had to buy extensions just make standard length. But wear is excellent 30 full rounds and look like brand new. ( Apeks marked up after 3 rounds!)
Wish you had added the Takomo’s into this ranking given their boom in popularity and your review touting how good they were. Would loved to have seen how they stacked up.
Dispersion would be a better criteria than accuracy; given potential differences in weighing of clubhead and shaft or offset differences.... But all in all, much appreciated since this is my market as a firmly mid golfer.
Looks have always been a weird one for me as a reason to buy a specific club.
Older, more experienced golfers love the thin, bladed look because that’s what they grew up with associating with great players.
I’d be really interested to see what a new or younger player thinks of the looks of a comparative set like this. Someone without that bias. I have a feeling it would be very different.
Considering getting takomos going from an older set of p790s so would have been good to see them stacked up against them
I know there are so many good clubs out there but i am a big fan of PXG Gen 7 P or XP most times you get what you pay for also Takomo 101T's should be in there before Kirkland any day of the week great video still cheers from Canada
I have the cobra’s love them…
I’m terrible and picked up a set of 770’s. They can be hit off the toe or center and they still go straight for me. Easier to hit for me than my old starter rocketbladez
this makes me happy to hear have a set on the way!
Left out the best selling iron two years running srixon zx5
The mizuno hm pro is really excellent and very easy to hit
Hay flash ah ha. I have the ping i530. Wanted a smaller head. BUT You can't beat the forgiveness feel and distance. YOU ARE CORRECT. excellent review. Where is Santa Sheils?
Loved this concept, would love to see this applied to othee clubs
I don't understand why you've never tested Srixon irons. They are insanely good. ZX5s should be top 3 on this list
Zx7 and zx4s awesome irons
@petekenny3774 yes 100% correct
For future reference, I think it would be helpful to score each category 1-5 or 1-10. That way, if two clubs look and feel just as good as the other, they would get the same points. Just seems to be a more rounded score.
not that it sways the results much but im curious if sets are sold differently across the world ... i got the ping I530s and got 4-PW where you said theyre sold 5-PW.
great to see the feedback and review of all the clubs and having played these ping I530s its a big confidence boost that they are talked about as good as they are!
I’ll just add if you’ve got the money the ping easily takes the win on all categories however, I’m a embarrassingly high handicap and for my budget, the Costco clubs would definitely come second they look amazing they feel amazing. They’re sound amazing and amazing price.
I got fitted for the ping i530's but hit all of these except the kirklands and my rankong was exactly the same. Also hit the srixons and they were last on my list
Lets go Gallaway.. awesome vid Rick..
Fair review
Would have loved to see Titleist in the mix
I brought the mizuno jpx pro steels and absolutely love them
Really enjoyed this video. How numbers based it was and the fact it was just a simple test and rating style. Plus my irons won🦾
Would have loved to see the Takomo 101T or even the 201s included.
I’d love to see you review the srixion mk II zx 5 or zx7.
Very under rated clubs.
Obviously you can't include an obnoxious amount of irons in the test but don't you think that Wilson DynaPwr deserved a shot? Looks, price, feel and performance would have been near or at the top of every category.
Takomo instead of Kirkland surely
100%
I would say the Ksigs fit this bunch better as the 101s have quite a lot of offset and the 101ts are more of a p770 alternative
@@Matt-xc4wd I would argue the 201s are more in the class of the p770s. The 101ts are basically p790 clones all the way down to the injected speed foam.
Why when the 201 are a cb not hollow body ? The Kirklands have been sued for being to similar to the p790. So even taylormade think they are in this category of iron .
@@Matt-xc4wd personally I think Takomo 101’s fit this category, just my opinion 🤷🏻 could quite easily bring in other brands too such as pxg, titlest etc I just think the Kirkland brand just isn’t appealing especially now there’s other companies producing quality affordable irons, I’ve yet to see anyone on a course playing Kirkland signature
I’m surprised the T200s aren’t in here.
What about Titleist T200 or T150? 🤔🧐
The Callaway image used for presentation isn’t the AI300 as it doesn’t have the print on the toe end and they have a wider hea
Would be good if you had a mid handicap golfer with a mid handicap swing to test these
I’m a mid handicap and wouldn’t hit all them irons as good as you do Ricky boy
No Srixon iron reviews ? The ZX5 is a phenomenal mid handicap iron. Combo set of the ZX7 and ZX5 is also a great option for handicaps from 0-15.
What about the Wilson CBs
I hear they are amazing! Apparently forged CB clubs MORE forgiving than game improvement clubs??? Crazy awesome if true!
Weird Mizuno pick, I expected the p790 equivalent, Mizuno pro 245
Need to take out the looks and price portions. I think the Mizuno look the best out of all of them but that doesn't change anything in the mechanics of the club. The price doesn't make a club better or worse. It's all personal preference with both. I appreciate you doing these videos though. Keep up the great work Rick.
Folks, these reviews are very informative however, IMO, you should simply go get fitted by an independent club fitter. The P790’s could be perfect for you, but it always comes down to other factors like shaft, shaft weight, etc.
I rock the i525 and theyre lights out. Prefer the look than the i530
Srixon, Titleist?
Maybe you should look at the Takomo 201's as well - in the same way the 301 for better players, these are pretty impressive
I understand you can’t review everything so I want to shout out srixon zx5. Don’t see much Srixon on here such an underrated club/brand. I love my zx5s they are so solid and forgiving. Turf interaction is elite in my opinion
Ive just ordered a combo set of zx7/zx5 after a fit. Can’t wait for them to arrive. Shame I’ve never seen Rick do anything on them
@@andrewhoment I have the combo ZX5-7 and they're awesome. You're gonna love them.
@ I cannot wait for them to arrive!
@@andrewhoment Pete did a review on his channel and rated them.
Big up!
Odd that there are no Takomos in this list. He said he loved them in his review. Speaking just for me, they are the best irons I have ever played. The price helps a lot too.
I think when buying irons you would want to know the distance dispersion as well as the accuracy left and right of target. I would want to know the percentage of shots that hit the same distance not an average distance. Forgiveness is important too so I would want to know how the club performs from slightly off-centre hits. Not many mid-handicap players strike their irons perfectly all the time.
what exactly do you consider the range for a handicap to be considered a mid handicap?
Question for everyone.
Im new to the handicap in golf. What range would be considered low, mid, and high? I have my handicap on an app from where i have played 50 rounds over 12 courses. Just curious to where i stand in all of that. Any insight is appreciated
Rick, cheers again for the reviews. Love the relaxed style of the videos.
I know you're trying to keep the testing fair but you're not doing a large enough sample size to account for your inconsistency. Preferably you'd need to use Robot swing testing for the relative performance part of the review. Otherwise you're giving mis-information concerning the performance of each club & that produces unneccessary turmoil in someone's purchase decisions.
Hausit Rick!! you get a chance try the Maltby ts3 irons
Where are the Titleist t200’s 😮😮😮😮
Would be nice to see the spin rate with the carry distance
Show dynamic loft with the static loft. Dynamic Loft is what matters. Thank you