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I Turned a Lidded Box!
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A lovely box Marc, and well turned. Thank you so much for the "shout out" I am honoured and very grateful.
Take care
Mike
Thanks very much Mike. Appreciate your content!
Watch you daily..
I lol'd out loud when you said "you're wrong." Great vid Marc!
Haha thanks brother!
Yea, me too. :D
You're *exactly* right about carbide tools, Marc. When I first started turning, all I used was carbide. I slowly started using my HSS tools as time went on, and today, I use both equally, depending on what I'm trying to do. Neither is "better" than the other, it all depends on what you're trying to do.
Marc -- It's nice to see you try a turned project. For those of us with limited time and space, turning can be the perfect way to enjoy woodworking as a hobby. In general, the projects take much less time and space to complete. As an experienced turner, I have no objections to using carbide tools. Sometimes they're a better option than traditional tools. I have both kinds of tools in my shop and use whichever gets the job done.
I have been searching for videos instructions how to turn a lidded box. Yours is the best. So glad I found this.
Great video! I had the experience you spoke of on your video a few months ago. I started turning pens so I bought a cheap HF lathe and some carbide tools. After turning over 30 pens I decided to turn a bowl. In the middle of the project I decided to join the local woodturning club. I was offered a "mentor" which I gladly accepted. I got the chief mentor who after inviting me to his place told me my lathe was "sh*t" and my tools were "worthless scrapers" and until I bought a "real lathe & real tools" there was nothing he could do for me. I finished my bowl on my own, then made rings, boxes, and for Mother's Day I turned my wife tulips and a vase. All with my worthless tools and RUclips video. I did upgrade my lathe because I wanted a bigger one. Needless to say I never attended another club meeting.
+Fierceflyer55 I'm a big fan of nice tools and learning traditional techniques, but I just can't relate to the mindset of that "mentor." I guess we should all start with the best and invest all of our spare time into practicing, otherwise we may as well just give up, lol.
"You're wrong..."
That's right!!! Listen to the Whisperer... He knows all!!!
That one cracked me up haha
Nice job. I like seeing your first attempts and how you came to the final design. Way to stick it to the haters and use the EZ Wood tools.
Great job Marc, you make everything look so graceful! Oh the powers of editing! Serious, great job.
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I have always admired people who know how to work wood to art! Thank you for sharing this and the way you technically make these beautiful creations! Grazie! Mirko
My wife got me a Qalo ring for Christmas because I never wear mine at work for safety reasons. They are great rings. Absolutely an awesome buy. Oh and your box and video turned out great too Marc.
Your videos are always so well done. Wish you could put out more free content.
Nice. At some point I'll get a lathe. Glad to know the EZ tools are there. Becoming a Turner is something I will try to avoid.
Haha! I was just thinking this morning "Does Marc do turning? I don't remember any turning videos from him..." Sweet! And I like how you keep it real and mentioned you had to give yourself a refresher since you don't do it that much. The end product was cool too!
Nice! I've not felt drawn to a lathe, but this project makes the idea less intimidating. Thanks, Marc!
Sweet project Marc. I'd like to eventually get a lathe and when that time comes, I'd likely go with the EZ tools. - Jim
love this video, I agree with the use of the carbide, they are great tools. also love the go pro idea mounted on the tools, haha wicked idea. thanks for sharing man . Happy Xmas
Thank you so much for such a comprehensive show, I made my first lidded box after this video 😊
nice job mark, i love turning fast things like this box.
Like your teaching techniques. I have been turning a bowl a day average for the last four years. I went to carbide early in the game and I love them. I also am very proficient with the HSS but carbide is the bomb. I have over 75 chisels in my tool collection. I use about thirty of them on a regular basis. What ever one is comfortable with. I have seen beginners spooked away from the hobby by HSS. I have a few good kicks from mine in the last few decades.
Great job, I have been turning for years and I use a variety of tools but I still use scrapers especially when I'm close to finishing a bowl and don't want to mess up. I don't use carbide tools but people who do swear by them, so I guess I should try them. Like they say nothing succeeds like success, the finished product speaks for itself. Thanks for sharing.
Finish,finish,finish...Mike is all about finish to...lol
Great video man, good to see you turning.
Mad several boxes from your video they really are fun and easy to make if the lid is a little lose a few coats of CA glue works great
I think a lot of wood turners, at least the old school ones, look at those carbide tip lathe chisels the same way some woodworkers look at cnc, or that new..."semi-automatic" router. I could count my self as one of those.
I was taught how to properly use the skew chisel, and it is really one of the best to use for lathe work, for the best finish. It did take a lot of practice though, and then there is the sharpening, which is an artwork all on its own.
That being said, I can certainly understand the appeal and attraction to the carbide tipped tools, as you said they're great for beginners to get started. eventually someone may get tired of the sanding to get rid of any lines that may be left and learn to use traditional lathe tools.
I guess what it really comes down to is, whatever works and gets the job done. :)
Love this straight design! Sometimes simplicity makes stuff much more fancy :)
another winner! I have multiple RUclips subscriptions, but your channel is always my favorite! great work!
+nyla bone Thanks so much Nyla!
still very valid after this long. I just started in this hobby and after study I ordered my carbide tools. Thanks
Love when people say "I am not good at this".. And create something that awesome. Great build!
+havenisse2009 lol I like to set expectations very low. :)
Today made my first lid box in class. Lid little loose, but o am happy. Next day..wok on shaping sides. I will be more aware of each step, when teacher explains them.
Update: still working on it!
I completely agree about the carbide v steel tools. I turned a mug last fall, and that was my first experience on a lathe.My shop teacher didn't have us properly sharpen the tools, or show us the best way to use them. After Christmas I got my own lathe, and went with carbide considering I have a small shop, and no way to sharpen tools well. The carbides work great and are super easy to use!
You can also get a super fine finish off carbide. Just crank that speed up, get the height of the toolrest just right and you will be sanding from 240/300 grit easily. Not so great on punky salted wood in my experience though... but that's probably just me 👍
I agree! I usually have my lathe at 2800-3900RPM when turning small pieces.
+Jake Hanson I'll have to try cranking up the speed a bit.
+The Wood Whisperer I have it at a high speed for pens or anything I feel will stay on the lathe indefinitely. I also would say knocking the corners off before going to a high speed
Very nice turning
Thanks for sharing Marc. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂
I love my carbide tools. And it IS real woodturning. The wood is spinning on a lathe and you´re working the tools and shaping everything by hand.
Very well explained. Nice project!
I work with metal but you’re a cool dude so I watched anyway and learned some stuff I can apply to my metalwork.
I really appreciate the slow step by step and easy to follow walk-through. My first lathe should arrive this week, I'm really looking forward to getting started.
If you read this, any recommendation for starter carbide tools? I don't want to spend a fortune, but I don't want cheap junk either.
my wife got me my Qalo ring about 7 months ago....love it.
Great vid. Just want to add that carbide scrapers sometimes work even better than traditional tools in some applications. Like turning epoxy
Thanks Marc, I agree with you and keep making vids for the average wood worker.
How nice these little boxes are!
Great video as always, Marc.
yay, another WW video. Well done, nicely shot
I use a mix of carbide and traditional tools whatever works for you.
Nice project. How about making the top profile be the negative of the bottom so that you can stack them if you make several?
Nice box, man. Thanks for the video.
thank yo Mark. if i may a suggestion for you please there used to be a tool called a strap wrench that would suite that need quite well for you on stuck items . it did not mar the finishes .i used it in machine shops .
That round nose carbide is really nice for that end grain hollowing you're doing with it too. And it's easy to get deep in a piece without a catch. I'd say if a tool does a job well then it is a tool worth using. That's not to say a scraper doesn't have something to add here, though.
My OCD would not allow me to have the lid fit on the base without the grain of the wood lining up perfectly, so i would have to put some sort of keyway in it. HAHA Nice project Mark!
I'm looking to get a lathe soon, thanks for the inspiration!
Get the best you can so you can be called a turner sooner. That means you will need to spend over a Grand for your first lathe
Nice ring box, in future videos you should Hammer the spur drive into the work pice. Hammering it into the headstock could damage the bearings. We want to make sure new turners learn good habits.
Wait a minute..........I think I remember that lathe from earlier videos. I thought it was just collecting dust now? Lol. Nice job Marc.
I like using the scrapers for many tasks, but I have had some breakage when I tried using them for rounding a square block. The carbide edge takes a beating on the wood corners. It works much better for me after the wood is round-ish. YMMV. Regardless - You got nice results. Thanks for the video.
No need to feel sorry for the Easy Wood tools. I use them now exclusively vs. my "traditional" lathe tools. Soo much easier to use, and sanding on the lathe is an easy task. Just like everything else, there is too much romanticizing over every traditional tool in the shop. Just use what gets the job done and gets the desired results!
totally agree. My response to tool-Nazis is "so.... you use a pole lathe and iron hook tools then?" I love my carbide tools... really speed up the boring parts of the job. Also... having used them in teaching, they're far safer and much more rewarding for the newbie; just as Marc said.
Coming from a dude who started turning well before these tools existed, I can say that for most every task, I prefer a gouge or skew (though in my estimation, if you are using a scraper in lieu of a skew, you are really not doing yourself any favors. The skew is something that you just gotta learn if you are doing any spindle work, it does things that you just can't do with any of the carbides).
The real problem here, is that the answer probably lies in the middle somewhere. There is an upper limit to the complexity of the spindle work you can do with these scrapers. And even if you can replicate some of the basic forms, you can't sand between deep tight beadwork without messing up the beads, so you need something that achieves a fine surface finish from the tool. A properly sharpened skew can give you a mirror finish with a light cut.
On the other hand, there is a bunch of technique to working end grain with traditional chisels. And there are still some operations that are inherently risky, even with the right technique. These scrapers make short, low risk work of end grain, and as such are great for beginners and advanced turners alike.
I just wish that we didn't pile on with all the BS, it doesn't have to be one or the other. Every turner should have basic chisels, as a decent set (read as Benjamin's Best or similar) will cost them the price of a single carbide tool. Get carbide as well if you like, use it for the trickier hollowing or cross grain operations, but the more traditional lathe chisels aren't obsolete, they are complimented by the newer carbides.
If your lathe has the power to run carbide there's nothing wrong with it for hogging off material. My lathe is a treadle powered machine so I really appreciate how keen a well sharpened hss tool can be.
simple, useful, creativity.. excellent.
Great video mark as always.
Thanks for the video. Great video as always Marc.
Good video. Enjoyed it, as usual.
Nice box marc!
cool little box. i love the ring.i def. have to check the site out. and i agree i bought a whole set of sorbys and after ruining all 5 on the grinder, I decided to buy the 3-piece rocker set and I have to say i love the idea of no sharpening and still getting good results. once my confidence is back up there one of these days I'll approach the grinder with the traditional tools..and maybe ill actually sharpen them..haha....one of these days..;)
Forgot to say, beautiful box!
Wow very nice
Nice tutorial Marc, thanks.
Just started wood turning - watching so so many videos - this is one of the best ones yet. Great job!
Well said about the scrapers.
Very nice project. The moment I saw the box I immediately though of a plastic container my mother uses as a hand cream container. Would this work for that purpose? And if yes, should there be a different approach for the finish of the inside of the box?
Great video as always Marc!
Great job,nice box 😊
Beautiful work. I wish I could borrow all those fancy tools. :-)
I LOVE your complicated depth gauge! Good stuff Mark! It probably won't effect your Powermatic, but most lathes, it's best to hammer the head spur on before mounting so you aren't hammering on your bearings. I could be wrong in your case, but my lathe specifies NOT to do that or you can damage the bearings.
Long time fan! (Pre Guild days)
Thanks for the tip!
+The Wood Whisperer I think I peed myself a bit... I'm happy to have given you a tip haha, didn't think I'd see the day!!! Lots of love!
+McGinn's WoodShop oh I have plenty to learn my friend!
Half the fun ;)
Great box. My wife and I are very experience woodturners. We use carbide quite a bit and it is for all stages of turners. Sometimes it is just easier.
BTW - if you want to sell one of your failed boxes, let me know.
also I've always wondered if I could turn a box like that or a bowl with the round headed tool. thanks for the insight
I didn't really trust the paper towel method by itself with my lid being a little loose. Painters tape made it feel alot safer.
Thanks great video
awesome art with turning wood,
Elaborate depth gauge, aka a pencil! Great!
Great product placement!!
Thanks!
great step by step instruction thank you!
nice job. I think you should do more turning.
Nice job. I like seeing your other attempts that you have done, it shows me how things fall in place, AND if I should ever screw up while turning then so what. Not that that would ever happen. Do you use the one third method ? meaning the lid is one third long as the base of the box. Thanks again.
Very cool and a great idea
É um ótimo trabalho. Seu torno ajuda porque você tem um Chuck jaws para realizar um trabalho perfeito. Valeu.
Excellent video. I also use Easy Wood tools.
"You're wrong".....ha!!!! Thanks for the laugh!
An old fella once told me there is no Wright or wrong way to turn it’s how comfortable u feel in what u r doing
Do you know if Rockler sells those elaborate depth gauges???
Loved the video!
Ficaram maravilhosas, parabéns.
cool video good information would love to see more videos of yours
great vid!
its sad that a true professional has to put out a disclaimer to preempt the inevitable know it all haters out there. ive never used carbide tips even i'm new to turning (1 year), mainly because of the stigma you cited. you made a great case for their niche. at this point i do like the conventional tools.
good solid video out of your comfort zone!
Great beginner (such as myself) video, Marc! Do you remember what kind of wood that was?
nice job!
WOW!! this is really cool
Marc, I see you put the tenon between the box and the lid, on the box rather than the lid. Is there a reason for that or could the tenon be on the lid?
Great video, Marc! Which abrasive pads are you using? I've had bad luck with what I used locally.
Festool Platin.
4:45 That piece of paper looks like light is coming from inside the box :)
So Marc, I have never turned on a lathe before. Could i really start with just those two tools (square and round), would they do the job? Obviously a lathe, and a parting tool. You made that look easy, i want to try this out!
Yup, that's all you need to get started. Obviously you won't be able to make every type of turning out there but you'll be able to do a lot!
Thanks for your time! Well i am going to get a lathe and and a few tools and give it a go! Subscribe to my channel as i will post a video of my first attempt there... It should be comical !;)
+The Wood Whisperer Might need a parting tool as well for this kind of product. I see EasyWood now makes a carbide parting tool. I really recommend their products as well for the casual/beginning turner. I took a weeklong turning class and brought my carbide tools along - and boy did I get crap for wanting to use "scrapers"! So, I learned some additional turning skills on conventional tools - and when I got home, I was also much better with the carbide tools. Thanks for the inspiration, WW!
+Lawrence Becker thank you! And yeah, definitely need that parting tool. I have my eye on the EWT version but haven't pulled the trigger yet.
+The Wood Whisperer Get it! Just picked one up and it cuts like butta!
I am brand new to woodturning but does anyone know why he didn't try and saw off some of the extra material on the blank before then going to the roughing gouge?
Great Video! What type of wood and also what type of satin finish did you use?
Awesome job Marc. Is the reason for using the 500 grit pad to apply the poly finish to get more of a matte finish? I need to finish some shelves in a matte finish at the moment and that looks like a good solution to get the matte finish i'm after.
It might help in that regard if you build enough of a film. I'm using it in hopes of creating a little dust/finish slurry that fills the grain a bit. Probably doesn't make a huge difference but I still like to do it.
Can you show how to put a resin art into lid